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though it's a Hoochinani we're talking about the Hoochinani whiskey

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of music festival with the do I say co sponsor

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sean owner?

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Speaker 3: Co owner?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? The uh? Because I think last year time

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he did this in Geneseo. And then how did he

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you into this because putting on a music festival is

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a enormous and forgive my friends painting the fucking ass.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the fucking ass. Well I didn't know that

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when I agreed, you know, it's just seemed like it

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would be all fun. So the way it went down, uh,

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he was definitely.

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Speaker 1: Like, hey man, well, first of all, we'll go back.

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Speaker 4: I've always like known uptill me like we've seen each other.

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What's something man, But we didn't get tight really until

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post COVID, I would say. And then uh, he told

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me in twenty twenty three he was doing this festival

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and he had the whole vision.

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Speaker 1: He was excited.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which, of course he needed me for a tense

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I'm like, yeah, I did. We'll do it, and we'll

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you know, we'll do it for a steal, like you know,

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we get a massive friends and family discount. And it

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was a cool event.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know that was down in Geneseo

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at the time, right, yeah, last year in the fall too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in the fall. When we say last year, now,

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last year was twenty twenty three, last last year. But

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really cool design and really cool consped of course.

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Speaker 1: Everything he does has a very cool concept. I'm so

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blown away by that dude, honestly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's awesome.

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Speaker 1: He just whatever he touches, it's it's a great yeah,

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patient and he waits for it. It comes together nicely.

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It's just it's a it's a cool vibe that he

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has as a human.

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Speaker 4: That's what draws people into it, you know what I mean.

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So he did it there, and it's like, it's tough

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to start a new festival out in the farm country

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basically it is, right, but he had some success and

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of course you know the weather it was October. I

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think twenty first wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: You're on the Yeah, man there.

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Speaker 4: Yep, but it happened, and you know, they did fine

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in the first year, and I just felt like, I'm like,

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it was really cool, and I'm like, I think he's

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got something here, and I think it could be more.

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to get through that first year, right and just prove

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that you can do it, which they did, and I

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think he just kind of kind of like approached me

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the last spring, right spring of twenty four. We're in

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twenty twenty five now, right, we are cool.

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Speaker 1: It's a blur. I know, it's a blur. Days.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, every day is going back like it's crazy,

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but that's all I fais. So he approached me kind

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of just saying, you know, I want to get you involved,

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and it kind of into the summer became more than that,

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where Tim was kind of steering the ship of hoochin

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any and he needed help and he just wanted to

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take on a full new partner and kind of eliminate

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the whole everyone else that was involved and just be like,

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let's see and me do this together.

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Speaker 1: And I said, yes, yeah, well I got to say

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this before we get to into everything, because I have

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questions and says to how the pitch to the town

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of Irondoquoi, because they haven't done anything like this at

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Eastman that I know of. I know there's been the

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Irish Fast and that sort of thing that spanned a

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couple of days. This is a big deal. You have

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bands that people are out of their minds excited about now.

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Probably one that was commercially known more than Anyboddy is

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Joone Jet and the Black Hearts, right, And I always

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was a fan of Jone Jet some of her music,

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hit I was. I was like, eh, but Joan Jet

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is a fucking rock stares just in the fact that

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it was an all women's band. I don't know if

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you knew the Runaways of course, and Leada Ford was

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in that band. All these people she that disbands and

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she goes in shops. I mean, we're talking like nineteen

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eighty female and rock and roll. This woman went out

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and produced her own album like now you can do

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shit at home, right, We're doing a podcast from you

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could do it anywhere. You know what I'm saying that

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I always joked the barrier to entry's gone. She man

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was a hustler and went out and did this whole thing.

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style rock that she does. So that's a great one.

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Speaker 4: I love the old ninety seven it's the real deal better.

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I mean, like the people who know them, you know them,

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you know what I mean. Another, I mean, so Mo

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and dark Star together that combo I think for that scene,

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for the jam band scene, people like.

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Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, which Goose, by the way, is one I'm

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sorry one too, Okay, it's so good.

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Speaker 4: Eggie is also like an up and coming jam band,

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and Galactic from New Orleans, who like I mean, they're

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like a staple in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: So do you know the I mean, did you have

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a hand in getting these?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So some of it was.

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Speaker 4: Already set in motion kind of when I when I

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came on board, so I kind of just went with

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what time it was already trying to do. But what

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I realized quick, so booking bands it's a tough world.

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It's a tough industry, you know. I didn't realize how

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tough it was.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times you're looking at their schedule if

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they if they have an off day and they're going

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to let's say a buffalo, can they come on a

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Saturday here or a Friday here?

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Speaker 4: What I found out it's like, I mean, at least

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this year we didn't luck out like that. I think

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the bigger your festival gets you you have the chance

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of people kind of running the festival circuit sequentially.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, but pretty much.

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Speaker 4: Festivals, you know your pay, you gotta fly the band in.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this like the record company is they're

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they're a great band. I'm not. I've never heard of

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Tommy Burnett, All Stars, Cavalcado of Scoundrels. Never Yeah, who's

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Tommy Burnette?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that's always a fun one, you know.

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they are FORGI. It's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Even like the two bands, the Vandeliers and the jack

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Knives who are opening. Yeah, you know, it's like a

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they see them. That band was a lot of fun. Yeah,

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every band, which we're gonna have a Spotify playlist released

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in days once I take the time to do it.

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and it's uh and every band's good live and that's

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a big thing too, like us. Someone on the radio

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the other day was like, oh, Joe Jack, she's got

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to be an old gramdma. Now, well, first of all,

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definitely not a grandma.

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Speaker 1: Just sorry, but she's not your grandma.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but because she never had kids, let alone, so

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her kids never had kids. Just look up a YouTube video,

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just type Joan Jet twenty twenty four and just watch

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her live and tell me she's a grandma. You know

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what I mean. She's sixty six years Young's amazing.

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Speaker 1: She's she's great and matter of fact, the Sunday Night

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football theme is based on uh, I hate what was

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I hate being in love with you or something like that.

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I hate myself from loving you? Is the Sunday Night

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football theme is that. Yeah, that's what they took and

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in one year she came out and sang it with

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Carrie Underwood. Yeah, but this is always one of my

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favorite Jets. Yeah, yeah, she's gonna come and rock.

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Speaker 4: Yeah in ironic in a park in erotic Quay.

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Speaker 1: Why do people have what? What good is going to

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come from saying. You know, you remember the old adage

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a job if I didn't have anything nice to say,

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you know, if I said it was nice stuff. But

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what's the point of that?

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Speaker 4: I think too, there's an assumption that like legacy acts

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is like synonymous with washed up. Yeah, and and sure

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like don't jet open the door for.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people. Man, you know that's the thing

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A little.

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Speaker 4: Respect she is not. I mean, she is fully on

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all cylinders, if not better in her like her band

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the Black Hearts. I mean it's like again, just come

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to the show and you'll see.

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Speaker 1: Well as a as a co sponsor. So I'm I'm

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assuming now right now it's it's in a great spot

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down by the lake in Eastman, Duran, Eastman Park. I

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got to think that not to get too far ahead

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of ourselves and we'll be all over the place in

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this conversation a little bit. But well, how do you

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see it like in five years, like the vibe and stuff,

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and you've got to go beyond this in your head.

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I gotta think, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean a little bit, but I'm like one I more

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I think that we just get through this year and

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see how Rochester responds. But I think Timy and I

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felt like there's this void in what we're creating. You know,

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it's like Rochester is a festival city, but there's no

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punk anything, you know it's like, but actual rock festival,

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there's nothing like it. There's not this whiskey tasting experience.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: So I'll know on Friday, that's when tickets go on.

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Speaker 1: Sales, tickets going and you can get the early bird

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but that the four day double ten three cigar or

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three day excuse me.

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Speaker 4: Three day, which is well, there's going to feel like

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four after all the well, no, I saw. It's funny.

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One of my things. I want to be the reason

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everyone in Rochester takes off of work on that Monday

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and the like. That's that's that's the goal. But it

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have to be a killer weekend. But the pricing, it

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is a good price, but it's like I've never seen

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anyone who had a first year and now second year

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festival get the amount of his sponsors that Tommy got.

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So we'll always throw out the names of sponsors because

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like they essentially are subsidizing ticket prices and allowing us

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to create this big, massive thing the first year without sponsors.

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Speaker 1: Who was supplying all the tents and stuff?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we ared a company out of Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: So all right, how does the pitch go to Irondequoit

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to say, hey, this is an idea we want and

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or how did you even find the spot? Maybe we

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should start there? Like So.

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Speaker 4: It's weird that like when we started like looking for spots,

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were we realized like with what we're trying to do,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Yeah, there's a lot of places in Rochester.

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Speaker 4: But nothing's fitting like this vibe of what we want

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right Like and I like, obviously like we've had a

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lot of luck with the Holiday Village downtown. It's a

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great event, yep, Parcel five, but like there's things about

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it that are limiting, particularly the number of people you

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can get.

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Speaker 1: In the right Highland Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I love Highland Bowl, Highland Park, but it's like, first

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of all, just doing work that's very It's an amazing park.

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Lilac Festival is an amazing event, but like it is

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very challenging to build that as a site and actually

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try to get more than a few thousand people in there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's a lot of your knowledge that you'll

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bring in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just because I've been you know what I mean,

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and really sit her and think about it, though, like

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think about it, you know. I'm like, Okay, the dome

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Marina parking lot, no, like you know, I'm just like

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And then I was like, hmmm, Octoberfest has not been

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a thing in Aroundequoys since twenty nineteen. And actually the

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idea started with I'm like, let me go check it out.

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And then I saw there's mass of soccer fields in

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the back, which I knew. My first question and we'll

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get into this later, would be can these soccer fields

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be used for parking? Because they are like solid, like

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it's actually just like two inches of dirt and then stone.

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It's there, solid fields. So I'm like, okay, we got

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this one area with all this infrastructure, there's just simple

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things like running water, even if it's only a few

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host bect's having a running water at a festival. I

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believe the power there for Octoberfest is eight hundred amps

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of Power. Okay, there's lodges, there's actual like brick and

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mortar bathrooms. They just put in like brand new bathrooms.

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So there's these things that a lot of other places

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aren't available, and that's kind of how it started. But

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my idea was, I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna

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go to the town of Roneicoid and say, we want

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to do this festival, but then why don't you piggyback

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on us and you can bring back Octoberfest. Was the idea.

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And then I found out who had to call, and

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I kind of presented it and they were interested right away,

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but they said, you know, for whatever reason, it's like

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Octoberfest kind of like it did its thing and ran

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its course. But they're like, but we're really excited about

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your event, and they're all in, you know what I mean.

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And they were all in to the point that they're

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giving us enough support that they're the title sponsor.

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Speaker 1: The town of Veronically Ironico. Okay, cool, yep, man, that's amazing. Yeah, well,

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it's an underutilized space. It's totally you're You're right. I

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don't even even know if Irish Fest happens anymore.

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Speaker 4: Nothing happens there now.

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Speaker 1: Why right, just since COVID, Just.

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Speaker 4: Since COVID, I think, you know, uh, COVID did a

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lot of good things for some people, some businesses, and

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it also killed a lot of things. I mean, you know,

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even in my industry. I you know a lot of

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businesses people were already like almost retired when COVID hit.

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There's like I'm done. Yeah, a lot of people just

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like close up shop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I think that producing events, the cost, especially for

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events that the entry was a low fee, if not free,

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everything's got too expensive everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So this, I think this is just such

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a cool to me. I feel like you keep talking

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about a vibe. What is the vibe because I'm looking

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at it. It's more that jam band hanging out. It

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has a vibe to it. You're right, but you're looking

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for space that matches that. What is that vibe to

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you in your How would you describe it?

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Speaker 4: I guess the vibes to me, which I would stick with,

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like Tommy's original vision, which is tagline would be cultivate

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the uncommon and unfortunately the uncommon these days are you

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know in the world of Amazon, Starbucks, Walmart, is actual

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just you know, handcrafted beer, which, by the way, we

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have a free beer tasting at the event. Really if

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you have a general mission ticket, it's free beer tasting.

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But local food, local craft makers. We're gonna have up

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to twenty craftmakers. It's all funky, local made trinkets, things

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that actually, Timmy, they do a craft show I think

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every quarter, and Iron Smoke and also just the whiskey

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makers like actual we actually some of the distillers are big,

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and that's really exciting, but there's also a lot of

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just smaller, small shops, especially out of New York State.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's really cool. Tommy's always been and I'm sure

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you will step right into this too, supportive of the

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local community, right in terms of he'll ask you to

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buy the whiskey if you like an Iron Smoke whiskey

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from a liquor store, because it helps the local liquor

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store owner instead of and he goes, I'll actually charge

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you more if you buy it from the distillery. So

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I always thought was like, I'm like, man, that is

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pretty cool. I think, yeah, it is right, and I

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love the idea of bringing everybody together with all these

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different there's something about that whole community and I don't

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know if you've been. I know you've been around a

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lot of these festivals and things like the beer tastings.

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There's something about that community where, you know, when I

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was in radio, it was is we did we wanted

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to attack the other guy. There were these street fights.

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I once had a when I worked at CMF, they

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had a bat light. We bought a bat light and

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it would beam the CMF logo. Right. And I'm twenty,

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I'm younger than my kids are, and I'm driving this

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mobile home rock and roll, and I go up to

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a Nerve event and I flash the light out a

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Nerve yeah right, right, So I'm just showing you, like, okay,

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So there was no togetherness. It was like we're against

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each other. Then I watched the beer industry and it's

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like a rising keg floats all kegs because these guys

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all help each other out, like, you know, hey, you

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need help bottling, we can cover your bottling if some

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a machine went down. I'm like, that's a totally different

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vibe and it seems to be one that is expanding

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beyond those industries now, you know, And that's what I love.

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And to me, this is just a cool. It's like

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a laid back, cool festival, which I think would be

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with the music and stuff you've got spanning generations, bringing

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families hanging out. I mean I really see that as

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is a really cool thing about it, right, you know,

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beyond then just there are certain festivals you're not going

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to bring your kids to and stuff, but this is

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one where you go, hey, man, you're going to love

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this music. I think so.

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Speaker 4: And not only that, like the way we're designing it,

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it's like the actual drinking experiences are separate. Yeah, I mean,

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it's like it's twenty one and over. It's not there's

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not a massive whiskey tasting you know, in the middle

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of like a nursery or you know what I mean.

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It's set to the side. But the exciting thing too

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is like, you know, kind of what you said is

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what we have in our mind, right, it can be

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a family event, all these things, but like the exciting

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thing right now actually is like we don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: We know what we think it's going to be, yeah,

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but we don't know what life it's going to take on.

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So we're in that like exciting, incubating phase of seeing

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where it goes when I started a company in two

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thousand and seven. But it's like I guess I say,

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I'm I'm kind of a sucker for the next adventure, right,

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So like once we've.

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Speaker 1: Like, do you say you're a risk taker? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you gotta be.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I gotta be on the edge. I gotta be

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like if this doesn't work, I might go bankrupt. Like

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that's a I don't know what. But then like when

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it gets really risky, I'm like, oh, this sucks, and

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then I get through it. Then I'm like, oh that

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was cool.

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Speaker 1: This worked.

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Speaker 4: It's worked, okay, good. Yeah, Like even McCarthy Tenson events.

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I mean we never like dreamed of it. I have

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eighty five year on employees now. I mean when I

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first started, eighty five what year round employees?

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought, I thought I heard eighty five hundred.

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I've wanted to be.

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Speaker 4: Five hundred year O yeah No, no, eighty five year

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round yeah, which I never, like, I never I thought

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ten fifteen maybe.

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Speaker 1: For a year round out of a ten company where

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we have long winters and.

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Speaker 4: Think about so the summer we blew into like one

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fifty seventy five. Yeah, So that kind of just I

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mean that kept doing its thing, but I've kind of

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just done these other little side things along the way.

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Speaker 1: One other little side things like I mean, well granted,

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like the hoochin Anny, but and and the holidays a

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lot of village.

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Speaker 4: Uh. We started right before COVID, me and two of

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the guys who worked with me. I want to give

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everyone an opportunity. So I'm like, I'm gonna start a new business.

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Who wants to buy in? And two people raise their

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hands and it was a restroom trailer company. Yeah, like

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really fancy, Like yeah, are those the ones I see it?

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Speaker 1: Like Bill's training camp and stuff? Their air conditioned.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which we'll have those for the VIPs at

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Hooch and any of course. Okay, but yeah, So we

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started that and we got through one season COVID hits

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and we're like ough. And then we started building a

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bunch of COVID test sites that needed not only tents

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but the restroom trailers. So then the rushroom Trailer company

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like just took off. And long story short, we did

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that and then we sold it last year you did

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ye to another local company, So that was cool. Uh,

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And I actually this is a random one I I'm

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a a franchise, ye, I guess. I'm a supplier of

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a product called Evolution Dome. They're inflatable event products based

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out of the UK, and I teamed up with them

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in twenty eighteen. So that's a separate company, Evolution Dome US,

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where we do these. It's indoor and also outdoor, like

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mainly for like trade shows or like yeah, cool activations

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like like like Porsche and Parish does these inflatables that

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our UK branch does that. So that's another thing on

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the side that one of my employees bought in, so

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we do that together. I'm actually going to Orlando to

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do a big job this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Are you the type of person that can let go?

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And when I say let go, it's like let somebody

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else do things? Or do you need to be kind

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of hands out? Because I was always hands on and

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I'm seeing if you want to grow, you got to

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let other people do other things.

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Speaker 4: So the answer to that currently is very much yes.

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It wasn't like that, like I have my hands and everything,

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you know, from like two thousand and seven to really

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like seventeen eighteen nineteen, like where like I knew what

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was happening every day, what jobs, deliveries here there, everything.

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But now it's like, I mean, my core guys are

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also people I've been friends with, like since way before

471
00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:20,319
you know, we started McCarthy tents and events. I'm definitely

472
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,000
in the last four years like, yeah, let let people

473
00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:27,200
do their things and trust them. I like, I remember

474
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,000
in twenty ten, I went to Hawaii where I was

475
00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:32,839
supposed to get engaged. I got engaged the day I

476
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:37,319
got home. That's another story for another day. But but

477
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,880
I was so stressed out when I went to Hawaii

478
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,640
and it was like October, so our season was already

479
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,079
winding down, and I was like calling on stop and

480
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,559
now like if I go to like Europe, now I

481
00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:50,920
see you, yeah, and I'm out and I don't like

482
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,920
and I won't hear from anyone, and let's something's going.

483
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: On, right, it was better not to know. Yeah, no

484
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:58,359
news is good news, correct, right?

485
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,599
Speaker 4: But I also feel like, I mean, in the path

486
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,200
I was on for a lot of years where I

487
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,880
was so like into it wouldn't have been sustainable, Like

488
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,799
it was like I still had fun, like I and

489
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:10,319
I honestly enjoyed working so much and I love doing

490
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,559
tents that like when I first started, other than in

491
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:16,799
the winter, I truly worked seven days a week, like

492
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,400
even up like when my kids were born in twenty

493
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,160
thirteen fifteen, Like I still in the summers, I work

494
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,960
seven days a week.

495
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Wow.

496
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: Always yeah, always, never stops.

497
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,519
Speaker 1: And you enjoy doing that.

498
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 4: I did enjoy doing which that's a new thing for

499
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,000
me too. Is I used to just when I left

500
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:36,079
the house in the morning was just go, go go work, work, work,

501
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,400
And I'm like, all right, I gotta like step back here.

502
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,039
Uh and then uh in the summer, I have a

503
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:46,480
habit of going to our Henrietta location more and going

504
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:46,960
on the road.

505
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh you like to go on the road. I did,

506
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,559
still set them up. I still go on the road.

507
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Last year, the workers nervous, No, okay, well because

508
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,279
ever I just a lot of people are like, oh,

509
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,720
you shouldn't be working in your business, be working on it,

510
00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:03,400
and I'm just like, you know what, I also work

511
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,200
on it. I feel pretty good about where it's at,

512
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:07,559
but like I need to see I want to be

513
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,720
in the mix and I want to like be with

514
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,920
my customers, and that's part of it.

515
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?

516
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Uh, in the winter, I have a habit of

517
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:21,400
going to our Webster warehouse more often, where this winter

518
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:25,559
I was honestly, this hou Chinani deal is like this

519
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,880
is it? Yeah? Yeah, But I think it was also

520
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,240
a product of once we bought No One's rental in

521
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,160
twenty twenty two, so there was so much work to

522
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,519
do to figure out just getting the companies together and

523
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,839
all that. But then like kind of once we got

524
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:41,440
through that, and it took two years to really let

525
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,000
the dust settle, and I was just kind of like.

526
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,559
Speaker 1: What next, Yeah, what next?

527
00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:49,799
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean so that's that's.

528
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: A uh no, the what next thing? But that's that's

529
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,319
a lot. So the the Hoochinani's gotta have taken most

530
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,839
of your attention throughout Yeah, for sure the holidays.

531
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, I mean once I'm like again, like

532
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:07,039
if I go somewhere like yeah, I'm kind of like

533
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,039
I don't think about watch now, Like if I got

534
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:12,720
to get on a call, I will if we're going

535
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,960
on vacation or whatever. But I think that once this

536
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,000
is built and and and we kind of prove ourselves

537
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,400
this first year, I think it's still gonna be a

538
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,240
lot of effort every year and kind of keep growing

539
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,960
it and see where it goes. But a lot of

540
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,400
the legwork is getting done this year where you kind

541
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,599
of figure out figure it all out, Like we're getting

542
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,079
through the big picture stuff now and it was exciting

543
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,519
for Tommy too, is like what's the fun like little

544
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:42,079
frilly like things we're gonna do or like doing, Like

545
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,400
we're trying to develop the who any side show where

546
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,839
it's like we already have all these cool things right

547
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,559
like food, whiskey, bands, all this, but then it's like,

548
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:52,079
but let's do a hoosh a side show where like

549
00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:54,160
a guy walking on still to a flamethrower, like all

550
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,640
these other things that that's.

551
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: All went to clown cup.

552
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's so like those are the the unknowns too,

553
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,119
where we're like it's already going to be memorable, but

554
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,680
how do we like take it even further? And all

555
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,720
this fun wild stuff happening too?

556
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,599
Speaker 1: What about Uh, I'll ask and I don't know, but

557
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,279
you think of things like the PGA they have volunteers,

558
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,640
do you are you looking for people because to pull

559
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,960
this off right in terms of yeah, yeah, parking and

560
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:25,920
I don't know.

561
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,319
Speaker 4: And people can write us through the website Okay, we've

562
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:29,920
already got a lot of volunteer inquiries.

563
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I am sure.

564
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,079
Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, obviously the Trade Office like

565
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,480
I love to volunteer, but I also like a free pass,

566
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:40,839
you know, understandable, but people can definitely reach out to us.

567
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:43,480
And that's also where we're still laying out like site

568
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:46,039
logistics of how many people are needed in all these

569
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:48,440
different spaces in for Lewis Water ticketing.

570
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a lot. Yeah, yeah, all right, but you

571
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,960
seem happy that you did it, yeah, or you're doing it.

572
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just excited to see what's going to happen next.

573
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think that that needs to be on

574
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,240
a T shirt Auto McCarthy t shirt. I'm excited to

575
00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:03,160
see what happens next.

576
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 4: Well, so the the LLC name because the DBA which's

577
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,319
doing business is Whoch, Nanni and Whiskey, but the LLC

578
00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:13,279
is but wait, there's more.

579
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:14,279
Speaker 2: I like that.

580
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 4: That's because my wife just like was next, but wait,

581
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,200
there's more LLC that.

582
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: Does she ever think I did? I wasn't. I wasn't

583
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,319
sure what I was signing up for, but I didn't

584
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:26,240
think it was gonna be all this.

585
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: I think she always is like, what's the next, Like

586
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:32,839
she definitely says to people like I've always just wondered

587
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,200
what he's going to do next.

588
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great thing. Yeah, and so

589
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:39,759
far it seems to have worked out. Yeah, better than

590
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:40,359
that I expect.

591
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:43,359
Speaker 4: I mean our first date, I picked her up. I

592
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,319
was shirtless and I wasn't wearing shoes. I don't know why. Yeah,

593
00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:47,680
I wasn't even like and I wasn't like a big

594
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,319
macho guy when I was younger, Like I didn't even

595
00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:51,240
work out when I was like twenty five years old,

596
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,599
and I took her on tours of like I worked

597
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:57,480
for another company at the time, and I took around

598
00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:59,599
like tours of like tents I set up around Rochester.

599
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:03,839
I swear to god, that was our first date. And

600
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,400
she was like, we gotta she's the thing. We're going

601
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,160
out to dinner and there's no dinner at the at

602
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,880
the end of the tour, we I'm like, let's go

603
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,799
to uh the Twelve Corners Convenience and Brighton and pick

604
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:16,839
up some Douce juice is a bud Lighters and drink

605
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,599
him and copsail.

606
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we did, and that's what you did.

607
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680
But no shirt, no shoes, you can't get in there.

608
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:23,680
She has to go to bus.

609
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:26,359
Speaker 4: It was all good. I think I walked in without

610
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:26,839
a shirt on.

611
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,799
Speaker 1: It really Wow, that's such a hippie vibe.

612
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:32,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm not even hippy.

613
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: No, I know you're not. And that's not really it's

614
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,599
not fair to say hippie vibe because I think hippie

615
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,640
gets a bad thing. But it is a very relaxed,

616
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:45,079
confident person. Not necessarily show off, I don't think that,

617
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,359
but confident and I and that's comfortable.

618
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean the summertime, I prefer like if

619
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,319
I'm at the lake, I'm like, no shirt, Like I

620
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,960
don't have a shirt on like ever, yeah, probably no shoes.

621
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what it is. Yeah, well maybe that's the

622
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,839
will that be the hoochin Anny outfit. No shirt, no shoes,

623
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:08,279
no problem. No, Sean has been a pleasure. Get to

624
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,400
hoochin Annie dot com. Get the tickets. They go on

625
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:13,039
sale Friday at noon.

626
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,319
Speaker 4: Right at noon.

627
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: Yep, that's this. That's the day after tomorrow, so that

628
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,160
would be March twenty eighth. Yep, March twenty eighth, in day. Yeah,

629
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,960
it is a big day.

630
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:21,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we think, you know, it's like we have

631
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,680
we have a good capacity at the park. But I

632
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,720
think some of the days, especially if they really resonate

633
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:27,920
with you, it's.

634
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:30,079
Speaker 1: What time does it all like the gates open and stuff.

635
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 4: That's a really good question. So just the way the

636
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,559
timing worked out, Friday and Sunday are two to ten, okay,

637
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,640
I joked. Sunday we have to open lakes. Everyone has

638
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920
to go to church to repent for what they did

639
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,400
the night before. At our festival, Saturdays noon to ten, okay,

640
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,799
So Saturday will be the big day. The world of

641
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:52,319
Whiskey is open till seven, I believe each day okay, ye,

642
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:56,480
same thing with free beer tasting. Obviously food vendors will

643
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:56,799
be open.

644
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,559
Speaker 1: Just those timings and all figuring all that out.

645
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's it's how much it's too much and

646
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,119
how much is too much also for the vendors that

647
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,240
are involved, you know what I mean, like what works

648
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:09,960
for what's the fine medium that will make everyone happy?

649
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,279
Speaker 1: I think this could become such a big thing. And

650
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:16,079
what I love about it is it helps the area,

651
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:21,720
right hotels, restaurants, even camp sites whatever that people are

652
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,160
going to go to to be at this.

653
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even our our our hotel sponsors INDUS

654
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:30,680
Hospitality Huns, the hampton In actually right over herend for

655
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,440
forty one Downtown hampton In and the Holiday and Express,

656
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,119
which but I mean we it's the Holiding Express is

657
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:39,519
pretty much sold out for the weekend because we have

658
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,279
to house all the bands. Yeah, and the vendors coming

659
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:46,319
in everything. So it's like but I think, all yeah,

660
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,160
the goal is for it to be good, even the

661
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,839
vendors coming in. I mean it's like our world of whiskey.

662
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:54,400
It's almost all outside vendors. So between those vendors, you know,

663
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,880
artisans coming in that travel around, food people, it's going

664
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,240
to be hundreds of people that will need accommodations, right,

665
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,880
and and plus.

666
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:04,599
Speaker 1: All the people coming to see the music and stuff, correct,

667
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,759
which is great. Get those tickets Hoochinanni dot com. And

668
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:12,319
if you need any kind of hospitality, tents or catering stuff,

669
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,359
it's all at McCarthy events. Right, I'm the guy. It's

670
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,200
all right there. It's a wonderful thing. And if someday

671
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:20,279
at hoo Chin Annie can bring in this guy, I

672
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:23,359
would love it. John Hyatt, all right, I love this song.

673
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,039
It's Tennessee plates. It's like it's a little tribute to

674
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:29,920
Elvis Sean. Thank you. I'm Bill Moran.

675
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:40,079
Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow. The hotail didn't know what to do.

676
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: You know what Leo's does. It makes life easier. Yeah,

677
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:47,799
I like to go in there. I'm a big fan

678
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:51,160
of Boar's head cold cuts. Leo's carries borshead cold cuts.

679
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,920
They have a grabbing go case so I don't have

680
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,519
to wait in line of the Delhi. They have prepackaged,

681
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,079
freshly half pounds of boarshead roastby Let's say I can

682
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:04,960
grab that half pound of cheese and I'm in line

683
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:07,640
and out the door. I probably grab some other things too,

684
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:10,599
like they're stuffed bread. I love Leo's stuff bread. Heat

685
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,359
that up. It's a great snack. It's a great snack

686
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,319
when the kids come home and they're hungry and all that.

687
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,640
And you know you got busy, busy lives right now,

688
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,599
maybe you need to grab some meals just to have

689
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,599
in the fridge. You can get everything from chicken, palm full, salads,

690
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,000
delicious kishas. It's all there and available to you at Leo's.

691
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,319
And of course you got to get the Canoli's. You

692
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:33,880
go to Leo's, you got it. You got to come

693
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,559
home with the cano. You don't come home with the Canoli's.

694
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,559
You're in trouble Leo's. What's the best thing about Leo's.

695
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,440
Everything on Deskbats Drive in East Rochester, open every day.

