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Let's welcome in John Kurtz for the show. John, How

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you living?

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Ben?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, man?

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic? What's been keeping you busy this week?

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Speaker 3: John? What have you been delving into on your podcast?

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Your show? What have you guys been discussing?

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Speaker 5: I think the better question this week is what hasn't

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been keeping me busy? I'm sitting down, I'm writing the

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open for business Big Told newsletter right now, and I'm like,

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you know, there are three or four things that kind

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of buried the actual Big twelve championship game in the

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news cycle this week, which is nuts because that game

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obviously is so consequential BYU's playoff live probably on the line,

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though I do think there is maybe one sliver of

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a scenario where it wouldn't be but Texas Tech playing

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for a playoff by all that's going on. But yet

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this week you had Kiwanie Sataki's flirtation with Penn State

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and how just painstaking I'm sure that was around Provo

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and for BYU fans, and now it turns into i

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think a massive boom for BYU football because they have

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gotten so many resources together and in line to support

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that football program moving forward. You had Joey McGuire signing

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an extension with Texas Tech, so he's not going anywhere.

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You have another set of playoff rankings coming out, where

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again I think BYU is just criminally disrespected, especially compared

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to Notre Dame who is right in front of them,

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and Texas Tech winds up in the fourth spot, which

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would mean that they are in lines essentially for a

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top four seed and a buy in the college football playoffs.

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So it's like all that and then I'm a k

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State guy. So in KSE State world, it was Chris

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climb In deciding to retire and Colin Clin coming in

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as the head coach at k State. So that all

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happened by the time we got to Wednesday yesterday. So

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there's been a lot. There's been a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: So give me a little breakdown on the climbing situation.

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I mean, look like I look at this schedule. I mean,

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he's been there for seven years, right, and he's done

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some fantastic work. I mean, this is a good football

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program that yeahs has lost games, but they've been on

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the cusp of greatness it seems every single year. And

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you know this year they've had a ton of close losses.

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They're right there. Yeah, disappointing losses, but they're a good

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football program.

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Speaker 3: What happened? Why did this happen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it hadn't been a very well kept secret

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for a couple of years around Manhattan that Chris Cleman

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was not a guy who was going to or was

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likely to coach deep into his sixties. He's fifty eight

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years old now as he retires, and so there had

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always been this thought like, he's not probably going to

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coach too terribly much longer. And I think that all

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got hastened by just how crazy the entire environment in

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college sports has become. And Jean Taylor, case State's athletic director,

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referenced that in the press conference yesterday as a reason

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why this is happening. You know, Chris Piman's a guy's

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he's kind of like he's an old school ball coach man.

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He wants to coach football. He doesn't want to fundraise.

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speaking engagements. I'm sure he doesn't want to be working

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around the clock always rerecruiting his roster, like just you know,

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managing the money aspect of this with a GM, like

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all the stuff that goes into it now in college football.

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you know, And I think all that really started to

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wear on him. He had had a couple instances of

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getting dizzy on the sideline over the last couple of

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years too. I don't know if there's a major health

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issue there, but at least, you know, seemingly just like

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some stress related things had been popping up to so

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going into this year, and really when they started one

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and three this year, there were whispers about, like, hey,

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is this going to be it? Like is he gonna

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hang it up after this year? Now, Having said that,

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after the Utah game and the tearful press conference and

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all that, everything I had been hearing behind the scenes

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was that he was pretty re energized and fired up

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and wanting more NIL support and ready to go to

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bat for that. And so it was a shock to

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me when I first found out like Tuesday afternoon that

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this was going to happen. I think one other factor

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that you do have to keep in mind here is

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that Chris Clement has handled this all very selflessly. He

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made this decision really quickly, and because of that, Case

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State was able to turn around and get calling Klin

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lined up ready to go, and that was It was

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a point of stress for Case State fans throughout the

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year because Clent almost got the Oklahoma State job. He

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finished runner up there, he was about to take the

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South Florida job when Case State called. The fear was

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he's going to take a powerful job this offseason and

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you'll miss your opportunity to grab him forever. And Case

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State fans definitely felt that stress. And I kind of

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tend to think Chris Climban in the back of his

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mind had that lodged in there too, like, Hey, if

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I'm already teetering on this, I don't want to be

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the guy that keeps k State from taking a shot

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at the prodigal sun coming home here one of the

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hottest names in the coaching industry. So I think all

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of that probably factored into what happened with Chris climbing there.

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think you've got a really high upside with Klein. I

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think this could be like the State's Kenny Dillingham, would

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be like your best case scenario. But hey, Texas Tech

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fans had almost the exact same scenario play out with

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a guy who was the offensive coordinator at Texas A

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and M once upon a time in Cliff Kingsbury. And

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obviously Colin Klein is coming over from being the offensive

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coordinator at Texas A and M right now, and Kingsbury

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was pretty beadyocre at Texas Tech. So we'll see. There

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is an element of be careful what you wish for

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I think probably in play here, but it's it's taken

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a big swing, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Man, crazy times, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: How how powerful, how strengthened is the Big Twelve with

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some of these moves, do you think or is it?

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Is it weakened by some of these moves that we've

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seen Oklahoma State right there was a there was a

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lot of turnover on Gundy's staff because the donors just

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you know, they wanted more wins, and so he had

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to he had to make some changes. Now, he's out

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after an atrocious season.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, what do you make of the Big twelve?

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Where do we stand as a Big twelve conference?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the the Klonie Sataki piece of it

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was just huge, you know. I mean to me, that's

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the one that matters a lot. And it's it's not

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you know, I'm not somebody that's out there saying like, hey,

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Byu couldn't have found anybody to come in and win games,

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you know, if it was gonna be Jay Hill or

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whoever else, Like I'm there, there were definitely options. It's

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a strong program. There are a lot of resources there.

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But man, Kolonie Sataki is just like the perfect fit.

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I mean, he is a perfect ambassador. He totally embodies,

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I think it what it means to be a BYU Cougar.

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On top of just being clearly an excellent football coach,

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He's got four double digit win seasons and now has

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won twenty two games the last two years and has

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you on the brink of the playoff yet again. So

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the combination of the fact that Sataki is coming back

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with I'm going off of Pete nkos At on Freeze

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report about the ten to fifteen million extra NILB and

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dumped on top of Revshre. I mean, if that's going

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to be the case, and having a roster that is

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that loaded for bear financially like BYU is going to

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be really really competitive, and that's huge. Locking down Joey

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Maguire or not that I ever thought he would leave,

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but locking him down that's another huge thing at Texas

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Tech with the financial resources that they all have committed there.

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think BYU and Texas Tech are really positioned to be

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the powers of the league right now. The fact that

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they have the coaches that they do, with the financial

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support that they do, it's really hard to argue against that.

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And as much as the Big Twelve has been this

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conference of parody, what it really needs to be more

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respected nationally is like big brands that people trust. And

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and for BYU last year too, you know you're starting

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to see them position themselves as that. I think there's

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a lot of upside with Eric Morris at Oklahoma State.

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it's another situation where Gundy leaving and having to go

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hire a coach and Eric Morris, who I think was

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coveted by, you know, perhaps a place like Arkansas. You

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were going to have to have your nil ducks in

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a row to attract a coach like that, to attract

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a good candidate. So I think that probably whipps Oklahoma

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State into shape. I think Colin Klin's going to help

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you that at case State too. He's coming from the

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SEC at Texas A and M, where they spend like

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nobody else, and he has seen what it takes to

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win at the highest level of the SEC and make

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the playoffs. So I think he'll come and demand at

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least in the ballpark of that type of support at

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k State, which Case State probably needs a little kick

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in the rear end on that front right now. So

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I think those are two high upside plays and then

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two I mean just blue blood you know stock that

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you know is going to hit with Colonie Sataki and

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Speaker 2: Top, John Kurt Big twelve Insider here on ESPN the

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Fan talking Big twelve Football College Football playoff as well.

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Let's trans obviously BYU fans feeling slided right now, feel disrespected,

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called Football Playoff Committee just not giving credence to their resume,

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their eye tests versus the U in that Texas Tech game.

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Speaker 3: Where BYU, yeah, you know they didn't. They got beat.

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Speaker 2: Handily, but so has everybody else. You know, everybody else

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has been beaten handily by Texas Tech. Do you think

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anything changes this week in Arlington? Do you think by

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is much more competitive? Can they get the win? How

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do you see this game playing out?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean there's there's so much here, so I think,

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first and foremost, the infuriating part about the playoff discussion

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is that it's not even so much that BYU as

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of right now wouldn't be in the playoffs, sitting just

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one spot outside of that, But it's how little they're

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included in the national discussion when it comes to like

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ESPN and any of the national reporters talking about this,

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so much of the discussion is just about Alabama, Notre

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Dame Miami, and it's like we've literally seen the graphics

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multiple times that just omit BYU from that discussion. And

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before anybody tries to say, well, BYU's basically got a

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playing game this week, well so does Alabama they're playing

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in a conference championship game too. They make the graphic

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and the discussion every time. It's it's insane to me.

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It's the same thing that happened last year, but just

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on a more egregious scale this year because BYU's resume

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is better. It's crazy, man. They have a better strength

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better resume than Notre Dame. I don't think there's any

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denying that. It's just the eye test gets thrown against them.

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and I don't think it's been talked about a lot,

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probably because people don't have faith in this working out.

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And I agree because that means you have to trust

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the committee that clearly cares more about logos than what's

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actually put out there. But if the eye test is

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the one thing holding b YU back, right, they have

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a better resume than Notre Dame. But people look at

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the eye test and they say, hey, Jeremiah loves playing great.

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Notre Dame's smashing people and the one time everybody watched

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BYU this year at Texas Tech. They were not very competitive. Okay, well,

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what if Texas Tech goes out or BYU goes out

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on Saturday and plays like a knockdown, dragout overtime game

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with Texas Tech. I think of the Big twelve Championship

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game a couple of years ago between K State and

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TCU goes to overtime, there's a goal line stand and

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then a game winning field goal. If Tech's on the

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winning edge of that. But BYU shows like, hey, this

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team that you all think is consensed like top four,

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now you think it's worthy of a playoff. By everybody

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has gotten behind Texas Tech on that front. We show

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now that we are actually a good enough team to

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go toe to toe with them. Is that enough to

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then sway the committee to be like, well, we our

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eye test has now changed a bit, and if we're

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going to say all things are pretty equal here, then

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let's give the edge resume wise to BYU.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a ton of faith that that would happen,

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but I at least would raise out of a possibility

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will that happen. I would not predict it. I mean,

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I like everybody else watched the first game. This year,

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just is the defense, you know, I struggle to see

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how BYU is going to consistently move the ball on

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that defense. The other thing that it's you know, I

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mean it, it's been a distracting week, right. I know

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Kolanie's Ataki's not necessarily in the minutia on everything that's happening. Offensively,

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Aaron Roderick is handling a bunch of that, and certainly

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could well Kolani was dealing with whatever he needed to

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with Penn State. But I do think that's something you

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have to factor in at least a little bit. So

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I think the line seems about right. I think BYU

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will be more competitive. I don't think it's going to

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go exactly the same way it did last time, but

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I would probably predict an outcome that's similar to what

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the line is telling you there. I would take Texas

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Tech by ten to seventeen points, probably in a game

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that is moderately competitive, but not probably what you would

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need to get a boost in the rankings.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, So if that happens, and let's say, how far

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does BYU drop. What bowl game do you think they're

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going to do they think Alamo picks them up?

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Speaker 3: Is it a b Y U USC matchup?

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Speaker 2: Do they get relegated over to the Pop Tarch Bowl?

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Maybe a b YU Miami matchup? What's the ideal situation

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if Bwie's not in the College Football playoff?

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Speaker 3: Do you think?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so hard to know what the like how

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the Bulls these days will handle that, because I mean,

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you're right, like the Alamo is obviously the thing that

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makes a lot of sense then being first up in

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the pecking order there, But if you just played in

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it last year, how much a deal is there on

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both sides? I mean, I do think BYU would still

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send a ton of fans. I don't think they would

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have to worry about attendance, which is a lot of

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what I think a bowl game would typically worry about.

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If you're going back to back there, like how many

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fans are actually going to go do that same trip again,

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I think it's a little litle bit different when you

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have such a you know, so many people with the

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LDS Church that are just going to be living there

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and want to go to the game no matter what.

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I almost think, you know, I mean, I hate saying

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it out loud. I mean the season by you's had

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nothing against the Pop Tars Bowl, but that it seems

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kind of disrespectful, you know, to think that that's where

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they could wind up. But if it is a matchup

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against Miami, that would at least be fun, depending on

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how many how many teams are playing, Like not just

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from a hey, Miami's a big brand standpoint, but also

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just from these were two of the teams that were

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really in the center of that playoff debate that kind

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of like, you know, I loved the idea of Vandy

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was trying to set up a game with Utah this week.

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Two teams that are right on the periphery of the

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playoff discussion, I think could be great to see them

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go play. So yeah, I think you're probably onto it

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there as to what the possibilities would really be. At

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least if it were the Alamo, you know, you wouldn't

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have to be playing a conference opponent again, so there

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is that that would be a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: John Kurtz ladies and gentlemen, John, best way to support

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a Monte on the line. Matt, how the heck are you?

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Speaker 4: I've never been better?

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Speaker 6: This is I mean, what transpired this week and where

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we're at today. I think I'm I'm the best I've

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ever been. Guys, We're headed to a Big twelve title game.

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We've walked the Saloni Sataki eyo hooks they rolled last night,

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Like this is you just can't be any better right now.

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Speaker 4: If you're a BO, you can shoot.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's really there's not a lot to complain about now

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where we have a persecution and complex like let's be real,

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like we're I was gonna poke at like the void right. Hey, well,

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but but Kilate's not up for the head coach of

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the Year nationally our Beart Bachmeyer's not up for the

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the Freshman of the Year the Shawnigs Alexander or hey,

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why is b YU outside the college football Playoff at

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number eleven? There's much to complain about, but I'm with you, man,

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lots to be grateful for as well, all as well

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to a certain degree in h Cougar country right now.

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Speaker 6: Well, of those things that you said, we can complain

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about by far and away, the biggest complaint is the

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mockery of the college football Playoff integrity with b U

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being an eleven. It's just it's the more you read

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into all the different angles that could possibly be at

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play here, there is not a single logical reason that

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BOU should not be safely in the field. And I

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think that is the true, the true gripe that BYU

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have right now. I don't want to clin one out,

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but I heard someone on social media making the case,

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the the hired case that is completely unfair that if

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BOU just wins.

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Speaker 4: Then it's all fine.

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Speaker 6: Well, yes, that's true. If feel you wins, they get

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in if we get that. But what we're talking about

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here is having a set criteria that we apply fairly

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across college football.

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Speaker 4: And in particular the power for right.

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Speaker 6: And when you look at some of the things that

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Bou has done so well this year, six wins against

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teams with FBS teams with winning records, for road wins

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against bull eligible teams, do you have a great strength

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to record? Do you have a good strength to schedule?

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then fans can gripe about because of it's truly preposterous.

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Speaker 4: How BOU is positioned right now in the rankings.

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Speaker 2: It does hurt the college football cabal, the oligopoly, the monopoly,

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the good old Boys Club. There's stiff arm and Brigham.

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But why are they stiff arming Brigham? Why if you

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had a Pike Chart of accountability. How would the fractionalize

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the pieces of the pie look from your vantage.

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Speaker 6: Point, I would say it is ninety percent due to

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them not being in the SEC or the Big Ten.

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it's very clear that's the powers that be love the

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power too, the Big ten in the SEC, and there's

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a little to no love given to the ACC and

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the Big twelve in particular the Big Twelve, which I

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think is what is so mad, is that even though

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the ACC is having a horrific year in which you

474
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have a Virginia team that is ranked in the title

475
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,400
game and a seven and five team in the title game,

476
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,599
the ACC does not all a candle to the Big twelve.

477
00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:17,839
But in years past you had Clemson, which is one

478
00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:20,759
of the best programs in college football. For whatever reason,

479
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,000
whatever Clemson did in the past, there's still a little

480
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:25,799
cachet with that that's not big granted to the Big twelve.

481
00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:28,240
And I think I think ten percent of it too.

482
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,839
And maybe it's along the same lines, is that BYU

483
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,480
for whatever reason, amongst the national media.

484
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Speaker 4: And the elite of college football.

485
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 6: They are not viewed as being a member of a

486
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,799
power conference. To me, the national media in particular still

487
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:46,440
looks at BYU.

488
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,599
Speaker 4: As an independent or a Group of five caliber team,

489
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,079
and that is just clearly not true.

490
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 6: Any metric you want to look at would tell you

491
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:58,559
that this team is not only a Power conference team,

492
00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:01,839
they're one of the best better Power conference teams. I'm

493
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:04,599
not saying they belong with an Alabama or a Georgia.

494
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,039
Those teams have been elite for a long time. But

495
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,960
you can't tell me that BYU, especially in the last

496
00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:13,200
five years, have not been better than the upper half

497
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,960
of the Power four.

498
00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: They have a top ten.

499
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 6: Winning percentage since since twenty twenty two.

500
00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:19,799
Speaker 4: They have.

501
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 6: Some great players that wanted to play in the league,

502
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,759
and it's like, anyway you want to slice the dice,

503
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:32,319
it players in the league winning percentage, players that make

504
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:35,759
all conference teams, like that they have everything, and that

505
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,799
they're just not being respected. And I think it is

506
00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:42,559
simply due to the fact that people don't want to

507
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:45,440
acknowledge the Big Twelve as being a good power conference

508
00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:48,920
league and that BYU is one of the best teams

509
00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:50,880
in that power conference league.

510
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's sad, but true. There's there's there's some

511
00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:03,799
issues we got to we got to address, and you know,

512
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,279
it's hard to diagnose exactly why it is the way

513
00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:09,960
that it is. You know, some people are calling for

514
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:12,920
religious bigotry. You know, they're trying to say, hey, there's

515
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:19,480
there's the upper the the institutions of higher learning.

516
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 3: They don't like Brigham anyway, They stiff on him for

517
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,759
a long time. Didn't want them in the good old

518
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:25,160
boys club. I get it.

519
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,599
Speaker 2: I hope that there's enough advocacy out there that will

520
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,960
hopefully rally in ba's favorite We're seeing some of it, obviously,

521
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:41,759
Stool presidente Dave Portnoy, I think we saw earlier today.

522
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: I just put this out.

523
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: There's others kind of coming to the table and advocating

524
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,680
for b yu Will Compton breaking down BoA's unfair college

525
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,480
football playoff scenario. Will we get enough advocacy to sway

526
00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:00,519
the college football playoff that if we lose in a

527
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:03,480
close one that we could inchin that we could get

528
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:05,039
in as an at large BIN.

529
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 6: I don't believe that will happen, because this has been

530
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:13,279
the most contradictory committee and quite frankly, the most mind

531
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,599
boggling committee in terms of their rationale week over week.

532
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,599
Speaker 4: For them to say.

533
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 6: That they are not comparing Miami and Notre Dame because

534
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,359
they are not ranked next to each other, that makes

535
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,880
no sense. That makes absolutely no sense, because we've been

536
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,240
told for years and this is specifically written out in

537
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,680
the in the committee's criteria is that you group teams,

538
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,720
you submit a ballot for the first four and then

539
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:42,039
the next four, and so on and so forth until

540
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:45,359
you fill the full twenty five. So if you're grouping teams,

541
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,559
and we've heard this with Byu Ben, we've heard them

542
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:51,480
say we aren't grouping BYU with with a Notre Dame

543
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:55,119
in an Alabama right now, They're being grouped with Miami.

544
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: And these other teams.

545
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 6: So if they are truly grouping teams, does it matter

546
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,599
that there's one team in between Miami and Notre Dame

547
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,920
when applying the head to head metric. We could spend

548
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,119
the next thirty minutes talking about all the things that

549
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,920
this committee has contradicted. But the one thing that is

550
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,599
certain about this committee is that they are not going

551
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:21,359
to suddenly use rhyme and reason to determine this this

552
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,119
seating of teams, because there is no rhyme or reason

553
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:29,000
and so I think the only way deal he gets

554
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:30,079
in is to win.

555
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: I do think that is unfair. I don't think it's right.

556
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,759
Speaker 6: I think the Big twelve having two teams at eleven

557
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:37,880
and one, they should be safely in.

558
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: But that's not where we're at.

559
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter if it's still president.

560
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 4: Or heck, even President Trump.

561
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,079
Speaker 6: I don't think any president Ben could convince this committee

562
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:51,240
to make sense and have rationale when seating.

563
00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,079
Speaker 4: And I don't expect that to change.

564
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:58,039
Speaker 2: Do you Pavis asking for an executive order to expand

565
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,640
the playoff to sixteen?

566
00:27:59,720 --> 00:27:59,839
Speaker 1: Eight?

567
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 4: You please get that exection of ordered.

568
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:08,599
Speaker 3: Baby man, crazy time.

569
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,759
Speaker 4: A perfect year for sixteen, though, Ben, don't you think?

570
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

571
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we're we're always going to want to expand,

572
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,440
but yeah, sixteen would be helpful this year. I think

573
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000
I think sixteen would be perfect. I mean, what's the

574
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:22,880
perfect number?

575
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: Right? Is sixteen the perfect number? The sweet sixteen of

576
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,079
college football? Is that what we're going with.

577
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: I've kind of like hear me out on this.

578
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:34,319
Speaker 6: I kind of like twenty. And the reason I say

579
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,880
twenty is I like that the top four seeds are

580
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,519
rewarded with a buye. I think there is some mare

581
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,519
to that it is. I don't want to say it's

582
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,200
unfair because they would get a lower seed, but that's

583
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,119
a that's a tall ask. It's it's very hard to

584
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,119
go on a run like Ohio State went on last year,

585
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,359
where you're playing in the opening round and so on

586
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,640
and so forth. So I like twenty to where you

587
00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:00,839
get the top four that buye and then you've got

588
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,799
the round of sixteen first and then and then off

589
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:05,960
you go. And then it kind of feels good too,

590
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,319
because you're saying top twenty. This is the top twenty playoffs,

591
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,279
So I would say twenty. But you have to find

592
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:15,839
a way to cut some games too, because I just

593
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,039
I just have a hard time seeing them getting all

594
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:20,039
those games in in the right amount of time. It's

595
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,920
it's it's hard to it is hard to figure out

596
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,319
what is best. But man, it doesn't feel like what

597
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:28,440
we're doing right now is best because there's there's teams

598
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,480
that are not being judged fairly and accordingly, and I

599
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,440
think that does use a buzzword of the week, and

600
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,519
I think it does do a disservice to college football

601
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,279
that we're not judging these teams fairly and equally.

602
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,559
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

603
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,559
Speaker 2: Everyone's beginning to think that there's corruption in college football still.

604
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:56,240
The cabal, the olygopoly of college athletics is is just corrupt.

605
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,599
It's been uh, it's been bought, it's been paid for.

606
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,279
It's it's not true merit as it should be. That's

607
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:07,079
what sports all about, right, That's what sports all about,

608
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,119
supposed to be merited and won on the football field.

609
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm well said.

610
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 6: And it feels like in this year in particular, more

611
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,839
so than any other college football playoff year. And there's

612
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,440
been some there's been some years where there's been some gripes,

613
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:25,079
like what happened in Florida State was tough.

614
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,079
Speaker 4: You go undefeated and you don't get in.

615
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:31,559
Speaker 6: But this year in particular, it feels really tough because

616
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,240
there's a team like BYU that has, you know, based

617
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:39,119
on merit, I feel like, deserves a chance to be

618
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,039
in this playoff regardless of the outcome this week, and

619
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:46,880
then you have other teams that compare against similar teams

620
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,759
in terms of record, and yet the logic seems the

621
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:53,200
shift based on you know, from my vantage point, we

622
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,480
want to have the blue bloods in the in the

623
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,759
tournament we got to have that gold Dome.

624
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: Baby. We gotta have touchdown Jesus in the same we

625
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,119
got to have the elephant. We gotta have role tied

626
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,599
in there.

627
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,599
Speaker 6: And those teams are not clearly better in terms of

628
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,640
merit from from a b YU And and look even Miami,

629
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,359
Miami's got a fair case against Notre Dame and that

630
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,839
doesn't seem to be happening. So this year, this year

631
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,440
is the one that I think is the most frustrating

632
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,759
and unlic it's the most strong opinions because there's just.

633
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:29,279
Speaker 4: No set criteria.

634
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:33,559
Speaker 6: There's no rhyme or reason, and that's that's that's very frustrating.

635
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: That by a monte, Ladies and gentlemen, Matt, what else

636
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,039
has been maybe keeping you up at night, anything else

637
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:43,359
that you've been kind of pondering on that you you

638
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,960
can pontificate on our airways with us.

639
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,079
Speaker 6: This hasn't been keeping me up at night lately since

640
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,240
Kilani extended. But I was, I was very worried about

641
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000
the future of b U football when it felt like

642
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,519
there was.

643
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:01,519
Speaker 4: A moment that Klan he was going to leave the program,

644
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:02,559
and then.

645
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 6: BYU the Board of Trustees, President Reese ad Brian Santiago

646
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,119
for them to be able to retain him and in

647
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,119
the terms of Brian Santiago, significantly invest in the program.

648
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,599
This is something that I think BYU fans. I know

649
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,880
I felt this way, but I think most BOU fans

650
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
would say, this is a day in a week that

651
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,839
we have dreamed of our entire lives. I was thinking

652
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:29,799
about this earlier today.

653
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:30,119
Speaker 4: Ben.

654
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,039
Speaker 6: I remember vividly and I'll never forget this being in

655
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,079
ri Cycle Stadium as a fan in twenty twelve.

656
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: That was the infamous game where mo Ley scooped.

657
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 6: And scored and BYU had multiple cracks at field goals

658
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,039
late fans running onto the field and they don't and

659
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,319
they can't get it done. And that was that was

660
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:54,599
very That was very early into independence and early into

661
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Utah's timing in the PAC twelve, and you just felt like,

662
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,079
can we compete with the resources, specifically in terms of

663
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:05,519
poaching salaries and investment into the program. And I just

664
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:09,039
remember driving home with friends and family, the long drive

665
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:12,440
back from Rice Cycle Stadium down to Utah County. Is

666
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,319
there ever going to be a day where the church

667
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,839
invests into BYU athletics at the rate that they need

668
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,920
to to compete at the highest level, and it felt

669
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,039
like at the time it felt like no, but you

670
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,799
could help yourself with dream about what it would be

671
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,880
like because we know the dollar base is there, we

672
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,359
know the alumni bases there, everything is there. It just

673
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,799
felt like for so long we were doing it at

674
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:41,279
a disadvantage because the resources were not matching those playing

675
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:45,440
at the highest level. This week, I think we can

676
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,920
now say BYU is invested at the highest level. They

677
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,880
want to win. These are all things we've heard at

678
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,359
the press conference. Significant investments. We want to win at

679
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,359
the highest level. We want to do with the BYUA

680
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:59,720
that is happening. We're in a Big twelve championship, we

681
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:02,759
got two top twenty five ranked teams. And in major

682
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:06,440
sports basketball and football. There's other sports that are are

683
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,360
doing very very well, Boston Country, all the track and

684
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,280
field under coach dil g Taylor, women's soccer, the women

685
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,400
in a.

686
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 4: Nice little run.

687
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 6: Like there's there's so much success and there's so much investment,

688
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:20,639
and now we're finally getting to live out that dream

689
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,079
then of what BYU could do if the investment in

690
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:27,440
the resource backing was there to match the.

691
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: Passion it's all aligned, and.

692
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 6: For a moment there this week it felt like that

693
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,639
might be something away a little.

694
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: Bit, but no, credit to all those.

695
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 6: Individuals who helped retain Kalani and invest into football. This

696
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,800
thing is can continue to rise and it's it's a

697
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:41,440
beautiful thing.

698
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: Man.

699
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a Utah fan, you're kind of you're

700
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,119
kind of ticked off. And you lost three in a row.

701
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,199
Now they had what a thirteen fourteen year head start

702
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,760
on their rival and they hey, they want they got

703
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,760
nine in a row. Credit to them with that PAC

704
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,199
twelve logo that no longer exists. It got destroyed with

705
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,480
their their their their Conference of champions Right, but it's

706
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,360
got to really take off the utes ceen b Yu

707
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,199
catch up so quickly and surpass them so quickly. And

708
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,400
by the way, it's flip season. We may have a

709
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,559
few flip recruits soon.

710
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 4: Hey, that would be fantastic.

711
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,519
Speaker 6: This is already a great signing class. I know there

712
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:26,079
was a little stress there with Ryder Lyons, but he

713
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:27,920
signed on the dotted line. This is one of the

714
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,079
great recruiting classes at big football history. This is why

715
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I feel like with the investment in Kilane in the program,

716
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,119
you're going to continue to see an upward trend. You're

717
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,320
you're getting good talent out of the transfer portal, you

718
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,480
are building great high school recruiting classes, which I think

719
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,400
is key been to maintaining success, which is what Brian

720
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,760
Sanciago told us he wants to do this week. It's

721
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,920
not just about having a one year or a two year,

722
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,320
it's about sustained success. You got to do it the

723
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,719
high school ranks, and then you got to have that

724
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,079
that resources to retain coaches and players, which they're pumping

725
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:05,320
in there. So hey, if a few people slip and

726
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,599
you continue to keep this trend on the tracks, we

727
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,000
could be seeing a lot more of BYU in meaningful

728
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:11,639
games like the one coming up to Saturday.

729
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 3: Score prediction, What do you Got for Me?

730
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,199
Speaker 2: BYU Texas Tech BOH is a twelve and a half

731
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,159
point dog and ESPN Analytics Wally gives him like what

732
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,960
a thirty four to thirty five percent chance of victory.

733
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,559
Speaker 6: I think that if LU has any chance to win

734
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:29,159
this game, there's gonna be there needs to be some

735
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,000
ball control. It needs to be a slower paced game,

736
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,400
which I think would favor BYU.

737
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,559
Speaker 4: Their top of the conference and time of possession.

738
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Speaker 6: I think getting Kialani back, extending him that was a

739
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:42,079
jolt of energy.

740
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 4: Into the program.

741
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 6: I think that there is tremendous motivation, not only from

742
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,800
the loss, but also knowing well, if these these players

743
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,599
and coaches aren't they're not naive to what's happening in

744
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,280
college football. They know how how they're probably going to

745
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,119
get left out if they don't win. That is a

746
00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:01,159
huge motivating factor. I have all the way around from

747
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,960
BYU having a hard time winning this one too. I

748
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,519
had the Coubs winning and I think the score will

749
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:10,679
be twenty four to twenty twenty four twenty. There you go,

750
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,840
twenty four twenty Couves winning their first ever Big twelve championship.

751
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: It's been it's been almost twenty years since we won

752
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,119
a conference championship. Man twenty years nice time was seven.

753
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 6: Nineteen, eighteen, nineteen years crazy And this is the most

754
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,239
important one of them all. Of all the twenty twenty

755
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,920
three previous conference championships, there was nothing on the line

756
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,239
like this.

757
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 4: So this is this is a big deal.

758
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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Matt, best way to support you, what you do,

759
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how you do it for all the listeners.

760
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Speaker 6: Yes, this season, I joined the BYU Radio. I'm with

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Greg Rebel, Hans, Mitch Jurgen and Jason Sheppard.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 6: I'll be doing pregame this week live from AT and

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T Stadium on all the places you hear BOU Radio,

765
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on the app, app on Kiss, on these radio and

766
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,599
b your radio, all those things. So can follow me

767
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on Twitter, but hey, listen to the game day broadcast

768
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and that's where you'll find me.

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Speaker 2: My god Matt by Monte, Ladies and gentlem make sure

770
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you're follow him on X and listening to them on

771
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BYU Radio. Thanks so much, Matt, great content as always.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, thanks again, Ben, appreciate all you guys.

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Speaker 4: Have a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yep, have a great night.

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We have a number of different things that we want

828
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,320
to celebrate regarding the Big Twelve awards, and.

829
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: Number one, I want to give a Big Cougar ar.

830
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,599
Speaker 2: Obviously the Kialane Shaitak is the Coach of the Year

831
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,559
Big Twelve Coach of the Year. Do you feel like

832
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,199
there was anybody that was really competing with him? I mean,

833
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,440
Joey McGuire, I guess you could have given it given

834
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,199
it to him, But why is it that Kilani deserved

835
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:22,400
it this year in your opinion?

836
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,639
Speaker 7: Look, he had an argument last year, Ben, if we're

837
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:26,880
gonna be honest, he just didn't get to the title game.

838
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,719
But everything points towards and to answer your question, no,

839
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,599
I don't think there was another coach outside.

840
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:33,199
Speaker 8: Of Joey that really deserved it.

841
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 7: Since coming get to the Big Twelve right third season,

842
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:37,960
they're already in the title game. I mean, look how

843
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,440
long it takes other teams and opportunity to even get there.

844
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,320
Like Arizona State got it in there, what you know,

845
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,480
first year in and won it. Kenny Dillaham I think,

846
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:47,719
was the coach of the like Rifley. So right, So

847
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:51,280
Kilanie's on that same trajectory twenty two to three in

848
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,360
the last two seasons.

849
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,199
Speaker 8: Look, that's a coach that really knows how to win, has.

850
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:57,639
Speaker 7: A great program, and just look at his record over

851
00:41:57,679 --> 00:41:59,599
the last you know, even six years as a whole,

852
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:03,239
four ten win seasons and what six seasons, So you

853
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,840
have to take that. You can't take that with the grin.

854
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,400
So anytime you get double digit wins been in college

855
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,440
football yet alone in a P four conference, it's you

856
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,880
can't overlook that, especially when you go what eight to

857
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,920
one and you went seven and two last year, Like

858
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:18,679
that's really respectable. You took the highest JUCO rated quarterback

859
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,599
last year, Jake, and then he was able to go

860
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:22,639
to Tulane and has his team in a good position. Right,

861
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:24,639
you take a true freshman this year and I know

862
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:27,559
that tomorrow of a robber. Kalani oversees all of this, right,

863
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,079
and this program now has an opportunity to go to

864
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:33,360
the college football playoffs. So I think it's the right move.

865
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,679
I think everybody got it right. But it is still

866
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:37,760
criminal that he is not even up for a Coach

867
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,960
of the Year in the world, Like he's not just

868
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,239
a Big twelve coach of the year. Ben Klania is

869
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,920
the coach of the Year in all of college football,

870
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,199
in my opinion, and that should have been a discussion

871
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,599
and it's criminal not because if they went on Saturday,

872
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,199
you tell me another program that has been able to

873
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,880
turn it around as fast and play at a high

874
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,840
level as BYU.

875
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 8: I can't seem to find one of them when you

876
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:56,159
look at the numbers.

877
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 7: I'm bringing up facts right there being a lot of

878
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,519
these other SEC teams and big teams based on strength

879
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:03,519
and number of strength to record, but people just want

880
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:05,599
to choose to ignore it and be dismissive.

881
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: Kilanney guided his BYU Cougar's do an eleven to one

882
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:13,440
regular season record and number eleven overall ranking. He's coming

883
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,679
off a fantastic season. Going eleven and two would win

884
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,760
over Colorado. So there was some momentum of some great momentum,

885
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,880
and he seized that momentum and became coach of the Year.

886
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,679
My question to you, Ronald, though, is like, how did

887
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:31,599
he how did he outs? How was he able to

888
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,519
overcome the bell of the ball? Texas Tech and Joey

889
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:38,679
McGuire here, I think that's a conversation. I mean, look,

890
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:42,480
if you're Texas Tech fans are like, wait a sec wait,

891
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,199
just a minute.

892
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:47,159
Speaker 3: We're number four in the nation. Right where where.

893
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: The cream of the crop? Where the Krem Dela Krem.

894
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,320
Joey McGuire just got his contract extent. He got a

895
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,119
big pay raised too. Why wasn't it Joey McGuire's title

896
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:00,639
to the taking.

897
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 7: I mean, look, Texas Tech should be in that position.

898
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,840
That's what everybody's saying in the beginning. Ben, Look, it's

899
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,400
like baseball, right. Jason Kelsey said this on his podcast.

900
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,119
I know I'm bringing in other national and other outlets,

901
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:14,719
but look, when you pay for the whole the best roster,

902
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,119
people expect you to be there. No one's surprised, Like,

903
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,199
are you surprised that Texas Tech is there? I'm not right, Like,

904
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,079
I'm not. Like they paid for that roster. So that's

905
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:24,760
what happens. And when you pay for the best and

906
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,679
then you achieve, that's exactly what's supposed to happen. Some

907
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,079
people thought they were supposed to be undefeated, Ben, because

908
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:33,000
they invested what twenty eight million, you'll Trevor Maddis has

909
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,039
been on record with us and you know, on ESPN

910
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:38,840
saying they paid for this having more like the defensive line.

911
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 8: I think it's worth seven million a loan. So are

912
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:41,880
you surprised about Like?

913
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 7: No, Jagar Rodriguez was the preseason Defensive Player of the

914
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,280
Year candidate.

915
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 8: He ended up winning that.

916
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:48,119
Speaker 7: Like, you're not surprised by what they were doing and

917
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:50,440
it was supposed to no one expected by you. Brett

918
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:53,480
McMurphy went around and polled the fans. I'm not fans

919
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:55,719
the coaches right of where BYU was at middle of

920
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,079
the pack. No one thought by You would be above six.

921
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:00,159
I had BU between six and eight. I was wrong,

922
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:02,360
and the rest of the Big Twelve and everybody else was.

923
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,440
No one had BYU competing for a Big Twelve title.

924
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:07,559
Everybody else had Texas Tech as one of their top

925
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:09,719
three teams. No one had BYU in that mix. And

926
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,039
what they did with their true freshman quarterback after the

927
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:16,119
entire country doubted, you know, BYU Jake Retzff even been

928
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:18,719
in this is I think why Baron Morten came back

929
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,920
to Texas Tech. Right, even though they have Will Hammond

930
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,719
who was playing great, Guess what happens, Jake Leaves and

931
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,440
BYU isn't even ranked the top twenty five team. They

932
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,440
should have been, but they weren't in the preseasoniere at six,

933
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:32,239
still not ranked in the top twenty five, and it's

934
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,880
criminal that like that's disrespectful.

935
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,039
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if Jake left.

936
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 7: Ben Bye was going to be a top ten team

937
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,360
with Jake, and all of a sudden now they're not

938
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:41,000
even a top twenty five team. And then look what happened.

939
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,760
Now they're the number eleven team in the country. So

940
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,920
obviously those that work at ESPN, the College Football Playoff Committee,

941
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,360
those in ap Polton have no idea what they're doing.

942
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:50,480
Their jobs are should be on the line just as

943
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:51,280
much anybody else.

944
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:51,599
Speaker 6: As I know.

945
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 8: I'm going on a ran. But that's why you picked

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against BYU.

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Speaker 7: You doubted them the whole time in the conference and

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from the national level, and they've done the exact opposite.

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Speaker 8: You don't want to give them their respect.

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Speaker 7: So you have no choice but to give Kilane Sataki

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the head Coach of the Year because you bet it

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against him and he got it done.

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Speaker 3: Got it done.

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Speaker 2: Kalani Sitaki, Ladies and gentlemen, and he should be a

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part of the the at least the Coach of the

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Year finalist Kurt Signetti of Indiana, Ryan Dave Ohio State,

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and Clark of Vanderbilt all Coach of the Year finalists.

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So look, if money dollars spent on your roster negate

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your coaching ability. What about Ryan Day? I mean they've

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spent a lot. Goodness gracious, put Joey McGuire into that

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coach of your candidate finalists as well.

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Speaker 3: LJ.

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Speaker 2: Martin finished the twenty twenty five regular season as the

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Big Twelve statistical leader in rushing yards and twenty nine

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yards per game. He became Offensive Player of the Year

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because of it. He was tenth nationally in all purpose yards,

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twelfth and rushing yards and fourteenth and rushing yards per game.

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Shout out to the Earl Campbell, Tyler Rose semi finalists

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l J. Martin forgetting that Offensive Player of the Year award.

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Freshman of the Year in the Big Twelve, Bear Bochmeyer

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was named the conference Freshman of the Week seven times

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during the regular season. The six foot two, two hundred

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and thirty pound true freshman at A Murrieta, California, completed

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two hundred and eight of three hundred and twenty two

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passes for two thy five hundred and ninety three yards

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fourteen touchdowns, were just four interceptions. He averaged two hundred

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and sixteen yards of passing per game with an efficiency

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of one to forty four point one. In addition, Bachmeyer

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was second on the team in rushing with one hundred

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and thirty seven carries five hundred twenty nine yards.

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Speaker 3: And I think he.

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Speaker 2: Now he has over ten touchdowns, so he got eleven touchdowns.

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Out I mean goodness, gracious me o mint, great work

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from Bear Bachmeyer. Tanner Wall was second was also highlighted.

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I think he was first team defense. Shout out to Tanner.

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He had four interceptions, second in the Big twelve, and

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was second on the team with fifty seven tackles. He's

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a member of the twenty twenty five All State AFC

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A Good Works Team and as a finalist for both

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the All State Werfel Trophy and the Pop Warner College

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Football Award, as well as a semi finalist for the

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Jason Witton Collegiate Man of the Year Award. Jack Kelly

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was also named to the first team. He was third

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in the Big twelven tackles in saxxcuse me in sacks,

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and fifth in forced fumbles. Was on the watch list

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for both the Chuck Bennaric Award and the Buckkiss Award

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and shout out to Bruce Mitchell, also part of the

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first team offense for the.

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Speaker 3: Big twelve The Tip of the Spear. Love it.

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Speaker 2: Great work from Bruce Mitchell. Let's go to break, guys

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a little sports cord coming up next. This is Cougar

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Sports on one O three to nine ninety eight point

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