1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,799 Speaker 1: Every table has rules, but the best stories usually begin 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,039 when someone ignores them. A risky move, a broken alliance, 3 00:00:08,359 --> 00:00:11,800 a perfect role at the worst possible moment, and suddenly 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,720 it's not just a game anymore. It's the victory nobody expected, 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,559 the argument everyone remembers, and the story your friends will 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,000 still be telling years from now. I'm Scott Ralph and 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,640 this is table tales, where board games, card games, and 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,760 role playing adventures become stories worth retelling. So pull up 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,359 a chair. The next tale is already on the table. 10 00:00:42,119 --> 00:00:46,119 Speaker 2: So hopefully when we reopen or even before, we'll have 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,920 the shelf stocked with neilize a new games. 12 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: Sounds good, and you've got a few available to borrow, 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:52,640 I believe. 14 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:55,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've got games here. Like we haven't quite 15 00:00:55,079 --> 00:00:57,600 got the collection that we would like, but yeah, we're 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,479 always on the hunt for stuff. 17 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:02,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. So again, for anyone that's maybe looking to give 18 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:04,920 it a go, anyone that's not particularly familiar with modern 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,040 board gaming, you know, beyond your scrabble and snakes and 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,000 ladders and Monopoly. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,719 Speaker 4: Every time someone buys or plays a copy of Monopoly, 22 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:13,959 a part of my soul just buyes. 23 00:01:14,359 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: I just I have to bring up Monopoly when we 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,200 talk about it, because I like seeing Wayne's reaction. 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: It's there's only so much you can There's only so 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,640 much you can do, isn't it. You know what's going 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,920 to happen. I mean, probably the most fun I had 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,439 with Monopoly the last time I played it was with 29 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:29,519 my little brother and we played the Lord of the 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Rings one and the most fun we had was changing 31 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:36,040 the names so when we landed on certain minds, it'd 32 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:37,760 be like, instead of back end, we were just king. 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,120 I've landed on ball back end of course and be done. Yeah. Absolutely, 34 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:43,439 And it speaks to. 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: How fun Monopoly is where that's the most one you have. 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fair enough. 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: It's the bane of no no. But I'm going to 38 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:54,920 stop now before I talk for twenty five minutes on 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,959 the bane that I have for Monopoly. Game design has 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,319 moved on in the last four years. 41 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: People, let's be over it. 42 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: But I think I think that's actually that's a great point. 43 00:02:04,439 --> 00:02:08,840 I think everyone's go to is Monopoly because initially it 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,080 was probably such a great game too in the beginning, 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,840 because it's like, well, I'm sure the first light car 46 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:18,840 looked amazing, but if you look back now, it probably 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,919 looked like a heap of ship. Yeah, so it evolves, 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,319 doesn't it. So I think gaming has evolved and it's 49 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:27,520 left it in its wake. But I think people are 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,520 probably like, and this is great to start with, a 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,840 little bit scared to put it to go and try 52 00:02:33,879 --> 00:02:37,120 something new. And that's what is great about us and 53 00:02:37,159 --> 00:02:38,879 a great great about talking to you guys and your 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,400 show is because you're helping people go, Actually, you know what, 55 00:02:41,479 --> 00:02:43,319 that sounds really cool. I'm going to give that a go. 56 00:02:43,439 --> 00:02:45,719 They gives you the confidence to go. You've kind of 57 00:02:45,719 --> 00:02:48,159 got a little bit of a prelude to what you're 58 00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:51,400 going to be getting yourself into rather than going, I'm 59 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,879 going to go and pay money for that game, and 60 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,599 I'm I really going to like it, because I mean 61 00:02:54,719 --> 00:02:57,919 some of the games can be quite expensive, but once 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 you've played them, you could go, I'm going to play 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,159 that forever. That isn't bargain. Yeah, absolutely, it's that sort 64 00:03:03,159 --> 00:03:04,520 of jump forward from that. 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you might pay well, probably Monopoly retails about twenty 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,719 twenty five pounds and you'll play every Christmas. I suppose 67 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:17,960 that's the common notion of it, isn't it. But something 68 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,120 like scythe or anything else that we've talked about already 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,639 on the podcast, or we'll be looking for maybe cost 70 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:27,280 you twice that amount, but the level of detail and 71 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,840 involvement and the enjoyment you'll get from it will last 72 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:30,879 for a lot longer. 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure that's what happens. Everyone 74 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,919 plays Monopoly at Christmas, hate each other. 75 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: It's trash. 76 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: Someone picks the board up, sprows it at the wall. Yeah, 77 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,919 demon gets pissed off, hates each other. We're going to 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:40,840 eat some more food. 79 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: And then, Yeah, I don't personally have those memories of Monopoly. 80 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,639 I remember my brother always buying Mayfair, but beyond that, 81 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:48,120 I always seem to remember enjoying it. But maybe I 82 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:50,240 just haven't played it recently enough. Maybe. 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: But also I think, while we're on the subject, instead 84 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,639 of Monopoly, folks, maybe pick up ticket to ride or 85 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,039 as we're in this environment at the moment, Pandemic a 86 00:03:59,039 --> 00:03:59,879 great family. 87 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: Game played that before that is that that actually was 88 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,120 a really good game. It was quite It was quite 89 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:05,759 tongue in chake because we played it just as all 90 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,439 this kicked off and everyone was sort of like, is 91 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:09,680 this serious? Is this not serious? Should we really be 92 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:11,639 worried that we were still open at the time, and 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,039 most people were like, it was just a few people 94 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:14,560 had called it. 95 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of the last games I think we 96 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,000 played here before. 97 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:26,199 Speaker 4: Also, you played Dead of Winter with us again, another 98 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:28,839 great I wouldn't have known it was out there. 99 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: Again, You've got to think about what people are doing, 100 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,040 and they're going into Google going I really want a 101 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,959 game that's got zombies and winter and it's got this 102 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,879 and this and this, Because people aren't looking for that game, 103 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,079 they will find something in. 104 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: Or whatever. 105 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: When you're in the shops. Hung Yeah, actually is a 106 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,639 really good game. 107 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: Obviously the shop is called the Comic Shop, and let's 108 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,240 talk a little bit about the comics that you have 109 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,519 here and how that works. 110 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. We started off with a small amount. 111 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,600 I mean there's only we do get people still coming 112 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,079 here that initially came when we opened, but everyone sort 113 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:08,759 of either didn't see it or forgets that. When you opened, 114 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,959 we were literally just this enormous, humongous shop with a 115 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,079 couple of tables and a few comics, like literally a 116 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:19,040 few comics, And since then it's sort of just been 117 00:05:19,639 --> 00:05:23,480 another table, another shelf, another set of comics, another box 118 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:27,079 of comics. So we've grown massively since we started. However, 119 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:30,759 we've also got some great additions like the Magic Gang. 120 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:33,720 We get people playing Yu gi Oh, small groups of 121 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,360 Yu gi Oh, all sorts of Vanguard. There's a couple 122 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,120 of Final Fantasy trading card game ones that came in 123 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:41,480 as well. 124 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,079 Speaker 3: There's a lot of don't getting started on Final Fantasy. 125 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,399 Speaker 2: Actually, I promise myself we won't talk about it. 126 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: That's a whole other podcast. 127 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 128 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, the range of comics is always fresh, 129 00:05:54,959 --> 00:05:57,199 and I mean I don't know much about them, but 130 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,240 you've always got brand new releases. You've got the pool available. Yeah. 131 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: H pretty much deals with anything comic y and I 132 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:08,600 sort of just did my duty and send them his way. 133 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:11,279 But we've got we get the new comics in and 134 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:13,160 we get collections in as well. 135 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, a strong back cast log down towards the coffee 136 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:17,800 end of the shop. 137 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And then yeah, so if people want stuff, 138 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,759 we can order it in. If people are looking for stuff, 139 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,079 we'll always trying to help them. But we sort of 140 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,199 morphed into something that that really is so much more 141 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,279 than a comic shop. A geek can essentially so yeah, 142 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:36,920 it's it's pretty lovely to still have the comics in here. 143 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:38,560 But we are so much more than that. 144 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: We've got a whole backgrange of mango. You've got coffee 145 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:44,360 mugs and so on that you can. 146 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:46,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, we even sell our coffee. We genuinely thought that 147 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:49,079 people were blind smoke up our ass. We're like saying 148 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:50,759 we had lovely coffee. Were like, yeah, of course we have. 149 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:54,040 It's just coffee. And even me, like I'd never made 150 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,959 a cup of proper cup of coffee before, Like my 151 00:06:57,079 --> 00:06:59,920 coffee skills involved the granu was going in and the 152 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:00,800 that was it. 153 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: That'd be the limit of my ex exactly. 154 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: And now I'm such a coffee not I don't even 155 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,079 drink I'm not even allowed to drink coffee. But when 156 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:10,920 I make coffee at home, it's literally just I look 157 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,720 at the I look at the hot water going in 158 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:13,319 over the grains. 159 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,519 Speaker 4: I'm like, what is this? 160 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: This is just peasant, just peasant coffee. But like so 161 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:21,160 I had to learn. I mean that that again, I 162 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,720 mean if if people know me or people don't know, 163 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:25,839 that's that's something I was like, I'm never going to 164 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:28,079 be in my own shop making coffee There'll always be 165 00:07:28,759 --> 00:07:32,319 someone else doing that for me, and I was thinking, well, shit, 166 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,800 what is this. I've got to do it myself quick. 167 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:36,879 So I did have to learn quick. But everyone loved 168 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,600 our coffee and it's good. And then we realized we 169 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,240 realized everyone wasn't lying. It is good coffee, so people 170 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:45,120 actually buy it by the bag, which is phenomenal. 171 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,839 Speaker 4: So what was the initial driver for getting your own 172 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:51,800 branded coffee? Because you have your own brand coffee here, right. 173 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I looked local. We tried to keep everything local. 174 00:07:54,439 --> 00:07:58,480 I tried to source like the coffee from local, like 175 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,560 any buying any equipment off local, Like I said. We 176 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,600 even went to the British Heart Foundation to try, and 177 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,879 I think it wasn't even just a British Heart as 178 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:08,600 all the charities we went into to try and sort of, 179 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:10,360 if we're going to buy anything and give anyone money, 180 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,959 could we give it to the right places. So we did. 181 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,279 But the coffee place they the best machine we got 182 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:20,639 offered or could get. Because obviously we were still on 183 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:23,319 the budget. We had to be sensible and realistic. They 184 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:25,399 had a deal where they said, we can give you your 185 00:08:25,319 --> 00:08:27,879 own coffee and we can brand it up for free, 186 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,720 so our lovely mate Mario helped us do some artwork, 187 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,080 which was the geek fuel. So we designed our own 188 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,159 comic to go on stickers, which would then go on 189 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:42,399 the bags, and sadly like obviously we just use those 190 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:44,279 bags as anything and they get chucked away, but if 191 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,879 someone wants to buy the bag, they've got our own 192 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:47,399 designed artwork on the front. 193 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 4: We'll touch on what we haven't talked about already here, 194 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,679 which is one of the other big hobbies that you've 195 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,879 got at the shop, which is the card gaming and 196 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:56,240 the behemoth that is Magic the Gathering. And you are 197 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,879 something of a little bit of a player for Magic 198 00:08:58,879 --> 00:08:59,679 the Gathering too, right. 199 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: I mean I'm learning, and I'll be honest with you. 200 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,080 A year ago I would have laughed you out of 201 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,360 the shop if you said you're you're not only going 202 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,120 to be playing Magine, You're gonna know things. You're going 203 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,600 to know how it works and the mechanics. 204 00:09:10,639 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 4: You're going to enjoy it. 205 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:13,759 Speaker 2: I still remember the first person that came in and 206 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:15,799 asked us can we play magic here? And I said, 207 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,879 I genuinely just thought they meant like magic tricks, and yeah, 208 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:22,840 of course, and then another one came in and I 209 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:26,000 was like, okay, what do you mean, what do you mean? 210 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:30,000 And I've got them to explain, and after I said yes, cool, 211 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,519 when they went off away and then another one came 212 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,080 in and it was the guy that came in first, 213 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:36,039 and I said, he said, so I hear that you 214 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,840 are going to let magic play in and I said yeah, 215 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:40,200 he said, I said, he said what format? And I 216 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,320 was like format. There's more ways that I don't even didn't. 217 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,440 I've just got my head around. It's a card game. 218 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: Magic needs are never happy. They always need another thing. 219 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: But they they on my council. They are They've they've 220 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,279 become my friends, and they're they're lovely people and they've 221 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,879 helped this shop grow into a magic center because the 222 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,000 came in and when we want this and went can 223 00:10:02,039 --> 00:10:03,440 you get it? And I mean yeah, and they're like, 224 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,679 we'd rather pay you than the internet, and I'm like okay, 225 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:08,159 So I'd get the stuff in, they'd buy it, we'd 226 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,960 do more, and it sort of just kept like again, 227 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,080 snowballing out of control to the point where they're like 228 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,519 can you get this, this, this, and this? And then 229 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,000 we got in touch with the Wizards of the coast, 230 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,679 all sorts of sponsors and stuff official. Yeah, so we 231 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,399 are now and we're yeah, and we're looking to go premium, 232 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,840 which is obviously quite a big status for the Magic stores. 233 00:10:31,159 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's pretty big. 234 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: I got into Magic probably around ninety six ninety seven 235 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,360 when I was very young, plaid for about a year 236 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,320 or two. I had all those original sets, which which 237 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,159 my momth threw out. I know, I know, think about 238 00:10:44,159 --> 00:10:48,279 it now, it hurts me, hurts me deeply anyway. But 239 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,440 I came back into it through the shop seeing a 240 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,000 bunch of the guys that I played D and D 241 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,879 with crossing over and playing Magic. 242 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that works both ways. We've seen 243 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,440 a lot of players that have played D and D 244 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:00,919 and that seem magic in the shop and like, I 245 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,120 want to get back into it, or I want to 246 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,200 get into it, and you've seen players Magic players that 247 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,960 have gone I want to get involved in a bit 248 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,440 of D and D that looks really cool. 249 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: And yeah, getting back into it has been a real pleasure. 250 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:12,639 There's been a great variety of people to play with, 251 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:14,279 playing with yourself as well. 252 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean we've played in 253 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:19,399 the planes Walk colleague. Yeah, that's why recently which got 254 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,720 absolutely destroyed by current proceedings. But we were having fun. 255 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,360 I'm amazingly terrible. Like in fact I say terrible, I'm not. 256 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,759 I'm that player you would hate to play against because 257 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:34,279 every now and again I know what I'm doing. Most 258 00:11:34,279 --> 00:11:36,759 of the time I don't, so you'll probably beat me, 259 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:39,000 but there's a chance that I also whip your ass 260 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,320 a little bit. But yeah, it's funny and I enjoy 261 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,080 it because when you're playing games like that, I mean, 262 00:11:45,159 --> 00:11:47,279 you can take them too seriously, but the guys here 263 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,919 just want to have Most of them just want to 264 00:11:49,919 --> 00:11:52,120 have fun. And I think having that as the core 265 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:55,039 in the shop attracts so many more people because it's 266 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,279 so chilled and people just go, do you know what, 267 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,480 I just want to come down there, play some cards. Yeah, 268 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,320 social li and enjoying myself. So yeah, it's not really 269 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:09,200 the aggressive competitive environment that some other places have. We 270 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:10,679 get we get and I think we get a lot 271 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,559 more out of that because a lot of people, a 272 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:13,600 lot more people enjoy it. 273 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. People never look ramped up and attacking. 274 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no table flipping and. 275 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: It's hanging out. It's obviously what does that card do 276 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:26,320 that's amazing, super enthusiast. 277 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: And they help each other and they go actually, like, 278 00:12:27,399 --> 00:12:30,320 I mean I've played in games where they've actually scored 279 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,679 me and gone actually, like you could have done that. 280 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,600 And like, honestly, losing is the best way to learn 281 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:40,000 because when you get like you're hand it to you 282 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,200 in a game, you don't do that again. 283 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:42,879 Speaker 3: You don't. 284 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: You learn from your mistakes and they might just be 285 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,200 missing one or two little tricks, but you realize actually 286 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:51,000 that missing that one or two trick, you can't do that. 287 00:12:51,039 --> 00:12:52,919 And if you want to win games. So I mean 288 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:56,759 we're talking about in the sort of semi competitive environment 289 00:12:56,799 --> 00:12:58,360 that we have. We have Friday Night Magic and we 290 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:01,120 have the pre releases. Yeah, so you're there to have fun, 291 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:03,159 but also you would like to win some cool stuff 292 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,440 of course. So that's when you get sort of those 293 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,720 situations where people will help you go, actually, I'm going 294 00:13:08,759 --> 00:13:10,120 to beat you, don't. 295 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: Worry about that. 296 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: But here here's for the next person. And yeah, it's 297 00:13:14,519 --> 00:13:15,120 pretty great. 298 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, common phrase it ausoritizing. With the martial arts that 299 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,480 Wayne and I by studies, you win or you learn. 300 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that's yeah, that's so true. Here, So I've. 301 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: Come to the end of my sort of general overview 302 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:29,240 question staff with regard to the shop, and we want 303 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,120 to talk about a little bit about general any general 304 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,440 nerd geek culture topics that you were interested in. And 305 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,519 you said about how the greatest RP year of all 306 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:43,399 is life, right, the one we're living, the one we're living. 307 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: It would be great if people saw life that way. 308 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,480 I mean, don't get me wrong. Don't go knocking on 309 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:51,080 your like some random stranger and Crawley's door saying excuse me, 310 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,799 so can I spend the night here? And my horse 311 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,519 is dead? And I'm really culd because yeah, yeah, you 312 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,440 might roll the dice and get twenty, but you're still 313 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,879 dying that night. Do you know what I mean? You're 314 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:03,480 going to be in Crawley News because you'll be. 315 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 3: Dead, although if you do give them a gold coin 316 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:07,559 you might be in said. 317 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean again, it's the taking the chances, 318 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:12,440 isn't it. I mean, you can, you can take the chances, 319 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,360 but there might be dead, but you don't really get 320 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,200 to come back to life at the end of the campaign. 321 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't help, but everything is dn D these days. Life. 322 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,039 Speaker 2: We should we should try a mass movement where we 323 00:14:23,039 --> 00:14:25,159 always walk around with D twenties and just like just 324 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,639 make decisions. Yeah, I'm going to go and ask that 325 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:31,519 person for a for a drink, and it's like rolling 326 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:34,279 D twenty, roll of twenty. It's like, I'm going to 327 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,600 go and I'm going to go and do that. I'm 328 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,360 going to get or roll the one and go I'm 329 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,559 going to trip myself up, throw a drink over them 330 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,200 and accidentally stab them and see how that goes. 331 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:45,919 Speaker 4: So one of the reasons that we got Chris on 332 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,480 the show is because not only are we are we 333 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:52,600 massive fans of of his in general, but we are 334 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:55,799 massive fans of the shop. And for me at least, 335 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,320 it's incredibly important, especially at the moment, that we support 336 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,600 our local stores. 337 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, it will become even harder, I think 338 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:10,200 now to break that addiction almost to internet shopping. It's 339 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,159 good in the current environment to encourage that and stay 340 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,759 safe at home and get stuff to you, but as 341 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,240 soon as as possible, get out there to your local shop, 342 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:22,879 and especially this one. If the comic shopping cruelly is 343 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:25,840 your local shop, support them so they can continue to 344 00:15:25,879 --> 00:15:28,080 be here to support you and your community. 345 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,759 Speaker 4: This place has been very important to me, and I'm 346 00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:32,879 sure for you guys out there, your your local store 347 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:36,480 is important to you guys. So if you have a 348 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:39,799 friendly local game store, shout them out in the comments below. 349 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Tell us where they are, tell us what they offer. 350 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:45,960 We'd love to hear the different places around. So maybe 351 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,799 when we're traveling and I've got somewhere to pop in. 352 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, travel and visiting places. 353 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: Oh forgotten what that feels like. Well, I generally have 354 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:59,159 because I probably I'm nearly left the shop. Many I 355 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,960 have been out. I have been let out occasionally, but yeah, 356 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:02,840 generally I live here. 357 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:04,679 Speaker 3: We do a shop swap. 358 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:08,879 Speaker 2: But it is, yeah, it is exactly that we need you. 359 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,679 And that's speaking from all local little game shops. We 360 00:16:12,759 --> 00:16:15,879 need you because what people don't see is like they'll 361 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:18,159 come in and sometimes people see it as a niche 362 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,279 little shop and go, this is nice, and oh that's 363 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:24,440 why their prices are hiked up. Sometimes we literally make 364 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,039 no money on some of the stock we get in. 365 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,519 We got as we're trying to compete and it's just 366 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,320 almost impossible. So sometimes when the prices are a little 367 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,240 bit higher, don't think it's because they're just trying to 368 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,279 milk you for your money. It's because actually sometimes when 369 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,000 we're trying to compete, the discounts that the big online 370 00:16:44,039 --> 00:16:47,240 stores get probably put them at prices that we can't 371 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,879 and probably less than what we even buy them for. 372 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:53,320 So it's not about greed and just have a little 373 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,960 thing that we obviously need you to survive, so we're 374 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,600 grateful that you turn up and support us. And I 375 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,720 think I can speak for all gaming stores where they 376 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:04,839 probably feel the same. So it's it's always stuff that 377 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,880 goes on behind the scenes that you might not think about. 378 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,279 So yeah, but we need you and they need you 379 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:09,640 as well. 380 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,799 Speaker 3: That little extra pound or two. Think of it as 381 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,279 as the love and appreciation that you get from the 382 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,000 community that is available for you in the local shop. 383 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,079 You might save a couple of quid online, but you 384 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,400 won't get the feedback and the appreciation that you get 385 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,200 from coming into a place like this. 386 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, it's almost like a mini investment of keeping 387 00:17:29,279 --> 00:17:32,240 us open because obviously if we go down, then these 388 00:17:32,599 --> 00:17:34,480 and any shop goes down and you lose your local 389 00:17:34,519 --> 00:17:37,599 game store, and that's not just tragedy for them and 390 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:38,920 for everybody. 391 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:40,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it goes for wherever you are in the 392 00:17:40,839 --> 00:17:43,839 world while we're in this situation at the moment. Yeah, definitely, 393 00:17:43,839 --> 00:17:47,160 definitely show them some love and let them know that 394 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,559 you're already. 395 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,599 Speaker 3: In hype to come back. And Comic Shop Online is 396 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:54,440 available for some purchases. 397 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: At the moment, it's just Magic for the new set, 398 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,720 so pre orders and so on. So we're getting pre 399 00:17:59,799 --> 00:18:06,200 order for the next set Chorea, Chorea. Yeah, yeah, definitely, 400 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:08,839 so we're looking forward to that. And again, it's it's 401 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:12,880 heartbreaking to have to say to everyone just wait, because 402 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,359 everyone's just dying to get in here and play. Luckily 403 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,319 they've got empty j arena. But it's not I think again, 404 00:18:19,759 --> 00:18:22,079 people are probably finding out that these things are fine 405 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:23,960 and at least you still get your fix of magic. 406 00:18:24,519 --> 00:18:27,640 But it's not the same as interactions human interactions, playing cards, 407 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,640 seeing them, physically having them in your hand. It's just 408 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:33,079 not the same online as much as like, even I've 409 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:35,759 had a little dabble on it because I've had the 410 00:18:35,759 --> 00:18:39,400 opportunity to and yeah, I've enjoyed it. And it's actually 411 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,319 a good teaching format for new players because in your 412 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,279 own comfort, in the comfort of your own home, you 413 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:48,559 get to sort of relax and actually learn because you 414 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:50,759 can't make mistakes in the computer won't allow you to 415 00:18:50,839 --> 00:18:54,599 do that. So I've I definitely see the benefits, but 416 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,200 I think generally the Magic community want to be with 417 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,880 each other and playing the same. 418 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:03,559 Speaker 3: We've played games on Roll twenty and Discord, but you 419 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,599 need those just not the same. You need to be 420 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,039 able to see when people are going to speak like 421 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:10,680 we're doing now. We're pausing for each other because we 422 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,160 can see each other. You're giving each other that space 423 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,119 and that respect, and it really does matter, I think. 424 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,279 So anyone out there keep in mind that we're waiting 425 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:24,359 for you, and we want you to come back and 426 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,240 do as much as you can and maintain that community 427 00:19:27,279 --> 00:19:28,559 and build it and let it grow. 428 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: So what do you think? What's your favorite thing about 429 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,119 the comic shop? How excited are you to see it 430 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,799 open again? I know I am dying to get back 431 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:40,680 here on the regular and see all your faces. Get 432 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,160 to play some D and D with everybody, gets to 433 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,880 play some magic the Gathering and some board games. Let 434 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,640 us know what you think in the comments below. What 435 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,359 do you want us to talk about next time? Did 436 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,319 you like crisping on the show? I loved it, or 437 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,079 have him back anytime so