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<v Speaker 1>This is Sham and I with the Mets and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Bapflicks and Nerds.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to Backlifts and Nerds, the Baseball Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>with the British Twist. I'm your host this week, John

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<v Speaker 2>McGhee and joining me. Well, we've got a quartet this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making my long awaited return from the injury injury

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<v Speaker 2>injury list after a you know, a niggling half strain

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<v Speaker 2>perennial for me. But I've got three more people who

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<v Speaker 2>know far more about baseball than I do, which is

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<v Speaker 2>which is arguably a good thing. Well, actually four more

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<v Speaker 2>because I've got the cat here as well. She won't

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<v Speaker 2>go away today. First up, we've got the computer brain

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<v Speaker 2>man himself, mister Russell Lisa.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing good, John, I'm doing it excellent in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>Throw it all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll definitely talk about Cleveland a bit more throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the course.

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<v Speaker 3>Of this of this chat.

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<v Speaker 2>And also Bournemouth Arena's very own general manager, mister Rob Navera,

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<v Speaker 2>are you hey up?

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<v Speaker 1>How are we doing? I'm good as far away from

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<v Speaker 1>Bournemouth as I could get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Rubb's been threatening to get the tech guys from from

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<v Speaker 2>his work, which which is born with Arena into professionalize

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<v Speaker 2>his setup because this is very much a Jerry built enterprise.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we all need to get them.

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<v Speaker 2>To pop round and last up performing his very own

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<v Speaker 2>version of the Flu Game. It's Ben Carter but a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit under the weather, but breaking it out and

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<v Speaker 2>on the left.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it would be the Flu Game if Michael Jordan had,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a slightly poorly Tommy or something not quite

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<v Speaker 5>as impressive as his feats. But I'm going to fight three.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to talk baseball. It's been a while, so

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<v Speaker 5>excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Great stuff, And have you got anything to say, Kat

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<v Speaker 2>or are you just going to keep mussel in this microphone?

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<v Speaker 2>There we go, got a little bell that was nice. Great,

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got quite a lot to get through. Our

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<v Speaker 2>last podcast was just after the trade deadline, so quite

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<v Speaker 2>a lot's happened since then. Some teams have been in

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<v Speaker 2>the ascendancy, Some who people fancied a little bit to

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<v Speaker 2>improve after the trade deadline cough, the Boston Red Sox

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<v Speaker 2>have actually got infinitely worse. So alongside Russell's team, I've

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<v Speaker 2>also got my tiny violin out. But let's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>chump through it all. But there's been the Backflips and

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<v Speaker 2>Nerds podcast. There are a couple of topics that we

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<v Speaker 2>like to dwell on for an inordinate amount of time,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first of those is the announcement of the

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<v Speaker 2>pool that Great Britain Baseball is going to play in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>World Baseball Classic. Bit previous of us to be talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this already.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good eighteen months away, and who knows who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in the teams or who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the teams that they're playing against. But Russell,

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<v Speaker 2>you're our World Baseball Classic correspondent, and GB's got quite

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<v Speaker 2>tough for all this time through you haven't they?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I think obviously we're having to face the US in

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<v Speaker 7>the group stages once again. Is never going to be

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<v Speaker 7>like an easy draw, thinking how they're going to try

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<v Speaker 7>to like fight their way out of it. Obviously, now

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<v Speaker 7>they're not the qualifier going into this group, so there

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<v Speaker 7>is a qualifier who's going to get there. There's a

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<v Speaker 7>couple of teams that got kind of dropped out last

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<v Speaker 7>time which probably will come back with immediate force, and

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<v Speaker 7>so that qualifier might not actually be that week of

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<v Speaker 7>a team, but we know that they can win a game.

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<v Speaker 7>I still think that that group there is obviously you've

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<v Speaker 7>got another European team in there, which makes it like

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<v Speaker 7>not to besmirch European baseball compared to American and an

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<v Speaker 7>Asian baseball. But you've got to be wanting to win

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<v Speaker 7>that game. As a minimum you get to two, maybe

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<v Speaker 7>in Houston before for a trip to Miami. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think that's the other side. It's in Houston now for

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<v Speaker 7>it to be in Tokyo, so we could kind of

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<v Speaker 7>go to Tokyo and watch TV play baseball. It's not

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<v Speaker 7>good from the holiday perspective, probably is better from who's

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<v Speaker 7>actually going to make that team perspective, because it's a

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<v Speaker 7>lot easier for the MLB teams to give up their

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<v Speaker 7>players and have them still be like in the US

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<v Speaker 7>than it is to have them fly the other way

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<v Speaker 7>around the world and kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of sort it out.

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<v Speaker 7>So hopefully, Yeah, And as John threw an article out today,

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<v Speaker 7>he's got an idea on who might might be playing

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<v Speaker 7>for that team. So I think we've got to go

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<v Speaker 7>in there wanting to get out of that group stage.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's doable. It's going to be hard, but as.

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball absolutely we'll talk a little bit about what the

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<v Speaker 2>team might look like in a second. But it's interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it that you possibly got the four most American

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<v Speaker 7>There.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got Italy, which is just anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Who can say by the being out loud, You've got Britain,

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<v Speaker 2>which is well, you know it's the commonwe isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>really Mexico which you know, there's a pretty close link

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<v Speaker 2>between Mexico and the USA, a huge border.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course GM.

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<v Speaker 2>Played Mexico last time through as well, right, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was before and they lost, and that's before Jared Duran

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<v Speaker 2>was good. So you know, it's a slightly worrying ominous

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see who the qualifiers. But you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>you alluded to, Russell, I, I wrote a piece today.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a big, a big day for me.

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<v Speaker 2>First time I've written anything for about a year, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm back on the podcast for the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>six weeks or so. And you know, on paper, the

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<v Speaker 2>GB team could be really, really good. I mean, on

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<v Speaker 2>paper and on the field is an entirely different thing

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<v Speaker 2>as we saw in twenty twenty three. If every single

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<v Speaker 2>available player had been available in twenty twenty three, it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been even better than it was. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are a few players who weren't there then who would

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<v Speaker 2>make it better, and a couple more who've taken great

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<v Speaker 2>steps forward in you know, Gabriel Ranconez and Matthew Coperniac

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<v Speaker 2>and Michael Peterson of course big league of Michael Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think there's there's a reason to be

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<v Speaker 2>to be confident guys, isn't there Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would say the fact that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>two years before the Olympics as well, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys there who are saying, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>available to play because a lot of these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to play in the Olympics. Who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to play in the Olympics. That is, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a big goal. Even if even if you are paying

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<v Speaker 1>a half a British toe. If that's the day fight, great, fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>But like that, that is going to be an attraction.

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<v Speaker 1>That is going to be a point where by guys

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<v Speaker 1>want to play those games. So I think that really

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<v Speaker 1>could bode well for teams who are relying on expats

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<v Speaker 1>and relatives to get them into the games. That could

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<v Speaker 1>both work quite well.

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<v Speaker 3>For us and and Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, any team that's got a starting pitching availability potentially

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<v Speaker 2>of Tristan McKenzie, Thanks Russell, I forgot that one, Jack

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<v Speaker 2>like and Kumar Roka, and then a bullpen that could

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<v Speaker 2>include any or all of our oldest Chapman, bark lighter

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<v Speaker 2>not far off being a big league staff, that is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Really No, I'll concede.

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<v Speaker 5>I do not follow the international scene or the eligible

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<v Speaker 5>players as close to yourself from not to do some

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<v Speaker 5>I was reading for your article, I was I was

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<v Speaker 5>somewhat surprised at the caliber of players that we potentially

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<v Speaker 5>will have available. I mean, this is a serious list

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<v Speaker 5>of big names, and perhaps most excitingly, a serious list

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<v Speaker 5>of big names that are mostly young and only improving. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>it's going to be a tough job for Drew and

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<v Speaker 5>Coe to recruit all of these names to be part

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<v Speaker 5>of the team, and I think we have to concede

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<v Speaker 5>there'll be some who will be unavailable for for all

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<v Speaker 5>sorts of reasons. And obviously we are still talking eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>months ahead of when this tournament will be and that's

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<v Speaker 5>a long time in baseball. But I think the future

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<v Speaker 5>looks really promising. You know, some of the guys that

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<v Speaker 5>you've outlined here who are even the higher miners or

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<v Speaker 5>just joining the majors, that are considered seriously top prospects,

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<v Speaker 5>who will hopefully form the core not just of their

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<v Speaker 5>respective major league teams for years to come, but hopefully

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<v Speaker 5>the sort of core of this next generation of GB

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<v Speaker 5>teams as well. And yeah, that rotation, like you say,

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<v Speaker 5>lighter Rocker too, absolute superstars from the college level who

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<v Speaker 5>are starting to get their feet where, you know, at

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<v Speaker 5>the major lever on the upper miners. Tristan McKenzie, who's

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<v Speaker 5>been great for the Guardians for a number of years now,

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<v Speaker 5>that's a serious one two three punch that could compete

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully with the best of them. So yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>that their expectations are high with how well GB played

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<v Speaker 5>last time round. But as Russell says that they should

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<v Speaker 5>be right, we should be expecting them to perform well.

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<v Speaker 6>And I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's no longer just nice to be there, but actually

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<v Speaker 5>we want to win. We want to beat some people.

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<v Speaker 5>We want to kind of cause a bit of a scene.

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<v Speaker 5>So no, it's a long way away, but I'm excited already.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm sure there's one or two more up

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<v Speaker 2>the sleeve of coach Spencer and is Lee, tenants John

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<v Speaker 2>Cramer and Connor Brooks and Brad Marcelino as well. Us

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<v Speaker 2>Drew keeps his cards close to his close his vest.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he would say, we would say close to

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<v Speaker 2>close to our chest, because.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the correct way of doing it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, definitely, there's going to be somebody who has Caribbean

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<v Speaker 7>heritage that we are not aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>Ormok Trout.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how you've picked potentially the most American looking

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<v Speaker 2>man of all time. I mean, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Trout in Americans, you know, maybe maybe some Barrick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay, so that's gb.

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball World Baseball Classic. Go and have a quick look

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<v Speaker 2>at my article. There's going to be quite a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of coverage of the World Baseball Classic. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 2>that Gavin the team will be churning out a view

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<v Speaker 2>of who they might be playing, who might be in

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<v Speaker 2>those Italy, Mexico, USA, and inde qualifier squads over the

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<v Speaker 2>course of the next eighteen months, and I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity to speak to Drew and his staff

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<v Speaker 2>between now and then on the podcast too. So from

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of exciting and sublime to a rather I

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<v Speaker 2>think melancholy note right now, but hopefully we can have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of fun with this too, the retirement

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<v Speaker 2>of i'd say collectively our favorite player on this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and many many people's favorite player in baseball, Joey Votto,

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<v Speaker 2>who decided last week, in true Joey Votto style, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Having spent this.

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<v Speaker 2>Year with the Blue Jays organization and all of his

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<v Speaker 2>team before he retired, and unfortunately there was no room

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<v Speaker 2>for him in a triple A lineup, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a shame. Really, it would have been a

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<v Speaker 2>really nice way to give him a swan song. But

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't the way that baseball goes. It isn't the

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<v Speaker 2>way professional sports goes. Not everyone gets the happy ending

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<v Speaker 2>that they want. But yeah, sad to see Votto go ben,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it because he's been a source of inspiration for

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I can't think of many players who are as

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<v Speaker 5>widely beloved as as Joey Votto is and has been

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<v Speaker 5>for as long as you be doing his podcast, and

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<v Speaker 5>for even longer than that. He's been always a joy

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<v Speaker 5>to watch on the field, a joy to listen to

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<v Speaker 5>off the field. I know we've all on this pod

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<v Speaker 5>exchanged great stories about the various articles about his endeavors,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it be mopping around his house or all the

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<v Speaker 5>other things that he tends to do off the field

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of endear him to us even more so.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a sad day, and, like you say, sad

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<v Speaker 5>that we didn't kind of get that fairy.

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<v Speaker 6>Tale ending from him.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we all probably saw the writing on the

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<v Speaker 5>wall a while back, but anytime that a legend of

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<v Speaker 5>the game, besides hanging up their spikes.

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<v Speaker 6>Is a sad moment, but then I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 6>what he does next.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he could have a fantastic career in a

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<v Speaker 5>broadcast booth or as an analyst. I hope he stays

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<v Speaker 5>in and around the game of baseball. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if coaching is something he'd be interested in. I can

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<v Speaker 5>imagine him being very, very good at that. But this

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<v Speaker 5>is someone who just thinks so cerebrally, if that's even

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<v Speaker 5>a word, about the game of baseball. He's such a

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<v Speaker 5>smart hitter. He thinks about the game and ways that

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<v Speaker 5>others don't. He can talk about the game and express

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<v Speaker 5>himself in ways others can't, So I do hope you

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<v Speaker 5>get the chance to explore that further with him now.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's no longer hit it and just hear what, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>what he has to say from his mind about the sport,

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<v Speaker 5>about the way he used to think about the game,

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<v Speaker 5>about yeah, what it means to be a hitter. That

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<v Speaker 5>was as good as he was for as long as

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<v Speaker 5>he was. So Bittersweet's sad that he's gone, but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>excited to see what's what's next to Joey. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>of course Russell Now that he has retired, we return

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<v Speaker 5>to the eternal and indeed most boring question in all

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<v Speaker 5>of baseball? Is he all of famer? And as aristatsman

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<v Speaker 5>here you have to tell us whether or not he is.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we would all say for sure, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think he's If you would go old school,

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<v Speaker 7>he might be an edge candidate. I think whither basically

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<v Speaker 7>the electorate of the BBWA who will vote him in.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't really see any chance that he's not getting it.

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<v Speaker 7>He might not be a first time ballot person if

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<v Speaker 7>people still start to do that sort of thing where

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<v Speaker 7>they want to just kind of do first ballots for

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<v Speaker 7>just the top people. But he'll make it in, like

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<v Speaker 7>he I think just also his relationship with the media

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<v Speaker 7>will help that. Like he's not made enemies. I think

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<v Speaker 7>joy Voro has I think understood the entertainment value of

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<v Speaker 7>baseball better than most of the players in the last

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<v Speaker 7>twenty years. He plays like the face to the home

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<v Speaker 7>crowd and the heel to like the away fans.

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<v Speaker 4>He knew exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>How to like pull those strings of how the crowd

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<v Speaker 7>is feeling and get them like to love him and

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<v Speaker 7>hate him like in equal measures. And it's just not

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<v Speaker 7>seen much. I think in baseball nowadays, it's one of

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<v Speaker 7>those things that, yes, I am a statch person. I

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<v Speaker 7>love thet side of like baseball, but if the game

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<v Speaker 7>itself still has to entertain you, and so you want

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<v Speaker 7>the people that can do that. I think first baseman

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<v Speaker 7>the players that they're because everybody comes through first who

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<v Speaker 7>makes it on base I think Vodo was a beautiful

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<v Speaker 7>wind up merchant to kind of pull that through. But

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<v Speaker 7>from a statistical point of view, his numbers are pretty outstanding.

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<v Speaker 7>His numbers are like in the runners and scoring position

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<v Speaker 7>is just ludicrous. He has stuff that is like that's

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<v Speaker 7>if you want to talk about up somebody being clutch,

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<v Speaker 7>and you can maybe over about a sixteen year season

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<v Speaker 7>talk about somebody actually being clutch, that's probably just about

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<v Speaker 7>enough time to do it. Vardo was clutch like in

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<v Speaker 7>those big moments, he did what mattered, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I think I would love to see more of him,

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<v Speaker 7>as I think, as Ben said, I listened to some

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<v Speaker 7>Cincinnati Red broadscasts, but towards the end of last year

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<v Speaker 7>when he was injured, because he was on those broadcasts

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<v Speaker 7>for an inning or two, and how he talked about

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<v Speaker 7>the game just opens up your mind to kind of

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<v Speaker 7>what's actually going on. They just having those people who

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<v Speaker 7>are so recently within the game gives you like a

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<v Speaker 7>clear idea. He had one inning where he was talking

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<v Speaker 7>about like the shift and having it removed and how

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<v Speaker 7>that like changed his mind about how he was hitting.

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<v Speaker 7>And you just don't hear that from players who are active.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I think, yes, I think he should be

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<v Speaker 7>a whole time. He should be a Hall of Fame balla.

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<v Speaker 7>But I would put him first time, but then I

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<v Speaker 7>don't have a vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so the question that I have for all

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<v Speaker 2>of you, and I'm going to come to you first

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<v Speaker 2>job unfortunately, because you're just You're the next person I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask a question, is now that Joey Votto

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<v Speaker 2>is is no longer within the great pantheon of Major

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<v Speaker 2>League Baseball? Where where do we turn our collective affections?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's going to fill that giant, gaping hole of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is Russell so eloquently put it, the guy who is

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<v Speaker 2>the face to the home crowd and the heel to

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<v Speaker 2>the away crowd, but is having a huge fun and

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<v Speaker 2>has their tongue firmly planted in their cheap Do you

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<v Speaker 2>do you have it? Do you do you have anyone

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<v Speaker 2>that brings to mind? Rob and the other guys get

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<v Speaker 3>You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't have anybody who's bought Zach Cozart

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<v Speaker 1>a donkey. That's kind of unique. That kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't doesn't translate. But I mean, and if you come

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<v Speaker 1>to beloved guys, I mean, Adrian Beltray is a really

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<v Speaker 1>good comp to Joey Votto in the kind of way

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<v Speaker 1>he played and the kind of the kind of player

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<v Speaker 1>he was. I think it's going to be short lived,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've got cut at the moment. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of beloved character. Beyond that, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>may be starting to look at like end of season Altuve.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's got potential.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just picking.

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<v Speaker 2>People our age, Rob, Adrian Beltroy, Joey Votto.

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<v Speaker 3>These is the old people.

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<v Speaker 4>Ben.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I need to ask you first.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm actually I'm going to go all person start.

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<v Speaker 5>I had to google it because I wasn't sure if

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<v Speaker 5>he already had retired, But I'd always considered Zach Grinky

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<v Speaker 5>the pitching equivalent of Joey Votto in that like total quirkiness, that.

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<v Speaker 6>Leaning into doing things differently. He isn't quite as personable

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, I think I've struggle to get ten minutes

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<v Speaker 5>of conversation out of Zach Grinky, whereas me and Votto

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<v Speaker 5>could sink several points and chat till the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the night. I have no issues, no problems thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I do think Grinky is in that kind of

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<v Speaker 5>area of like widely beloved.

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<v Speaker 6>Towards the end of his career, everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>Sees him as yeah, as someone who we adore and

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<v Speaker 5>likes to listnit you talk about the game of baseball.

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<v Speaker 6>But then yeah, he basically is retires. Maybe he's not

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're going to say, Kristan Cassas, I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of slightly agree with it, but I'm going to let

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<v Speaker 5>you speak about why he might be the right heir apparent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I was. He obviously sprung to mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, he is a lefty first baseman

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<v Speaker 2>who has got an incredible eye for the zone. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the comparisons start there, but they don't end

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<v Speaker 2>there because justan Cassas is just weird. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys have followed, you know, Casas has been

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<v Speaker 2>injured for three months and he's come back from the

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<v Speaker 2>injured list and is hitting the snot out of the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and has an OBP over four hundred and when

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<v Speaker 2>asked how and why this was the case, because usually

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<v Speaker 2>there's some adjustment period for normal baseball players, he replied, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been taking loads of swings. And they said, well, how,

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<v Speaker 2>because you've had a rib injury and taking loads of

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<v Speaker 3>He said, I've just been taking.

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<v Speaker 2>Them in my head, which is exactly the type of

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<v Speaker 2>thing that Joey Votto would say. Also, you know, last

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday he was driving the Red Sox some some portion

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<v Speaker 2>of Red Sox nation fandom wild by doing yoga on

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<v Speaker 2>the field, wearing a supreme balaclava and a pair of

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<v Speaker 2>sunglasses and not like and a pair of yellow shorts.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a He is an absolute one off. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he for me is a is a clear analogue.

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<v Speaker 2>But also that's a bit of a homer pick for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had another one before I let Russell take the counch. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know this might be again because I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>thinking Votto and I'm thinking Reds. I'm thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we don't have so much of him speaking English

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not his first language. But someone who is

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<v Speaker 2>a complete maverick, and you just have no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>Ellie Dela Cruz, I just have so much time for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just he's just having fun all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, you know, it's sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, and he looks like a pirate.

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<v Speaker 2>And he looks like a pirate to you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>being a baseball podcast, what do you do when you

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<v Speaker 2>lose Botto?

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<v Speaker 3>You create him an aggregat.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you've got Ellie Dela Cruz, you got Tristan

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<v Speaker 2>Cassas with the on base production.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know you Russell, what do you what do

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<v Speaker 3>you reckon?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm really trying to think who is like beloved by

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<v Speaker 7>their own franchise and kind of maligned by by the others.

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<v Speaker 7>I think a great pick Rock, yeah, but I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think how too they like buys into the malign this.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't.

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<v Speaker 7>I think some of the other astro players have like

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<v Speaker 7>like just a good shout.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, I don't think anyone likes him, even Astroy.

426
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm I still think you say like you're making

427
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<v Speaker 7>up in the aggregat. I think parts of like someone

428
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<v Speaker 7>like Jazz, I think really work kind of like well

429
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<v Speaker 7>here as well. So like I think if Jazz staying

430
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<v Speaker 7>in New York and can actually do like do well

431
00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:54.960
<v Speaker 7>in New York, I think he really become one of

432
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<v Speaker 7>those players that like New York fans love and then

433
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<v Speaker 7>everybody else hates because se already players kind of seemingly

434
00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.279
<v Speaker 7>already think the Jazz is overrated because he got put

435
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<v Speaker 7>on the cover of It or Be the Show. And

436
00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:09.480
<v Speaker 7>according to one of those articles by The Athletic where

437
00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:11.960
<v Speaker 7>they ask players about these sort of things, they still

438
00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.079
<v Speaker 7>seem to care about that two or three years later,

439
00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.880
<v Speaker 7>So you could have that. I was I was thinking

440
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<v Speaker 7>of mentioning Ellie as well, because I think you just

441
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<v Speaker 7>want you need the person to be slightly different of

442
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<v Speaker 7>a bit we just don't quite have like the community

443
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<v Speaker 7>of kind of aside from that, so the same way

444
00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:29.920
<v Speaker 7>like people that it could have been, there was like

445
00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.400
<v Speaker 7>Tim Anderson or something like that that could really kind

446
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<v Speaker 7>of could have done that but kind of like flopped

447
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<v Speaker 7>out of the papers.

448
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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, there is a there is a gap. There

449
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<v Speaker 4>is a niche.

450
00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:42.079
<v Speaker 7>Waiting to be filled by somebody who is zany enough

451
00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:45.599
<v Speaker 7>but also very good because I feel that the last

452
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<v Speaker 7>maybe five ten years of the z any players, they've

453
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<v Speaker 7>kind of not really approved actually to be that great

454
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<v Speaker 7>in the long run.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Heat Fairbanks is giving it a go to be fair again.

456
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<v Speaker 1>He's been quite fun.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Heat Fairbanks is definitely in your building bottle in the

458
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<v Speaker 2>aggregate for sure, and he's very much giving me very

459
00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:08.039
<v Speaker 2>weird but really engaging interviews side of things. I love

460
00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.440
<v Speaker 2>pet Fairbug because every time there's a clip of fit Fairbugs,

461
00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I'm just going to stop and watching this.

462
00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I just know that this is going to be completely

463
00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:18.480
<v Speaker 2>bizarre and totally off the wall.

464
00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:22.079
<v Speaker 3>I love him great. That's a great conversation.

465
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<v Speaker 2>I think that absolutely the right way to celebrate Joey

466
00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Votto is is to think about, you know, his impact

467
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<v Speaker 2>on the game, not just as a as a player,

468
00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:36.319
<v Speaker 2>but as a personality, and to think about who's going

469
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<v Speaker 2>to fill.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Those enormous shoes.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Great, So we thought we'd talk a little bit about

472
00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:44.319
<v Speaker 2>if it's been a weird, old quirky week in baseball.

473
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<v Speaker 2>This week hasn't it, And it would be remiss of

474
00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:53.200
<v Speaker 2>us not to mark absolute baseball history that's happened this week,

475
00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:57.839
<v Speaker 2>which is that the Danny Jansen game. He wants to

476
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<v Speaker 2>explain what the Danny Jansen got Russell Again, that feels

477
00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.839
<v Speaker 2>like you know something that you're up to the task

478
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<v Speaker 2>of why is there such a thing as the Danny

479
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<v Speaker 2>Jansen game?

480
00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:08.359
<v Speaker 3>What is it?

481
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<v Speaker 7>Well, due to the wonders of baseball, we sometimes get

482
00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.440
<v Speaker 7>a game starting on one day and finishing on another day.

483
00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:18.279
<v Speaker 7>Because it's an outdoor sport. Because we play it in

484
00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:21.759
<v Speaker 7>places which it's not San Diego, where it's basically sunny

485
00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:24.359
<v Speaker 7>for the entire year, you get these things called rainouts

486
00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.839
<v Speaker 7>or snow outs. And so Danny Jansen playing in a

487
00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:30.839
<v Speaker 7>game for the Toronto Blue Jays against the Red Sox

488
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:34.000
<v Speaker 7>and a game gets rained out, perfectly normal thing that

489
00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:36.359
<v Speaker 7>happens in baseball. But then he gets traded. But he

490
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:39.359
<v Speaker 7>gets traded to the Red Sox. And now everybody, and

491
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<v Speaker 7>I mean everybody, when that trade happened, everybody was like, oh,

492
00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:46.599
<v Speaker 7>they've got the makeup game. Danny Johnson could could play

493
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<v Speaker 7>in this game, and so that was reported. When he

494
00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.359
<v Speaker 7>was traded, it was reported again probably about two weeks

495
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:55.960
<v Speaker 7>before the game happened. It was reported again probably about

496
00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.440
<v Speaker 7>a week before the game happened. It was reported probably

497
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<v Speaker 7>every single day until the game happened, and then on

498
00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:04.640
<v Speaker 7>the day he was then pinch hit for for another player.

499
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<v Speaker 2>By the he was at bad he was not only

500
00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:12.680
<v Speaker 2>playing in the game, he was due to like be

501
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.720
<v Speaker 2>the next hitter up. So the first announcement in like

502
00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.839
<v Speaker 2>literally the board said next to bat and it was

503
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Danny Janssen with a Blue Jays hat, and I love

504
00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they put that up. And then it

505
00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:25.359
<v Speaker 2>was announced that he was going to be pinch hit

506
00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:26.799
<v Speaker 2>for amazing.

507
00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 7>Yep, and then obviously comes in as as a Red

508
00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:32.839
<v Speaker 7>Sox and to do something which I think, to my surprise,

509
00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:36.079
<v Speaker 7>was the first time it's ever happened. I was genuinely

510
00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.359
<v Speaker 7>surprised when they talked about it about a month ago

511
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.440
<v Speaker 7>that this was the first time that has happened. And

512
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<v Speaker 7>I'm now you may have guessed from the last thirty

513
00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:46.000
<v Speaker 7>seconds of how to speak, frankly, I'm bored with this

514
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:52.480
<v Speaker 7>utterly over reported for one really random, niche baseball thing.

515
00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:57.119
<v Speaker 7>It's been like everybody loves it, and I'm like, okay, cool, yeah,

516
00:23:57.240 --> 00:23:59.920
<v Speaker 7>move on, Like why is this the one random based

517
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.000
<v Speaker 7>start that seems to have got national coverage for a month?

518
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Kind he's been a grump, isn't it.

519
00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>He's been a grumb Absolutely being a grump. I think

520
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the one thing we're missing, though, is that that we wanted.

521
00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:15.079
<v Speaker 1>We wanted some sort of Danny Janssen put out for

522
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Danny Jansen. That's the that's the thing I was missing.

523
00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>It was, you know, like I wanted to drop third

524
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:24.279
<v Speaker 1>strike and then Danny Jansen to throw out the pinch

525
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>runner for Danny Janssen at first, and then I wanted

526
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:32.279
<v Speaker 1>to see baseball, you know reference meltdown and not work anymore.

527
00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:35.759
<v Speaker 1>That that's what I wanted. That's what it's fun. He's yeah,

528
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>let's have our moment in the sun. This is this

529
00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>is a fun like we are we are a community

530
00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:43.279
<v Speaker 1>of statistical geeks. Even those of us who are enough

531
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:45.440
<v Speaker 1>on the statistical geek end of the scale, we are

532
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>still statistical geeks. And and yeah we like this, of

533
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:50.599
<v Speaker 1>course we like this. Get out, get out, Russell go.

534
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:54.440
<v Speaker 3>On, Russell's a misery burn, isn't he?

535
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:56.960
<v Speaker 6>In his defense, it doesn't seem like Danny Jansen was

536
00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:58.440
<v Speaker 6>picked excited about it himself.

537
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.480
<v Speaker 5>This this was big enough news to actually make BBC Sport,

538
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:03.319
<v Speaker 5>which is when you know something has gotten, you know,

539
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:06.279
<v Speaker 5>beyond the zeitgeist to baseball. And in it they quote

540
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:09.400
<v Speaker 5>Danny himself and the quote they give is, I'm just

541
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:11.400
<v Speaker 5>going to put my head down and play. I mean,

542
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.519
<v Speaker 5>wait telling into it, Danny. Wait to have some fun.

543
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:15.359
<v Speaker 5>It's just a game of baseball, isn't it. I'm just

544
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:16.000
<v Speaker 5>gonna play.

545
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:17.839
<v Speaker 6>You make a history out there, mate, have a bit

546
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:20.079
<v Speaker 6>of fun, smile away, enjoy yourself.

547
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

548
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Ultimately a half and half scarf, that's what I wanted

549
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:24.799
<v Speaker 1>to see.

550
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.599
<v Speaker 3>We're definitely not putting Danny Janssen.

551
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Tear off one uniform, throw it down and the other

552
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>uniform is underneath, and there goes a home run.

553
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

554
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>If this had been you know, Joey Votto or tell

555
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Tim Anderson right, this would have been been fun.

556
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeazz.

557
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe Danny Jansen wasn't the correct avatar for this,

558
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 2>but maybe if we're all like Russell, he was, because

559
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:49.720
<v Speaker 2>who gives a fuck.

560
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:53.319
<v Speaker 7>No, no, I want to preface I gave a fuck

561
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:54.319
<v Speaker 7>a month ago.

562
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:56.359
<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is really freaking cool.

563
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.799
<v Speaker 7>But when I see the same article about fifteen times

564
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:02.680
<v Speaker 7>in the space of like a month, it's no longer cool.

565
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:04.079
<v Speaker 4>It's just spam.

566
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, we shouldn't add to the spam except to say,

567
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, look, as a Red Sox fan, I'm just

568
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>glad that something fun happened for my team. I can

569
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>talk about something else fun that they did in a minute. Actually,

570
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.599
<v Speaker 2>But good grief, it's been pretty grim since the trade deadline.

571
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Lucas Simms and Lewis Garcia, both of whom the Red

572
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Sox traded for, are just before the deadline, both of

573
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:33.599
<v Speaker 2>whom had been very good for their respective bullpens in

574
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Anaheim and Cincinnati, respectively. They have a combined ERA of

575
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>over nine and are now both injured. So good times.

576
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>But that's not the team that's been had the worst

577
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 2>time since the trade deadline, Russell, is it. I know

578
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>we're going to come to your team and a bit,

579
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.559
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about something good and again. I know last

580
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:58.880
<v Speaker 2>time that maybe Russell, you're the right person to ask

581
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:02.200
<v Speaker 2>about this because the last time that this was getting reported,

582
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>it was boring, but it was mainly boring because of

583
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Ben's mate Roger Marris Junior. And that's Aaron Judge just

584
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>being ridiculously good on a level that is like, actually,

585
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe Aaron Judge might be the best baseball player of

586
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>our generation. Now, I mean, I don't know how do

587
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.079
<v Speaker 2>you attack it. I saw someone saying this morning that

588
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>if he's only got historical comparisons, that means he is

589
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>better than everyone discuss.

590
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think that you can talk about pretty much

591
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 7>Aaron Judge from May onwards and be like, the comparisons

592
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 7>are bonds, and then if you're ever basically being compared

593
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 7>to bonds, you're amazing. Like there's no there's no other

594
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.640
<v Speaker 7>way of describing it. Like before we get into the

595
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 7>fact that I'll talk about one caveat that's really annoyed me,

596
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 7>as everybody's been like, well, if you had a good April,

597
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 7>think of where he would be, Like he didn't.

598
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 4>Basically the whole reason why he is where he now

599
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 4>is because he didn't have a good April.

600
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 7>Maybe he wouldn't have changed his swing or his approach,

601
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 7>and then he would have like not had the improvement

602
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 7>that we've seen for another like three or four months.

603
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.200
<v Speaker 7>You can't pick and choose and basically just say over

604
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.319
<v Speaker 7>the last four months he's actually on a pace that

605
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 7>would have beaten Bonds. Yeah, because if you want to

606
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.599
<v Speaker 7>take a four month period for Bonds, he could have

607
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 7>had eighty five home runs in a season. So put

608
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 7>statistics in context. People stop talking out of your asses.

609
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:23.559
<v Speaker 7>But Judge has been phenomenal, and I think I think

610
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 7>having Soto and then having Stanton back means that they

611
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 7>can't even pitch around him in some regards, watch Cleveland

612
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 7>do it.

613
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why we pitched at him like some regards.

614
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 7>I just intentionally walk around and Judge every single time

615
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 7>and be done with it. Obviously, the numbers don't match

616
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 7>up for you to actually do that. But if there's nobody,

617
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.759
<v Speaker 7>if there's somebody on base and you've got some of

618
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 7>the some of that lineup that's been behind him for

619
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 7>the rest of the season, yeah now I'll pass.

620
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 4>And that's the level.

621
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 7>That's how good he's got that people should actually be

622
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 7>doing it now. I think people got in a little

623
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 7>bit of a huha when he hit his three hundredth

624
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:01.160
<v Speaker 7>home run and Soto was walked to bring him up,

625
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 7>and then he did that, and it's like, well, actually

626
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 7>that statistically made sense because Judge grounds into double plays

627
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 7>more than anybody else in all of baseball, So you

628
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 7>were free based doing that.

629
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't think.

630
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.920
<v Speaker 7>I don't know why everybody decided to lay into Grady

631
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.200
<v Speaker 7>size more as a new coach, doing something that I

632
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.279
<v Speaker 7>think probably seventy percent of the other managers in the

633
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 7>league would do so. But yeah, phenomenal stuff from Judge

634
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 7>will awesome to see hopefully what he does down the

635
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 7>back of this next kind of month that we have

636
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:30.559
<v Speaker 7>of the season, if he can push and break his

637
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.119
<v Speaker 7>record again. Obviously with the caveat that we don't want

638
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 7>to see Marrige Junior again cause.

639
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:37.960
<v Speaker 4>He'll come up, because he'll pop up.

640
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 7>There was just no way to get rid of him

641
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 7>last year, Like he was just one of those frigging

642
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.079
<v Speaker 7>like alien bursts just come out of somebody's chest to

643
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 7>kind of come out and say it's like there.

644
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Wrestle with the zeitgeisty reference there.

645
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.319
<v Speaker 4>I recently just watched Populus, so yes.

646
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Well I've watched all of the other films over the

647
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>course of the last week because my wife loves them,

648
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 2>and we wanted to watch them all again before we

649
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:08.279
<v Speaker 2>go and see Romulus. There we go, Ben, you were

650
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.920
<v Speaker 2>particularly vexed by Roger Morris Junior. And I think it

651
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 2>was maybe not the last I was on the pod,

652
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>but last long of the last few times. You and

653
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 2>I were having a conversation about, you know, when Zaron

654
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Judge going to get is wrong? Hes going to get

655
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 2>into props? Seemed like a ridiculous conversation. He's certainly been

656
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>getting it in space and rightly so recently.

657
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, since we had that discussion about it,

658
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 5>it almost seems like he's underrated. He's just gotten better,

659
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.279
<v Speaker 5>and I think probably the baseball world has caught up

660
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.039
<v Speaker 5>to the fact that he is above and beyond anything

661
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.240
<v Speaker 5>that Yeah, certainly that I've ever had a chance to

662
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 5>view in my lifetime as a baseball watching fan. Yeah,

663
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm running out of words to describe how good he's been.

664
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:47.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, his second percentage is seven thirty two. It's absurd.

665
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 5>We you know, we have not seen someone do this

666
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.440
<v Speaker 5>in yeah, since Bonds. It's it's crazy what what he's

667
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 5>been able to do. And as those signs of slowing down, Yeah,

668
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 5>hopefully he can, he can go on to beat his

669
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 5>own record from a couple of years ago. You know,

670
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.319
<v Speaker 5>I know Russell likes the poor cold water on the

671
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 5>what if you know thought train, but there is a

672
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 5>what if element here, Like we haven't seen anyone who

673
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 5>could even sniff onto his record in our lifetime, but

674
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 5>it kind of feels like he is the first player

675
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 5>where you can legitimately say the word seventy.

676
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 6>Three and not be laughed at.

677
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Right, I don't think he'll do it, just it's so

678
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 5>hard to do and he's running out of time. Obviously,

679
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 5>age isn't necessarily on his side at this point. But

680
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 5>he's just reached a new level this year of ability,

681
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 5>of power, yeah, of presence in the battles box that

682
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.000
<v Speaker 5>we've never seen before. So yeah, all you can really

683
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 5>do is stand by and applaud and watch with you

684
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.839
<v Speaker 5>with your mouth agape. I think if he can finish

685
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 5>the season strong, we'll be looking at, yeah, basically the

686
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 5>greatest hitting season we've seen since the great Man himself.

687
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 5>So that I've been just amazed by how good he's

688
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 5>been and hopefully continues.

689
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the people who are talking about his April Russell,

690
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>we should also add you know, he's only on three

691
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 2>hundred home runs at the age of thirty because he

692
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't really, you know, make his mark till he was

693
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 2>in his mid twenties, and its perennially being injured.

694
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Right.

695
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, part of the part of the thing about

696
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Bonds is he played all the time for years.

697
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean he had a bit of help with that,

698
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 3>but that's.

699
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 2>By the bye, so right, Rob, I think you know,

700
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>we don't need, we don't need to dwell on Judge

701
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>too much because you know we've got we've only got

702
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>so much time. And I know you want to talk

703
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 2>about a special particular team that's a favorite of yours.

704
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>So I thought rather than talk, I mean, talk about

705
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Judge if you like, but really I thought you might

706
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>want to just take a lap.

707
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, Well, I mean there's other teams have not

708
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>done as well. I think we may have predicted preseason

709
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that the Texas Rangers weren't going to be white Tom

710
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 1>pointers to where they were last year. And I think

711
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 1>I think, and I don't want to talk too early,

712
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I think we may be fairly well vindicated in our

713
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>selection of the Rangers not being repeaters and maybe being

714
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just a touch fluky with their four o nine winning

715
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>percentage so far, sorry my apolage four fifty eight winning

716
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>percentage this year, they're not going to be a winning team.

717
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>They're probably not going to be a winning team. They

718
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>might just about be a winning team, but like they

719
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>need to really go at some even just to be

720
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 1>a winning team this season. So the Rangers have been

721
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a bloody disaster coming from a point of view where

722
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they had some genuinely good players last year, some fantastic hitters,

723
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 1>like they've got a middle infield to die for. Yet

724
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 1>this this thing is not going well and it was

725
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>just so horribly predictable that it just didn't look right.

726
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 1>It looked like a patch together team that managed to

727
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 1>scrape through last year on practically sheer luck. And I

728
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>think we've we've seen that this year that they are

729
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 1>not good. They are not good.

730
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Russell, do you want to do you want to carry

731
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>on Duncan on the Rangers or do you want to

732
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>take a lap on anybody.

733
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Else whilst whilst where whilst we've got the opportunity to

734
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 3>do it.

735
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I just think that everybody who thought that had

736
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 7>a bit of a surprise season has regressed and the Yeah,

737
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.359
<v Speaker 7>Simeon and Seeger of both probably put up like four

738
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 7>war seasons so far, will probably have four and a

739
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 7>half five war seasons, which are perfectly and outly respectable.

740
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 4>They are like all star level players, but they're not amazing.

741
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 7>And then pitching wise, when Evoldie, Gray and Heeney have

742
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 7>been your best pitchers, it's not probably the position you

743
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 7>wanted to be in. I think only one of them

744
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 7>has any RA under four, which is which is not good.

745
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I think I think also the word thing

746
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.760
<v Speaker 7>saying and talking about how we didn't think that Texas

747
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 7>were going to be good.

748
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 4>We also thought that Arizona were going to be good,

749
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 4>and Arizona.

750
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 6>Has been good.

751
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 2>So you win some, you win some when when you're

752
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 2>baseball experts like we are. Yeah, we also thought the

753
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Mariners were going to be bad. Darius is not available

754
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>this evening, but certainly he wanted us to dump on

755
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Speaker 2>big dump up and so maybe maybe somebody else can

756
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>take up that mantle in his absence, but he was

757
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 2>particularly vociferous about them just being bad.

758
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they're they're they're there are some mistakes

759
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 4>we've made.

760
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 7>I think both of us thought Cincinnati were probably going

761
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 7>to do quite I don't think any of us thought

762
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 7>the Brewers would actually have made this.

763
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Because anybody thought the Brewers were going to you know,

764
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>yet again, Mike.

765
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 7>Gleamand pessimism was was wrong for ninety five percent of

766
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.239
<v Speaker 7>the season and is now looking like it might be

767
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 7>right for the final five percent, which is not the

768
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 7>good thing to watch. But yeah, like, obviously like victory laps,

769
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 7>taking victory laps in August, I think is I think

770
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 7>it's fine. This is about the time of the year

771
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 7>when you can actually start to take your like your

772
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 7>your victory lap.

773
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Obviously. Yeah, we make so many predictions.

774
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 3>On these things.

775
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.199
<v Speaker 7>There are awful Like if you want to talk about

776
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.480
<v Speaker 7>the things, I thought Torres was going to have another

777
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.119
<v Speaker 7>bounce back season, completely netly wrong about that one. I

778
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.800
<v Speaker 7>thought Randy was going to be amazing, completely netly wrong

779
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 7>about that one. So yeah, you can you win some,

780
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 7>but you definitely lose him on those predictions.

781
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Look, I think it was a perfectly reasonable to say

782
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:09.159
<v Speaker 2>that a Milwaukee Brewers with a starting pitching battery of

783
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Joe Ross, Tobias Meyers, Colin Ray, and Aaron Ashby was

784
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>not going to be all that and yet all of

785
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:22.239
<v Speaker 2>those players have been really good, so you know who

786
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.039
<v Speaker 2>knows you just just the moral of that story is

787
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>just it doesn't matter who they are or what their

788
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:33.199
<v Speaker 2>name is. It could literally be like John Smith, that's

789
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>a person who's going to get a three point two

790
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.679
<v Speaker 2>era playing for the Milwaukee Brewers.

791
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.079
<v Speaker 3>Just just lock it in. Just lock it in.

792
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Ben, Have you got anyone that you want to dun

793
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>com or any laps that you want to take?

794
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 6>I don't think so.

795
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 5>If we definitely don't have time on this podcast me

796
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 5>to regard to say all of my terrible takes for

797
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.239
<v Speaker 5>this season, so spare us at the time going through that.

798
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:52.760
<v Speaker 6>I think it's been a bit of a shame.

799
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 5>And the last time we spoke of Deadam we were

800
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.079
<v Speaker 5>talking about, however, like they're going to be at least

801
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 5>an exciting NL wild card race, and all of the

802
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 5>kind of exciting playoff hunts have kind of gone. I mean,

803
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 5>we kind of know who the playoff teams are now,

804
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 5>which is a bit disappointing. There are obviously still a

805
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 5>couple of exciting division races out there, and I guess

806
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.679
<v Speaker 5>there is more of an incentive now than there were

807
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:14.760
<v Speaker 5>there was previously. To actually win your division and be

808
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 5>one of those top couple of teams in each league.

809
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 5>So there's still plenty to kind of watch and look

810
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 5>out for. But it has been sad to see, you know,

811
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 5>the teams in the National League that we thought were

812
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 5>going to be competitive kind of fade away, aside from

813
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:26.679
<v Speaker 5>the Dbacs and Padres who've.

814
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 6>Kind of run away with it.

815
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm not giving up on my New York Mets yet,

816
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 5>but it does feel like it's going to be a

817
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 5>little bit of a nice story. And then remember that

818
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 5>OMG thing rather than the twenty twenty four Mets were

819
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 5>generational and won it all. I've certainly given up on

820
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:42.800
<v Speaker 5>my Rockies, but I think we've done on them enough

821
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.480
<v Speaker 5>for me to do another victory lap there. So yeah,

822
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 5>that's started disappointing one. But no, I think there are

823
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.239
<v Speaker 5>a lot of competitive teams and none that are so

824
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 5>clearly dominant that it's going to make the playoffs no

825
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 5>fun to watch, so it should be exciting.

826
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think the Mets just rode the meme train

827
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 7>for too long, Like Grimace, all good, but the Hocktooler

828
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 7>girl was, ah, you just you just stumped all over

829
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 7>one of my two good, too bad.

830
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's move on to two good too bad. I'm

831
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>assuming that that was going to be a bad rob.

832
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 2>So you wanna do you want to start a negative?

833
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I was teetering. If I'm honest, I really couldn't quite

834
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.199
<v Speaker 1>work up which decided to throw it. I'm gonna go

835
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 1>with bad. I'm gonna go I've got more bad than

836
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 1>good this week. I'm gonna put in No, it's a bad,

837
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a bad Hailey Wilsh Welsh like, I have nothing

838
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>against the girl. This girl, she she had five minutes

839
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of fame on the internet and she's riding that for

840
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the cash she can get ripped. Fair play for the woman.

841
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Let a crack on with it. No problems with that.

842
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 1>My issue is more with with during during the school holidays,

843
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.039
<v Speaker 1>with the New York Mets deciding to put a woman

844
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.639
<v Speaker 1>who's how do we phrase this known for spitting it gentlemen,

845
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>making her throw the first pitch was maybe a little

846
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>bit of a misstep.

847
00:38:58.760 --> 00:38:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

848
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I was teetering between is it a

849
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 1>good thing or is it a bad thing? Is when

850
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>do you remember the last time anyone throughout a ceremonial

851
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 1>first picture? Do you actually remember any of those people,

852
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and this one you do, so maybe the marketing side works.

853
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Like the last one I remember, I was, I was

854
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:17.639
<v Speaker 1>in Tampa Bay and I saw the Chewbacer mom through

855
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>through the first picture on Star Wars Night, so like

856
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember that one. But again because she was an

857
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>internet meme rather than anything serious. It's the issue for

858
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>me is like the day before, Like I don't know

859
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>what the dame for was, but I would imagine, like

860
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, some firefighter who dragged six babies out of

861
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.360
<v Speaker 1>a burning building, like, you know, thank you for your service.

862
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Now here's a woman who does blow jobs. You know,

863
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a bit of a there's a bit of a

864
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>which way do we go with this? You know? So

865
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put as a bad not for her, not

866
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 1>for Haley. She did nothing wrong, but the Mets may

867
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>have needed to have maybe selected the tone little different

868
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 1>on it.

869
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 7>Can I just suggest to me, there's only one reason

870
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 7>why it was bad, and it was not good.

871
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 4>She didn't throw a spitball.

872
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, she should have thrown a spitball.

873
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 3>Come on, I think about good grief. Oh dear Ben,

874
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 3>how are we going to get through this? I mean,

875
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:06.599
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be another.

876
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.159
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be another bad because we're going to

877
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>go in that order first, but please restore some decorum.

878
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.440
<v Speaker 5>My my next bad is is Babe Ruth and his

879
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 5>twenty four million dollar jersey that was sold at auction.

880
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:23.199
<v Speaker 6>I think earlier that what you were.

881
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Going to say, burning his wife Helen to death there, Ben,

882
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>but you know you've kept I.

883
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 6>Can forgive that.

884
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 5>No, look I will, I will be honest. I'm not

885
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 5>the biggest Baby Ruth fan, and that nothing to do

886
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 5>with how nice the man is. I've never got the

887
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 5>chance to meet him, haven't heard Some have heard some

888
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 5>not great stories about him, as you alluded to, But

889
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.639
<v Speaker 5>he was playing in an era of absolute farmers and

890
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 5>villagers and people who did not know how to throw

891
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.440
<v Speaker 5>a fastball bar send sixty miles an hour. He was

892
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 5>hardly a legend of the game, even though sure he

893
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 5>hit a load of home runs and it was a two.

894
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 6>Way player and all of that. I don't have much

895
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 6>time for.

896
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>The guy wasn't player. He wasn't let's just let's just

897
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.239
<v Speaker 2>look that. Sorry to cut you off, mid Rant, I've

898
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 2>got my own. He was not a two way play.

899
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>He was a pitcher. And then he was a hitter.

900
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not a two way yeah, sorry, carry on.

901
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 6>Not even a two way player. So yeah, I'm not

902
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 6>may counting the murders.

903
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 5>I don't really understand the obsession that baseball fans in

904
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.559
<v Speaker 5>America have with him as this kind of either of

905
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 5>the sport. And so yeah, when I saw that that

906
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:28.480
<v Speaker 5>his jersey supposedly from Game two of the nineteen thirty

907
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 5>two World Series where he hit two home runs and

908
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 5>called his shot never happened, it's kind of crazy to

909
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 5>me that that went for for twenty four million dollars

910
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 5>in this era, obviously the most expensive piece of sports

911
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 5>memorabilia of all time. There must be a better way

912
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:44.760
<v Speaker 5>to spend your In fact, there definitely is a better

913
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 5>way to spend your money on literally anything else than this jersey.

914
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:52.159
<v Speaker 5>That is basically, you know, fairy tale made up story

915
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 5>about something that a man who was overweight and not

916
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:57.639
<v Speaker 5>that good did in a World Series game ages ago.

917
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, look, obviously my cup of tea, I accepted

918
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 5>it is for other people, but that that was bad for.

919
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Me, Goodness gracious to me.

920
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we should have ended the entire podcast

921
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 2>with that duel Tour de Force Hawk into Babe Ruth

922
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>dueling rant, the whiplash of gracious may. Of course we

923
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 2>all know that. You know, if you want some great

924
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Babe Ruth memorabilia, then Tom's mum and dad found one

925
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 2>of his actual gloves.

926
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:27.320
<v Speaker 6>For two.

927
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Which Russell was.

928
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>This was in a brick a brackshop somewhere in the

929
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 2>in the Cartswolds, and Russell was, as Russell rightly put

930
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 2>it out, it was literally the wrong hand for Bob Ruth,

931
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 2>famously left handed, would not would not have been having

932
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>his glove on there on his left hand. Yeah, Russell,

933
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean you and I have got how do it?

934
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Well? I think we can't follow that? But do you

935
00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 3>want to do your guardian's rant now?

936
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:00.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I might as well.

937
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 7>I think effectively, Cleveland have built a team that the

938
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.440
<v Speaker 7>hitters slap it around a bit. They've learned to hit

939
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 7>the ball with a bit of power this year, but

940
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.519
<v Speaker 7>it's kind of reliant on the fact that you kind

941
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 7>of don't give up too many runs. They even have

942
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 7>like one of the worst pitching rotations I have seen

943
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.480
<v Speaker 7>in my fandom of watching baseball. I know I've been

944
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.480
<v Speaker 7>spoilt in watching the Cleveland teams over the last like

945
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.679
<v Speaker 7>ten years or whatever, and we've managed to bring through prospects,

946
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 7>left the prospect and had some cy young winners in there.

947
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 4>But my god, is it awful Like when you're when

948
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:33.480
<v Speaker 4>you when.

949
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 7>You're thinking that, like you're in a playoff race and

950
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 7>the players that you bring in are like Matthew Boyd.

951
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.679
<v Speaker 7>It just doesn't bring any sort of level of like enthusiasm,

952
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 7>like like whatsoever. If we look since the start of July,

953
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.679
<v Speaker 7>I think I had it. They have only only been

954
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.000
<v Speaker 7>outstarted as in like the starters of own. Teams that

955
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:57.159
<v Speaker 7>have performed worse are Colorado and Miami. So that tells

956
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 7>you everything, like you had. This is the twenty eight

957
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 7>it's worth starting rotation in baseball since the start of July. Yes,

958
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 7>class A and Gaddis and Smith have been phenomenal throughout

959
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 7>the season, but even in the last few weeks, each

960
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:13.719
<v Speaker 7>one of them has had at least one mishap that

961
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 7>has cost us a game. But you can't expect them

962
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.920
<v Speaker 7>to throw three shutout innings every single game to get

963
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 7>you out of it.

964
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Like the wheels have come off half. This team can't hit.

965
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:26.119
<v Speaker 7>I'll save my good But one of the good things

966
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 7>that has come from maybe this team, but I feel

967
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.400
<v Speaker 7>that they're found out. It's only the fact that no

968
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:35.880
<v Speaker 7>one is good this year. Kansas aren't great, Matt Minnesota

969
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 7>aren't great, Detroit aren't good, and the White Sox are terrible.

970
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 7>And the Cleveland have been five and five with the

971
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:43.480
<v Speaker 7>White Sox. They have the worst record against the White

972
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 7>Socks out of anybody this season. So that puts it

973
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:47.360
<v Speaker 7>all into context.

974
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 2>I think Hill, so from one bad baseball team to another,

975
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 2>mine's going to be short and sweet.

976
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to dwell on it. Rich Hill, What

977
00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.079
<v Speaker 3>the fuck? That's it? Eight times?

978
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 2>It's forty four years old. What we're doing? That just

979
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 2>it's embarrassing. I love Rich Hill, I do know. I

980
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.519
<v Speaker 2>never wanted to see pitching for the Boston Red Sox ever. Again,

981
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 2>why are we here again? It's not a good story anymore.

982
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 2>It's not funny.

983
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>It makes me feel better about myself because because there's

984
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 1>now seven seven Major League Baseball players who are older

985
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>than me remaining there. I have a little game. Actually,

986
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 1>if anybody wants to play, take a punt at the

987
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.079
<v Speaker 1>rest of the top ten oldest players in the base

988
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 1>in MLB right now.

989
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh God, Andrew McCutcheon, nope.

990
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Berlander, yes, number two, well done is at number six.

991
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Sorry five actually because Julie Guriel hasn't played this year,

992
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:47.079
<v Speaker 1>but some reason appears on the list. Charlie Morton, Yes,

993
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:49.639
<v Speaker 1>number four, well done, Ben. But I guess.

994
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 3>This is good audio.

995
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.000
<v Speaker 7>This is really good audio, isn't it. It's got to

996
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 7>be pictures. It's got to make the entirely picture and hoing.

997
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 1>No, we've got We've got a brave, a Mariner, a Ranger,

998
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 1>a Rocky, a met and a Cardinal. That's the rest

999
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:08.119
<v Speaker 1>of the top ten.

1000
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 3>Ryan Presley, No, he's only like thirty six.

1001
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 4>It's not not quite old enough.

1002
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 3>There is the Met one. It's the lefty guy I

1003
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 3>can't remember.

1004
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Adam number nine, the Rocky. Come on, an old

1005
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Rocky who has given a long extension for no good,

1006
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 1>good reason.

1007
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Daniel Blackman, There we.

1008
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Go, Daniel bart.

1009
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You've got an ancient mariner, an ancient mariner. There you

1010
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:36.480
<v Speaker 1>go is a poetic element to it, an ancient Mariner.

1011
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 1>First baseman Samuel Taylor Colery doesn't really play first base anymore.

1012
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Traded deadline, big old Ginge.

1013
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:49.239
<v Speaker 7>Justin Turner, Hey, I forgot Justin Turner would stop playing.

1014
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Two left. We've got we've got a brave.

1015
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 3>We've got a cardinal.

1016
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Cardinal has been rounded about a bit, played a lot

1017
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.280
<v Speaker 1>of positions. Some would call him a super utility man. Cato,

1018
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.679
<v Speaker 1>there we go, well done. He's number ten that leaves

1019
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>number three. Is a brave, pitching brave, I already said,

1020
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Morton was not. I know there's two Braves on

1021
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the list for.

1022
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 3>A brave, so it's a reliever, Tyler mad.

1023
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>No, but we're getting there. Wait, hang on, is he

1024
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 1>a break a j mintor.

1025
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Why have you done this?

1026
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Brave? He is a brave. He definitely is a bo

1027
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 1>He picked up?

1028
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 4>Was he picked up in the trade deadline?

1029
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Was he picked up in the trade deadline? No? He

1030
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is three years a brave. Last other team he played

1031
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>for was the Angels.

1032
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 3>Robs across the worlds on in half an hour. I've

1033
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 3>not got number three?

1034
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Is Jesse Chavez? Oh?

1035
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 6>Is he's still going.

1036
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Number three?

1037
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Get yeah? He keeps getting like released and re signed

1038
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 2>by the Braves, doesn't he?

1039
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 3>Jesse Chavez legend.

1040
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 1>We'll cut all the dead air out there. That'll take

1041
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:02.079
<v Speaker 1>about thirty seconds.

1042
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, good, okay, I didn't mean to say rich Hill,

1043
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Darius put that in my head and

1044
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I just got really and I think I was just

1045
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 2>ben just I was just channeling that energy that you brought.

1046
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 3>So it's all your fault. Sorry, rich Hill.

1047
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.960
<v Speaker 2>But we're way past the jump in the shark on

1048
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 2>rich Hill. He's gone from being you know, remember when

1049
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.519
<v Speaker 2>rich Hill got signed from the Long Island Ducks and

1050
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.320
<v Speaker 2>he had that you know what we thought was his

1051
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Indian Summer and he ended up on getting the deal

1052
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:34.239
<v Speaker 2>with with Oakland and then the three year deal with

1053
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers.

1054
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:36.960
<v Speaker 3>That was like seven years ago.

1055
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.920
<v Speaker 2>And he keeps getting signed by the Red Sox every

1056
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 2>year when they like ship the bed. I'm mad enough anyway,

1057
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about something good.

1058
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Rob What what? What? What's good? You said you had

1059
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:50.360
<v Speaker 3>more bad than good, but.

1060
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>More bad than good. But do you have some good shown?

1061
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 4>He's good?

1062
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, yeah, showy. He just eclipsed his force

1063
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>in the best possible way by by putting both his

1064
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>fortieth steel in the same game as his fortieth home run,

1065
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:10.079
<v Speaker 1>which coincidentally was also a walk off Grand Slam. I

1066
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.199
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any way to better underline your forty

1067
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>forty than doing that. So mister show, mister Otani, take

1068
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 1>a bow. You've done it in the best possible way.

1069
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's he's quite good. Ben yet again, I mean

1070
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 3>follow that yeah hard too.

1071
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 5>But I'm I'm gonna shout out Picrow Armstrong and his

1072
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:27.000
<v Speaker 5>inside the park home run.

1073
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 6>That was kind of electric, wasn't it.

1074
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 5>I think it was the fastest recorded by statcast since

1075
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 5>twenty seventeen.

1076
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 6>And it was one of those which was Baron Buxton obviously, And.

1077
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 5>It was one of those rare inside the park home

1078
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.960
<v Speaker 5>runs where like there wasn't just a floundering fielder who

1079
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:42.599
<v Speaker 5>dived and the ball got passed him. And it was

1080
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 5>kind of a bit of a boring one because that

1081
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 5>was never a chance to get home. He didn't take

1082
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.039
<v Speaker 5>a bit of a weird bounce off the wall, but

1083
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't like a horrendous misplay. He just absolutely legged

1084
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 5>it for the minute he made contact with it. It was

1085
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 5>close at home plate, but a picture perfect head first

1086
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 5>dive into the plate.

1087
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 6>It was brilliant. I loved it.

1088
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 5>And you know, the game's kind of meaningless is Cubs

1089
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 5>smilings near the team's any good?

1090
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 6>But Crow Armstrong's a fun player.

1091
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:05.320
<v Speaker 5>He's going to be good for the Cubs spears to come,

1092
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 5>And that was an amazing moment of just pure speed

1093
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 5>talent on display. Yeah, I thought that was brilliant. So

1094
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 5>shout out PCA and a rare moment of joy for

1095
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 5>Cubstams this year.

1096
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.199
<v Speaker 3>Great Russell, anything good that you've seen?

1097
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm here to talk about Big Christmas. Oh yes,

1098
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.039
<v Speaker 7>jo Kenzie Noel to those who don't know, the fact

1099
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:30.880
<v Speaker 7>Cleveland have probably ran through about fifty five thousand outfielders

1100
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 7>in the last five years trying to find somebody who

1101
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 7>will stick, and to Kenzy Noel is the current one

1102
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:38.000
<v Speaker 7>who is just about capable to be a corner outfield

1103
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:40.320
<v Speaker 7>and actually hitting with some power. How long it lasts,

1104
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:42.800
<v Speaker 7>don't know. It's a good fun story in a team

1105
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 7>that's not particularly playing well to have a guy come

1106
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 7>up and really kind of take on board his big

1107
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 7>Christmas attitude and bring some presents, much needed presents and much.

1108
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Needed power to the Cleveland lineup.

1109
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 6>So yes, he's.

1110
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 7>What's made the last few weeks actually fun to watch

1111
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:04.000
<v Speaker 7>instead of just being entirely depressing.

1112
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.079
<v Speaker 2>I love it, and I love the fact that you've

1113
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 2>won a near miss of my of my list of

1114
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:16.519
<v Speaker 2>goods this week was it being revealed that Trent Thornton,

1115
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the Seattle Mariner's picture, goes by the nickname the Big Dridle.

1116
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:24.960
<v Speaker 2>So we're we're going across all of the dominant denominations

1117
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 2>in their sort of December festivities there with Trent Thornton

1118
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Kenzie, Noel so he who says that we're not

1119
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.159
<v Speaker 2>diverse and inclusive podcast here on Backflips and Nerds with

1120
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the Brig Dridle and Big John Kenzie. I love it,

1121
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not to be a complete homer. I have

1122
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.000
<v Speaker 2>got other other teams that I want to talk about,

1123
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to say something good about the Red Sox,

1124
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 2>and that's that they had the first team led all

1125
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 2>women's booth on Monday, on Bank Holiday Monday here in

1126
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the UK of Emma Tiderman and Riley Pay. They are

1127
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 2>usual the play by play by play announcer and color

1128
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 2>analyst for the double A Portland Sea Dogs, but I'm

1129
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:13.719
<v Speaker 2>quite often joined by Emma's pretty newborn baby. So three

1130
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 2>women booth off and down there in Portland, which is great.

1131
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:19.880
<v Speaker 2>But on this Monday, and they called some of the

1132
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:23.840
<v Speaker 2>innings for the Red Sox game against the Blue Jays,

1133
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:26.079
<v Speaker 2>not not the Danny Jansen game, that the one that

1134
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:27.559
<v Speaker 2>was the other half of the doubleheader.

1135
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's great. Just think it a fantastic thing for

1136
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:31.559
<v Speaker 3>the Red Sox.

1137
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Had done great to see that diversity of voice within

1138
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Major League Baseball, and even better, I saw that, you know,

1139
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.159
<v Speaker 2>the absolute icon of women's sports, Billy gene King has

1140
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>been celebrating them.

1141
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:44.360
<v Speaker 3>They've been fang oliver that which thing.

1142
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:47.920
<v Speaker 2>So congratulations to Emma and to Riley on that amazing

1143
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 2>achievement and huge round for plause, to the Red Sox

1144
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 2>organization and Essen for giving the.

1145
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Opportunity to do it. Rob let's take it down a

1146
00:52:57.800 --> 00:52:58.440
<v Speaker 3>notch again, mate.

1147
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've got kind of a sad one. I've got

1148
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:03.719
<v Speaker 1>one that's a bit sillier. I don't know if I

1149
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 1>go with Alex Vadugo being allergic to his batting gloves,

1150
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think I'm gonna leave that one for now.

1151
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Well reported, it's just ludicrous. I've been watching the Oaklan

1152
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Day's quite a lot, and it's been a bit sad

1153
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:19.320
<v Speaker 1>because we've got into that kind of phase of the

1154
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>season where it's like the last at the at the Coliseum.

1155
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's been a bit of that going on.

1156
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll watch the Rays play there and cameraon

1157
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>isn't potentially was the last rookie to get his first

1158
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>hit at the Colisseum like that kind of stuff. Has

1159
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:38.320
<v Speaker 1>all started hitting hitting home Now they look like they're

1160
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:40.320
<v Speaker 1>having a lot of fun. The guy's playing there locally,

1161
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you know that the team isn't doing as bad as

1162
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 1>we thought they would, and they look like they're they're

1163
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 1>having some fun. But like there's like the visiting teams

1164
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:49.320
<v Speaker 1>are all all going up Mount Davis to have like

1165
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that sort of one last look from up there and

1166
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you do something silly up there, and they're trying to

1167
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 1>make it fun where they can. But it the the

1168
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.639
<v Speaker 1>overarching of messages, of course, that this is a bit

1169
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 1>of a travesty of baseball. Like I've visited that stadium.

1170
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:03.360
<v Speaker 1>It does need bull dozing, don't get me wrong, But

1171
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:05.559
<v Speaker 1>the way it's all gone has been has been pretty awful.

1172
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's it's not been nice and I've not

1173
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 1>particularly enjoyed watching those those games.

1174
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:13.880
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't disagree more. I think it's a great stadium.

1175
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 4>What's outside the stadium. Yeah, it's it's not the.

1176
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 7>Greatest concrete monstrosity, but once you're inside that bowl, it's beautiful.

1177
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:30.639
<v Speaker 1>The facilities de I mean, like the I've likets.

1178
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:32.519
<v Speaker 3>But he loves a pole cat.

1179
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:36.159
<v Speaker 7>Haven't been repainted in like six years and you can

1180
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 7>seal the russ.

1181
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's not nice. It needs it needs really and

1182
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:43.159
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's not a good stadium. It doesn't make

1183
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.519
<v Speaker 1>any sense the way you navigate it. Like it leaks

1184
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:47.800
<v Speaker 1>some places it shouldn't. It is rusty and odd places.

1185
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>It's got so much character. I had a beautiful time there,

1186
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely loved the place. But if you take it as

1187
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a facility and ignore the fact that it's got nostalgia value,

1188
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 1>it's not an appropriate facility for any kind of professional team.

1189
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Like you know that that I frequent League One football

1190
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>quite often, and and a lot of that those stadiums

1191
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.360
<v Speaker 1>are are significantly better than the Oakland.

1192
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 7>A's just half of those clubs have been put through

1193
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:16.519
<v Speaker 7>redundancy and administration to get the money to do that.

1194
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:19.960
<v Speaker 7>Bring back the concrete monstrosities of like the old Den,

1195
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:22.719
<v Speaker 7>and like the that's what that's what you need.

1196
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, anyway, the sad things are happening there.

1197
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ben, a good bad from you.

1198
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.440
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, yeah, I'm saying on the topic of things that

1199
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:34.000
<v Speaker 5>are rusty and not fit for purpose, it's it's the

1200
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:40.440
<v Speaker 5>Seattle Marina's life again. So we did discuss earlier that

1201
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:43.559
<v Speaker 5>the Mariners have have been bad. I think part of

1202
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 5>the way at the start of season you could squint

1203
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:49.280
<v Speaker 5>and see them being good was this seeming ascension to

1204
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 5>superstardom the outfield of Judio Rodriguez was on. It's all

1205
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 5>gone a little bit wrong for him this year, and

1206
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 5>especially of late. I think since the All Star break

1207
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.800
<v Speaker 5>he's hitting one fish six. He's been dealing with injuries,

1208
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 5>but even when on the field, he hasn't looked right,

1209
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 5>certainly in the last couple of months, and that's a

1210
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.159
<v Speaker 5>big miss for the Mariners because they don't really have

1211
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 5>anyone else around him. We did have this kind of

1212
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:13.960
<v Speaker 5>discussion about Corbyn Carroll a couple of months ago, and

1213
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:15.679
<v Speaker 5>it seemed to spark him into life, so I'm hoping

1214
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:18.559
<v Speaker 5>it will do the same for Julio. But yeah, a

1215
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 5>very disappointing season for him. The talent is obviously still there.

1216
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:23.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm not worried long term, but you have to think

1217
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 5>that the injuries aren't you know, aren't passing the way

1218
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 5>that they should be, or something's just gone horribly wrong

1219
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.920
<v Speaker 5>from a coaching perspective, there because he has looked a

1220
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 5>sort of shell at the player who lit up.

1221
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:34.159
<v Speaker 6>The league last year, so hopefully he can he can

1222
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 6>sort that out soon.

1223
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.159
<v Speaker 7>Russell over to you, I don't know if it's just

1224
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 7>because I see snippets of bad umpiring more than I

1225
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.079
<v Speaker 7>see all the snippets is good umpiring.

1226
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.599
<v Speaker 4>But it's been really bad the last couple of weeks.

1227
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.599
<v Speaker 7>There's been some umpire score cork at audits have had

1228
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 7>some absolute shockers of showing kind of eighty five percent

1229
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 7>accuracy or whatever, and my Twitter feed or gets a

1230
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.599
<v Speaker 7>bit of that. Then my Instagram feed is literally just

1231
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.440
<v Speaker 7>people actively hating non umpires, followed by a minor league

1232
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 7>game where there's a call, bad call, person challenges it

1233
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:11.199
<v Speaker 7>goes to first instantaneously instead of walking, instead of yeah,

1234
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:13.519
<v Speaker 7>it takes three seconds done. Why is this not a

1235
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:17.440
<v Speaker 7>Major league baseball now? Like this just needs to change,

1236
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.239
<v Speaker 7>Like we don't want bad things to happen in a

1237
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 7>game that we don't want umpires deciding games by mistakes

1238
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.360
<v Speaker 7>It's like, I've not heard being talked about being implemented

1239
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.280
<v Speaker 7>for next season yet, but it might be. But it's

1240
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 7>just it's an embarrassment when effectively the lower tier of

1241
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 7>professional baseball has this and it's not in the major leagues.

1242
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:42.320
<v Speaker 7>It's just utterly ridiculous. We need the ABS challenge system now.

1243
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree.

1244
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.719
<v Speaker 2>And whilst we're on the topic of bad umpiring, if

1245
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:50.079
<v Speaker 2>for majors, dwell there for a moment, I note that

1246
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be an ESPN thirty for thirty about

1247
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Armando Galarraga's famous non perfect game, which comes up by

1248
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:03.000
<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be released in October, and from

1249
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 2>a really great and of course this being thirty to

1250
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:09.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty incredibly portentious trailer, there's this sort of pregnant suggestion

1251
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:13.119
<v Speaker 2>that maybe they may have pushed Major League Baseball to

1252
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 2>change the ruling.

1253
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:18.159
<v Speaker 3>On that game. How do you feel about Russell's shaking

1254
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 3>his head? I knew and he wasn't going to.

1255
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:28.760
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

1256
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I did they protest the game?

1257
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 5>Like?

1258
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:33.440
<v Speaker 6>Did they? Did they?

1259
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't know any of the details behind it.

1260
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 7>If I was the team, I would have I would

1261
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.880
<v Speaker 7>have protested the game and just walked off the field

1262
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 7>and not play the rest of it or whatever and

1263
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:43.320
<v Speaker 7>just be like, this is a farce. I don't think

1264
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:44.800
<v Speaker 7>you're probably going to do that when you're winning the game.

1265
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<v Speaker 7>When someone's just lost, you just lost their perfect game opportunity.

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<v Speaker 7>But if this was a British baseball the protest would

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<v Speaker 7>have been sent to the Baseball Commissioner.

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<v Speaker 3>Within would have been death threats.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely definitely, we should probably move the conversation on incredibly

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00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:10.480
<v Speaker 2>swiftly after that. Okay, uh my, my, my bad, my

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00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:13.360
<v Speaker 2>too good, too bad, my having a bad week, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of disappointed. Back to your point about the

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00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 2>blanket coverage of Danny Jansen earlier, Russell that this has

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<v Speaker 2>not got more run than it than it really deserved,

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00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:25.519
<v Speaker 2>because it's another thing that had never happened before that

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00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 2>happened on the self same day, which is the first

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00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.519
<v Speaker 2>time in baseball history that two brothers have given up

1278
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:34.840
<v Speaker 2>walk off home runs on the same day, which was

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00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the Diaz brothers, Alexis and Edwin. So I like this

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but it's certainly like a bad thing to

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00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.639
<v Speaker 2>have happened. So, you know, it's sort of a bit

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00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:48.719
<v Speaker 2>of a similitude in that in terms of having several

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00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:53.039
<v Speaker 2>feelings about it at the same time. But yeah, but

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00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:56.400
<v Speaker 2>too good, too bad, and they're too bad, too bad

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00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.719
<v Speaker 2>things that happened to the Diaz family not quite simultaneously,

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<v Speaker 2>but I certainly in the same sphere of time. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's round it out with some with some goodnes.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob players weekend bats. I think they've been fantastic, They've

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<v Speaker 1>been great fun. There's been some really really clever ones,

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<v Speaker 1>some really fun ones. Why can't we do this more often?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I get that maybe if we did it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, they'd be a bit a bit much, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just like Brandon marsh had himself on

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01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:26.119
<v Speaker 1>his own bat, that's fantastic, good well done him.

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<v Speaker 4>And then.

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<v Speaker 1>On reception, yeah, absolutely, and like obviously Rice Harper pandered.

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01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 1>But then also after he pandered, he he got his

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<v Speaker 1>kids like his kids did his bat like it was

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01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 1>a it was a crap kid drawing design. You know,

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01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that was fun. We like that, you know, like Colton Cows,

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01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I had cows. Like these people people are generally have

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01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:47.119
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a little bit of a sense

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01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of a humor that we just don't get to see

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01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.400
<v Speaker 1>very often. In baseball, and I think bats were really

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01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.800
<v Speaker 1>good fun. So you know, like there was so many

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01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of them. I got a list, a list, a list

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01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.159
<v Speaker 1>of here, like Jake Rogers had his journey on it

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01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that was cool. Uh, Tovar had groot Gonna. Henderson had

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01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.079
<v Speaker 1>a mustache that looks looked alarming me like the pringles

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01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:11.360
<v Speaker 1>man's mustache, which which our very own Pringle has recently

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01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 1>shaved off and it looks now But yeah, why can

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01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:16.679
<v Speaker 1>we have more of these bats? I think they're good fun.

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01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:17.920
<v Speaker 1>They're good fun. We like the bats.

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<v Speaker 6>We do.

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01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:20.599
<v Speaker 3>We do like the bats. Other than when bay Brief's

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01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:22.719
<v Speaker 3>handling them. Ben over to, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Wouldn't ever want to have all of la rubbish. You

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01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.440
<v Speaker 5>won't do anything to his players a weekend bat Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>More like the ship anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>That's two good subjects.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, my final good is is s n Y

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01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:34.280
<v Speaker 5>the Mets broadcast.

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01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:35.239
<v Speaker 6>And I know we talk a.

1324
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:39.639
<v Speaker 5>Lot about how good their broadcast booth is Gary ron Keith,

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01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:41.280
<v Speaker 5>but I'm actually going to talk a little bit about

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01:01:41.719 --> 01:01:44.039
<v Speaker 5>the production crew. I just think the s n Y

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01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.760
<v Speaker 5>production crew and the level production they put into their

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01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:50.159
<v Speaker 5>broadcast has reached unbelievable levels this season. It was kind

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01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:51.880
<v Speaker 5>of brought into the spotlight a little bit last week

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01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.599
<v Speaker 5>when they had the two walk off home runs one

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01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:57.280
<v Speaker 5>by Jesse Wingo one by Francisco Alvarez. But the unbelievable

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01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:59.920
<v Speaker 5>production work in terms of camera angles, getting all the

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01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.199
<v Speaker 5>reactions they want to from the crowd, from the players.

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01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:04.199
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they are the very best in the business.

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01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.159
<v Speaker 5>I think John demaster Co is the director who deserves

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01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:09.079
<v Speaker 5>a credit for this. He has a Twitter account that's

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01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 5>worth following where they sort of do some of those

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01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:14.159
<v Speaker 5>shots them inside the inside the production truck and talking

1339
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:15.880
<v Speaker 5>about how they cut from one camera angle to another.

1340
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:18.039
<v Speaker 5>You can see the sort of organized chaos that is

1341
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.559
<v Speaker 5>a baseball broadcast. But yeah, I just think they make

1342
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:23.039
<v Speaker 5>the game of baseball look absolutely beautiful night in, night

1343
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:24.599
<v Speaker 5>out with their with their choice of shots, with the

1344
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:26.559
<v Speaker 5>way they transition from one to the other. And they

1345
01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:29.880
<v Speaker 5>deserve their flowers for turning baseball from a sport into

1346
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:31.880
<v Speaker 5>an art form at times, and obviously, yeah, backed up

1347
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:33.400
<v Speaker 5>by those great guys in the booths, so shout out

1348
01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.639
<v Speaker 5>at smy I think they made the sport even more

1349
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:37.639
<v Speaker 5>enjoyable to watch than the one we already know and love.

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01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 3>I love it loving the Mets. Shocker, Who would have

1351
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:42.880
<v Speaker 3>thought Ben doesn't support the Nets?

1352
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Come on, I love that. That's a really, really great

1353
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:48.400
<v Speaker 2>out of the box choice. Also gives me a moment

1354
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:52.559
<v Speaker 2>to just talk about Winkers walkoff celebration, which just what

1355
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:56.679
<v Speaker 2>every single home run walkoff should be celebrated, like, made

1356
01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:58.960
<v Speaker 2>all of the right people incredibly angry.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Fry, You, I mean, it was just unbelievable. That's

1358
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:03.320
<v Speaker 3>exactly what.

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01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:08.800
<v Speaker 2>That's what anyone would do if they hit a home.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Russell over to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think mine's from a couple of weeks back,

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01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 7>there was a clip from an upcoming documentary which actually

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01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:17.400
<v Speaker 7>might have been shown on MLB Network the other day

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01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:19.800
<v Speaker 7>now about from the Bonds, which was the There's a

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01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:23.159
<v Speaker 7>clip of Bonds and Maddocks talking through and at bat

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01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 7>from when they were in their prime against each other

1367
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:28.639
<v Speaker 7>and then both talking through like what they were thinking,

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01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 7>how they were going against it, and started off with

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01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:32.800
<v Speaker 7>Bonds being like, oh, I'm not going to remember this,

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01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 7>and then get shown the clip and it's like, okay,

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01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.400
<v Speaker 7>so immediately this is what I was thinking going into

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01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:39.039
<v Speaker 7>this pitch. He knows like exactly like what he was

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01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.960
<v Speaker 7>thinking against Maddox, and it was such an interesting way

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01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 7>to kind of see two of these great kind of

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01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:48.800
<v Speaker 7>talk through just just a random moment in a random

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01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:51.360
<v Speaker 7>game around remember, like a plate appearance between the two

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01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.519
<v Speaker 7>of them. And so if you haven't seen that clip,

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01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:55.559
<v Speaker 7>I think obviously the documentary is coming out with Actually

1379
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:57.400
<v Speaker 7>might've already been think it was maybe the twenty fifth,

1380
01:03:57.639 --> 01:03:59.760
<v Speaker 7>but yeah, it's well worth watching to kind of both

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01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:01.719
<v Speaker 7>hear described that at.

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<v Speaker 2>That Yeah, that is a great clip. Definitely worth looking at,

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01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:09.639
<v Speaker 2>those two legends talking apart their craft and sort of

1384
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:12.960
<v Speaker 2>bouncing off one another. Yeah, sort from the sublime to

1385
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:16.159
<v Speaker 2>the ridiculous. Because I'm going to give it, after Ben

1386
01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:20.440
<v Speaker 2>giving sny Sny's back office a bit of a nod,

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01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give a nod to some of the

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01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 2>unsung heroes of Major League Baseball. That is, the kit

1389
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:28.320
<v Speaker 2>men who make up make up the Kits, who this

1390
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:34.039
<v Speaker 2>week have had the Leviathan task of fulfilling the longest

1391
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:38.639
<v Speaker 2>starting pitching dual of all time in terms of the

1392
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:42.000
<v Speaker 2>length of their names, which was between Spencer Schwellen back

1393
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:45.440
<v Speaker 2>of the Atlanta Braves and Simeon Woods Richardson of the

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01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota twins that combined length of twenty nine letters, the

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01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:53.880
<v Speaker 2>longest names on the back of Major League Baseball jerseys

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01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:57.159
<v Speaker 2>going head to ahead ever in a starting pitching jill.

1397
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<v Speaker 2>And as we all know, there's been a lot of

1398
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 2>contry obviously around these new uniforms, but maybe, maybe, just

1399
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:08.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe fanatics and Nike knew that there was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a schwellenback versus Woods Richardson Duwell this year, and

1401
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:14.280
<v Speaker 2>that's why they made the letters really tiny. And if

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01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 2>they did, that was the level of foresight that one

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01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:21.159
<v Speaker 2>expects of some of the great sports brands of the world.

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01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was a fun curio. I had to

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01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:26.840
<v Speaker 2>see those two guys get to face off against one

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01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.360
<v Speaker 2>another at the same time. Right, guys, We've had a

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01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.360
<v Speaker 2>lovely old chat. I hope everyone's had a lovely time

1408
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:36.199
<v Speaker 2>listening to it. We've got gone from everything from Ben's

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01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:42.199
<v Speaker 2>outright hatred of bain Proof three to John Kenzie Noel.

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01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what other podcast can you say? Does that

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01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:49.320
<v Speaker 2>in just over an hour and we've managed it lovely

1412
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:51.960
<v Speaker 2>to see you all. I would ask the usual questions

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01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:53.840
<v Speaker 2>like do you have any writing coming up? But of

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01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:55.920
<v Speaker 2>course you don't, and I'm just going to boast that

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01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:01.519
<v Speaker 2>I did some so pull your fingers out, guys. Yeah,

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01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:04.039
<v Speaker 2>get yourself over to bathfortonners dot com. There's a lot

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01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:05.760
<v Speaker 2>of great content going up there all the time, and

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01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:09.880
<v Speaker 2>cleaning occasionally by by me uh and we will see

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<v Speaker 2>you again very soon