Speaker 1: Made uh De, Saint John A Pace, Sonny sune On,
I had vision by night. What's up everybody, how y'all
doing doing okay, so far, so good.
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Speaker 1: Cast a character.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you guys so much. We so happy to
have your support. It's Friday.
Speaker 1: God knows what's happening going to be going on on Friday.
Speaker 2: Because we're recording this on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: And we're still in a high wind warning, in.
Speaker 2: A high wind we're in a fire warning. We're checking
our apps all the time. So but I hadn't told
you like what our little situation was. So I was
only evacuated. Well, I wasn't even officially evacuated. So I
don't want to be too dramatic, but what happened is
what happened.
Speaker 1: What happened.
Speaker 2: So Okay, I don't even remember what day this was,
but the like you were, you were evacuated already. You've
probably been evacuated for a day now. The Palisades fire,
you were involved in, the Eaton fire, we were. We
had a fire that happened like a couple called the
Kenneth Fire. Yes, Now, the Kenneth fire was I don't
want to say in my neighborhood, but it was in
the West Valley. So I'm in I'm in What's I'm
in the valley San Fernando Valley. I'm in the West Valley,
but I'm not as far west as the Kenneth fire was.
So that was the first thing that was like kind
of dangerous. Now also, and I'm sure this happened to
you as well, because it was all of LA At
one point, at like four in the morning, we got
an alarm to like get out now, and we were
like what the fuck? Yeah, it was like get ready
to go.
Speaker 1: We got a few of those false alarms.
Speaker 2: They were false alarms, right, Yeah, the city so.
Speaker 1: You got yours. I never got another one. Only when
I got in the middle.
Speaker 2: Of I got five of them.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: I got the one? Yes, we got one earlier that day.
My god, we got one at four in the morning,
which so okay. So four in the morning we get
an alarm and we were like, oh my god, what's
going on? But prior to that, okay, So John really
lost his mind during this, and of course I understand why,
of course I get it, you know, but he really
felt so out of control and just like I think, like,
how am I going to protect my family? And you know,
by the way, and I'm sorry for even asking this,
but did Adam at all call and go are you okay?
Are the kids? Is your hut? Are you evacuated? No? Okay,
No he didn't.
Speaker 1: No, I think he was talking to the kids. Oh
he was, yeah, okay, yeah, so you got like information
from the.
Speaker 2: Kids, okay. So yeah. So John was really really worried,
and he the winds were really high and the thing
was a new fires kept coming up. So even though
the Kenneth fire we weren't too close to it, John
was just like wanted all the kids home. So LB
kept saying like I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, And
UCLA was not evacuated and the fire was on the
other side of the four h five from her. But
you know that on the like my Bruin's parents app
Facebook group, you know, these bitches be crazy.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, I can imagine.
Speaker 2: Why isn't UCLA telling us what's going on? It's like, bitches,
calm down. They don't know either, like none of us
knew what was happening. They wanted they wanted UCLA to
be having this like complete place. UCLA was like, all right,
right now, air quality is good. We are not in
the path of the fire.
Speaker 1: They were back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people from the Palisades and from Santa Monica. People
were evacuating to Westwood, where UCLA is. They had set
up a huge evacuation center in Westwood because Westwood was safe, right,
But that's not going to stop these parents from being like,
how dare you you? U CLA. You're not keeping our kids?
Why are you not communicating every five seconds? Oh? It
was really annoying to watch. But then UCLA did say, hey,
we're first of all, we're canceling classes like whatever. Those
days were more because a lot of people are local
to the area. We're like losing their houses. So they
were like, we're not doing classes for the next couple
of days. This was so today's Tuesday. This was like
we're talking like Thursday Friday night. Then at some point
they were like, oh, maybe that was Tuesday, so maybe
like by Thursday. They were like, we're going to be
closed Thursday and Friday. At that point, kids started leaving
the school, so Elbie was like, might as well, I
might as well go home. Everybody's leaving. And then by
the time she left, everybody a lot of kids were leaving,
so that was probably fine. Then we found out that
they had school and also poor lb she was supposed
to be training for her tour guide job that Friday,
so they canceled school. So they were like, we're going
to move it to next Friday, and she'd been looking
forward to it for like the whole winter.
Speaker 1: Break guide job.
Speaker 2: Did I tell you she got the job as the
running tours for UCLA?
Speaker 1: Did you tell us that?
Speaker 2: Did I tell you guys that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, so backtrack, Lbe applied for a job as a
tour guide. It was a huge, big deal. I can't
believe I never said this on the podcast. So she
had to go through this huge application process, which she did.
Then they took some like half of those people got
a group interview, so she made it to the group
interview part. And then she then like a portion of
those people got to do a mock tour and they
sent them over like bullet points and they had to
basically write themselves a script and lead a fifteen minute tour,
which she did. And then she got the gig and
they had over three hundred applicants and they hired twenty
five w So she got this job that's like a
real job.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: So she gets to train, then she leads tours, then
she works a little bit in the office like answering phones.
That's amazing. Yeah, so if you go tour UCLA, you
may have my daughter LB's seeding your tour. So she
was so excited about it. And then the day was coming,
you know that she was going to be training her
first day of training, and there's going to be this
big party like with all the new trainees that Friday night.
So that got canceled. Then they moved it to the
next Friday, which is this Friday. But then on Friday,
they were like, we're going dark. We're online all next week.
So she's right now pretty bummed online. But you know,
I think what the problem is. It feels very COVIDY
for these kids.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: The lucky thing is it's only in Laws Angeles right now,
so it's not the world but to them, to us
in LA, everybody's walking around in masks. Lots of things
are canceled, lots of things are closed.
Speaker 1: I feel COVID.
Speaker 2: Yeah, schools, we're not sure when it's going to resoom.
Although my kids are back in school, they've been they
were back yesterday, okay, which I'm happy about because it
adds some normalcy to their lives. But anyway, so Elbie's home,
We're all home. John is freaking out. He doesn't want
people really leaving the house. We got this Kenneth fire
that we're waiting to see if it gets under control.
And then we've got your fire, which is nowhere near us,
and then the Palisades fire, which is pretty much nowhere
near us until until the Palisades fire, which is just
burning out of control, started moving up the hill basically
over towards the valley. It's freakin' far. It is. We
were all like wait, what, like we thought our danger.
So our phones start going off, right, we keep getting
these alerts from our watch duty app, and we're like, wait,
what is happening. So the night before that Albie had
wanted to go out, or maybe she did go. There
was like one calm night and then there was one
night that new fires kept starting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so just one quick thing.
Speaker 2: Before that, John had been like I don't want anybody
leaving the house. But I was like, dude, like we
can't just we can't just be all in the house
hunkered down, like we're not in any direct danger. But
John's like, new fires keep starting, new fires keep starting.
So I convinced him to let Xander go to his
girlfriend's house.
Speaker 3: Huh huh.
Speaker 2: So he goes to his girlfriend's house. Well, okay, hold
on the night before he really wanted to go to
his girlfriend's house, but we said no. And then that
night a fire started. Remember the fire that started in
Studio City. I meant to bring this up to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about the Studio City.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I meant to bring this up because you must
have been there.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was in Studio City. It was the next
night after we evacuated, and it.
Speaker 2: Was south of the boulevard, south of.
Speaker 1: The boulevard, it was near studio. It was in right
near you, right near me. Could see the fly, could
see the smoke and stuff. Everybody started calling. That's when
like Melissa was calling me, like dude, get the fuck
out of there, like just come to Manhattan Beach and
come to my house like, and I was like, no,
we're okay, bless you, kaylin. I was like no, I
think we're okay. Yeah. So the Studio City fire started
the second night we were in Studio City. So now
I have my neighbors who are telling me, in Studio City,
you should probably move your car outside of the apartment building.
This is the other thing, and said, so if we
power gets shut off, we don't, we can't. Your car
will be stuck inside of the building.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my god, are you kidding?
Because I had a car load of other stuff I
was bringing in from the car, so I had to
park it on the street around the block walk down
the thing. Son he helped me carry more stuff from
the street. Yeah, it was it was like, are you
kidding me? Now we're gonna get evacuated from Studio City.
Then I was like, I don't know where we're going, right, yeah, yeah,
yeah it was.
Speaker 2: It was so that fire starts up and John's like
basically like see, and then Xander's all worried about his girlfriend,
you know, and then we're watching that fire. But that
was the first fires that got put out pretty quickly. Yeah,
it was so we're like, okay, right, that got dealt with. Yeah,
which was kind of amazing because some of these other
fires were still burning out of control. Yes, Palisades is
going crazy eating fires going crazy. Oh. Then the Hurst
fire was just north of us, near Robin's neighborhood, so
Robin was in a set zone. She wasn't ever evacuated,
but she was like right below the fire. My friend
tam Uh was was like constantly she was in a
set zone, like constantly like about to get evacuated. That
fire was in Grant out of Hills, like a little
bit north of Granada Hills. Both of those friends live
in Granada Hills. So I was like I'm trafficking that
and watching their zones and I'm watching the kid. So
we're like in Encino surrounded by fires, right, It's all
around us, but we're pretty safe, right. The Kenneth fires
kind of at this point threatening Calabasas a little bit,
like so we're all going crazy and John is like,
nobody's leaving the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then the next day things had kind of calmed down,
so I was like, let the kids go and do something.
So Xander did go to his girlfriend's house, Elbie went
somewhere like then the very next day after that, Yeah,
we have this one really nice, calm day. It seems
like they're starting to get some stuff under control, like
we're like, okay, maybe we're good fucking next day, all
of a sudden, they're like, the Palisades fire is coming
up the hill pretty fast because fire travels quickly uphill.
All of a sudden, I'm starting to get texts from
all these people are you okay? People I haven't talked
to in a long time, Like what are you doing?
Are you evacuated? And I'm like what what? Nor then
if you turn on the news, they're like, hey, look
at Encino literally like this my neighborhood. They're showing the
streets of my neighborhood and they're like, this fire is
coming up the hill. When it starts, it's in the
Encino Hills. When it comes down the hill, gonna be
in your neighborhood. Yeah, so part of my brain was like, okay,
but it's it's gonna be hard. It's going to be
slower coming down the hill. It's not going to like
cross the freeway, right.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, is it Like, I mean, look
at what it did in Malibu and Palisades, Like yeah,
you just don't know, right.
Speaker 2: That fire, I don't know, was crossing big roadways. I
don't know if just some a little bit of cement
is gonna stop it. So I was like, okay, okay,
but we're probably okay, Like you know, well, let me.
Speaker 1: Ask you one question. What about this the Runyon fire?
Speaker 2: And oh so that was the other thing. Yeah, that
was the day before. That was the same day as
the Studio City fire. So my other co host, Cecily
Freaking God evacuated like that fire came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm teaching a class, so this was like Wednesday or Thursday.
I'm teaching. My phone's going off with like up there
like sunset fire, sunset fire, And I was like, wait
what Then I'm getting a text like Hey, there's this
new fire. I finished teaching. I look at my phone.
It's freaking Runyan Canyon. That's my friend lives at half
a block. Cecily lives a half a block from Runyon.
So now I'm like, freaking the fuck. I'm like, I
text Cly. I'm like, oh my god, are you okay.
She's like, I'm evacuated. I'll call you later. Then her
story is crazy. She told her story on our other podcast,
Board af But she saw the flames like behind her house,
like flames were right there.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: She she left. But they put out that fire kind
of quickly.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I'm by Laurel Canyon, right by Runyon. I
could have I saw like the one they were talking about,
that that fire. But then the next day I walk out,
I see this whole glow over the over the Ventura
Boulevard in the mountain.
Speaker 2: That was the Encino Hills. That that Hallisades fire though,
So that wasn't the Runion fire. Nope, that fire got
dealt with pretty quickly. No. The problem was that the
Palisades fire is this humongous fire had basically gone from
the ocean almost to the valley. So it was coming
up the hill. So they're like, and Sino, you're in trouble. Okay.
So we're watching the set zone of Get Ready to Evacuate,
and it literally came all the way to Ventura Boulevard
to our neighborhood. So you know how I'm always talking
about how my kids like to walk down to Michael's
and go to Chili's and target right there, that's where
that was in a set zone. So I'm like, okay,
So I'm talking to my brother and I was just like,
I mean, we're probably we might We're probably going to
need to evacuate, Like, I mean, the set zone is
about so okay. Every fifteen minutes, we're getting an alert
on our phone, like literally every fifteen minutes going there's
a new a new set zone. Check check check the
app for the newest zone. So it just kept it
just keeps coming forward until it gets to the Chili's
and now there's all these funny tiktoks of people going
like not my Chili's, Like do not come from my Chilies?
Like we can rebuild, but not Chili's. Like everybody loves that.
Everybody loves Chili's for some reason. So I'm like oh
my god, it's at Chili's. So I'm like laying in bed,
heart pounding. I'm like, okay, but but let's be reasonable.
We're not in an evacuation zone and we're not even
in an official set zone. But also I'm thinking about
the fact that the day before Cecily didn't get time
to set, like it was just like, go get the
fuck out, get your shit and get out. And she left.
She told me she left with no bra, the clothes
on her back and her dog and medication and that's it,
you know. So I'm like, I don't want that to
be us. So I'm saying to John, now I'm the
one who's kind of panicking. I'm like, we should pack,
you know. He's like, okay, let's pack. So we pack.
But again, not in a even a set zone yet.
I call my friend Cecily, my other friend Cecily, you mom,
Cecily mom group, and I'm like, she lives near me.
None of my neighbors are leaving by the way. I
call my friend Cecily. She's like, I don't think it's
going to cross the freeway. And I'm like, okay, but.
Speaker 1: What if it does?
Speaker 2: I know it did burn up several neighborhoods and she's like, yeah,
but we're really urban and we're in the flats and
blah blah blah. And I'm like, okay, okay, that's true.
But then I've got literally other people that are like
what are you doing? Just leave, like why would you
risk it? And now it's getting later. Now it's like
ninety Hal's thing, and now it's it's like, like I said,
it's Adventure Boulevard.
Speaker 1: Well, so also, you don't want your power to go
out and then have to evacuate, like you know, like
right in the dar.
Speaker 2: So then there are all these news stories about like
the street near my house, haven Hurst, being like totally traffic. Huh,
there's not a ton of roots out to go to
Santa Clarita, right, which is where my brother lives. So
basically we just made a call because it was now
it's like ten, So I I'm talking to my brother
and he's got like younger kids, you know. So I
was like, Okay, we're probably going to need to come,
and he's like, then you should just come, like because
what are you going to do? Wait until like you
did until three in the morning, and then you're told
to just leave and then it's a shit show. So
I was like, okay, so we all packed up our stuff.
We packed and at this point, now I have time
and I'm like this threat is for real. So I
packed up a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: That's hard, Like you're like what, you don't know what
you're packing. You don't know for how long you're packing for,
you know, just like what do you bring?
Speaker 2: So like we're all bringing our computers. But I was like,
should I bring my road caster? I said to John.
And then he's like, well, that might be the least
of our worries if the house burns down, is like
when you're doing your next podcast. I was like, yeah,
that's true, and he goes, so chances are our house
is not going to burn down. So I say leave
the roadcaster. Like by the time we unwire everything and
then have to wire it back up. So I was like, okay,
so we leave the road caster, but I we all
take our computers, electronics, the kids take their guitars, but
no amps. It's like we're not you know. We load
up all three cars, so my car are two cars,
and then LB loads up her car and then we
just like uh, swingers style or what's the other movie
where they're all following each other caravan. Yeah, we all caravan,
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Speaker 2: All right, So okay, so we are going to caravan
bring in our stuff. I feel like I was going
to say something. Oh yeah. So we get in the
car and we put in the you know, the map thing,
and it gives us some roots. And one of the
roots is like an hour and a half to his house. Now,
this shouldn't this shouldn't take us longer than like thirty minutes,
especially with no traffic. Right, but they're saying that the
route that we want to take could be conflicted with
the Hurst Fire, which is the one that's north of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now.
Speaker 2: We're already freaking out a little bit. You know. I
don't want to say we're fully panicked, but we're like,
oh my god, we right, all of our belongings are
in the car, and now it's like we might we
might not be able to get there because of the fire.
So I was like starting to just my brain was going, Okay,
maybe we should just go to Robin's house. I didn't
really want to show up at Robin's house though, with
all five of us and our dog, even though she
totally offered Robin, I love you. She totally was like
to come to me. You know, people will be happy here.
We can have you guys here, which is great, but
also it just seemed easier to go to my brother's.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, I mean my brother right yeah.
Speaker 2: And he was telling us too. So anyway, we were
just like, you know what, fuck it. If the roads,
if the five was closed, we would have heard about that. Yeah,
So I was like, I think we just go, We
just risk it. But I didn't know what we were
going to run into. I was like, are we going
to see flames on the side of.
Speaker 1: The freeway, Like, you know, I know.
Speaker 2: It was weird feeling and eerie feeling here, but nothing
was bad. Everything was fine. So we get to my
brother's house and like.
Speaker 1: We you know, so it didn't reroute you or anything.
Speaker 2: No, No, it was totally fine. It was a like
that was kind of a false alarm that then on
the way back, Elbie was like, why does Why is
my app telling me that it's going to take two
hours to get home. I was like, I don't because
they're re routing you. You're just gonna just ignore it,
like these people are overreacting. Our GPS is overreacting down
no fire problem. So it was so we get there
and then we're just watching the news because we're like, wait,
I mean we were like, any minute now, our neighborhood
is going to get evacuated because it was coming up. Yes,
I know, they stopped that fire on the ridge at
Mulholland somehow miraculously they put down all this flame retardant
and they were dumping water on it and they didn't
let it come down the mountain if it had. It's
very It's literally a few streets and then it's like
avaturablevard right, and then we're screwed our.
Speaker 1: Whole It was smart that you got out because you
never I mean, yes, it could have came that way,
and also again like that. You don't want to be
evacuating in the dark with no power, that's what it's
that's the worst, right, you know.
Speaker 2: So the only thing that happened was just like this
little funny story involving Pepo. So everything's fine. We all
go to sleep. We're very nervous. We're up late, like
all of us on our phones, all of us checking
the news. John was dead tired. By the way, John,
for two days, very heroically freaking made a perimeter on
our house. He cut all of the trees and all
of the shrubs around our house to clear I mean
he filled up I think all told. He filled up
like fifteen barrels because it took like too he used
neighbors barrels because we had all these trees growing like
they were over our roof. He cut it all down
and raked and swept and like cut stuff in our backyard.
So they cleared it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, created these mud.
Speaker 2: Holes, like these areas with just mud, which I guess
you're supposed to do to protect our house. It was like,
that's crazy, he's dead tired. You've been doing that for
like six hours, right straight, right, and the day before,
so he was so tired he fell asleep in their
guest room just watching the news. So we're all tense.
I wake up. I fell asleep at like two in
the morning. Woke up at six, you know, like grab
my phone to see, like, is my house still there?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: People starts whining to go for a walk. So I
walk outside my brother's house out front. I I don't,
you know, I don't normally walk her in his neighborhood,
you know. So I go to my left and there's
like one house next door, and she like bypasses that,
and then the very next house after that, so two
houses down is just like their lawn is AstroTurf, and
she squats down to take a piece on their like
lawn strip which is AstroTurf, and a guy comes out
from in front of I couldn't see him from the
sidewalk because he was there was like a water and
power truck there, and he walks around the outside and
he goes, oh wow, great, he's like just letting your
dog pee on my astro turf. Well that now I've
got to go wash it off because that's gonna smell.
And he's so mad, like he like, I'm making it
sound just stern, but he was like pissed. So I
was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I said, now,
this was probably maybe not my best move. I might
have sounded dumb and I was just lying, but I
was like, is oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: That was astro turf.
Speaker 2: It's so lifelike.
Speaker 1: They do make it look really they do.
Speaker 2: And it was. It was pretty realistic looking. But there's
a lot of houses have it in my neighborhood, so
I could kind to tell. So I was like, and
he goes, yeah, it's astro turf, like you fucking dumbass,
and I was like, oh my gosh, I am so
so sorry. I said, I can I rinse it off
for you? Like do you do you have a hose?
And he goes just I and so he marches up
to his hose, gets his hose like I'm still I'm
kind of standing there not knowing what to do, and
he super dramatically like gets his hose and starts like
hosing it off and I go, let me do it,
like I can do it, and he's like, just go
on your walk and I go, okay, okay, I'm so sorry.
So now I'm also thinking, I'm like, oh my god,
what if my brother's like really like, what if that's
their name? Like they're two doors down neighbor like, and
this is like it's like a new community. It's in Valencia,
and it's like all these houses that are kind of
the same, you know, it's a development, yeah, right, yeah,
it's a community. So I'm like, oh god. So I
go in the house after and I'm like, hey, so
your neighbor like two doors down that way, and she goes, oh, yeah,
that guy's a fucking apple. And I was like, oh, well,
then I'll let me tell you. And I tell her
and she's like, oh my god, people have moved from
our neighborhood because of that guy. She's like, I wish
people took a shit on his lawnch she was like,
fuck that guy. My sister in law's.
Speaker 1: Very funny from New Jersey.
Speaker 2: But she was and she's not normally like that, she's
very professional type of person kind of, but she was like,
oh my god, we cannot stand him. He's a bully
and he is racist. And then she told me this
story about how they were this other family that that
is my sister, my sister in law, brother's friend was
selling their house, and there was the the real estate
agent was from India and the and had like a
kid with her from and the family that was coming
to get the house was from India and had a
young girl with them, and that that guy started going
out just get out, was playing music super loud, like
crazy music and being really loud and screaming, and then
when they go to leave, he started going, get the
fuck out of here. We don't want your kind oh yes, yes. Wow.
Apparently the guy whose house it was that they were
trying to sell, went to that guy's house and was like,
I guess, I mean, I'll say it doesn't matter. It's
Andrew was like, Andrew, get out here, you fucking asshole,
get out here. I want to talk to you. And
he wouldn't come out of the house. Wow. Yeah. And
it was like a whole thing with all the neighbors.
They were all mad at that guy and they're like,
you raise this piece of shit and you don't belong
in our neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You get out of here, get the fuck out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, that's who yelled at me, That's that's
who got mad at me.
Speaker 1: On her walk. I thought it was real grass.
Speaker 2: And for a minute I wanted to be like, Okay,
I almost was going to say like, hey, I don't
live here, like I'm just I'm just here from La.
I'm just visiting my do you are you friends with?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: But then I didn't want to throw that. I didn't
want to get them in trouble, right, so that then
I didn't know I could have been friends. I didn't
want him to be like, the fuck is with your sister? Yeah,
coming out here letting her dog be on my astro
to right, you know. So that happened. So then the
next day we look at the app and nothing has
come any further. Yes, And I'm on a group text
with a bunch of my neighbors and yet none of
them left. So I was like, was I being dramatic? Now?
Speaker 1: I would have rather like just gone and just you know,
just gotten it out of the way and get like
a good night's sleep if I you know, I don't
know what I was thinking the night before, Like you know,
we just don't know, you know, especially like living in
La with all these like I said, with all these fires,
you're kind of used to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but i'd seen you being evacuated, and now I'd
had Cecily's evacuation story, so I was like, well, I'm next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then of course.
Speaker 2: You get that horrible feeling where you're like, the entire
city is burning down right because it's coming and I'm
in the middle of all these fires and I was
like surround it, and I'm like, how did this fire
get from freaking Palisades to the valley. That's crazy. I
was crying at one point. I was just like, oh
my god, the whole city is going to be burned.
Speaker 1: I know exact and it's very sad.
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole Palisades neighborhood got burned, and now
your whole Alta Dina got burned. And I was like,
but thank god, these firefighters are stopping it. They've stopped
it from hitting any other neighborhoods. So far, so far,
so far, knock on Wood. Today is still Tuesday, yeah,
and we're in danger until tomorrow. But when you're listening
to this, you'll.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was terrifying. I
have a funny story too, but what should we take
a break or not yet? Okay, just remember when I
went to Chicago and we did the White Elephant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, your flashlight.
Speaker 1: My flash light came in handy. That motherfucker was the
best thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1: For that flashlight. That thing saved us.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: First, I have these lanterns and I have batteries. All
they're powered up because we're so used to power outages
at the other house we used to live at. Uh huh,
So I have those, and I have a huge flashlight
next to my I already have like flashlight next to
my bed. There's one in the kitchen. But uh, I
had the lantern, you know. And I'm in my closet
like packing to evacuate, and my suitcase was still My
suitcase was still there and from Chicago that I unpacked
and I put like the Christmas gifts that we got,
like on a shelf in my closet. I looked to
the shelf and there's this the flashlight. I was like, no,
way I get to like, way I get this box
cutters out because you know those fucking things like trying
to break into fort knock, like cutting your hands trying
to get the thing open and so like like ripping
it apart and get it open, and the thing already
has batteries and it's so the body of the flashlight
is not is also a flashlight. So there's the head
of the flashlight. But then the body you can click
and it can go red flaring and like blink, or
you can click it again and it can go white light.
And that white light lit up my whole living room
and kitchen like I just sat that flashlight and it
took care of like we had.
Speaker 2: Who knew that that really was a seventy five dollars
flashlight right.
Speaker 1: That fucking thing game in Andy. It's like, oh, thank God,
God bless this flash Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I literally need that flashlight now.
You should.
Speaker 1: Everybody should have one. I'll take that flashlight over than
of the face mask any day for that fuck the
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Speaker 2: Now back to a little normalcy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched Natalia Grace.
Speaker 2: I watched watch it. I watched all four episodes. Me too.
Speaker 1: That was the one first thing I went to when
I got Wi Fi. It was so good. Yeah, it
was good. I did like it. I did like it.
Speaker 2: Twists and turns, man, oh my god, and should we
I mean spoiler alert. It turns out Natalia Grace is
not is the reliable narrator in all this. I know
she doesn't. She has which I called in the first place.
She has that radical attachment disorder.
Speaker 1: She's traumatized, Yes, she's been traumatized.
Speaker 2: Freaking crazy people though. The Man's is the Man's the
family that we all thought like, oh my god, these
sweet people that took her in, No they're crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh. The Man's is the last family that had her.
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh, I know.
Speaker 2: It saved her, that brought her off the street.
Speaker 1: To tell that they were the money the whole time.
I know, I out like they were shysters. When I
first remember there was one one season where she was
taking her shopping with her with her SSI and shirt money.
You know, she was taking her to the storage like
I'm taking care of her. That shit just seems like trouble.
That mom, the man's mom. She just seems like I
just feel like they were just totally taking advantage of
her and what and her.
Speaker 2: I just also didn't like her speaking in like black
voice the whole time, like, you know, it gave me
the vibes of that who's that woman that identified as black?
Oh Rachel, yeah, anziel or yeah, was all yes, It
kind of gave me that that vibe right where I
was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I know it is with that right, yes, she was
like yeah. That family just seemed and all their like
the kids that they adopted and stuff. It seems like
a lot for two.
Speaker 2: People taking all their money, right, that's literally how they
made a living. She got bitch, spent all of Natalia
Grace's money.
Speaker 1: That was horrible. They bought that house or mobile.
Speaker 2: Home also, and fast forward if you don't want to
spoiler alert on this, but so so, Natalia Grace meets
a guy online in like England. Yeah, and you're like,
well that's going to turn out really badly, right, Yeah. No,
he's actually the one time, the one story were going
to go visit him and you're like, no, don't go
to England and visit this guy. And her parents, her
parents that she her new parents that she's with her
Like no, I don't know if that's a good idea.
She's like, ah, I'm doing it. I'm twenty years old.
I'm doing it. And it's like, oh, he was really nice.
She had a great time, Like.
Speaker 1: What I know, And how about that family that took
her the the what were their names?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the little people but what were their names? The
de Lucas or I don't know they were they they
I thought it was so funny that the mom was
like she could hear her in her room, like having
crazy boyfriend show and she's like and I'm half deaf.
I mean like she goes, I wear a hearing aid.
So you got to imagine how loud that shit was.
And she was like, God, you go, girl, but keep
it down. I loved her.
Speaker 2: She was the cool She was cool, like she was.
Speaker 1: The one like thank god, somebody, you know, she must
have felt so when she first got there to that
house that because they're little people that their house is
you know, constructed for their needs. Poor Natalian grace, she's
been living, you know, with with people that are you know,
regular height or whatever. She goes and moves into this,
she must have felt like, oh, thank God, like I
can reach the sink, you know, you know what I mean,
Like she had her every day. That must have felt good.
But then people couldn't figure out like if she was
brainwashed or if she was hiding some thing, like she
kept sticking up for the Manses, you know, right, and.
Speaker 2: She was majorly brainwashed by them. Yeah, it's Stockholm syndrome too.
Like she lived with them for ten years, you know,
and they grabbed her out of living in an apartment
by herself. Traumatized. They just in and she probably did
have a ton of behavior issues. She was a young
girl at that time, like probably thirteen, living by herself
in an apartment and had been for a couple of
years in a bad part of town. Yeah, because they'd
read aged her. I mean, she was living in her
own apartment when she was like eight years old, ten
years old or girl, I know, So of course she
had crazy behavior problems and acted weird and was like
unsocialized and like because that radical attachment disorder is the
thing that we talked about years ago with that Lifetime
movie with the little girl who was like putting pins
in the dog. Remember that movie. Oh, it's about this
little girl who was like try to kill her parents,
came in their room with knives, which I think, which
does happen. You can become like sociopathic from the trauma,
right and developed that like you just don't have any
feelings or a conscience. Yeah, but that is and you
can have that. Do you remember we talked about this
because in that movie, which was a true story, that
girl had went and had like that controversial holding therapy
where the mom had to move out of the house
with the girl and like hold.
Speaker 1: Her older and still on Oprah. Weren't they like I remember, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, So look they're still trying to work with this
kind of thing that happens to kids with this rad disorder.
And Italian Grace certainly had it had a lot of
personality things where like don't give a fuck, yea like
gonna act however I want and if you don't like it,
I don't care, but she does. She didn't do any
of the things I don't believe. And she was probably
sexually abused. She was, and that was actually acting at
the institution, like coming on to yeah men. Yeah, but
like they all took it as like, oh my god,
she's evil. No, she was traumatized.
Speaker 1: I know, I knew. I really. I was just happy
that she got a happy ending finally, finally, this poor girl,
of everything she's been through. And I hope she gets
her surgery because you see how her body is shaped,
and you feel bad for her because you look at
their teenage daughter and the mom and they've had the
surgery necessary. You could once they pointed out the surgery,
then you see it on Natalia, like you could see
how she could use it because her like she could.
Speaker 2: I could see she bent over to the side.
Speaker 1: I know, this poor girl.
Speaker 2: I know, she seems honestly really cool. She does like
her I know. I agree, you get her on the show,
that would be great. She could at least zoom in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I was always on her side. I
just want to say, from the first one, I was like,
this girl is not an adult. There's no possible way.
And I still love that Beth Carris, I love Yeah.
John was watching it with me. He's like, what's with her?
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, what did he say?
Speaker 2: He just kept saying, I don't understand what her purpose is.
I'm like, because she's been the one who's pointing out
the truth since episode one, or like a couple episodes in.
She's like, guys, she's not an adult. She has baby teeth. Yes, yes,
here are the facts. Yeah, this is why it's not possible.
They got some scammy doctor to say she was older. Right,
he even examined her, right right. Yeah, they're like, ah,
she's her period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I like her. I think that she's And
now they're doing the other stuff, the Curious Cases of
the Cat Ladies or the cat called Did you see that? No,
you haven't seen the trailer. It's out. Now they're doing
the Curious Case of and there's four different stories. There's
a cat cult story, the Curious case of Bam Margera,
the guy from who.
Speaker 2: Went nuts from Johnny Knoxville.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah him. There's the Curious Case of the Mom,
the Mormon mom who went to jail, those two Ruby Frank. Yeah,
there's four. I think four or five different ones and
they just started. Yeah, they just started. Yeah. I saw
the trailer for it right before the show started. Yeah.
So yeah, they're doing so you'll see more of Beth.
That Beth woman.
Speaker 2: She's gonna be oh good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I hear her voice on podcasts sometimes she's on some
of those investigative podcasts.
Speaker 1: She's rings, yeah.
Speaker 2: Some of them. And I can't remember what She's.
Speaker 1: Been around for a long time. I remember way back
when I was watching Nancy Grace with the Top Mom.
She was one of the correspondents, and Nancy Grace would
yell at her, just give me the details. I don't
need to hear all that. Just get to them, spit
it out.
Speaker 3: Beth.
Speaker 1: I always felt bad for her. I'm like, tell her
to shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: She's tough. I like her. Yeah, not Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Beth, Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: Another thing I watched that I was like, I cannot
wait to discuss this when we're done talking about fires
was the Jerry Springer documentary.
Speaker 1: I watched that.
Speaker 2: Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Wasn't that fascinating?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: It was? It was it? Really? Did you see that, Caitlin, Yeah, no,
he didn't get us. No, he split busy watching his
dorky movies, sci fi movies.
Speaker 2: Okay, the Jerry Springer documentary is co razy. First of all,
what you didn't know is that there was a freaking
murder that happened because of everything. I got that Jenny
Jones thing right where the guy where they someone has
a crush on you and it was a guy, And
then that I murdered the other guy. Everybody knows about that.
It was a huge problem for the Jenny Jones show.
They got fully investigated.
Speaker 1: Hey, nobody know anything about me murder right right? Because
the Jerry Springer that I watched that I was like
falling asleep.
Speaker 2: Okay, there was a love triangle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I finished it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, first of all, all the good stuff happens
in like the second half. You find out that the
the reason that Jerry Springer show was so crazy was
because they brought in this guy that was like from
the National Inquirer. Yeah, he was from tabloids and he
his thing was like a lady falls in love with
Bigfoot and has his baby and he's like, yeah, none
of it was true. But like people like to read
that stuff, so he became the executive producer of Jerry
Springer was like, look, this show sucks. It's really boring.
It's just a news show. But like let me inject
my like yeah, if we have like somebody who's married
to Bigfoot, like let's do some of that. And Jerry
was like, I don't know, and he's like, look, you
gotta trust me on the EP. This is what's gonna
make people watch. So Jerry's like, well, all right, let's
give it a try. For out of the gate, they
start getting like crazy guests, there's fights, all the stuff happens.
Once the fights start, then then every show had to
have a fight. Right now. I John has a talk
show background. He's worked on talk shows, so he's told
me about those sleeping on the couch, like staying there
for six days in a row in the office, you know,
sleeping there, the pressure of coming up with stories, having
a guest that you've just gotten insecure, and then they
cancel it the last minute and you got to get
another guest fired. Yeah, you know, and everybody knows that.
Like Doctor Phil that show was first starting up, like
somebody a producer died at.
Speaker 1: His desk, really yep, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk shows are just because they're stripped.
Speaker 1: You know, are like five days a week. You know,
you got you got to come up with stories every
single day. People could cancel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, started to do even better. This show,
you know, does as well as Oprah. And then these
people are fucked because now you got it, every show
has to be at the level that right. So the
one producer who was on there, did you get to
the This was in the first episode about he brought
on a guy who had married his horse.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god almost and then and he.
Speaker 2: Was almost scared to pitch it to his boss to
that guy, Richard because he's like Richard Dominic or something
because he's and the guy's like, I love it. What
are we going to get the horse on? And he's
like he yeah, I guess. So, so they bring the
horse out and the whole audience is like, ah, They're
like this guy, let's bring out his wife, and everybody's
freaking right posting the Shetland ponent. Yes, god, so that
was hilarious. Okay, well, so now they're at like the
height and they're bringing on all these people and they
bring on this three this triangle where was this woman
was married to this guy for a lot of years
and then he was cheating on her all the time.
So they break up. He marries somebody else, but then
she thinks that they're going to come back on the
show because he wants to get back together with her
because he's been playing them both right, Okay, So they
come out there on the stage and you know, and
she's this woman is very calm, she's just like The
guy comes out and he's like, yeah, I know I
told you that I was still into you, but I'm not.
I love her. And then he like goes and makes
out with her and right in front of the other woman,
and she's like okay, fuck you here bye, and she
leaves and they're like, if you don't come back, you're
we're not going to pay for your flight home. And
she's like, I don't care. This is humiliating. She never
lost her temper, she never did anything. She was like, okay, whatever.
So she leaves. And then and then apparently when the
show aired, the guy was watching by a bar, yes,
and and all these people in the bar were like,
oh my god, like that's you and I don't know,
but something snapped in this guy. He's obviously a weirdo.
And then he was like, I'm gonna kill that bitch.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And then he murdered her. It was the day the
show aired.
Speaker 1: The day the show aired, he killed her.
Speaker 2: Yes, he left.
Speaker 1: Jack ass, made a jack ass out of himself. I know,
why did he make take it out on her?
Speaker 2: Because he's crazy?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then they went they were going to investigate
all the they were going to subpoena of the producers,
but the guy, our tabloid guy, flew everybody to like
Hawaii or the Bahamas somewhere. They couldn't subpoena them.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the the Jerry Springer Shows never been in
any trouble for that whole thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I know, how does that work? Flew
them to and then they couldn't subpeen them. That's weird.
Speaker 2: I know. It's a good documentary. It was.
Speaker 1: It was really good. I think I fell asleep and
missed the end. And then you know what Netflix does,
It's like things fit. You watched it, so it's like
goes away and then the next day was a blur.
It was like in the middle of fire. Shit, yeah,
I forgot about it. Yeah, because I watched it when
I was like, you know, in between places when I
got to the condo, like so yeah, wow.
Speaker 2: Mine was all post all my TV watching was like
calming myself down before everything had sort of passed. Was like, okay, yeah,
let me watch some shows, right, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was the first thing I watched was Nancy
or Natalia Grace's story when I got wi Fi.
Speaker 2: Oh, did you watch anything anything else?
Speaker 1: Not this last week? No? Oh I did try and
started watching I want to watch Traders. Are you watching that? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, I've heard it's good though.
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. I love it. Okay, yeah, it's
really good. You never watched Trader?
Speaker 2: And Derinda is on it right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know I hate her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta watch it.
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, is it done?
Speaker 1: No, there's only like the first three they dropped, so
it keeps going. It just came out Okay, Yeah, I
like it. I think it's really fun because you get
all these different like even if you don't know who
they are. They're like people from the Challenge and Big
Brother that I don't know, but but you know, you
get to know them. And then there's a lot of housewives,
a lot of Bravo people, people from like, uh, Summer
House and stuff like that. Yeah, so it's good. Bachelor Okay,
Wells from Bachelor and Paradise is Yeah. I like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was always nice.
Speaker 1: Boston rob My go he's on it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that guy's made a whole career out
of it.
Speaker 1: Just keep going, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, any Snookie or Jen No, no.
Speaker 1: No Jersey Shore people. No, but like Derinda Dolores from
New Jersey. There's a Summer House girl, Sierra I think
or whatever her name. I don't watch Summerhouse. There's a
couple Bachelor people from the Bachelor and Bachelorette. But yeah,
it's good. I like it all right. Alan Cummings is
awesome as the host. He's great.
Speaker 2: I like him.
Speaker 1: Oh he's so good. Yeah, it's really good. It's fun.
It's a fun show.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen this movie that he was in
with Jennifer Jason Lee called The Anniversary Party?
Speaker 1: I remember that, but no, I'm not an Indy, but
I think you'd really like it.
Speaker 2: Really, it's very las about these La these couples in
LA that are having a party and just like Chico Sideways.
Speaker 1: Really have you ever seen that King Unniversary party?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Have you seen anything on TV? Or the movie?
Speaker 3: Or I started watching a new kind of like horror
TV show what I've been hearing a lot?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So, yeah?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: It's called From. It's about a town where like people,
once they're in it, they can't leave and at night,
like these beings, if they don't, like, if they leave
their windows open at night, the beings will come in
and kill them and their whole families. So it's been
pretty good so far. It's on MGM, but you get
it on Amazon. I watch it on Amazon, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You might have to be subscribed to like the MGM.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: I steal you have all these weird apps that you
watch these movies on. I do.
Speaker 2: It's called From Yeah, okay, okay, like f R O
M okay, but we have to have the MGM app.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Again, I steal someone else's Amazon and they like get
all the subscriptions to all the things.
Speaker 2: So so if I have Amazon Prime, I don't watch it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You might like the MGM subscription part or you might
be able to just watch it on Amazon. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Do you watch a lot of stuff on Amazon Prime.
I feel like I don't. I never go on there.
Speaker 2: I really don't, Yeah, but I maybe I will. I
feel like a lot of these networks are these apps.
They suck you in with like one show, but then
they never have anything else.
Speaker 3: Oh, I also started watching Silo. You watched that show, right? Yes, yes,
I'm into that show as well.
Speaker 1: Right now. That's that's good. It's season two good. I
haven't started yet.
Speaker 3: I'm like halfway through season one.
Speaker 1: Season one is good. Silo. It's on Apple TV. It's
sci fi and I liked it. Okay, it's not like
geeky sci fi. It's more like, you know, I don't know,
they live in the Silo. It's kind of hard to explain,
but yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2: It's like I like sci fi when it's like Twilight Zone,
Black Mirror.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: I loved me some Black Mirror. Yeah, but that kind
of fell off a cliff, like the last season was
just like what Yeah, Yeah, nothing was as good as
the first season. The first two seasons were pretty good, yeah,
and then the next season was a little hit or miss,
and they didn't have as many episodes, and then the
last season was just like, that was a waste of
my time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a waste of my time.
Speaker 2: So waste of my time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when does Sunny go back to school.
Speaker 1: The twenty second Oh not for a while.
Speaker 2: That's a super long break.
Speaker 1: I guess because they're like a community college. I guess
because the other kids went back already.
Speaker 2: Okay at the Universe, because maybe there was a whole
winter session that he just didn't although when Elfie was
at Pierce they were only off. The winter session was
just all of December. All of December, I think maybe
all of j I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
all right, Well, I'm glad we got to catch everybody up,
and I have a few more shouts, but I'm going
to reiterate Cross LA absolutely if anybody wants to help there,
and also ASPCA and Best Friends Animal Society. Those are
three places that you can help right now if you
want to. And then I just have a few more
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