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you win your fantasy hockey league.

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Speaker 2: Block off hot a step hit on staylock Blocks.

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Speaker 3: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier and Victor Nunio.

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Speaker 4: Get to see hockey.

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Speaker 5: Live back once again. Jesse Severe joining you from Fan

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Tracks and folks. Victor nuno You'll be hearing him a

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lot on this episode, but not just at this moment,

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because what happens here is we had so much draft questions,

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we had so much draft talk to get through that

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we split our talk into another part that is coming

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out today. So there are three Draft Tastic series episodes.

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A week ago you heard Draft Tastic one, which was

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audio from the draft and as well as interviews with

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many other prospect content creators. Episode two last Sunday you

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heard the first half of Victor and I going through

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a lot of questions as well as a little bit

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more audio from the draft, and today also some of

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those prospect blurbs from the draft and questions from the patrons,

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but also some of the ways that Victor's top rankings

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are a little different from maybe the the run of

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the mill or. It's a little bit different anyway from

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what the NHL gms did, because there's gonna be that

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guy who shows up and wants to take the fourth

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overall pick in the NHL draft fourth in fantasy, and

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maybe the fourth pick doesn't belong there, maybe the sixteenth

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pick belongs way up there. I'm not even looking at

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the names right now, so that don't take that as

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what actually happened. But believe me, the NHL draft order

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does not equal the fantasy rookie draft needed order. You

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can join up and have all these discussions and disagree

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with us, agree or disagree with each other nicely. Of course.

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At the Discord Fantasyhockeylife at gmail dot com can get

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you a link you can pop in. There's always people

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chatting away there. There's also our Patreon that you can

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join up. There's all kinds of things. The roster Doctor

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Victor will go through with a fine tooth comb well

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your roster and to help you to figure out what

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you ought to be doing. You ever wanted that second

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opinion of somebody to jump in, Victory will do it.

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I'll do it by request whatever you need. And in addition,

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there are prospect ranks that you can get. Victor's got

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his whole Fantasy Hockey Life, rookie ranks, first year player

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draft ranks are going to be coming, all kinds of things.

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You can just join up to the Patreon and of course,

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the biggest ticket it'll get you at the very lowest

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level is entry into our tiered dynasty. That's not for money.

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It is for pride and playing your way up into

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the time division of the top Ultimate Dynasty players. So

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do join up. We are actively looking, we're actively starting,

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We're actively doing some of the drafts and some of

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the divisions right now. We need a few people to

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of the remaining drafts. So get in now. Patreon dot

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com slash Fantasy Hockey Life. You're right back. And on

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the other side of this, you're gonna hear Victor.

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Speaker 4: And I talking about drafting.

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Speaker 5: Michael Tower is here and he needs a Robinsbergen versus

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Rinfin in comparison for dynasty projections. Victor, we got to

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talk to goalies. Who you got.

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Speaker 3: Joshua Ravensburger was easily my top rateed goalie in this draft,

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and I tend to favor the euro goalies, but Ravensburger

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is just so complete. He's also a bit raw. He

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wasn't even drafted into the WHL. He was able to

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walk on and create a name for himself and then

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become the first or sorry second goalie taken in this draft,

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and really the one with the highest upside. So he's tall,

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He's still a bit raw, but I think he has

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tremendous upside, and I think of all the goalies, he

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has the highest upside of any of the goalies in

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this class. And I think it's good that he's going

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to San Jose. They don't he doesn't have to feel

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rust they don't have to pressure him. They have a

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scar Off. He's going to be the starter for a

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while now, and Ravensburger probably legit needs three to four

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years at least of development, and who knows where the

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Sharks and a scar Off will be at that time.

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So I wouldn't worry about drafting him and being blocked

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or whatever, because they could trade him or trade a

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scar Off or who knows what could happen. So I

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really like him. I think he's easily the best goalie

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in this draft. But Terry Rimpinen is interesting. He's an

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overager and he was really good at the World Junior Championship,

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almost won the gold medal for fhm Lynn. But he

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is someone who is definitely got the small goalie issue.

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shorter than that. He's listed at six feet, so you

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have that issue, and you know a lot of his

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club play hasn't been super great, so that makes you

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a little bit concerned. But overall I do grimp it in.

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Speaker 5: And Ravensbergen is a guy who you got up close

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and personal with the draft. You asked him some questions.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that audio right now, Jesshal Ravensburger sent as

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a Sharks goalie.

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Speaker 5: Talking about your time in Prince George. What are the

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corugar's done to help me develops.

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Speaker 6: To reach this The coaching half up there was great.

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Speaker 7: They believed in me a lot and gave me a

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lot of opportunity, and I think I was able to

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take it and with it when I first got there,

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and I just believe they put in me and kind

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of collvidence and the ability to play games. So it's

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something I'm really appreciated it of. And I did a

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good job.

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Speaker 8: And he's got out a goalie coach that he's been

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with you for had long ways.

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Speaker 5: Lets me say of Sean Buriy and how much he's.

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Speaker 7: In Yeah, he's probably one of the biggest reasons why

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I'm here in Miss Watter right now. Like after not

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getting drafted the dub he was the one who's able

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to get me an opportunity with PG and he was

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the first one to put that belief in my head.

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Speaker 6: And I remember pulling me.

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Speaker 7: Over and peewee and asking me, if you want to

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go somewhere in this game, you can, So that's kind

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of the first time put that belief in my head

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that maybe I can do this.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, he's a big role in my hockey journey

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so far.

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Speaker 3: I love that is there's someone that you model your

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game after.

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Speaker 7: I like watching Jake Gonger. I don't know how much

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my game really models his, but somebody enjoy watching. He's

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big like me, he skates really well, he reads the

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play really well, and I'd say try to take some

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little things from him, but he's just something I enjoy watching.

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Speaker 5: Well. Tower back, He's got some more questions also. He

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says he knows they have been talked about a lot,

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but after Shafer and Mesa go, he thinks lots of

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people are going to have a tough decision on front

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Dell versus Marton versus Hagen's in a banger league, Dynasty's

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setup victor who do you like there?

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Speaker 3: I do think it's gonna be a tough choice. I

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appreciate that question, and I think it's pretty clearly Frondale

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and third for me. I think if you want pure

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points upside, I think I think Hagen's has more points upside.

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so I would be probably supporting the Martone pick. I

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really like that. I do think that if I had

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the choice, I would probably go Hagen's just because I

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believe in his points upside a little bit more. But

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I'm not going to be complaining. It also depends on

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if center versus wing and fantasy. Sometimes, if you don't

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count face offs, it's sometimes better to have the winger

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because it's easier to get them into the top power play,

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and there's a little bit more roster flexibility, whereas often

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there's less flexibility with centers, and so that could be

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a bit of an issue for Hagen's on your team,

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it might depend a little bit on roster construction. For me,

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if you have a league that has multiple flex spots,

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then you're probably less worried about that issue. And our

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tidian in our original dynasties, there is no skater or

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flex spot, and that league I would take marton because

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it's a lot easier to fit a winger in than

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Speaker 5: And then he's going to go on and ask a

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couple more Reshne versus Kindle, versus Leikovic, and maybe versus West.

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He thinks so that is a mysterical power thinks they

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would be in the mix when that pick comes up

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in the drafts. Who would you pick at that group thicker.

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Speaker 3: I think it's definitely Cole Reshnie For me, I can

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appreciate that there will be some interest in Ben Kendall,

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especially because he went eleventh overall way too early, as

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a lot of us were feeling at the time. If

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it weren't for Jack Nesbit, Benjamin Kindall would have been

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a surprise of the first round. But then the Flyers

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went and traded up and took Nesbit and we were

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all like what But anyways, Ben Kendall is a good player.

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I really like him. He's gonna be fine. He's a

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fine middle to bottom six forward. But he doesn't have

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the scoring upside that Cole Reshnie does. So that's who

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I would take. West probably has more upside, but there's

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just so much more risk. I would take Cole Reshnie

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easily because he's someone who's already shown tremendous upside and

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has a few things to work on, but I think

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can figure it out. So I think at that point

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I wouldn't be if Rashnie was on the table. I

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would not be considering Mason West quite yet. I do

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like Mason West as a bit of a flyer, but

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if Rashnie's on the table, I'm not thinking twice about it,

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and I'm just taking him.

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Speaker 5: And so bend Kendall was some we mentioned here. Why

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don't we hear a little bit of talk from mister

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Kendall straight from the horse's mouth.

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Speaker 3: Kindle to It's perfect.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I owe so much him that they've helped me

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since I've been drafted by them in twenty twenty two,

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and they helped me with my development. They've provided out

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a place to play that was a great environment with

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a lot of great leaders, coaches and great management.

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Speaker 6: So I can't thank them enough.

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Speaker 5: What players teammates you can lead on through the process.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think a lot of older guys have been

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through this process from my team, especially last year, guys

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like Yakunchuck how which video.

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Speaker 6: A lot of different.

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Speaker 9: Guys that helped all our draft eligibles this year that

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have gone through this process.

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Speaker 6: It's been a great experience, you know, talking.

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Speaker 10: About a great decision making.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I just have a good sense for

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the game and good visions I can see, I see

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my teammates, see my teammates well, and make the right

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reason all over the ice, both on the offensive side

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and the defensive side.

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Speaker 6: Out off a lot of high end talent that you've

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been playing with. What's it like playing in the Western

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Hockey League and.

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Speaker 2: How he helped Jumper.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's a great league.

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Speaker 9: I think it's definitely prepared me well to play professional

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hockey as a grind to play in the Western League,

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and yeah, it's a great spot for development.

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Speaker 5: So what's next for you?

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Speaker 2: What do you have to do, what do you have

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to focus on try and take that next step in

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advance the NHL.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, obviously, as a smaller player, I think I definitely

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need to keep improving my overall size of strength as

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well as my skating, especially my straight line speed.

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Speaker 5: The Golden Moose comes in with this question for you, Victor.

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He says he has a friend who's a scout who

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loves Riker Lee, has him in the top twenty in

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this class, and he himself watched some video thinks that

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he's super skilled. Riker Lee is a great shot, good passer,

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skating not very good. He gets around okay, and it's

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pretty shifty. He's going to Michigan State next year, so

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the skating. So I guess, Victor, what's your take on

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that by knowing where to be ahead of time and

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getting there ahead of the play. In some ways, he

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reminds me of Jason Robertson, who really struggled with the

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foot speed, but the anticipation was so good that he

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made up for it. Of course, Jason Robertson a taller,

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bigger player, and Lee is both undersized and not a

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great skater, so he's got both of those things working

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against him. But I do think that Lee can figure

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it out because of the skill, because of the shot,

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the vision, the anticipation, all of those things. I think

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Michigan State is going to be great for him, and

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I think that that he could be someone that we're

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talking about in a couple of years who really popped

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off in college and is at least justifying his draft slot,

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if not improving upon it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the next question ed comes in and says, Jesse

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versus Victor. Oh, Victor, I see the notes that you

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wrote here. So Jesse versus Victor, how do you have

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that comp going? It's gotta be Jesse hands down right. Yeah,

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look at that. I didn't even have to use AI

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to generate that either. As far as anybody listening to

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this knows. Next one at the end of that shot says,

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maybe these questions are too related to your secret ranking recipe.

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We call him Colonel Victor Sanders. But here goes, when

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doing your rankings, how much does a late versus early

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birthday come into play? And therefore, how much does the

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runway factor in?

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. Sometimes not much, But let me elaborate.

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If someone has work to do to get stronger, better skater,

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et cetera, and their October November birthday, they probably are

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going to get dinged a little bit because they don't

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have as long to accomplish that, and they have had

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already a longer time being older in the development curve

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to get there and they haven't, so they're shown that

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they haven't quite been able to accomplish that. Whereas if

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they're a June, July and August birthday, they get a

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bit of a pass because they're so raw and they

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have more of a runway to get to where they

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need to be. So it's only if they really have

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significant issues that they need to work on or and

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then you can factor in that timeframe the guys in

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the middle. It doesn't really affect one way or the other.

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They are what they are. And the other thing is

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that if their processing ability is having an issue but

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they're a summer birth date, then maybe they get a

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little bit of a pass or they get there, they

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don't get dinged because they need a little bit more

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time to develop that processing. So basically, in a nutshell,

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sometimes it matters depending on the context of what they

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need to do to improve and how much improvement we've seen.

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It's especially helpful if we've seen them progress towards the

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end of the season and they are a summer birth date.

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You can project that trajectory is going to continue to

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steeply climb afterwards. And so that's something that I like

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to take into account.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and do you knock players down for their size victory?

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If so, is there a threshold at which it's inevitable

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to lower expectations? So comparing Potter kindle Reshne, who are

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all five to ten versus camp Schmidt at five to seven,

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for example, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Realistically, you just have to listen to people who have

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the ears of nhlgms and people who are making the decisions,

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and the reality is that five eleven five ten seems

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to be a threshold for when it really seems to matter,

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and guys that are below that better be exceptional. And

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that's the issue with some of the smaller guys in

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this class. It didn't really come up too much with Potter, Kendall, Reshnie.

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Those guys are what they are and we saw where

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they went, whereas if you just take off another inch

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or two, it's a completely different situation. And those smaller

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players went much later and have a very difficult road

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ahead of them. So I check with the scouts. I

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listen to what they have to say. I heard several

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scouts tell me that Cam Schmidt, Adam Benatch, and LG.

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Mooney are not going to play in the NHL because

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they're just too small. And that's just partially because they're small,

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but also because they're just not as complete enough of

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a player. They really need to have a B game,

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they really need to round out the rest of their game,

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and if they can do that, then they have a

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better chance. But oftentimes these smaller guys are just really

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skilled with the puck and don't really bring as much

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away from the puck, and that's a problem if you

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don't really have anything else to fall back on because

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that's not going to take them all the way. And

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you look at a guy like Logan stankovin which as

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we're recording this just signed a big extension. Kudos to him.

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But he had an excellent B game. He's an excellent

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all around player. He's reading turnovers, he's tough to play against,

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he's stealing pucks, he's scoring goals, he's for checking. He's

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a beast in all situations. And if you're going to

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be a smaller player, make it that's what you need

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to be. Like, you can't just be super skilled half

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wall perimeter player, and that's the problem that a lot

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of these guys fall into.

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Speaker 5: And the next question, very curious about your thoughts on

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Alexander Jarrovsky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of B game, this is one that I

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think is really interesting to talk about. So Zarowski really

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didn't have that earlier in the year, but it really

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started to come along. And if he runs out, he

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could go from boom bus to boom. That's what we

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really like to hear. So he's got super slick hands.

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He's really an excellent playmaker. I didn't really like some

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of what I saw in the NHL. He was trying

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to dangle guys, but maybe he was just bored or

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who knows. But then we didn't get to see much

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of him in the KHL, but what we did see

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was pretty reassuring. He was using his teammates better, he

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was relying on some of their skill and working to

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collaboratively a little bit better, and that's what you want

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to see. So I'm actually really excited for his Zarowski.

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It'll be a big season next year to see what

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he can do. But I have a feeling he's someone

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that we're going to be talking about as someone who

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is popping off in the KHL next year, and that

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is going to be really good to see, and then

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we'll be really excited about him as well moving forward.

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So yeah, I really like that pick. I think it

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was a smart pick early in day two. Hopefully he

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gets more cagel time. He might end up he might

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end up splitting or playing partial season in the MHL,

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which will be unfortunate. But yeah, I really think it's

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a good pick with a lot of potential.

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Speaker 5: Good question here from Rob Matthew Schaeffer, how does he

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slot in versus zeboillem Alexander Nikishkin and I guess who

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probably probably Cole Hudson here.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he might mean Laine Hudson. I don't know. We

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can put them both in there, how about that. I

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think that's one of the benefits of the ranks that

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I do because it's not easy necessarily to rank within

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a class, but it's way harder to rank between classes

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and with guys that are D plus two plus three

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plus whatever. So yeah, that's what I think. That's one

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of the benefits to the ranks is that we have that.

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And I would say that it's pretty clearly nikishin ahead.

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For me, I would put Lane Hudson second, and then

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probably Cole Hudson behind Lane, and then Shaeffer and then Buoyam.

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So I give you two Hudson's for the price of one.

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So basically Schaeffer is between the Hudsons and the Bullyams.

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I think that, Yeah, he's pretty exciting in terms of

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the upside, but I think that a lot of the

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other guys that have already been drafted I would put

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ahead of Schaeffer. There are a lot of other guys

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that aren't even on this list that I would put

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ahead of him too. But that's not to say that

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he's not exciting and worthy of the first overall pick

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because I think he is wow.

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Speaker 5: Next from Sasha, Luca Kagnoni versus Tanner Mullendyke, who do

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you like better?

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Speaker 3: Thanks Sash, I forgive me an easy one, because I

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think Cagnoni is clearly better than Mullendyke. I think Mullendyke

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is he's an awesome skater, He's someone that's going to

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be in NHL er, but I don't think that in fantasy,

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as we're talking about here. In fantasy, I think it's

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clearly Cagnoni. He has significant upside, and I think what

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he did in the AHL is super impressive. We'll see

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what Mullendyke does. I'm sure that he'll be fine in

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the AHL in terms of being able to skate with

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all those guys, but I don't think he has the offense.

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I don't think he ever really has to be fair.

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He has produced, but I don't think that's necessarily his

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calling card. I think that's he's more of a transition player,

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more of a puck mover, and he's not someone who's

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going to command power play time. Cagnoni is not on

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the ice. If he's not on the power play, Like,

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what are you doing out there if you're not at

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least having him in some offensive situation. And I really

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think I've said it before it again, I think Cagnoni

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is like Leane Hudson light. I think that he's that

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skilled offensively. I think that he's just as good, if

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not better, defensively in some areas. He's got a really

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good stick and he closes his gap. He's a good skater,

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so all those things, and he's physical. He knows how

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to pinch people off in the boards and win puck battles.

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So yeah, it's definitely Cagnoni for the offense.

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Speaker 5: Sashi, you will have a point deducted because that was

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not a drive question. But we answered it anyway because

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that's how we roll. At Cianna's back. Why not a

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Shaeffer Dobson comparison. He says he's asking for a Habs

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fan friend.

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Speaker 3: Like he's chilling his friend pretty hard there. Yeah, so

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I would definitely take Schaeffer over a Dobson. Adopson is

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a great player, and I think that's a whole different conversation.

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What happens in Montreal now, I would definitely be worried

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about no Adoptson's value in Dynasty after that trade, But

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Schaefer is plus Dobson in my opinion, I think that

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he he's way better offensively. I think Dobson is good offensively,

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but I think Shaefer probably even has a little bit

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more to give, and I think that he's way better defensively.

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So he's your true number one defenseman. And that's always

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been the issue with Dobson is that he was good offensively,

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but he was never a great defensively, and it was

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hard for him to get all the premium minutes. And

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I think that's honestly why they traded him, is because

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they have their true number one now they can fill

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in the gaps behind Dobson. I think they did great

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with the draft picks that they got in terms of

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getting hs and is probably a number two defenseman that

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they got at sixteen or whatever, So that was fantastic value.

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And there he's going to be coming along and replacing

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both of them, replacing Dobson for the years to come

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in and give Victor Actlan out of it. Anyways, I know

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that wasn't the full question, but I definitely think there's

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way more value in Shaper Schaefer.

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Speaker 5: A couple just a general question here your favorite three

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to five top fantasy picks for from each round two

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through seven.

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Speaker 3: All right, Willie, I really am mad at you for

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making me go through this exercise because it was painful.

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It was painful. This draft is not the draft to

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do this with my friend. But I did it for

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you anyway, as I did it for everybody. There are

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a lot actually in round two, but I picked them.

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We already talked about a couple of them, but we

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haven't talked about Simon Wang. I'll mention him just briefly.

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He's the highest picked Chinese born player ever in the NHL,

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and that's pretty cool for him. I think the Sharks

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partially picked him because it's a cool story. I don't know.

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He's extremely raw. He has a lot of work to do,

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but he's only been playing organized hockey for a few years,

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and so I think the potential there is huge. He's

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six six or whatever. He's a really good skater for

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his size, and he did okay in the OHL. He's

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got a long way to go, but you give him

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like five years and yeah, he could be a middle

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pairing guy who's very disruptive. To the play and is

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really hard to skate around. Obviously because of his reach

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and mobility. I don't think he's going to be a

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big fantasy asset unless you're in a thirty two team

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league that just values guys that are playing. Aside from that,

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I'll probably pass on Samon Wayne, But if you're in

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the later rounds, he's someone I would probably throw a

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pick at, just because who knows this guy. He may

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end up being really good. We just don't know. He's

474
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so raw. He's so raw. Other second rounders Alex Zarofsky

475
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,400
We already talked about Malcolm Spence. We talked about Cole McKinney.

476
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,920
We talked about round three Nathan dem I mentioned briefly,

477
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,440
but I do really like him. I think he's got

478
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,920
a few things to work on, but I think he's

479
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,400
got some upside. We talked about Tommy Lafrenier. We didn't

480
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,240
talk too much about David Bitkowski. He's someone who fell

481
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,440
a little bit later than someone thought he would. But

482
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,960
he definitely has some things to work on, but he's

483
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,279
got some upside, so I like him if you can

484
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:51,079
figure his skating out. He's very physical, so I like that.

485
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,279
You're getting. You know what, you're getting a bottom six disruptor, heavy,

486
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,119
difficult to play against kind of guy.

487
00:24:58,799 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 4: LJ. Mooney.

488
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:01,559
Speaker 3: I know some people said he's not gonna play. I've

489
00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:03,680
heard other people say he's gonna figure it out. He's

490
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,799
just so talented. I are on the side he's probably

491
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,240
not gonna play. But if I had to bet on

492
00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:12,160
someone in that round, it probably would be him. Michaels

493
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,480
servek sir surchek Man. That's a hard one to say,

494
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,400
of course. Like the I think he's Slovak, right, He's

495
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,720
got so many consonants just slam together. Anyways, He's an

496
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,039
interesting guy. Definitely a bit undersized, that's partially why he fell,

497
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,640
but he's a Swiss army knife. He can do lots

498
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,279
of different things. I actually really like him as a

499
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,039
team pick. I'm not so sure in fantasy he might

500
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:38,160
figure it out. So yeah, hard to say. And then

501
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,119
in the fifth round it really start standing out here. Basically,

502
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,359
my strategy beyond those early rounds is to just go

503
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,559
for the goalies. They have more avaiability in their ranks,

504
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,480
but you never know. So rimpin' in was taken in

505
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:57,359
that round. I think that he's someone that is probably

506
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,279
worth a pick at some point in your fantasy draft,

507
00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,359
and maybe he figures it out. I don't know. But

508
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,960
then the Winnipeg Jacks took Victor Klingsley cling Cell, sorry

509
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:13,119
Victor kling Cell. He's yeah, he's definitely interesting. He was

510
00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:15,759
awesome in the j twenty. We didn't really see much

511
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:19,880
of him in the SHL. He's someone who has some

512
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,880
pretty significant skill. Sometimes it isn't always there, there's a

513
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,799
little bit of hit and miss, but if anyone can

514
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,440
figure it out in the fifth round as a skater,

515
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:35,440
it's probably him. Let's see getting really down in the

516
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,559
weeds here. But Aiden Lane is someone that I think

517
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,480
is interesting. Cal Gray took him at one seventy six.

518
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,079
He's also another one who is just a strong two

519
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,759
way player, and so because of that, I think that

520
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,240
he can make a name for himself. He is going

521
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,400
to Harvard next year and so that can probably help.

522
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,440
He also didn't play very much. Sometimes I look at

523
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,400
some of these guys who just haven't been able to

524
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,759
prove it and maybe there's more there. But he played

525
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,200
just a couple of USHL and a few OHL games,

526
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,920
so maybe there's more to unravel there and to pick

527
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,680
up and then in the seventh round really bleak there.

528
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,200
But Philip Eckberg is probably the guy I would take

529
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:24,440
in that round, a little bit of a late birthday

530
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:30,039
Carolina tight pick. He's small, he's very crafty with the puck,

531
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,599
very strong instincts, and was pretty good in the OHL.

532
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,759
So he's someone who might pop off a little bit

533
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:41,079
more next year. So those are the guys, Simon Wang,

534
00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:45,000
Alex Arrowsky, Malcolm Spence, Cole McKinney, Nathan Bem, Tommy Lafrenier,

535
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:51,799
David Bitkowski, LJ. Mooney, michaels Urschek, Victor Klingsel, Betterry Drimpin

536
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,480
and Aiden Lane, Philip Eckberg.

537
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,039
Speaker 5: And one more question, Hison versus Solberg, which one do

538
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,079
you like better? Oh?

539
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: I want them both. Come on now, don't make me

540
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:09,519
choose between those two. Yeah, they're pretty similar, I would

541
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:13,440
say in terms of they're both very violent players. They're

542
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,079
both guys that like to mix it up. They're super physical,

543
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,720
but also they're not just dunes that are going out

544
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,000
there hidden people. They are doing that, but they're also

545
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,960
very good skaters, very mobile, see the play very well.

546
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,839
I think I like Ahison's vision more I think he's

547
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,000
got a little bit more offense. I think he sees

548
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,640
the play really well, and I think that he steps

549
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,880
into the play and looks for offense more than Stolberg does.

550
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
I think Soolberg is going to be more of the

551
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,279
goodest type, where he's just more of a banger and

552
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,759
there aren't too many points there. Achison may be that,

553
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,920
but I think there's hope that there's more points from Achison,

554
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,359
and so I would probably take Achison for that reason.

555
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,559
But I think they're pretty similar. And I pulled up

556
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,200
their player cards for Fantasy Hockey Life and just looked

557
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,720
at their bash and Ahison is only eightieth percentile or no,

558
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:09,279
he's seventieth percentile for hits and Solberg is one hundred

559
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,799
percent dile for hits and that's in the SHL, which

560
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:15,680
isn't known to be a super physical league. So I

561
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:20,880
we would have to give the bash to Solberg. But

562
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,400
if you combine the hits, blocks and shots, Ahison is

563
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,559
basically right there with him. And in my ranks, I

564
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,039
actually have as a seven point twenty five and Solberg

565
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,359
is a six point one five, for whatever that's worth.

566
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:36,599
So I like hsin a little bit more.

567
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 5: Let's go through five more guys, Victor. Because of the

568
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,279
many hours of audio you brought back, some of the

569
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,680
interviews were a little more usable than others, and these

570
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,519
were some of the better things that we captured, so

571
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:52,559
I don't want to go without using those in the show.

572
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,359
And first we have Carter Amiko, a defenseman from Philadelphia.

573
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,759
You talked about all the big bashers in Philly. Any

574
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,279
opinions on mister ami go.

575
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny. A lot of the guys who

576
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,880
were there. Russ from Sportsology helped get me the credentials,

577
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,720
and obviously he knows Philly well. He knows a lot

578
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,160
of the US player as well. And we're talking about

579
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,119
Amiko and he's just like this tall, dangly Bambi type player.

580
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,799
He's still growing into his body, he's still figuring things out.

581
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,680
So in that sense, like huge potential, right because he's

582
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,960
six' five two twenty, five he's already if he's already,

583
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:26,960
huge and he's a little bit of a late Birthday march,

584
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,799
fifteenth and he didn't he had some limitations from, injury

585
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,160
so he didn't play all that, much only thirteen games

586
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,720
in THE, Ntdp so we don't really know exactly what

587
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:39,240
he's going to be, like but there's so much potential

588
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,680
and he's going To Boston university who's just been turning

589
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,160
out great, defenseman both offensive and all, around and SO

590
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:47,759
i think IT'S i think it's. Great he's definitely someone

591
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:51,400
who you could see having a tremendous upside in the.

592
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Future SO i Like. AMICCO i don't think THERE'S i

593
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,720
don't necessarily think there's offense, there but there's definitely a

594
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:59,519
player and it certainly fits their. Type you're looking at,

595
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:05,559
guy it's like like Pro, varov what's The Rista, lanen

596
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:08,799
you know? Who, yeah so, GUYS i think he fits that,

597
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,400
mold AND i think That Carter amico Certainly miko certainly

598
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,359
could end up being like. That SO i REALLY i

599
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,559
like him a. Lot, yeah but he's but we also

600
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,480
just don't know because he's so.

601
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: Raw here's What carter had to say at the, draft

602
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,079
presumably before he knew That victor called.

603
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: Him Baby Carter Miko Philadelphia, flyers.

604
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:31,079
Speaker 2: A lot of frustrator ob suit of the. Injury thank

605
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,680
no matter, What i'm there AND i didn't care what.

606
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:35,440
TEAM i just needed a shot AND i got it.

607
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,000
Now So i'm super excited to be doing it In.

608
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,839
Philadelphia who was here with you?

609
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 7: Today who's just celebrates?

610
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:43,559
Speaker 2: Moment, yeah my, mother my little, brother un and, uncle

611
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:47,160
my cousins and, mom my grandparents and my mom's. Friends

612
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,079
how would you describe your game To flyers? FANS i

613
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,000
may not have teen you. Play, yeah So i'd Say

614
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,319
i'm a TWO a. Defenseman some of that's, physical hit,

615
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,880
people put him through the, wall something that's kind of fucks.

616
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,160
Up play, simple do a damn good job on the. PK's, Well,

617
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,680
god what what part of the game do you think

618
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,240
you need to work on the move to get to

619
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,920
where you want to? Be, YEAH i definitely say my

620
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,000
speed being six or, FIVE i think more of my

621
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,920
game is physical and just put play and moving the

622
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,000
pluck up to the forward as, well but definitely my

623
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:21,079
overall speed and. Quickness just the fans on real, environment

624
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,240
especially being From, portland be AND i love The East.

625
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 6: Coast so super.

626
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: Excited, thanks thank you, Guys thank You Jackie. Ivankovich let's

627
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,279
talk more goalies because we love getting him. Goalies later

628
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:39,880
in the, draft he went to The Nashville predators And

629
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:41,240
victor what's your take on?

630
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: HIM i Love. IVANKOVICH i think he's such a, gamer

631
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,559
he's such a, Competitor like we saw him at THE ua,

632
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,519
teens just playing his heart. Out he's the kind of

633
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:56,279
guy that you want back, there you want to win,

634
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,640
for you want to win. With he's really performed well

635
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,799
at The kagretzki and THE u, eighteens and was even

636
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:06,640
there for THE u twenties and looked. Great the problem

637
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:10,400
is he's probably not even six Feet he's probably five to.

638
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,000
Eleven he's. Small he's super athletic and super good in

639
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:16,680
a lot of other, ways but the reality is that

640
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,559
you just have to be elite at all those other

641
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,200
things if you're five to, eleven And i'm not sure

642
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,720
that he. Is some goalie expert people have said that

643
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,359
he's a little slow in some areas and with his

644
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,640
with his some of his, movements And i'm not sure

645
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,960
THAT i would put too much faith in. Him he

646
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,400
did talk about just loving the fact That nashville took

647
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,640
him AND U. C saras as his. Idol there's only

648
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,039
ONE Uc sarus in the league for a reason because

649
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:47,319
he's a. Unicorn so will there be another? ONE i

650
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,519
seriously doubt, it But i'm, Really i'm really pulling For.

651
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,799
IVANKOVIC i hope it works. OUT i just personally wouldn't

652
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:54,799
bet at. It there probably five or six other GOALIES

653
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,680
i would take in this draft before, him and then

654
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,599
if you start expanding it to other, drafts he really

655
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480
starts falling down the. List so that's just the unfortunate

656
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,279
reality for. Me but, Please, jack prove me.

657
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,359
Speaker 5: Wrong, jack prove him.

658
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: Wrong Jack Ivankovic.

659
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: Nashville the plan is Still michigan for the.

660
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 5: Fall, yeah, yeah my plans to go To michigan's.

661
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 11: A bunch Of michigan guys have been drafted in the

662
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,320
last first two rounds of.

663
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 8: Right whatst that been?

664
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,599
Speaker 11: LIKE i, mean do you know those guys In Malcolm

665
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,880
spence and those kind of.

666
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 6: Guys, YEAH i grew up With.

667
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 12: MALCOLM i Knowl hawks and McKinney and a bunch of

668
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,360
other guys From michigan really well.

669
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 6: Playing against them growing. Up what's cool to go through

670
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,199
it with?

671
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 8: Them what was that like when that possibility opened up

672
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,360
for you to go THE ncaa because it wasn't available

673
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,800
last year as a possibility.

674
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,039
Speaker 1: And when did you first become aware that was a possibility.

675
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:44,039
Speaker 4: And want to do?

676
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 12: That, YEAH i think when the rule, changed it's definitely

677
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:47,800
open to.

678
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,639
Speaker 6: It it's so hard to make a decision at such.

679
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,599
Speaker 12: A young, age like can turn the opportunity down If

680
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,639
i'm going to be a starter at The university Of.

681
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,039
Speaker 3: Michigan is there AN nhl goalie that you like watching?

682
00:34:59,119 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 8: Yesterday pretty?

683
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 5: Hard and Then jack that's been?

684
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: Friends just what's your relationship like with?

685
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 8: Them and how cool is are going to be a

686
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,960
dev camp with them in a couple of.

687
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,559
Speaker 6: Days, Yeah, brady he's one of my best. Friends super

688
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:09,599
cool and go through it with.

689
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 12: Him and the Cam reid is at The pretz, Too

690
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,679
so that's pretty special growing up playing against those two.

691
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 6: Guys that's pretty. Cool your pro cop Is Ucy. Sorrows

692
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,079
so how does it feel to be under the same

693
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:21,760
granchastis of?

694
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: Them it's.

695
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 6: Unbelievable he's the GUY i look up.

696
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 12: TO i can't wait to get down the, camp pick

697
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,960
his brain about what he does good and just get down.

698
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 13: There, jack what do you want fred S vince to?

699
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:33,519
Speaker 1: Know what About?

700
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: York?

701
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 6: YEAH i love to. WIN i think the biggest thing

702
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,440
in hockey is to.

703
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 12: WIN i, MEAN i Think i'm definitely gonna help and

704
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:41,760
bring A Stanley cup To.

705
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,679
Speaker 3: Nashville aside From, Sorrows are there any other goalies you

706
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,559
really like watching the model your game? After?

707
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:48,559
Speaker 6: Maybe, yeah You Grocier sterkin's another.

708
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 12: Guy look at this compete, levels, athleticism it's pot. County

709
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,360
those three Things i'd take from his game into. Mind

710
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,199
BUT i think still for me is the.

711
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:03,639
Speaker 5: Guy here you. Go, next we've Got Jack, murtau a

712
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,159
center From philadelphia once, again one of These Philadelphia. Bruisers

713
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,000
you weren't. Kidding you got a lot of interviews from.

714
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:10,599
Them what do you think of?

715
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:15,159
Speaker 3: Them, yeah that's funny how all these guys just went To.

716
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:17,960
Philly it was. Hilarious and they were all taken like

717
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,280
really close to each other, Too so they're all at the,

718
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,800
podium like walking through the hall, together just high five

719
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,639
in each. Other it was really fun to, see especially

720
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:26,960
after the disappointment of none of them going in the first,

721
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,400
day so they all got to have their moment early

722
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,920
on day two and so that was really. Cool And Murtag,

723
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,760
yeah one of the THINGS i like best about him

724
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,039
is that he's still, seventeen and he'll be seventeen for

725
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,760
another month and a, half so he's super. Young he's super.

726
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,480
Raw he at times looked fantastic this, season and at

727
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:46,719
times he looked, lost which is what you would expect

728
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,239
from someone who's really young and playing a little over

729
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,400
his head at, times especially when he was playing against

730
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,719
THE ncaa, kids which he will be one of those next.

731
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,320
Year but that's really tough when you're seventeen and not physically.

732
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,800
Developed he is a little biticker than some of the

733
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,960
other guys that are on the, team BUT i think He's,

734
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,159
yeah he's someone who can do a lot of different,

735
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:08,280
things and he's got a really good, shot AND i

736
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,519
think that he can continue to develop that is there

737
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,239
a ton of upside there in terms of. Points that's

738
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,639
the part That i'm not super convinced about the fact

739
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,039
that he is so young that maybe he can figure

740
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:22,360
out maybe he's one of these who can get there

741
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,719
in terms of, points and because he has the high perferal,

742
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,119
floor THEN i think that gives you a little bit

743
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:32,000
more hope That Jack murtak can get. There there's not

744
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:35,719
too much proof of. Concept although he did have one

745
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,159
of the BEST usndb, seasons it was just, overall the

746
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:45,000
whole experience was suppressed for all THE ntdp, Guys.

747
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 5: And here is What jack had to.

748
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: Say Jack, Murtag Philadelphia, Flyers what.

749
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,159
Speaker 8: Can The flyers fans?

750
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 11: Expect CATCH a lot of energy and workforce and a

751
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,599
guy who loves to.

752
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:58,559
Speaker 3: Compete you're going to be you next? Year what do

753
00:37:58,559 --> 00:37:59,920
you think you need to work on to get to

754
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,480
where you want to?

755
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 6: BE i think just overall.

756
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: CONSISTENCY i think that's just a.

757
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 11: Standard AND i played at the next level And i'll

758
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,159
play here at The flyers.

759
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,039
Speaker 6: ORGANIZATION i Think i'm more. CONSISTENT i could shine that.

760
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,159
Speaker 3: Way Any flyers did you muddled your game? After or

761
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:13,840
any players in?

762
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 11: General i'm out of a game after Like matthew Tis.

763
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,239
Chuck BUT i love Watching. TIPPET i think he's ads.

764
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,400
STUCK i just love watching, him and it's a good

765
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,079
watching watching The.

766
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 5: Doers both you talked about your. Years had a.

767
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,119
Speaker 10: Really good second.

768
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 11: Year, YEAH i saw a whole roller, coaster just super,

769
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,719
fun super, exciting a lot of a lot of talent

770
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,360
on my, team SO i. COULD i can't think those

771
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,599
guys enough with what they did for, me and but

772
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,960
WHATEVER i can do for, THEM i think overall is

773
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,079
an unreal year and great two years with the.

774
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:44,199
Speaker 10: Program you're pretty confident in fell out between that and the,

775
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:44,920
season like.

776
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 5: You gonna get picked forty.

777
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 11: Overs, YEAH i think just, Overall i'd Say i'm a confident,

778
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:53,880
kid AND i think just, overall getting picked at whatever

779
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,800
early second round is it's pretty surreal overag just, unbelievable

780
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,400
tough to get.

781
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,119
Speaker 3: Picked i'm.

782
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:00,599
Speaker 10: Stronger do you leave get?

783
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 6: DRAFT i got a lot of ways to.

784
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 11: GO i think this summer at Bu in over the

785
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,559
next couple of, YEARS i think it'll be really helpful

786
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:07,079
for me And.

787
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,599
Speaker 6: I'll put on a good amount of.

788
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 10: Weight what, wait do you think to?

789
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 6: Play h look kind of play between two two.

790
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 11: Hundred and two, five so he's probably about ten more

791
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,679
pounds of.

792
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,639
Speaker 10: Muscle will be good beside the.

793
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: Scoring so you're gonna get?

794
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 9: Dirty, Yeah, no for.

795
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,119
Speaker 11: SURE i gotta work on the consistency down, low and

796
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:24,159
that great factor.

797
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,519
Speaker 1: Of my game was.

798
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 5: Perfect then we Have Curban, limitoff a defenseman for The

799
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,480
Carolina hurricanes now or drafted thereof we always Love carolina's.

800
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:37,880
Picks where did you think Of?

801
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:44,159
Speaker 3: Limitov, yeah he was super fun talking to him and

802
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,480
looking into. Him he's, Huge he's got some really good,

803
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,800
mobility so he certainly seems like he's a. Player he

804
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,360
didn't have too many points in THE, nhl he only

805
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,280
had ONE kgl. GAME i think we really need to

806
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,920
see how he performs against. Man that's something we want

807
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,760
to know and we hopefully will find out next. Year

808
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,119
BUT i think there's a ton of. Potential and it

809
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:05,480
was funny asking him who he models his game after

810
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,199
and mentioned That carolina Has Alex nikkeishan and he was, like, oh, Yeah,

811
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,039
Nikisha and then he thought about it a little bit

812
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:13,519
more and he's nixed with Him Rosmus dollin AND i was, Like,

813
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,559
okay that's. Fantastic so he thought about it and was

814
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:18,400
like a little bit more, dynamic a little bit more.

815
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,360
Offense he wants to be that kind of. PLAYER i

816
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,519
think he sees himself as having a little bit more

817
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
ability to jump into the play and of course we

818
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,559
haven't really Seen nikkeishan too much do that in THE nhl,

819
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:32,440
yet but he was stud number one all around defensive.

820
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,400
Guy both those guys he mentioned are that and so

821
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,280
hopefully he can be some of. That and at this,

822
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,400
point it certainly seems like he has that, potential but

823
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,119
he's just so raw that we just don't, know and

824
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,639
so that's part of the REASON i like him is

825
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:46,239
that there is a ton of potential and it's just

826
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,639
untapped right. Now so, yeah he's definitely someone like after

827
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,159
the first four or five defensemen are gone THAT i

828
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,679
know a little bit more, about THEN i would absolutely

829
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,559
want to Take Kurbin.

830
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 5: Limitov and here's What limitov had to Say Curban, Limita, carolina.

831
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,519
Speaker 3: How would you describe your game To carolina? Fans we

832
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:08,920
don't know.

833
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 14: You're i'm a two side with aggressive play in the offensive.

834
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,599
ZONE i would like to be with the. PUCK i

835
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:24,840
have a great hockey, sense, archtick, play great and, accurate powerful.

836
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: Shot what is your plan for the next couple of year?

837
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,920
Development you plan to come over To North?

838
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,519
Speaker 14: America, YEAH i will be in the development camp With

839
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,920
caroline and after, that after, THAT i come back In

840
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,119
russia for a, year maybe two, years and my plans

841
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:43,440
to be in the.

842
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:44,679
Speaker 6: Michell you, KNOW.

843
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,119
Speaker 14: I haven't he just a drafted and AND i think

844
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:56,199
The kits Should. Yeah, no he was playing in THE,

845
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,800
cachel BUT i play in THE mhl just a little

846
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,679
bit lower.

847
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: League, yeah why not stay on THE usa show next?

848
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,199
Speaker 14: Year going back to, THAT i have two more years.

849
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:13,000
Concerts but, yeah but after year maybe we can solve the.

850
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:16,039
Speaker 8: Problem and, yeah is there a player you model your game,

851
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:19,480
after a player who you like to have?

852
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:21,519
Speaker 3: Watch surely you think Maybe.

853
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 15: Nien, yeah and, Lastly shane Von, sagi the Third philadelphia

854
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:35,920
prospect in this year Group, victor how close AM i

855
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,639
to pronouncing that?

856
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 5: Correctly and what did you know about?

857
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: HIM i think you did better than the first TIME

858
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:45,079
i tried to pronounce. IT i was way so good

859
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,360
job with that. One, YEAH i know all these guys

860
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,840
are just like super like they had a type one

861
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:53,480
Percent philly out of. Type it was. HILARIOUS i thin

862
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,000
he's SOMEONE i talking To russ a lot about. Him

863
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,719
he didn't score that much at THE ntdp this, year

864
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,039
but he sees a lot of upside and potential And

865
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:05,280
Van sagi AND i like. That probably not super high for,

866
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,400
points BUT i think that maybe there's some untapped potential

867
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,840
there that he could. Realize but realistically he's probably more

868
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,639
of a two way kind of. Guy but the fact

869
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:16,840
that he's just so dogging on, pucks he's a, disruptor

870
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,679
he's fantastic on the four, check and so can he

871
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,079
translate more of that into points like maybe we'll have

872
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:26,760
to SEE i think Again Michigan. State he's At Michigan

873
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,119
state already this, year and so that we'll have to

874
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:31,320
see if he can pop. Off that's really hard to

875
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,199
do as a young. Player he is an older, birthday

876
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,519
so he was eighteen all of this. Year but it's

877
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:37,960
still hard to have your draft delible season At Michigan.

878
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,599
State And russ was commenting on HIS ntdb play last

879
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:44,159
year and this year the transferred To Michigan state was.

880
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:47,159
Good he didn't have the highest role and so next

881
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:50,880
year certainly could see some improvement in his. Points he

882
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,280
was almost half point per game AND i could see

883
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,239
him getting approaching point per game next, season probably be

884
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,599
a little bit under that and that would be really.

885
00:43:57,639 --> 00:43:59,519
Successful so we'll see if he can pop off a

886
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,880
little bit. More BUT i think in terms of those

887
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,239
step forwards when you start getting into the twenty five

888
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,639
twenty to thirty overall, Range Van sagi is someone in

889
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,360
the deep enough LEAGUE i would have some interest.

890
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 5: In and here's what Man sagi had to see at the, Draft.

891
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: Little Shane Van sage f fIF. Flyers that.

892
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 8: Unbelievable it's just a dream come. True it's just it's

893
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,400
a wonderful moment for myself and my, family and this

894
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:30,039
is Something i've been working for some time, now and

895
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:32,960
to for to finally be here and for to finally be,

896
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,800
over it's it's a good.

897
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 10: Feeling how do you feel that you're two years in

898
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,840
THE ushl helped prepare you for the first year in

899
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,599
college and does make you feel comfortable right?

900
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,519
Speaker 3: Away and Then, STUBBLE i get helped.

901
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 8: TREMENDOUSLY i playing at THE mtdp for two.

902
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 13: Years if it really helped me.

903
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 8: Learn a lot about myself as a person in the,

904
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,400
choir and it helped me grow and just make sure

905
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,119
of my, game AND i found my consistency over the

906
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:56,079
TIME i was, there AND i think it it really

907
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:58,800
did help me make that jump from ushlda.

908
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 10: College was there anything specific about your game that you

909
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,719
felt got better in your freshman year from eighty one

910
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:04,119
you were Playing.

911
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 8: Jingior, yeah into consistency, PART i think just being able

912
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,679
to play at just a, big power forward heavy game

913
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:10,639
every single.

914
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:11,599
Speaker 3: SHIFT i think got.

915
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 8: A lot better over my time at THE, ntdp AND

916
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,360
i think Pliant Michigan, STATE i think it was it

917
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:16,679
was really.

918
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,519
Speaker 3: Good you talked About.

919
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 10: Yes you said it was a really good. Meeting do

920
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,840
you feel really confident at that point that they were

921
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,199
going to get?

922
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,519
Speaker 8: You at some POINT i felt good about the meeting

923
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,119
in the, INTERVIEW i thought that they liked. ME i like,

924
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,760
them and obviously the draft in can happen if there's

925
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,239
a lot of, trades there's a lot of, movement and

926
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,519
you just don't know who's going to be on the.

927
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:36,519
Board but, yeah like they had a chance to take.

928
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:38,840
ME i felt somewhat confident THAT i was.

929
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: A player of.

930
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:43,199
Speaker 10: Interest how cool is it awesome to See carter And

931
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,519
i'm jacket taken here in the same.

932
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 8: Round? Awesome, Yeah Like i've grown pretty close to those

933
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,559
guys playing at The INN tvp with. Them they just

934
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,519
seeing with your close friends and eight guys you've went

935
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:56,280
through the battles, with see them get.

936
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: Drafted it's it's, great Bel thank. You what's your biggest

937
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,719
straight IN nhl?

938
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,519
Speaker 8: PAIR i think MY nhl comparison would Be Josh, Anderson

939
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,480
BUT i think my biggest strength is probably my ability

940
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,920
to use my size and, strength my advantage to be

941
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,360
able to create space with and without the puck using

942
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,400
just my big frame and.

943
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 10: Body what are you working on this.

944
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,639
Speaker 13: Summer big area.

945
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,599
Speaker 8: Of IMPROVEMENT i think in something That i'm trying to

946
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:24,440
work on this summer as my skating skating, efficiency just

947
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,400
being able to get out of the gate a little bit,

948
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,039
faster working on my first three steps and being a

949
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:29,519
little bit more.

950
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 10: Explosive you've got come of baut because of the sea

951
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,519
from your college hockey like tough.

952
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:34,599
Speaker 3: Transition, yeah it's.

953
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 8: Definitely the pace definitely picks, up AND i think your

954
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,480
weaknesses really start to show the higher you go.

955
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:41,199
Speaker 3: UP i think IF i can.

956
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 8: Improve on my first three, STEPS i think it can

957
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,480
open up a ton of time and space for, me

958
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:48,239
and it can just maybe a little bit better of a.

959
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 3: Player you can get more points on the more.

960
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 8: Next YEAR i. Do, YEAH i personally believe that there's

961
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,360
gonna be a lot more. POINTS i THINK i have

962
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,960
a lot more to show, offensively AND i think that's

963
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:01,960
the belief THAT i. HAVE i believe, MYSELF i believe my,

964
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,159
abilities AND i believe in the work THAT i put.

965
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 10: In what do you think about the rumor of future

966
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,519
teammates you.

967
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:09,559
Speaker 3: Might, Have, yeah it's.

968
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,519
Speaker 8: Great great. Teammates Carson norwark like he obviously played with

969
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:14,559
him At michigan.

970
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 6: State he's Just he's a.

971
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 8: GUY i can't say enough good things about just a wonderful,

972
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,960
teammate wonderful, player and just a great guy off the.

973
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:24,119
ICE i love hanging out with, him AND i just

974
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:25,679
love he's a good, LEADER i think.

975
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: Too so you think he put in a good work for,

976
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,760
YOU i think he.

977
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 8: DID i hope he. Did but, yeah, he knowing him

978
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,360
and the type of person he, is he probably.

979
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 6: Did what was the transition like going from THE Usahl, Soficia.

980
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 8: Yeah it's a college hockey's smarter, like it's just. Smarter

981
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:44,800
the pace picks. Up it's the guys are, bigger, stronger.

982
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,039
Faster BUT i think playing in THE, ushl playing at

983
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:51,079
the AND, TDP i thought that program really helped me

984
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:53,800
learn and develop and mature as a player in. PERSON

985
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,360
i think that made my transition a lot.

986
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 5: Smooter do you.

987
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: Think you're strengthening your physicality and your size helped you

988
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:01,360
transition From.

989
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:03,679
Speaker 1: For?

990
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 8: SURE i think the style game THAT i play fits

991
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,480
into a college hockey style of, game AND i think

992
00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:13,320
my strengths compliment that type of game a little bit.

993
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,639
Speaker 5: Better, victor this has been a, whirlwind And i'm sure

994
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,039
even more so than you any final thoughts on this

995
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:23,559
draft before we close it? Out and why don't we

996
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:27,559
just all do our rookie drafts? Tomorrow, yeah all of?

997
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: Them And when's one THING i would say THAT i

998
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,239
don't know That i've said on the podcast, yet but

999
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:34,480
one of the NAMES i did, Mention i've been Ry.

1000
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,840
Apkin and the MORE i talk to play to people

1001
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,639
About ryapkin and you never liked the bad mouth, anyone

1002
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,920
BUT i would just caution anyone from drafting. Him i'm

1003
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,840
just not sure that he's the type of player that

1004
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,119
is going to make it into THE. Nhl and he

1005
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,559
certainly had a STRONG ushl season after coming over From,

1006
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:57,000
russia but the More i've heard about his off ice,

1007
00:48:57,079 --> 00:48:59,639
issues the More i'm concerned about. That AND i know In,

1008
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,000
fanta you don't necessarily have to care about that because

1009
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:04,400
you're not bringing him into your organization and you don't

1010
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,239
need to worry about all those. Things BUT i still

1011
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,000
just think that he's really going to struggle to find

1012
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:13,039
a role in AN nhl team because of those off ice.

1013
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:15,719
Issues so, Personally i'm not drafting. Him he's not on

1014
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,280
my do not draft, list AND i don't think he's

1015
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:18,840
going to play in the.

1016
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 5: League let's take a brief, break come back and talk

1017
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:23,320
some more.

1018
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:36,199
Speaker 13: Prospects christian As shock you an apologize wasn't really familiar

1019
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:37,320
with your, game and you know how.

1020
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 5: Casual, victor we should talk a little bit about how

1021
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,000
different your takes are from a fantasy, perspective just overall

1022
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,840
than WHAT nhl gms did when they drafted these, players

1023
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,639
because this is pretty dramatically. Different this isn't just one to,

1024
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:01,159
twelve but in a different, order and Maybe victor snuck

1025
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:04,639
in number. Fifteen this is some pretty significant. Differences so

1026
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:06,440
we're just going to talk about some of the guys

1027
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:12,039
who you, had probably most different from way THE nhl draft.

1028
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,199
Did there were a couple of guys high up in

1029
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,599
the draft who, drop and that that caused picks, six

1030
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,119
seven and eight to rise to your, three four and.

1031
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,719
Five but let's talk about. Those Porter, Marton James HAGEN'S

1032
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,000
jc O'Brien in the real draft six, seven, eight in your,

1033
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:30,440
draft you'd go, three, four.

1034
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: Five, yeah. DEFINITELY i think that the Reason martone fell

1035
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,719
is because he's a, winger and wingers tend to. Fall

1036
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,320
smaller wingers fell a, lot So martone only falling a few,

1037
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,280
spots maybe higher than he should have. Been was actually

1038
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,239
pretty good for, him AND i think his bashing points

1039
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,159
upside just make him that much higher for. Me hagen's

1040
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:53,920
has huge points, upside but he's not going to. Bash

1041
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:56,360
but he probably is a. CENTER i think that's the.

1042
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,320
Question is he a winger or. Center he might slide

1043
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,599
to the wing if he's a. Center that's part of

1044
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:02,360
the reason why he went as high as he did

1045
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,199
and didn't slide even. More BUT i really think he

1046
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,119
has pretty big points, upside so that's WHY i have him.

1047
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:12,360
Higher and certainly some of the OTHER gms OR nhl

1048
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,079
players went higher because they're a little bit bigger and more.

1049
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:19,800
Physical there was a lot of, that and that's Why

1050
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,320
Brady martin went so high was because because he bangs

1051
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,719
a lot And day one, a which we'll talk about.

1052
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,519
Later and Then, JACOBRIEN i think part of the reason

1053
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:33,480
why he went where he did was that he's not as,

1054
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,360
physical so that's why he went. Eighth BUT i Think

1055
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,800
seattle had to take him where they wanted where they

1056
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,960
took him because he has super high points. Upside jacobrien

1057
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:47,000
probably has top three points upside in this. Draft it's

1058
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:49,000
just he doesn't really shoot a lot and it's mostly,

1059
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,079
assists and so he needs to learn how to be

1060
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,039
a little bit more selfish with the. Puck and he's

1061
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:55,760
not very, physical so the concern is that he's going

1062
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,559
to get pushed off the puck and get pushed around,

1063
00:51:57,559 --> 00:51:59,800
more and so that's part of the reason why he went.

1064
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,039
Late but, yeah these guys all have super high points

1065
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:04,800
upside and that's WHY i have him a little bit.

1066
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,199
Higher and Then martine also with the, bash is why

1067
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:08,760
he's the top of the. Three the other two don't

1068
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,199
bash very.

1069
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,079
Speaker 5: MUCH a number six, victory this is a big. Riser

1070
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:17,079
Justin carboneau was actually drafted number nineteen by The Saint Louis.

1071
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:20,519
Blues you had him thirteen slots higher than THE nhl

1072
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:23,519
does up at pick number. Six tell us About Justin.

1073
00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:29,159
Speaker 3: Carboneau, yeah AND i put my money where my mouth. Is,

1074
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:32,400
today our Tidy admiral AND I ryan are in a

1075
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,079
league together and the skull thirty, two and we had

1076
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:42,039
the what was it the seventh overall pick and, wait

1077
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:45,480
let me just double check, here, one, two, three, four, five, Six,

1078
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:49,840
yeah and we decided to put our money where our

1079
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,480
mouth is and Take Justin, carbonou by the, way in

1080
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,199
case people were, wondering and When Misa Schaeffer Marton hagen's

1081
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,679
day O a, O'Brien WHICH i probably would have, GONE

1082
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,199
i would have, Gone we would have gone Dion a

1083
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,639
O'Brien if he was But carboneau was the one that was,

1084
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,599
left and so we took him ahead Of frontdella McQueen And,

1085
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,159
eckland which he had the two were. Considering but back

1086
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:11,199
to your, Question carboneau is one of the few guys

1087
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,079
after fifteen who has point per game, upside one of

1088
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:16,800
the few players in this whole draft that has point

1089
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,639
per game. Upside and he also. Bashes he's very, physical he,

1090
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,840
hits he, scores he does all the. Things the reason

1091
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,239
why he fell is because he's a winger and he's

1092
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,840
not necessarily the best two. Way he's not so great.

1093
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,960
Defensively but he did show improvement and he did show,

1094
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,519
effort and so that's Why i'm confident in taking him

1095
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:36,360
where he, is BECAUSE i think with the right coaching

1096
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,719
and the right, structure he can get. There And Justin

1097
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,719
CARBONEAU i believe can be a first line player in THE,

1098
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,599
nhl and that's the REASON i have him so.

1099
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 5: High and then we know you were a great friend

1100
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,960
to The Victor, ekland to The eckland. Family number, seven

1101
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,719
you've Got Victor, eckland where he actually felt to number

1102
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,320
sixteen in THE nhl. Draft why do you have him that?

1103
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,599
Speaker 3: High us were confused why he fell so, much, because,

1104
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:04,880
okay he's a, winger and yes he's a little bit

1105
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,599
smaller five to, eleven But Victor eckland doesn't play like

1106
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:09,559
a five to eleven. Winger he plays like he's six

1107
00:54:09,639 --> 00:54:12,920
foot five and a wrecking. Ball he's very, physical he's very.

1108
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,840
Disruptive he's the type of winger you can put out

1109
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,119
there in any. Situation he can get the puck back from.

1110
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:19,880
You he's a menace on the ford. Check he's got

1111
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,119
really good offensive instincts. Too he can get you a

1112
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:25,039
goal if you're. Down he's he's just a treat of a.

1113
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:28,039
Player SO i don't none of us could really understand

1114
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:31,400
why they he fell so. LONG i think it really

1115
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,639
basically comes down to centers and defense went. First centers

1116
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:38,519
and defense went, first And Victor eckland fell the last

1117
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:41,800
winger if you look at, it basically the only winger

1118
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,880
that went ahead Of Victor ecklund was port Of, marton

1119
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:47,760
and that's. Reasonable it's reasonable to Take martone Over. Eckland

1120
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,400
and then it was centers and. Defense of, COURSE i

1121
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,119
don't know that all those guys are actually going to be,

1122
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:54,199
centers but they the teams think that they can be,

1123
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,039
centers and so that's why he fell so. Long and

1124
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:59,840
then actually you See Cole reshchnie and a couple of

1125
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,360
guys that probably can be, centers like bill's On on

1126
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,519
And Will, horcoff but those guys have much much lower points,

1127
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:09,280
upside they but they probably are. Centers and so, yeah the,

1128
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:12,039
lower the smaller sellar centers just fell so so. Much

1129
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,360
BUT i don't think you should be concerned About ecklynn

1130
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,199
because although he's not a, center but in, fantasy you

1131
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:19,480
should definitely raise his stock because as we talked about,

1132
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,480
earlier it's a little bit easier to have those wingers

1133
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,480
become fantasy.

1134
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 5: Relevant Anton, frondell there's reason That, Martina haagens and O'Brien

1135
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,519
were able to, Rise and the first reason Is Anton

1136
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,519
frondell falls in your rankings from his number three pick

1137
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,719
to your number eight. Ranking you said he's got offensive,

1138
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,840
upside he's going into a wide open situation In. Chicago

1139
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:41,880
what's the deal With?

1140
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: Frondell, YEAH i think the issue With frondell is That

1141
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,239
i'm just not convinced how much his offense is going to.

1142
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,880
Translate AND i asked EVERYBODY i could about that and

1143
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,440
they all, said it'll. Translate i'm not worried about. It

1144
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,199
but then WHEN i pressed him is to what does

1145
00:55:58,199 --> 00:56:00,800
that really? Mean does this mean he's like a seventy

1146
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,039
to eighty point? Player and they said, NO i think

1147
00:56:03,079 --> 00:56:06,440
it's lower than. That, okay so if your physical sixty point,

1148
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:11,239
center how? Exciting is that not super? Exciting SO i

1149
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,400
think there's it really hedges on is he seventy plus

1150
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:17,719
or is he sixty? Ish because that's a big difference in.

1151
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,880
Fantasy SO i don't think he's as high As. Ekln

1152
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,800
in every tournament he, played every, game he played all

1153
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,039
the every situation Where eckland And frondell played, Together eckland

1154
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,400
was the better. Player he didn't always score, more but

1155
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,440
he was he created, more and he was the better.

1156
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,199
Player so that's part of the. REASON i also refuse

1157
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,679
to Put frondell ahead Of, eckland even though he went

1158
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,559
ahead of him in THE Nhl. DRAFT i just Think

1159
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,880
eckland is a better fantasy asset and probably a better

1160
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,360
player all, around except For eckland is probably not a,

1161
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,360
center And frondell maybe is.

1162
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,639
Speaker 5: The next guy with big enough difference for us to

1163
00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:57,440
be talking. About Joshua. Ravensbergen we've talked about him a little,

1164
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,599
bit but you like him going all the way up

1165
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:02,159
from thirty in THE nhl draft. Too you have him

1166
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,480
at number, ten twenty spots. Above what makes him such

1167
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,800
an elite goalie prospect for this, Draft.

1168
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: WELL i think it's more that the other skaters aren't as.

1169
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,000
Good that's really what it comes down. To it's not

1170
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:17,119
THAT i like him that much. More it's not Like

1171
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:20,559
walstad and a Scar, off where who are legitimately better

1172
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:22,840
than a lot of the skaters. AVAILABLE i just think

1173
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,320
that a lot of the skaters aren't as. GOOD i

1174
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,599
think it's a significant question if you're saying WHAT i

1175
00:57:27,639 --> 00:57:30,320
Take reshnie or WHAT i take one of these other

1176
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,000
skaters a little bit later as opposed To, RAVENSBERGEN i

1177
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,679
think it would be a difficult, choice and it depends

1178
00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:36,840
on your. Team BUT i think what it comes down

1179
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,440
to Is ravensbergen has certainly the upside to be at

1180
00:57:39,519 --> 00:57:42,840
number one starting goalie in THE, nhl and that's more

1181
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,440
than a lot of these skaters have that are probably

1182
00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:48,280
second line at, best and so that's WHY i have

1183
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:48,639
him so.

1184
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 5: High, okay and other guys we've talked about in this

1185
00:57:56,639 --> 00:58:00,599
episode or these, Episodes Cole reshnie goes to The Calvarry

1186
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:03,719
flames at number, eighteen but you have him at number.

1187
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,760
Eleven why Is reshne a riser.

1188
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: Because he And carboneau are really the only two after

1189
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:14,639
pick fifteen THAT i think can be top line. Players With,

1190
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,760
Reshnie i'm a little less. Convinced that's WHY i have

1191
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,199
him a little bit. Lower but he certainly has the,

1192
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,239
Upside so that's why there's a little bit more. Volatility

1193
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,039
that's why he's a little bit. Lower BUT i Think

1194
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:27,880
Cole reshnie is pretty much the last of that group

1195
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,719
that has significant line. Upside and so, yeah he's definitely

1196
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:35,840
a fantasy the much more valuable than in real.

1197
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,239
Speaker 5: Life and then the Quarterback Mason. West you have him

1198
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,159
up at number, twelve whereas he actually went at number twenty.

1199
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,119
Nine what makes the big fella from The Twin cities

1200
00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:51,000
a guy who goes higher up on your board.

1201
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: Just so much, upside so much, risk but so much.

1202
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,920
UPSIDE i think when you're getting into that, RANGE i

1203
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,440
don't know THAT i would take him at. Twelve it

1204
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:02,280
Really in, Fact ryan AND i were talking about where

1205
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,440
would we Take Mason. West it probably would be somewhere

1206
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,519
in the, teens maybe early, teens maybe middle, teens depending

1207
00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:10,360
on what was. Left it depends on who else is

1208
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,519
reaching in your draft and what the setup of your league.

1209
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:15,599
Is but certainly in a situation where IF i had

1210
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:17,800
multiple first round, picks or IF i had multiple picks

1211
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,719
in this, AREA i would probably throw one At Mason

1212
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,760
west because and IF i, could IF i could stand

1213
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,280
to wait that long to have someone be, productive THEN

1214
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,239
i think he's worth it because upside is just so dang.

1215
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 5: Appealing and then again, AGAIN i talked about some guys

1216
00:59:33,519 --> 00:59:35,679
who dropped a little bit you and you just mentioned

1217
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:39,400
that you would think about Drafting caleb dan O yer pretty.

1218
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,320
High but he And Brady martin slipped from four and

1219
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,480
five in the regular draft to thirteen and fourteen on your,

1220
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:47,199
board so you must be a little bit lower on these.

1221
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah and that's a little. Misleading so it's not

1222
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,840
THAT i like The Mason west better than those. GUYS

1223
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,639
i Have Mason west at a seven point, eight which

1224
00:59:56,679 --> 00:59:59,360
means an eight percent chance of being a, Seven but

1225
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:02,960
they Are martin And Carter bharer actually are super high

1226
01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:05,880
percent chance of being a. Six so those guys are

1227
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,840
locks to be above average roster players on your fantasy.

1228
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,800
TEAM i just don't think the upside is as. High

1229
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,559
so While Mason west has a bigger, upside he also

1230
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:17,679
has a much lower floor and that's hard to represent

1231
01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:21,239
in the. Numbers so that's misleading to, say which is

1232
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,480
not exactly what you, said but it's misleading to think

1233
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,320
that made THAT i Like Mason west more Than Deone

1234
01:00:26,519 --> 01:00:28,920
martin and some of the other guys after. That it's

1235
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,960
not it's just THAT i think that his upside is.

1236
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:34,320
Higher BUT, dna it comes back, to is the And

1237
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,880
Brady martin really is the? Same is the points upside

1238
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,360
high enough to get that excited about? It because both

1239
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,360
those guys AND i would Throw carter Bhar, in they're

1240
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:47,119
all bash a. Lot but what is the points? Upside

1241
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:49,039
AND i asked EVERYONE i could about, that and they

1242
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:53,000
all said fifty to sixty Points, okay so you have

1243
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:57,000
a fifty to sixty point. Basher that's. Good that's a,

1244
01:00:57,079 --> 01:00:59,440
value that's a valuable asset in. Fantasy but is it.

1245
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,559
Elite it's Not Brady, kochuk it's Not Matthew, kuchuk it's

1246
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:05,559
not A, zovechkin it's not any of those guys that

1247
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,280
we know and. Love it's a step a tier or

1248
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,400
two tiers below. That so that's why they're a little bit.

1249
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Lower and that's what you have to keep in. Mind

1250
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,199
BUT i do think that Especially martin And dao AND

1251
01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:19,519
A i'm a lot higher on Because i'm sure that

1252
01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:21,760
he can be a. CENTER i like his landing. Spot

1253
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,599
he will probably get some looks on the top power

1254
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:27,639
play in there In. Utah and he's a, basher he's a,

1255
01:01:27,679 --> 01:01:32,119
banger and he can score some. Points so if you're

1256
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:34,199
like centers and they're valuable in your league for face

1257
01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:35,960
off wins and, that THEN i really Like. DAO A,

1258
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:39,119
Martin i'm a little bit more worried that he's more

1259
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:41,599
of a middle, sixer could be pushed down to the third.

1260
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:43,239
LINE i think if you try to Make Brady martin

1261
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,920
your top line, center that might not work. Out so,

1262
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,280
well So i'm just a little bit more concerned about that.

1263
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,159
One but, yeah that's, WHY i just don't think the

1264
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:51,719
points upside is, there and that's a big.

1265
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:58,639
Speaker 5: Concern and next up you've mentioned him, earlier but another

1266
01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:00,599
of your guys who rows up a lot because he

1267
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:03,079
was a, goalie but by far your biggest riser at

1268
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:06,199
this point in the, draft But Terry, rimpinen who is

1269
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,559
number sixteen on your. Board.

1270
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:12,199
Speaker 3: Victor, yeah, again just because the rest of the skaters

1271
01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:15,039
aren't very. Exciting SO i would take Rimpin in who

1272
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:16,920
has a chance to be a starter in this. LEAGUE

1273
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,320
i don't know that it's as strong, likelihood but he

1274
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,960
has that, possibility SO i would take him over some

1275
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,800
of the other options at that. Point, basically after like pick,

1276
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,079
Fifteen i'm probably looking to just grab a goalie or

1277
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:31,199
two BECAUSE i think the upside is much stronger for

1278
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:32,840
the goalies than it is for the skaters in this.

1279
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,519
Speaker 5: Draft, well one guy you had in that range actually

1280
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:40,519
went in the second round Of, seattle a, defenseman but

1281
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:43,400
you have him seventeen in your. Ranks Blake, fiddler the

1282
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,679
defenseman For. Seattle what's the story? Here why does he

1283
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,880
rise so much a couple of.

1284
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:53,039
Speaker 3: Reasons he's, big he's right, handed he's, physical he moves really,

1285
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:57,199
well and he's really. Young he's still seventeen and his

1286
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,119
dad Is Ernon, fidler who played like a thousand games THE.

1287
01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:04,119
Nhl so he has the, pedigree he has to know.

1288
01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:07,400
How he has the, frame he has the physical. TOOLS

1289
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:09,760
i don't know that he's put it all together, yet

1290
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,679
but he also plays on it played. Well he left

1291
01:03:12,679 --> 01:03:15,079
THE usntp to go to The Edmonton Oil, kings which

1292
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:16,880
is probably a good move because he got a little

1293
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,079
bit more, opportunity but he'll get even more opportunity next

1294
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:22,320
year once he's been there for a. Year he didn't

1295
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,559
get all the prime opportunities because he came a little

1296
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:26,760
bit later to the. Game but he's someone WHO i

1297
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,679
could see just absolutely popping off next year because he'll

1298
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:32,000
have another year familiarity with the, team he'll have a

1299
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:35,199
little bit more investment from the, organization and he'll just

1300
01:03:35,239 --> 01:03:37,360
be a year older because he's still seventeen for another

1301
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:40,119
at the time we're recording this another week give him

1302
01:03:40,119 --> 01:03:42,760
a little bit more time to fill into his frame

1303
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,400
and to have a summer training. Program AND i THINK

1304
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,639
i Think Blake fiddler could be one of the surprises

1305
01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:50,000
in the next year or two to come out of

1306
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,280
this draft and maybe push into that conversation of one

1307
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,719
of the top defensemen from this. Draft right. NOW i

1308
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:56,800
think he's he's up, there BUT i think he's in

1309
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,840
the back half of who we're really excited, about but

1310
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:03,760
has so much untapped potential that he could push himself

1311
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,280
into that top s.

1312
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,199
Speaker 5: ONE i love, It. Victor we will be right back

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01:04:10,239 --> 01:04:10,880
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01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:21,679
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