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Speaker 2: Nope, it didn't go anywhere. He tried to challenge a

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few anomalies that were in there. It was a close.

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all the claims were eventually dismissed in all three counties

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where he where his district spans were in Halifax, in Northampton.

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a previous commissioner in the town of Gaston.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to remember too, because Ray along with

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Mike Woodard of Durham, I think this may have been Wooded.

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the school board chairman, Coach Joe White and he told

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me years ago, this was twenty years ago, he said,

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large Democrat and like he could and this was twenty

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years ago, he could read the writing on the wall,

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like you're not going to win any more of these

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races in the primaries. And I know Woodard in Durham,

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white male, sort of blue dog type of Democrat as well.

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Speaker 3: Is that do you have any idea what.

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Speaker 2: The is also one that tended to come in or

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help co sponsor legislation along with Republicans that made him

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Speaker 1: Speaking of really successful politicians, Beto came to the Queen

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City the other day. Super exciting, right, the man who

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has lost multiple races in grand fashion. He came to

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North Carolina Democrat Party Chair Anderson Clayton, and she touted

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this somebody as Beto, as somebody who knows good politics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah don't. I don't even know what that means to

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know good politics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. She spends a little bit of time ramping up

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the crowd introducing him, talking about all the different things

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that were good politics as them, which included boys in

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sports and you know, fighting illegal immigration, deportations and that

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sort of thing, which or honestly what lost them the

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twenty twenty four election. So she ramped up the crowd.

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to actually go back and look. But it was at

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a pub in Charlotte, and they invited him in there

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to it was a rally the troops kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Did he get on the bar?

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Speaker 2: I had some interesting comments in there.

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Speaker 3: Did he stand up on the bar because that was

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Speaker 2: A while, No, nor nor did he have his skateboards,

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so we didn't see that. But he got up there

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and he talked about the trouble that the country was

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in and that Democrats have done what they've done in

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the past likely quote produced that trouble, he actually said,

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having to protest every month against Trump policies, he says,

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because we love our country, we want to do everything

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we can to save it, because we understand that what

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we have done so far has failed to bt the

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trouble we're in right now. And look, if we're honest,

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been doing probably produced this trouble in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Right, and that would be him, I guess, which I

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's been making the rounds in different states

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talking about you know, Trump's immigration policies, about the one

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big bill, that sort of thing, same thing as Gavin

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Newsom has been doing, you know, jumping into Ohio and

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South Carolina and places like that. And you know, ourk

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tried to run for president, you know when Biden ran

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in twenty twenty, and that really didn't go over so well. No,

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he ended up being one of the first to pull out.

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friends and that that circle. After his third wipeout, he

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of Texas, and he lost that one in epic fashion.

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Speaker 3: He lost to Ted Cruz originally points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty big.

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Speaker 3: So anytime this guy tries to run it all.

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Speaker 2: His third devastating loss, right, so.

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Speaker 1: He knows good politics. He also, I thought this was

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a real sure way to win hearts and minds in

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North care Carolina. He alluded to your right, He alluded

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to white supremacy and racism by describing states where Republicans

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hold majorities as former states of the Confederacy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's that's a that's.

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Speaker 1: A winning message in a state that was controlled by

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Democrats for a century and a half. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He also trashed Ice and Sheriff's department police that were

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working with Ice as aiding a betting Ice and the

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officers were contributing to quote, the destruction of our constitution

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in due process. So you know, he left no stone

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unturned there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's I wonder because you know, Anderson

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Clayton's all about the rural tour and listening to the

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rural folks. I wonder if she'll bring Betto out to

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the rural And by the way, his real name is

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Robert Francis O'Rourke, that's his real name, but claims that

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everybody called him Betto for some reason, even though he's

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not Hispanic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is the guy that they brought to Charlotte.

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I guess it plays in Charlotte. He plays probably better

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Speaker 3: Maybe.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think this guy is I don't

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think this is the guy that's going to lead you

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Speaker 2: There's video of the entire event, which I have linked

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in my substack story, so if folks want to go

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and watch the whole thing, including the Democratic Party chair

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screaming into a microphone even though she had a microphone,

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it was it was enlightening. Turn turn your sound down

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a little. It was loud, yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: They were And there was cussing, right, So there was cursing,

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because we know that's how you fight nowadays against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I believe there's one or two salty pieces of language

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in there, but it wasn't overwhelming overwhelmingly so right, you know,

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but he knows good politics, and he encouraged everyone there

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that was hot and sweating in the room to have

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a drink, but drink responsibly, you know, mister bw I

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car wreck from nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but you know.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't well on the path.

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Speaker 1: No. So in case you are looking for a reason

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to gouge your eyeballs out, you can see that video.

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It's at AP Dylan substack. It's called more to the

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and Charlotte is the title.

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Speaker 3: AP Always enjoy it. Thanks so much for making time

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Speaker 2: Absolutely peak, take care you too.

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you could file this under knowing good politics. As Anderson Clayton,

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the North Carolina Democratic part party chair, said of Beto

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O'Rourke that he knows good politics, and she would know

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someone else who.

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Speaker 3: Knows good politics, I guess the.

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Speaker 1: North Carolina Democrat Party adopted multiple anti Israel resolutions. This

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is the state party the North Carolina Democrat Party at

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its meeting of its Executive committee. This meeting took place

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on June twenty eighth, and all six of the resolutions

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were apparently adopted. One calling for an embargo on military

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aid and weapons transfers to Israel. Another was called a

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Resolution for Democratic Unity, another was support for Rights of

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Israelis and Palestinians. Another was a resolution in support of

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Palestinian civilians and human rights groups. Another resolution for democratic

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elections with full suffrage in Israel, and resolution calling for

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new elections in Palestinian territories. In a letter from CEO's

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from multiple Jewish groups, they urged the party to reconsider.

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the Jewish Federation of Greater Raleigh, and Jewish for Good,

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the names of the CEOs that signed on. They wrote

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quote by endorsing resolutions that accuse Israel of genocide, call

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for an arms embargo against our strongest democratic ally in

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the Middle East, and deny Israel's right to self defense,

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the North Carolina Democratic Party has not only adopted an

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extreme and misleading narrative, but has also furthered a climate

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of hostility towards the Jewish community in our state. In

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addition to the anti Israel resolutions, the state Democrats also

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adopted implicit bias and dismantling racism training in their own party.

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They're doing the work, people, They're doing the work. They

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also established a People's Primary policy, which would ban billionaires

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and corporations from buying or unduly influencing Democrat primaries unless

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your name is George Soros. The North Carolina Democrat Party

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also resolved to place term limits on DNC members and

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to bring twenty twenty eight Democratic presidential candidates to North

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Carolina to try to build early momentum, and that, Okay, yes,

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you should try to do that. You definitely should try

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to have your presidential nominees come to a swing state.

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So okay, I fully understand that one Jews in the

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Democrat Party were very unhappy, including the North Carolina Democrat

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parties Democratic Majority for Israel or the DMFI, which objected

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to the embargo resolution. According to WFAE, Former North Carolina

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Democrat Congresswoman Kathy Manning, who is the chair for the DFMI,

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said in a statement that Jewish Democrats in the state

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have tried to unify and collaborate with Democrat party leaders,

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but said the state party chair Anderson Clayton and First

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vice chair Jonah Garson quote, have continued to tolerate extreme

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anti Israel rhetoric and anti semitism from within the party.

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Speaker 3: Well it's just a big tent. Come on.

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If I am going to say that somebody knows good politics,

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first off, I wouldn't say that because I don't really

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know what that means. But if I were to say it,

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you would assume that I too, no good politics, because

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I would be able to identify somebody else who knows

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good politics, because I obviously know good politics too, right, Okay,

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So I'm curious, is it good politics? Is it knowing

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good politics? To abstain from voting on resolutions on anti

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Israel resolutions at the North Carolina Democrat Party meeting of

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the Executive Committee, because that's what the chair of the party,

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the state party, Anderson Clayton, who says y'all and curses

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a lot, and that's her plan to win back rural

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voters or to not lose as many as they've been losing.

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When she brought Beto O'Rourke to town, she said he

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knows good politics, so ostensibly she too knows good politics, right,

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because she would identify Beto's knowing.

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Speaker 3: Of the good politics.

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Speaker 1: Well, this has caused a bit of a problem inside

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the North Carolina Democrat Party because there are a whole

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bunch of these different coalitions and groups and caucuses cauci

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if you will, that are pro Jewish. They are Jewish,

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they are pro Israel, right, because the Democrat Party has

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got a ton of these caucuses caucai. And that's not

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to say the Republicans don't have their own groups inside

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of the party too, they do. But there is you

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know this letter now that was sent over to the

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Democrat Party from these different Jewish organizations urging them not

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to adopt these resolutions. But they ignored those the letter,

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and according to WFAE Anderson Clayton, the chair of the

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Democrat Party abstained from voting on the embargo resolution. Don't

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know if she voted on the other five Israel resolutions.

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The North Carolina Democrat Parties Jewish caucus was very upset.

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They wrote that they are committed to electing Democrats who

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reflect our values. But then they go on to say

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that while they are not walking away from the party,

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they quote will limit our engagement at the state level

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and focus our energy on organizing, endorsing, and supporting aligned candidates.

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So we're not walking away completely. We're just going to

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focus on the people we can trust, right, So less

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support for the party apparatus, more support focused at individual candidates.

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The resolutions jammed through without debate. Apparently there was. The

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caucus said there was a lack of voting transparency and

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widespread procedural confusion as well well. The North Carolina Republican Party,

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as Republicans are known to do, they seized or they pounced,

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if you will, because that is what they do. According

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to the media, They noted that the North Carolina Democrat

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Party chair Anderson Clayton said in an interview that the

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party's twenty twenty four losses were because the party had

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supported Israel. That's what Clayton apparently said, that because the

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Democrats supported Israel. After October seventh, the massacre of the

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innocent Israelis by hamas a designated terrorist organization that that's

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why they lost in twenty four What's interesting and ap

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Dyllan points this out at her Substack publication that Kamala

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Harris did not pick the one Jewish vice presidential candidate

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that might have actually given her a better chance of winning,

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Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania. Just this past week, CNN's Harry

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Enton also dropped some stats about where the Democrats are

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on this issue. Democrats sympathized more with Israelis by thirteen points,

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but that was back in twenty seventeen. Just eight years later,

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now Democrats sympathized with Palestinians by forty three points. Forty

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three points. That is a massive swing, right, a fifty

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six point swing. And among Democrats under the age of fifty,

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it went from fourteen percent fourteen plus plus fourteen pro

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Israel to now Palestinians plus fifty seven. This is your

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key through college education system.

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Speaker 3: That's what this is.

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Speaker 1: The North Carolina Democrat Party has since removed the materials

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from their Summer Executive Committee meeting from the website.

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Speaker 3: They've taken it offline. I wonder why.

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Speaker 1: Wake County Democrats have also removed an Instagram post that

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applauded the passage of the resolution calling for an embargo

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on arms to Israel. They were touting they had Palestinian

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flags and the watermelon emojis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah like yay.

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Speaker 1: A massive thank you and congratulations to the organizers in

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North Carolina who just made NC Democrats the first state

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party in the country to call for an immediate arms

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embargo on Israel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah us.

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Speaker 1: And then there was another graphic that was posted up

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by thanking the members for voting against Israel on the website.

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This was from the Democrat Party's Arab Caucus, Progressive Caucus,

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Jewish Democrats of NC, NC Association of Teen Democrats, Muslim Caucus,

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Interfaith Caucus, African American Caucus, and the LGBTQ plus Democrats

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of North Carolina. No word yet from Josh Stein, the

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you were not aware, the NAACP held its annual national

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convention in Charlotte the other day. It was like last

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like three or four days or something. And if you

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did not know that, you probably do not have a

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subscription to the Charlotte Observer because they basically turned over

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their entire publication two n DOUBLEACP programming coverage.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, they're free to do that whatever.

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Speaker 1: I just yeah, there wasn't a lot in there that

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there wasn't a lot in there that was earth shattering

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or groundbreaking. I just kind of felt like some of

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it was just rewriting press releases. But there was one

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story by me Garry Ramsey. Democrats talk twenty twenty six

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election strategy at this convention?

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Speaker 3: What is it? Ooh? What's their strategy?

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Speaker 1: Congressional Democrats laid out their strategy for recapturing power in

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Washington at the NAACP National Convention in Charlotte and called

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on black voters to take action to help make it happen. Okay,

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you're you're going to get to the strategy in a

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second here, Okay. Illinois Representative Lauren Underwood, New York Representative

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Evett Clark, Mississippi Representative Benny no Jets Thompson. They addressed

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the convention on a panel entitled quote crisis Point, Defending

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democracy and civil rights in a volatile political climate. I

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wasn't sure if you could amp up the hyperbole to eleven,

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but apparently you can.

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Speaker 3: You can. You just have to have the right equipment

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that goes to eleven. And there you have it.

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Speaker 1: The four day convention at the Charlott Convention Center is

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expected to bring thousands to Uptown for the annual meeting.

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Underwood said her party's message quote has to start with

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the economy. If Democrats want to win back a majority

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in the House and Senate in the upcoming midterms next year,

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she called for specific plans focused on increasing affordable housing,

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access to healthcare, and job training in the era of

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a I affordable housing, healthcare, job training. Okay, so basically

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this is the stuff that you guys have already been

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saying for like twenty years, thirty years or so. I mean,

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like that's not none of that's new. And ironically, you

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keep talking about trying to increase affordable housing, yet housing

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just gets more and more unaffordable, particularly in the cities

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that you guys control.

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Speaker 3: What's going on there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you guys should just like listen to some of

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the areas by for example, Austin, Texas, I think, just

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drove down their housing costs. You know why, you know

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how they build way more homes And that's a Democrat

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run city, if I remember correctly. Austin, Texas Democrats, right,

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but they allowed for more building, and when you allow

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for more building, you have more supply. We have more

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supply to meet the demand. It brings down the cost.

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I don't mean to sound like I'm talking to a

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five year old, but I kind of feel like I'm

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talking a five year olds when it comes to supply

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and demand stuff. This is all very basic econ one

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oh one stuff.

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Speaker 3: She says.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, this is Lauren Underwood from Illinois. We

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will not win just assuming that people don't like Donald Trump,

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who yes, he's right, He's already president. And so if

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you're going to run as like vote for us if

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you hate Trump, like I kind of feel like you.

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Speaker 3: Already got those voters.

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Speaker 1: They're already going to be turning out because they are

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motivated by their animis towards Donald Trump. So yeah, you're

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gonna have to try to craft some winning message for

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people that are not simply motivated because they hate Trump.

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Just like, we can't win just assuming people don't like Trump.

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Despite Underwood's warning, much of the panel then focused on

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criticism of the Trump administration. So there you have it.

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It's I mean, this is what TDS does. Even when

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you know you can't keep doing the same thing, you

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just can't quit it.

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Speaker 3: You know, can't quit you The.

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Speaker 1: Convention panel also said Trump's executive order trying to end

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birthright citizenship is a threat to black Americans. Why well,

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let me read the next sentence here to see how

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you could have come to that kind of a conclusion.

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A federal judge issued a new nationwide block of the order.

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Birthright citizenship, the rule that anyone born in the US

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as an American citizen, was enshrined in the US Constitution

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through the Fourteenth Amendment in the wake of the Civil War.

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Speaker 3: This is from H. Clark.

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Speaker 1: If that Clark from New York. She says, it has

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to do with us. We are at the heart of it,

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and if they can break that, they can break us. Okay, Well,

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that actually doesn't explain why on earth you would think

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that ending birthright citizenship somehow or another affects black Americans.

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You're American. It obviously does not affect you. You being

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black doesn't make any difference. The Fourteenth Amendment was enshrined

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in order to do what to make sure that freed

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slaves were considered Americans, so states didn't try to, like

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the Confederacy, didn't try to, you know, rob them of

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their civil rights and such. That was the whole point

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was to put it in the Constitution and say, yeah,

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they're citizens. You know they if they're born here, they're

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American citizens. I don't understand why this anyway, It's not explained.

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Underwood said attendees should request in person meetings with their

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congressional representatives and show up to town hall meetings and

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other public events. Quote, they'll be so pressed to take

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a picture with you because they know that they can

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take a picture with a black person.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I know, I know. I

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don't know what are you saying?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean that they want black people to

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support them, that Republicans who are running for office would

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like to have black people vote for them.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: They talk to all voters. Why wouldn't they want to

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talk to you? What you are you saying? Something else?

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It's a mystery left unknown due to the coverage from

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The Observer. All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.