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Speaker 1: Callarogas shock media. David Letterman is on Colbert Tonight. I

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In a bit uh from Variety, Jeff Ross talked about

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the real tension behind the roast of Kevin Hart. The

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rose continues to be the big topic and that'll get

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us through this week and the next week is Colbert Week.

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Lot going on in comedy. Jeff Ross was asked if

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anything hurts his feelings, like when somebody says you look

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like the inside of a clam. The Roastmaster General said,

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if the joke is funny and well crafted, it doesn't

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hurt my feelings. It makes me proud. If the joke flops,

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then I'm insulted. Like write a better joke for me.

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I'm the roast master. If you watch the entire roast.

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At one point, Kevin was making fun of Jeff, but

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Jeff was in the bathroom. Jeff said, I was panicking

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because the bathroom next to my dressing room was locked.

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I thought I had a time where I could make

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it back for that part of his speech. Imagine literally

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peeing while I'm hearing the audience laughing jokes about me.

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It was one of the most surreal roast moments of

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my career. I really did him dirty, and I did

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apologize after the party. I should have been in my seat,

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But by the time he and the rock plug the

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tequila brands for the second time, I whispered to Pete

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Davidson and said, all right, I gotta go pee. Ross

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talked about the after party. I think everybody was there.

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The vibe was over the moon. Kevin seemed like he

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was on cloud nine. Was there any real tension behind

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the roast? That's the million dollar question, Jeff said. The

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only real tension I felt was when Cat Williams appeared

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out of nowhere and started going in on Kevin. Kevin

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definitely looked a little tense, like these guys may not

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have seen each other for a long time. But Kevin

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asked for the hatchet to be buried, and immediately the

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tension turned into celebration. Whose idea was it to bring Cat?

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Jeff Ross says, Kevin's a great comic, but he's also

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a really smart producer. He loves to follow the discomfort.

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If something's making him uncomfortable, it's going to be great TV.

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I would say it was a group brainstorm of who

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would be a funny person to bring into this thing,

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and Kat Williams was game. He came out with a

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cape like a villain, and he left like a friend.

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I don't believe they actually talked until he came out

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on TV. Jeff shared a joke of his that did

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make it into the roast. He would have told it better,

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but it goes like this, Kevin, your dad sold crack,

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and you literally sell everything except crack. From his comedy

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to s tequila to his chain of vegan fast food restaurants,

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Kevin is always looking for new ways to make people

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throw up. Ha ha. Friddy says, at least inside the room,

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Cheryl Underwood crushed. Jeff said, I remember at some point

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flopping on the floor when she was on. That's how

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hard I was, falling out of my chair. She had

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one of the best sets of the night. She's a pro.

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She used to walk on stage with her person in

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her hand. We worked such dumps together. She didn't trust

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the staff or the other comics with her purse in

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the back, She's the real deal. Good question here by variety.

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Where is this roast rank in terms of crossing the line?

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Jeff Ross said there were definitely some lines crossed. The

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jokes were super edgy. When Tom Brady came out and

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started talking about Kevin's personal life, right out of the gate,

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I thought, this truly is a revenge roast. That's how

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I actually approached Tom about it. We were at a

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party in Las Vegas and I said, Tom, I got

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another one percolating. He said, I'm never coming back. Why

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would I come? And I said revenge? He goes? Who

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you got? I whispered Kevin Hart and his next question

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was when he needed a reason to come back. Those

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jokes were super reggie, and I could feel the tension

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in the room. Even though it was funny, there was

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a realness to it. I will weigh in here. I

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a mistake. I wrote about this on my substack, and

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think the move might have been open. With the shaker

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of Kat Williams and having confidence in Cat to be funny.

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I think that would have prepped the room a little bit.

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Tom just not being a comedian, I don't think warmed

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up the room well enough, which affected a lot of

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the first half of the show. When I finally watched

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the whole thing, I think the second half was a

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little stronger, mainly because of Tony Hingecliff and Kat Williams.

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So I'm not sure they sequenced this thing right. Roddy

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was curious what was actually off limits. Jeff Ross said,

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people always asked that. Kevin never once said to me,

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please don't do this, Please don't do that for me.

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There's a sportsmanship to it. I want to scratch the skin,

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but I don't want to break it. Nothing was off limits.

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I don't think there was a single topic from Kevin's

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life that didn't get brought up. It's really just a

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question of how avert you want to be. Do you

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want to be subtle or do you want to smash

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them over the head with a dollhouse. I don't know

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anybody could look at the roast and call it water down.

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Roddy did a good job with this. They asked, you know,

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How do you balance that with the element of surprise.

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Jeff said, I gave a lot of the credits to

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my partner, Casey Patterson. Joe put fake names on dressing

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room signs. The scripts don't circulate to the entire staff.

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The crew doesn't read the comics material. I don't know

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what Chelsea's speech is going to be. She doesn't know mine.

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Kevin doesn't know what's coming from anybody that keeps it real,

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you are genuinely messing with somebody live on television. There's

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a lot that goes into that side of it, and

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I'm only surprised. Another good follow up, There were a

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lot of times when people would skip a joke they

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had on the teleprompter. What goes into the decision to

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edit yourself in real time? Jeff Ross said, I'm careful

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not to let that happen because I hate going skip it.

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It looks so written. But sometimes in a live show,

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it's inevitable that people want improvise, or maybe the joke

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was too similar to the joke that was made earlier

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in the night and doesn't seem funny anymore. Is sometimes

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the non comics get cold feet on a certain joke. Honestly,

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the most important job in that entire show is probably

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the teleprompter operators. That's a high wire act. You get

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all sorts of deliveries. Some people are mumbling somemmer rushing,

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and those operators stay right with us the whole time.

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It's remarkable. Two more. Will you be able to get

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another goat in a couple of years, Jeff said, I

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think so, Kevin do. It opens it up to almost

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anybody whos at the top of their game wants to

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show the world they're a good sport. All right, Who

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do you want to roast next? Jeff's aid a pop

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star or a rock star would be great. A rapper

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would be great. I could see Drake getting roasted in

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being a great one. One of my all time favorite

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ideas is Stevie Wonder. I always say the roast of

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Stevie Wonder. You got to hear it to believe it.

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Vulture had the headline how Cheryl Underwood won the roast

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of Kevin Hart. Despite being one of the least recognizable

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faces on a dais that included celebrities like Chelsea Hanler

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and Pete Davidson, Underwood had consistently been the target of

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some of the Knight's sharpest barbes, adding to the weight

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of the moment. Underwood followed Tony Hinchcliff, but when Underwood

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got on the podium, the room's atmosphere reset. Her set

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was a triumph, in part because her energetic delivery injected

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life in the proceedings after the show had slipped into

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a monotonous rhythm halfway through its bloated, nearly three hour runtime.

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There were only so many times one could see Handler

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called a horror or heart marked for his height before

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it grows tedious. And an event that featured surprise appearances

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from Venus and Serena Williams, Heart Enemy Cat Williams and

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The Rock, no one got ovation like Underwood following her set. Boy,

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I just looked at the we are going to be

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long again. I got like seven stories of been kicking

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since Monday. Remind me I said that when it's July

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fourth week and I'm googling George Lopez Tacos to fill

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some space all right. Radar Online is a gossip website.

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Their headline Jimmy Kimmel pushing himself out the door at ABC.

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How cost A Comics shot himself at the foot with

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dead Trump gags. I don't believe the story at all,

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no offense. Radar Online. One of the reasons I say

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that is because ABC had Jimmy Kimmel host the Upfronts.

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But anyway, Radar Online says ABC executives are allegedly reconsidering

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Jimmy Kimmel's future after backlash over his Millennia Trump joke.

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They remind us the Kimmel repeated the joke on a

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show and said critics overreacted, and network insider said the

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original joke was already viewed internally as reckless, doubling down

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turned it into something potentially costly to the network. They

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can't be too concerned because they had Jimmy host the Upfronts.

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Jimmy Kimmel's all the Upfronts audience. I didn't think i'd

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see you guys again either. Yeah, the bad boy of

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Data and Measurement Solutions is back. I've been through so

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much BS this year it actually made me appreciate this BS.

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You know, usually in order for ABC to pull you

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off the air, you have to throw a cher at

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your Mormon boyfriend. Yes, the President tried to get me

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canceled over the last six months. That's one way to

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look at it. Another way is you could say I've

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generated unparalleled engagement across a variety of platforms. Luckily, thanks

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to our partners in Washington, we're up twenty five percent

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among viewers. It's a big deal to have your numbers

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go up nowadays. But that said, if Johnny Carson woke

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up one day with my ratings, he'd have gone straight

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under the sink and chugged all the DRAINO Oh, Kimmel

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had more. He said, I cost our company a lot

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of money this year, billions. It's very possible that no

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employee in the history of any company has caused their

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employee more than hiring me twenty four years ago. Just

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from a purely mathematical standpoint, it was the worst personnel

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decision that Disney Corporation has ever made. Not even the

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captain of the Exxon Valdiz did more damage. Jimmy said,

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this will be the first Super Bowl on ABC in

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twenty years, and we're gonna milk the but Jesus out

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of it. We're gonna spend the whole year promoting what's

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already the most popular thing on earth. And as if

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the country isn't divided enough, we put the game on

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Valentine's Day just to be dicks. Let me tell you

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what the Havetime Show was going to be this year.

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The whitest stuff you've ever seen. Goodbye, bad Buddy, Welcome back,

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Oh Town. Jimmy talked about his appearance on Colbert the

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other night. As you know, CBS is turning eleven thirty

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five PM into the least time slot, least likely to

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fend the president, with a rerun of Byron Allen's comics

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on Leash from two thousand and seven, featuring Paula Poundstone

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and Andy Dick. Poor Steven. It's bad enough to lose

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your job, imagine getting replaced by the owner of the

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Weather Channel. So I look. Jimmy was on fire. He said,

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you know, in the past, I've come here to mock

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the other network shows. Was all very competitive, but now

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we're like a bunch of dirty, starving little chihuahuas under

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the table waiting for a chicken leg to drop. For

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the first time of think ever, I'm rooting for CBS.

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They've got a lot of great returning shows, and they've

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got some great news shows. Ncis New York answers the

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question what if LLL coolj partnered up with another white

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guy in a different city. They're also doing the Prices

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Right at Night now. Oh we tagged this with a

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dirty pun. The price is right at Night on the

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nighttime version instead of a flat screen TV, the winner

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gets something men like in an alley behind the studio,

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Naughty Jimmy. For the first time in eighteen year, CBS

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was not number one in total viewers. NBC is number one,

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and they're saying they're number one. Are you allowed to

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brag about being number one when you had the Olympics

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in the Super Bowl? Only if you have them again

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next year and you don't. Meanwhile, poor Fox was in

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last place again and their big plan to turn that

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around as a revival of Baywatch. This is a reboot

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for those who watched the first eleven seasons of Baywatch

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and thought, but that can't be the whole story. As

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for us at ABC, except for all the domestic violence,

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we're really doing great. Dancing with the Stars is hotter

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than your grandma's underpants at a Michael Boublaz show. The

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Rookie was among the most streams shows among viewers under eighteen.

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Young people love The Rookie and do you know why

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I'm actually asking? Does anyone know why this is happening? Meanwhile,

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over at NBC, Seth Meyers hosted their upfronts. Seth Meyers said,

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we have taken down CBS, referring to for the first

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time in two decades, NBC will take the broadcast crown

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Seth Again, CBS didn't not holding upfront presentation this year

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approaching seven feet tall. But it's an exciting time for Peacocks.

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dad asking what channel's NBC on. NBC has the Emmys

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that's actually going to have them. Some more random jokes,

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I'm seth Myers, or as the FCC calls me. Next.

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Netflix is hosting It's Upfront on a pier on the

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They announced FIFA World Cup twenty twenty six after Hours

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on Fox with James Cordon, whereas we're going to refer

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to it Cordon. James Cordon, the host of FIFA World

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Cup twenty twenty six After Hours on Fox with James Cordon,

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said it's gonna be me former England soccer captain Rio

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talking about the games, talking about anything that may have

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happened that day. The World Cup takes place at June

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eleventh two July nineteenth in the United States of America,

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Canada and Mexico. If you live in New Jersey and

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you want to take the train to the game, because

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thing in New Jersey. So you can't park at the stadium, Okay,

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you can't take a ride share to the stadium. There's

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a train. For a while that they were charging one

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hundred and fifty dollars for the train. Yeah, and now

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and ten dollars a summer. It's still over one hundred

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dollars to go basically a mile and a half, but

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there's no other way to get to the stadium. I'm

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so annoyed the World Cup finally comes to basically in

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my backyard and there's no way to get there. I

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might get down a Philadelphia for a game. I digress.

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James Cordon, the host of FIFA World Cup twenty twenty six.

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After Hours on Fox with James Corden, said soccer is

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now is an incredible time for North America to be

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hosting this tournament, and we're really going to try and

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have some fun. Michael Strahan asked Cordon why he wanted

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to work for Fox. Cordon said, because they got the

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rights of the games. I can't stress this enough. If

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they didn't have the rights of the games, I'd do

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the show on the network that did. Boy, the amount

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of stuff I'm bumping from this program lately. Let's check

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in with a friend of the show, Jason Zinneman. He

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writes for The New York Times. He was out in

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la and caught John mulaney and wrote John Mulaney's New

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Hour range from kids' birthday parties to sweeping takes on

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our political mood. I played do that RFK impression the

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other day. Zinniman rights, there's a sarcastic register in John

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Mulaney's toolkit that is deepened with age. In his New Hour,

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he's often lingered in this rye voice, building arguments with it,

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adding absurdity upon absurdity, and so the ironic distance seems

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and righteous. It's one of the many small miracles of

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form that explain why John mulaney is setting the pace

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and stand up right now. As a precocious performer, he

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could seem older than he was getting laughs of that incongruity.

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Now he is a distinctive age appropriate voice as a persicone,

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cranky and aloof Dad. Milani is in a topical of

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personal comic, but he dabbles in both getting laughs out

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of hot takee premises like why old people shouldn't vote,

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quoting m'lini, why would you order for the table if

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you were about to leave the restaurant? But his greatest

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strength here is as a sharp, hilarious cultural critic. Zinneman

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also wrote about rising stars at the festival, pointing out

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they tend to be hungrier, harder working, and funnier. Friend

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of the show Jason Zinneman was impressed by Megan Gailly,

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who opened for Anthony Jesslinik. Gailly made a case for

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Charles Barkley as the Democrat's best hope for president, and

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had a funny joke about men who won't shut up

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about their colonoscopies, which makes me laugh because I, uh,

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earlier today was atty whatever the colon oskwey doctor is called,

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and my friend called and I texted her back and

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I'm like, can't talk. And then on the way home

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we were talking colonoscopies, So yeah, I feel you. Megan

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Zenneman also liked Sophie Buttle at the Hollywood Improv. Jason

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then pause to wonder if it would be amusing if

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she became as obsessed with the subject as Chappelle is

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her quote, I'm not famous enough to have opinions that crazy,

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but if I get famous, I'm gonna start an even

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bigger fight with an even smaller group of people. Oh

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and we are getting so long today, let's wrap this up, John, Okay.

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Heather Shaw has announced her debut special, all Right Sea,

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We'll come out on YouTube today. In all Right Sea,

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Heather Shaw tackles everything from gay bars and Caitlyn Jenner

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to pop culture and more. That's Heather Shaw's all Right

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Sea Out Today on YouTube. Friend of the show, Dylan

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