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your support. So I mentioned in the last hour, and
I will reset the table here for the third hour
for those listening on the podcast. The News and Observer,
in the Charlotte Observer, the McClatchy Papers, they did a
story Danielle Battaglia reported on some comments that US Senator
Tom Tillis made at a Senate hearing that occurred yesterday,
and Tom Tillis said he wants Homeland Security to provide
him with the full list of people who were detained,
how long they were detained, whether they were released, and
what property was damaged of theirs during their arrest, and
whether or not they've been provided any proper restitution. I
have no problem with that information being demanded or provided
I'm fine. I gave the analogy of the body cams
being worn by law enforcement. Totally fine with it. But
there was a line here when she said that he
said this during a hearing of the Senate Committee on
the Judiciary, and he said he believes border patrol is
now in his state because Sheriff Gary not my fault.
Macfedden used sanctuary city policy. So last hour because then
she says, well, you know, sanctuary cities were banned by
the state legislature, and they were because of the actions
of cities like Charlotte and others, right, So you guys
were doing this stuff and it prompted the state to
say no, stop doing this stuff, although Charlotte is a
certified welcoming city. And I went over all of that
in the last hour, but I was unaware that there
was this Senate committee meeting yesterday. So I went to
the YouTube and I found I found the hearing. It
only ran an hour and a half and Democrats boycotted it.
Democrats refused to attend this hearing, which was on ice.
It was it was about this very thing. They had
brought in a couple of or three people actually as
witnesses and one of whom is Sheriff Roy Boyd from
Goliad County, Texas that is located in the southwest part
of the state. It's halfway between Laredo and Houston. Okay,
I have his opening statement here, and he is going
to map it out for all of you lunatics on
the left that are out there saying like, oh my gosh,
you're just you know, detaining people that haven't done anything
in all of this. He's going to map it out
for you. This is way bigger than just you know,
the guy cutting your grass or hanging Christmas lights on
the front yard. This is way bigger. He's going to
map it out here.
Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm here to discuss the current situation with
the Guards law enforcement and the enforcement of the laws,
and more specifically, the implementation of the two eighty seven
g Task Force model and the need to expand the
program and change our model of conducting law enforcement operations
across the United States of America. Here's why these efforts
are important to the future of our nation and the
safety of our citizens. While illegal immigration has been a
historical issue along the US Mexico border, this changed more
than a decade ago when the cartels seized control of
the border regions in Mexico and change their business model
to include smuggling of people. When that and the cartels
began controlling who came across the border and began torturing
and killing anyone who attempted to violate their control by
crossing into the US without paying the cartels.
Speaker 1: Did you have it? They started torturing and murdering anybody
who didn't use the cartels, which then locked down a
market monopoly.
Speaker 2: This control gave rise to a new way for the
cartels to conduct business throughout the United States and beyond.
In Mexico, the federal government leases territories to criminal organizations
and what they refer to as the plaza system, the
Mexican government allows cartels to conduct limited smuggling and trafficking
activities in exchange for a monthly fee, with any activity
above and beyond requiring additional payments to government officials as
attacks on excess illicit commerce.
Speaker 1: The Mexican government is protecting these corridors under a plaza system,
and then they're collecting revenue from the cartels. So there
was a financial incentive for the Mexican government to keep
these corridors open.
Speaker 2: The cartels have replicated this Mexican government's program and with
geographic control throughout the United States. I've witnessed this firsthand
when I was the chief deputy for Victoria County Sheriff's Office,
which is next door to Goliad. The Golf Cartel took
control of the cocaine trade in Victoria and surrounding counties.
They then leased the sole distribution rights for the dealing
of pure cocaine to the Houston chapter of the Mexican Mafia.
The Golf Cartel then sent out people onto the streets
to tell the other dealers that unless they were authorized
distributors of pure cocaine, they would have to cut their
product by at least fifty percent with inert material.
Speaker 1: What do you think? Inert material may include probably stuff
not good for it, not that cocaine as But this
is a franchise model, right. We are going to be
the only ones that allow one hundred percent pure coke.
Anybody else you got to cut it fifty to fifty.
We don't care what else is in it, but it
can't be anything more than fifty percent pure, which means
people aren't going to want to buy from you. Right,
If they want the best quality, they're going to have
to come to us, the Golf Cartel and our dealers.
And it's not just dealers. You have to have distribution logistics, right,
You need people, You need places to operate out of.
Do you see where this is going. It requires employees,
It requires people to participate in various ways in the
business model. Right. If you stop thinking of it as
a crime syndicate, which it is, but if you stop
thinking of it more like less as a criminal enterprise
but more of a business model, you can see where
this is going.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: After operations were underway, the cartel sent people back out
on the streets to purchase cocaine from non authorized distributors
for the purpose of testing the product for purity. If
the cocaine was without inert product, the dealer was given
a warning about violating the cartel's control of the product
within the plaza. During this time, we began to receive
word from local cocaine dealers that local cocaine dealers were disappearing.
Many families were not reporting their missing loved ones to
the authorities out of fear of retribution from the cartel
and the Mexican mafia. In total. Our contacts on the
streets advised that at least ten drug dealers had refused
to dilute their product and had been disappeared, never to
be seen again.
Speaker 1: This is in America. This is how they're taking control
of this market.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: They show up at your door like you're not authorized
by us to deal some of your product. They test it.
That's too pure, and now they take you off and
murder you, chop your body up, bury you in a
ditch someplace.
Speaker 2: Only one family went public and sought justice for their son.
We never found him or discovered what became of him.
More his remains. The other aspect of this new business
model is that cartels began using illegal aliens smuggled into
the United States as part of their logistic workforce. When
people are smuggled into the US, they must pay a
fee of the cartels in order to gain safe passage
in our area. Most illegal aliens are smuggled into Houston
for transport across the eastern half of the United States.
Speaker 1: Let me stop there for a minute. Do you remember
the Maryland man, the guy who got busted. He was
picked up in Tennessee or had stopped in Tennessee. Remember
he had a van full of illegal aliens and he
said he was driving from Houston back up to the
Maryland area. And he's working on some jobs or something.
That's their main transport corridor. That's what he's doing. He's
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regarding the Democrats who boycotted this hearing, I have no
doubt that some of them who didn't show up for
that hearing are taken the plata. Yeah, all right, So
this is again Sheriff Roy Boyd from Goliad County, Texas,
mapping out the way that the cartels took control of
the human smuggling corridors through Texas or through Mexico. Rather,
they pay the Mexican government to allow this to occur,
and by controlling that human smuggling corridor, they can smuggle
people because you got to remember, people are just a
commodity to the cartels, just like cocaine or fentanyl or anything.
It's what was the big one, he said, he'll say
it here, you'll hear it, but he says, the human smuggling.
It's putting people into their business model and they need
people to then fan out across America and help them
run their operations. And these are people that are threatened
with death of themselves or of family members or something
if they don't help, if they don't comply.
Speaker 2: Well, it's in Houston. They are given the final amount
that they owe the cartels and their contractors for being here.
From there, the illegal aliens end up in various forms
of indentured servitude across our nation. However, as part of
that obligation of the cartels, these people have to be
willing to provide labor and other services to pay off
their final.
Speaker 1: Debt indentured servitude to the cartels. You on the left
that have been promoting amnesty, open borders, all this stuff,
you do not occupy an ethical high ground here. Okay,
you are advocating a system that puts people into indentured
servitude to cartels. That's what you're doing, and you have
been doing. I find it grotesque. You're not going to
shame me, you know, you're not going to be able
to say, oh, look at you. You don't care about
these people. Who cares about the people?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 1: Who says, shut this all down, break up all of
this model, get these people free from the cartels. Prevent
people from getting into the pipeline in the first place.
Where if they are young and female, they will be abused.
They'll be molested and raped along the way as payment
for getting access into America. I'm the bad guy in
that scenario, or are you the bad guy? Are you
the morally bankrupt person that is trying to make some
argument that I should want cheaper landscaping and if a
couple thousand girls need to be raped at the border,
so be it. That's not a morally superior position. It
never has been, and that's why these Democrats didn't show
up at this hearing today.
Speaker 2: We have interviewed many illegal aliens who have been smuggled
into Texas during our investigations. What we found is that
some will pay off the debt with money over a
period of eight to thirteen years. Some will pay off
the debt by smuggling other illegal aliens or drugs into.
Speaker 1: The United States Maryland Man.
Speaker 2: Some will move illegal aliens and drugs from one area
of the interior to another. Others will be placed in
a forced prostitution or will be called upon to provide
material support and the unloading or moving of drugs in
the areas in which they reside. If you think these
indentured people can just decide not to cooperate once they
are here. That is not the case. The cartels have
a vast intelligence network and keep records of the people
they smuggle, to include family member information. Have had illegal
aliens involved in criminal activity tell me that they had
no choice but to commit criminal acts in order to
prevent their family members from being placed into bondage and
doing unspeakable acts in their home countries. What this means
is that millions of illegal aliens now residing in the
United States are part of the logistical support operations for
illicit cartel activities throughout our country.
Speaker 1: By the way, imagine a scenario where somebody, maybe you,
you make this journey and the cartel says, hey, you
know what, we're going to move you through, but you're
going to pay us this money, and when we get
you to Charlotte, you're going to help us do this
illegal work. You're going to help us with our logistics.
You're going to make some drop offs, pickups, whatever. So
now you've got to pay off this debt for eight
to thirteen years in Charlotte. You can't go back, right,
you can't go back to your like, Okay, I'm going
to go back home. Can't do that now because you
owe them this debt, and you're not going to go
back to the place voluntarily because then they'll kill you
in your family. But what if you got de ported.
That's not your fault. You got swept up and they
sent you. The US government caught you and they sent
you back. That's not your fault. Look, I even tried
to run. I tried to ram the vehicle with my
own vehicle. I tried, I tried to get away, but
they caught me. Is that actually a way out of
the bondage? See, if you start thinking the way the
cartel thinks, you start thinking the way a true victim
of the cartels abuse things. You start thinking like that,
then some of these operations don't look quite the same.
Speaker 2: If our goal is to dismantle cartel operations in the
United States, we must never be able. We will never
be able to do so unless we deny them the
logistical capacity conduct business and a manner that generates an
acceptable stream of revenue to be moved from the United
States into their home countries. In order to take the
initiative and what can only be deemed is asymmetrical warfare
against the cartels, and their business partners. Law enforcement must
change their mindset, must change their methodology. We must look
at what we have been doing in the past and
ask if the billions of dollars we have spent are
accomplishing the primary goals of the missions of the programs implemented.
In most cases, I will speculate that with an honest assessment,
we will find that most of the federal dollars being
pumped into law enforcement programs is remaining in urban areas
where expense versus real and is not in balance. According
to ICE dot gov, as of November fourteenth, twenty twenty five,
there were one thousand, one hundred and sixty seven local
and state law enforcement agencies in forty states that had
signed memorandums of agreement for the at least one of
the two eighty seven g programs. Only six hundred and
five of those agreements are for the participation of the
task force model, which is a model that allows local
and state law enforcement to conduct field immigration enforcement under
the supervision of ICE. With more than eighteen thousand local
law enforcement agencies in the US, six hundred and five
agencies assisting ICE in the field is insufficient.
Speaker 1: This isn't even he's not so what he's talking about.
The task force model. That's not even what we had
in Mecklimber County that our sheriff got rid of. That
was just identifying people that came through the jail. That's it.
It's just identifying them and then letting ice know, hey,
come get this guy there illegal. The task force model
is a separate two eighty seven G structure, and only
about half of the agencies across the country that are
participating in the two eighty seven G program are part
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Sheriff Roy Boyd from Goliad County, Texas, Okay talking about
the human smuggling being used to support the logistical operations
and that law enforcement in America needs to rethink the
way we are combating.
Speaker 2: This to hinder the profit margin of the cartels. If
we are to succeed in this monumental task. This effort
of defeating the cartels, we must restructure our law enforcement efforts.
We must disregard those who stand in the way of change,
ignore the anti American median media outlets working against the
interests of Americans, and create a new chain of command
and organizational structure that allows it for the synergy throughout
full spectrum of law enforcement and streamlines the functionality in
a manner that demands results and accountability, while ensuring funds
are being utilized in accordance with their intended purpose. This
purpose must be to defund and prosecute organize criminal activity
throughout America, which will not happen if we fail to
enforce our immigration laws and deport those who have violated
our sovereignty and have placed themselves at the disposal of
organizations who victimize our citizens.
Speaker 1: All right, And then he did say later on he
called it a national security of the high issue, of
the highest order. Then there was Mia Cathell, investigative journalist
at the Washington Examiner.
Speaker 3: When the uprisings against Ice erupted on the West coast
in June, we saw uniform signage, tactical gear and boots
on the ground. Activists deployed to Los Angeles, the epicenter
of the unrest, almost instantaneously. These certainly were not spontaneous riots.
They were well coordinated and in fact well funded. What
we uncovered was an orchestrated operation, and those at the
forefront of the anti ICE resistance have received ample funding.
Chief among them is the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights
of Los Angeles or CHURLA for short. CHURLA, a five
oh one c three nonprofit as part of a sprawling
anti ICE activist network in the Los Angeles area. Serving
as rapid response to deportation sightings, CHURLA instructs its followers
via blue Sky to report ICE encounters to Los Angeles
Rapid Response Network abbreviated LAUREN. CHURLA co founded Lauren and
late January with the expressed intent to counter the incoming
Trump administration's immigration policies. Here's how it works. In response
to reports of immigration enforcement called in over its hotline,
Lauren sends out sales comprised of immigration lawyers, legal observers,
and activist organizers in order to mobilize counter efforts against ICE.
This rapid response model is replicated elsewhere across the country
using crowdsourced surveillance software, some quite sophisticated or simply social media,
to track ICE activity in the region and alert activists
as well as illegal immigrants, to nearby ICE agents. CHARLA
has acquired its funding from federal and state sources pay
According to churla's tax filing from fiscal twenty twenty three,
the group reported receiving about thirty four million dollars in
government grants unreal. In its capacity as a legal services provider,
CHURLA helps illegal immigrants, including those convicted of crimes, avoid deportation.
Grant records show that Homeland Security, the very agency Churlist Protesting,
has awarded the anti deportation group several six figure grants
since twenty fourteen as part of an immigration aid program
that financially supports organizations actively working to remove barriers to naturalization.
CHARLA has also received generous taxpayer funding from the State
of California. In twenty twenty three, the state's Department of
Social Services awarded CHURLA about three million dollars for an
initiative providing free legal services to immigrants, such as application
assistance and cases seeking immigration remedies. City's deportation relief. In
twenty twenty two, Charla received one point three seven million
dollars from California's Social Services Department, specifically to provide pro
bono defense services and removal proceedings. Charlie's deportation team, nicknamed
Warriors for Justice, was bankrolled by the Los angele Less
Justice Fund, a public private partnership between liberal grant making foundations,
the City of Los Angeles and Los Angeles County. These
grantees formed a removal defense pipeline in the county. Another
far left agitator group fomenting anti ICE unrest is the
foreign funded Party for Socialism and Liberation. The chapters mass
mobilize their forces and major US cities, many of them
so called sanctuaries or Saint Haven's, welcoming illegal immigration. At
the time of the Los Angeles riots, PSL activated its
followers from all corners of the country to take to
the streets, rise up in solidarity, stage parallel protests, and
force ICE out of LA, a rallying cry that has
since been repurposed for cities targeted by federal immigration authorities.
San Antonio Arm explained to local press at the time
that the more cities that opposed ICE operations. Through these
pressure campaigns, the more difficult a federal crackdown becomes. PSL chapters,
such as the ones operating in Washington, d C. And Milwaukee,
continued to convene ICE out rallies to stop the raids.
Most recently, PSL laden Emergency March in Charlotte, where activists
were seen waving Mexican flags to drive out border patrol
and quote defeat the deportation machine. PSL Charlotte began circulating
call to action material days before Border Patrol made landfall
in North Carolina. A coalition of local and national organizations
sponsored the protests, including fifty to fifty one, one of
the organizers behind the nationwide No King's Movement. An individually checked,
these powerful actors work in tandem to advance agendas harmful
to the safety and security of the nation. Their shared
objective is to obstruct the enforcement of US immigration law
legislation that Congress enacted. Simply put, the men and women
of ICE are law enforcement officers passed with carrying out
their congressionally mandated duties. They are under increasing threat of
targeted attacks and hostile demonstrations that often devolve into violent
clashes at this rate, I fear more political violences to
come unless federal officers take further steps to protect our
federal officers.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Charla has a fundraising campaign on
the platform Act Blue, and that's probably why Democrats boycotted
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Speaker 4: It's good to be here.
Speaker 1: So you caught the last bit there of this journalist
from the Washington Examiner. There was a Senate hearing yesterday
about these things, and Democrats boycotted it, right, and it
didn't get any coverage like in our local media, sure
state media. I haven't seen anybody do anything about it,
which I think would be kind of important given that's
what we've been sort of talking about Charlotte almost exclusively
for a week now. Are you surprised at that level
of coordination that she laid out? No, not at all.
Speaker 4: I mean really not at all, because look, the Democratic
Party was put together as a slave party, and let's
be honest about that. Yeah, and what do we have
that the Democrats are defending now, that is slaves coming
into the United States, men, women, children, whatever, And so
they're being right on brand.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's right.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't even be called Charlotte's Web. It should just
be called the old the old South tradition, which is
DEM's gonamn, DEM's gonna demn. And so you know that
everybody knows that. And you have a bunch of people
who I think that this is just Brett Woodable saying it.
Not Pete Callander, I believe that there is a large
constituency in the House, in the Senate who is getting
paid by the cartels period full style.
Speaker 1: I had, I had a message that I read earlier
someone said that exact same.
Speaker 4: Thing, because it's the only reason why these these people
have such high, fullut and high end lifestyles. I mean,
where do you get this mind.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying so it's not the really good stock trading. No,
it's not the well that's part of it. That's part
of it.
Speaker 4: But the other part of it is, you know, people
are people are getting donations to their to their offices.
Like Luke Swallwell just announced that he's going to run
for the governorship of California. He has zero chance, but
that dude's got some questionable practices that he's done. It's
maybe coming from Asia, but it's it's something totally different.
When I grew I grew up in I grew up
in the desert, I grew up in El Paso. I
was there for a long time, and we where we lived.
The very first time we were there, was was the
all the Feds were up on the hill right right
right above us, and they were they were trying to
target all this kind of stuff and fight all this stuff.
But that was pre Cartel's I mean, meaning the gunfights
and the things like that. They managed it like you
would to mafia.
Speaker 1: And and then it just exploded.
Speaker 4: And it's just it's really it's really sad to see
that people will tolerate, you know, what they will, which
is slavery. I mean, it's it's still happening.
Speaker 1: Well, and there are people, I am sure, and I
see them online and I know some people who have
you know, they they go for the empathy, right, they're
susceptible to it. And I talked about this suicidal empathy
earlier in the show too. But you know, they their
heartstrings get tugged by who by the you know, chasing
this poor person down, sending him back to his home country.
It's just here to make a living, provide for his family.
Wasn't breaking any look except for of course coming in illegally,
maybe some documents fraud or something. But right, but what
you don't know is is that person's actual story. Right.
The media may tell you he was just a marilynd Man,
just a marilynd Man, absolutely, but his backstory, he might
actually be. As the sheriff from Texas that I played
his testimony, that they may actually not be here. They well,
they use the cartel to get here, and then the
Cartel's like, now you're going to work in one of
our distribution centers. You're gonna unload our trucks, you're gonna
do this stuff. You're you're gonna give us intel wherever
you go to work. It's a business, right, I said,
It's it's like a Starbucks franchise here.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So these people may not actually be able to get
out their indentured server of course, right. And if they
were to try to go home, they'd be killed, their
family would be killed. If they try to say I'm
not going to do this work for the cartel in America,
They're going to be killed, their family be killed. But
if they get caught and they get deported. That might
actually be the only way for them to break free.
Speaker 4: But you have an institute that exists on the other
side of the border where they're just going to go
find them and kill them.
Speaker 1: Even if it's not their fault that they got deported
as part of this mass round.
Speaker 4: Hey they lost money, sure, I mean they don't have
that money's now gone. The thing I'm disappointed with in
terms of the operation here right now is you go
in and you try to decapitate the heads. You don't
go down to the low end unless you're going to
try to get those people to flip. And unfortunately, it
seems to me this this has been chaotic. I mean,
I have to be honest, it does seem to be
chaotic here.
Speaker 1: Which is why they're coming back. I think they said,
well then they are. Yeah, they said they're coming back,
sending a new team to Okay.
Speaker 4: So what if this is the thing. What if the
heads are up in and not.
Speaker 1: Here, the heads are in where Raleigh, not here.
Speaker 4: What if they're rolling them up there and they're getting
the intel and they're coming back.
Speaker 1: Yeah with the end I mean this idea that like
they're gonna tell us that law enforcement's gonna tell us
all of their operations. I don't understand this idea in
the media, like just tell us where you're operating, Like
why would they do that?
Speaker 4: Like when you go take out a Hamas member, No no, no,
no serious. I'm not saying like you're shooting missiles, but
you've gotta go take them into custody.
Speaker 1: Can you do it at four o'clock in the.
Speaker 4: Morning when everybody's asleep and they've been doing opium and
then you throw them in the van and take them
and say, okay, start start talking what you got or
we're gonna give you the somebody else?
Speaker 1: All right, that's Brett Winnable. I'll see you next week.
I'm off next week.
Speaker 3: All right.
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