WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:04.040 Oh, we're in at stith Heads crack of beer. It's 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:06.240 not a natty this time. It's a freaking or not natty. 3 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.279 It's not a keystone, it's a PBR. But whatever, We're 4 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:10.160 gonna change it up a little bit because we're gonna 5 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:12.839 get weird today. All right. There's so many weird things 6 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:14.800 going on in the world that keep us distracted from 7 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:17.280 everything else. But there's actually weirder shit out there that 8 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:20.199 we kind of forget about because our force is drained 9 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:22.239 every damn day by the twenty four to seven news 10 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:25.879 media and all that shit. So anyways, welcome to the show. 11 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:29.079 A guest I've been listening to for multiple years many 12 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:31.879 other podcasts. Great fucking researcher. I'm glad to make this 13 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:34.560 connection finally, Chris Matthew, How you doing? Brother? 14 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:37.560 Hey Derek, what's up man? Thank you so much for 15 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:39.960 having me on. Ready to get weird with you, brother, 16 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:40.960 mm hmm. 17 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:43.679 Like I said, some weirdness in the world, you know. 18 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:47.039 Like what I kind of really messaged you to be 19 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:50.079 honest with you about was in the first place was 20 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:52.920 me and my wife were always like, okay, let's take 21 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.320 one vacation each year for us and then one vacation 22 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.039 with three kids, right, because a vacation with three kids 23 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.520 is not really a vacation. It's fucking babysit and it's 24 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.600 you know, it's a lot of shit to deal with, 25 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:04.560 so you don't really get to let loose. So we 26 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:06.840 were like, what if we went to like a national park. 27 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:10.280 We were thinking about Yosemite. I was like, one of 28 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:12.439 the only reasons to kind of drag me to California 29 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:14.760 in the first place, and then I start thinking about him, 30 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.599 like yeah, but man, like the national park stories get 31 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:21.560 really weird because most of them go unsolved. A lot 32 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:24.719 of them just really get forgotten about. If you've noticed 33 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.640 in your research over the years, it's kind of just like, 34 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:30.359 you know, Teddy Roosevelt opens national park systems, but he 35 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.640 also wrote about kind of bigfoots and other fucking monsters 36 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:36.920 and stuff over the years, So you're like, did we 37 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.359 just make a big prison for these things? And if 38 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:41.959 people go missing him in it, that's just kind of 39 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:44.840 like so what you see where I'm kind of going 40 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:45.120 with that. 41 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.040 Yeah, we jump in a little bit. Yeah, it's pretty weird. 42 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:56.200 I've never had any personal experiences with cryptids or any 43 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:01.519 which you would probably consider traditional pair normal experiences, but 44 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:05.640 I've spoken with many, many people who have I kind 45 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:10.560 of put myself through the metaphysical ringer, you could say, 46 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:16.039 with my own psychedelic experiences and meditation. Very strange things 47 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:19.599 would occur through some of those situations, but other than that, 48 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:26.360 haven't really experienced anything personal. But I am definitely fascinated 49 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:30.599 with the possibilities surrounding things like the missing for one one, 50 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:37.719 encryptids and beings, and recently something has been pushing the 51 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:43.879 guests I've been having and the conversations more towards a 52 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:52.879 reality that whatever these beings are may not be separate beings, 53 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:59.639 that it may be one all encompassing intelligence somewhat connected 54 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:07.360 to simulation theory, but that there are actually intelligences involved 55 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:10.479 and they pull strings kind of like a have you 56 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.759 seen Dark City? Kind of like a Dark City scenario. 57 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:16.639 I've passed by the movie multiple times. Is that one 58 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:19.319 with keep for Sutherland in it? I believe? Yes, Yeah, okay, 59 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:22.120 I've It's on my watch list. Man, I've actually walked anyways, 60 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:22.400 because I. 61 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.719 Don't want to give it away for you, but basically, 62 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:29.599 the whole reality is controlled by these beings and they 63 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:34.680 don't necessarily have our best interest in mind. But where 64 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.800 I'm at with everything right now is I have no idea. 65 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:41.159 We could get a little deeper into that, and it's fun. 66 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:44.520 It's not having any idea, just having questions. Yeah, that's right. 67 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.719 I have more questions now than I ever had any answers. 68 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:54.680 But as far as the individual situations and experiences that 69 00:03:54.759 --> 00:04:01.039 people have connected to high strangeness, like cryptids and disappearances 70 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:04.639 and things like that, they can vary tremendously. But I 71 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:07.800 think when we look at the similarities, that's what points 72 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:11.319 to there is something that we don't really understand. And 73 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.360 it's not just one thing or the other. It's a 74 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.480 little bit of everything because it seems to be interwoven 75 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.800 and connected in that way. But that's just where I'm 76 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:23.680 at with quote unquote the phenomenon right now. 77 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.480 It seems like it's just like a high strangeness. It's 78 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.920 like like Tripoli's basically said, like it's like certain places 79 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.560 are like a haunted house, you know, and and and 80 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.279 a haunted house could have five different entities, well all 81 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:37.639 of five different you know, outcomes that they're trying to 82 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:39.759 come up with at the same time, like they're not 83 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.079 on the same page. That's what it seems like a 84 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:45.319 lot of these weird stories, whether it's you know, orbs, 85 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.279 whether it's the Skinwalker Ranch and and some of these 86 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.519 other places, like they're not always the exact same story, 87 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.920 but there's a weirdness that's very similar, kind of like 88 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.000 you're saying to a lot of them. When you narrow 89 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:56.639 it down. 90 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:00.879 It is when we look at the place, the individual 91 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:04.040 place is like Skinwalker Ranch or are there any places 92 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:09.360 of high strangeness. There are certain things that happen across 93 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.399 the board, and there are you can go to those 94 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:16.319 areas and expect something to happen. But if you look 95 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.959 at people who have high strangeness that follow them around, 96 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:27.120 there is something connected with that individual's consciousness that either 97 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.759 their perception is open enough to be able to perceive 98 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:34.360 these things, or whatever this is is attracted to them 99 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.240 in some way. But there's also another level of this. 100 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:42.120 People who go seeking them phenomena and are for example, 101 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:47.519 magical practitioners or occultists, they open up something in their 102 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.079 lives and the phenomena starts to manifest around them in 103 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:54.240 certain ways. So I think it's everywhere. I think we 104 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.680 have certain keys that can unlock the experience in certain locations, 105 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:02.360 and I think certain locations are more potent, meaning maybe 106 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:05.680 the veilst thinner there and the energy is different. We 107 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.319 have access to it, but there's also certain people with 108 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:11.720 access to it, and I think we all have the 109 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.279 potential to access it. We just have to have that 110 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:20.319 certain connection and make that connection with it. I personally 111 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:24.120 made a connection with it through the psychedelic and meditative experiences. 112 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.600 I have a connection with now what I call my guides, 113 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.800 But still I question that. I question that experience because 114 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:34.600 I don't know exactly what I'm speaking with. There was 115 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:37.240 a while in my life where I was taking the 116 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:41.160 guidance of these beings just, you know, pretty much just 117 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:44.959 doing whatever they wanted me to do, because I felt 118 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.560 that they were angels or spirit guides and everything they 119 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.600 had told me was true, and they seemed to be 120 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:55.959 very benevolent and guiding me towards good experiences. I no 121 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:59.480 longer do that. I no longer listen to these beings 122 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:03.519 because I have heard too many other experiences and I 123 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:07.959 know how this stuff works much better now, and there 124 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.879 seems to be a level of deception even with the 125 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:17.199 most benevolent experiences with the most benevolent contact experiences, whether 126 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.399 it's for our greater good, whether they know something more 127 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.079 than we don't and they're guiding us towards something. I 128 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:26.879 don't know. But the more I look at it, it 129 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:29.920 just seems to be two sides of the same phenomena. 130 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:35.199 Say it's wearing a mask of Jesus, it's wearing a 131 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:39.199 mask of demons, and it presents itself however it wants 132 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.240 you to see the phenomena. 133 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.600 Right, I see that too. If you think about it, 134 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:49.199 it's it's kind of like, yeah, whatever your intentions, whatever 135 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:53.040 you're looking into, whatever you're interested in, that's what it 136 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:56.519 tries to latch onto. Whether it's your dead grandma that 137 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:58.399 you miss and they know that they can gravi you 138 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.160 with that, whether it's you want to see Jesus, whether 139 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.399 it's whatever. It's it's really interesting. Let me ask you 140 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.279 this then, So you said, after you stopped talking, like 141 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.519 not talking, but after you stopped listening to what you're 142 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:14.240 you know, whatever they were on that other side of 143 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:17.720 the veil, was there any pushback, Like did you feel 144 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:19.120 any pushback or any weird like no. 145 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.399 And I'm not gonna say I stopped listening. There's still communication, 146 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.920 and I do still listen to the messages that come through, 147 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:29.319 and I listen fearlessly. I don't have any fear that 148 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:32.600 I'm communicating because whatever this is, I've come to realize 149 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.120 has been with me my whole life. It's my conscience, 150 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.080 it's you awakened it. Yeah, yeah, it's whatever keeps you 151 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:42.879 from stepping off a cliff. It's that gut feeling you 152 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:46.159 get about certain situations. It's connected. It's all the same thing. 153 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:49.720 But do I trust it wholeheartedly? No? I do not, 154 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.919 because still I don't know what is beyond the veil. 155 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.759 I don't know what this existence, this reality, my incarnation 156 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.919 is truly about. I have consideration, I know what works 157 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:04.200 for me, and I know I do have a belief 158 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:09.639 in a creator God, and I've had enough experiences that 159 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:14.440 point me to the power of Christ consciousness and whatever 160 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:18.639 Christ is, there's something very powerful there as well. Other 161 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.360 than that, I couldn't tell you what is going on 162 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.279 in these spirit realms. But that is why I do 163 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:25.559 this every day, because I'm trying to dig it a 164 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:28.440 little deeper into it and find out a little bit more. 165 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:29.480 As much as I can. 166 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.360 Well, yeah, And that's what makes it interesting, is you know, 167 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:35.639 we get into conspiracies, whether it's government or whether it's 168 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.440 NASA or well, I guess that's government, or whether it's 169 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:42.320 you know, history in itself or entities or bigfoots or whatever. 170 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:46.279 We get into these ideas of like, hey, these people 171 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.399 that say they're telling us the truth aren't really telling 172 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.399 us the truth. So then your friends will be like, oh, 173 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.639 so you know the answers to everything. I'm like, no, 174 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.360 the more you dig into shit, like you realize I 175 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.399 know nothing. I'm retarded, Like you know, like at least 176 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:00.559 you're looking into it, but you're like you come up 177 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.679 with one hundred more questions for half of an answer, 178 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.320 you know. And that's the interesting thing about not knowing 179 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:10.720 what's there. Some people think Bigfoot is a real human entity, 180 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:12.960 I mean not human, but at real entity. Some people 181 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.679 think he's a metaphysical thing that comes in and out 182 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.919 of portals and shit, I mean back to energies and 183 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:21.320 lay lines and things like that. There's a lot of 184 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:25.039 mysteries in this world that it's kind of weird that 185 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:26.840 like seems like more like the evil people want to 186 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:28.960 tap a little more into him. But it's nice to 187 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:31.639 know there's good intention people out there too, trying to 188 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:33.120 figure out what the hell these things are. 189 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.960 Oh yeah, there's a lot of interest from our three 190 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:42.080 letter agencies, military industrial complex in the quote unquote phenomena. 191 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.080 My friend Ryan Burns who has the space Wolf research 192 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:49.480 next to Skinwalker Ranch, these people come out there, four 193 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:53.559 star generals and people involved with the aerospace companies and 194 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.960 the military, and they basically throw money at him. But 195 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:01.080 it's the strangest thing. Yes, they're doing science experiments, but 196 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.200 a lot of these guys are doing rituals out there, 197 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:06.600 and they're doing magic and they're trying to summon things. 198 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:11.519 And traditional UFO lore has nothing to do with ritual 199 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.039 magic or summering things. It's little green men coming on 200 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:19.639 tim cans from different galaxies and probing our assholes. But 201 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:23.360 there's something much more going on to it with it, 202 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:26.120 and I think at some high levels they do understand 203 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:29.360 that there is something more going on with it, and 204 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.360 there seems to be a game being played at higher levels, 205 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:36.799 which I don't really understand exactly how it's all put 206 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:41.600 together yet. Because we have the congressional whistleblowers who are 207 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:46.600 portraying one understanding of things which coincides with a threat 208 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:49.639 from outer space. And then we have these deeper level 209 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:53.519 people like the Collins, E. Leade and others involved at 210 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:56.200 the high level in the Pentagon, who were saying that 211 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.399 it's demonic forces that we shouldn't be trusting it. So, 212 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:03.919 in my perspective, the answer somewhere in between all that. 213 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:08.399 I just there's a huge space in between to explore. 214 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:12.240 So it's almost impossible to understand right now. Yeah, but 215 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.000 I think that we're getting to a point where it's 216 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:19.039 gonna be harder and harder for them to obfuscate the 217 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:24.679 fact that there is something metaphysical beyond green men coming 218 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.639 from planets involved with all of this. 219 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.759 I think it's a little bit of of all the above, 220 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.399 you know, is they want you to go into this 221 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:36.320 like binary idea of like, okay, you know, you believe 222 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:38.799 this isn't a flat Earth around Earth debate. But it's 223 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:40.879 also it's like they want you to believe that there's 224 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.960 little green men from millions of light years away, you know, 225 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:46.200 and they're like, Okay, there's that space travel side of it, 226 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:47.960 why the hell would they come to Earth? But then 227 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.720 there's also this other idea of like, no, they're already here, man, 228 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:52.840 Like what if they're in the oceans, and what if 229 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:55.000 they're and blah blah blah, And like I think there's 230 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:56.639 a little bit of truth in all these things. What 231 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.639 if some of these things, Yeah, I can transcend time 232 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:03.159 and space itself, and we don't even know whether it's 233 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.799 like what if, say, hypothetically demons and aliens both exist 234 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.960 and they both have a little bit of the same powers, 235 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.279 so we're kind of like misconstrue in one for the other. 236 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.600 You kind of see where I'm going with that binary 237 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:19.000 Or it's like some people say, oh, aliens are demons, 238 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.679 and other people are like Independence Day, ready to welcome 239 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.360 the aliens, and then they get blasted on the rooftop. 240 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:24.679 You know. 241 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:30.639 Yeah, I am at a point where I am a 242 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.080 cautious observer, but I'm not gonna go into anything with 243 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:40.799 fear because from my own experiences, fear is fuel for 244 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:44.799 whatever the negative entities are, and I'm not even sure 245 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.879 that they're truly negative in a sense. We'll get to 246 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.679 that a little later, because there's a big there is 247 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:54.759 a huge ocean of possibilities with this that I'd like 248 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:02.519 to explore. But when it comes to the the phenomena 249 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:10.080 of say UFO abductions that have people have traditionally experienced 250 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:14.559 the gray beings and being taken on craft having genetic 251 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:19.799 experiments done to them. And this is something that started 252 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:23.600 out with you can say, around the forties and fifties, 253 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:25.840 and then they had the Betty and Barney Hill case. 254 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:31.200 But it was all being slowly dripped into the consciousness 255 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:35.840 through what we saw on the television and media, and 256 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:40.360 through books that were coming out through these early experiences. 257 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:41.919 World War two beyond Yeah Rocket. 258 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.279 Then we have the book Communion, which I remember when 259 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:47.919 I was a kid, I saw the alien gray face 260 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:50.799 on that thing, and it stuck with me. It was 261 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:53.320 so powerful that I had nightmares about that thing. But 262 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:59.080 these kept building in the collective consciousness, and then we 263 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:04.600 have people who start regularly experiencing this and it just 264 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:08.600 became a phenomenon that people accepted as this is what's happening. 265 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:12.080 And then later on you get into the past life 266 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:16.159 regressions and hypnotism, and they're bringing spirituality into the UFO 267 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:19.679 fields and people start to realize when they're being regressed, oh, 268 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:23.600 this isn't exactly what happened. It happened a different way, 269 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.879 and you start connecting it more with altered states of 270 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:35.120 consciousness and the way that the interactions go with these beings. 271 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.519 It seems like they have the ability to control our perception, 272 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:44.159 to completely control our reality and change it. And it 273 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:51.519 kept progressing to where now we have two different kind 274 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:55.639 of experiences that people have. We have the negative abductions, 275 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:59.879 and then we have these positive experiences where angelic celestial 276 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.960 beings will not necessarily abduct people but come to them 277 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.360 in their dreams, or it'll be a nice, benevolent, beautiful 278 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:14.000 experience where they are given information about the planet or themselves, 279 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.039 but it's or they're healed in some way. And then 280 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:22.480 you have the other abduction, the negative experiences. But in 281 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:28.320 our modern negative abduction experiences, people report military personnel often 282 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.679 being involved with this. This is a huge right flag 283 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:36.039 because it comes up quite often with the more negative 284 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:39.519 cases that there are humans involved with this. So the 285 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:42.960 level of deception can go pretty deep, and it's pretty 286 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:48.039 difficult to navigate through the phenomena as it stands right. 287 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:51.360 Now, dude, And oh my god, there's a lot to 288 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:54.360 unpacked there. But just towards that last part, you just 289 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.440 got my brain really going on, like the idea of 290 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:00.360 the three letter agencies, the men in black situations like that, 291 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.440 the ones that where, you know, most a lot of 292 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.079 modern cases or even in the past couple decades or 293 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:10.880 however long you'll hear these people say that, Yeah, like 294 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.720 right after I saw this thing, these guys showed up, 295 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:16.759 not the alien guys, these dudes in black suburbans or 296 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.720 black cadillacs or whatever, you know, and this men in 297 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.680 black type scenario, and then it really gives you this 298 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.079 like opening a Pandora's box kind of idea of like, well, 299 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:30.079 wait a minute, are these guys waiting and tracking these 300 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.880 things that are happening on a radar or something or 301 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:36.119 in a pulse wave system or whatever these things these 302 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:40.839 aliens are you know, traveling with Are they aware? It's 303 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.279 almost like, you know, like a shooting situation. And then 304 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:45.200 the FBI comes out and says, yeah, he was on 305 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:48.680 our radar, Like oh, you knew beforehand, you allowed it 306 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:51.359 to happen, or are these guys like tracking it and 307 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.519 they're just a little too slow. And then there's like, oh, 308 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:56.400 here's a situation. Let's talk to the people now, like 309 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:57.359 what are your thoughts. 310 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.279 On that there's a similar thing that happens with like 311 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.480 bigfoot cases and people who come into contact with things 312 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:09.400 like dog men. There are these agents or wildlife agents, 313 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:14.680 are some official that shows up within minutes of the 314 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.680 incident and explains to you what you really saw and 315 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:21.880 how you shouldn't talk about anything. And this is reported 316 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.400 all the time. But it goes deeper too, because I 317 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.960 think that like you're saying, is there's some kind of 318 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:34.079 notification system. I think there are people that are deeply 319 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:39.920 involved with the phenomenon itself, meaning I'm talking agent smith 320 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:44.519 matrix type stuff. That there there may be non human 321 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.599 humans that just look like you and me that can 322 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.440 come in and adjust things. They're the hammers, They're like 323 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.400 the adjustment bureau, like the Dark City. 324 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:57.599 Yeah, the fucking clean up guy on pulp fiction and 325 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.799 the wolf or whatever. Yeah, exactly, yes, man. 326 00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:04.599 So this again points to simulated reality, matrix reality. I 327 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:09.279 don't know, but going back to the Bigfoot and for 328 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:13.559 one one cases. So, I've had a few guests recently, 329 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:17.440 some of them claim to be able to speak with 330 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:21.319 other entities. I had one who is just a magical 331 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:25.680 practitioner who understands a lot of metaphysical concepts, and I 332 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:30.279 had a couple that are bigfoot researchers. So the common 333 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:36.640 thread between all those guests is they claimed not in 334 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.559 exactly the same way, but they claim that there is 335 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:46.279 some sort of human hunting license against a human hunting 336 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:55.839 license that etheric, elemental, bigfoots, fairies, these beings have license 337 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.599 to take someone if they wander too far off a 338 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.480 certain path, if they are disrespectful in national forests, if 339 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:05.960 they take things that they're not supposed to take. 340 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:08.480 It's like predator movies. Dude, Yeah, exactly. 341 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:12.519 But there is a class of beings that are predatory 342 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.480 that are kind of etheric. They are what you would 343 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:20.039 call elementals or fairies, and they're in the same kind 344 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:24.000 of classification as bigfoot, according to all these researchers that 345 00:20:24.079 --> 00:20:28.359 I've recently spoken with, and they have license to take people. 346 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:34.039 And there's apparently some sort of disagreement amongst the institties 347 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:38.079 if there should even be doing that. There's ones that 348 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.680 disagree with it. There are some that think we're food 349 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:46.240 and delicious, so crazy stuff out there. But I do 350 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:50.440 think that there are any time we are entering into 351 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:56.640 a national forest or wildlife area, there are unseen intelligences everywhere. 352 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.880 And I've gotten hitchhikers come home with me from camping 353 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:05.640 trips and other areas that I've gone to that will 354 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:10.039 manifest in your home as poltergeist or hauntings or extremely 355 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:11.200 negative energy. 356 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:16.480 It's pretty wild, kind of creepy, man. Well, a lot 357 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:18.279 of these people, even if they're not into these kind 358 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.319 of subjects, you know, these you know whatever, just families 359 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:23.799 on vacation, like I was alluding to earlier, kind of deal, 360 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:26.599 they'll go and they'll say there's this magic to these 361 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.519 places when they go to these these you know, national 362 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:33.359 parks and kind of what I was alluding to earlier 363 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:36.079 of like Teddy Roosevelt in the National park system and 364 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:39.480 everything being this big hunter. And then we heard all 365 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:43.400 these stories from eighteen hundreds of different things of you know, 366 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:46.599 giants and this and that and trolls and whatever else 367 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:49.039 you could think of that we're in newspaper articles and stuff, 368 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:51.640 whether it was true or not. But I'm just saying, 369 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.079 like you get into the idea of like what you're saying, 370 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:58.680 almost a hunting pass for humans if they trespass too deep. 371 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.880 And because people don't realize national parks, most people barely 372 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.200 go into them. They're drastically bigger than where most people 373 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:10.079 really venture into and they warn you about that, and 374 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:14.200 it's kind of like, what the fuck is hiding in there? Man, 375 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.440 Like it could be a little bit of everything. It's 376 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:18.279 a big it's a buffet, you know. 377 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:22.079 Yeah. Yeah. But Sasquatch is still kind of an enigma 378 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:30.359 to me because they've had so many physical aspects that 379 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.160 have been reported over the years, even a little bit 380 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:35.480 of physical evidence here and there, the footprints, the hair. 381 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:37.480 I've heard a couple of people and say they found 382 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:42.880 bigfootshit somewhere. So really there is that aspect that I 383 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:48.400 wonder how physical these beings are. But there is also 384 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.680 have you heard of the gifting fields? 385 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:56.279 The gifting fields though maybe not go ahead, and there 386 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:01.559 are there are these uh, very powerful three letter agency 387 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:05.880 groups and they're not officially like a group, but they 388 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:10.559 have different individuals like from the CIA, FBI that get together, 389 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:12.640 call them the. 390 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:18.240 Invisible College, but they are specifically looking into UFOs, but 391 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:22.119 they know that there's something more, something more cult driven 392 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:26.880 behind it. Well, these these groups apparently can go to 393 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:31.480 this area. Diana Posolka wrote about it that oka metamterials 394 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:34.839 meta materials just appear for them. So they go out 395 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:38.599 to this area and they are gifted these strange things. 396 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:42.599 But they look like regular objects that we'd have here, 397 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:47.279 like rocks or blades of grass, but their their makeup 398 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:51.960 is different. There's whatever whenever you analyze it in a lab, 399 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.279 different isotopes, all that, and it's not a natural object. 400 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:58.759 Interesting, well, they have. 401 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:04.640