Speaker 1: This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast edition
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Speaker 1: to really zero in on these big, high profile crimes
Speaker 1: and try to figure it out. It's been a phenomena
Speaker 1: for a long time, right, whether it's COJ Simpson trial
Speaker 1: or any of these other examples. But this horrific execution, assassination,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, of the United Healthcare CEO,
Speaker 1: the insurance industry CEO in New York, has captured the
Speaker 1: nation's attention. So I want to keep you up to
Speaker 1: the minute on that, and I know you're catching some
Speaker 1: headlines along the way, maybe deeper than that. I've got
Speaker 1: a little different take on the evidence that's popped up
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 2: But let's do a quick review.
Speaker 1: Of that and then a few not blockbuster but interesting
Speaker 1: facts just in the last five minutes. Some people do
Speaker 1: see a connection between these wars and the healthcare industry
Speaker 1: itself exactly.
Speaker 3: There was a book written with a version of this
Speaker 3: about practices in the healthcare industry. This is if you
Speaker 3: go online you will see numerous blogs and articles with
Speaker 3: combinations slightly varied, but of these general three words as
Speaker 3: critical of the healthcare insurance industry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the words of course denied, defend, deposed, the
Speaker 1: words reportedly written on the shell casings left at the scene.
Speaker 1: So first question is is that misdirection? Is that intentional
Speaker 1: misdirection to try to make authorities believe that the motive
Speaker 1: here was a denied insurance claim versus some other motive.
Speaker 1: So that's the first question. Could it be as simple
Speaker 1: as a denied insurance claim? Sure, but keep that misdirection
Speaker 1: possibility in mind. Some of the other facts that have
Speaker 1: popped up are been reported in the last few minutes.
Speaker 1: I should say, or had been in New York for
Speaker 1: ten days, staying at this youth hostile for apparently most
Speaker 1: of the time, where he roomed with two other males,
Speaker 1: but curiously wore a mask inside the hostile. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I guess in New York that wouldn't raise any thoughts
Speaker 1: or concerns or anything. So those some of the other
Speaker 1: new clues out today. The biggest you already know of,
Speaker 1: right is the guy allowed full face photos of himself.
Speaker 1: So we talked yesterday on the show about how this
Speaker 1: person obviously wanted to be caught if he's still alive,
Speaker 1: because even the mask he was wearing at the time
Speaker 1: of the murder, you know, it was just half face.
Speaker 1: And so you know why, as a texture said yesterday, okay,
Speaker 1: why did he choose to do it outside rather than
Speaker 1: inside one of the odels? But why did he choose
Speaker 1: to do it outside? But why did he want to
Speaker 1: be identified? Why do you think he wanted to be identified?
Speaker 1: Was it because he wants to be known for this crime,
Speaker 1: that he has some cause, some agenda that he wants
Speaker 1: to speak to through social media that's already up once
Speaker 1: they identify him to the public, you know, if he's
Speaker 1: apprehended alive, you know, but clearly he wants to be identified,
Speaker 1: and if he's still alive, he wants to be caught.
Speaker 1: That's the way that he's acting. So what do you
Speaker 1: make of all that? Eight five five for zero five
Speaker 1: eight two five five the number? And does this have
Speaker 1: any broader effect? Obviously just absolutely tragic for the family
Speaker 1: dead two sons. As I understand, it doesn't have any
Speaker 1: broader effect if it is in fact, somebody who killed
Speaker 1: over a denied insurance claim. You know, then that really
Speaker 1: worries me. I mean, hey, listen, I spend pretty much
Speaker 1: every day of my professional life fighting insurance companies for
Speaker 1: injured people. But we've got to operate within the law,
Speaker 1: and that again, that's that's one of the greatest gifts
Speaker 1: the founders gave us a way to peacefully resolve our
Speaker 1: differences within the law in courtrooms, etc. Not resort to violence.
Speaker 1: That's a big reason why this country has made it
Speaker 1: so long and thrived is we have this non violent
Speaker 1: way to pursue grievances, and so.
Speaker 2: You know, this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It just if that was the mode of an underline,
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's an assault on American stability.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's going to be a lot of copycats.
Speaker 1: I'd pray there are none, but it's an assault on
Speaker 1: American stability.
Speaker 2: Let's go to some text as well.
Speaker 1: I've got kind of an eclectic show today because it's
Speaker 1: an eclectic time in America. I think the overarching theme
Speaker 1: is let the celebration continue, because so many good things
Speaker 1: are happening since Trump won, But we haven't talked about
Speaker 1: heg Sas and that nomination. Yet today here's a little
Speaker 1: tape of Pete Hegseth on with Megan Kelly.
Speaker 4: But then come the flurry of allegations about your personal life.
Speaker 4: And I think it's admitted, at least in your divorce
Speaker 4: proceedings that you did cheat on your first two wives.
Speaker 4: You're on your third marriage to Jen, a former colleague
Speaker 4: of my own at Fox and yours too. And your
Speaker 4: hook up with this woman in Monterey happened when you
Speaker 4: were with Jen.
Speaker 2: So that's three right.
Speaker 4: And there are a lot of women at home and
Speaker 4: men who will be like, it's a no right, he's
Speaker 4: too much of a serial cheater, Like how can we
Speaker 4: put a guy in this position who's a serial cheater?
Speaker 4: So is that a fair characterization of you?
Speaker 1: I'm the kidding would have been it was a fair
Speaker 1: characterization of me before I truly was changed by Jen
Speaker 1: and my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: And I mean that, I mean people cannot believe that
Speaker 2: if they don't want to, you know.
Speaker 1: Put me in that camp of people who unless something
Speaker 1: new and big comes out about hag Sets, I want
Speaker 1: to see him confirmed. And I'd love your take on this,
Speaker 1: He would not have been my first choice.
Speaker 2: But who would have been your first choice? Oh, it
Speaker 2: would have been DeSantis.
Speaker 1: If he wouldn't take it, I doubt very much you
Speaker 1: take it if in fact Trump moves off, heg seth,
Speaker 1: I hope it's disantus.
Speaker 2: But listen to Santas.
Speaker 1: He's been one of the greatest governors in history. Right
Speaker 1: he's going to be starting his public presidential campaign in
Speaker 1: two years that you know, blow the surface is operating already,
Speaker 1: so that would seem becoming Defense secretary would really seem
Speaker 1: to cramp his style on that. But hopefully he does
Speaker 1: it if Trump turns to him, just for the sake
Speaker 1: of America.
Speaker 2: But heg Seth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wouldn't have been my first choice. But you know,
Speaker 1: only could talked about Trump one.
Speaker 2: He's entitled to his people.
Speaker 1: And there's a bigger issue now in play because like
Speaker 1: with Kavanaugh, where the left just seeks these scalps, you know,
Speaker 1: political blood sport, and it's so hypocritical and it's so
Speaker 1: intellectually dishonest because look who they've been supporting along a
Speaker 1: man who is severely impaired each and every day in
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and he's commander in chief and they actively
Speaker 1: support him every day. And so heg Seth has these failures.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't have some failures? Now, fair question. I mean
Speaker 1: as to whether somebody's trustworthy when they've cheated on three
Speaker 1: straight wives, that's a fair question. He's got an explanation
Speaker 1: that he found God and changed his life, and to me,
Speaker 1: that can be an enormously credible, credible you know, defense
Speaker 1: in that situation. Now somebody turns up some other evidence
Speaker 1: that shows, now I look at all this other stuff
Speaker 1: he's still doing. But right now, my hope is that
Speaker 1: he is confirmed for those reasons. Eight five for zero
Speaker 1: five A two five five The number takes d an
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Speaker 2: If you're looking for something to.
Speaker 1: Do tomorrow morning, it's unusual and extraordinarily cool, and I
Speaker 1: bet it will be an absolutely wonderful gathering tomorrow morning,
Speaker 1: ten thirty a m. At the corner of Kendrick Casteeleway,
Speaker 1: that's the old lucent boulevard in Plaza drive out in
Speaker 1: Highland's Ranch is going to be the official ceremony to
Speaker 1: honor one of Colorado's greatest heroes ever, Kendrick Castile And
Speaker 1: how great, how smart to change that name loocent drive
Speaker 1: to Kendrick Castile Way, and it's about time that we
Speaker 1: start honoring the people who should really be honored, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't give you're new to the area.
Speaker 1: You can't get a much bigger hero than Kendrick Castillo,
Speaker 1: wonderful young man from great parents who knowingly lays down
Speaker 1: his life to save his entire classroom from being methodically executed.
Speaker 1: That was the plan of these killers. I've had the
Speaker 1: privilege of representing and missus Castile, and so you know,
Speaker 1: we did more than twenty depositions.
Speaker 2: We got everybody in the earth. We got a bunch
Speaker 2: of documents.
Speaker 1: There is no doubt the plan of these heinous killers
Speaker 1: was to lock out the rescuers and to methodically execute
Speaker 1: every child in that classroom and the teachers. And Kendrick
Speaker 1: Castile stood up to stop that gave his life for it.
Speaker 1: Some other courageous students followed him as he took on
Speaker 1: the shooter. But but that's what was going to happen,
Speaker 1: one by one executed in that classroom, and he saved
Speaker 1: him all and he gave up his life in the process.
Speaker 1: That is the epitome of everything good. Right, It's the
Speaker 1: epitome of a great American, it's the epitome of a
Speaker 1: great Christian. It's the epitome of everything good. And so
Speaker 1: how tremendous that's going to be celebrated and memorialized, you know,
Speaker 1: with the renaming of this street, so that ceremony tomorrow
Speaker 1: morning at ten thirty a m.
Speaker 2: And Colorado needs to do a lot more of that.
Speaker 1: I've never understood this business ryan of naming all this
Speaker 1: big stuff after politicians. I mean, politicians get plenty out
Speaker 1: of being elected officeholders, or else they wouldn't go after it, right,
Speaker 1: So why are we naming the stuff after them instead
Speaker 1: of after true American heroes like Kendrick and people who've died,
Speaker 1: people who've died in law enforcement, people who died in
Speaker 1: the military, heroes from other walks of life. Well, I
Speaker 1: be naming this stuff after politicians, certain politicians, certainly, But
Speaker 1: I would say somebody like DWYG.
Speaker 5: David Eisenhower, who was a legend for myriad reason or
Speaker 5: the least of which she was the commander of the
Speaker 5: Allied forces that delivered freedom from the Nazis and so forth.
Speaker 1: And amen, my brother, I mean you'll have some exceptions, right,
Speaker 1: talk about your garden variety politicians. I'm Kennedy. You know
Speaker 1: his great work during the Cuban missile crisis. I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: And listen, though, are politics differ I like Federico Pina,
Speaker 1: I like him personally, but you know that boulevards should
Speaker 1: not be named after a living former mayor, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 5: But how much political grease did it take to get
Speaker 5: that whole project done? You let's have something to do
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 2: You have the five rus five eight two five five,
Speaker 2: the number there was never end is?
Speaker 1: I remember about Federico and again we disagree on major policy.
Speaker 2: There's never any out to hint of scandal surrounding him.
Speaker 5: Talk at Scan, I'll talk an influence, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, making some promises.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I can't speak to that I because I
Speaker 1: truly don't know and it's been a long time. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying is this big stuff. Unless it's somebody like
Speaker 1: Dwight Eisenhower or something, it neems to be named after
Speaker 1: these other kind of heroes in our midst You're on
Speaker 1: the Dan Capla Show.
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Speaker 7: It's completely, uh shocking to even even write this, and
Speaker 7: the you know, the idea of offering people who have
Speaker 7: not been charged with any crime, there's no even hint
Speaker 7: of committing any crimes pardons because the nature of the
Speaker 7: incoming administration is such that they're pretty open about the
Speaker 7: idea of pursuing a kind of third world model of
Speaker 7: where we come in, we go after the guys. Now,
Speaker 7: I can hear what the Trump folks are gonna say immediately,
Speaker 7: which is he's only doing what they did to us.
Speaker 7: And I think, guys, that's what you'll hear next year
Speaker 7: if the Trump folks do first new these revenge investigations
Speaker 7: or indictments of they started laws their first they indicted
Speaker 7: Trump left and right. We're only keeping the same thing going.
Speaker 7: And you can see it easily right now. Hey, guys,
Speaker 7: that's why this debate is so serious in the White
Speaker 7: House and why they're they're they're taking this, I think
Speaker 7: with some measure of sobriety, even though it is an
Speaker 7: extraordinary precedent to.
Speaker 1: Set obviously no self awareness there for Jonathan Martin, but
Speaker 1: really fascinating, right because when we talked about this yesterday,
Speaker 1: this political story that Biden is considering, among other pardons,
Speaker 1: I mean, we know he's going to pardon his brother,
Speaker 1: right and and but among other pardons Shift and Fouche
Speaker 1: and Liz Cheney and who knows.
Speaker 2: Where else that goes.
Speaker 1: It led to this question, can somebody turn down up pardon?
Speaker 1: So I went and did a little bit of research.
Speaker 1: Now I didn't legally research this the way I do
Speaker 1: my stuff in my law practice, but I did some
Speaker 1: online stuff and it appears to be unanimous that yes,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, absolutely somebody can turn down a pardon.
Speaker 1: And so that's another reason why I so hope he
Speaker 1: pardons all of them, because first of all, to pardon
Speaker 1: them is to convict them, right, And I don't have
Speaker 1: any evidence that any of those people has committed a crime.
Speaker 2: I'm just very very upset with.
Speaker 1: Those people for things they have done on a public
Speaker 1: policy level that have been very damaging to this country
Speaker 1: and causes that I hold dear. But I'm not aware
Speaker 1: that any of them is committed a crime. But I
Speaker 1: don't have access to the information I need to know
Speaker 1: whether they committed a crime. But if they are pardoned,
Speaker 1: they are convicted in the court of public opinion. That
Speaker 1: happens pretty much automatically. I think you'd agree. But then
Speaker 1: you get to the fun part. Do they turn it down?
Speaker 1: And what do you think? Well, ask doctor Fauchi. I
Speaker 1: think he's here right now, aren't you, doctor Fauci.
Speaker 7: If you are offered a pub pardon only if it
Speaker 7: prevents me from ever having to talk to Ram Paul again,
Speaker 7: then I would accept.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm not sure it would get you that.
Speaker 1: In fact, probably the opposite effect, because if you accept
Speaker 1: a pardon, well, then at that point you don't have
Speaker 1: any Fifth Amendment.
Speaker 2: Immunity.
Speaker 1: That because you have immunity, you don't have a Fifth
Speaker 1: Amendment right against self incriminations.
Speaker 5: So if you no longer have to go to the
Speaker 5: Catholic Church because I live my life according to my
Speaker 5: own value.
Speaker 6: Wow, that was and I am the science and who knows.
Speaker 1: One of well those two Yeah, that they just say
Speaker 1: it all, don't they. It's man, no fear of apparently,
Speaker 1: no fear of what's to come after passing away? Right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, So that would be the real fun part
Speaker 1: is then all these people would have to decide whether
Speaker 1: to accept the pardon. And if they accepted the pardon, well,
Speaker 1: then the American people take it to another level. In
Speaker 1: terms of their certainty that some crime was committed. But
Speaker 1: if they reject the pardon, that's pretty impressive. Who do
Speaker 1: you think would accept? Who do you think would reject?
Speaker 1: Eight five five for zero five eight two five five
Speaker 1: text d An five seven seventy nine. You got Fauci,
Speaker 1: you got Shiff, you got Liz Cheney reportedly maybe offered pardons.
Speaker 2: Who accepts, who rejects?
Speaker 5: Doesn't Adam Schiff release a statement saying there's no reason
Speaker 5: for me to receive a pardon and he rejected the
Speaker 5: premis al together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not rejecting the part. No, it's not.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think let's Jenny better take it because she did
Speaker 5: some dirty stuff.
Speaker 6: Dan, I'm talking about the jan sixth.
Speaker 5: Subcommittee, the texts that were deleted, the collusion and the cooperation,
Speaker 5: the communication with and Alexa knows her named the young
Speaker 5: lady that contested that Trump tried to grab the steering wheel,
Speaker 5: this Secret Service officer, which was ridiculous on its face,
Speaker 5: Benny Thompson not apparently not knowing at all what happened
Speaker 5: to a lot of the evidence when confronted by Thomas Massey,
Speaker 5: the video that showed somebody discovering a bomb outside the
Speaker 5: DNC then alerting police. Who was that person? Why do
Speaker 5: we not know who that person is? There's so much
Speaker 5: that went wrong with that subcommittee. It was a total sham.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where, Hey, just my forty years of
Speaker 1: practice in law, my belief is I would need subpoena
Speaker 1: power to get to the bottom of all that. And
Speaker 1: I know the reporting that you're talking about, but I
Speaker 1: wouldn't need subpoena power to really dig in and figure
Speaker 1: out if any of those people had committed a crime.
Speaker 2: I know the reasons.
Speaker 1: I'm extremely upset with them and think they've caused great
Speaker 1: harm to very important causes, But a crime, I would
Speaker 1: need to really be able to dig in and figure
Speaker 1: that out.
Speaker 2: Text or Dan, are you serious?
Speaker 1: Federico Pina was one of the most corrupt and partisan
Speaker 1: politicians in Colorado history. Listen, and again we disagree on
Speaker 1: the big issues. I'm not aware of any corruption on
Speaker 1: Federico Payne part. And the reason this came up if
Speaker 1: you just joined us, is I'm talking about why are
Speaker 1: we naming stuff after politicians instead of, you know, like
Speaker 1: this great thing that's being done. Kender Castile way out
Speaker 1: in Highland's ranch. That's the right thing to do. That's
Speaker 1: being officially commemorated tomorrow. That's a beautiful thing. But should
Speaker 1: we take politicians names off stuff?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And again my point was, I'd like Federico Pina personally,
Speaker 1: disagree with him on policy, not aware of any corruption,
Speaker 1: but I don't think his name should be on that boulevard.
Speaker 1: I think it should be, you know, some somebody from
Speaker 1: everyday life who was a tremendous hero. And that can
Speaker 1: be somebody who gave their life for US police, fire, military,
Speaker 1: it can be somebody else, but it politicians.
Speaker 2: Should be the last people this stuff's named after.
Speaker 5: You ever driven through West Virginia, Dan, I got a
Speaker 5: real bad nominee for you.
Speaker 2: How about Robert C.
Speaker 5: Byrd Highway in West Virginia?
Speaker 6: Cyclass.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, It's interesting because the left is so big on
Speaker 1: taking names off stuff of people they don't like. But
Speaker 1: but shouldn't just as a general rule, shouldn't we take
Speaker 1: the politicians' names off everything? Now? And unless you're talking
Speaker 1: at Dwight Eisenower, right or something like that, shouldn't we
Speaker 1: just take the politician's name off? And who else would
Speaker 1: you name stuff after?
Speaker 6: But on the same stretch of highway you got kender Castille.
Speaker 6: But then also Dave Sanders.
Speaker 2: Oh those lines, yes, and we were probably involved in
Speaker 2: part of that.
Speaker 1: But sure, but yeah, what politicians' names would you take
Speaker 1: off things right now?
Speaker 2: Like we have that all over Colorado right now. And
Speaker 2: if you are going to have politicians names on stuff,
Speaker 2: then you should have bill Owens highway sense?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine as bad as I twenty five is
Speaker 1: what it would look like if Bill Owens had not
Speaker 1: pushed through that project?
Speaker 2: Here on the Dan Kapsa show.
Speaker 6: You're listening to the Dan Kaplas show. Podcas asked Thursday afternoon,
Speaker 6: Dean and Arvada.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kaplas. You'll welcome.
Speaker 9: Dan. Hey, I was telling about all these pardons.
Speaker 10: I mean, where does it stop. Could he just pardon
Speaker 10: Jack Smith, Merrick Darland, all of the Jacksmith committee?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean.
Speaker 10: Everybody that worked on the Jack Smith case. Could they
Speaker 10: all be pardoned? I mean, it doesn't make sense that
Speaker 10: you can pardon someone that hasn't committed a crime.
Speaker 1: It seems like, oh, interesting question, Dean, yea, have the
Speaker 1: loss well established on that?
Speaker 2: You can?
Speaker 1: I mean you can you can pardon somebody before, say
Speaker 1: they're charged with the crime. Now what, let me take
Speaker 1: that back a little bit, my friend, tech, you are correct,
Speaker 1: you cannot pardon somebody before they commit a crime. You
Speaker 1: can only pardon them for crimes they've already committed. But
Speaker 1: you can pardon them before they are charged with the crime.
Speaker 9: So you could pardon them like without like, well, we
Speaker 9: don't know if they're going to be charged, so we'll
Speaker 9: just pardon them now.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: So you're pardoning somebody for all crimes committed between a
Speaker 1: certain and within a certain time period, or you can
Speaker 1: limit it and you can say okay, like with Hunter Biden,
Speaker 1: you could have said, okay, he's pardoned for the two
Speaker 1: federal client crimes that he was convicted of, but instead,
Speaker 1: obviously Joe Biden pardons them for any federal offense he
Speaker 1: committed from twenty fourteen forward. Wow.
Speaker 2: What a coincidence.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but it gets to your interesting pointing that
Speaker 1: you can in fact pardon people who have not committed
Speaker 1: any crime, but you have to pardon them up to
Speaker 1: the present point in time. You can't pardon them for
Speaker 1: any future crime.
Speaker 11: Wow.
Speaker 9: So I mean jacksonifs could get.
Speaker 2: Pardoned, Oh, he could pardon anybody wants.
Speaker 1: But then the fun starts, right do they accept the
Speaker 1: pardon or not? Because a pardon has to be accepted,
Speaker 1: a pardon can be rejected.
Speaker 9: Oh, they're going to take those pardons. They're going to go.
Speaker 9: I don't want to be in trouble later. I'll just
Speaker 9: take my my, my beating.
Speaker 10: Uh, because Congress isn't gonna call him in, Like, why
Speaker 10: are we going to wait time with this guy?
Speaker 9: He's already parted my brother.
Speaker 1: I would bet you the biggest stake in town that
Speaker 1: if Liz Cheney was pardoned, that she would reject that.
Speaker 10: Pardon and fat politics.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, even if somebody doesn't have a future
Speaker 1: in politics, and I don't see one for her. But uh,
Speaker 1: but but just your reputation, your your personal pride, et cetera.
Speaker 1: If you're sitting there and you know you have not
Speaker 1: committed any crime and you are now offered a pardon,
Speaker 1: you know, the second that you accept that pardon, it's
Speaker 1: like admitting you committed a crime, no matter what you say,
Speaker 1: no matter how you try to cover it. So now,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, obviously somebody has to be weighing, well,
Speaker 1: I may be charged and then even if I'm acquitted later,
Speaker 1: I've I've you know, spent all the money I have,
Speaker 1: and people still think I'm guilty.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to weigh.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I would bet you what do you
Speaker 1: think of those three that are being discussed in the
Speaker 1: political story. They say that the Biden administration is thinking
Speaker 1: about a Fauci Cheney shift. Which of those three do
Speaker 1: you think accepts a pardon.
Speaker 9: Fauchi for sure, he's too old, he doesn't want to
Speaker 9: go through anymore. Hell, so he's gonna take it. Pardon well.
Speaker 1: And if and I underline, if any of the three
Speaker 1: committed a crime, I think he's the most likely to
Speaker 1: have committed a crime. If if he did so, I
Speaker 1: think he's the one who would need.
Speaker 2: To pardon most.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Paul's got him on a few things.
Speaker 1: No, he you know, I can see where he'd have
Speaker 1: some cause for concern. I'm not going all the way
Speaker 1: to saying that that Fauci has committed a crime, but
Speaker 1: I think he'd be most likely.
Speaker 9: To take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, appreciate the call. Man.
Speaker 1: This this is so fascinating, and we know there are
Speaker 1: going to be a bunch of other pardons, Right, Biden
Speaker 1: is certainly pardoning his brother. And where else is all
Speaker 1: of this going to go? And who do you think?
Speaker 1: Who do you think crime? If anybody in this whole
Speaker 1: cast of characters on the left is actually seeking a
Speaker 1: preemptive pardon, I think you'd have some who turn.
Speaker 6: It down, maybe Fauci.
Speaker 2: But it gets to this point you're making it.
Speaker 5: Can he pardon somebody ahead of not only they haven't
Speaker 5: been convicted of a crime, they haven't been charged, they've
Speaker 5: been investigated.
Speaker 6: There hasn't been interesting launched.
Speaker 5: So what does the pardon mean?
Speaker 1: Well, what it means is that, yeah, you cannot be
Speaker 1: prosecuted for any federal crime you committed during that time period.
Speaker 2: If the pardon has written that broadly.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, that's been challengeable though in a court of law.
Speaker 5: Constitutionally, no, Well, how can he give a blanket pardon
Speaker 5: to Hunter Biden dating back to a specific date ten
Speaker 5: plus years ago, almost eleven years ago.
Speaker 2: He could date it back to birth, Okay, yeah, but
Speaker 2: he can.
Speaker 5: Not any specific crimes that have been proven that have
Speaker 5: been convicted in the court of law for which Hunter
Speaker 5: was sentenced, which would be the tax evasion charges and
Speaker 5: the gun charges.
Speaker 2: Charged uncharged, which may have been committed. It's like the
Speaker 2: power of a king.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, and obviously we give, you know,
Speaker 1: presidents certain vast and broad powers.
Speaker 5: Well even Democrats who've seen Jerry Connolly, who's no conservative,
Speaker 5: he's a pretty far left Democrat out of Virginia saying,
Speaker 5: you know what, we need to revisit this whole presidential
Speaker 5: pardon power and how broad it is. Kind of to
Speaker 5: your point, I think if it's too broad, it's too
Speaker 5: it's too much power to give one individual. I think
Speaker 5: for specific offense. Let's say Rod big legoyeving Trump pardon
Speaker 5: that was for a specific crime he committee served time
Speaker 5: for Bobby kill kill Patrick.
Speaker 6: The former mayor of Detroit, same thing, it.
Speaker 5: Was some fraudulent charges, fraud charges that he had been
Speaker 5: convicted for, and those are specific crimes.
Speaker 2: How would you draw that though?
Speaker 1: I understand the desire to rein it in, but how
Speaker 1: would you do that without undermining the core purpose? Now,
Speaker 1: certainly alon and it may already exist that if if
Speaker 1: somebody takes money in exchange for a pardon, the pardons invalidate. Jeff,
Speaker 1: that law doesn't already exist, it should, But I think
Speaker 1: the attitude is that, hey, the political process will take
Speaker 1: care of that if you get somebody who's abusing it,
Speaker 1: which is one reason I love all this rhyme because,
Speaker 1: as I was saying down the stretch in the election, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so critical that Trump win, and thank god that happened.
Speaker 2: But even before.
Speaker 1: Election, I was saying, but we also have to expose
Speaker 1: the left for who they really are in order to
Speaker 1: undermine support for the Democratic Party, and so that the
Speaker 1: more of this, you know, I'm above the lost stuff
Speaker 1: from Biden and the Democrats, the more Pardons, etc.
Speaker 2: The more it's going to hurt the Democratic.
Speaker 1: Party and the easier for Republicans to win in the
Speaker 1: mid terms. Let's go to beautiful Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2: Gary. You're on the Dan Caplis Show. Thank you, hello, Dan.
Speaker 12: How are you today?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: But let me pass along this newest bit of news
Speaker 1: breaking news on this New York CEO assassin, which just
Speaker 1: can firms my initial take that he wants to be
Speaker 1: caught and whether he's still alive or not, he wants
Speaker 1: to be identified. The latest news breaking right now is
Speaker 1: the picture of him when he's photographed full face, is
Speaker 1: when he lowered his mask to flirt with a woman
Speaker 1: at the front.
Speaker 2: Desk of the hostel he was staying at.
Speaker 1: And by the way, he traveled to New York ten
Speaker 1: days ago on a bus from Atlanta. So what do
Speaker 1: you make of that, Gary, What were you calling on,
Speaker 1: my friend?
Speaker 12: Well, I'm calling on the naming of highways and byways
Speaker 12: of this great country. So the week before Thanksgiving, I
Speaker 12: was driving across this great country. Happened to be in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 12: They came across the Joseph R. Biden Expressway and the
Speaker 12: traffic was moving so slow. I turned to my ten
Speaker 12: year old granddaughter and I said, well, they appropriately named
Speaker 12: this highway.
Speaker 2: That's a dead joke.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it is a bad joke.
Speaker 9: But I'll tell you what it's.
Speaker 12: Know, if we're ever going to get away from naming
Speaker 12: highways after presidents, that happens.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm okay with presidents, aren't you? What? What what?
Speaker 9: I'm not?
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 1: And again I have no beef with Federic opinion. I
Speaker 1: liked him, disagreed on policy, but Panya Boulevards shouldn't be
Speaker 1: named after a living former politician, not at that level,
Speaker 1: I mean a president after he's passed away.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, Dan, I think, well, President Vibes not quite
Speaker 12: passed away.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. I hear you,
Speaker 2: my friend.
Speaker 11: That on to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Joseph or bideny way, Well, well, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of this stuff should be named after
Speaker 1: living politicians it and then presidents once they passed. But
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get the naming things
Speaker 1: after local politicians. Some may be deserving, that's not my point.
Speaker 1: But my point is is that there are other people
Speaker 1: more deserving, and there are only so many things you
Speaker 1: can name and who really works for home?
Speaker 2: Right? I mean, none of the very very very.
Speaker 1: Few of these people would be in politics if they
Speaker 1: weren't getting enough personal satisfaction and reward out of it.
Speaker 1: You know, how about just all the Americans who do
Speaker 1: these extraordinary sacrificial things and lay down their lives for others. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's who we should be naming stuff after. And what
Speaker 1: spurred this conversation today is they're doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: In Highlands Ranch, one of the greatest Colorado heroes in history,
Speaker 1: Kendrick Castillo. Major Street used to be Loosing Boulevard being
Speaker 1: named after Kendrick Castillo and the formal dedication is tomorrow.
Speaker 2: That's the way to do it. So what do you think?
Speaker 1: What stuff should we be taking politicians' names off of
Speaker 1: right now and renaming after others.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Caplas.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, how courageous to speak out. Mike and Bennett, Colorado.
Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Capel Show. I got excited for
Speaker 1: a second. I thought it said Michael Bennett, who has
Speaker 1: dodged this show for decades.
Speaker 11: Thanks, thanks Dan.
Speaker 9: Thanks it's not Michael Bennett.
Speaker 13: I was going to ask you, what is the ramification
Speaker 13: If somebody gets pardoned, you say that that admitting guilt
Speaker 13: and if you have a House of Representative or a
Speaker 13: senator that is admitting guilt to a crime, if they
Speaker 13: usually remove you from your position or put enough pressure
Speaker 13: on you to bow out, how does that work?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for that question.
Speaker 1: I don't mean admitting guilt in a technical legal sense.
Speaker 1: I mean in the court of public opinion. I think
Speaker 1: if somebody has offered a pardon and accepts it the
Speaker 1: way the public interprets that is as an admission of guilt,
Speaker 1: but legally no, there would be no admission of guilt,
Speaker 1: no negative legal consequence. Now let me have one thing, Mike,
Speaker 1: and this this is a little in the weeds. There
Speaker 1: is one negative legal consequence because if you accept a pardon,
Speaker 1: then you lose your Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination
Speaker 1: on issues directly pertaining to some of that. So you
Speaker 1: may be forced to testify, say some investigations, grand jury hearings,
Speaker 1: et cetera, where you might otherwise take the Fifth.
Speaker 11: Okay, Well, that I was referring to Adam Sift. Yeah,
Speaker 11: because now he's going to be a senator, right, Yes,
Speaker 11: he takes the pardon like there'd be a lot of
Speaker 11: pressure on him to to come to some kind of
Speaker 11: hearing the answer for his behavior.
Speaker 2: Boy, you would think so.
Speaker 1: But in California, right, you get elected as a Democrat
Speaker 1: in California, you're just kind of electorally bulletproof. So no,
Speaker 1: with with Adam Scheff, right, it's it'd be interesting to
Speaker 1: see if he took it or not. But we may
Speaker 1: soon found out, right based on what politicals are reporting.
Speaker 1: Great questions, Mike, thank you for that. Really do appreciate it.
Speaker 1: If you just joined us, thank you. It's been an
Speaker 1: amazing day. If we started out and af throughout the
Speaker 1: show brought to the latest on.
Speaker 2: The CEO killer in New York.
Speaker 1: Clearly, as we said yesterday, you know, wants to be caught,
Speaker 1: wants to be identified at the very least, and presumably
Speaker 1: wants to be then caught if he's still alive, you know,
Speaker 1: because he only had half a mask on at the
Speaker 1: time of this saint his crime, and now there's a
Speaker 1: full face photo available because he took his mask off
Speaker 1: at the youth hostel. He was staying to flirt with
Speaker 1: a clerk at the front counter stop by Starbucks for
Speaker 1: a while before bought some you know, energy bars and
Speaker 1: water at a Starbucks before he went and committed this
Speaker 1: terrible killing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we will know who he is very very
Speaker 2: very soon.
Speaker 1: But the biggest news of the day the shellcasing is
Speaker 1: found at the scene, you know that to deny defend
Speaker 1: depos which would suggest that the motive was tied to
Speaker 1: denial of an insurance claim. But that could be a
Speaker 1: misdirection play, right because it's so obvious, or it could
Speaker 1: be the true motive. Information CNN reporting that he wrote
Speaker 1: a bus up from Atlanta ten days ago to New
Speaker 1: York and then stayed in this youth hostel with two males,
Speaker 1: no reporting on whether those were people he knew previously
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: So that the latest drying.
Speaker 1: If you had to bet your young life at this
Speaker 1: point on what the motive is here, what actually happened,
Speaker 1: what would that be.
Speaker 5: I think this is an aggrieved person with delusions that
Speaker 5: was going to take out the CEO by going straight
Speaker 5: to the top, or a claim that he was not
Speaker 5: able to get and he feels he got ripped off.
Speaker 2: I think it might be as basic as that.
Speaker 1: You know, honestly, if you're betting the house, that's probably
Speaker 1: from what we know now what's on the table, that's
Speaker 1: probably a pretty smart bet. And then I think the
Speaker 1: question becomes was it just made to look that way
Speaker 1: to cover some other motive? Since his CEO currently under
Speaker 1: investigation reportedly by CNN under investigation by DJ for alleged
Speaker 1: insider trading, was there some other motive there? You know?
Speaker 1: I hope, I expect we will find out in the
Speaker 1: end here what really went on there? Hey, really appreciate
Speaker 1: the time today. Heck of a lot going on tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Hope you're with us tomorrow at four oh six. All
Speaker 1: Ryan tremendous job is always. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: I hope you catch Ryan show does an excellent show
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