WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.879 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast edition 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:05.879 of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to give 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.240 us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.800 single day on your favorite podcast platform. The American way 6 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:19.199 to really zero in on these big, high profile crimes 7 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:21.559 and try to figure it out. It's been a phenomena 8 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:24.079 for a long time, right, whether it's COJ Simpson trial 9 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:30.320 or any of these other examples. But this horrific execution, assassination, 10 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.880 whatever you want to call it, of the United Healthcare CEO, 11 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:38.000 the insurance industry CEO in New York, has captured the 12 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:40.679 nation's attention. So I want to keep you up to 13 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:43.920 the minute on that, and I know you're catching some 14 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:46.280 headlines along the way, maybe deeper than that. I've got 15 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:48.479 a little different take on the evidence that's popped up 16 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:49.119 at this point. 17 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:51.439 But let's do a quick review. 18 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:54.960 Of that and then a few not blockbuster but interesting 19 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:58.359 facts just in the last five minutes. Some people do 20 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:01.719 see a connection between these wars and the healthcare industry 21 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:02.920 itself exactly. 22 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.680 There was a book written with a version of this 23 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:10.840 about practices in the healthcare industry. This is if you 24 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:15.359 go online you will see numerous blogs and articles with 25 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:20.439 combinations slightly varied, but of these general three words as 26 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:23.000 critical of the healthcare insurance industry. 27 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:27.519 Yeah, and the words of course denied, defend, deposed, the 28 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:31.920 words reportedly written on the shell casings left at the scene. 29 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:36.879 So first question is is that misdirection? Is that intentional 30 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.920 misdirection to try to make authorities believe that the motive 31 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.719 here was a denied insurance claim versus some other motive. 32 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:47.280 So that's the first question. Could it be as simple 33 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:52.359 as a denied insurance claim? Sure, but keep that misdirection 34 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.599 possibility in mind. Some of the other facts that have 35 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:58.120 popped up are been reported in the last few minutes. 36 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:02.000 I should say, or had been in New York for 37 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:06.280 ten days, staying at this youth hostile for apparently most 38 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:09.080 of the time, where he roomed with two other males, 39 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:13.400 but curiously wore a mask inside the hostile. Yeah, but 40 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:16.240 I guess in New York that wouldn't raise any thoughts 41 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.719 or concerns or anything. So those some of the other 42 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.199 new clues out today. The biggest you already know of, 43 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:26.159 right is the guy allowed full face photos of himself. 44 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:29.199 So we talked yesterday on the show about how this 45 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:33.400 person obviously wanted to be caught if he's still alive, 46 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:35.560 because even the mask he was wearing at the time 47 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.719 of the murder, you know, it was just half face. 48 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:43.400 And so you know why, as a texture said yesterday, okay, 49 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.240 why did he choose to do it outside rather than 50 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.280 inside one of the odels? But why did he choose 51 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:50.919 to do it outside? But why did he want to 52 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.840 be identified? Why do you think he wanted to be identified? 53 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:58.560 Was it because he wants to be known for this crime, 54 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.840 that he has some cause, some agenda that he wants 55 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:05.439 to speak to through social media that's already up once 56 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:08.520 they identify him to the public, you know, if he's 57 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:13.599 apprehended alive, you know, but clearly he wants to be identified, 58 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.159 and if he's still alive, he wants to be caught. 59 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:19.000 That's the way that he's acting. So what do you 60 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:21.159 make of all that? Eight five five for zero five 61 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:26.719 eight two five five the number? And does this have 62 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:32.400 any broader effect? Obviously just absolutely tragic for the family 63 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:36.120 dead two sons. As I understand, it doesn't have any 64 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.639 broader effect if it is in fact, somebody who killed 65 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:43.479 over a denied insurance claim. You know, then that really 66 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.439 worries me. I mean, hey, listen, I spend pretty much 67 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.080 every day of my professional life fighting insurance companies for 68 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.919 injured people. But we've got to operate within the law, 69 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:55.919 and that again, that's that's one of the greatest gifts 70 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.400 the founders gave us a way to peacefully resolve our 71 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:03.719 differences within the law in courtrooms, etc. Not resort to violence. 72 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:05.879 That's a big reason why this country has made it 73 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:10.400 so long and thrived is we have this non violent 74 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.120 way to pursue grievances, and so. 75 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:15.120 You know, this kind of thing. 76 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:17.959 It just if that was the mode of an underline, 77 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:23.079 I just think it's it's an assault on American stability. 78 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:24.959 I'm not saying there's going to be a lot of copycats. 79 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:27.040 I'd pray there are none, but it's an assault on 80 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:28.199 American stability. 81 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:30.839 Let's go to some text as well. 82 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:33.920 I've got kind of an eclectic show today because it's 83 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:37.000 an eclectic time in America. I think the overarching theme 84 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:40.759 is let the celebration continue, because so many good things 85 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:44.720 are happening since Trump won, But we haven't talked about 86 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:48.199 heg Sas and that nomination. Yet today here's a little 87 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:51.240 tape of Pete Hegseth on with Megan Kelly. 88 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.839 But then come the flurry of allegations about your personal life. 89 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.680 And I think it's admitted, at least in your divorce 90 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:01.439 proceedings that you did cheat on your first two wives. 91 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:04.240 You're on your third marriage to Jen, a former colleague 92 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:08.680 of my own at Fox and yours too. And your 93 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.040 hook up with this woman in Monterey happened when you 94 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:12.600 were with Jen. 95 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:14.639 So that's three right. 96 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:16.759 And there are a lot of women at home and 97 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:20.000 men who will be like, it's a no right, he's 98 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:22.879 too much of a serial cheater, Like how can we 99 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.160 put a guy in this position who's a serial cheater? 100 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.959 So is that a fair characterization of you? 101 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.600 I'm the kidding would have been it was a fair 102 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:35.959 characterization of me before I truly was changed by Jen 103 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:37.639 and my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 104 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:39.120 And I mean that, I mean people cannot believe that 105 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:42.160 if they don't want to, you know. 106 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:44.839 Put me in that camp of people who unless something 107 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.399 new and big comes out about hag Sets, I want 108 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:49.720 to see him confirmed. And I'd love your take on this, 109 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:51.279 He would not have been my first choice. 110 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:54.360 But who would have been your first choice? Oh, it 111 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:55.480 would have been DeSantis. 112 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.800 If he wouldn't take it, I doubt very much you 113 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:02.800 take it if in fact Trump moves off, heg seth, 114 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:04.480 I hope it's disantus. 115 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:05.560 But listen to Santas. 116 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.839 He's been one of the greatest governors in history. Right 117 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:12.199 he's going to be starting his public presidential campaign in 118 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:16.319 two years that you know, blow the surface is operating already, 119 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:21.199 so that would seem becoming Defense secretary would really seem 120 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:25.000 to cramp his style on that. But hopefully he does 121 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:26.920 it if Trump turns to him, just for the sake 122 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:27.480 of America. 123 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:28.800 But heg Seth. 124 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:31.959 Yeah, it wouldn't have been my first choice. But you know, 125 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:33.560 only could talked about Trump one. 126 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:35.240 He's entitled to his people. 127 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.319 And there's a bigger issue now in play because like 128 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.920 with Kavanaugh, where the left just seeks these scalps, you know, 129 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.519 political blood sport, and it's so hypocritical and it's so 130 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.879 intellectually dishonest because look who they've been supporting along a 131 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.759 man who is severely impaired each and every day in 132 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:56.680 Joe Biden, and he's commander in chief and they actively 133 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:01.680 support him every day. And so heg Seth has these failures. 134 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:05.079 Who doesn't have some failures? Now, fair question. I mean 135 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:10.120 as to whether somebody's trustworthy when they've cheated on three 136 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.839 straight wives, that's a fair question. He's got an explanation 137 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.920 that he found God and changed his life, and to me, 138 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:22.920 that can be an enormously credible, credible you know, defense 139 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.759 in that situation. Now somebody turns up some other evidence 140 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:27.759 that shows, now I look at all this other stuff 141 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:31.000 he's still doing. But right now, my hope is that 142 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:34.720 he is confirmed for those reasons. Eight five for zero 143 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.040 five A two five five The number takes d an 144 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:39.600 five seven seven three nine. 145 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:41.160 If you're looking for something to. 146 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:46.000 Do tomorrow morning, it's unusual and extraordinarily cool, and I 147 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:49.480 bet it will be an absolutely wonderful gathering tomorrow morning, 148 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:53.759 ten thirty a m. At the corner of Kendrick Casteeleway, 149 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.399 that's the old lucent boulevard in Plaza drive out in 150 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:01.040 Highland's Ranch is going to be the official ceremony to 151 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:05.759 honor one of Colorado's greatest heroes ever, Kendrick Castile And 152 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:09.560 how great, how smart to change that name loocent drive 153 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:13.319 to Kendrick Castile Way, and it's about time that we 154 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.079 start honoring the people who should really be honored, right, 155 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.199 I mean, you can't give you're new to the area. 156 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:21.040 You can't get a much bigger hero than Kendrick Castillo, 157 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:26.000 wonderful young man from great parents who knowingly lays down 158 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:30.079 his life to save his entire classroom from being methodically executed. 159 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.080 That was the plan of these killers. I've had the 160 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:38.320 privilege of representing and missus Castile, and so you know, 161 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.080 we did more than twenty depositions. 162 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:42.159 We got everybody in the earth. We got a bunch 163 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:42.799 of documents. 164 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.879 There is no doubt the plan of these heinous killers 165 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:51.240 was to lock out the rescuers and to methodically execute 166 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:55.840 every child in that classroom and the teachers. And Kendrick 167 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:59.759 Castile stood up to stop that gave his life for it. 168 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.679 Some other courageous students followed him as he took on 169 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.120 the shooter. But but that's what was going to happen, 170 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.360 one by one executed in that classroom, and he saved 171 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:13.600 him all and he gave up his life in the process. 172 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.919 That is the epitome of everything good. Right, It's the 173 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.799 epitome of a great American, it's the epitome of a 174 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.519 great Christian. It's the epitome of everything good. And so 175 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:29.120 how tremendous that's going to be celebrated and memorialized, you know, 176 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.360 with the renaming of this street, so that ceremony tomorrow 177 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:35.759 morning at ten thirty a m. 178 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:38.279 And Colorado needs to do a lot more of that. 179 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.440 I've never understood this business ryan of naming all this 180 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.519 big stuff after politicians. I mean, politicians get plenty out 181 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.559 of being elected officeholders, or else they wouldn't go after it, right, 182 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.840 So why are we naming the stuff after them instead 183 00:09:54.879 --> 00:10:00.840 of after true American heroes like Kendrick and people who've died, 184 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.120 people who've died in law enforcement, people who died in 185 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.200 the military, heroes from other walks of life. Well, I 186 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:10.480 be naming this stuff after politicians, certain politicians, certainly, But 187 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:12.440 I would say somebody like DWYG. 188 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:16.240 David Eisenhower, who was a legend for myriad reason or 189 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.600 the least of which she was the commander of the 190 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.159 Allied forces that delivered freedom from the Nazis and so forth. 191 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:25.440 And amen, my brother, I mean you'll have some exceptions, right, 192 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.120 talk about your garden variety politicians. I'm Kennedy. You know 193 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.080 his great work during the Cuban missile crisis. I'm talking about. 194 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.320 And listen, though, are politics differ I like Federico Pina, 195 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.600 I like him personally, but you know that boulevards should 196 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:43.919 not be named after a living former mayor, you know 197 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:44.360 what I mean? 198 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.480 But how much political grease did it take to get 199 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:49.639 that whole project done? You let's have something to do 200 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:49.799 with that. 201 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:53.600 You have the five rus five eight two five five, 202 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:55.080 the number there was never end is? 203 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:58.879 I remember about Federico and again we disagree on major policy. 204 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:02.000 There's never any out to hint of scandal surrounding him. 205 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:04.120 Talk at Scan, I'll talk an influence, you know what 206 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:06.919 I mean, making some promises. 207 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:12.559 Yeah, no, I can't speak to that I because I 208 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:14.360 truly don't know and it's been a long time. All 209 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:18.159 I'm saying is this big stuff. Unless it's somebody like 210 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.399 Dwight Eisenhower or something, it neems to be named after 211 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:24.200 these other kind of heroes in our midst You're on 212 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:25.399 the Dan Capla Show. 213 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:34.799 And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. 214 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.919 It's completely, uh shocking to even even write this, and 215 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.200 the you know, the idea of offering people who have 216 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.679 not been charged with any crime, there's no even hint 217 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.200 of committing any crimes pardons because the nature of the 218 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:55.480 incoming administration is such that they're pretty open about the 219 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.120 idea of pursuing a kind of third world model of 220 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.600 where we come in, we go after the guys. Now, 221 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.000 I can hear what the Trump folks are gonna say immediately, 222 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.679 which is he's only doing what they did to us. 223 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:10.600 And I think, guys, that's what you'll hear next year 224 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:14.799 if the Trump folks do first new these revenge investigations 225 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.519 or indictments of they started laws their first they indicted 226 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.399 Trump left and right. We're only keeping the same thing going. 227 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:23.840 And you can see it easily right now. Hey, guys, 228 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.080 that's why this debate is so serious in the White 229 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:28.639 House and why they're they're they're taking this, I think 230 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:31.240 with some measure of sobriety, even though it is an 231 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:32.559 extraordinary precedent to. 232 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:37.240 Set obviously no self awareness there for Jonathan Martin, but 233 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.240 really fascinating, right because when we talked about this yesterday, 234 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.639 this political story that Biden is considering, among other pardons, 235 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:46.279 I mean, we know he's going to pardon his brother, 236 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:52.000 right and and but among other pardons Shift and Fouche 237 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.759 and Liz Cheney and who knows. 238 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:55.960 Where else that goes. 239 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:00.639 It led to this question, can somebody turn down up pardon? 240 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.120 So I went and did a little bit of research. 241 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.639 Now I didn't legally research this the way I do 242 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:07.879 my stuff in my law practice, but I did some 243 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:12.120 online stuff and it appears to be unanimous that yes, 244 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:16.360 one hundred percent, absolutely somebody can turn down a pardon. 245 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:21.120 And so that's another reason why I so hope he 246 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.600 pardons all of them, because first of all, to pardon 247 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:26.159 them is to convict them, right, And I don't have 248 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:28.960 any evidence that any of those people has committed a crime. 249 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:31.399 I'm just very very upset with. 250 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.120 Those people for things they have done on a public 251 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.200 policy level that have been very damaging to this country 252 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:41.159 and causes that I hold dear. But I'm not aware 253 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:42.600 that any of them is committed a crime. But I 254 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.159 don't have access to the information I need to know 255 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:50.720 whether they committed a crime. But if they are pardoned, 256 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:53.399 they are convicted in the court of public opinion. That 257 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:56.279 happens pretty much automatically. I think you'd agree. But then 258 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:00.000 you get to the fun part. Do they turn it down? 259 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.200 And what do you think? Well, ask doctor Fauchi. I 260 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:04.159 think he's here right now, aren't you, doctor Fauci. 261 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:08.279 If you are offered a pub pardon only if it 262 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:12.440 prevents me from ever having to talk to Ram Paul again, 263 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:13.440 then I would accept. 264 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:17.039 Okay, Okay, I'm not sure it would get you that. 265 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:20.720 In fact, probably the opposite effect, because if you accept 266 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:22.919 a pardon, well, then at that point you don't have 267 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:24.320 any Fifth Amendment. 268 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:25.960 Immunity. 269 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.200 That because you have immunity, you don't have a Fifth 270 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:30.039 Amendment right against self incriminations. 271 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:32.720 So if you no longer have to go to the 272 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:36.360 Catholic Church because I live my life according to my 273 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:37.440 own value. 274 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.600 Wow, that was and I am the science and who knows. 275 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.759 One of well those two Yeah, that they just say 276 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:52.720 it all, don't they. It's man, no fear of apparently, 277 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.200 no fear of what's to come after passing away? Right, 278 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:59.039 But yeah, So that would be the real fun part 279 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:01.519 is then all these people would have to decide whether 280 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:06.559 to accept the pardon. And if they accepted the pardon, well, 281 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:09.279 then the American people take it to another level. In 282 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:12.360 terms of their certainty that some crime was committed. But 283 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:17.120 if they reject the pardon, that's pretty impressive. Who do 284 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:19.000 you think would accept? Who do you think would reject? 285 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:21.159 Eight five five for zero five eight two five five 286 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:23.720 text d An five seven seventy nine. You got Fauci, 287 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:28.919 you got Shiff, you got Liz Cheney reportedly maybe offered pardons. 288 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:30.960 Who accepts, who rejects? 289 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.639 Doesn't Adam Schiff release a statement saying there's no reason 290 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:36.960 for me to receive a pardon and he rejected the 291 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:37.919 premis al together. 292 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:41.639 Yeah, it's not rejecting the part. No, it's not. 293 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:42.159 Yeah. 294 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:45.120 I think let's Jenny better take it because she did 295 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:45.919 some dirty stuff. 296 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:48.399 Dan, I'm talking about the jan sixth. 297 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.720 Subcommittee, the texts that were deleted, the collusion and the cooperation, 298 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.320 the communication with and Alexa knows her named the young 299 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:59.759 lady that contested that Trump tried to grab the steering wheel, 300 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:03.960 this Secret Service officer, which was ridiculous on its face, 301 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:08.000 Benny Thompson not apparently not knowing at all what happened 302 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.120 to a lot of the evidence when confronted by Thomas Massey, 303 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.600 the video that showed somebody discovering a bomb outside the 304 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.080 DNC then alerting police. Who was that person? Why do 305 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.039 we not know who that person is? There's so much 306 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:22.159 that went wrong with that subcommittee. It was a total sham. 307 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.200 Yeah, and that's where, Hey, just my forty years of 308 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.519 practice in law, my belief is I would need subpoena 309 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:30.159 power to get to the bottom of all that. And 310 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:32.919 I know the reporting that you're talking about, but I 311 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.279 wouldn't need subpoena power to really dig in and figure 312 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:37.159 out if any of those people had committed a crime. 313 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:38.600 I know the reasons. 314 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:41.240 I'm extremely upset with them and think they've caused great 315 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.600 harm to very important causes, But a crime, I would 316 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:47.440 need to really be able to dig in and figure 317 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:47.840 that out. 318 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.279 Text or Dan, are you serious? 319 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:53.200 Federico Pina was one of the most corrupt and partisan 320 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.840 politicians in Colorado history. Listen, and again we disagree on 321 00:16:57.159 --> 00:16:59.159 the big issues. I'm not aware of any corruption on 322 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:02.240 Federico Payne part. And the reason this came up if 323 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.480 you just joined us, is I'm talking about why are 324 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:08.640 we naming stuff after politicians instead of, you know, like 325 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:11.960 this great thing that's being done. Kender Castile way out 326 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.400 in Highland's ranch. That's the right thing to do. That's 327 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:18.799 being officially commemorated tomorrow. That's a beautiful thing. But should 328 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.160 we take politicians names off stuff? 329 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:22.079 You know? 330 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:25.200 And again my point was, I'd like Federico Pina personally, 331 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:27.599 disagree with him on policy, not aware of any corruption, 332 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:30.160 but I don't think his name should be on that boulevard. 333 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.519 I think it should be, you know, some somebody from 334 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:38.519 everyday life who was a tremendous hero. And that can 335 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.799 be somebody who gave their life for US police, fire, military, 336 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.519 it can be somebody else, but it politicians. 337 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:47.240 Should be the last people this stuff's named after. 338 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:49.599 You ever driven through West Virginia, Dan, I got a 339 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:50.960 real bad nominee for you. 340 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:52.599 How about Robert C. 341 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.119 Byrd Highway in West Virginia? 342 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:57.359 Cyclass. 343 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:58.480 Yeah. 344 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:00.359 No, It's interesting because the left is so big on 345 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.720 taking names off stuff of people they don't like. But 346 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:07.480 but shouldn't just as a general rule, shouldn't we take 347 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:12.119 the politicians' names off everything? Now? And unless you're talking 348 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:16.720 at Dwight Eisenower, right or something like that, shouldn't we 349 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:19.799 just take the politician's name off? And who else would 350 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:20.759 you name stuff after? 351 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:23.640 But on the same stretch of highway you got kender Castille. 352 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:25.319 But then also Dave Sanders. 353 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:29.240 Oh those lines, yes, and we were probably involved in 354 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:29.759 part of that. 355 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.839 But sure, but yeah, what politicians' names would you take 356 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:35.519 off things right now? 357 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:37.960 Like we have that all over Colorado right now. And 358 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:40.279 if you are going to have politicians names on stuff, 359 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.680 then you should have bill Owens highway sense? 360 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:44.759 Can you imagine as bad as I twenty five is 361 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:46.680 what it would look like if Bill Owens had not 362 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:47.799 pushed through that project? 363 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:50.039 Here on the Dan Kapsa show. 364 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:02.119 You're listening to the Dan Kaplas show. Podcas asked Thursday afternoon, 365 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:02.960 Dean and Arvada. 366 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:04.680 You're on the Dan Kaplas. You'll welcome. 367 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:10.240 Dan. Hey, I was telling about all these pardons. 368 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:13.240 I mean, where does it stop. Could he just pardon 369 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:17.160 Jack Smith, Merrick Darland, all of the Jacksmith committee? 370 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.160 I mean, I mean. 371 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.240 Everybody that worked on the Jack Smith case. Could they 372 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:23.039 all be pardoned? I mean, it doesn't make sense that 373 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:25.400 you can pardon someone that hasn't committed a crime. 374 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:28.160 It seems like, oh, interesting question, Dean, yea, have the 375 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:29.559 loss well established on that? 376 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:30.119 You can? 377 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.759 I mean you can you can pardon somebody before, say 378 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.079 they're charged with the crime. Now what, let me take 379 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:40.160 that back a little bit, my friend, tech, you are correct, 380 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:44.680 you cannot pardon somebody before they commit a crime. You 381 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.759 can only pardon them for crimes they've already committed. But 382 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:50.720 you can pardon them before they are charged with the crime. 383 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:56.480 So you could pardon them like without like, well, we 384 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:58.400 don't know if they're going to be charged, so we'll 385 00:19:58.480 --> 00:19:59.440 just pardon them now. 386 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:00.599 Correct. 387 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:04.480 So you're pardoning somebody for all crimes committed between a 388 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.680 certain and within a certain time period, or you can 389 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:09.920 limit it and you can say okay, like with Hunter Biden, 390 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:12.240 you could have said, okay, he's pardoned for the two 391 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:15.920 federal client crimes that he was convicted of, but instead, 392 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:20.039 obviously Joe Biden pardons them for any federal offense he 393 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.519 committed from twenty fourteen forward. Wow. 394 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:23.400 What a coincidence. 395 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:28.000 So yeah, but it gets to your interesting pointing that 396 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:32.240 you can in fact pardon people who have not committed 397 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:37.079 any crime, but you have to pardon them up to 398 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:39.440 the present point in time. You can't pardon them for 399 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:40.519 any future crime. 400 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:43.920 Wow. 401 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:46.559