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your support. So I mentioned in the last hour, and

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I will reset the table here for the third hour

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for those listening on the podcast. The News and Observer,

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in the Charlotte Observer, the McClatchy Papers, they did a

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story Danielle Battaglia reported on some comments that US Senator

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Tom Tillis made at a Senate hearing that occurred yesterday,

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and Tom Tillis said he wants Homeland Security to provide

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him with the full list of people who were detained,

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how long they were detained, whether they were released, and

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what property was damaged of theirs during their arrest, and

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whether or not they've been provided any proper restitution. I

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have no problem with that information being demanded or provided

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I'm fine. I gave the analogy of the body cams

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being worn by law enforcement. Totally fine with it. But

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there was a line here when she said that he

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said this during a hearing of the Senate Committee on

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the Judiciary, and he said he believes border patrol is

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now in his state because Sheriff Gary not my fault.

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Macfedden used sanctuary city policy. So last hour because then

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she says, well, you know, sanctuary cities were banned by

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the state legislature, and they were because of the actions

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of cities like Charlotte and others, right, So you guys

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were doing this stuff and it prompted the state to

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say no, stop doing this stuff, although Charlotte is a

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certified welcoming city. And I went over all of that

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in the last hour, but I was unaware that there

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was this Senate committee meeting yesterday. So I went to

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the YouTube and I found I found the hearing. It

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only ran an hour and a half and Democrats boycotted it.

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Democrats refused to attend this hearing, which was on ice.

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It was it was about this very thing. They had

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brought in a couple of or three people actually as

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witnesses and one of whom is Sheriff Roy Boyd from

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Goliad County, Texas that is located in the southwest part

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of the state. It's halfway between Laredo and Houston. Okay,

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I have his opening statement here, and he is going

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to map it out for all of you lunatics on

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the left that are out there saying like, oh my gosh,

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you're just you know, detaining people that haven't done anything

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in all of this. He's going to map it out

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for you. This is way bigger than just you know,

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the guy cutting your grass or hanging Christmas lights on

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the front yard. This is way bigger. He's going to

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map it out here.

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Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm here to discuss the current situation with

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the Guards law enforcement and the enforcement of the laws,

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and more specifically, the implementation of the two eighty seven

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g Task Force model and the need to expand the

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program and change our model of conducting law enforcement operations

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across the United States of America. Here's why these efforts

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are important to the future of our nation and the

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safety of our citizens. While illegal immigration has been a

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historical issue along the US Mexico border, this changed more

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than a decade ago when the cartels seized control of

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the border regions in Mexico and change their business model

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to include smuggling of people. When that and the cartels

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began controlling who came across the border and began torturing

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and killing anyone who attempted to violate their control by

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crossing into the US without paying the cartels.

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Speaker 1: Did you have it? They started torturing and murdering anybody

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who didn't use the cartels, which then locked down a

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market monopoly.

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Speaker 2: This control gave rise to a new way for the

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cartels to conduct business throughout the United States and beyond.

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In Mexico, the federal government leases territories to criminal organizations

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and what they refer to as the plaza system, the

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Mexican government allows cartels to conduct limited smuggling and trafficking

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activities in exchange for a monthly fee, with any activity

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above and beyond requiring additional payments to government officials as

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attacks on excess illicit commerce.

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Speaker 1: The Mexican government is protecting these corridors under a plaza system,

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and then they're collecting revenue from the cartels. So there

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was a financial incentive for the Mexican government to keep

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these corridors open.

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Speaker 2: The cartels have replicated this Mexican government's program and with

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geographic control throughout the United States. I've witnessed this firsthand

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when I was the chief deputy for Victoria County Sheriff's Office,

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which is next door to Goliad. The Golf Cartel took

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control of the cocaine trade in Victoria and surrounding counties.

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They then leased the sole distribution rights for the dealing

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of pure cocaine to the Houston chapter of the Mexican Mafia.

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The Golf Cartel then sent out people onto the streets

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to tell the other dealers that unless they were authorized

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distributors of pure cocaine, they would have to cut their

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product by at least fifty percent with inert material.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Inert material may include probably stuff

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not good for it, not that cocaine as But this

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is a franchise model, right. We are going to be

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the only ones that allow one hundred percent pure coke.

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Anybody else you got to cut it fifty to fifty.

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We don't care what else is in it, but it

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can't be anything more than fifty percent pure, which means

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people aren't going to want to buy from you. Right,

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If they want the best quality, they're going to have

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to come to us, the Golf Cartel and our dealers.

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And it's not just dealers. You have to have distribution logistics, right,

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You need people, You need places to operate out of.

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Do you see where this is going. It requires employees,

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It requires people to participate in various ways in the

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business model. Right. If you stop thinking of it as

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a crime syndicate, which it is, but if you stop

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thinking of it more like less as a criminal enterprise

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but more of a business model, you can see where

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this is going.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: After operations were underway, the cartel sent people back out

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on the streets to purchase cocaine from non authorized distributors

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for the purpose of testing the product for purity. If

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the cocaine was without inert product, the dealer was given

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a warning about violating the cartel's control of the product

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within the plaza. During this time, we began to receive

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word from local cocaine dealers that local cocaine dealers were disappearing.

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Many families were not reporting their missing loved ones to

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the authorities out of fear of retribution from the cartel

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and the Mexican mafia. In total. Our contacts on the

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streets advised that at least ten drug dealers had refused

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to dilute their product and had been disappeared, never to

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be seen again.

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Speaker 1: This is in America. This is how they're taking control

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of this market.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: They show up at your door like you're not authorized

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by us to deal some of your product. They test it.

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That's too pure, and now they take you off and

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murder you, chop your body up, bury you in a

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ditch someplace.

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Speaker 2: Only one family went public and sought justice for their son.

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We never found him or discovered what became of him.

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More his remains. The other aspect of this new business

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model is that cartels began using illegal aliens smuggled into

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the United States as part of their logistic workforce. When

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people are smuggled into the US, they must pay a

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fee of the cartels in order to gain safe passage

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in our area. Most illegal aliens are smuggled into Houston

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for transport across the eastern half of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Let me stop there for a minute. Do you remember

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the Maryland man, the guy who got busted. He was

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picked up in Tennessee or had stopped in Tennessee. Remember

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he had a van full of illegal aliens and he

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said he was driving from Houston back up to the

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Maryland area. And he's working on some jobs or something.

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That's their main transport corridor. That's what he's doing. He's

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moving personnel around for the cartels. You know, stories are powerful.

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regarding the Democrats who boycotted this hearing, I have no

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doubt that some of them who didn't show up for

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that hearing are taken the plata. Yeah, all right, So

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this is again Sheriff Roy Boyd from Goliad County, Texas,

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mapping out the way that the cartels took control of

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the human smuggling corridors through Texas or through Mexico. Rather,

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they pay the Mexican government to allow this to occur,

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and by controlling that human smuggling corridor, they can smuggle

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people because you got to remember, people are just a

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commodity to the cartels, just like cocaine or fentanyl or anything.

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It's what was the big one, he said, he'll say

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it here, you'll hear it, but he says, the human smuggling.

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It's putting people into their business model and they need

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people to then fan out across America and help them

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run their operations. And these are people that are threatened

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with death of themselves or of family members or something

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if they don't help, if they don't comply.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's in Houston. They are given the final amount

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that they owe the cartels and their contractors for being here.

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From there, the illegal aliens end up in various forms

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of indentured servitude across our nation. However, as part of

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that obligation of the cartels, these people have to be

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willing to provide labor and other services to pay off

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their final.

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Speaker 1: Debt indentured servitude to the cartels. You on the left

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that have been promoting amnesty, open borders, all this stuff,

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you do not occupy an ethical high ground here. Okay,

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you are advocating a system that puts people into indentured

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servitude to cartels. That's what you're doing, and you have

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been doing. I find it grotesque. You're not going to

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shame me, you know, you're not going to be able

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to say, oh, look at you. You don't care about

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these people. Who cares about the people?

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Speaker 3: Me?

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Speaker 1: Who says, shut this all down, break up all of

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this model, get these people free from the cartels. Prevent

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people from getting into the pipeline in the first place.

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Where if they are young and female, they will be abused.

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They'll be molested and raped along the way as payment

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for getting access into America. I'm the bad guy in

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that scenario, or are you the bad guy? Are you

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the morally bankrupt person that is trying to make some

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argument that I should want cheaper landscaping and if a

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couple thousand girls need to be raped at the border,

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so be it. That's not a morally superior position. It

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never has been, and that's why these Democrats didn't show

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up at this hearing today.

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Speaker 2: We have interviewed many illegal aliens who have been smuggled

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into Texas during our investigations. What we found is that

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some will pay off the debt with money over a

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period of eight to thirteen years. Some will pay off

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the debt by smuggling other illegal aliens or drugs into.

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Speaker 1: The United States Maryland Man.

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Speaker 2: Some will move illegal aliens and drugs from one area

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of the interior to another. Others will be placed in

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a forced prostitution or will be called upon to provide

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material support and the unloading or moving of drugs in

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the areas in which they reside. If you think these

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indentured people can just decide not to cooperate once they

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are here. That is not the case. The cartels have

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a vast intelligence network and keep records of the people

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they smuggle, to include family member information. Have had illegal

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aliens involved in criminal activity tell me that they had

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no choice but to commit criminal acts in order to

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prevent their family members from being placed into bondage and

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doing unspeakable acts in their home countries. What this means

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is that millions of illegal aliens now residing in the

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United States are part of the logistical support operations for

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illicit cartel activities throughout our country.

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Speaker 1: By the way, imagine a scenario where somebody, maybe you,

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you make this journey and the cartel says, hey, you

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know what, we're going to move you through, but you're

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going to pay us this money, and when we get

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you to Charlotte, you're going to help us do this

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illegal work. You're going to help us with our logistics.

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You're going to make some drop offs, pickups, whatever. So

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now you've got to pay off this debt for eight

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to thirteen years in Charlotte. You can't go back, right,

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you can't go back to your like, Okay, I'm going

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to go back home. Can't do that now because you

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owe them this debt, and you're not going to go

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back to the place voluntarily because then they'll kill you

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in your family. But what if you got de ported.

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That's not your fault. You got swept up and they

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sent you. The US government caught you and they sent

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you back. That's not your fault. Look, I even tried

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to run. I tried to ram the vehicle with my

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own vehicle. I tried, I tried to get away, but

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they caught me. Is that actually a way out of

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the bondage? See, if you start thinking the way the

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cartel thinks, you start thinking the way a true victim

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of the cartels abuse things. You start thinking like that,

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then some of these operations don't look quite the same.

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Speaker 2: If our goal is to dismantle cartel operations in the

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United States, we must never be able. We will never

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be able to do so unless we deny them the

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logistical capacity conduct business and a manner that generates an

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acceptable stream of revenue to be moved from the United

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States into their home countries. In order to take the

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initiative and what can only be deemed is asymmetrical warfare

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against the cartels, and their business partners. Law enforcement must

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change their mindset, must change their methodology. We must look

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at what we have been doing in the past and

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ask if the billions of dollars we have spent are

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accomplishing the primary goals of the missions of the programs implemented.

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In most cases, I will speculate that with an honest assessment,

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we will find that most of the federal dollars being

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pumped into law enforcement programs is remaining in urban areas

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where expense versus real and is not in balance. According

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to ICE dot gov, as of November fourteenth, twenty twenty five,

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there were one thousand, one hundred and sixty seven local

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and state law enforcement agencies in forty states that had

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signed memorandums of agreement for the at least one of

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the two eighty seven g programs. Only six hundred and

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five of those agreements are for the participation of the

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task force model, which is a model that allows local

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and state law enforcement to conduct field immigration enforcement under

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the supervision of ICE. With more than eighteen thousand local

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law enforcement agencies in the US, six hundred and five

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agencies assisting ICE in the field is insufficient.

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Speaker 1: This isn't even he's not so what he's talking about.

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The task force model. That's not even what we had

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in Mecklimber County that our sheriff got rid of. That

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was just identifying people that came through the jail. That's it.

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It's just identifying them and then letting ice know, hey,

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come get this guy there illegal. The task force model

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is a separate two eighty seven G structure, and only

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about half of the agencies across the country that are

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participating in the two eighty seven G program are part

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of that task force model. He wants that number to

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Sheriff Roy Boyd from Goliad County, Texas, Okay talking about

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the human smuggling being used to support the logistical operations

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and that law enforcement in America needs to rethink the

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way we are combating.

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Speaker 2: This to hinder the profit margin of the cartels. If

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we are to succeed in this monumental task. This effort

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of defeating the cartels, we must restructure our law enforcement efforts.

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We must disregard those who stand in the way of change,

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ignore the anti American median media outlets working against the

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interests of Americans, and create a new chain of command

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and organizational structure that allows it for the synergy throughout

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full spectrum of law enforcement and streamlines the functionality in

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a manner that demands results and accountability, while ensuring funds

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are being utilized in accordance with their intended purpose. This

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purpose must be to defund and prosecute organize criminal activity

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throughout America, which will not happen if we fail to

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enforce our immigration laws and deport those who have violated

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our sovereignty and have placed themselves at the disposal of

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organizations who victimize our citizens.

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Speaker 1: All right, And then he did say later on he

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called it a national security of the high issue, of

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the highest order. Then there was Mia Cathell, investigative journalist

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at the Washington Examiner.

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Speaker 3: When the uprisings against Ice erupted on the West coast

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in June, we saw uniform signage, tactical gear and boots

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on the ground. Activists deployed to Los Angeles, the epicenter

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of the unrest, almost instantaneously. These certainly were not spontaneous riots.

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They were well coordinated and in fact well funded. What

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we uncovered was an orchestrated operation, and those at the

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forefront of the anti ICE resistance have received ample funding.

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Chief among them is the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights

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of Los Angeles or CHURLA for short. CHURLA, a five

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oh one c three nonprofit as part of a sprawling

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anti ICE activist network in the Los Angeles area. Serving

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as rapid response to deportation sightings, CHURLA instructs its followers

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via blue Sky to report ICE encounters to Los Angeles

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Rapid Response Network abbreviated LAUREN. CHURLA co founded Lauren and

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late January with the expressed intent to counter the incoming

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Trump administration's immigration policies. Here's how it works. In response

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to reports of immigration enforcement called in over its hotline,

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Lauren sends out sales comprised of immigration lawyers, legal observers,

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and activist organizers in order to mobilize counter efforts against ICE.

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This rapid response model is replicated elsewhere across the country

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using crowdsourced surveillance software, some quite sophisticated or simply social media,

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to track ICE activity in the region and alert activists

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as well as illegal immigrants, to nearby ICE agents. CHARLA

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has acquired its funding from federal and state sources pay

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According to churla's tax filing from fiscal twenty twenty three,

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the group reported receiving about thirty four million dollars in

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government grants unreal. In its capacity as a legal services provider,

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CHURLA helps illegal immigrants, including those convicted of crimes, avoid deportation.

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Grant records show that Homeland Security, the very agency Churlist Protesting,

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has awarded the anti deportation group several six figure grants

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since twenty fourteen as part of an immigration aid program

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that financially supports organizations actively working to remove barriers to naturalization.

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CHARLA has also received generous taxpayer funding from the State

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of California. In twenty twenty three, the state's Department of

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Social Services awarded CHURLA about three million dollars for an

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initiative providing free legal services to immigrants, such as application

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assistance and cases seeking immigration remedies. City's deportation relief. In

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twenty twenty two, Charla received one point three seven million

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dollars from California's Social Services Department, specifically to provide pro

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bono defense services and removal proceedings. Charlie's deportation team, nicknamed

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Warriors for Justice, was bankrolled by the Los angele Less

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Justice Fund, a public private partnership between liberal grant making foundations,

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the City of Los Angeles and Los Angeles County. These

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grantees formed a removal defense pipeline in the county. Another

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far left agitator group fomenting anti ICE unrest is the

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foreign funded Party for Socialism and Liberation. The chapters mass

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mobilize their forces and major US cities, many of them

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so called sanctuaries or Saint Haven's, welcoming illegal immigration. At

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the time of the Los Angeles riots, PSL activated its

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followers from all corners of the country to take to

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the streets, rise up in solidarity, stage parallel protests, and

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force ICE out of LA, a rallying cry that has

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since been repurposed for cities targeted by federal immigration authorities.

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San Antonio Arm explained to local press at the time

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that the more cities that opposed ICE operations. Through these

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pressure campaigns, the more difficult a federal crackdown becomes. PSL chapters,

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such as the ones operating in Washington, d C. And Milwaukee,

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continued to convene ICE out rallies to stop the raids.

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Most recently, PSL laden Emergency March in Charlotte, where activists

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were seen waving Mexican flags to drive out border patrol

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and quote defeat the deportation machine. PSL Charlotte began circulating

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call to action material days before Border Patrol made landfall

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in North Carolina. A coalition of local and national organizations

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sponsored the protests, including fifty to fifty one, one of

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the organizers behind the nationwide No King's Movement. An individually checked,

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these powerful actors work in tandem to advance agendas harmful

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to the safety and security of the nation. Their shared

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objective is to obstruct the enforcement of US immigration law

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legislation that Congress enacted. Simply put, the men and women

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of ICE are law enforcement officers passed with carrying out

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their congressionally mandated duties. They are under increasing threat of

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targeted attacks and hostile demonstrations that often devolve into violent

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clashes at this rate, I fear more political violences to

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come unless federal officers take further steps to protect our

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federal officers.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Charla has a fundraising campaign on

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the platform Act Blue, and that's probably why Democrats boycotted

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this hearing. All right, if you're listening to this show,

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Speaker 4: It's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: So you caught the last bit there of this journalist

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from the Washington Examiner. There was a Senate hearing yesterday

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about these things, and Democrats boycotted it, right, and it

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didn't get any coverage like in our local media, sure

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state media. I haven't seen anybody do anything about it,

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which I think would be kind of important given that's

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what we've been sort of talking about Charlotte almost exclusively

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for a week now. Are you surprised at that level

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of coordination that she laid out? No, not at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean really not at all, because look, the Democratic

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Party was put together as a slave party, and let's

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be honest about that. Yeah, and what do we have

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that the Democrats are defending now, that is slaves coming

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into the United States, men, women, children, whatever, And so

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they're being right on brand.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's right.

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Speaker 4: It shouldn't even be called Charlotte's Web. It should just

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be called the old the old South tradition, which is

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DEM's gonamn, DEM's gonna demn. And so you know that

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everybody knows that. And you have a bunch of people

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who I think that this is just Brett Woodable saying it.

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Not Pete Callander, I believe that there is a large

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constituency in the House, in the Senate who is getting

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paid by the cartels period full style.

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Speaker 1: I had, I had a message that I read earlier

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someone said that exact same.

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Speaker 4: Thing, because it's the only reason why these these people

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have such high, fullut and high end lifestyles. I mean,

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where do you get this mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying so it's not the really good stock trading. No,

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it's not the well that's part of it. That's part

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of it.

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Speaker 4: But the other part of it is, you know, people

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are people are getting donations to their to their offices.

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Like Luke Swallwell just announced that he's going to run

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for the governorship of California. He has zero chance, but

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that dude's got some questionable practices that he's done. It's

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maybe coming from Asia, but it's it's something totally different.

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When I grew I grew up in I grew up

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in the desert, I grew up in El Paso. I

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was there for a long time, and we where we lived.

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The very first time we were there, was was the

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all the Feds were up on the hill right right

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right above us, and they were they were trying to

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target all this kind of stuff and fight all this stuff.

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But that was pre Cartel's I mean, meaning the gunfights

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and the things like that. They managed it like you

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would to mafia.

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Speaker 1: And and then it just exploded.

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Speaker 4: And it's just it's really it's really sad to see

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that people will tolerate, you know, what they will, which

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is slavery. I mean, it's it's still happening.

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Speaker 1: Well, and there are people, I am sure, and I

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see them online and I know some people who have

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you know, they they go for the empathy, right, they're

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susceptible to it. And I talked about this suicidal empathy

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earlier in the show too. But you know, they their

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heartstrings get tugged by who by the you know, chasing

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this poor person down, sending him back to his home country.

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It's just here to make a living, provide for his family.

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Wasn't breaking any look except for of course coming in illegally,

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maybe some documents fraud or something. But right, but what

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you don't know is is that person's actual story. Right.

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The media may tell you he was just a marilynd Man,

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just a marilynd Man, absolutely, but his backstory, he might

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actually be. As the sheriff from Texas that I played

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his testimony, that they may actually not be here. They well,

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they use the cartel to get here, and then the

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Cartel's like, now you're going to work in one of

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our distribution centers. You're gonna unload our trucks, you're gonna

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do this stuff. You're you're gonna give us intel wherever

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you go to work. It's a business, right, I said,

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It's it's like a Starbucks franchise here.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So these people may not actually be able to get

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out their indentured server of course, right. And if they

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were to try to go home, they'd be killed, their

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family would be killed. If they try to say I'm

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not going to do this work for the cartel in America,

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They're going to be killed, their family be killed. But

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if they get caught and they get deported. That might

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actually be the only way for them to break free.

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Speaker 4: But you have an institute that exists on the other

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side of the border where they're just going to go

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find them and kill them.

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Speaker 1: Even if it's not their fault that they got deported

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as part of this mass round.

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Speaker 4: Hey they lost money, sure, I mean they don't have

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that money's now gone. The thing I'm disappointed with in

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terms of the operation here right now is you go

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in and you try to decapitate the heads. You don't

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go down to the low end unless you're going to

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try to get those people to flip. And unfortunately, it

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seems to me this this has been chaotic. I mean,

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I have to be honest, it does seem to be

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chaotic here.

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Speaker 1: Which is why they're coming back. I think they said,

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well then they are. Yeah, they said they're coming back,

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sending a new team to Okay.

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Speaker 4: So what if this is the thing. What if the

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heads are up in and not.

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Speaker 1: Here, the heads are in where Raleigh, not here.

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Speaker 4: What if they're rolling them up there and they're getting

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the intel and they're coming back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah with the end I mean this idea that like

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they're gonna tell us that law enforcement's gonna tell us

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all of their operations. I don't understand this idea in

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the media, like just tell us where you're operating, Like

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why would they do that?

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Speaker 4: Like when you go take out a Hamas member, No no, no,

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no serious. I'm not saying like you're shooting missiles, but

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you've gotta go take them into custody.

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Speaker 1: Can you do it at four o'clock in the.

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Speaker 4: Morning when everybody's asleep and they've been doing opium and

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then you throw them in the van and take them

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and say, okay, start start talking what you got or

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we're gonna give you the somebody else?

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Speaker 1: All right, that's Brett Winnable. I'll see you next week.

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I'm off next week.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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