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all right. So, Jay, since we last spoke, much has happened.
It's just like this, there's just stories breaking every single
day on Diddy and then in the last week we
saw jay Z enter the mix. So let me just
get your preliminary thoughts on what the hell's going on here.
We had a professor command the other night, Professor Hammimoto,
and he said, there's like a hostile takeover of rap
going down by the powerful banking families, and these guys
are just pawns on that chessboard. But what do you
say to.
Speaker 2: All of that. I've always felt like rap was already controlled,
so I don't know why there would need to be
a hostile takeover. I feel like, you know, from the
earliest days, what we've seen so far is that a
lot of what we were told was fake and gray
we'll say all along. I mean, I kind of felt
like when it was coming out, you know in the
two thousands that Doctor Dre his origins weren't as you know,
hardcore and thug as we thought. He was in a
very mediocre kind of pop band. When it when it
came out that NWA, except for maybe EASYE, was kind
of a creation of the corporations. It wasn't really you know,
gang oriented. So I think gangster rap. You know, it
has come out that there were those those discussions and
MTV back in the day with Sun of Redstone and
others that they would create and kind of promote. This
genre for the West has really been controlled from the
get go. I'm not saying there weren't rappers or whoever
that weren't legit or real, but I think the genre
as a whole has been controlled, much like the rest
of the music industry hasn't been controlled by kind of
a lot of organized crime figures. As you know, there
are gangs, just like in prison. There's gangs for different
people groups in the real world too. So there's Jewish gangsters,
there's Black gangs. There's black secret societies, the Boulet Society,
et cetera. There's societies for white people too, secret societies,
Irish gangs. I mean, so there's gangs everywhere. There's organized crime.
Organized crime has always been involved in the music industry,
I just never. I don't think it's ever not been
the case that it was controlled or taken over. Not
saying there aren't good artists, but for me, man, this
is just like vindication of everything that we in this
domain have been talking about for so many years. And
the reason so much is coming out. I think there's
a lot of reasons why. Part of that has to
do with Trump administration. I have criticisms of Trump. I'm
not saying that he's perfect, but there is at least
the appearance or the discussion of people in government being prosecuted,
people in music industry being prosecuted. So I think there
really are people coming forward. There really are people getting busted.
It may be at the mid tier level and not
the highest levels. Usually the highest level people don't get busted.
But you know, I was just watching some clips about
Michael Jackson and there's a lot of stuff going on
in that background story too. I know that there's allegations
of him being connected to Diddy back in the day,
but some of the stuff that Michael Jackson was saying
about the moguls might have had a hand in his
downfall as well.
Speaker 1: Could you remember any of that stuff to say to
the viewers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think of safe ways to say
it on YouTube. I mean, he had he had that
famous incident where he was singing about a certain people
group and they asked him to change the lyrics and
he said he was going to, and then when he
performed the song, he didn't do it, and he still
kind of made his anti well shall we say, Zionist
comments and that didn't go over well. And so that
was a huge scandal for Michael Jackson. Back in the
damn Ember when that when that was all over the news,
I went back and watched a bunch of those news clips,
and I'm just sort of like reframing and thinking, like,
you know, I don't think Jacko was like a saint.
I mean, he was kind of a weirdo, but you know,
he might have also been onto some things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like when these guys start to get too
big for the boots and demand rights back and yeah, exactly,
we saw that. We saw that with did and Diagio,
whereby they paid him a billion already and he's resuming
them for racism. We think, yeah, he was, he was winning.
I think he won that, and then he was contributing
to reputational damage to that company. But talking about deals,
we analyzed the Diddy deals and they equalled X. We
analyzed the jay Z deals and they equalled why, which
was a multiple of X network two point five billion
NFL have come out and back to jay Z. Oh,
and it seems that jay Z's in a much bigger club. Yeah,
then did he was in and that the club appears
to me, I've rallied around jay Z. They're trying to
destroy Busby the lawyer. They're trying to destroy Jane though,
who's made this allegation. How do you think that will
play out? Will the club be able to protect jay Z?
Is this process that's under way gonna continue, maybe even
more allegations will come out.
Speaker 2: It's a good question because we know, like we're saying,
there are people that are above the level of the
stars that are usually untouchable. So you kind of have
these handler figures in the background. You go all the
way back to Elvis, and you know, Colonel Tom was
his handler in the background, kind of you know, stealing
from him, ribbing him off, all this kind of stuff.
The artists are always subservient to these handler figures, usually
some kind of music mogul, you know, Like I said,
Jacko was always taught calling out Tommy Tola and other characters. Prince,
you know, remember Prince had the same situation where Prince
changed his name so that he could have control of
some of the catalog and then it wouldn't be controlled
by the record companies. So you know, a lot of
these figures are always in the background, kind of unknown.
We know about Clive Davis. In the case of Diddy
jay Z, though, I think you're right, there's something unique
about his situation where he seems to have graduated above
the artist arena into kind of the higher sphere, and
he may be untouchable. I don't know. I know that
one one sign we always see when it's a lot
of these characters is that the ones that reach that higher,
higher level, they usually signify their status by a lot
of the symbolism that they use. And of course jay
Z was one of the first artists. If you go
back in the early two thousands, around the time of
a lot of this controversy, he was signifying his allegiance
to Alice for Crowley, you know, the famous Satanist of
the last century. You know, he first wore of any
artists I'm aware of in this but at least in
the rahapsphere, was openly wearing a lot of Krollian gear,
Crollian swag. You know when he was doing this symbol
A lot of people don't know that's actually a symbol
that comes out of the Rituals of the Golden Dawn.
So it's the triangle of manifestation. And so you know
jay Z was always doing this for HOVA and Rockefeller
Records and all that that was kind of his symbol
but actually comes out of the Rituals of the Golden
Dawn and the Croley Circle. So I think what I'm
getting at is that if there's a symbolism sign that
we could see about the untouchables, usually it involves being
part of some kind of secret society network like we're
talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking at some of these pictures now
and the symbolism the But talking about symbolism then Beyonce,
what are your thoughts on on Beyonce and her you know,
relationship with jay Z, partners in crime, et cetera. What
do you think, you know.
Speaker 2: With a lot of these pop girls that come out
of the it's like they have this early period where
they're very innocent. We saw that with Britney Spears. We
saw that with Katie Perry. Katy Perry used to be
a quote Christian musical artist, so he had this radical transformation.
We saw it with Miley Cyrus. Ironically, Miley Savrese even
had a TV show where she had like a double
life in you know, Hannah Montana, So that might be
telling us something. But a lot of the Disney stars
came out of that genre of having a very innocent
upbringing and then they suddenly turn into like total whorors
basically in the public sphere. I think there's a reason
for that. I think that the handlers, the people in
the background kind of in a way pimp out their stars.
They make them go through these humiliation rituals. We talked
about that in the past, but I would say the
same thing is there with Beyonce. What we see with
Beyonce is, you know, she has upbringing as a really
very quiet church girl. She wasn't that you know, interested
in seeking the limelight. She liked to dance, we're told
in her background. But at some point along the way,
when she got involved with Destiny's Child and then met
jay Z and these people, there seems to have been
a radical change in what happened to her. She became
became a different person. In fact, she describes herself and
again I don't know how much of this as artistic
license or just you know, musicians and artists trying to
reinvent themselves. But she had that period if you remember
where she wasn't Beyonce anymore. She was Sasha Fears what
she claimed was an alternate personality that had taken over her. Again,
I don't know how real or just made up that
is for marketing, but it could be the case that,
you know, maybe there's a kind of a pimp handler
relationship going on here. When she meets these people, her
life drastically changes. But I think that it's you know,
the allegory that we hear about the selling your soul
to the devil, I think it really relates more so
to like these situations where if you want to get
into these higher ranks, if you want to be in
one hundred million billion dollar category, a lot of times
you've got to be willing to make your bones, so
to speak. And that could be literal as well. A
lot of people in these circles, as you know, we're
dealing with billions of dollars here, we're dealing with lots
and lots of money, fame, attention, a lot of deals.
People end up dead around a lot of these people,
and I don't think that that's accidental. It's not just
organized crime. I think there's also elements of blackmail, So
people need to be blackmailed before they can go up
into the higher ranks, to make sure that you're not
going to write on anybody, because if you do, you
go down to.
Speaker 1: See he's talking about people getting compromised. Then would you
include Justin Bieber in that category have been put through
some kind of ritual.
Speaker 2: It's looking like that's the case. I mean, I don't
I haven't followed Bieber closely. I've watched all the stuff
relating to the old clips of Diddy with Bieber with
that are very very suspicious. And you've got Curly on
the screen there. I mean, one of the things that
Curly talked about was how can I put this dominating
people from the backside? So shall we say to make
sure that they are subservient to the cult. We know
that A lot of times people in that sphere talk
about how and I don't know what to believe about this,
but they almost speak of it like it's not so
much about the sexuality of it, but it's the humiliation
shows the subservience. Basically that you know you're in my
bit so to speak, you're going to do what we
want and so if you if we tell you to
do X y Z in a sexual way, you're going
to do it because we own you, you know. And
think back to that famous statement of Diddy back in
the day when he was on that TV show I
think it was that VH one reality show he had
about you know, his interns and you know, can you
be an intern for Ditty or whatever? And one of
the interns said, Hey, you know, I've been out trying
to find some of the hottest talent out there. Blah
blah blah blah. Did he said, stop? I don't want
you finding talent. I want you finding people that are
not talented that we can make into stars, because if
they're not talented, we can control them all the more
because they owe everything to us. People that are talented,
they don't need us. They can go still be stars.
So you want to find people that are not talented.
And again that's just the other component of this is
controlling them, especially in some kind of humiliating sexual way.
I would not be surprised if they didn't do that
or try that with Bieber. I don't know, obviously, but
I mean the way that Didd he acts with Bieber
and all these clips is really weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really creepy. So you've got tons of questions
coming in jay and this one is from Labou. If
the likes of did they and jay Z go down,
who are the others that will take the place.
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I mean, the moguls will still
be there. I think you could argue jay Z he's
kind of a mogul, you know. I mean, he's like,
like you're saying, Sean, he's passed into that mogul category.
But what I think we'd like to see is more
of the mogul power structure go down. I mean, I
think you start looking at who was super close to
jay Z and Diddy throughout this last twenty plus years.
I mean we're talking j Lo, We're talking to Oprah,
We're talking to Obamas. I mean we're talking all of
I mean a huge portion of the Cuba Gooding junior
people in Hollywood are very close to these people. A
lot of other executives. So again, that doesn't necessarily mean
they're all bad or guilty. But you know, think about Oprah,
you know she I think you could argue she covered
up her close associations with the John of God cult,
which was demonstrated to be a human trafficking, a cult,
you know, mind control, operation baby Farming. All that was
going on with John God that just disappeared. She scrubbed
all that as best she could, and I wouldn't be
I mean, look, you know, like attracts like, and so
I hope to see more of the big people go down,
but it's hard to say. I mean, I don't know
if it really will. Do they ever? It seems like
a lot of times, and you can probably speak to
this better than me, like a lot of times people
that are running it kind of get off or they
skate free and they go after the mid to load
tier people. Those are the ones that take the.
Speaker 1: Rap question from Adam, how sketchy is Tommy Mottola, Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you believe all the stuff that you know,
Jacko says they were really sketchy, just trying to rip
him off. And the thing about Jacko that's really weird
is that it actually gets into the occult stuff explicitly.
Because Michael Jackson and maybe he was on drugs, maybe
he was out of it when he said this, But
do you guys remember when he was saying that Spielberg
and others were putting spells on him and that they
were doing voodoo, and that Jacko claimed he was going
to do a counter spell against their spells, and people
don't remember that. Do you remember that up? Yeah? Have
you heard of that? Yeah? So, I mean, whether that's
true or not, but it's like, that's what's going on
in the mindset of the pop stars. And it came
out about ten years ago. One of Michael Jackson's kids
actually drew a bunch of occult symbols and posted it
on Twitter and said, you know, here's what's really going on.
It was kind of mysterious, but it was like, you know,
the it was like a Golden Dawn hexagram. It's ritual
magic type stuff. So there's definitely something like that going
on at that sphere. And again, I just think that
they're using these cults to control people. So I wouldn't
be surprised if Tommy, Omtol and all these people weren't
involved in oto occult secret society stuff.
Speaker 1: So Melissa's wondering about your thoughts on Bohemian Grove.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've I've been aware of that for
all that since the days of Alex Jones, you know,
going in there in two thousand and one, whenever that was.
I read a few books on it. I think that's
the you know, fake right wing version of the establishment's
traditional meeting place every year. It's kind of a kind
of a right wing Builder Bird Group, same type of thing.
A lot of the same people will go to both.
It does have a loose occult fixation. If you go
back to the origins of the Builderberg or the Behaemian Club,
they were into druid philosophy. They would do Druidic rights
out in the forest, and then it kind of evolved
into this big, you know, CEO GOP thing. You've got
Reagan going there, You've got Nixon going there. They came
up with a Star Wars defense program at Bohemian Grove
when Reagan was there back in the eighties or late seventies,
early eighties. So I think it matters. It's important. You
could look at Helmut Schmidt, who was the former Chancellor
of Germany. I bought his book because I remember Alex
talking about this and I didn't believe it. But if
you buy a helmet Schmidt's book called Men in Powers,
there's a section where he says, yes, I went to
Bohemian Grove and yes we do the rituals there, and
yes it's all about you know, controlling the world. And
so that's just one of the many elite you know
sUAS Rais where they rumored to have you know, shall
we say, skittles, rainbow stuff going on for the GOP.
Speaker 1: Next question, it's Spielberg part of this whole thing. That's
from Lisa Thompson.
Speaker 2: Well, if you look at Whitney Webb's material, you know,
she says that you've got this Mega Group, which is
really powerful group of you know, Jewish and Israeli billionaires
who are very interested in not just entertainment but also
influencing the political sphere. She makes a lot of connections
between the Mega Group and you know, some of the
jeff Stein McCaffrey stuff, shall we say. So I wouldn't
be surprised if he I don't think he's like a controller,
but I think he's definitely interested in some degree of
influencing American pop culture. Obviously set a huge role in promoting,
for example, the alien UFO mythology, which I don't I
think it's a big syop. So think Spielberg played a
key role in promoting a lot of that ideology. So
I would say, if the Mega group information is true,
that's probably the case.
Speaker 1: So Sasy is asking what documentaries would you recommend to
learn about this topic?
Speaker 2: Who That's a good question. Off the top of my head,
I'm not sure of a good documentary just about Hollywood. Actually,
I did a TV show. The best on this topic
is my TV show that you can still watch at
Guya TV. We did a full production, full season of
a TV show called Hollywood Decoded and it's meet Together
with a guy named Jay Wiedner. It's still available. You
can find it online at Gaya dot com. It is
buying a paywall, but you can watch some of the
episodes free. We basically just walked through about twenty three
of the of the top films of the last century
that really show the hidden aspects of Holly with symbolism,
the cult, so stuff we're talking about today, like we
do a deep dive on Kubrick Eyes, White Shut, all
these kind of classic films that show you what's really
going on. So I would say, watch watch my TV show.
Speaker 1: After an interview last time Jay I had to go
and rewatch, Eyes wide shut. Yeah, it's scary wild, huh.
Speaker 2: I mean I think that, like that's what these music
moguls are.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: I think Diddy was like a mini version of that
kind of stuff, you know, because Kubrick's talking about I
think higher level, higher powered people above Diddy. But it's
the same idea. It's like that they kind of do
this same pattern of Oh, come to the big party.
Oh there's an orgy. If you want to come to
the after party, then there's this that, and the next
thing you know, you've been videotaped and your you know you're.
Speaker 1: Screwed, yeah literally, and yeah, and you know you've done
tons on Kubrick and Eyes white shut. The theory that
he was telling us and then he died because of that,
Is there anything to that?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I didn't really pay much attention to that.
Vivian Kubrick messages me all the time. That's his daughter.
We've had some good conversations. I keep trying to get
her to do an interview, and she's really hesitant to
do interviews, so she doesn't really want to speak on it.
But I'm trying my best to get her to talk
about it. But I thought I just kind of was
agnostic on that for a long time because I didn't know.
But then it was interesting that I think Richard Avery,
I still have yet to listen to this recent Rogan podcast.
Have you heard about this Rogan Tarantino podcast the other day?
So actually they brought this up, right, So they're actually
talking about this topic, and the Avery was saying that
he thinks there's something to it. I think, so I
may have to reassess my agnosticism and maybe there is
something to it.
Speaker 1: All right, So Nicky's wondering whether you've seen the more
contemporary film Blink Twice.
Speaker 2: Yes. I thought it was a little on the woke side,
But if you set aside the woke stuff, that's another
one of these films. It's pretty revelatory where you have
basically really really wealthy billionaire people finding young girls inviting
them out to their island. I thought it was really
odd that this was an island and it's almost like,
you know, again Jeff Justine mcguffrey, code word there type stuff.
He gets them out there, he drugs them. They're using
mind control techniques. They're basically it's like an extreme form
of roofie. I don't even I forget what it's some
kind of illusion in that makes you forget, you know.
And then even what was interesting about the film of
Spoiler Alert was even at the end, like the main guy,
the Channing Tatum or whoever it was, he himself seems
to have been kind of abused in mind control because
he has he sort of had these different personas going on,
and it almost been raised to be this way. So
I think there is this generational component to where, you know,
think about just laying you know, she's taught all this
stuff by Robert her dad, who was a Cold War
era compromiser and intelligence operative, et cetera. So I think
this is generationally passed down. Then that film.
Speaker 1: Showed, so yeah, I'll just add a bit of that.
So I'm glad that that film came out, and I
think perhaps it had to be woke to get past
the gatekeepers.
Speaker 2: Good point.
Speaker 1: Well, in reality, that film would have ended with those
young ladies getting chopped up in feds of the fish.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's my that's my perspective, your point.
Speaker 1: All right? So yeah, so Peacock is a hierarchy of
black magic in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: To a degree. Yeah, I mean if you go back
to the earliest days of Hollywood. Uh, like when you
had the first big well this was this more more
German film. But like Fritz Lang was putting heavy satanic
stuff in his films. This is public, this was like academia.
This isn't a conspiracy theory. First, Lang was putting all
kinds of satanic symbolism in his films. Actually, writing my
third book, I circlely with three on this topic right now.
So there's been a long time association of Hollywood with
the satanic and the occult. If you go back to
the Elizabeth Elizabeth's Smart case where she was ritually dismembered
and murdered in the Black Dolia case, that's another direct
tie into a lot of high level Hollywood figures. In fact,
for a while, Orson Wells was a suspect in the
Black Dolia case because George Hodell was so close to
people like John Houston. Houston has oftentimes been associated with
this case. So even Edward G. Robinson, the famous actor,
was associated with those circles too. So I think this
has always appealed to people in film artists, creative types.
They're sort of drawn to these fringe, aberrant religious movements
a lot of times because they think they'll they'll get
maybe inspiration, they'll get networking ca abilities through these secret societies.
And I think what's really going on most of the
time is that a lot of these cults are run
by really cunning, deceptive people who are controlling people. They're
not really I mean, there is a sense in which
you can go up the ladder and get power through
the cults, but you're also becoming their bitch, like we
said earlier. So yeah, I think there is this hierarchy
of secret societies and cults, but it's a super tight
control system more so than it is like real magic.
Speaker 1: All Right, we've got well over three thousand watching live.
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all the questions coming in. There's tons of them. I'll
try and get through as many as possible. Felicia, what
does Jay think of the movies? Oe Kravitz Lenny's thoughts
are produced? Know which one that is? Uh?
Speaker 2: Didn't she produce Blink twice?
Speaker 1: Is that? Was that?
Speaker 2: What I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1: Was that I already covered that, then all right, let's
go over the hell's all these movies that show the
symbolism all deep state aw some from the light side,
trying to show us what's really going on, we would hope,
so that'll be good.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's either O or I think there's
a you know, you're dealing with hundreds of people, thousands
of people sometimes that go into the making of a movie.
So I think that usually what you find with the
high level propaganda or the you know, mind control is
like the big blockbusters usually have the most propaganda. They're
they're the ones that are usually trying to deflect and
you know, make some other country the bad guy if
it's a Bond movie or something like that, or or
they'll you know, try to get the message out, but
then it gets skewed and it's the it's reversed as
to who's really behind it. So there's a mix of
things going on. A lot of independent films might be
better nowadays for actually telling us what's going on rather
than the blockbuster studio films. But again, the studio system
is dying, so that's going away. That's a legacy. It's
all transitioning over into like streaming services and Apple studios
and Amazon studios. So I don't think it's getting any
better per se. But I think actually people are getting
tired of just all the Hollywood degeneracy in the nonsense,
and maybe this will open it up to where a
lot more independent filmmakers can be successful. That seems to
be already happening so now. But I don't think they're
all bad now.
Speaker 1: Question from GMC Films ask Jay about the Processed Church
of the Final Judgment and the worrying of the Black Capes.
Speaker 2: The process Church is interesting because they were started in
the UK. If I recall, their origins relate to people
closely associated with British intelligence in the UK. They pop
up through the figure of at least in the America.
The most relevant in the case is Robert de Grimston,
who was a former Roman Catholic priest who became a
member of the Processed Church. And this is the link
to So Manson gets involved in the Processed Church through
this finds there the weird philosophy theology to be very influential.
It's a very gnostic dualist philosophy. This inspires Helter Skelter
where he comes with this idea like a future apocalyptic
race war. Nowadays, I think they've kind they still exist,
but they've rebranded as some kind of animal rights thing,
which is really weird. But if you go back to
the Processed Church magazine, what's the most fascinating about that
is that when that was out in the seventies and eighties,
they were publishing articles by Jimmy Savile. There's an article
in there by Mick Jagger, So I think Manson even
contributed at one point or was on the cover of
process Shirt. So you start to notice like a lot
of the figures that you might expect that are all
kind of connected, are all working through this front organization
which is really a mind control operation. And I think
that suggests, as Tom O'Neill and others have point it
out in their books, that you know, Manson's not just
a random organic guy. He seems to have had some
very clear mk ultrip type.
Speaker 1: Associations abundantly empowered. Is asking what are your thoughts Jay
on the CIA connection to Hollywood? Has Hollywood always been
a sy.
Speaker 2: Up, well even before the existence of the CIA and
before the OSS, and actually wrote some chapters on this
in my previous books. You know, there's always been a
close connection between military intelligence and filmmaking. The earliest films
that were big blockbusters, like The End of the Days
of Howard Hughes, things like Hell's Angels, those were military
intelligence propaganda war films. People don't know that Alfred Hitchcock
worked closely with both the Office of Wartime Intelligence and
British Intelligence to produce propaganda films for British intelligence. So
even the biggest directors, you can go back to Darryl Zanak,
he worked together with the OSS to make certain films
that would promote Western intelligence objectives. So absolutely, and then
it only as those entities rebrand, you go from the
OSS to the CIA, it only gets closer and closer
of an intimate connection. I mean under the period of
Ronald Reagan, Reagan was actually just allocating government money to
Hollywood to churn out just NonStop kind of propaganda films
for all branches of the military. Top Gun classic example
of that. So absolutely, it's always been flip sides of
the same coin. And by the way, this is why
so many of the top A list actors and actresses
have in countless case has been famous spies. They're recruited
to be intelligence operatives. Whether it's Julia Child or whether
it's Jimmy Stewart, you know, he worked for the FBI,
Julia Child worked for the OSS. Even Audrey Hepburn like
she did counter intelligence stuff for the you know, anti
Nazi networks for the UN, the United Nations stuff. I mean,
so she would she did peacekeeping, anti Nazi stuff. Maybe
it wasn't the UN, but it was it was some
kind of NGO that she was working for. I mean,
most of these actors, Marilyn Monroe had a Department of
Defense badge and she had access to all these like
government places. I mean, so it's like it's it's it
never ceases to amaze me, like how many of these
actors and actresses have worked for intelligence. And by the way,
I think you can look at people like Ben Affleck
and people like that who almost kind of admit that
they do. You know, he's like, oh, yeah, of course,
you know, we consult with the CIA to make movies
like Argo. I mean, I think some of those people
were actually just literally worked for the CIA.
Speaker 1: And you're getting asked about MK Ultra, the Manson family,
Sharon Tate, what are your thoughts though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I believe that thesis loosely for a long time.
I read some books maybe ten fifteen years ago that
speculated about the relationship between Manson and mk Ultra. That
seems to be indicated through the more recent work of
Tom O'Neill and Chaos, the Chaos Book. I think that
that's true. It seems like when Manson was in prison,
he also you know, went through all the levels of
scientology to achieve THETA clear. To me, that just screams
like brainwashing, mind control. I think that's what scientology is,
kind of a brainwashing things. So exactly how it all
worked out, I don't know, But there's definitely a lot
of people around in the orbit of Manson who have
these organized crime and intelligence connections, Jay Sea Bring, Bobby Bozole,
you know, Processed Church, British intelligence. Yeah. I think Manson
was probably a kind of incault subject, if not totally
of my controlled pawn. But exactly how it all went down,
I don't know. I don't know if he was literally
handled to tell people to go murder people or how
it went down, but I do think that it's fishy
for sure.
Speaker 1: Madame Papillon does Jeben thoughts on the film Rosemary's Baby
and its supposed links to Sharon Tate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the same book that I'm talking about,
Like there were there were people writing about this ten
fifteen years ago talking about the alleged association between Anton
Levy and the film, which I think has been debunked.
I think Anton Levy wasn't involved in the production of
the film. But this would more so relate to the
circles of Roman Polanski, because Roman Polanski was obviously he
was married to Sharon Tate, but I'm not alleging that
he caused it or was behind it. But there have
been books written that talked about the involvement in various
occult activities that were going on with Angelica Houston and
other people in those circles when they were having these
parties where supposedly the underage stuff happened that resulted in
Polanski leaving the country and living in I think Poland
or where he lives. So that to me suggests that yeah,
there are secret society occult things going on with the
with Polanski at least, and with the circles of the
Mansons and the Tates. So I wouldn't be surprised if
she wasn't some kind of occult sacrifice. Right.
Speaker 1: Next question then is what is the process of going
through mk ultra.
Speaker 2: Well, in Kultra was a series of dozens and dozens
of different projects. So that's kind of a loose term
that's used for all of these, but in reality, Kultra
was done at dozens of universities, It was done in
military bases, it was done at psychiatric institutions, hospitals. It
was like a broad, vast research operation that involved everything
from LSD to sleep studies. In fact, most people don't
know that a lot of m culture research is being
done in Australia and a lot of the famous doctors
out of the Australian system that we're studying schizophrenia. There's
a serial killer, one of the most famous serial killers
in Australia's name is Harry Something. But he was in
charge of a giant sleep studies clinic and what he
was doing was putting people to the point of death
and then bringing them back immediately as part of his
But that turned out to be part of m Kiltra.
So I mean M kelch was very broad, very vast,
and so even the Theodore Kazinski when he was at Harvard.
He actually signed up to be part of m k
Ltra explicitly, I think, probably because he thought he would
just get free free drugs. So that's the sense I got.
I don't think he knew he was what he was
getting into, but it was like, oh man, they're giving
up free drugs, dude, yeah, let's do it. But he
ended up part of mk Ultra. In fact, Whitey Bulger,
Whitey Bulger was part of m Kiltra. He was being
given LSD I think in prison if I recall. So
it's very broad, very vast.
Speaker 1: Annabelle's asking your thoughts on the nineteen twenty seven Moving Metropolis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I included that in my second book. It's I
think it's the last chapter in my second book because
there's a lot of weird socialist st eric stuff going
on in there. I think ritz Lang Ifa re Call
was explicitly a socialist, and so the point of that
book of that movie is to demonstrate that we can
have a future technocracy, but we're gonna have to be
careful because you can't let the classes have class war.
So they have to in some way function in a synergy.
That's the point of the movie at the end. But
what's most interesting about the movie is that it came
out in the nineteen twenties, and you have this idea
of the creation of AI and sex bots in a
nineteen twenties film, and that's where right now, like one
hundred years later, at the point where they're beginning to
roll this out. So I think it's a very prophetic film,
and that's what I highlighted in my chapter on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just started to watch this movie sub something
about this rope up?
Speaker 2: Oh did Megan fox one? Yeah, Yeah, we just watched that. Yeah,
you'll see what it's. It's kind of a it's like
an updated version of Metropolis exactly.
Speaker 1: And there was what juice ex machine I'm gonna pronouncing
it correct that one as well?
Speaker 2: Oh ex Machina that was. That was actually really good
to know we covered those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So Sarai Gonzalez, does the current status
of Hollywood and how it operates reflect the founders of Hollywood?
Did they design it to be this way exploitative and controlling.
Speaker 2: To a degree? Yes, I mean I don't know that
they knew what it would become, but the earliest days
of Hollywood, and then the vaudeville and then the studio systems,
Like when the studio system comes about. If I recall
this is from mainline academia. This is not my theory,
but I recall, I mean it's pretty much all but one,
like four or five of the major studios, the heads
of them were all members of They were all Freemasons,
very active free Mason So I think that from the
earliest days they wanted to lock down that system and
control it. And even the one studio that wasn't, which
I think was RKO, well that was like Rockefeller. So
that you have like studio systems owned by a certain
people group, shall we say, from the Middle East, and
then you have one studio that's like owned by the
moguls of America. So it's it's yes, I would say
it's always been intentionally. Doesn't mean everybody's bad, doesn't mean
all the movies are bad. It just means that overall
the system was there as a massive propaganda engine for sure.
Speaker 1: Question from Tador about the Tavistock Institute alleged to have
a task to suffocate cultural optimism of post war fifties
and sixties what her thoughts on the Tavistock Institute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gone pretty deep into Tabsak. In fact, I
just recently got one of their official histories from a
guy HV. Dix who was a member of the Tabstock Institute,
and the official history, written in the nineteen sixties or seventies,
actually basically admits a lot of this. So we've had
people in the conspiracy sphere writing for a long time
about the role of Tavistock, doctor John Coleman, Daniel Estalin,
so a lot of people have talked about it for
a long time, and in fact, it was pretty clear
that they were very open in the last ten years
that Tavistock was at the tip of the sphere pushing
the tr and S agenda. For the last ten years,
they've admitted this, and they supposedly were shutting down the
clinic because it was so there was so much backlash
against it. I would not be surprised if they weren't
involved in every aspect of social engineering, including how to
do you word it, shutting down optimism or something like that. Yeah,
they've They've been in the premiere brainwashing institute for the
last one hundred years. I think I mean, and you
have people like all the people from the Frankfurt School,
You've got Carl Young, You've got everybody who's anybody working
with Tabastock over the years.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, we've got twenty minutes left with Jay.
Get your questions in before big Homie comes in.
Speaker 2: And am I not big home?
Speaker 1: He's six six foot eight? I think?
Speaker 2: Okay, he wins, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: Pam. Is there anybody in Hollywood who hasn't sold a
sould to the devil? And why do they thank God
that the award ceremonies said they worship the devil? It's
an inversion, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, yeah, they could mean their God, right, they
could mean the devil. They could mean anything. Also, they
could do it just for a public purview, right, because
most people in America are not open Satanists, So they
might just be doing it to look good and like, Okay,
so the Americans believe in God or whatever, so I'll
say thank you God. So maybe just for looks in
pr But yeah, I would imagine there's plenty of people
who aren't totally sold out, or who you know are naive,
or who you know have good intentions. I mean again,
the old legacy systems going away, so I think that'll
be less and less relevant. I've done a lot of
interviews with Jamie Kennedy, the comedian and the guy from
you Know, Malboy's Most Wanted Scream. We've done a lot
of live shows and stand up and podcasts together, and
he's very candid in his podcast and the interviews we've done.
He's like Hollywood's dead. He's like, I'm still here, I
still work in it, but this old legacy system is
dying and going away. And I don't think Jamie sold
his soul. He's very open, he's antieing the world order.
He's very honest, cool guy. So he's one example. I
think there's plenty of other people too. I'm sure I've
met some other I've met some comedians and stand ups
that are pretty well known, and I don't think their
sellouts or bad guys. I think typically the most sold
out would be, like we're talking about earlier, like when
you get to that certain like one hundred million dollars
billion dollar love, that's where you're kind of required and
expected to sell out. I think.
Speaker 1: Murray wants your most recent favorite book title.
Speaker 2: I'm reading a book right now on the history of
British espionage in terms of the turn of the last century.
It's called Black Gold Spies and it's about how the
British Empire was really mainly concerned with locking down control
of oil. They didn't actually end up getting that. It
ended up being America and the Rockefellers that really won that.
But it's an insight into how the British power structure worked,
the royal society, how it worked at the turn of
the last century. So it's highlighting people like T. E.
Lawrence Lawrence of Arabia, if you've never seen that movie,
it's kind of about that. So that's a really good book.
I recommend that to anybody who's interested. And the reason
that matters you're like, well, that's one hundred and twenty
years ago, who cares, Well, the way the system operates,
it's the same. So if you go back to the
Great Game of what Russia and the West we're doing
one hundred plus years ago, it's the same stuff that's
happening right now. So like history just repeats, that's why
it matters, same stuff, but with high tech, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are asking about a lot
of different names and a lot of different questions about
people getting dragged into the jay Z Diddy thing. And
I'll give you some of the names, Naomi Campbell, Mary J. Blige,
Lebron j Low, Beyonce. You know, they think there could
be some kind of domino effect with these other people.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I would. I wouldn't be surprised. I would.
I would think that the way all of those groups
work is like a kind of network and secret society structure,
even if they're not all literally in the same secret society.
We know that. For example, Boole Society is a great
example of like a high level, prominent black secret society
or fraternity so to speak. I actually believe a lot
of fraternities are just kind of watered down secret societies
or maybe even actual fall on secret societies, kind of
like Skull and Bones. You know, Skalling Bones is a
great example of you know, Yale, Harvard people whatever there.
I know it's from Yale, but people out of that
power structure, the wasp of power structure, that's how they're
recruited into the OSS and the CEO structure. And I
think you have these same type of things for other
people groups like black secret societies, black networks that recruit,
so they're going to operate the same way as Skull
and Bones and those things work. It's just for other
people groups. So that being the case, I would not
be surprised if j Low and all these, Naomi camp
wasn't Naomi Campbell close to Epstein.
Speaker 1: She's everyone did E Weinstein, all of them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I wouldn't be surprised, But I don't
know any specifics.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So Susan is saying, if Hollywood is dead,
well replace.
Speaker 2: It right now, it's just shifting to the Internet and
the you know, studio systems of Amazon, Apple, forget the
other one. I guess Netflix has their own studios, So
I mean, it's just internet now. But I mean it's
the same ethos. It's not fundamentally different terms of its
morals and the propaganda. In fact, it's probably worse now
because it seems like the kind of messaging that we
get from Netflix, you know, the last few years, has
been even worse than what Hollywood's able to put out.
So it'll go to that. But I mean, I don't know,
maybe maybe those things that the people and I think
Netflix has been stock has been going down over the
last several years with their scandals. Disney has been tanking
through their scandals with all the degeneracy that they pushed,
So hopefully people will continue to not support these mega
entities that are mind controlling everybody.
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on the movie Wizard of Oz. I'm
wicked the people who wrote the stories.
Speaker 2: I've looked into Frank Baum. I think he's an interesting
character because he was a theosophist, so he was involved
in the occult kind of a you know, weird secret
society kind of dude, and he did pack a lot
of theosophical meanings into the OZ series. If you look
at something like Return to Oz. We did a whole
podcast breakdown on that film, which is a really weird
Disney film in the nineteen eighties, and you know, there's
a lot of mind control and kilter stuff going on
in that film. But I would say that overall, I
think the ethos is very similar to the patterns of
the stories that you see in Through the Looking Glass.
I've done big breakdowns of that book by Lewis Carroll,
and there's a lot of mind control, alternative mpdd ID
stuff going on explicitly in Lewis Carroll's books. I think
it's the same stuff going on with Oz. So they've
become really good structures and patterns for people who are
into mind control. In fact, I think doctor You and
Cameron in John Markx's book named Kultra it was Wizard.
It was either Wizard of Oz or Lewis Carroll's uh
looking glass that he used as his pattern supposedly for
trying to restructure a person's personality. So they literally did
at one point use these stories as models of how
to try to create different personalities in people. Whether they
were super successful that, I don't know. We're not a
lot of the m culture research was destroyed, so we
don't know how successful it was. But yeah, I think
there is a I don't know that Frank Baum intended
it to be an in culture thing. You didn't know
about that. But people were realizing a long time ago,
even ancient Egypt, they seem they seemed to realize that
you could hypnotize people. People had perhaps multiple personalities in
the ancient world, the possession type stuff. So I think
that as we get closer to the modern era, people
were just kind of putting these ideas under their stories
and then they become templates for later into sellectuals or
mind control of mad scientists to try to say, oh,
let's try to use this as a as a manual.
Speaker 1: Susan Watson, if you think the film La Confidential is
a good reflection of early Hollywood corruption and debauchery.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love La Convenational. In fact, that's one
of my favorite neo NWA films. We did a podcast
on that a few years ago. Get you do get
some interesting insights into because that film is about you know,
the police being corrupt, kind of working with drug prostitution rings,
Hollywood being involved. So yeah, it's a great insight into
exactly what we're talking about today, that Hollywood's really never
been a different. Music industry is the same way, never
been any different. Absolutely, what do you make.
Speaker 1: Of all these drone videos that are coming out over America.
Speaker 2: I think it's some kind of deep state side up.
I don't exactly know what the point is. It might
be to undermine Trump, it might be to you know,
it might need to lay the groundwork to say that
we're being drone attacked by Iran or Russia to then
have a false justification for war, uh troops on the
ground in Iran troops, you know, American troops in the Ukraine.
I mean, it could be a justification for that, But
I don't believe that there's anything alien involved in it.
I'm a big supporter of the thesis that the alien
stuff is a giant sy op. If you just watch
a document documentary like Mirage Man, it's really good for that.
Speaker 1: Is there any any drones over your state?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, so far. I mean.
Speaker 2: All I've heard about so far is Colorado, California, New Jersey.
But it seems to be kind of like every every
day there's like a new story of these crazy drones,
probably up so in the maybe in the next couple
of days, or maybe today we'll get one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Sky's Shrine, is asking for your thoughts
on flight MH seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Malaysian stuff, I follow up. I remember following that
at the time. I don't have anything conclusive on it.
I don't believe it was like mystical warp technology that
made it warp to some other place. I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 1: Becky, I've heard a lot of Stars of the Dark.
What's about Keanu Reeves. He seems light, but Johnny Depp
seems dark.
Speaker 2: I maybe, I mean, it does seem like, you know,
Keano's energy is a positive, nice guy at least as
far as I can tell. I don't know anything about him,
but I know that Johnny Depp at one time did
state that he was involved in the occult explicitly. He
did say about ten years ago, maybe fifteen years ago,
he said that he was involved in chaos magic, which
is a real thing. It's a real magic tradition. So
you know, maybe he learned hard the hard way that
that's not a good practice. I don't know, but yeah,
I think yeah, I think usually you can kind of
get a good sense of the and sometimes people can
be super psychopathic and fool you and they seem really nice,
but they're like the most dastardly people that happen sometimes.
But probably, yeah, that that thesis is right.
Speaker 1: So it's Tom Cruise involved at the top level. Is
involved at the top level of scientology, isn't he.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Tom Cruise is one of these people
that we're talking about, like that seems to be kind
of at a high like I mean, I would I
don't know, I can't prove. This is my opinion. People
like Ben Affleck, people like Matt Damon, George Clooney, they
have a history of explicitly working with the CIA in
a very open way, perhaps even being CIA themselves. In fact,
I always play that it's either Guardian or Telegraph. In
an interview from ten years ago where Ben Affleck literally
says you could do the interviews still on YouTube. You
can pull it up. He says, look Hollywood in the
CI or flip sides the same coin. A bunch of
people in Hollywood work for the CIA, and vice versa.
And if you go I mean, just if you go
to the CIA page on Instagram and you look at
who follows it, it's literally all the people that you
would think like that are in CIA TV shows. So
it's Clare Danes and it's like Tom Cruise or I
can't remember Tom Cruise on it. But the point being,
I would not be surprised if there isn't like a
you know, Tom Cruise working with the CIA type stuff.
Speaker 1: Gemini is asking whether you ever get threts on your
life of speaking out.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think everybody who gets to a certain
level of like you know, of you're over one hundred
thousand on YouTube or something, You're you're gonna eventually start
getting people saying crazy stuff and you know, threatening you.
And so I've had some like comments that you know
will comeque you or something like that, but nothing's ever happened.
I mean, I live in two in two states where
you can always have a gun very easily, and I
always do have a gun, so I'm not too worried
about that. But no, I mean the type of research
that I do usually just deals with stuff that's already
in the public domain. So I don't ever have like,
you know, I'm gonna drop the secret information that's gonna,
you know, bring down Bill Clinton in two weeks, which
that's like the best way to like, I mean, they're
gonna kill you in the next two weeks. Is really stupid.
So now I don't ever work with anything that's not
you know, in the public domain. So not really.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Hollywood side will get knocked down
like the Berlin Wall?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe if they if if California and Los Angeles
continue with their socialist policies, they won't even have to
knock it down. Everything will just degrade and it'll fall
down because I mean, it wasn't as bad as I
expected it to be. But we were in LA maybe
eight months ago, and I mean it's it's looking rough.
I mean, there's still some nice areas. But I just
think that when your city's turn super blue socialists and
they're run by these just insane Democrat leaders. I'm not
saying the GP is that much better, but the Democrats
just seem to be really good at like wrecking stuff.
So I wouldn't give LA much longer before it just collapses,
maybe years.
Speaker 1: Is this the end of MK Ultra and deep state control.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's the end. I think they're
gonna definitely pull every trick out of the hat that
they can. I mean, I don't know how this drone
stuff relates to it, but I sense that this is
the next thing. I don't know where it's going, but
I think that that that's another trick they're going to pull.
They might put trouble another PA in demic. No, they're
not going away M CULTU. It never ended. Even when
they had the hearings. They just renamed it MK Search
and MK Delta and they went into other areas, so
those became research into brain chips and biometrics and biological warfare.
So all they had to do was rename it and
classify it as national security.
Speaker 1: So no, it's never going away, Georgina. What does Jay
think is the solution? How do we radically overhaul this
endemic perversion?
Speaker 2: I do think that the information continuing to get out
is damaging them. I mean, even when I first came
on your podcast a few years ago, Sean like, I
wouldn't have expected things to go where they have gone.
So a lot of positives have been happening. And we
were talking four or five years ago, like we got
to get the word out this kind of stuff, and
even I was kind of skeptical whether we would actually
be able to get the word out. But it does
seem like, you know, whatever you think of Elin and Twitter, like,
it does seem like a lot of good information is
getting out. It's not perfect, it's not everything that we'd
like to see getting out, but it's you know, Twitter
is become the main hub of where people get information
out now in terms of the news format, not so
much video video, still YouTube, But I think there's positives
and I think that as long as we keep pushing
the stuff out like people are figuring it out. Maybe
not quick enough as we'd like, But do you agree?
What do you think you've seen? I mean your channels
only you're almost got a million now. Man, it's great.
Speaker 1: See AJ, I see AJ getting up to ten million
in these lives on X. I've never seen anyone get
that million be alive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We had a fourth Hour about a month ago
that I did the Fourth Hour and that I was.
That was hot. I was happy because that was the
stream where Alex got thirty two million. So my fourth
hour about thirty two million on that stream. So yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Guys have got me set in Well Records over the.
Speaker 2: Well more so Alex. It's not me, but yeah, Alex is.
Speaker 1: Do you think Amba is involved in this craziness? It
feels like is.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My tendency. I don't have any proof, but my
tendency is I think that a lot of the girls
in pop music in Hollywood, they're they're kind of shuffled
over into the witchcraft path, right, So the guys are,
I guess they're they're put into crowley butt rituals and
then girls are shuffled over into witchcraft and that's not
far fetch I mean, we've seen a lot of high
level Hollywood women and music industry women talk about being
into witchcraft. In fact, some years back, Katy Perry talked
about being inducted into witchcraft, maybe five years ago. She
did a whole Instagram post about it. I would not
be surprised if Amber Heard wasn't introduced into some circles
of Wiccan witchcraft through Hollywood and the elite of Hollywood,
the women elite. And what's her name Hermione from Harry Potter?
I forget her name, Emma Watson's internew you know what
I'm say talking about Hermione from Harry Potter. She's a
famous British actress. Read her named Emma, Emma whatever, Emma Watson.
She was also inducted into witchcraft according to her public
Instagram posts, maybe two years ago. So I think that's
what's going on with a lot of Hollywood women. I
wouldn't be surprised if Ember HER's not a witch.
Speaker 1: Gene is asking, does J believe socker viewers and people
in stadiums can get MK altered? Doesn't this go back
to ancient Rome? Will give them games to watch and hypnotize.
Speaker 2: They're probably talking about. Yeah, like when we see the
sportscasters and they like glitch out or whatever, I don't
know what that is. I mean a lot of people
in media and entertainment take pills, and so they could
be like, you know, pilled out. I don't know, but
I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, we don't know what
kind of signals and he ll FVLFT they're using. They
do have. Even in the nineteen seventies, Brazenski wrote in
his book Between Two Ages that VLF signals can be
used to agitate large masses of people, including entire nations
and content. So maybe, but I think more so rather
than the really sensationalist stuff just bred and circuses itself
is kind of distraction in my control.
Speaker 1: What's Hollywood designed with the idea in mind to team
up with politicians and the government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's why some of the first stuff
that was recorded on cameras was propaganda. And so I
mean I don't mean the first actual videos of the
train or the man running or whatever, the most famous
first foot, but like when it became a technology, you
had Germany immediately leaped on it, you had the US
immediately leaped on it immediately. In Russia you had people
doing propaganda, so the military especially immediately saw the propaganda
effects of film and they jumped on it right away.
So absolutely a few.
Speaker 1: People in that chat asking in your studies of the occult, etc.
If you ever come across the use tunnels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in one sense I can think of
so the hell Fire Club, they would famously meet in
areas of London underground, and they felt like, I'm guessing
that for one, it was just a way to be secret,
but perhaps there was also an association with the underworld
being in tunnels and so forth. The Martin Preschool case
when they fbid classified that they admitted that there were
tunnels underneath the preschool, So that lends credence to the
theory of Ted Gunderson. So yeah, there could be in
a cult connection, there could be a human trafficking connection.
And you can look up old Rank Corporation papers where
they did talk about in the nineteen sixties or seventies
how to build vast underground tunnel networks in the US.
Whether they actually did that on a large scale and where,
I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: All right, So we got Is there a hierarchy a
black magic in Hollywood?
Speaker 2: Probably, I don't know who the top of it would be,
but there are many famous producers and directors that do
talk about being in the into Kabbala very heavily. They
do talk about being into ritual magic. They make movies
about it, just a couple examples. I don't know. Again,
I don't know if these people are at the top.
But Darren Aronofsky, many of his movies are about Kabbala,
so I would imagine he's into Kabbala. Very famous director,
made a lot of really big films. James Franco re
enacted an entire Crawley ritual about five or six years ago,
so he's probably interested in that to some degree or
part of it. If you read a book like Blood
on the Altar, Hean Bickner goes through a lot of
Hollywood people who were involved in the OTO back in
the day. So yeah, I don't know who's running it.
I don't know who the queen witch is, but probably
maybe Madonna. Madonna's like, you know, a long time high
level cobbylist. She's probably a high level witch.
Speaker 1: Jay. Honestly, man, you got all these questions thrown up
yet and you got answers for You've done so much research,
do you like know something about every subject that's been
raised every time? It's incredible, So I really appreciate you
sharing your knowledge of us. Is anything you'd like to
saying conclusions to the viewers before Big Homie comes home? Now?
Speaker 2: Thanks again for having me, Sean. It's always great coming on.
I love it. You do a great show. If you're
interested in these topics specifically like we've been talking about today,
I have two books that cover the subject. If you're
looking for a weird, wacky Christmas present for your friends
and family if they like this rabbit hole, I've got
Estadar Hollywood one and two. And you can get signed
copies at my website. If you buy from Jeff Bezos,
you don't get a signed copy. If you get it
from a website Jason Alysons dot com. In the shop,
every copy is signed and so I will personalize it
for you and it makes for a great, fun, wacky
Christmas present. Thank you so much, Sean.
Speaker 1: The one you senterrate them in your distinct voice, Jay,
do what they want you to narrate those books in
your very distinct voice.
Speaker 2: Oh like an audiover I've never done. Yeah, maybe I should.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get on it.
Speaker 2: For something weird like that.
Speaker 1: All right, cheers, I'll close the show.
Speaker 2: I'll let you go, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Thanks man, cheers, Thanks bye, allright bye. What a
fantastic guy. He's been a friend of the channel for years.
Big Homie is. Now that the show has started, I'm
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