1 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Game Informer Show, a weekly podcast 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,239 covering the video game industry. Join us every Thursday for 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,120 discussion of the latest gaming news, reviews, in exclusive reveals, 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,559 onside game of Former staff, and special guests from around 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,440 the industry. I'm one of your hosts today, Alex van Aiken. 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,880 I'm joined by Marcus Stewart. How you doing, Marcus? 7 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,039 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing well. How are you, Alex? 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,079 Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. I'm feeling rejuvenated after our last conversation 9 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:48,039 in the hotel suite. You know, I like not recording 10 00:00:48,039 --> 00:00:49,759 this at ten pm at night. I feel like I 11 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:52,920 have generally more to give at this epident. 12 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: That's when all the spicy stuff comes out, though late 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,640 at night. 14 00:00:56,399 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. Well. Also joining us is Charles Heart. 15 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:01,920 How you doing, Charles? 16 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: Hello, I'm good. I just just came back from seeing 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,680 SGF Super Good Friends. 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,879 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Super Good Friends, We're joined today by 19 00:01:13,519 --> 00:01:18,159 Eric van Allen, returning guest friend of the show. Hello, Eric, 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,680 how are you. 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,719 Speaker 4: I know about super good that's a little presumptuous, like 22 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:26,719 like kind good, like like okay friends? Maybe yeah? Hello. 23 00:01:27,239 --> 00:01:30,079 I was also at the summer Jeff fest as I 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:30,920 call it. 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,599 Speaker 3: Alex, you just got you just got You just tried 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,040 to super friend zone Eric and somehow got normal friend zone. 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got friends back. 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know it's real, and I 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,799 know we are super friends. But of course Eric, people 30 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:50,319 don't know you. You are from Acts of the Blood God. 31 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:53,000 You prevols. I mean your bylines. You have bylines everywhere 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,760 I g N, Washington Post, Polygon, of course your own podcast, 33 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:00,680 Normandy f M. In addition to Act the Blood God, 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,159 You've kind of been everywhere. But just so people know 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,439 who we got on here, we got we got a 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,439 games media expert on here. Today. We're gonna be talking 37 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:11,560 about a lot of fun stuff. We're gonna be kind 38 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:14,280 of doing a summer game fest rapid Fire, just to 39 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:18,479 clean up the last of our impressions. I actually just 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,719 thought of another one I want to talk about, but 41 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:23,560 we're gonna be talking about that first, and we're gonna 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,240 get into a very big and hindu switch to review discussion. 43 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,439 Last week, we had Rogers Base on the show. Loved 44 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:33,000 having him on, loved his energy and just his deep 45 00:02:33,039 --> 00:02:35,800 knowledge of Mario Kart World. Finding out how to unlock 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,199 the mirror mode that was awesome. But we now have 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,120 all kind of put our own time into the console, 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,159 and I think we have some pretty robust thoughts on 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,879 the console the games all that also gonna be covering 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,879 Magic Gathering X Final Fantasy That set is finally out. 51 00:02:55,159 --> 00:02:57,800 I actually have a couple of packs. Maybe we'll open 52 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,560 live on the show. 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: Are you gonna get that gold choke a bo Man? 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: I hope? Later on, Charles is gonna be talking FBC 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,919 Firebreak with us, the new multiplayer spinoff of Control by Remedy, 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,639 Mark is gonna be talking about the Altars and Lost 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,199 in Random, and then finally I'm gonna be talking about 58 00:03:17,319 --> 00:03:20,360 Fantasy Life Eye alongside Eric. So it's gonna be a 59 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,800 packed show. It's gonna be good. Thank you for being 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,599 here with us. Really appreciate all of the support the 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,479 past couple of weeks as we've relaunched the podcast. It's 62 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:32,479 been great to see your comments. If you, I guess, 63 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,319 hello podcat cast users, you haven't gotten our podcasts until 64 00:03:37,639 --> 00:03:42,400 they finally updated our podcast page today, so you're about 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,479 to get like four episodes in your feet at once. 66 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:48,560 But welcome back. Good to have you here. Just some 67 00:03:48,719 --> 00:03:52,879 quick housekeeping before we get started get a Game Informer 68 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:56,080 subscription today. It's it's a really great way to help 69 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:58,319 us out, and I guess we can. We can officially 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,159 now announce that our first cover story is on border Lands. 71 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,000 For now, we aren't going to be getting into the 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,400 details of that today. Next week, myself, Brian Sheha, we 73 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,280 were the ones who went out to Gearbox to play 74 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:16,160 the game, interview the team, learn about its development and 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,160 a lot of the changes that it's bringing to the 76 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:21,560 table in this new installment. We're going to be diving 77 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,560 into that next week on once we officially show off 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,040 our actual magazine cover I believe on Tuesday, so stay 79 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,920 tuned for that. But I did want to put that 80 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,199 out there, so if you're wanting to get that cover story, 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,079 you have until we have early bird pricing through June 82 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:39,959 twenty third. 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It's probably going to be a little bigger. 94 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:12,959 We're still iron out the details, but we want to 95 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:15,160 make that end of year cover and the end of 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,480 your issue rather really something special to celebrate the year 97 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:21,480 of games. So all that forty five dollars, you also 98 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:25,040 get digital access. You get reduced ads on our website 99 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,319 alongside website and digital exclusive articles that you won't be 100 00:05:30,319 --> 00:05:33,439 able to read otherwise. So we really appreciate your suport. 101 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:36,079 With that, I think we can get into the show 102 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Summer game Fest. Obviously, we talked about it a lot 103 00:05:40,079 --> 00:05:43,600 last week. There was so much to play last week. 104 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:46,639 I was really thinking during our podcast last week, Wow, 105 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,240 I'm really only hitting probably twenty percent of what I played. 106 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:53,000 And so we're going to try to rapid fire get 107 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,079 through these. But Charles, I'm gonna send it over to 108 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,160 you first. You've got a few you want to talk about. 109 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,439 What you want to talkalk about? 110 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So I'm gonna keep it fast and tight, 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,639 fast and tight like the Flash. 112 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:09,199 Speaker 4: I don't know. 113 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I kind of butcher I kind of butchered 114 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:14,040 that he wears. 115 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: A tight suit. 116 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah. 117 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: You know, I appreciate you. No, I appreciate you. Try 118 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:27,959 to save me even though played a game called uh 119 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,439 End of Abyss. This is one of the games Epic 120 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,240 is publishing. 121 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:33,079 Speaker 1: It is. 122 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I took a bunch of Epic Game appointments from 123 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,279 Alex and they were, yeah, I'm. 124 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Really sad, yeah, Alex for me, and the Abass looked 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,759 like that was previously it didn't have a title, but 126 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:52,519 that's the the Section nine game or the Yeah. 127 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: It's a top down twin stick metroid Vania kind of 128 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,000 in the vein of a lot of like Soul's Life, 129 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:02,319 like Metrovena hybrids. You see a lot like a hollow 130 00:07:02,399 --> 00:07:06,959 night type and aesthetically kind of reminded me of like 131 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,720 if you did Tunic Button Metroid. So it's got the 132 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:14,519 aesthetics of what I felt like an old Metroid. There's 133 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:16,439 a button to scan things like you do in Metroid 134 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:18,079 Prime that helps you do stuff, and you're unlocking new 135 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:21,920 weapons to explore the world. Really great, tough combat, really 136 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:25,480 great atmosphere. Really like that game. Then I played a 137 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:28,680 game called Out of Words, which I think used to 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,920 be called Vocabulantis and they changed it. 139 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:33,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the best name change of the show. 140 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:35,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. 141 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:40,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great co op I'm gonna call it, and 142 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:42,560 it takes too like for lack of a better term, 143 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,759 but it's a co op game. Has to be played 144 00:07:44,759 --> 00:07:50,319 co op two people, stop motion animated, so it's absolutely gorgeous. 145 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:53,920 All the backgrounds and stuff are all handmade and like 146 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,800 it takes too You go through a bunch of different 147 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,920 worlds and there's very unique mechanics. It starts out as 148 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:03,519 you guys throw a little like magic manta ray back 149 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:06,680 and forth and whoever has it, they're gravity goes upwards 150 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,639 so they're walking on the ceiling the other person's down 151 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,399 and you have to like toss it to other person 152 00:08:10,439 --> 00:08:12,800 the time, like unique jumps and stuff, which is really cool. 153 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,120 A manta I think it's yeah, like it's like a 154 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:18,560 cute little blue manta ray. 155 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:21,759 Speaker 2: That's cool. That's just just the random animal. I guess 156 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,519 it definitely is also can I I take exceptions? It 157 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:27,720 takes two likes. I think you need Adventures of cookies 158 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,680 and cream likes. 159 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. 160 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: Cookie it's from software. 161 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: No, I like, I like cookie like. I like that 162 00:08:36,279 --> 00:08:41,879 as a term. I'll use it. Well. I like there's cream, 163 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:43,879 so should we cream like? 164 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull up on the ares of cookies 165 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:51,600 and cream? 166 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: Does no one else know this game from software? 167 00:08:55,799 --> 00:08:58,519 Speaker 3: I'm trying. I'm trying to make this fast and tight, 168 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,000 and you're bringing in cream likes into the mix. 169 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:09,519 Speaker 2: The flash, flashy, slow and loose. No, but it's very good. 170 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna say. The other mechanics, so that's one 171 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,679 where you're still platforming, you're throwing a mechanic back and forth. 172 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:15,799 Then I saw a later section of the game where 173 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:20,440 you basically find this old primordial clay and you glob 174 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,519 into one clay monster and each player controls one of 175 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,519 the clay monster's arms and you like swing around the 176 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,440 level really. 177 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: Fast and this stuff. 178 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,759 Speaker 3: So that was like a taste of like how different 179 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:34,399 they can be. That was like very promising, and it's 180 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:36,240 a game that looked good. But when I was playing it, 181 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,720 I was price how good it felt to play. And 182 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,519 a lot of times those games, there's a lot of 183 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,360 games that look good that don't necessarily play good, and 184 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,440 this seems like it has both. Nice Next, I played 185 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,440 sort of the Sea Giant Squeak. 186 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:49,639 Speaker 2: I'm excited. 187 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: This is the people that made The Pathless absoo, and 188 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,440 that's the art director that worked on Journey composer also 189 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,000 wentry back to the score. It is like a uh, 190 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,759 skating surfing game in the desert where you can just 191 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,360 flip around and do tricks. And that's not that's that's 192 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,960 just for fun. It's mostly like a adventure game. We're 193 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,039 going around unlocking the world and there's this really cool 194 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,360 visual effects where you'll activate these like blue beacons and 195 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:18,519 then the sand will turn into water, and so you're 196 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,120 surfing on the water and then off the water onto 197 00:10:21,159 --> 00:10:25,320 the sand. It's just like very visually breath taking, minimal 198 00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:29,480 text to explain, you know, what the world is. But 199 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,519 it was very very good game. 200 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: With that and you and and real quick, sorry, this 201 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,759 is just one I'm really interested in. Yeah, yeah, you said, 202 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:40,279 how are you You're kind of just exploring the world. 203 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,080 Are there things you're supposed to be finding? Is it 204 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,039 is it? Does it? Does it reveal yourself like as 205 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:46,720 you're playing it? 206 00:10:47,799 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so so for example, it started out it's 207 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,960 it's a linear game. So we start out and you're 208 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,639 in like one area and then it opens up and 209 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,039 it's a pretty big open world zone. And I picked 210 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,480 up that Okay, there's these two statues on this one 211 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,919 big like sand temple, and I can go to the 212 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,559 left and then eventually open that one statue that opens 213 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,080 a path door and then open up the other half 214 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,279 of the door in this other place. So it's all linear, 215 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,960 but it's reminiscent of other games that the studio has 216 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,279 done where it's like you have these big open spaces 217 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,120 that are like fun to move around, but it is 218 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,840 ultimately very linear. Cool, and there's you can like unlock 219 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:26,759 new tricks and. 220 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: Stuff, which is tricks can you like the first. 221 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,159 Speaker 3: Button you get is the trick button, and then the 222 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,240 second button you get is the advanced tricks button. You 223 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:39,759 can hold you can hold like the bumper and then 224 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:41,480 press a bunch of buttons in the air to do 225 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,840 like different poses. And that was just the intro, Like 226 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,000 maybe they get really crazy. I don't think they have 227 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:47,200 any gameplay benefits. 228 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: It's just for fun, okay, score system or anything. 229 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:53,639 Speaker 3: Just well, they did actually tell me there is a 230 00:11:53,759 --> 00:11:57,320 hidden score system in the game. Matt Navia, the creative director, 231 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,000 told me, when you beat the game after the credits, 232 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,039 it will tell you your score, your trick point score, and 233 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:06,000 then when you played the game again a new game, plus, 234 00:12:06,039 --> 00:12:08,159 you can opt to have the score meter on the 235 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,600 screen if you just want to like brack up points 236 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,279 for some reason. 237 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: Okay, so I hope you can do. 238 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: Christ there. 239 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: Just insane stuff. And then my last one I played 240 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,559 I couldn't talk about until today June eighteenth, when we're 241 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:30,639 recording is Marvel Cosmic Invasion side scroller Beat Him Up. 242 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:35,480 Playing as Marvel characters. It has that exact great feeling 243 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:39,559 where it's like this this game looks like it came 244 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,600 out in nineteen ninety six, but it feels like it 245 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:44,519 came out today, you know, like it plays exactly how 246 00:12:44,519 --> 00:12:46,879 I wanted to play and how I've like imagine it 247 00:12:46,919 --> 00:12:50,120 should play. But it's got all the quality of life stuff, 248 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:58,159 but like a nice classic aesthetic. I played as spider Man, Storm, Venom, Wolverine, 249 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,759 and at the very end I played at as fila 250 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:06,399 Vel and Captain America, and it's they all felt very different. 251 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:08,440 Flying characters were very fun. I had a lot of 252 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,879 fun playing as Storm, and then some characters block and 253 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:14,159 you can like parry a lot of characters dodge to 254 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,879 get out of the way of stuff. And as you 255 00:13:17,879 --> 00:13:21,120 were going through like the world, there's like chaos happening 256 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:23,200 around you. That's like telling the story in the environment 257 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,399 as you progress. And we like started on the street 258 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,360 and then we fought the Beatle and we went up 259 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:30,080 on like a Shield hell a carrier, and there was 260 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,159 some kind of war going on between Shield and Aim, 261 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,639 and it was kind of a thing where it's like 262 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:35,879 I'm not really paying attention, but I'm fully following along 263 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:38,320 with everything that's happening. It's all just kind of backdrop 264 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:41,399 to just do fun tricks and web people up and 265 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,960 swing around. It's really fun. Oh, each each person plays 266 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,639 has two characters at once also, so you can do 267 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,799 a bunch of like cool combos where you like hit 268 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,720 someone as Spider Man and then swap into Storm and 269 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,919 then swap back to Spider Man. 270 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Okay, And I. 271 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: Believe it's up to four player local or online co op, 272 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,639 so at any given point you can have four people 273 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,399 on screen, I mean, eight different heroes there. You're all 274 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:05,200 collectively swapping between it's really cool. 275 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's thing too? That This is by Tribute Games 276 00:14:08,919 --> 00:14:11,559 who did Team and t Shredder's Revenge. This is their 277 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,039 next thing. 278 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, which you can tell it feels it's got, it's 279 00:14:15,159 --> 00:14:17,480 got the vibe of like this isn't this is a 280 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:18,320 new old game. 281 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's one of those games I don't have 282 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:23,519 a lot of questions about because you kind of see, 283 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,679 you see what it is. Yeah, cool, got it it is. 284 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:29,879 Speaker 3: It looks it plays how it looks like it plays, 285 00:14:29,919 --> 00:14:32,120 which is to say, awesome, all. 286 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,759 Speaker 1: Right, cool, can't wait. How about you, Marcus? 287 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: What even? 288 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: What do you check out at SGF? 289 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:40,919 Speaker 2: I played Blighted, which is drink Box Studios new game 290 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:44,279 drink Box makers of Guaca Melee Severed their last game, 291 00:14:44,279 --> 00:14:47,639 Nobody Saves the World, I'd say compared to the specifically 292 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:49,320 their last two games, like Nobody Saves the World and 293 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,320 Severed blight it's probably a lot more familiar genre wise, 294 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,240 like they're not, at least from what I've seen. It 295 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,000 isn't like too out of the box, like you're playing 296 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:01,840 it's like this kind of esimate isomet view like action 297 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:04,480 game you can play either alone or in co op. 298 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,840 It was one to two players when I was there, 299 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:08,879 I was playing one of the devs, but they were 300 00:15:08,919 --> 00:15:12,120 telling me that they are tinkering with expanding a number 301 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:14,159 of players on screen, so it might be more than 302 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,200 that when it, you know, when it gets closer to launch. 303 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:18,200 But you're going around. You're playing as these kind of 304 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,080 skeleton warriors after your village gets destroyed by this like 305 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,639 bad guy, and like the cool thing about this world 306 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,279 is that, like it kind of has like a meso 307 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,559 American kind of vibe, where like the culture of your 308 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:34,679 village is that when people die, the villagers eat their 309 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,080 brains to like gain their memories and like it like 310 00:15:38,159 --> 00:15:40,960 preserves their memories and their knowledge. And so this bad 311 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,600 guy shows up and kills everyone and just consumes all 312 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:45,960 of their brains, so he has like the sum of 313 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,399 the villagers collective knowledge and abilities. So you're trying to 314 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,759 go get those backs. So you go around fighting a 315 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,519 bunch of bad guys, and you're fighting these giant monsters 316 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:56,799 and eating their brains and that's how you get new 317 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:00,279 powers and like a very like Metroid esque sort of 318 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,919 like ability and like exploration gating, like you're going around 319 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,440 seeing like, oh, I can't get past this until I 320 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,360 eat this guy's brain. But we fought a like weird 321 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,679 spider horse monster. It kind of looked like that water 322 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:16,879 that Poseidon boss and God of War three if he 323 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,399 wasn't covered in water. And then once we ate his brain, 324 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,440 we could summon him and he just shows up as 325 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,039 like a ghost version of himself and just starts like 326 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,039 stomping around on top of doing just like hack and 327 00:16:28,039 --> 00:16:30,480 slash stuff with your scythe weapons. It's got a little 328 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:34,720 bit of souls is nessing it well with like when 329 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,279 you die, you started a bonfire and you got to 330 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,000 go get your things back. So it's like a blend 331 00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:40,480 of different. 332 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:43,559 Speaker 3: Is this like a horror game? Like what is the 333 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,679 aesthetic of because they're described there is some things, but 334 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:50,120 I don't know the studio to be scary, I don't know. 335 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:52,799 Speaker 2: No, it's that it's that same drink box style, like 336 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,279 very colorful, very bright, vibrant. It's like you know how 337 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,080 like nobody says the world or even sever like it's 338 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,240 got like dark stuff, but it's so it's presented in 339 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:04,680 such a bright and weird way that it's like not scary, 340 00:17:04,759 --> 00:17:06,400 it's just weird Okay, I. 341 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: Feel like ever felt more oppressive. 342 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 343 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:12,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that this kind of reminds me more of 344 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:13,319 that when. 345 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,839 Speaker 3: You say eating brains. Is it literally like we see 346 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,160 like skulls get split open and the brains could eat 347 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,160 out or is it like more artistic than that? 348 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: From what I understand, I mean, I think it's pretty literal. 349 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,960 It's like this guy's dead and their brains there and 350 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:33,880 you just eat it. Yeah, there's no metaphors consuming these brains. 351 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,799 Speaker 4: So so I also demoed this, and the way they 352 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:39,519 showed it was like in the culture, they would like 353 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,799 plant they would bury the bodies and then like trees 354 00:17:42,839 --> 00:17:45,119 would spring up and you'd eat the berries, and so 355 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,400 it was like an abstract eating of brains. And then 356 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,960 one dude was like, let's cut out the middle man, guys, 357 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,759 it's a lot of steps, and also let's not wait 358 00:17:55,839 --> 00:17:58,440 until they're dead. Those are good brains, and and he 359 00:17:58,599 --> 00:18:00,519 just started going in on that and then got like 360 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:04,799 corrupted because of it. So I admire like the efficiency. 361 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: But oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 362 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 4: Exactly. It's it's a cool. It's a cool thing and 363 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,240 definitely has those like severed vibes. I really really like Severed, 364 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,839 and so I'm glad to see them like going back 365 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,759 to that sort of style. 366 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I I really it. Also, I mean there 367 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:24,680 are hints of like I was the last game. I'm sorry, 368 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,160 nobody Nobody saves the world. Yeah, well, like you are 369 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:33,000 really kind of collecting in a way, you're collecting brains 370 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:36,079 in that game and using them as transformations, like you 371 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,480 kind of have like a catalog of you know, you 372 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,480 can turn into the horse in that game, and now 373 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:43,039 you can do this, and then there's like elements from 374 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:46,559 that game that like based on what you're saying, like, oh, 375 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,680 there's kind of a similar concept here with like yeah, 376 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:54,359 and it sounds interesting. I really like just the the 377 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,359 that plot, like that, that that setting of oh yeah, 378 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:02,440 brains and what you say, meso America. 379 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:05,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's or it's got that vibe like like a 380 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:11,160 psychedelic meso American like western Ish vibe to it. But yeah, 381 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:16,039 play that. I also checked out over at Atari. Probably 382 00:19:16,039 --> 00:19:18,039 the only game I had no idea what it was 383 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:20,160 because it was sort of like mysterious until I got 384 00:19:20,319 --> 00:19:23,480 they confirm what it was. But it's called Adventure of Samsara. 385 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,119 I don't know if you guys have seen this, but 386 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:31,400 it is a two D metroid vania that is loosely 387 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,759 connected to the adventure the older like the classic Guitari 388 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:40,440 game Adventure. Wow, it's like very foundational to like just 389 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,079 the adventure game genre, like like Zelda probably doesn't exist 390 00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:48,759 without adventure and it's wild, Like I don't think it's 391 00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:51,960 quite as like the closest comparison is like what they 392 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,480 did with what was it yars Y of like taking 393 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,079 one of their classic franchises and reimagining it in sort 394 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:02,240 of like a modern sort of context where you're playing 395 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:05,440 as this night. It's got this very like almost like 396 00:20:05,519 --> 00:20:09,799 rotoscope animation, like like eight bit style where you're going 397 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:13,839 around like just killing monsters basically in like a big 398 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,079 Metroidvenua map. The like the most remarkable thing or interesting 399 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,240 thing for me about it was like outside of the 400 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,480 sort of like loose connections to adventure, like I ran 401 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:27,240 into the Dragon from Adventure at one point, but it 402 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:29,440 is like the animation of like it's a very deliberate 403 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,920 animation style in the way that the original Prince of 404 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,680 Persia is so like when you're climbing up ledges, you 405 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,279 are seeing like, oh, this is this is very fluid 406 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,279 and it takes a little while. And that extends to 407 00:20:39,319 --> 00:20:41,680 the attack animations, like you have a sword and shield, 408 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:44,359 but you can't hold your shield to block. You can 409 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,160 only parry with the shield, so if you want to 410 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,440 dodge things, you have to time it. I will say, though, 411 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:53,720 I think that the parrying mechanics sort of clashes with 412 00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:57,359 the sort of like deliberateness of the animation because there's 413 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,880 so many frames to like pulling your shield at that 414 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,480 you really kind of have the plan in advance, like Okay, 415 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:04,319 I have to tap it like a second and a 416 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,319 half earlier because I have to wait for him to 417 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,759 pull his shield out all the way to deflect this 418 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,240 like sowred strike coming my way. And that was really 419 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,799 messing with me. And like, I love Perry mechanics and games, 420 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:17,680 but you're so used. I'm so used to it to 421 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:20,640 being like you know, faster pace like kind of reflex 422 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,599 based things, so like having it in a more slowed 423 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,319 and deliberate fashion. I don't think I'm entirely in love 424 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,000 with Like I kind of got used to it during 425 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:31,680 my like thirty minutes I played to it, but I 426 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,160 was like, I don't know about this. But other than that, 427 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,240 it's like it's like it didn't blow me away as 428 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,079 someone that is like a metro danea Siko. But I 429 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,759 think just the idea of just resurrecting adventure in this 430 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240 format is like super fascinating to me. 431 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that they I was looking up the 432 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:57,880 developer of the game, Ilex Games, and this is their 433 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,319 first game since twenty seventeen. It looks like they had 434 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:05,359 a demo for Adventure of Simsara on Steam back in 435 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,839 twenty twenty. Oh wow, So I'm curious, huh. And the 436 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,599 last game I made was not well received. But you 437 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,319 know that is it's called face It a Game to 438 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,359 Fight Inner Demons. 439 00:22:20,599 --> 00:22:25,799 Speaker 4: I play that game every day. Baby, Let's go one, and. 440 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: It definitely looks like a glow up in terms of 441 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,359 face it, and in this game, I would will say 442 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,640 it is the word. Yeah, face it a game to 443 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,160 fight inner demons, that's the whole title. 444 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: It's like, no, you face it like Penny one. 445 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: Oh no. 446 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: But finally, I wasn't sure if you were saying face 447 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,920 sit because you're saying that's a different game. 448 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:49,559 Speaker 1: That's a different game. I have those filtered out on 449 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,160 my Steam so it was. 450 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,039 Speaker 3: Like, I play that game every day. I was like, 451 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,920 I clearly misrode something there. 452 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,039 Speaker 4: I like to other people's podcasts and be like, I 453 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,319 play that every day with such enthusiasm. 454 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, Marcus, you checked out another game, right. 455 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. The last game I'll mention that I wrote a 456 00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:11,640 big pre before on the site is called Spine. I 457 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,640 was really excited for this. I saw a trailer for 458 00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:17,359 it months ago at like an indie showcase. It is 459 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,279 a third person action game heavily modeled after the Batman 460 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:27,519 Arkham series, primarily combat, like taking that free flow combat 461 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:30,839 from those games and just sort of pretty much replicating 462 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,880 it and adding your own sort of John wickspin to it, 463 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,440 because that's the other big influence of like the Gun 464 00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:40,519 Fou and those movies. So the game feels like what 465 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:45,880 if Batman just had a gun? What if he broke 466 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,960 his no kill rule? Where he plays this young girl 467 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,400 in this sort of like Cyberpunky, sort of like Neon 468 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:55,680 like Acid Wash World, and you're just going from room 469 00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:58,000 to room. I don't even know what the story is about. 470 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,240 This is one of those games where, like, like the 471 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,119 demo didn't give me like much narrative context and it's 472 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,880 also like I don't think I care because I just 473 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,279 want to go into a room and just mess a 474 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:09,440 bunch of guys up. And the game so far it's 475 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,240 pretty good at that. Like it was like a rough 476 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,359 alpha build, so it was it was you know, janky 477 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,440 in some spots, but it it did nail like the 478 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,400 core of what made those Batman games fun of just 479 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,839 like you go in there and you're immediately just bouncing 480 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,519 from guy to guy. The animations and the attacks felt 481 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,599 like smooth and tight in the way that I like 482 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,119 from Batman. You're you know, you're doing cool cinematic finishers 483 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,079 where you're just like flipping over a guy and like 484 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,279 doing some intricate like arm break thing and just taking 485 00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:36,960 him down, or you're doing a John Wick thing where 486 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,240 you do like a hand to hand combo and then 487 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,440 just shoot him in ahead at the end. 488 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: It looks ridiculous. I'm looking at it on Steam and yeah, 489 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:49,920 it looks really stylish. I think they've nailed the the 490 00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:51,640 art direction of it for sure. 491 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,039 Speaker 2: I think it's all what were gonna say. 492 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,759 Speaker 4: I also played this one and sat down and talked 493 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,240 with one of the leads on it, and I specifically 494 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,400 was like, your game one turns into gifts very well, 495 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,720 and you know, I was asking, like, is that something 496 00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:07,680 y'all do intentionally, and it's like not, not really, but 497 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:10,319 like it does help to think of it in terms of, 498 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,839 like can you get because that's the vibe of Gunfu 499 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,759 is like if you watch John Wick, like a lot 500 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,079 of those like sick moves and kill shots like do 501 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,000 gif out very well. And so if you can do 502 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,319 the same thing with your game, you're probably nailing the vibe. 503 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:25,839 And that's so much of that game was that that 504 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,680 demo was about just nailing the moment to moment of like, 505 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,960 oh that was sick. Oh that was sick, Like you're 506 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,599 playing incredible five ten second gifts one after the other 507 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:38,559 after the other. It's it's the reels of Gunfu. You know. 508 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,039 It really like works that way. 509 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: And it also like like it shows well, but I 510 00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:46,839 think it'sporting to note that it feels good to play 511 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,839 so far, Like I said, it's a little rough because 512 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:50,839 it's an alpha, but like for to feel as good 513 00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:54,000 as it is it did, then that makes me hopeful 514 00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,119 what the final product would be. Like the really only 515 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,839 kind of like complain I had was that the camera 516 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,599 was a little looser than I would like, so it 517 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,160 was a little flayley, especially because you're jumping around and 518 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,319 changing like your your camera angles changing constant because you're 519 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,000 jumping from guy to guy. But that can be tightened 520 00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:11,759 up hopefully. But yeah, it's cool, Like, I miss Arkham combat, 521 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:13,200 so it's good to see it sort of live on 522 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,759 in this game. 523 00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: That's one of those things that like, I feel like 524 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,640 you often see games be like and our combat is 525 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,160 inspired by counter based Arkham Combat, and it like the 526 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,559 fact that you're saying it feels like that. After playing it, 527 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:28,559 I'm like, okay, so they actually did it this time. 528 00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:30,599 A lot of people try to do it. I'm always 529 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,400 excited when you're like, and these people succeeded. It's not 530 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,319 just like a buzzword. 531 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 532 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: The only other skin big game that I can remember 533 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,079 that got close was the Middle Earth games. 534 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 4: Yes, that combat was very. 535 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,759 Speaker 2: Much like Yeah, we played Batman, but if Batman had 536 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:46,440 a sword instead of a gun. 537 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,279 Speaker 3: There was theoretically like they could have asked them though, 538 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,960 right because it was like Warner Brothers and DC's of 539 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,279 Warner Brothers property. 540 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: You know, they're probably across the hall from each other. 541 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, well cool, Eric, I know you wanted to 542 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,480 talk about Jamon. 543 00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:05,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. Somehow, Digimon was my game of the show. Another 544 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,440 game that you have listed was my very close number two, 545 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:13,279 but Digimon Story Time Stranger. I'd heard for years that 546 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,920 Cyber Sleuth and games like that were worth playing, and 547 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,519 I always kind of blew it off because I was like, 548 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,160 I look, okay, don't don't hate me in the comments 549 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,720 for this. But I feel like there were there were 550 00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:24,440 kids who grew up with Pokemon, and then there were 551 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,839 kids who grew up with Digimon, and the Digitimon kids 552 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,880 always felt like they were like kind of second fiddle, 553 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,440 Like they were like, oh, our stuff is just as 554 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,400 good as Pokemon, and so they always had to like 555 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:36,440 wave the banner for it a little extra hard in 556 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,680 the process. And so I always heard, oh, Digimon's really good, 557 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,200 you should play that, and I was like, ah, but 558 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,880 is it really good or did you just grow up 559 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,799 with Digimon. Turns out they were right. I was wrong. 560 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:50,640 I made a kulpa, like y'all got this game is 561 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,279 really really cool. It's a it's very much a creature collecting, 562 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,759 creature evolving RPG in the vein of a Pokemon or 563 00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:59,640 even a Shiit make on me tense, but feels kind 564 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,519 of a like a between point between the two where 565 00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:06,400 you get these really cool evolutions, the digivolutions that are 566 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,839 based on different stats and things that you've done throughout 567 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,160 raising your digitmon, and you can always kind of like 568 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:15,160 branch them out, see where they go, build a build 569 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,119 around them, maybe bring them back if you don't like 570 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,960 the digit evolution that you went down and going a 571 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,720 different path, you can build up moves and kind of 572 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,200 create these digitimon and also lean into type weaknesses in 573 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,960 a way that I kind of wish Pokemon would, because 574 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,160 there's like two different typing things. There's like one main 575 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,640 one that's kind of like the main triangle of virus 576 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,880 I think it's virus data vaccine, and then there's the 577 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,640 elemental wheels as well, so you can get like double 578 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,839 type advantage on some creatures and also have that done 579 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:49,160 to you. It looks gorgeous, It plays gorgeously like it's 580 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,000 got a really cool vibe of this digital world that's 581 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,160 built out of this like sheet metal jungle of Central 582 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,960 Town where all these digitmon are just kind of hanging 583 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,680 out and doing stuff. So you walk up to this 584 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,119 guy and he's a giant dinosaur inside a tank that's 585 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,960 like half dinosaur half tank, and you're like, what's up 586 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,720 and he's like, Hi, I'm tank Mon. I'm vibing over 587 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,119 here being a tank and I'm like that rules man, 588 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,240 that's awesome. And I go talk to Pumpkin Mon and 589 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,079 he's like, oh, I wish the train was running again. 590 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,599 But the train is called Loco Mon because the train 591 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,559 is also a digimon and like that it feels a 592 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:25,279 little bit livelier, because I feel like the more recent 593 00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:28,680 Pokemons don't always do that of have the Pokemon feel 594 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,799 like they're in the world. They're just kind of there 595 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,880 for you to collect and battle with, and maybe certain 596 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,960 story Pokemon get to like have a more prominent role, 597 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,599 but here, like it's digimon all the way down. Yeah, 598 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,119 dimon able to talk helps with yes, Yeah, yeah, they 599 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:44,839 can speak. 600 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: They can be characters like actual characters. 601 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:50,559 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was. I was incredibly impressed by it. Like 602 00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:53,839 I literally went home and opened up but the Switchy 603 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,559 Shop and was like, do they have cyber sleuth on here? 604 00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,319 Because I've I've clearly missed out on what has been 605 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,240 like a pretty solid RPG series and and I think 606 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,319 that's the sign of you have built something really interesting 607 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:10,519 and really fascinating. If even I a Digiti heathen Em, 608 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,319 I'm like, oh this is this is legit, like this 609 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:15,880 is something to pay attention to. Ethen Mon, it's my 610 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,759 favorite heathen Man. You don't want to know what heathen 611 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:19,319 Man does? 612 00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: Oh you don't want to s. 613 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes me excited. I was a Pokemon kid, 614 00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:31,880 but I I also liked Digimon, gobm On and were 615 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,559 my favorites. 616 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,039 Speaker 2: Is that the wolf is Guru room On Matt's Digimon. 617 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,839 Yeah cool than I was saying war. 618 00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: Graymond at all Warramon, is he the the wolf, but 619 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:44,680 he's like a robot. 620 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: To No, he's the well, that's that's metal. Guru room 621 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,599 On was the little dinosaur. Yes, that was his mega. 622 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: Just see war Raymond. But I do think, yeah, he's 623 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,799 like the chartisard of Digitmon is my own pretty much. 624 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,160 I was a monster rancher kid, which makes me like 625 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:08,599 hip that's the third lay. Yeah, that's the iceberg of 626 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,680 monster catching is like monster Ranchers at the bottom. 627 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: It really is. 628 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,839 Speaker 4: I talk about Suazo and Mochi and Wolf. I think 629 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,200 Wolf was just its name. I don't remember. 630 00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: You're playing the CD soundtrack on your place. 631 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm putting Santana's Supernatural from my dad's CD collection 632 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:30,839 into my PS one to try and get like a 633 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,640 monster from it. Like that. We got to bring that back. 634 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:34,960 You should ring that back. 635 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that rules. I played a couple of things I 636 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,599 want to chat about. Luminous Arise. 637 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: Was this the game that was my close? Number two? 638 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:45,759 That was real close? 639 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: I really wanted to play this. 640 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah it. You know, I have to admit I've never 641 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,759 played a Luminous game before. I've always wanted to. 642 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: And but did you own a PSP? 643 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,119 Speaker 1: I did? Yeah? 644 00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 4: Oh that's even more Yeah right, yeah, i'd. 645 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,319 Speaker 1: I was playing NTV versus at X on my BSP. Okay, 646 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,640 I was that kid. I was playing like Madden, you know. 647 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,839 Uh but but yeah, so I've been playing luminessa Rise 648 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,559 a bit. They actually took me to the back room 649 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,920 and I got to play a few more levels than 650 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,440 were public, and so I played this really cool level 651 00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:28,920 that was It was hyper pop, so think I think 652 00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:34,720 like hyper Potions style music or yeah, I mean hyper pop. 653 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:38,599 But and the visuals were all sorts of like pixel 654 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:42,240 and voxels. It was really bright and beautiful and the 655 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:46,319 stages I mean just like Tetris effect, luminess, a rise. 656 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,519 The big draw I would say, are are of course 657 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,000 the music, the soundtrack. People want to hear that that's 658 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,839 a huge part of the game. But but yeah, these 659 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,359 these these immersive screens that you're gonna be especially if 660 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:02,240 you playing VR, right, that's like the big draw. And 661 00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,960 so far I've been really impressed with them, just the 662 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,640 the visual effects in every level that I played. There 663 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,559 was one level where I there was like a astronaut 664 00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:15,599 stuck inside a TV station and when you would when 665 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,519 you would make a cube, and you know, and and 666 00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:24,119 and what what what is it called? And yeah, is 667 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:29,839 that just what it was? Okay, Well, when you clear, 668 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,440 when you clear, there's like all these each stage of 669 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,160 these like really neat animations that play, and of course, 670 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,000 just like touch to Effect at ramps up in intensity 671 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,799 and it's it's really good. It felt really good. The 672 00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:46,799 soundtrack was great. Unfortunately, the headphones aren't working for some reason, 673 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,880 so I was just listening through TV speakers amidst summer 674 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,319 game fest madness, and so didn't get a great great 675 00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:58,519 I can't tell you about the mix or really disparate 676 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:00,880 elements of it, but I I kind of feel the 677 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,279 energy and I out here occasional melodies, and I really 678 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,200 enjoyed it so far. And I think that's coming out 679 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,960 later this year. I'm not sure if they announced a 680 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,440 specific release date or not yet. I could be wrong. 681 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,440 Not yet, not yet, but I can't wait to play that. 682 00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:18,679 I think it's gonna be great. 683 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: I was gonna ask did you feel like the mix 684 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,679 was a little bit different from Tetris Effect, Because when 685 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,039 I went in, like playing Tetris Effect, I felt like 686 00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:30,679 a lot of it was very chill, vibes zy, and 687 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,079 then some of the levels would be really amped up, 688 00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:36,400 but it was it was more of a almost relaxing vibe, 689 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,519 whereas Lumines felt like the inverse where everything was kind 690 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:42,960 of do good do good do do do do do do, 691 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,159 and then like some of them were kind of like 692 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,239 a little bit more spacey and viby, but it felt 693 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,599 like there was still a mix of them, but the 694 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,800 ratio was kind of inverted from where it was with 695 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,599 Tetris Effect. 696 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, that's that's a good I think you're right 697 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,039 on that ratio. It definitely leans more towards you know, 698 00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:02,800 I wouldn't say it got up to like, actually there 699 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,599 was one. I felt like it was kind of break beaty, 700 00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:09,840 but yeah, higher higher bpms. Uh, you know, more drums 701 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,559 present on tracks, and like more like sign wave basses 702 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,239 and and that sort of thing that you would kind 703 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,800 of expect from from more you know, techno and and 704 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,519 and ed M and that sort of stuff. And there 705 00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:26,639 were a couple yeah, slower ones and those are harder 706 00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:27,199 to hear. 707 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:31,039 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, in all, uh, I believe it's 708 00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,280 all original music, because the first two Luminus games were 709 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,000 heavily like licensed songs. 710 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:42,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe they are bringing back the I think 711 00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:46,760 it's the same composer as Touch just Effect, Touch just 712 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,320 Effect band. I'm doing a quick search high Delic. 713 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,559 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that sounds right. 714 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to credit the wrong person, so I'm 715 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,000 trying to look. But I knew it was like a 716 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:01,719 notable band that told me, and it was one that 717 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,480 had worked on a previous project with them, So I'm 718 00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:04,400 guessing it's Hidelic. 719 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: But but yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same person as 720 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,119 Yeah Cool. 721 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. And then separately, Crimson Desert continues 722 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,199 to be a game that fascinates me. That game wants 723 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,000 to be every game possible, and part of me thinks 724 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,800 they might be able to pull it off. I will 725 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,440 say the I would say Crimson Desert has some of 726 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:38,039 the most complex controls that I've played in a while. 727 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:45,280 There is just there are probably thirty different button combinations 728 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,400 that you have to eventually learn for like, because it's 729 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,920 a character action game, so it's not a Soul's like, 730 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,079 so you are doing combos which require you know, various 731 00:36:55,079 --> 00:37:01,840 input configurations. There's also you have multiple Okay, let me 732 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,320 tell you about the cool thing about this game, all right, 733 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,119 There there is a lot of movement options for you 734 00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:12,199 that require So number one, you kind of like wheel 735 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,119 this like magic force your character. I don't know what 736 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,320 it's called in the game, it's just magic, right, And 737 00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:20,039 so you can do a lot of things with that. 738 00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:24,920 You can sort of shoot up a a grappling hook 739 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,000 and or I think it's like a grappling arrow or something, 740 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,000 and you can aim at this. So you click in 741 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,159 the left sticks and you kind of go into this 742 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,719 slowed down mode where there's like a big color overlay 743 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,679 that comes over and you know, it's almost like think 744 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,559 like I don't know. 745 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:41,639 Speaker 4: Like. 746 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,559 Speaker 1: Hero detect Division, Yeah, that kind of thing. And when 747 00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:50,159 you slow it down, you can aim up at the 748 00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:53,119 tops of trees and you can shoot it up and 749 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:56,400 you can grapple up on top of the tree tops, 750 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,559 and then you can turn into a crow and like 751 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:03,760 sprout wings from from your back and glide around. And 752 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,880 there's a couple of different you can kind of go 753 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,760 quicker down, you can kind of take your time and 754 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,599 glide down. There's also an ability that and sometimes you 755 00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:15,960 have to defeat certain bosses with this where you jump 756 00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,360 up in the air. You click I think they've just 757 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,519 remapped it. You click right trigger, and your right hand 758 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:26,800 shoots a palm thrust of magic on the ground and 759 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,920 it shoots you up into the air. Then you have 760 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,039 to click left trigger and then that is your left 761 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,360 hand palm thrust and you can even do a third 762 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,880 one to for another. You can do like three palm thrusts. 763 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:39,519 Speaker 4: So it's like Iron Man kind of where you're like 764 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:42,519 doing the little palm thrust like thrusters. 765 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you can turn into the crow again 766 00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:50,920 from that and glide on top of big enemies. There's 767 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,199 one fight I had what I like fought a tank 768 00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:00,480 and instead of a tank like think not world, not 769 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:05,199 a modern tank, thin thing like almost like a phalanx 770 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:12,360 looking a phallax. God, this is not going well a 771 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,800 very like think of like a massive like it almost 772 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,599 looks like a hut on wheels. And the hut has 773 00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:21,280 a bunch of spikes all around it. Okay, and the 774 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,119 entrance to the hut is on top. Okay. 775 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: And it also. 776 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 4: So it's like an r V with like a bunch 777 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,000 of deer catchers. 778 00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: I just realized it's like a It's like a ridiculous 779 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,880 bay blade is what it looks like. Imagine, yeslades are ridiculous. 780 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,239 It's spinning and shooting flames out. Yeah, it's spinning and 781 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,239 shooting flames out the sides. Sure, while there are like 782 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,400 twenty dudes attacking you. So in order to defeat this tank, 783 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,280 you have to jump up. You have to jump arm thrust, 784 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,920 arm thrust, arm thrust, crow glide on top of the tank. 785 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,079 There's also another t shooting at you. I think this 786 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:06,199 game needs some balance changes, but is that top level 787 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,920 what it needs? 788 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 4: Because I got a few other ideas to put up. 789 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: No, ok okay, okay. And so once you're on top 790 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,920 of the tank, you jump into the arm thrust thing 791 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,079 again and you blow the tank up. It's it's they 792 00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:19,119 there's also okay, there's some weird stuff in this game. 793 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,920 There's also a boss fight at the end of this 794 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,639 demo that I fought against, where throughout the boss fight 795 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:32,400 he runs into and slams his his sword into these 796 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,960 big stone columns and they'll fall down in the boss fight, 797 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:42,039 and you have to essentially dodge perry that sort of 798 00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,480 thing to fight him, as well as like get your 799 00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:49,079 combos off. And this particular boss doesn't take damage really 800 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,679 from normal combat, so you have to build up his 801 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,320 stagger meter. Then you stagger him and he goes down 802 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,960 on one knee and that's your window. You have to 803 00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,039 And they said, they told me like this would be 804 00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:03,639 more natural in the game because you would have had 805 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,639 like the muscle memory by the time you got to 806 00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:08,480 this fight. But you have to click in the two 807 00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:12,159 sticks to go into your magic mode. You have to 808 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,239 aim down at a column, a stone column, and then 809 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,360 you press I think X and it summons like this 810 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,719 this like whirlwind cyclone underneath of the stone pillar. You 811 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,519 have to tap repeatedly to like your character's like raising 812 00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:31,159 levitating this stone pillar, this all while there's a character 813 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,800 that's like downed next to you and he's about to 814 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,920 get up and start swinging again. 815 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 4: So you have you have like roughly how many seconds 816 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,679 to I would say like ten, oh, okay, that's my 817 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,280 eight seconds. 818 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's it's longer. It's it's not long 819 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,119 enough to where like you can like relax and do it, 820 00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:53,400 but it's not ridiculous, okay. So essentially, you levitate this 821 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,760 thing up, you pick it up this giant piece in 822 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,239 the environment, and you slam it down on the boss 823 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,559 and do like a third of his health bar and 824 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,360 it feels awesome. And there are other puzzles and other 825 00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:07,960 I'm like, you could just do this mechanic in the world. 826 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,480 It's not like a special boss mechanic. There are just 827 00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:12,079 things that lie on the ground in the world. Like 828 00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:15,719 there's one there's like a big invasion that I played 829 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,280 where it's hundreds of enemies on screen at once, like 830 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,880 ridiculous amounts of enemies on screen, and you're running through 831 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,440 this battlefield and you have to like increase the morality 832 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,760 your troops, so you have to like raise a flag 833 00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:30,880 and to do that you do like the the same 834 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,880 mechanic and you put the flag into the into its 835 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,239 stand and like helps helps the invasion. Right, this game 836 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,039 is like very very all over the place, but in 837 00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:47,800 a way that I kind of love it. I don't know, 838 00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:52,400 this game could be like incredible, Like I don't want to. 839 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 840 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,079 Speaker 1: I know that as hyperbole. I genuinely believe if they 841 00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,039 can pull off the best parts of this game and 842 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,920 polish up the stuff that that is still a little 843 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,719 rough around the edges in terms of like the control 844 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,079 scheme and there are some some lighting stuff that was 845 00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:13,000 throwing me off. But like it is a very dense 846 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:20,239 and very impressive attempt at a open world, you know, 847 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:26,239 RPG action sort of game, and I am I will 848 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,679 be their day one. I want to see if they 849 00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:31,599 can do it. It is really really interesting. 850 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 4: One question, Yeah, did you get a sense in all 851 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,119 of this and everything you've done in all of these 852 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:47,440 adventures of who your dude is? Because Cliff cool. 853 00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:52,679 Speaker 2: Like that, that's his name's Cliff, this Omega level mutant. 854 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,679 Speaker 1: He also looks like he looks like Clive from Okay. 855 00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 3: They just wanted to name him Clive. 856 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,119 Speaker 1: I want to say Scottish, Scottish or Irish. 857 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 2: His name used to be before they changed it. For 858 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,239 a long time, his name was McDuff, which I was 859 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,119 disappointed they changed. 860 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,639 Speaker 4: It, like Shakespearean McDuff, Like, uh no, McDuff, McDuff. 861 00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:25,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, fear, but mac mcduff's a character in Macbeth, right, yeah, yeah, 862 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:26,679 I don't know. 863 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, McDuff because he was again they were 864 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,440 leading into like the scottishness. So yeah, his name until 865 00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:36,119 like relatively recently they changed his name. I guess the cliff, 866 00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,119 which I was like, McDuff is better. I just like 867 00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:40,159 saying McDuff. 868 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 4: I am into the idea of the insane video game 869 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,639 retelling of Macbeth where he can turn into a crow 870 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,480 and punch the bay Blade from atop his iron Man's thruster. 871 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 2: Some tornadoes and whatever. 872 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's my Macbeth, you know. Yeah. 873 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,079 Speaker 3: Macbeth is the name of the character of the play 874 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,119 and the ridiculous bay Blade tank that shoots fire out 875 00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:05,559 the side. Yeah, don't get it confused, you will. 876 00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: This is the second time that I've played this game now, 877 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,480 so I've played it for probably to two and a 878 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,400 half hours at this point, and I've done various scenarios 879 00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:18,360 that are all just like vignettes. They didn't even want 880 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,639 me to call this one a demo. They're like, this 881 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,199 is this is just like a a slice. I was like, okay, 882 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,079 not what a demo is. But I think they were trying. 883 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,639 Speaker 3: To find gaming experience. 884 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,639 Speaker 1: I think that what they're trying to say is like there, 885 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,239 it's not meant to be a holistic view of the game. 886 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,559 I think is what they were trying to tell. 887 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,039 Speaker 2: Me, which is what most demos are. 888 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I don't know, but yeah, it's 889 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,320 this game wants to be a lot. This is the 890 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,480 one that people have been watching. It's from the developer 891 00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:53,440 behind Black Desert Online, which is kind of known for 892 00:45:53,599 --> 00:46:00,280 its beautiful art direction and combat to cool combat. Yeah. Uh, 893 00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:04,039 this game, I would say, is like not it's like 894 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,920 middle Fantasy. I don't know, like you're gonna be running 895 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,039 up against I believe there are like orcs and that 896 00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:13,199 kind of thing as, but there's also like weird like 897 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,360 siege engines like this tank was. 898 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: It's got a it's got a bit of the Game 899 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,239 of Thrones kind of gritty fancy to it. Yeah, pretty much, 900 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,280 I think, Yeah, I think maybe, yeah, sixteen is probably 901 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:26,880 going back to that. 902 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 4: That's a good comparison, you. 903 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a little less, like I don't know about 904 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:38,760 the fighting, you know, Giant Gods, Yes, not to that level. 905 00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:42,880 The other kind of a step down from that, right, 906 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,679 And that's kind of like a vibe for for the 907 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,719 setting of this game. But yeah, it's there's also like 908 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,719 a lot of I remember back at Packs East, I 909 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,800 played a build where it was a non combat boss 910 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,920 fight that was essentially a big shot of the Colossus puzzle. 911 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,119 They had to like climb on top of this big 912 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:09,880 stone crab and slowly take out its weak points, and 913 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,800 then at the end you had to use your your 914 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,440 palm thrusts to then grapple to get high enough and 915 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,039 then shoot your grappling hook midair, swing around him and 916 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,760 flip up over top of him and like kill him 917 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,440 from above. I told him, I was like, this is 918 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,519 too much. Is very cool. You got to figure out, 919 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,239 you know, how to make this more more achievable because 920 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:36,000 it was like pr was even like struggling to like 921 00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:38,079 show me how this is supposed to work because it 922 00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:41,079 was so convoluted. So that's what I mean, Like this 923 00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:46,280 game is doing a lot. If it can overcome the 924 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,440 complexity of its character controls, I think it could be 925 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,400 really really special And I'm I'm I can't wait to 926 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,719 play this. Yeah that's Crimson Desert. I didn't mean to 927 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,039 spend so much time on his game, but I I 928 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,239 have really enjoyed it. Yeah, or it's one to watch, Yeah, 929 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,159 it's one to watch. 930 00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 2: Am I am I wrong for? 931 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,039 Speaker 4: Like? 932 00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:11,199 Speaker 2: I hope the game is good? But am I wrong for? 933 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,719 Just want to get to come out so we could 934 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:18,320 talk about do k A V again everything video game? 935 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, do kV wasn't at SGF right, Like we didn't 936 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,480 see a trailer for it, or. 937 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 2: It hasn't been and it hasn't been shown since it 938 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,360 would shown the first time. 939 00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 4: V M I A. 940 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:30,559 Speaker 1: I've heard it's still like actively being worked on. 941 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I've assumed that once they're just pushing Crimson 942 00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,639 Desert at the door first, like that's the focus, which 943 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,519 makes sense, you know. 944 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, that's Crimson Desert. A very curious game. 945 00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:45,239 Really excited to see. 946 00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 4: More of that. 947 00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:48,519 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's kind of our our our Summer Game 948 00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:51,239 Fest wrap up. Didn't mean for it to take that long, 949 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,679 but hey, a lot of cool games. Uh, let's get 950 00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:56,760 into our Nintendo switch To review discussion. 951 00:48:58,119 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 4: Eric. 952 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to go to you. How are you feeling 953 00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:02,960 about switch To? I know you and I have been 954 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,800 playing Mario Kart World together. Has that been the extent 955 00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:09,079 of your time with the device? Where you're at? 956 00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 4: I've been dipping in and out. It's been an interesting 957 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,280 time because I didn't get my switch To until I 958 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,320 got back from SGF, and I'd played some Mario Kart 959 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,880 while I was out there on other people's systems, and 960 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,960 I definitely got a sense right away of yeah, this 961 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:25,920 is a solid Mario Kart. I would know if I 962 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,800 would rank it as the top Mario Kart. But I 963 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,280 think it's got some cool ideas. I really like knockout races. 964 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,519 I think that was probably like the golden ticket idea 965 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,639 with this game is it just works super well and 966 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,519 maximizing the fact that you can bring so many players 967 00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:42,880 in and do those knockout races and they go by 968 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,840 it just the right amount of time and everybody has 969 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,400 a good time and then kind of gets into the 970 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,760 next one. I think it flows super well and seeing 971 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,639 that workout. I mean, we've been putting up room codes 972 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,800 and playing knockout races with a bunch of people who 973 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,000 all join in. It's a great time. I really like 974 00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:02,800 that all so kind of been dabbling in either switch 975 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,639 to specific games, so I played a little bit of 976 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,559 I actually went back to Pokemon Scarlet to kind of 977 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:11,320 tinker with that DLC because I never finished the DLC 978 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:17,840 because it ran terribly. It just barely functioned. Yeah, and 979 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,760 so now playing it in a really good frame rate 980 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,800 and looking pretty solid, I was like, oh, maybe I 981 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,039 do actually want to finish the DLC of these games. 982 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,519 I booted up New Pokemon Snap because I was like, 983 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:32,239 no one else is going to care about whether New 984 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,639 Pokemon Snap works well on the Switch too, but I 985 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,840 do because I really like Pokemon Snap. That game runs 986 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:39,480 super well on the switch too. 987 00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 2: They announce any formal upgrades for that. 988 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,519 Speaker 4: I just booted it up to try to I've been 989 00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,039 doing that with a lot of old games that I 990 00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:49,519 thought kind of ran not great on the Switch. One 991 00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,199 was just see like does the hardware get it just 992 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,039 working a little bit better, And it turns out with 993 00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:59,159 Pokemon Snap, it just there's barely load times. It just 994 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,639 moves faster, there's not a lot stuttering or anything like 995 00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:05,679 that just feels a lot smoother overall and really like 996 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,199 makes that experience shine a little bit more. And so 997 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,559 I really like that. I've been playing clubhouse games because 998 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:14,719 I'm a sicko like that. There's no like noticeable upgrades 999 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,000 for clubhouse games except for the fact that you can 1000 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,440 game chat with it. But that that's all I want. 1001 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:20,719 I just want to sit there and keep get in 1002 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:26,840 my medals. Exactly. You're you're talking to a Mancala maaster. 1003 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,639 I just got my impossible medal the other night. You know, 1004 00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:32,280 I'm just saying, you know, don't don't test me when 1005 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,159 it comes to Mancala. 1006 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,280 Speaker 1: I used to play Mancala a bunch at the after 1007 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,320 school place I went to. I ran those streets. 1008 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,199 Speaker 4: Okay, well, we're gonna have to show downline enough to 1009 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,039 see what's what. I think. The weird thing with the switch, too, 1010 00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:46,519 is I just keep going to it, and I'm like, 1011 00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,519 it's not I don't think it's a bad console. It 1012 00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:52,320 just really feels like I got an upgraded switch, and 1013 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,480 I don't. I don't think it's going to start to 1014 00:51:56,519 --> 00:52:00,480 feel like switched to instill until stuff like Donkey Kong 1015 00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:03,000 Bonanza and stuff like that starts to roll out things 1016 00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:06,559 that feel very distinctly this is a new console making 1017 00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:10,159 use of new hardware. I don't think Mario Kart World is. 1018 00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:14,000 It's definitely impressive, it's definitely like amazing to look at visually, 1019 00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:18,079 It's just not that substantial, sink my teeth into game 1020 00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:20,079 that I was hoping for with the switch Too, and 1021 00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:23,039 I think that's what it's missing right now. Delta Rune 1022 00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:24,400 has been the one that I've been going back to 1023 00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:26,639 and playing a lot on there, and that's something I 1024 00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:28,400 could have played on my PC if I didn't have 1025 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,880 it on switch To. I just wanted to try the 1026 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,840 switch to version. So I don't know, it's a weird 1027 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,800 console launch. It's not a bad console launch. I've certainly 1028 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,559 lived through worse, but it's a strange one, I think 1029 00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:44,920 because it just doesn't have a breath of the wild. 1030 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,280 I even remarked today looking at the Donkey Kong direct 1031 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,920 that I was like, that feels like the switch to game. 1032 00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:53,920 That feels like the big waving the banner. We have 1033 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,239 a new console game, and so it's a little weird 1034 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,440 that the release is staggered the way it is. 1035 00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been really cool to have it launch, 1036 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,519 especially because it's so close. But yeah, I got my 1037 00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:09,840 switch to finally, guys, when that I can wave around recklessly, 1038 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,320 I don't have to. 1039 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,639 Speaker 4: Use balances for that anymore. 1040 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1041 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,679 Speaker 2: But so I've probably played the least because I got 1042 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,920 my less than a week ago and I've only played 1043 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:23,239 like it ends short Burst, played to Mario Kart. I've 1044 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,159 only completed one Grand Peak pre Cup. It's it's fine, 1045 00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:29,440 it's fun, but like Mario cart eight was such a 1046 00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:31,519 high bar that it was like, at least the tracks 1047 00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:33,519 that I played so far, like haven't really held a 1048 00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:36,159 candle to like the tracks in those games. But it's like, oh, yeah, 1049 00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:38,199 it's fine, it's Mario Kars. These new power ups are 1050 00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:38,599 pretty cool. 1051 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the thing on that note, Marcus, because 1052 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,199 of the open world nature of this game, they don't 1053 00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:49,760 really have many. I mean, I guess they add in 1054 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,280 sort of like construction traffic cones to block off certain 1055 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,840 certain areas during races, But I feel like Mario cart 1056 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,800 eight had the advantage. These are levels right versus like 1057 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,800 an interconnected world, and I think, yeah, that makes them 1058 00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:10,679 less moment to moment the. 1059 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 3: Actually think like they I think the courses are good. 1060 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,119 We're just in a weird spot where like, uh, because 1061 00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,599 of the way the Grand Prixs are structured, where like 1062 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,800 the third lap is actually, oh, you only get one 1063 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,280 lap on the court if even played Mario Kart World. 1064 00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:30,239 The way Grand Prix work now is you do three 1065 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,840 laps on the first track and then the second race 1066 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,079 is the path from that first track to the second track, 1067 00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:38,920 and then you do one lap on that track and 1068 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,480 then the race ends, which. 1069 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,519 Speaker 2: Still off by the way, because I was like, I 1070 00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,039 know you had to drive to the next one was like, oh, 1071 00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:45,639 are we in a are we in a race? I 1072 00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:47,880 see the little lap counter and it's like, oh should 1073 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,880 I care right now? 1074 00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? And it's I think the levels are well designed, 1075 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,519 but it's hard to get used to them because you 1076 00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:55,440 don't even get to spend that much time on them. 1077 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,679 And that My main issue is I just wish that 1078 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,519 they had included like a classic and pre mode, or 1079 00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:05,239 like you can't play Grand prixse between multiple switches, which 1080 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,320 is weird to me, like you have to do races. Yeah, 1081 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,599 at least I have not found a way too. 1082 00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:13,199 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I think it's just because the tracks of 1083 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,320 the interconnected I feel like they just have less of 1084 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,840 an individual identity than previous Mariocard games, because you know, 1085 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,480 when they're just like individual tracks, they can do whatever 1086 00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:24,519 they want thematically with them oras here since they kind 1087 00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:26,239 of have to blend together a little bit just because 1088 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,119 they all take place in one living world. So going 1089 00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:32,519 from some tracks of tracks, you're like, oh, I mean, 1090 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:35,559 I do see a difference, but it's not like, WHOA, 1091 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,639 this is completely different than that last ter. I went 1092 00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:41,960 from moving meadows to like that weird piano like techno 1093 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,320 track from like what was it whatever? It was called 1094 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,159 an eight, and you're like, it's missing that a little bit, 1095 00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:48,320 at least one seen so far. 1096 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if the other cups or not, but 1097 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,320 I think DK Spaceport was the one that really yeah 1098 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,960 realized that was you have a really great track in 1099 00:55:57,039 --> 00:55:59,599 DK Spaceport where you're kind of winding up the Donkey 1100 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,239 Kong arcade game, but you have to spend like a 1101 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,960 lap or two getting to the track, and that that's 1102 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,039 always a weird part to me. I've heard tell that 1103 00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:13,360 there's somehow a way to play just the circuits if 1104 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,280 you want to just do that. But I was talking 1105 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,360 to this person who was trying to talk me through it, 1106 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,639 and it was through different menus and options in the 1107 00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:22,400 multiplayer and stuff like that, and I was like, why 1108 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,800 is that not just play like you said, play classic, 1109 00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:29,880 play original, you know, whatever you want to call it. 1110 00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:33,199 And I like the idea. I even like the idea 1111 00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:35,119 of what they're doing for Knockout Race again, and I 1112 00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:38,480 think it works really well in that context. But for 1113 00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:42,400 somebody who wants a classic Mario Kart experience coming off 1114 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,599 of eight Deluxe, it's going to feel a little strange 1115 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:46,159 at times. 1116 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:51,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say I am really enjoying. I know, 1117 00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:54,280 like I know, there are there are people, I mean, 1118 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,079 we're talking about it right now, like some of you 1119 00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,239 don't like that, but there is a certain novelty to it. 1120 00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:04,559 It is unlike any other Mario Kart game in that way, 1121 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,760 and so I am appreciating it for that. I also 1122 00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:13,079 think that the Grand Prixs are it's kind of I 1123 00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:14,880 don't know, maybe I'm looking at a glass half full, 1124 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,320 but if you complete that Grand Prix and then you 1125 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,880 select a different one that's connected that, and maybe it 1126 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,519 doesn't work as well. Maybe it's maybe I'm thinking Knockout Mode, 1127 00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:28,480 but essentially your next the next race you're gonna do, 1128 00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:31,039 like the next Grand Prix you do, you can have 1129 00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:34,320 it so that, oh, I'm getting two laps on the 1130 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,199 map I actually wanted to end on last time, right. 1131 00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:40,559 Speaker 3: I think that's a that's a versus race setting? 1132 00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:42,719 Speaker 1: Is that a versus race ocause you can't you can't. 1133 00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:44,199 Speaker 3: Pick where you start when you do a Grand Prix. 1134 00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:46,039 It's just like, ah, shoot, you're right. 1135 00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:49,559 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of I've been doing a 1136 00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:50,559 lot more of the versus. 1137 00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:51,719 Speaker 4: The verses is. 1138 00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 3: Fun, where like you're all in the open world and 1139 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,079 you get to vote on the next track that you 1140 00:57:56,199 --> 00:57:58,159 go to from the track that you yes did, so 1141 00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:01,159 you can change a bunch together. That is cool. I 1142 00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:03,000 like all the stuff they added. It's more that they 1143 00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:05,440 don't have the old stuff. But even then I'm still 1144 00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:05,960 enjoying it. 1145 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,719 Speaker 2: But yeah, I still have the mess with it. I 1146 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,519 haven't done any of the versus stuff. I haven't done 1147 00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:12,199 Knockout Tour yet. Like I've literally just done like Grand 1148 00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:14,519 Prix and the free Rome stuff, which the free room 1149 00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:17,760 is like fine, but it's not you know in terms 1150 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,199 of like and you know this has been set to 1151 00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:21,679 death by other people, like the density of activities hasn't 1152 00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:25,360 really like Blown me Away, especially compared to its closest influence, 1153 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,559 which is Forts of Horizon. So it's like, you know, 1154 00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:30,039 it's fun to drive around. I still want to look 1155 00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:32,400 around for secrets, but it's it is something where it's 1156 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,840 like I need to put a podcast song. It's gonna 1157 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,519 be a lot of driving around through nothing until I 1158 00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:38,440 see a pee block or something. I guess, yeah, yeah, 1159 00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:41,239 but yeah, I want to play Knockout Tour. That's the 1160 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,360 one I really need to. I don't want to get 1161 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,800 in there since that's like the big new thing. 1162 00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: It's great. That's probably my favorite way to play right now. 1163 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,039 Speaker 3: And there are like they're not like Grand Prix, but 1164 00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:56,239 there are If you go into the Knockout Tour single 1165 00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:59,000 player Marcus, there are like set things you can beat 1166 00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,760 and like the way that you rank. It's like you 1167 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,639 got three stars on this Grand Prix. You can do 1168 00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:06,039 that with the Knockout Tours too, So it's like there 1169 00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:07,960 is like single player stuff there, which is cool. 1170 00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say for for old games that I 1171 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,400 fired up to see how to better I because I 1172 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,239 am an Expansion Pass subscriber. I downloaded the switch to 1173 00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:20,280 version of Tears of the Kingdom because that was the 1174 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,039 game I most wanted to see, like how much better 1175 00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:25,519 it was? And I played it for like an hour 1176 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,280 and I don't. It was this weird emotion of being 1177 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,639 simultaneously incredibly impressed on how much better that game runs 1178 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,159 and being like upset that I can't play this for 1179 00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,480 the first time with this, like it. 1180 00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:42,119 Speaker 1: Plays so much I never so I'm excited to go 1181 00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:43,039 back and do that now. 1182 00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:45,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm excited for people to get to come 1183 00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:47,119 to Breath of the Wild Answers in the Kingdom for 1184 00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:50,360 the first time on switch to, because it's like going 1185 00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:52,679 even for like I was just like, man, it's great 1186 00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:56,039 that this exists, but I'm I'm I feel angry and I shouldn't. 1187 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,920 Those are two of my favorite games of all time. 1188 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,159 I still very much love my time with those games. 1189 01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,599 But seeing like, oh, this is how this is, how 1190 01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:04,719 much better it could have been? 1191 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 4: Huh. The person who gets to play Breadth of the 1192 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,960 Wild and Tiers of the Kingdom for the first time 1193 01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:13,920 on switch to, that's like euphouric. That is like I 1194 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,280 cannot imagine what that's got to be. You have to 1195 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,480 have been living under a rock. But that's like you 1196 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,119 win in that scenario. 1197 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're a kid who's finally old enough to 1198 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:26,840 do it, and then it's like that becomes their Ockerina 1199 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,639 of Time on N sixty four Formative Experience. 1200 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, did. 1201 01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:35,239 Speaker 2: You guys because I fired up the game cube stuff too. 1202 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,599 I don't know if you guys are Expansion Past people. 1203 01:00:37,639 --> 01:00:40,639 Speaker 1: And I am iah. 1204 01:00:41,199 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the very first game I fired up was 1205 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,880 not win Waker, but Soule Caliber. 1206 01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:45,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1207 01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's so I love Soul Caliber two. It's 1208 01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:51,280 who now, yeah exactly. You know what's funny about Soul 1209 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,719 Caliber two, Like you know it still plays like a 1210 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,480 dream loves Soul Caliber two, But the switch to loads 1211 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,639 so fast that the like fight load screens are way quick. See, 1212 01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:02,639 you only get like a second to do the like 1213 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,639 noises with the fighters, like the grunts when you hit 1214 01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:07,920 a button, so like you have to really be on 1215 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,519 it to be like when they just stare at each 1216 01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:13,760 other like straight faced and only their mouths moved. I 1217 01:01:14,639 --> 01:01:16,119 was like, oh crap, I missed it. I have to 1218 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,440 just mash the button immediately. So that's like the downside 1219 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:21,960 to the new load speed. 1220 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,599 Speaker 1: Does it feel good? Otherwise though, Oh yeah. 1221 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,119 Speaker 2: It plays like Soilk Caliber two, which is I. 1222 01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:29,679 Speaker 1: Think I wasn't there a remaster or a re release 1223 01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:34,199 a h version. Yeah, yeah, that's the last time I played. 1224 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,559 Speaker 2: That was the last time I played, too. I don't 1225 01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:39,719 think I've played the proper like, I can't remember last 1226 01:01:39,719 --> 01:01:42,239 time I played the GameCube version, specifically because I never 1227 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:43,920 owned it. I played at a friend's house. I never 1228 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,880 had a GameCube, so my version was the PS two 1229 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,719 version of head Hey Hachi. So yeah, going back to 1230 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,199 this one, I think I don't think I played the 1231 01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:54,880 gamecub versions. It's high school now thinking about it. But yeah, 1232 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,599 Solkap two is still one of the best fighting games 1233 01:01:56,639 --> 01:01:57,159 ever made. 1234 01:01:57,239 --> 01:02:00,599 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I've been I've been kind of 1235 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,000 I'm playing a lot of Mario Kart and then I've 1236 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:09,679 I've re downloaded uh Spolunky and Spolunkie two, and just 1237 01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:13,519 because I love those games, and I was like, yeah, 1238 01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:18,679 great games, phenomenal games. I downloaded uh Splatoon three. Haven't 1239 01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:20,719 been able to check out the new the new update 1240 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,679 downloaded I've got. I've downloaded a ton. I downloaded Fall guys, 1241 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,559 because I thought it would be an incredible way to 1242 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,559 play that game on the go. I don't remember. I 1243 01:02:32,599 --> 01:02:37,039 don't know if it has Steam Deck support. What are 1244 01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:37,559 you laughing at? 1245 01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 4: Eric? You reminded me. I also downloaded Splatoon three and 1246 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,840 I got into a match, and I'm pretty sure I 1247 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,960 played against like six year old seven guy. There was 1248 01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:54,480 no mercy on that there was. I I rolled in 1249 01:02:54,519 --> 01:02:57,039 there with my arrow spray and I was like, like 1250 01:02:57,079 --> 01:02:58,800 they were kind of walking around and just kind of 1251 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,559 shooting and painting, and I like zipping in and spraining 1252 01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:03,960 it all down, like doing all the tech and stuff. 1253 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,519 And I was like, I feel bad. This is this 1254 01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:09,119 is like the classic story of kids on Christmas Day 1255 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,559 getting destroyed. 1256 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 2: But do you think they'll patch in mouse controls for 1257 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,519 that gangs? That seems like of any game to get 1258 01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:17,960 it because, like you know, like they always say the 1259 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,440 hardcore players use the motion controls, which I still think 1260 01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:22,679 is insane, Like I cannot play Splazoon. 1261 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 4: That way, but contro flick Yeah, yeah. 1262 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 2: But mouse control seems like the way you even the 1263 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,280 playing field, just because you know, that's just the way 1264 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,719 a lot of people like to play shooters. 1265 01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you are the lobbies split up as matchmaking 1266 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,920 split up by platform or switch to. People just in 1267 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:39,719 there with switch one. 1268 01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:43,719 Speaker 2: That's it's probably the same. It's just to switch one 1269 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,280 game like they haven't if there's like no switch to 1270 01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:51,599 edition of it. So yeah, it's just backwards compatible, you know. 1271 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but oh I got to test out if you 1272 01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:55,760 could do mouse because then you can. 1273 01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 4: Just we should go dominate the lobbies later. Yeah, yeah, 1274 01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:02,559 these kids got to learn about how to play Platoon. 1275 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, before that weird spinoff comes out, I will 1276 01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:08,880 now that you we mentioned the mouse controls. I will 1277 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,480 say that was the one thing that did make the 1278 01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:12,880 switch feel new, because I was I'd forgotten about the 1279 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,039 mouse controls until I was running through the controller pairing 1280 01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:16,599 and then it's like, hey, you know you can do this. 1281 01:04:16,639 --> 01:04:18,760 So I did like the little tutorial and I was like, 1282 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,400 oh right, So like that's like the one thing that 1283 01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:23,480 makes me go, that's right, this is a switch to. 1284 01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,000 I could not do this on my old switch, and 1285 01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:28,119 just I've only used it to like navigate the menu, 1286 01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:30,880 but it was it was novel and weird to be like, 1287 01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:32,840 ye can't believe I'm using a mouse cursor on a 1288 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,719 Nintendo console, Like this is pretty this is pretty neat. 1289 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I have yet to actually use it once since. 1290 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,440 Speaker 3: Oh right, now you're switch in front of you. 1291 01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, use your mouse. 1292 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,119 Speaker 3: Through my just my captures. When I show people, I'm like, 1293 01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:51,320 look and I can scrub so easily now it was 1294 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,760 always annoying or the right stick. 1295 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Okay, what I'm gonna do. We're gonna do some journalism 1296 01:04:56,519 --> 01:04:56,840 right here. 1297 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 4: Okay, late journalism, late journalism. 1298 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 1: We're going to see if you can actually if you 1299 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,880 can actually use mouse in spultan real quick. 1300 01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 3: Oh. I think I think there's a zero percent chance. 1301 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,280 I think they would have, but. 1302 01:05:17,239 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 2: I could also see Nintendo because they're. 1303 01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:23,639 Speaker 4: They like the shoe on, like you're actually putting the 1304 01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:23,960 shoe on. 1305 01:05:24,639 --> 01:05:26,679 Speaker 2: I think the mouse controls are better when you put that. 1306 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,159 You can do it without the shoe, but it feels better. 1307 01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 4: No, I do that shoeless. Yeah yeah, raw. 1308 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Raw dog in the mouse. 1309 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,679 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to Sulton's. Wow, this feels so weird. 1310 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,559 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with Charles, like, it's probably not gonna work. 1311 01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:49,199 But also it's it's not unlike Nintendo to quietly push 1312 01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:51,360 out a little update like that to where they chut 1313 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,400 to figure it out on your own. 1314 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 3: Probably later it'll turn out that like they announced it 1315 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,800 but on the Nintendo Today app and nobody just saw it. 1316 01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:01,800 We never never got picked up anywhere. 1317 01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:06,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I still haven't downloaded that app. By the way, I. 1318 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,519 Speaker 3: Probably probably probably today it's Donkey Kong. 1319 01:06:09,519 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeh, that's probably I am. 1320 01:06:13,519 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm about to do it. Let's see. Oh yeah, 1321 01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:19,880 can you skip this this damn intro? 1322 01:06:21,159 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 4: You can speed through it? 1323 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,599 Speaker 1: I think, God, that is the most annoying you do. 1324 01:06:26,679 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 2: I still haven't played Splatoon three really well. I love 1325 01:06:31,519 --> 01:06:33,559 the first two games, and we did. We didn't get 1326 01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:35,559 a code for the third one, and I was like, well, 1327 01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:37,199 I don't want to pay full price for it now, 1328 01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:40,239 and you know, nothing ever goes on so Nintendo. So 1329 01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:42,280 I just haven't gotten around to, like, I guess I'll 1330 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,679 pay sixty dollars for this right now. 1331 01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 4: I always paid the price. Splatoon is, like, low key 1332 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,039 one of my favorite Nintendo properties. I think it's one 1333 01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:52,280 of the best things they've made in a long time. 1334 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,440 It's very very good. 1335 01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:57,199 Speaker 2: Honestly. The announcement of the spinoff one reminded me, like, 1336 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,440 I still haven't played Splatoon three. I should do that 1337 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,239 because I like those first two games a lot. 1338 01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still have absolutely. 1339 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I need to go back and play the 1340 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,239 rogue mode that they added that was like the tower 1341 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,559 Side Order. I think it was one I like expansion 1342 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,119 that was so yeah. 1343 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 2: So they're they're they're good on their expansion game. You 1344 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,800 guys excited for that new one that threw on a subject. 1345 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:21,880 Did you guys see that trailer? 1346 01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 4: What is it? 1347 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 3: I did not see. I'm not a I've tried every 1348 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,960 Splatoon and none of them have clicked for me. 1349 01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:30,199 Speaker 2: But it's like a it's like a single player thing, right, 1350 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,440 eric I It seemed like, surprisingly, I have not watched 1351 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,280 this trailer yet because it just happened to appear one 1352 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,480 day when I was not paying attention to the internet 1353 01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:44,519 and has been memory hold Yeah, I forgot the name 1354 01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:47,400 of it. It's like Splatook Raiders. 1355 01:07:47,559 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I saw it and thought it was an 1356 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,280 extraction shooter, which I was concerned about. 1357 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: But I was sitting here thinking I was doing mouse 1358 01:07:55,519 --> 01:08:00,360 controls and I was just doing motion controls on but 1359 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,920 with would. 1360 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 4: Say that's how. 1361 01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like the hell, yeah, hold on, waggling 1362 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,560 your I'm going to the isn't getting done? I know, 1363 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,279 right handheld handheld mode most controls. 1364 01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:28,039 Speaker 1: Oh there's supposed to be off. I'm so confused. Also, 1365 01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:29,520 nothing in here about mouse. 1366 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 2: I was also going to say the other thing that 1367 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,039 makes this feel new was since I I never upgraded 1368 01:08:34,039 --> 01:08:36,359 my switch, Like I had a Launch model switch all 1369 01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:38,119 the way through its life cycle, never got the light, 1370 01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:40,720 never got the old D. So for me, having a bigger, 1371 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,439 nicer screen is like whoa Like this is this is 1372 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,640 like my I'm late to the party and like how 1373 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,600 much of a luxury that feels of like, oh, these 1374 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,520 games look so much better now. I can't believe the 1375 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,319 screen is this big. And I also don't have a 1376 01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:56,760 Steam deck so big handheld screens for me, it's still 1377 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,039 like I'm still fresh to that, and I'm like, man, 1378 01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:00,720 this is what people I've been talking about. 1379 01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:04,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's not even old, but you could have 1380 01:09:04,119 --> 01:09:05,600 fooled me. Honestly, it is. 1381 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 2: It is a better looks though, isn't it. 1382 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,279 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 1383 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Well they've got like HDR working on the screen, don't they, 1384 01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:12,880 I think. 1385 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,319 Speaker 2: So yeah yeah its ahgr yeah yeah then it's like 1386 01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,000 four K sixty on the when you play doct and stuff. 1387 01:09:19,039 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 1: It's honestly for content capture, video capture, I'm I'm so happy. 1388 01:09:25,039 --> 01:09:28,840 Yeah you Yeah, And like I was capturing fourteen forty 1389 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,399 P the other day. The PS five and the Xbox 1390 01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:33,000 Series X wouldn't even let me do that when they 1391 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,319 came out, like they would only only do ten eighty 1392 01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:38,479 or four K. And having the switch just work with 1393 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,960 with with that kind of thing makes my job a 1394 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:41,640 lot easier. 1395 01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it also just feels better, Like just the hand, 1396 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,479 it just feels sturdier and nicer, like I don't know 1397 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,800 if the plastic, but there's something about it where it's 1398 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,119 like I like holding this more than I did the 1399 01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:52,920 original switch. 1400 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,279 Speaker 4: Have y'all seen the tech with the the kickstand that 1401 01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:57,239 people have been doing. 1402 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I've been using the kicks Dan a. 1403 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,520 Speaker 4: Lot, so I've seen people I'm holding my switch to 1404 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,520 for a visual help here prop people will kick out 1405 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,199 the kickstand and then kind of use it to like 1406 01:10:09,319 --> 01:10:12,680 rest their fingers so they have like a pop socket. 1407 01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like my phone has like a thing. 1408 01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 4: I haven't. 1409 01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 2: I haven't used my kickstand yet. 1410 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,159 Speaker 4: I want to say. It was like Jeff grub or 1411 01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:24,079 somebody was posting about this the other day and I 1412 01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:26,079 was like, that looks stupid and then I picked it 1413 01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:28,439 up and I was like, oh no, damn it. 1414 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 2: You were too quick to judge, too quick to judge, 1415 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,920 just like Digimon, the Jeff Invintage. Should we credit grub? 1416 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 4: Is this? The grub grip is that? 1417 01:10:38,079 --> 01:10:40,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got it right now, and I'm like, my 1418 01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:41,600 pinkies are underneath of it. 1419 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, they you could do ring finger you can. He 1420 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:48,760 does feel kind of good. 1421 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 1: Pinky feels better. 1422 01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:53,319 Speaker 4: It depends on like what kind of triggers do you do? 1423 01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:55,239 Do you do you like the do you double finger 1424 01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:58,840 the triggers or do you like single figures on the game? Right? Yeah, 1425 01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:02,039 software game, you probably want to double face. 1426 01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, unless I'm like really trying to get this kind 1427 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,159 of something. 1428 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,399 Speaker 4: This is such good audio content. 1429 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 2: We're describing everything, okay, Yeah, for audio listeners are just 1430 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,319 helping the pinkies under the little kickstand. 1431 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,159 Speaker 1: Kickstands at about a forty five degree angle. H My 1432 01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:25,880 pinky is resting underneath of it, and it feels comfortable. 1433 01:11:26,399 --> 01:11:32,079 Speaker 4: It does it surprisingly like, feels drastically better the. 1434 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,039 Speaker 1: Side the sides of the kickstand are kind of sharp, 1435 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,600 so I don't know that might wear on. 1436 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 2: You, maybe not long term. You don't want to do it. 1437 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,239 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna see you gotta. 1438 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,119 Speaker 4: Wear yea hoary or somebody is going to come up 1439 01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:46,720 with like the the gamer grips for these, and that's 1440 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:47,560 that's what will happen. 1441 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,039 Speaker 2: Just wear pinky gloves. 1442 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh there you go. Yeah, racing, it's my racing gloves cover. 1443 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1444 01:11:56,279 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 1: Uh that actually that reminds me. Yanky sent over a 1445 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,640 couple of accessories for me to check out for the 1446 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:07,640 switch to They sent over a case they have like 1447 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:12,159 a grip system that I honestly wasn't loving. I've seen 1448 01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:15,239 other people online really like it, but for me, I 1449 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:20,359 just I really like my I've got my top case. 1450 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,479 I really like slim case designs. And when you have 1451 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:24,960 the grip on it, it just like it was a 1452 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,399 big kind of like instead of having you know, you know, 1453 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,079 the satisfied grip on switch one where it's just like 1454 01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:33,000 one big piece of plastic that you sit your switch 1455 01:12:33,039 --> 01:12:35,239 in and you just pull it out when you don't 1456 01:12:35,239 --> 01:12:38,039 want to, this one was more so you have to 1457 01:12:38,079 --> 01:12:42,199 attach these disparate pieces and and it was just like 1458 01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:44,199 it was a little too much for me. But what 1459 01:12:44,279 --> 01:12:47,800 I really like is the screen protector from Ginki. They 1460 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,479 sent that over and it's one of the ones where 1461 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,720 it's kind of got a cage that comes with it, 1462 01:12:52,039 --> 01:12:56,079 a three D cage. You line it up perfectly. It's 1463 01:12:56,159 --> 01:13:00,800 got like the multiple it's like pull here, press here, 1464 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:07,479 and the easiest, probably the easiest screen protector installation I've 1465 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,680 had on a handheld device, And so I very much 1466 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,000 vouch for that case. Seems seems great. I've got a 1467 01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:18,880 case already. Unfortunately, maybe I'll use it for for if 1468 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,359 Kyle gets one. A switch to And the one thing 1469 01:13:22,399 --> 01:13:25,000 I really do like is they have the game organizer 1470 01:13:25,039 --> 01:13:28,399 and it's a single switch to case, but it's got like, 1471 01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,199 I think twelve or eighteen game slots in it. So 1472 01:13:31,239 --> 01:13:34,479 if you're somebody who carries around a lot of games, 1473 01:13:35,039 --> 01:13:36,000 that seems really cool. 1474 01:13:36,279 --> 01:13:39,359 Speaker 4: For those switch to physical cards. 1475 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:44,319 Speaker 1: Hey, I am a get I get my switch to 1476 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,520 physical No. 1477 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying they're all game key cards right now, right, 1478 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,880 that's like the whole Oh, the drama amongst the people. 1479 01:13:52,239 --> 01:13:55,279 Speaker 1: Oh shoot, I'm uninformed. I've been I haven't been informed 1480 01:13:55,319 --> 01:13:55,640 on that. 1481 01:13:56,359 --> 01:13:58,399 Speaker 3: I missed that. 1482 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, formed to you of such things. 1483 01:14:01,279 --> 01:14:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I'm sure we have informed people, but 1484 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,640 I'm a busy guy. You know I don't keep up 1485 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,760 with news like you. You you low lifes. 1486 01:14:11,319 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 4: Look, can I. 1487 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 2: Also say that I am counting down the days. As 1488 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,079 much as I love the switch to form factor, I 1489 01:14:19,119 --> 01:14:22,119 cannot wait until I can get some Horry pads for 1490 01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:25,720 this thing. Yeah, because I've been using Hory pads for 1491 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,279 my switch one for years now, like I have. I 1492 01:14:28,279 --> 01:14:30,199 cannot tell you the last time I used my joy cons. 1493 01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:32,159 They've just been in a drawer just because my hand. 1494 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,560 They're just too small. They're just like the little buttons 1495 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,840 they heard after a while, like the Hoary pads. If 1496 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,680 you've never seen them. It's like if you cut a 1497 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,680 three sixty controller in half like an Xbox control and 1498 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,920 just bolted them on the side, so it feels like 1499 01:14:44,039 --> 01:14:46,720 you're holding an actual big boy controller. And I want 1500 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,439 those for switch to so bad, even though the joy 1501 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,239 Cons for the the switch to are bigger so they 1502 01:14:52,279 --> 01:14:54,640 are easier, but it's I don't like that analog stick. 1503 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,399 Speaker 4: It's too small to get round it, bro controller. 1504 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,640 Speaker 2: I have two pro controllers, I mean when I'm playing handheld, 1505 01:15:02,359 --> 01:15:04,119 you know, at. 1506 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,079 Speaker 1: One at one point in time, and apologies to the 1507 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,560 company I don't remember the name, but there was a 1508 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,279 pro controller stand that would clip onto the back of 1509 01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:18,760 your pro controller and it would have like the goose neck, 1510 01:15:20,319 --> 01:15:23,760 so you're playing on your pro control. You're playing. It 1511 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:29,680 was awesome. I played so many games like Controller Fortnite. 1512 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 4: The unhinged one is if you get the goose neck, 1513 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,119 but you install it like in your bed so you 1514 01:15:34,119 --> 01:15:35,279 can like lie, that's. 1515 01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:43,399 Speaker 1: What I've ad. I I okay, I am relatively new 1516 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,600 to goose neck in bed. Okay, this is not like 1517 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,479 a I'm not a kindle person. I'm not. 1518 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,359 Speaker 3: Got to define goose neck in bed real quick because 1519 01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:56,840 I don't. I don't really know what you're talking about. 1520 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,840 And it's getting worse the longer I go without contact. 1521 01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:00,520 Speaker 4: Okay, it's not. 1522 01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:05,760 Speaker 1: It is a goose neck mount meaning okay, there is 1523 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,680 a desk mount. Think about it like a disk mount, 1524 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,680 right that you would like tighten on your desk and the. 1525 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,920 Speaker 3: Clam like a microph. 1526 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:24,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. It's plastic light and you, yeah, 1527 01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:27,439 you tighten it onto the surface. And then there's a 1528 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:33,359 long flexible tube that is like three feet two feet long, 1529 01:16:33,399 --> 01:16:35,840 three feet long, and at the end of the tube 1530 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,000 is a mount for your tablet or your swich lip, 1531 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,079 and you remove the joy cons from your switch and 1532 01:16:44,119 --> 01:16:48,359 you dock the tablet in that mount. Then you you 1533 01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:50,840 twist the goose neck because it's it's strong enough or 1534 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,560 it's gonna hold where you place it, but it is flexible, 1535 01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:58,720 and so yeah, you you twist it to be how 1536 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,960 you want it to be. And then you lay in 1537 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,399 bed looking up at your switch, and you got your 1538 01:17:04,399 --> 01:17:05,560 two joy counts in your hand. 1539 01:17:06,119 --> 01:17:08,199 Speaker 4: Now, now do you keep the joy cons like at 1540 01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:09,720 the ready or do you like. 1541 01:17:10,079 --> 01:17:15,359 Speaker 1: Just go like I pull the covers up over my 1542 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:20,680 body and I am like pencil like like hands on 1543 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,199 my sides, resting, but I'm playing the game. 1544 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,600 Speaker 4: It is incredible peaceful when he's goose neck. 1545 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is the nice thing about the 1546 01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:31,560 joy cons is that you can like lay down arms 1547 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,760 your side, but like normally the TV is just like 1548 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,520 in front of you normally. Yeah, so this is like 1549 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,960 next level. I guess, uh, it's amazing. 1550 01:17:41,279 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 1: I love the goose neck in bed, and I just 1551 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,720 I don't I don't have like a switch to goose neck. 1552 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,079 I just have one for the iPad and I it 1553 01:17:51,159 --> 01:17:54,640 actually doesn't fit like it properly should, so I turn 1554 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,800 it on its side and then there's enough room I 1555 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:03,279 guess horizontally that it'll still it'll still fit the switch too, 1556 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,600 But yeah, I highly recommend. It's like twenty dollars and 1557 01:18:08,039 --> 01:18:09,720 you can do it with iPad if you want to 1558 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,680 play like Magic the Gathering in bed or watch a 1559 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,840 show if you don't have like a big I don't 1560 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,520 really have a nice TV in my room. Like I'm 1561 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,640 not really a big TV at night person in bed, 1562 01:18:20,119 --> 01:18:22,079 but like sometimes I'm like sick and I want to 1563 01:18:22,119 --> 01:18:25,880 watch you know, ever somebody feed fill and I'm gonna 1564 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,319 you know, I got my mouth or now Super Mario 1565 01:18:28,399 --> 01:18:30,720 Kart World. I like how you're like, I'm not really 1566 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,319 a big like TV in bed type of person, but 1567 01:18:33,359 --> 01:18:37,279 you will install a gooseneck hugging just above your face. Okay, 1568 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,279 it's not even install. You turn a knob and it tightens. 1569 01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:43,920 It's not like I've got like of me mount do 1570 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,800 the wall mount that I've got a secure. 1571 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 4: Also, like, like no amount of like security or clamping 1572 01:18:50,279 --> 01:18:52,560 will ever stop me from thinking about the fact that 1573 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,199 you will have to explain the world's funniest concussion to 1574 01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:57,680 somebody if that thing ever, like it's a little bit loose. 1575 01:18:58,039 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean I have dropped my switch on my face 1576 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,800 and before, so this. 1577 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,880 Speaker 2: Is everyone probably has at least once. 1578 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,319 Speaker 1: I have dropped it multiple times on my face, on 1579 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,000 your face because you're holding it up and I get tired. 1580 01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:13,159 You get tired in with. 1581 01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:18,560 Speaker 3: The switch in the air. Yes, I'm I'm like, I'm like, yeah, 1582 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:18,960 you know, I. 1583 01:19:19,399 --> 01:19:22,319 Speaker 4: Get elbows up, like stomach down, and i feel like 1584 01:19:22,319 --> 01:19:24,279 I'm at a sleepover and I'm kicking my feet in 1585 01:19:24,319 --> 01:19:27,880 the air like like I'm just kind of like to sleep. 1586 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:28,840 I roll over, like. 1587 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm not laying completely flat, but I'm not elevated enough 1588 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,479 to where I'm like sittings I'm going to lay down. 1589 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,159 So you like, yeah, yeah, you're like you're You're It's enough. 1590 01:19:37,319 --> 01:19:38,760 You're flat enough to where you got to kind of 1591 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,479 raise it above your face even if it's not like 1592 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,680 directly over your face, but you can still drop it. 1593 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,039 Speaker 1: And I don't like pillows either. I have like a 1594 01:19:45,119 --> 01:19:46,560 very thin pillow because I'm sick. 1595 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:47,640 Speaker 2: I don't like the pillows. 1596 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't like pretty much flat holding holding it directly 1597 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,439 about my face, and I started to get sleepy. My 1598 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,399 my grip loosens and I drop it on my face. 1599 01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm really glad there's never snare. I'm gonna have to 1600 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:06,960 like stay in your bedroom for some reason, flat ass pillows. 1601 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,039 Speaker 2: For TV and. 1602 01:20:11,039 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, sounds like this just this weird press. 1603 01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 3: I'm glad it works for you, but it's so just 1604 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,319 learning the specifics of your bedroom is very funny to me. 1605 01:20:19,359 --> 01:20:23,079 Speaker 4: It's so so tailored to you. Yeah, there's an animator 1606 01:20:23,079 --> 01:20:25,600 at Pixar like listening to us describe this like. 1607 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 1: I made Wally to stop you from doing that. Okay, 1608 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,880 all right, I get it. What were we talking about, Dan. 1609 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,279 Speaker 3: I do want to move on to someone others. 1610 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:38,399 Speaker 4: We need to get off. 1611 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,640 Speaker 3: We're hitting you're hitting the ninety minute mark. 1612 01:20:41,359 --> 01:20:45,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta go on to the next topic. Marcus. 1613 01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:48,079 We're gonna go to you talk to me about the altars. 1614 01:20:48,119 --> 01:20:52,239 This is the new Is this the eleven bit Studios game. 1615 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 2: Where you. 1616 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Have copies of yourself? Right? What we're gonna say the makers. 1617 01:20:57,079 --> 01:21:01,119 Speaker 2: Of uh like sad Bashard games like frost Punk and 1618 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,279 this War of Mine. This is actually I never played 1619 01:21:05,319 --> 01:21:07,439 any ether games. I didn't play either of those games, 1620 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,680 so this is my first eleven bit This is less 1621 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,600 sad so far, but still got some like some mess 1622 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,840 up stuff tod It's like a third person adventure game. 1623 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:21,640 You play as a guy named Jan Dolski who is 1624 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,359 part of an expedition crew sent into space to search 1625 01:21:25,399 --> 01:21:30,560 for this rare resource called rapidium for this big corporation. 1626 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,000 But unfortunately, like a big accident happens and everyone on 1627 01:21:34,079 --> 01:21:36,800 your crew like crash lands and dies except for you, 1628 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,479 So you're stuck kind of like in charge of the 1629 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,279 ship that requires an entire team to like run and 1630 01:21:44,359 --> 01:21:49,279 make function. And also the planet you're on has this 1631 01:21:49,359 --> 01:21:52,159 thing where like when the sun rises, because like the 1632 01:21:52,199 --> 01:21:54,760 star that it's orbiting is incredibly close to the planet. 1633 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,800 So basically when the sun rises, you will die. You 1634 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,399 will just burn up and die. So you need every day, 1635 01:22:00,399 --> 01:22:04,239 you kind of need to move, like it's a mobile ships. 1636 01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:06,039 You need to kind of keep moving so you're not 1637 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,439 always in the path of it, and you can only 1638 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,359 stay out so long because when the sun doest start 1639 01:22:10,399 --> 01:22:14,159 deris like the radiation from it starts to affect you. 1640 01:22:15,079 --> 01:22:16,479 So the way that you kind of get around the 1641 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,159 fact that you're alone is that you use rapidium for 1642 01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:22,800 this machine in the ship that creates duplicates of yourself 1643 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:28,359 that are basically alternate universe versions of yourself. Like the 1644 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:33,520 corporation has your entire like basically all of your memories 1645 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,319 stored in their database, so they can see every life 1646 01:22:37,319 --> 01:22:39,640 decision that you've ever made, which in this case for 1647 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:43,199 the game, because he's only thirty five. It's kind of 1648 01:22:43,239 --> 01:22:45,159 just displays it as like, here are the most pivotal 1649 01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:47,600 moments of your life that have shaped who you are now. 1650 01:22:48,039 --> 01:22:50,399 And the way you make a new version of you, 1651 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,880 which is called an altar, you look at every branch 1652 01:22:54,119 --> 01:22:56,399 or potential branch, and you just go the other way 1653 01:22:56,399 --> 01:22:59,319 of like, oh, like he grew up in an abusive 1654 01:22:59,319 --> 01:23:02,680 household with an abusive father, and it was like a 1655 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:07,000 scenario where you know he is like the father is 1656 01:23:07,239 --> 01:23:09,399 like being abusive to the mom and he could have 1657 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,439 stepped up to stop him, but he decided not to, 1658 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,479 Like this is prime yan like he was, so he 1659 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,960 just sort of like ran away from it. But what 1660 01:23:18,039 --> 01:23:20,319 if he did step up and like stop is that 1661 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,039 and then that creates a version of self that branches 1662 01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:25,399 and his life takes a different trajectory. If he had 1663 01:23:25,399 --> 01:23:28,199 stood up to his father earlier than he did, so 1664 01:23:28,279 --> 01:23:30,520 then you're creating someone like that or like, oh, he 1665 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,159 had the choice to go to medical school, but then 1666 01:23:33,199 --> 01:23:35,239 he didn't because he wanted to keep this other like 1667 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,119 maybe more steady job. But then again you get an 1668 01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:40,000 alter that did go to medical school, so he might 1669 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,680 be a scientist. So basically you're spawning these new versions 1670 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,039 of yourselves to gets like versions of Yon that are 1671 01:23:48,039 --> 01:23:50,880 proficient in skills that he is not to help run 1672 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,239 this ship. So the ship is itself. It's a cool 1673 01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:56,720 looking ship, like it just looks like a giant tire 1674 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,119 with a bunch of almost like shippings in the middle 1675 01:24:01,119 --> 01:24:03,880 of it, which serve as like your rooms. Because it's 1676 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,720 like a very modular ship. You're like adding rooms. You're 1677 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,800 taking a wave rooms and you can expand the ship 1678 01:24:10,079 --> 01:24:12,359 and wait matters like if you have too many rooms, 1679 01:24:12,399 --> 01:24:14,840 then the ship requires more resources for it to run. 1680 01:24:15,119 --> 01:24:17,479 So it's a lot of like the game as a whole, 1681 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:22,359 it's a lot of management, uh sim stuff. And then 1682 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,479 uh so you're a lot of the game from what 1683 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,560 I played so far, Like I'm still I'm only a 1684 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,439 few hours in and I only have three three altars 1685 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,920 so far, But it's a lot of like you're in 1686 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:37,119 an area, you go out to scavenge resources so that 1687 01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:40,640 you can create new items that then make it easier 1688 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,560 to scavenge resources, and that becomes the loop if you've 1689 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,880 played enough sort of like survival games or any sort 1690 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,239 of resource sort of like loops. But then there's also 1691 01:24:49,279 --> 01:24:52,960 a big like relationship component because you can you can 1692 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,760 talk to all your alters and they all have very 1693 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,159 distinct personality traits and their moods can change depending on 1694 01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,560 how you interact with them, and so I'm over more 1695 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,359 more volatile than others depending on just where their lives 1696 01:25:04,399 --> 01:25:06,920 have taken them, which you can see, like when you 1697 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,520 create a new one, you get like a branch that 1698 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,680 kind of you know, it's a good idea to sort 1699 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,399 of like read how their lives turned out, so you 1700 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,520 kind of get a sense of like what their personality 1701 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,239 might be and maybe some landmines to avoid stepping on 1702 01:25:17,319 --> 01:25:19,840 when you're talking to them. Yeah, Like I have a 1703 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:25,319 minor version of me who like developed like he lost 1704 01:25:25,399 --> 01:25:28,279 his arm in a mining accident and as a result, 1705 01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:32,359 he developed the crippling addiction to painkillers and alcohol, and 1706 01:25:32,399 --> 01:25:35,760 so there was a situation where he like when I 1707 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,199 brought him back, since he's in a new body. He 1708 01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:40,640 has his arm again, so he's like, oh wow, this 1709 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,079 is great. But then he starts feeling like reverse phantom 1710 01:25:44,079 --> 01:25:46,920 pain or he's like I still feel the pain. I 1711 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,079 don't know why. And he's like, listen, man, I think 1712 01:25:50,119 --> 01:25:51,760 you know what I need right this And he's like what, 1713 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,800 And he's like asking you basically like can you give 1714 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,319 me some like some drugs, some painkillers and you can 1715 01:25:56,399 --> 01:25:59,560 choose to sort of like indulghim or not. And I 1716 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,720 have chose and like, no, man, you don't need that 1717 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,600 and stuff. And now he's like really mad at me 1718 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,600 because he's like incisa, mom. Man, it's like, don't be 1719 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,479 don't be heartless. Like he's like he's like it really hurts, 1720 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,239 like I would not lie about this, and I just 1721 01:26:11,319 --> 01:26:12,960 kind of help my foot to the ground like no, 1722 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,640 you're not getting any I'm sorry. You're just gonna have 1723 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,880 to just tough it out. You know, it'll pass. And 1724 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,199 now it's currently he's pissed at me, which I'm worried 1725 01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:21,319 about because he's like the only miner guy and I 1726 01:26:21,399 --> 01:26:23,079 kind of have him in charge of like the main 1727 01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:25,680 like mining medals, so I don't I don't know if 1728 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,760 he's gonna want to do that anymore because they like 1729 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,840 one of the traits that the Ultra is gonna have 1730 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,359 is rebellion. So it's like, is he gonna like like 1731 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,239 just flip out of me at a certain point? You 1732 01:26:37,279 --> 01:26:39,760 basically I think they can because it was like the 1733 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,840 fact that that's like a a legit like trait that 1734 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,960 they can have, is rebellion. It's like, yeah, I can 1735 01:26:46,079 --> 01:26:48,000 if I pissed them off enough, will they try to, 1736 01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,359 you know, overthrow me or take over the ship because 1737 01:26:50,359 --> 01:26:53,920 I'm the de facto captain right, So like juggling Astuf 1738 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,159 has been fun, and it's also fun seeing them interact 1739 01:26:56,199 --> 01:26:58,720 with each other because you'll walk around because you're walking 1740 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,720 around when you're not exploring the planet, you're just walking 1741 01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,079 around your ship. It's like tears. You're taking elevators everywhere 1742 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,199 and you can zoom out to kind of see where 1743 01:27:07,239 --> 01:27:09,880 everyone is at a certain time, and it gets almost 1744 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,960 like sims ish because they'll ask you for different things. 1745 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,399 Like the first guy I brought, like, he's like, hey, 1746 01:27:16,039 --> 01:27:17,560 kind of tired of sleep on the floor. It'd be 1747 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,640 great if you make dormitories for us, And so I 1748 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,640 had to make a dormitory and now he's happier with me. 1749 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,920 Speaker 1: It sounds a lot like like a fallout shelter where 1750 01:27:26,039 --> 01:27:29,520 people have played mind Over Magic recently, Like that side 1751 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:31,560 view where you kind of see and I guess, like 1752 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:35,600 this horn is there, but when you're out exploring, it's 1753 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,199 like behind the shoulder, right. 1754 01:27:37,159 --> 01:27:40,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, like just third person behind the shoulder, just running around. 1755 01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,159 Speaker 1: Do you ever have that perspective in the ship? 1756 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:42,920 Speaker 2: No? 1757 01:27:43,359 --> 01:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. 1758 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,199 Speaker 4: One thing I'm curious about is it sounds like you 1759 01:27:48,319 --> 01:27:51,760 kind of have these different permutations that could vary up 1760 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,800 between play styles or playthroughs. Do you get the sense 1761 01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,199 that this is a run? Is this a run based 1762 01:27:58,239 --> 01:28:00,840 game or are you kind of doing like a narrative 1763 01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,199 playthrough of like one big thing rather than going on 1764 01:28:03,239 --> 01:28:05,439 different excursions and being like, oh, well, I failed this 1765 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:09,159 one because they all rebelled against me. Mutiny, Okay, boot 1766 01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:10,960 up a new run, go again. Or does it feel 1767 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:12,960 like you're supposed to kind of sit down and like 1768 01:28:13,079 --> 01:28:16,520 play through a longer session of this. 1769 01:28:17,039 --> 01:28:20,119 Speaker 2: It's a narrative, like they have a straight story that 1770 01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:23,359 they're telling. I have not reached any of what I 1771 01:28:23,359 --> 01:28:25,399 would consider a failure state yet, just because I'm early, 1772 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,840 so like I'm We're cool with everyone save for the 1773 01:28:29,239 --> 01:28:32,439 you know, drug addic guy. We'll see where we go 1774 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:37,840 with him. But yeah, like uh, you're just like it's 1775 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,399 broken up into like days and then they every day 1776 01:28:41,399 --> 01:28:43,439 because you have to sleep, like you have to manage hunger. 1777 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,840 You have to manage the hunger of the team, so 1778 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:50,119 you have to make food. You have to sleep otherwise 1779 01:28:50,119 --> 01:28:51,720 if you stay up too long, you get exhausted, and 1780 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,800 then that adversely affects your performance the next day or 1781 01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,720 the current day, because if you stay up too long, 1782 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,119 then you produce things slower because you build everything. But 1783 01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:02,720 if you're tired, then to build time takes longer. And 1784 01:29:03,039 --> 01:29:05,119 the clock is always taking in this game because of 1785 01:29:05,199 --> 01:29:08,479 like you know, at night, the radiation gets too high, 1786 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,439 so you got to get back to your ship. They'll 1787 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,399 give you like a counter. And the days go by 1788 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,159 very fast, and everything you do eats away at the clock. 1789 01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:16,760 So every time you build something, it takes away at 1790 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,000 the clock. Every time you mind something, it takes away 1791 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,279 at the clock. Every time you like create an altar, 1792 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,119 it takes away at the clock. So you have to 1793 01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:25,880 kind of plan your days in advance of like I 1794 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,159 cannot do everything each day I need to. I've learned 1795 01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:31,760 that quickly, Like maybe this day is just resource gathering. 1796 01:29:32,079 --> 01:29:37,079 Maybe this day is more hanging out, trying to socialize 1797 01:29:37,079 --> 01:29:39,039 with my crew, make sure we're all on the same page. 1798 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,439 Maybe this day is just like building something, Like you 1799 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,439 kind of have to pick one or two goals each 1800 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,920 day and just focus on them instead of trying to 1801 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,960 do a little bit each day because you have a 1802 01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:52,279 roadblocks that are in front of you, where like right now, 1803 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,720 one of the roadblocks in the area that I've gone 1804 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,680 to after the prologue is like, oh, there's some rocks 1805 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,159 here blocking your path. You need to build a thing 1806 01:29:59,159 --> 01:30:00,960 that can get ready to these ros. That's going to 1807 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,960 take a while because I need to get resources, but 1808 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,239 I can't get those unless I build a mining thing 1809 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,119 that can siphon the resources faster. And I should probably 1810 01:30:08,119 --> 01:30:10,960 make another altar that can man this machine on his 1811 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,199 own so I don't have to do its. That'll save time. 1812 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,720 And ideally you want an alter that's like good at 1813 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,520 that because that each have their own little bonuses, like 1814 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,520 the minor guys like hey, if he's doing it. When 1815 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,279 you mind things, you get more of it. And it's like, great, 1816 01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,520 you're gonna be in charge of that. So yeah, it's 1817 01:30:26,039 --> 01:30:28,319 it's like a blend of genres between like the management 1818 01:30:28,359 --> 01:30:31,199 sense stuff and the like relationships sort of like I 1819 01:30:31,239 --> 01:30:32,760 don't want to say visual novel, but it is a 1820 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,600 lot of like like choice driven dialogue stuff with your alters, 1821 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,439 and again, the things you say to them might make 1822 01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,880 them better or worse performers for whatever task that you 1823 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,199 assigned to them, and then also trying to maybe put 1824 01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:45,800 out fires if they have any inner conflict between them. 1825 01:30:46,319 --> 01:30:48,720 And then there's also like the because in between them, 1826 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,319 you're checking in with the corporation who calls you periodically, 1827 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,439 and you're kind of like having to navigate those waters 1828 01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,479 because you get the sense that they're maybe not entirely trustworthy, 1829 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,479 like they're saying, like you no, no, going to send a 1830 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,199 rescue mission for you. But while you're there, can you 1831 01:31:03,239 --> 01:31:05,560 get some more of that rapidiom and stuff like we 1832 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,560 really like if you get that. So you're like you're 1833 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,439 dealing with a couple of people there and you're short 1834 01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,560 at the siding, like how much do you want to 1835 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,039 tell them about what's going on versus like like you 1836 01:31:14,079 --> 01:31:16,079 know what I mean, like do I do I lie 1837 01:31:16,119 --> 01:31:18,479 to them about what's really happening? Do I even let 1838 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,680 them talk to the other altars? Do I tell the 1839 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,359 Altars that I'm talking to the corporation? And how much 1840 01:31:23,399 --> 01:31:26,039 do I want to tell them about what's happening. So yeah, 1841 01:31:26,079 --> 01:31:28,920 it's a lot of so far, like really interesting and 1842 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:33,920 really engaging, like like like conversation stuff. But like I said, 1843 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,960 I'm still very early, but I'm like into it now, 1844 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,880 like things are starting to click where it's like, Okay, 1845 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,760 I'm starting seeing what the loop of this game is 1846 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,439 going to be. But yeah, I want to play more. 1847 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,520 Like there's some really interesting story stuff, Like I think 1848 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:51,039 Yon himself is an interesting character and it's fun getting 1849 01:31:51,039 --> 01:31:53,880 to know these other versions of him, and I want 1850 01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,359 to see how many I can have and like again, 1851 01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,279 like like it feels like a game that would have 1852 01:31:59,359 --> 01:32:02,159 multiple ending just because of how many choices are involved. 1853 01:32:02,399 --> 01:32:04,159 So I kind of want to see how many different 1854 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,920 roads at this that the plot can take. I guess. 1855 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,319 But it's really cool so far, Like it's it's very 1856 01:32:11,359 --> 01:32:12,880 fascinating cool. 1857 01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:17,239 Speaker 1: I can't wait to play this. I have it downloaded, 1858 01:32:17,399 --> 01:32:19,319 I just need some time to play it. So I've 1859 01:32:19,359 --> 01:32:22,000 heard really good things from from some other folks on 1860 01:32:22,079 --> 01:32:26,239 staff who are playing it, and also just externally seems 1861 01:32:26,279 --> 01:32:31,720 like a really really it sparks my curiosity, so I 1862 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,359 want to check it out. But Eric, I want to 1863 01:32:34,399 --> 01:32:39,600 talk to you about Magic the Gathering cross Final Fantasy. 1864 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:44,880 The new Final Fantasy set is out and I've only 1865 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,920 opened probably two packs. 1866 01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,920 Speaker 4: I have also only opened about two to four packs. 1867 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:57,640 I think it has been incredibly difficult to get actual 1868 01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,319 physical product of this game, and it has This is 1869 01:33:01,319 --> 01:33:06,239 coming from somebody who I used to collect Pokemon cards 1870 01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,479 for a spell, and then I got to the point 1871 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,800 where every single release was so heavily in demand and 1872 01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,119 immediately bought up and sold by scalpers, especially in the 1873 01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:17,760 area where I live, that I just hit a point 1874 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,640 where I was like, you know what, I'm good. Maybe 1875 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,199 I'll play Pokemon TCG on my phone instead. Maybe I'll 1876 01:33:23,239 --> 01:33:26,399 find some other way to like kind of hit that. 1877 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,159 And Magic Gathering has always kind of been in and 1878 01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:31,600 out of my life. I love Duels of the Planes 1879 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,640 Walkers on Xbox three sixty That game as a classic 1880 01:33:35,239 --> 01:33:37,279 and it got me really into the idea of magic. 1881 01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,399 And then around the time that Bloomborough came out, which 1882 01:33:40,399 --> 01:33:43,039 I think was about a year ago, which is a 1883 01:33:43,079 --> 01:33:46,680 set that was very red Wall in nature. I really 1884 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,000 just thought the whole theming of that magic set was cool, 1885 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,239 and I downloaded Arena and played a bunch of it. 1886 01:33:54,199 --> 01:33:58,000 I always said that there were a few silver bullets 1887 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,439 that could get me into anything, and Final Fantas is 1888 01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,720 one of them. I've really loved Final Fantasy for most 1889 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,560 of my life. Fall Fantasy ten is probably my all 1890 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,760 time favorite game, and so when they rolled out all 1891 01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,560 the magic stuff, I was like, oh boy, here we go, 1892 01:34:13,119 --> 01:34:17,600 all right, And so far I've really spent most of 1893 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,199 my time playing online Magic Arena because that has just 1894 01:34:21,239 --> 01:34:24,279 been the easier way to get involved with those cards 1895 01:34:24,279 --> 01:34:26,520 and play them, Which is a little bit of a 1896 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,479 shame because from what I've talked with people who play 1897 01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,960 a lot of magic, I've talked with people who don't 1898 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,600 play a lot of magic, and the consensus seems to 1899 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:40,359 be that number one, this is an incredible adaptation of 1900 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,840 Final Fantasy into the magic the gathering system. I think 1901 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,520 it would have been really easy for this to be 1902 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,720 kind of a cash in just say we're going to 1903 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,680 take some magic cards that we already had designed and 1904 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,479 slap Cloud and seph Roth on them and get some cash. 1905 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,319 And to be clear, there is a separate discussion to 1906 01:34:58,359 --> 01:35:01,000 be had about how the MSRP of this entire set 1907 01:35:01,159 --> 01:35:04,880 is slightly higher than normal because they know that they 1908 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,800 can ask for it, and that kind of sucks. But 1909 01:35:09,039 --> 01:35:13,199 the actual design of the set is incredible. There's so 1910 01:35:13,399 --> 01:35:17,119 much love and attention put into adapting the way that 1911 01:35:17,159 --> 01:35:20,159 these characters act, the way they do things. I think 1912 01:35:20,199 --> 01:35:22,760 one of my favorite ones is the way that they 1913 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:26,880 handle summons, which they created this creature type that is 1914 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,680 a saga creature where you play it and it kind 1915 01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,399 of ramps up in power while it's out and then eventually, 1916 01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:34,359 if it does not die in combat or because of 1917 01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:36,640 whatever other cards that happen, it will eventually go away. 1918 01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:38,880 So it acts like a summon. But then you can 1919 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,279 have characters like Ridia or you know who can kind 1920 01:35:41,279 --> 01:35:44,640 of bring those summons back in for a second run. 1921 01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,720 So that's just like UNA's overdrive in Final Fantasy ten, 1922 01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,840 is she does her grand Summon and brings in these 1923 01:35:50,279 --> 01:35:54,319 AONs to help her. When you have the espers, like 1924 01:35:54,359 --> 01:35:57,760 in Final Fantasy six, you have Tera who literally when 1925 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,720 you meet certain requirements, you can flip Tara over and 1926 01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,000 the backside of the card is now Esper Tarra, and 1927 01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:06,199 you can play that version of that character for a 1928 01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:09,199 certain amount of time using her trance mechanics, and then 1929 01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:12,239 flip her back over to normal Tarra. And there's so 1930 01:36:12,359 --> 01:36:16,159 many little cool touches like that that just make this 1931 01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:20,920 set feel like you are playing Final Fantasy. And there's 1932 01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,600 so many deep references to all the mainline games. They 1933 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,880 specifically stuck to the mainline numbered one through sixteen, and 1934 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,079 but really went deep on all those, especially with like 1935 01:36:31,119 --> 01:36:33,720 File Fantasy too. Commune with Beavers is such a good 1936 01:36:34,279 --> 01:36:36,760 card poll that's such a fun thing to pull out 1937 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,520 of that game and turn into a card. I really 1938 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,039 love it. I think the Commander decks show a lot 1939 01:36:41,039 --> 01:36:44,000 of that flavor too. There are if you don't play Magic. 1940 01:36:44,079 --> 01:36:48,319 The Gathering Commander is a separate game mode where four players. 1941 01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,439 Usually you can do two or three, but commonly it's 1942 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:55,640 four players play with higher life counts, and then a 1943 01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,600 deck of one hundred cards that are what people call 1944 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,439 singleton Belie leave the parlance, but basically one hundred cards. 1945 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,880 They're all differently named and it's kind of like it's 1946 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,079 a little bit like the Mario Party of Magic, the 1947 01:37:09,079 --> 01:37:11,199 Gathering in some ways. You get these decks that are 1948 01:37:11,279 --> 01:37:16,399 really complex and big, but you're also playing them much 1949 01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,840 more like socially because it's four players, and you can 1950 01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,000 be like, oh, I'm going to attack this person this turn, 1951 01:37:22,039 --> 01:37:23,920 but the next turn they're like, hey, don't hit me. 1952 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:25,840 I'm in last place. You know, my life is lowest, 1953 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:27,760 so you go for the other person. You can do 1954 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:29,640 some of the table scheming and stuff like that, and 1955 01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,520 that gets really interesting. And the commander decks, which Wizards 1956 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:37,239 puts out like special pre con preconstructed commander decks so 1957 01:37:37,239 --> 01:37:40,399 you can just buy and play immediately. All come from 1958 01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:44,159 what I would say probably the four most I'm going 1959 01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:45,880 to get some heat for this, but the four most 1960 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,000 popular like final fantasies that are around it's six', ten, 1961 01:37:50,159 --> 01:37:52,279 fourteen and, seven AND. 1962 01:37:52,359 --> 01:37:53,039 Speaker 2: I think that's. 1963 01:37:53,079 --> 01:37:56,960 Speaker 4: Accurate, yeah, yeah some people sometimes take onus with, ten 1964 01:37:57,039 --> 01:37:58,760 BUT i think like ten is a big. Dog and 1965 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:00,039 Then i'm not just saying that because. 1966 01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:04,960 Speaker 1: Is one of the more as somebody who has a 1967 01:38:05,079 --> 01:38:08,479 very surface level relationship with that. Series ten is up 1968 01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,600 there for me in terms of like just as a, 1969 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,399 kid a lot of nostalgia for those. 1970 01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,000 Speaker 4: Characters, YEAH i know the Nine heads and the Eight 1971 01:38:15,039 --> 01:38:16,960 heads are riding on me for this, one but LIKE i, 1972 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:22,680 promise and There's grade nine, representation there's great eight. Representation, 1973 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,600 like there's a lot of really cool stuff in the. 1974 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,239 Set if, any if Any Final fantasy got a little short, 1975 01:38:27,319 --> 01:38:29,680 CHANGED i think it was. TWELVE i think twelve could 1976 01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,840 have used just a little bit more. LOVE i Wish 1977 01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:35,239 balthier And fran were separate cards and not combined into one. 1978 01:38:35,319 --> 01:38:40,359 Card justice For, Yes, yes there's a lot of cool 1979 01:38:40,399 --> 01:38:42,520 stuff in this set THAT i think works really really. 1980 01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,720 Well and again they do great. THINGS i love The 1981 01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,319 fang And vinil From Final fantasy thirteen have a mechanic 1982 01:38:48,359 --> 01:38:50,800 where if you get them both on the field at 1983 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,319 the same, time you literally flip their cards over and 1984 01:38:53,359 --> 01:38:56,399 then put them together to make one big card that Is. 1985 01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:02,439 Ragnarok and it's such a cool visualization of the game. 1986 01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:06,439 Mechanic so that all of that is. Great that's number, 1987 01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,560 one that all works, Great but number two is this 1988 01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,600 is also a really easy set to learn if you've 1989 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,680 never Played, magic and it's going to teach you a 1990 01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:17,079 lot of the very core basics of, magic the idea 1991 01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:19,079 that you kind of play two color, decks what those 1992 01:39:19,079 --> 01:39:21,920 color identities, are what you want to do with those, 1993 01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:27,359 decks the. Cards i've seen previous magic cards where you 1994 01:39:27,399 --> 01:39:30,039 look at it and you're, like they Put ulysses By 1995 01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,239 James choice on a freaking magic. Card, MAN i don't 1996 01:39:33,319 --> 01:39:36,760 know what's happening. Here and this is a lot easier 1997 01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,920 to just kind of pull a, card see what it, 1998 01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,199 does and immediately start to, Understand, okay this is how 1999 01:39:42,199 --> 01:39:44,119 it can all sync, together this is how it can 2000 01:39:44,159 --> 01:39:47,760 all play. Together on, ARENA i play A landfall, deck 2001 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,119 which is basically just all centered around playing, lands and 2002 01:39:51,159 --> 01:39:53,199 then any card that Has landfall on it gets a 2003 01:39:53,279 --> 01:39:55,479 like bonus when you play a. Land and so it's 2004 01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,800 all about doing these cool things where you're building up 2005 01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,840 energy and ramping really. Fast while also SO i create 2006 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,079 giant swarms of chocobos and then throw them at my, 2007 01:40:03,279 --> 01:40:08,520 enemies AND i think that's kind of the bummer in 2008 01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,640 all this is that it's really hard to get physical right, 2009 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,359 now when this is probably the set THAT i would 2010 01:40:14,359 --> 01:40:16,239 tell a lot of people if you've ever been curious 2011 01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:18,640 about magically, gathering this is one to jump in. On 2012 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:19,520 this is one to check. 2013 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,800 Speaker 1: Out this is up there with The lord of The 2014 01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,199 rings set they, did, yeah a couple of. Years that's 2015 01:40:24,279 --> 01:40:25,239 that's WHERE i got back. 2016 01:40:25,239 --> 01:40:27,000 Speaker 2: In, wait are you saying it's hard to get physical 2017 01:40:27,039 --> 01:40:28,960 because people are like buying them, all so it's hard to. 2018 01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,800 Speaker 4: Find, yes, yeah, yeah the stock out really. High scalpers, 2019 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:35,199 are although that has been cooling pretty fast BECAUSE i 2020 01:40:35,239 --> 01:40:38,720 Think wizards probably saw some of the demand coming in 2021 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,239 and tried to deal with. It so if you're trying 2022 01:40:41,279 --> 01:40:44,880 to get like A vv card that's like super, Deluxe 2023 01:40:45,039 --> 01:40:47,640 surge foil. Whatever if you're trying to get like the collector's, 2024 01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,319 items that's that's something That wizards also does THAT i 2025 01:40:50,399 --> 01:40:52,840 kind of wish other stuff would. Do is they, say 2026 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:57,960 like there are collectors, boosters which are way more, expensive hilariously. Expensive, 2027 01:40:58,119 --> 01:41:01,279 yeah but they're specifically for people that want to chase 2028 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:07,520 really nice cards and collect, them sell, them see them 2029 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,399 as financial. INVESTMENTS i guess if you think that's a wise, 2030 01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,479 CHOICE i would personally advise you not to do. That 2031 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,399 but your life is your, life and there's kind of 2032 01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,159 play boosters for people who want to, play who want 2033 01:41:20,199 --> 01:41:22,039 to just get the cards and put them down on 2034 01:41:22,039 --> 01:41:25,119 the table and play some cool. Stuff there's as always 2035 01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:27,760 a little bit of gray in. There BUT i think 2036 01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,760 even if you can get a hand on the starter 2037 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,920 sets which HAVE i think It's cloud is red white 2038 01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:40,760 and Sephy roth is black, blue two very clear understandable deck. 2039 01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,760 Identities archetypes really playable right out of the. Box you're 2040 01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,000 immediately going to have a good time with. Them and 2041 01:41:47,039 --> 01:41:49,640 then The commander decks are very. PLAYABLE i would personally 2042 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,119 SAY i think the ten deck is the one to 2043 01:41:52,119 --> 01:41:54,560 pick up if you haven't played, before or maybe the seven. 2044 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,640 Deck those are going to be easier to. Understand And 2045 01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:01,199 pilot versus fourteen is a lot of complex spell slinging 2046 01:42:01,239 --> 01:42:03,920 and stuff like, that but just a really it's a 2047 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,079 fun set and they did a great. Job there's great, 2048 01:42:06,199 --> 01:42:08,279 art there's great work in all, this and even On 2049 01:42:08,359 --> 01:42:10,960 arena there's there's kind of a lot of different events 2050 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,720 happening where you can do different drafts and even the 2051 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:15,880 jump in, mode WHICH i would highly recommend if you're 2052 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,439 Downloading arena to check it, out do the jump. In 2053 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,279 it'll let you pick two different color, identities mash them 2054 01:42:21,279 --> 01:42:23,520 together into a, deck and play a bunch of matches with, 2055 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,159 that it's like a really good time to get in 2056 01:42:26,199 --> 01:42:30,199 and just play, magic especially if you Like Final fantasy 2057 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:33,520 and you've been curious. It just you, know there's there's. 2058 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,520 Diasterisk there's always an, asterisk, right and that's kind of 2059 01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,239 the bummer asterisk is that physical is kind of hard 2060 01:42:39,239 --> 01:42:41,399 to get right, now depending on where you. Are it's 2061 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,960 also a little bit more expensive than it normally would. 2062 01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:45,960 Be all the MSRPs have kind of been bumped up 2063 01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:52,359 because it's high in. Demands, yeah, yeah. 2064 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:57,159 Speaker 1: Yeah IT'S i found five packs at the store today 2065 01:42:57,199 --> 01:43:01,399 AND i was, like And i've been looking everywhere AND 2066 01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,920 i was, like, Oh i'm gonna grab those. IMMEDIATELY i 2067 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,039 just got the play. Boosters so these are not like 2068 01:43:07,079 --> 01:43:09,680 the Super you, know you have a chance of getting 2069 01:43:10,359 --> 01:43:14,920 the some of the like The chocobo's in, this BUT 2070 01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:17,079 i don't think you have a chance of GETTING i 2071 01:43:17,079 --> 01:43:20,880 think like the big chase card is the serialized Golden chocobo, 2072 01:43:21,159 --> 01:43:24,520 Yea AND i think that's only for. Collectors but there's 2073 01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:29,520 also another series of, like, uh colorful, chocobos AND i 2074 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,279 think you can pull those from from. These but, yeah 2075 01:43:32,319 --> 01:43:35,239 THE I i have talked, To i've confirmed with multiple 2076 01:43:35,239 --> 01:43:40,800 parties both ON pr and Like wizards repped, themselves like 2077 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,439 one of the the main designers of the, Set gavin 2078 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,000 AND i was, like you you are going to be reprinting, these, 2079 01:43:48,079 --> 01:43:51,800 RIGHT i, mean and everyone has said, yes there will be, 2080 01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:57,760 reprints SO i, think, like you, know if you're really 2081 01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,079 serious about wanting to get, these definitely tried to get 2082 01:44:01,079 --> 01:44:03,720 them if you. Can but if you, can't you know 2083 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:05,239 there is an you'll have another. Chance. 2084 01:44:05,279 --> 01:44:09,880 Speaker 4: Hopefully don't don't overpay out of. Fomo AND i said 2085 01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,159 that About pokemon cards, before And i'll say it About 2086 01:44:12,239 --> 01:44:16,640 magic cards. Now don't overpay out of. Fomo you, know 2087 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,680 these things come and, go and there's always like a 2088 01:44:20,319 --> 01:44:22,359 hype around a lot of this stuff that people can 2089 01:44:22,359 --> 01:44:26,039 get swept up. IN i highly recommend being a frugal 2090 01:44:26,199 --> 01:44:28,560 card player first and, foremost and that's WHY i usually, say, 2091 01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,319 like if you want to Play magic right now and 2092 01:44:30,359 --> 01:44:33,560 you're kind of, unsure arena is free to play On. 2093 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,520 Steam it's really easy to jump in and just start 2094 01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,199 playing matches, there and they have a lot of great 2095 01:44:39,279 --> 01:44:42,079 modes for jumping in and playing that. Stuff so, yeah 2096 01:44:42,239 --> 01:44:44,399 And Final fantasy is an arena. 2097 01:44:45,199 --> 01:44:46,279 Speaker 1: Again you can play with those. 2098 01:44:46,319 --> 01:44:50,199 Speaker 4: Cards that's the weird part is so the other big 2099 01:44:50,319 --> 01:44:52,720 drama In magic right. Now and Granted i'm a newcomer to, 2100 01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,960 this so IF i If i'm a little out of, 2101 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,159 pocket you, know people in the, comments please correct. Me 2102 01:44:57,239 --> 01:45:01,359 But Spider man is kind of the other upcoming, one 2103 01:45:01,359 --> 01:45:04,760 and there's been some drama about the fortnightification Of, magic 2104 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:06,399 The gathering and all that kind of, stuff a lot 2105 01:45:06,399 --> 01:45:09,840 of brand, crossovers But Spider man is a weird situation 2106 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:15,039 Where matt Like wizards got THE ip For Final fantasy 2107 01:45:15,119 --> 01:45:18,000 to do both the print and the digital, version so 2108 01:45:18,039 --> 01:45:21,600 it's in print and it's In. Arena Spider man is 2109 01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,199 only going to be in, print and they basically have 2110 01:45:24,279 --> 01:45:27,319 to create a proxy set that is the same, cards 2111 01:45:28,039 --> 01:45:32,560 but Not Spider man For arena because apparently there was 2112 01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:36,279 some drama around getting the rights locked. Down you can 2113 01:45:36,319 --> 01:45:39,239 go listen to Any magic podcast if you're. CHOOSING i 2114 01:45:39,279 --> 01:45:42,880 was talking With Palomine chievenbod about this the other, day 2115 01:45:43,239 --> 01:45:47,119 and it's just weird that they're going to have like 2116 01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:50,239 two different. Sets So Final fantasy worked out very well 2117 01:45:50,279 --> 01:45:52,520 and that they got to kind of do this and 2118 01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:54,880 put the whole set out. There as. Is so you're 2119 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,680 going to play online with the same cards you would 2120 01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,439 play in. Person, yes. 2121 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,600 Speaker 1: So that is a good, Reminder, ERIC i need to 2122 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,399 If i'm going to Get Spider man, BOOSTERS i need 2123 01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:08,079 to pre order. Them they are. 2124 01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:12,479 Speaker 4: Available, LUCKILY i don't care About Spider, man So i'm. 2125 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:18,880 Glady all, right there makes. Spern. YEAH i Like Spider. 2126 01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,520 MAN i Like Spider, MAN i just don't like want to. 2127 01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:22,840 Speaker 1: Buy that is totally. 2128 01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,239 Speaker 4: Fair lots and lots of money worth Of Spider man 2129 01:46:25,359 --> 01:46:27,000 trading cards is HOW i would. 2130 01:46:27,039 --> 01:46:31,399 Speaker 1: Put i'm, Hotter, Yeah i'm hotter On Spider man Than Final. 2131 01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:37,079 Fantasy so that's Where i'll choose through. That but really, 2132 01:46:37,159 --> 01:46:39,840 Quick i'm going to open one. Pack we're gonna see 2133 01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,520 what we, Get, Okay So i'll narrate this for audio. 2134 01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,800 Listeners opening the, pack you got an art card right 2135 01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:47,520 off the, bat. 2136 01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,720 Speaker 2: The victory Fan fair. Music if you get, yes, Chokoo. 2137 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:52,439 Speaker 1: Eric who is? This what do we got? 2138 01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:56,920 Speaker 4: Here? Oh that looks like an astrologian From Final fantasy. 2139 01:46:57,039 --> 01:46:59,640 Fourteen IF i had to take a, guess that's a 2140 01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:03,439 lot l astrologen holding up. THERE i forgot what it's, 2141 01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,920 called but it's like the tool that you. USE i 2142 01:47:06,199 --> 01:47:09,319 only astro an. Astrolabe yeah that's probably. 2143 01:47:09,399 --> 01:47:14,479 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, okay what else do we? Got we Got Chocobo. 2144 01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,359 Kick it's a sorcery. Card it's a good. Card uh 2145 01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,159 kicker return a land you control to its owner's. Hand 2146 01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:23,319 so kicker in magic is you can pay an extra, cost. 2147 01:47:24,119 --> 01:47:25,119 Speaker 2: Like you got a choo. 2148 01:47:27,039 --> 01:47:31,000 Speaker 1: Choo, yeah it's not The chocobo's that, people but. 2149 01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,199 Speaker 4: That's What i'm talking. About like the flavor is so 2150 01:47:34,279 --> 01:47:36,880 good where it's literally Called chocobo kick and there's a 2151 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,560 kicker on, it which is fun. Wordplay but then also 2152 01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:42,840 it plays into that landfall idea of it puts a 2153 01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:45,159 land on your field back into your, hand so the 2154 01:47:45,279 --> 01:47:47,279 next turn you can play the land again and get 2155 01:47:47,399 --> 01:47:50,199 the landfall PROCs from your. Cards you can kind of 2156 01:47:50,239 --> 01:47:53,560 see everything start to work and how it cycles. Around, 2157 01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:56,159 speaking WHICH i hope they made Choke alena a. Card 2158 01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,439 Choke alena was that the girl dressed up like a 2159 01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:04,479 chocobo in Fifteen she's a characters LIKE npc you talked, 2160 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:05,960 To she's like dressed up as A. 2161 01:48:06,079 --> 01:48:07,199 Speaker 2: Jokovo that's. 2162 01:48:07,239 --> 01:48:10,079 Speaker 4: Awesome that Would i'm looking this up BECAUSE i don't 2163 01:48:10,119 --> 01:48:14,560 fully believe, you, Right. 2164 01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:15,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2165 01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:16,640 Speaker 3: One. 2166 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,800 Speaker 1: THING i also, like there's a card here That i've 2167 01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:25,119 got Called dreams Of. Laguna, yeah, Yeah. Fantasy, YEAH i 2168 01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:27,800 wouldn't have known that Because i'm not A Final fantasy. 2169 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,199 Siko BUT i like on the bottom of the cards 2170 01:48:30,279 --> 01:48:34,199 it tells you which games. From, Yes so this one 2171 01:48:34,359 --> 01:48:39,000 Is Magic Tech. Infantry it's From Final fantasy. Fifteen it's 2172 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,640 an Artifact Creature. Soldier i'm just gonna roll through these 2173 01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,359 because they're probably. 2174 01:48:44,079 --> 01:48:47,560 Speaker 4: Not pretending that's just a standard. Dude that's, yeah you're 2175 01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:51,000 putting on the Field warriors. Sword this is From Final fantasy. 2176 01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:53,840 One that's the jars like. Stuff so they put in 2177 01:48:54,239 --> 01:48:57,680 a mechanic to do like job classes In magic The, 2178 01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:58,640 gathering which is really. 2179 01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,279 Speaker 1: Cool this is a cool. Card it's a but cornered 2180 01:49:01,319 --> 01:49:07,439 by Black mages and, YEAH i love that iconic iconic character. 2181 01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:13,439 Designs final Ten. Syncopate OH i Got oh speaking Of 2182 01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,680 Final fantasy, TEN i got an uncommon full Art Luca, 2183 01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:24,720 stadium which is where they do. Blitz, Right, yeah so 2184 01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:30,199 this is an. Artifact interesting got clashed the icons obviously 2185 01:49:30,359 --> 01:49:34,960 From Final fantasy. Sixteen All, right we're getting close to 2186 01:49:35,039 --> 01:49:42,119 getting to our rare hopefully on a lixir random. Encounter that's. 2187 01:49:42,199 --> 01:49:43,159 FUN i like. 2188 01:49:43,239 --> 01:49:45,840 Speaker 4: That, yeah they have a command, menu want, Too that's 2189 01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:46,680 that's pretty. Fun. 2190 01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah OH i got a Rare Jadoor Aristo Aristocratic capital 2191 01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:59,279 From Final fantasy Six it is a land that. 2192 01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:04,199 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah it's it's the land that has the adventure 2193 01:50:04,239 --> 01:50:06,840 stuff on it, too so it has like extra effects 2194 01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:07,239 that you can. 2195 01:50:07,359 --> 01:50:09,239 Speaker 1: Use oh, YEAH i guess that's really. Cool, OKAY i 2196 01:50:09,319 --> 01:50:13,600 got a legendary creature human noble. Warrior this is a 2197 01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:21,640 rare From Final fantasy. Fourteen Zenos Yay, Galvus Zenos Yay. 2198 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:25,359 Speaker 4: GALVAS a lot of people really hate this dude because 2199 01:50:25,359 --> 01:50:26,960 he turns, around, right he's got it? 2200 01:50:27,039 --> 01:50:31,560 Speaker 1: Back oh he. Does, yeah, yeah he turns Into, shinryu 2201 01:50:32,039 --> 01:50:33,840 transcendent rival Of. 2202 01:50:34,119 --> 01:50:37,600 Speaker 4: Dragon i'm gonna warn people that if they care About 2203 01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,840 Final fantasy, fourteen that's not like a Huge Final fantasy fourteen, 2204 01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:45,720 Spoiler but if you care about fourteen, spoilers a fair 2205 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,159 number of the cards are spoilers in this set have 2206 01:50:49,399 --> 01:50:53,439 some contextual. Spoilers for it's like a picture of a 2207 01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:57,880 main character, dying not quite but like a little. Close 2208 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,560 because they do some things with like mechanical Like earth 2209 01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:04,640 has a mechanic where when she dies in, combat everybody 2210 01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:09,079 gets powered, up and it's like that's that's flavor text 2211 01:51:09,159 --> 01:51:12,560 that also kind of gives away. Something so, yeah there's 2212 01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,199 there's some of those sprinkled throughout all The Final. Fantasies 2213 01:51:15,279 --> 01:51:15,800 but and. 2214 01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:19,319 Speaker 1: My foil was a dwarf In Castle. Guard OH i 2215 01:51:19,399 --> 01:51:21,399 love those, Guys they're. Great and THEN i just got 2216 01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:25,199 A i Got Insomnia Crown city from. Fifteen. 2217 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah that's good. 2218 01:51:28,279 --> 01:51:33,279 Speaker 1: Land so, Yeah i'm happy About Lucas. Stadium that's a cool. 2219 01:51:33,359 --> 01:51:34,000 Speaker 4: Card that's. 2220 01:51:34,039 --> 01:51:36,840 Speaker 1: Sick, yeah but you know there's a lot of that 2221 01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,239 stuff as, somebody like, AGAIN i, said Like Final fantasy, 2222 01:51:40,319 --> 01:51:43,800 ten that's a GAME i, remember you, know playing with my. 2223 01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,560 Friends so like that kind of imagery is like more 2224 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,600 striking to me than something from F f six or, 2225 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,119 eight you know that kind of. Thing so but this 2226 01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:53,960 that's really. FUN i Think eric did a great job 2227 01:51:54,039 --> 01:51:59,800 of kind of breaking down why it works so. Well and, 2228 01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,800 YEAH i just hope more people can can kind of 2229 01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:06,039 find them get in your. HANDS i totally agree if you. 2230 01:52:06,119 --> 01:52:09,520 ARE i am A tcg. COLLECTOR i mostly Collect, pokemon 2231 01:52:10,039 --> 01:52:11,720 BUT i like to Collect magic BECAUSE i like to 2232 01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:15,039 play different. Decks i'm less so Like i'm more So 2233 01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:18,119 i'm a player Of. MAGIC i don't play Much. Pokemon 2234 01:52:18,319 --> 01:52:23,199 but one thing you should never do is pay out 2235 01:52:23,239 --> 01:52:25,079 your ass for a pack of. 2236 01:52:25,159 --> 01:52:27,520 Speaker 4: Cards also support your local game. 2237 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:31,079 Speaker 1: Store, yeah, yeah and some not all local game stores 2238 01:52:31,359 --> 01:52:35,079 are as fair when it comes TO i love one 2239 01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:37,720 of my one of my local game. Stores they even 2240 01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:41,560 in demand super in demand. Packs they will they only 2241 01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,760 sell FOR, msrp even if it's like really rare hard to. 2242 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,560 Get if they have, it you can just come by 2243 01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:54,840 pick up pick up some. Packs other local shops one 2244 01:52:55,399 --> 01:52:58,439 will will charge you out the out the. Butt it 2245 01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,479 really kind of you. COULD i would reckon men like 2246 01:53:01,199 --> 01:53:05,039 figuring out if you have multiple, locally like try calling, Around, 2247 01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,840 hey what how much are you charging for, this and 2248 01:53:08,039 --> 01:53:10,600 just kind of compare and try to figure it out that. 2249 01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:13,039 Speaker 4: WAY i love HOW i went support your local game 2250 01:53:13,119 --> 01:53:15,520 store and you're, like, yeah but like not these. Guys, 2251 01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:18,359 YEAH i mean like if. 2252 01:53:18,239 --> 01:53:21,239 Speaker 1: You, are if you are effectively scalping, people which some 2253 01:53:21,399 --> 01:53:23,239 local game stores, DO i think that's. 2254 01:53:23,319 --> 01:53:26,319 Speaker 4: BAD i will say one thing That i've seen some 2255 01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:29,439 stories doing THAT i think is pretty smart is they, say, 2256 01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:34,199 like if you want to actually crack, this like we 2257 01:53:34,279 --> 01:53:36,399 will break the seal here and then sell it to 2258 01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:39,479 you FOR. Msrp but, like if you are clearly trying 2259 01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,600 to scalp this and sell like the sealed, product then 2260 01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,239 you're going to have to pay what the online going price. 2261 01:53:45,399 --> 01:53:47,560 IS i think that's. Fair, YEAH i think that's a 2262 01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:50,359 pretty fair compromise, because, yeah if you want to crack the, 2263 01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:52,680 packs then buy them at the normal. Price but if 2264 01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,640 you're trying to like buy a sealed set and sit 2265 01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:58,159 on it for potentially higher price later on down the, 2266 01:53:58,239 --> 01:54:00,680 road like happens in a lot of, yeah trading card, 2267 01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,600 games then they, say, okay well if you're going to do, 2268 01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:06,560 that then we're going to get the profit that we 2269 01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:07,079 should get. 2270 01:54:07,159 --> 01:54:11,000 Speaker 1: Off, yeah that's, fair that's fair THAT i just like the, 2271 01:54:11,119 --> 01:54:15,920 blanket you. Know scalping price was JUST i can't remember 2272 01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,640 the exact number it was for a set Of pokemon 2273 01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:23,439 Pack it was the New Journey Together prismatic Oh No Journey, 2274 01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:26,079 together which is really is really in high. Demand my 2275 01:54:26,239 --> 01:54:28,920 local shop was, like, yep four fifty or five bucks 2276 01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:32,199 WHATEVER msrp, is and the other, yeah and the other 2277 01:54:32,279 --> 01:54:36,079 SHOP i called was, like, yeah it's fifteen dollars a, 2278 01:54:36,199 --> 01:54:39,199 pack And i'm just, like, okay WELL i know which 2279 01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:43,279 which One i'm going to. Support but, yeah so like 2280 01:54:43,359 --> 01:54:46,279 if you have multiple game stores, around you double, check you. 2281 01:54:46,359 --> 01:54:50,479 Know but a couple more things before we end the, 2282 01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,520 Episode charles will go to. You you've been PLAYING Fbc, 2283 01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:58,319 firebreak LIKE i, said spin off From, control a co 2284 01:54:58,439 --> 01:55:01,079 op multiplayer. Shooter tell us about. 2285 01:55:01,119 --> 01:55:06,960 Speaker 3: It, yes so this is a weird. Game it is 2286 01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,439 remedy making a spin off Of. Control as you, said 2287 01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:14,520 you play as essentially like maintenance guys in THE, fbc 2288 01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:18,920 which is the game Controls Federal bureau Of. Control it's 2289 01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:24,920 like kind of a haunted branch of. Government and your 2290 01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,920 maintenance isn't stuff like cleaning toilets or. Whatever it's, like, 2291 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:33,279 oh there's sticky notes and they're covering this whole wing 2292 01:55:33,399 --> 01:55:35,680 of THE fbc and you need to shoot them all. 2293 01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,479 Off and also THE hisss has possessed a bunch OF 2294 01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,479 i guess they're workers OF, fbc and you have to 2295 01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,800 kill all them, Too so it's like it plays kind 2296 01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:46,960 of like a zombie. Shooter and then you also have 2297 01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:51,720 other tasks that you have to. Do AND i went 2298 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,920 To finland to play it a month or two. Ago 2299 01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,119 they like If i'd be. THERE i did a preview, 2300 01:55:59,119 --> 01:56:03,520 trip AND i liked that session more THAN i have 2301 01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,159 liked What i've played, here because they've changed a bunch 2302 01:56:06,199 --> 01:56:08,079 of stuff as games off and do. Development but the 2303 01:56:08,159 --> 01:56:11,840 main thing for me that's different right now is the 2304 01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:13,279 thing that makes the game unique is you have these 2305 01:56:13,279 --> 01:56:15,359 things called crisis, kits which is like a set of 2306 01:56:15,439 --> 01:56:18,760 abilities you have that are like specific to The federal 2307 01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:22,079 Bal Over, control which always has these like supernatural mundane. 2308 01:56:22,199 --> 01:56:25,159 Items SO i like use the splash kit WHERE i 2309 01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:27,000 have like a big water cannon AND i can spray 2310 01:56:27,039 --> 01:56:29,279 stuff with, water which can like put out fires and 2311 01:56:29,359 --> 01:56:31,640 if someone's got like some kind of hazard on, THEM 2312 01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,039 i can wash that. Off and the other parts of 2313 01:56:35,079 --> 01:56:37,199 the crisis kit is you have a, deployable which is 2314 01:56:37,279 --> 01:56:39,239 like just a thing you set down in the world 2315 01:56:39,319 --> 01:56:39,840 that has different. 2316 01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,760 Speaker 1: EFFECTS i remember those like the, gnome right that would, like, 2317 01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:43,600 well that's. 2318 01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,159 Speaker 3: That's the third, thing which is the altered, augment which 2319 01:56:46,159 --> 01:56:48,720 is kind of like, Ability, yeah, Sorry i'm getting to Have, 2320 01:56:49,279 --> 01:56:52,680 no you're, Fine you're. Fine the deployable is like so splash, 2321 01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:53,399 kit that's the ONE i. 2322 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:54,199 Speaker 4: Use you put it. 2323 01:56:54,279 --> 01:56:56,640 Speaker 3: Down IF i spray my water can at. It it 2324 01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,239 creates like a little healing. Field and that also like 2325 01:56:59,279 --> 01:57:01,159 sprays water all, Over so if there's a place that's on, 2326 01:57:01,279 --> 01:57:03,399 fire you can drench. It if you got a bunch 2327 01:57:03,439 --> 01:57:06,239 of like enemies overwhelming, YOU i can put this down real. 2328 01:57:06,319 --> 01:57:08,119 Quick we can all get healed while we help clear the. 2329 01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:10,680 Speaker 4: Mouth it's very useful if you have guns during all. 2330 01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:13,600 This you also have, guns, okay BECAUSE i was, like 2331 01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,159 are you being sent in to fight the zombies with 2332 01:57:16,399 --> 01:57:19,600 just a really big super Soaker and that's kind of, crazy, 2333 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:22,239 honestly that cooler it is a. 2334 01:57:22,319 --> 01:57:26,960 Speaker 3: Gun and the third thing is altern, augment, which like 2335 01:57:27,279 --> 01:57:30,319 the other, ones are like magical quote unquote in like 2336 01:57:31,319 --> 01:57:33,479 the sense that they're doing things like water doesn't normally 2337 01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,279 heal you in real life for. Example, uh the altered 2338 01:57:36,279 --> 01:57:40,079 augment is like you add an objectively magical item to your. 2339 01:57:40,199 --> 01:57:43,520 Thing so in the splash, kit you get a, Teapot 2340 01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:45,399 you attach it to the water. Can it turns it 2341 01:57:45,439 --> 01:57:47,439 into a flame thrower and now you have like a 2342 01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:50,520 huge flamethrower that is like shooting fire all over the. 2343 01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:55,560 Place useful and. Chaotic, also all the altered augments can 2344 01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,920 also hurt your. Allies So alex mentioned the. GNOME i 2345 01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,520 think the jump kit has a, gnome and it's just 2346 01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:03,399 a garden home you put down and then it just 2347 01:58:03,479 --> 01:58:05,800 kind of gets possessed and jumps around and causes these 2348 01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,079 crazy lightning, storms. Terrifying it will kill you and your, 2349 01:58:09,119 --> 01:58:11,119 friends so you have to run away from, it but 2350 01:58:11,239 --> 01:58:14,239 it's useful if there's again a bunch of. Guys the 2351 01:58:14,359 --> 01:58:16,239 THING i have not liked about the game so far 2352 01:58:16,479 --> 01:58:20,640 is those are all locked under like. Upgrades so the 2353 01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:23,880 most defining characteristic of the, game which is these kits 2354 01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,279 and all their, abilities you don't actually get a lot 2355 01:58:26,319 --> 01:58:28,359 of them until you've played the game for a good, 2356 01:58:28,359 --> 01:58:30,079 amount AND i feel like they should be there from the. 2357 01:58:30,119 --> 01:58:32,239 Start so it's clear like this is what makes the game, 2358 01:58:32,319 --> 01:58:37,039 interesting and even like the most basic upgrades you have 2359 01:58:37,199 --> 01:58:40,199 to get from playing the, Game I've i'm like level. 2360 01:58:40,279 --> 01:58:44,720 Ten i've played maybe four or five hours at this, 2361 01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:46,479 point IF i had to, estimate not as much AS 2362 01:58:46,479 --> 01:58:47,880 i would have liked to at this. Point BUT i 2363 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,279 only just now got my. DEPLOYABLE i don't have my 2364 01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,960 ultimate thing, yet SO i can just now put down 2365 01:58:54,039 --> 01:58:57,439 my washer thing and when you don't have all the exciting, 2366 01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:01,000 stuff the game is kind of. Boring it's just not like. 2367 01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:03,039 Speaker 4: You So, eric you mentioned. 2368 01:59:03,079 --> 01:59:06,359 Speaker 3: Guns you do have, guns and there are more that 2369 01:59:06,399 --> 01:59:08,239 you can unlock as you get further in through the, 2370 01:59:08,279 --> 01:59:10,399 Game but you start out and you just GET i 2371 01:59:10,439 --> 01:59:12,600 think there's a submachine, gun there's a, shotgun and there's a, 2372 01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:16,279 revolver and then your first upgrades are you can get 2373 01:59:16,399 --> 01:59:18,800 a bolt action rifle and you can upgrade the revolver's. 2374 01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:20,880 Damage so a lot of People i've seen at my 2375 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:23,399 level have just been using the upgraded revolver damage because 2376 01:59:23,399 --> 01:59:26,359 it just does the most, damage. Right but the guns 2377 01:59:26,399 --> 01:59:29,439 don't feel particularly. Good you can only have one at a. 2378 01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,520 Time Like i'd love to have OPTIONS i could switch. 2379 01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:34,960 BETWEEN i wish. THAT i don't know if you used 2380 01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:36,760 a gun a, bunch that would be how you upgrade. 2381 01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:38,920 It but, instead all the upgrades are in this like 2382 01:59:39,319 --> 01:59:41,920 it's not a live service. Game they're gonna add, updates 2383 01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:43,840 but you don't have to pay like a for a 2384 01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,800 battle pass or. Anything but the upgrades are structured like 2385 01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:49,720 a battle. Pass so in order to get to page 2386 01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,279 two of the, upgrades you have to have unlocked a 2387 01:59:52,359 --> 01:59:56,119 certain number of stuff on page, one which includes class 2388 01:59:56,239 --> 02:00:00,199 upgrades and weapons and. Cosmetics so it's a thing where 2389 02:00:00,239 --> 02:00:02,319 it's LIKE i have to unlock the Yellow gloves in 2390 02:00:02,439 --> 02:00:04,239 order to get to the next page WHERE i can 2391 02:00:04,319 --> 02:00:08,000 potentially later unlock you, know the actual gear abilities THAT 2392 02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:08,359 i want to. 2393 02:00:08,399 --> 02:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Have, WAIT i forget you might have mentioned THAT i 2394 02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:12,239 might have missed. It but this is A is this 2395 02:00:12,399 --> 02:00:14,479 a paid game or free to? Play it's it's. 2396 02:00:14,479 --> 02:00:18,359 Speaker 3: Forty bucks thirty nine ninety, nine but it is on 2397 02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:22,000 Game pass AND i think it's on PlayStation, plus uh 2398 02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:24,119 like essential essentials. 2399 02:00:24,119 --> 02:00:26,479 Speaker 4: Here, yeah so it's a thing that like it's paid 2400 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:27,840 in some. Way it is paid in some. 2401 02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:29,479 Speaker 3: WAY i think most people are probably going to be 2402 02:00:29,479 --> 02:00:30,279 playing it through Game. 2403 02:00:30,399 --> 02:00:34,640 Speaker 2: PASS i, asked just because that would like shape how 2404 02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:37,199 progression works for, sure for, Sure LIKE i was, like 2405 02:00:37,239 --> 02:00:39,239 DO i have to paid on lock or like or 2406 02:00:39,359 --> 02:00:41,239 DO i have the option of paying to speed up 2407 02:00:41,319 --> 02:00:41,960 progression or. 2408 02:00:42,039 --> 02:00:43,760 Speaker 4: Is it is it further? Monetized? 2409 02:00:44,079 --> 02:00:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah there you can buy cosmetic like a cosmetic battle, 2410 02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:49,840 pass but you can't MONETIZE i don't think you can 2411 02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:52,720 buy your way through upgrades or, anything which IS i 2412 02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:54,920 appreciate THOUGH i kind of WISH i could pay the 2413 02:00:55,039 --> 02:00:57,000 skip pets all the stuff BECAUSE i just want To. 2414 02:00:57,560 --> 02:00:58,359 Speaker 4: Charles given them. 2415 02:00:58,399 --> 02:01:03,159 Speaker 3: Ideas but, yeah and then the other thing is separate from, 2416 02:01:03,319 --> 02:01:05,920 this the. Requisitions that's what that main thing is. Called 2417 02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:09,439 we're unlocking class abilities and weapons and. Stuff there's the 2418 02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:13,199 research lab where you're getting perks and the perk systems 2419 02:01:13,239 --> 02:01:15,359 cool where it's like you unlock it at, first and 2420 02:01:15,439 --> 02:01:17,600 let's say it's like you heal, faster you can then 2421 02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:20,279 upgrade it so you heal even, faster and then you 2422 02:01:20,279 --> 02:01:23,039 can upgrade it to a resonant tier where you and 2423 02:01:23,279 --> 02:01:25,680 all your allies within a certain radius get. It so 2424 02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,800 you could theoretically do a bunch of cool builds where 2425 02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:30,760 people are picking different like resonant level, perks and if 2426 02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,239 you're staying, together you're getting all these like cool cool, 2427 02:01:33,279 --> 02:01:39,520 abilities but you only unlock them like one every level 2428 02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:41,920 that you get the new option to buy. Again i'm 2429 02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:44,079 like level, ten like five hours in AND i don't 2430 02:01:44,079 --> 02:01:45,680 know if it's going to speed up or slow down at, 2431 02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,279 all but like you get up to like level forty 2432 02:01:48,279 --> 02:01:53,439 to fifty when you're unlocking new stuff still and when 2433 02:01:53,439 --> 02:01:56,479 you're spending your currency on that. Page it does not 2434 02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,960 count towards the page where all the cosmetics and stuf, 2435 02:02:00,199 --> 02:02:02,560 are but it's the same. Currency so it's a thing 2436 02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:05,199 of LIKE i have five, POINTS i can unlock the healing, 2437 02:02:05,279 --> 02:02:08,199 faster but it won't progress me towards getting my later 2438 02:02:08,319 --> 02:02:10,920 class features and. Stuff so that that's like my main 2439 02:02:11,079 --> 02:02:13,520 issue is, that like there's a version of this where 2440 02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,720 you unlock three perks a, level you start with all 2441 02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:19,119 your crisis kit, stuff and the game feels like HOW 2442 02:02:19,159 --> 02:02:21,680 i think they want it to, feel and then we 2443 02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:24,680 can evaluate how the game is and you know whether 2444 02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:27,600 we like it or. Not and right Now i'm kind 2445 02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:29,119 of in this weird thing WHERE i feel Like i'm 2446 02:02:29,199 --> 02:02:32,199 just waiting to get to the, game which doesn't feel. 2447 02:02:32,279 --> 02:02:34,880 Speaker 4: Good and yeah it. 2448 02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:39,640 Speaker 3: Is it's, yeah, yeah it's three player, online. 2449 02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:41,520 Speaker 2: But you can't play by. 2450 02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:43,479 Speaker 4: Yourself you can play by. 2451 02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:45,720 Speaker 3: YOURSELF i would not recommend. 2452 02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:46,600 Speaker 4: It it's a n. 2453 02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:50,479 Speaker 2: Like on a scale of one to Night, rain how 2454 02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:53,239 ill advised is playing? Alone it's like it's. 2455 02:02:53,439 --> 02:02:57,199 Speaker 3: Possible there's just. Things so so the, kits you have 2456 02:02:57,279 --> 02:02:59,279 your basic, THINGS i can do alternate. Stuff, right so 2457 02:02:59,319 --> 02:03:01,319 you have your, WATER i can put up, fires BUT 2458 02:03:01,399 --> 02:03:04,479 i can also give enemies the wet. Condition the jump 2459 02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:09,159 kit has this like electric baton. Thing if you hit 2460 02:03:09,239 --> 02:03:11,119 someone with the wet, condition it does more damage because 2461 02:03:11,159 --> 02:03:13,399 you're shocking someone that's. Wet so you can do combos 2462 02:03:13,399 --> 02:03:15,840 and stuff like. That but they can also do things, 2463 02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:20,119 where for, example there's fires you might need to put. 2464 02:03:20,119 --> 02:03:22,279 Out if you or yourself are on, fire it's nice 2465 02:03:22,319 --> 02:03:24,520 to have the splash cannon because then you can wash 2466 02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:27,199 yourself off or you can wash your allies. Off there's 2467 02:03:27,319 --> 02:03:30,039 broken fuses and stuff where it's nice to have the 2468 02:03:30,079 --> 02:03:31,760 jump kit because you can use your electric thing to do. 2469 02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:33,479 It and then it's nice to have the fixed kit 2470 02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:34,800 where you have like a big wrench where you can 2471 02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,199 fix broken. Stuff so you don't have the other. Stuff 2472 02:03:39,079 --> 02:03:41,079 those only. Three, luckily if you don't have one of 2473 02:03:41,079 --> 02:03:44,399 the other two, kits you just have to manually figure it. 2474 02:03:44,479 --> 02:03:48,239 Out so the fixing and the electrical stuff you do 2475 02:03:48,479 --> 02:03:51,079 through this like it's kind of Like Hell divers, esque 2476 02:03:51,079 --> 02:03:53,680 where like you're typing in the dpad stuff code to 2477 02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,159 put in the. Code it's just like, that except it's 2478 02:03:56,239 --> 02:03:58,199 just the left and right bumpers and so you're just 2479 02:03:58,279 --> 02:03:59,800 doing right, right, left, right, left let left right right 2480 02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:02,000 left left right right, right and then that like completes the. 2481 02:04:02,079 --> 02:04:04,359 Thing you can do that on your own if you 2482 02:04:04,359 --> 02:04:06,199 don't have the. Kit, also it's nice if someone has 2483 02:04:06,239 --> 02:04:07,560 the fixed kit but they're across the map and you 2484 02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:08,680 want to fix the thing and you don't want it 2485 02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:10,279 To you just don't want to wait for them to come. 2486 02:04:10,359 --> 02:04:12,720 Back the thing that makes it hard is if you're 2487 02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:15,560 playing single, player all of that stuff is still available to. 2488 02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:18,319 You it just is faster because one you're doing it by, 2489 02:04:18,359 --> 02:04:21,680 yourself and two it's all this like timed minigame. Thing 2490 02:04:22,359 --> 02:04:25,479 so there's one mode where you're putting up these emitters 2491 02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:27,640 to clear out this gunk from a, place and you're 2492 02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:31,000 attaching all these special plates to a, thing and there's 2493 02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:33,760 like six plates and they all need to be. Fixed 2494 02:04:34,039 --> 02:04:36,039 and if you're one guy that has the fixer, tool 2495 02:04:36,199 --> 02:04:38,920 it'll take you all of ten fifteen seconds because you're 2496 02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:41,640 going around hitting. It maybe you've got another person that 2497 02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:43,399 wants to do the fixing, thing and it goes a 2498 02:04:43,439 --> 02:04:45,439 little bit faster as well in handling. Them if you're 2499 02:04:45,479 --> 02:04:47,680 doing single, player you have to go one by one 2500 02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:50,560 right left, right, right left, right, left, left, left, right left, left, left, right, right, right, 2501 02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:52,920 right right, right and then go to the next one right, left, right, left, left, 2502 02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:57,359 left left, Left and it's just not fun to do. 2503 02:04:57,560 --> 02:05:01,000 Speaker 2: That so it's just not it's not super well designed 2504 02:05:01,039 --> 02:05:02,439 to play by, yourself even though. 2505 02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:05,279 Speaker 3: Yeah it's just it's just not. Interesting and then there's 2506 02:05:05,319 --> 02:05:10,119 a there was a boss. Fight there's there's an, Enemy Sticky. 2507 02:05:10,239 --> 02:05:12,039 Ricky if you get to the end of paper, chase 2508 02:05:12,079 --> 02:05:13,760 it's just a giant maheemoth made of sticky. 2509 02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:14,640 Speaker 4: Notes very. 2510 02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:20,359 Speaker 3: Funny it's frustrating because you gotta use one machine to 2511 02:05:20,399 --> 02:05:21,920 make him. Wet you gotta use then other schine to do. 2512 02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:24,600 Electrically they're on different sides of the. Map different parts 2513 02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:26,479 of them can break, down so you gotta repair this 2514 02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:28,439 thing and this thing and then press it to turn this, 2515 02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:30,359 on and then press to turn this. On at the same, 2516 02:05:30,479 --> 02:05:33,439 time infinite waves of enemies are, spawning and if you're 2517 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:36,079 one guy dealing with all the enemies and trying to 2518 02:05:36,119 --> 02:05:37,880 do this and trying to do, that it's not even 2519 02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:40,560 like an unmanageable amount of. Enemies there's just so many 2520 02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:44,319 tasks going. On that was WHY i was supposed to 2521 02:05:44,319 --> 02:05:46,479 be in a meeting yesterday With marcus and some other, 2522 02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:50,159 people AND i was like ten twelve minutes late BECAUSE 2523 02:05:50,199 --> 02:05:51,680 i was just in this boss. FIGHT i was, LIKE 2524 02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,680 i swear it was gonna be done by. Now but 2525 02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:55,720 every TIME i try to do, this another guy shows 2526 02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:56,840 up AND i have to run back AND i. 2527 02:05:56,840 --> 02:05:57,439 Speaker 4: Got to heal and do. 2528 02:05:57,479 --> 02:05:58,880 Speaker 2: Whatever so damn, Sticky. 2529 02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:02,359 Speaker 3: Ricky i'm at a point Where i'm, Like i'm GONNA 2530 02:06:02,399 --> 02:06:03,760 i need to play more of the game BECAUSE i 2531 02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:06,079 want to unlock all the abilities to be able to 2532 02:06:06,439 --> 02:06:08,279 Say i'm playing the game as they want it to. 2533 02:06:08,439 --> 02:06:12,119 Be but in this like modern culture of like so 2534 02:06:12,279 --> 02:06:14,399 many shooters are free to, play so many games are 2535 02:06:14,439 --> 02:06:17,560 free to, play people are going to bounce off of 2536 02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:19,800 a game so, fast especially if it's on game. Pass 2537 02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,359 that's how something you've played For, LIKE i just don't 2538 02:06:22,359 --> 02:06:24,159 think it's a good move to put a bunch of 2539 02:06:24,159 --> 02:06:28,119 stuff behind upgrade. Walls AND i would love to do 2540 02:06:28,319 --> 02:06:30,359 like a bunch of funky, experiments BUT i just don't 2541 02:06:30,399 --> 02:06:32,960 Think i'm gonna put in the hours to get to that, 2542 02:06:33,119 --> 02:06:34,359 point AND i don't think most. 2543 02:06:34,199 --> 02:06:34,840 Speaker 4: People are going to. 2544 02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,880 Speaker 2: Either so for the for those of us that are 2545 02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:40,920 not really into competitive, multiplayer games like, myself BUT i 2546 02:06:41,039 --> 02:06:44,079 also really love control And i'm excited For control. Too 2547 02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:47,720 is there any like narrative stuff in here that's like 2548 02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:51,079 interesting or THAT i should care about that would set 2549 02:06:51,159 --> 02:06:52,520 up the next game in? 2550 02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:55,039 Speaker 1: Anyway, well i'd also say it's not a competitive, shooter 2551 02:06:55,159 --> 02:06:59,039 do you, like, yeah it's a multipla, yeah multiplayer. 2552 02:06:59,079 --> 02:07:03,039 Speaker 2: SHOOTER i, guess like, yeah like, yeah is there anything 2553 02:07:03,119 --> 02:07:05,119 here that it's like that would make me want to 2554 02:07:05,159 --> 02:07:07,560 play it just to see like more stuff like there 2555 02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:08,479 there are. 2556 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:13,640 Speaker 3: Some fun little dialogue moments that people will say out 2557 02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:16,880 in the field or you'll get in the. Menu, uh 2558 02:07:17,439 --> 02:07:19,479 and that's about. It like there's there was a lot 2559 02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:22,479 where someone's, like did you know the director got this 2560 02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,800 job and they didn't have an. Experience, oh it's like a, 2561 02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:28,760 oh just like Referencing, jesse just like quips that kind 2562 02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:31,479 of reference, stuff or there's little nods to the. Lore 2563 02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:34,600 but like unless you're taking, note like unless you're really paying, 2564 02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:37,199 attention you're not going to internalize a lot of. It and, 2565 02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:38,159 yeah so. 2566 02:07:38,479 --> 02:07:43,239 Speaker 4: Nothing important Basically overwatch pre match dialogue based basically, yeah, yeah. 2567 02:07:43,319 --> 02:07:46,279 Speaker 1: Yeah are there not like environmental logs or anything you 2568 02:07:46,319 --> 02:07:49,840 can find in the world, no like audio logues or 2569 02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:51,000 OR i don't. 2570 02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:54,079 Speaker 3: Think so there's also like just on the note of 2571 02:07:54,159 --> 02:07:55,680 the environment And i'll just say this one thing and 2572 02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:58,079 to be. Done there's a lot of stuff where there's 2573 02:07:58,119 --> 02:08:00,680 ways to do it that isn't immediately, clear and IT'S 2574 02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:03,359 i think the intention is like someone will figure it 2575 02:08:03,399 --> 02:08:05,039 out and you'll feel really cool and then they'll tell 2576 02:08:05,039 --> 02:08:06,800 their friends about. It but if you're just playing, it 2577 02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:08,760 it's not going to click for. You one of those 2578 02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:13,279 things is there's like open binders and if you pick them, 2579 02:08:13,359 --> 02:08:16,079 up those are like the currency in the. Game AND 2580 02:08:16,199 --> 02:08:18,039 i knew that because they told me that during the, 2581 02:08:18,159 --> 02:08:21,079 preview BUT i don't think it was ever explained to 2582 02:08:21,159 --> 02:08:22,840 me in the game THAT i should be looking for 2583 02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:25,479 those and picking those up because that's like the currency 2584 02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:30,079 is just like documents and paperwork. Basically so you could 2585 02:08:30,119 --> 02:08:32,439 look around and be, LIKE i keep picking up these lower, 2586 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:36,159 notes and, Ah i'm getting is more. Currency there's another 2587 02:08:36,239 --> 02:08:38,800 thing of like one of the modes is called ground, 2588 02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:41,800 control and you're picking up there's these like gross little 2589 02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:43,560 pods on the. Wall if you shoot, them you'll get 2590 02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:46,840 these glowing pearls out of. Them the pearls are radioactive 2591 02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:49,600 and if you hold them for five, seconds it'll max 2592 02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:51,880 out your radioactive met or just start taking damage off 2593 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:55,439 to go to a healing. Station, apparently AFTER i died from, 2594 02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:58,199 RADIOACTIVITY i got a hint that popped up and it's, like, 2595 02:08:58,199 --> 02:08:59,640 well if you stand right next to one of the 2596 02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:04,159 pods when they, pop you get leech. Slimed it's to be, 2597 02:09:04,279 --> 02:09:06,880 CLEAR i didn't say. This it said you glowed to. 2598 02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:10,399 Death next, time use a healing shower or leech slime 2599 02:09:10,520 --> 02:09:10,960 to prevent. 2600 02:09:11,079 --> 02:09:13,039 Speaker 2: That AND i was, like what the heck is leech? 2601 02:09:13,159 --> 02:09:15,800 Speaker 3: Slime and if you stand near one of the, Pods 2602 02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:18,000 and to be, clear this is like we've all played video. 2603 02:09:18,119 --> 02:09:21,920 Games there's a little bulbous pod and if you pop, 2604 02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:25,520 it it explodes and splatters. Everywhere every instinct in me is, 2605 02:09:25,640 --> 02:09:28,840 like don't be near that, way you're gonna get. Poisoned, 2606 02:09:29,279 --> 02:09:31,760 apparently if you get slimed and it covers your, camera 2607 02:09:32,039 --> 02:09:34,399 then you're like immune to radiation for a little. Bit 2608 02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:36,880 so that to me feels like a the second you 2609 02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:39,359 start the, game it should tell, you, hey stand near 2610 02:09:39,399 --> 02:09:41,479 these things and get slime so you don't radiate yourself 2611 02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:43,960 to death and instead it's like a weird trial and, 2612 02:09:44,159 --> 02:09:46,399 Error like it's just. 2613 02:09:46,439 --> 02:09:48,720 Speaker 4: Not, fun or even the idea that you could have 2614 02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:51,439 some sort of like fun in universe way of maybe 2615 02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:54,119 you stumble upon a training video that you pick up 2616 02:09:54,119 --> 02:09:55,560 in the field and you take it back and you 2617 02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:59,000 watch and it's like how to not get radioactivity from 2618 02:09:59,039 --> 02:10:02,319 those Weird, yeah stuff like that'd be. Great, yeah or 2619 02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:05,239 especially if it was remedy that's, free you can take. 2620 02:10:05,119 --> 02:10:08,279 Speaker 3: That especially if it was more clear that it was 2621 02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:11,279 that you're doing it, wrong you know where like when 2622 02:10:11,319 --> 02:10:13,119 it just feels a little bit, Bad i'm, LIKE i 2623 02:10:13,159 --> 02:10:14,960 GUESS i just got to keep healing myself all the. 2624 02:10:15,039 --> 02:10:17,199 Time but if there was something like, that whereas like 2625 02:10:17,239 --> 02:10:19,600 a clear surely there's a better way to do, this 2626 02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:21,640 and then there was the unlockable stuff like, THAT i 2627 02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:22,319 think that'd be really. 2628 02:10:22,399 --> 02:10:27,720 Speaker 4: Cool. YEAH i have one quick, Question, so like control 2629 02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:31,840 is all about THE scp style nature of these things 2630 02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:34,439 and kind of like the incomprehensibility of. 2631 02:10:34,479 --> 02:10:38,399 Speaker 1: A lot of the way that these like entities. 2632 02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:41,680 Speaker 4: Act do you get a lot of that sort of 2633 02:10:42,039 --> 02:10:44,239 horror in this because the way you were describing that 2634 02:10:44,279 --> 02:10:48,039 boss fight earlier was sticky. Ricky it sounded like a boss. 2635 02:10:48,119 --> 02:10:50,399 Fight it sounded like a video game boss. Fight AND 2636 02:10:50,479 --> 02:10:54,119 i don't know if the strange horror of like the 2637 02:10:54,279 --> 02:10:58,000 fridge or the ash tray maze would translate Over have 2638 02:10:58,079 --> 02:10:59,760 you had those moments in here or as it felt 2639 02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:01,319 more like you're kind of Playing left For. 2640 02:11:01,399 --> 02:11:04,239 Speaker 3: Dead it's a lot more left for. DEAD i WHEN 2641 02:11:04,279 --> 02:11:07,319 i talk to them about the game In, finland they were, saying, 2642 02:11:07,439 --> 02:11:13,279 like If control is eighty percent surrealist horror and twenty 2643 02:11:13,359 --> 02:11:16,479 percent surrealist, comedy this is kind of flipped where it's 2644 02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:18,800 like they're leaning a lot more into how it's goofy 2645 02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:21,880 than how it's like, serious and a lot of characters 2646 02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:25,560 are treating it, seriously but there's not a lot of 2647 02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:28,479 It's it doesn't definitely hasn't tried to scare me very, often, 2648 02:11:29,399 --> 02:11:33,000 gotcha and these that there's only five there's only five, 2649 02:11:33,119 --> 02:11:35,560 jobs so the ideas you're playing these same things over 2650 02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:38,600 and over. Again So i've played all the jobs multiple 2651 02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:40,640 times AND i don't have all this stuff unlocked, yet 2652 02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:43,119 but they want you to just like craft your build 2653 02:11:43,279 --> 02:11:45,840 nd over and over. Again so if they were trying 2654 02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:47,600 to surprise me like, that you get old very, quickly 2655 02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:49,039 SO i kind of understand why they haven't done. 2656 02:11:49,079 --> 02:11:51,840 Speaker 4: It but, yeah that's a. 2657 02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:54,760 Speaker 1: BUMMER i been really looking forward to that. 2658 02:11:54,840 --> 02:11:57,960 Speaker 3: ONE i might still check out still play, it, yeah 2659 02:11:58,399 --> 02:12:00,840 still still maybe you'll like it Way, YEAH I i like. 2660 02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:03,600 Speaker 1: It, YEAH i definitely want to make some time to 2661 02:12:03,680 --> 02:12:07,000 play that in the coming. Weeks BUT i KNOW i 2662 02:12:07,079 --> 02:12:09,520 mentioned at the top we were gonna check Out Fantasy 2663 02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:11,640 life And lost And. RANDOM i think we're going to 2664 02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:13,159 save those for next week just for the sake of. 2665 02:12:13,279 --> 02:12:17,720 Time we're now over two hours and we got things 2666 02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:20,960 we got to get, done but real. QUICK i did 2667 02:12:21,039 --> 02:12:23,800 just want to, Say, eric thank you so much for joining. 2668 02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:27,079 Us do you want to take a second and let 2669 02:12:27,079 --> 02:12:29,840 people know what you're working on where they can find 2670 02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:30,720 you all that? 2671 02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:33,479 Speaker 4: Stuff, yeah, well well thank you for having me. On 2672 02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:36,520 as we said the, TOP i mostly do stuff For 2673 02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:40,520 acts of The bloogout. Nowadays that's my INDEPENDENT rpg PODCAST 2674 02:12:40,600 --> 02:12:42,800 i co host With Kat bailey And Nattia, oxford where 2675 02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:45,960 we cover the wide wide world of. RPGs we just 2676 02:12:46,079 --> 02:12:48,359 did our own episode On Final fantasy And Magic The 2677 02:12:48,399 --> 02:12:50,880 gathering With chip And. Bought that was really. Good coming 2678 02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:53,279 up later this, month we'll be doing a charity stream 2679 02:12:53,560 --> 02:12:57,880 for Trans. Lifeline our fourth annual charity stream will be 2680 02:12:58,199 --> 02:13:01,119 On june twenty eighth and. Ninth we'll be doing a 2681 02:13:01,159 --> 02:13:03,399 ton of fun stuff for, that including some magic. Stuff 2682 02:13:03,439 --> 02:13:06,840 we'll have, giveaways we'll have codes to hand, Out we'll 2683 02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:09,680 have all kinds of. PRIZES i will drink a gonster 2684 02:13:10,159 --> 02:13:15,880 if we h. Over. SO a conster is something that 2685 02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:18,279 my brother in law told me about AND i saw 2686 02:13:18,359 --> 02:13:20,560 it AND i was, LIKE i have to do, this 2687 02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:23,279 but only under a circumstance in WHICH i have like 2688 02:13:23,359 --> 02:13:25,920 a plausible excuse to try, this which is, like, oh 2689 02:13:26,119 --> 02:13:28,920 it's a charity. INCENTIVE i have to do it because 2690 02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:32,239 OTHERWISE i have to admit THAT i purely crave my own. 2691 02:13:32,279 --> 02:13:37,159 DESTRUCTION a gonster is fifty Percent, guinness like like dark 2692 02:13:37,279 --> 02:13:42,479 Stout guinness, yea and fifty percent original Green monster energy oh. 2693 02:13:42,600 --> 02:13:45,760 My and it kind of looks like if you put 2694 02:13:46,159 --> 02:13:48,439 you know When Billie eilish had like the black and green, 2695 02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:51,760 hair yes with kind of staggered. Highlights, yeah it looks 2696 02:13:51,800 --> 02:13:53,600 like if you put that in a, cup because it 2697 02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:58,680 kind of. Separates and the worst part is that The 2698 02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:02,520 guinness seems to separate on top and the monster goes 2699 02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:05,319 to the, bottom WHICH i think in that, scenario IF 2700 02:14:05,319 --> 02:14:07,039 i had to drink one and then the, Other i'd 2701 02:14:07,079 --> 02:14:11,239 want to Go Monster guinness instead Of Guinness. Monster if 2702 02:14:11,319 --> 02:14:14,560 we reach the point where we will have raised fifty 2703 02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:19,000 thousand total lifetime raised for Trans, LIFELINE i will drink The, 2704 02:14:19,119 --> 02:14:25,439 gonster an Entire gonster live on, stream and then whatever happens. 2705 02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:31,439 Happens we'll see where it goes from. There but, yeah 2706 02:14:31,479 --> 02:14:33,680 it's a great charity stream we do every. Year really 2707 02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:35,119 excited to put that. Together we have a lot of 2708 02:14:35,119 --> 02:14:38,000 great folks who are lining up to do some segments 2709 02:14:38,239 --> 02:14:39,960 and have some fun on, there so it'll be a good. Time, 2710 02:14:40,359 --> 02:14:43,640 otherwise LIKE i, Said i'm on NORM, dfm which is 2711 02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:46,720 a retrospective game club PODCAST i do With Kennis. Sheppard 2712 02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:50,800 we're currently Doing Near. Automata we just restarted that season 2713 02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:53,039 and have been getting back into. IT i think we're 2714 02:14:53,039 --> 02:14:55,079 at the ending Of ROUTE a right, now which is really. 2715 02:14:55,119 --> 02:14:58,840 Exciting And, otherwise you can find me on various different websites. 2716 02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:00,760 FREELANCING i do a lot of STUFF i GN i 2717 02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:02,800 do news over. There i've been on the Night rain 2718 02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:05,119 beat for, them uh and THEN i do some stuff 2719 02:15:05,159 --> 02:15:08,880 FOR Pc. Gamer i've done stuff for Games. Radar, uh 2720 02:15:09,439 --> 02:15:11,479 nothing for gaming for, me. Y'all don't Come. Colin you 2721 02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:15,359 know so you put me? Podcast yeah, yeah, yeah what is? 2722 02:15:15,479 --> 02:15:17,479 This well my word's not good enough for, You LIKE 2723 02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:22,000 i gotta, Change but, yeah, NO i. DO i do 2724 02:15:22,079 --> 02:15:24,880 a lot of stuff. Everywhere that's kind of what you 2725 02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:27,199 got to do in this. Industry so uh BUT i 2726 02:15:27,279 --> 02:15:28,880 love all the STUFF i. Do so thank you for 2727 02:15:29,079 --> 02:15:30,960 for having me, On, like, yeah thanks for coming. 2728 02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:32,720 Speaker 3: On it was so great to podcast with you before 2729 02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:34,479 your untimely gonster based. 2730 02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:38,600 Speaker 4: Death, look IF i go out drinking, gonster you can 2731 02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:40,520 put it on my. TOMBSTONE i went down the WAY i, 2732 02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:43,039 lived you. Know that's that's HOW i always wanted to. 2733 02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:49,920 Speaker 1: Go that's, uncomfortably uncomfortably but never forgotten in severe. Distress, 2734 02:15:50,159 --> 02:15:52,359 yeah that was, Good. MARCUS i just wanted to say 2735 02:15:52,359 --> 02:15:56,039 you deserved a laugh for. That speaking of that funny, 2736 02:15:56,039 --> 02:15:58,800 Guy Marcus, stewart you can follow him on social media 2737 02:15:59,319 --> 02:16:02,840 At Marcus stewart at. 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Time thank you for your, support 2748 02:16:43,239 --> 02:16:46,600 and we'll see you next. Week all, right bye. Everybody 2749 02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:09,120 when you