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Speaker 4: My name's Jonathan, I'm Sean, and we do have an
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Speaker 3: That's awesome. That actually makes me very happy, man. I
Speaker 3: just want everyone to be able to find the show,
Speaker 3: you know where if you look, that's where're gonna be.
Speaker 3: We're on YouTube as well, so like everywhere you look,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to find MENI Mysteries and so everybody.
Speaker 4: We're happy everywhere. Yeah, we're on also TikTok, also Instagram.
Speaker 4: We're trying to just be as many places as we
Speaker 4: possibly can to try and get as many eyes on
Speaker 4: this kind of information as possible, because we do really
Speaker 4: believe that we're like I mean, maybe maybe not as
Speaker 4: much as some kind of savior of any kind of
Speaker 4: said religion, but we we really do feel like we're
Speaker 4: helping a lot of people with some of this information.
Speaker 4: You know, some people only look into one thing their
Speaker 4: entire life, and they try and get all the information
Speaker 4: and all the answers that they can from one source.
Speaker 3: Really, and so.
Speaker 4: What we like to kind of represent is just an
Speaker 4: all encompassing kind of thing. Maybe maybe this myth or
Speaker 4: this religion or this so and so doesn't have the answers,
Speaker 4: Well maybe you might find it somewhere else. And you're
Speaker 4: not you know, you're not blaspheming, You're not doing wrong
Speaker 4: by looking up information. You're just you're just trying to
Speaker 4: understand the nature of this reality, Okay, and we I
Speaker 4: don't think that anybody should be shamed for that at all.
Speaker 4: You're trying to figure out, like, yo, what does it
Speaker 4: mean to be a human? What does it mean to
Speaker 4: have consciousness? What does it mean that I just got
Speaker 4: some weird like download or why do I keep on
Speaker 4: seeing all these you know, coincidences, right, Like some religions
Speaker 4: don't answer all that. So this is why meta mysteries
Speaker 4: is all encompassing. We are the coexist mumper.
Speaker 3: Sticker, Dude, I love it. I could not have said
Speaker 3: it better man. And you know, even for like people
Speaker 3: like myself, Man, I didn't grow up with a particular
Speaker 3: religion or a structured belief system. And so you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, man, the answers are out there, and
Speaker 3: I think it is spread across all belief systems and
Speaker 3: what have you. Man, and so I just want to
Speaker 3: explore all of it.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Well, if you've been with us long enough,
Speaker 4: you know that we have talked a little bit about
Speaker 4: all of the things that we're going to talk to
Speaker 4: talk about today. However, I do want to say that
Speaker 4: this will be an absolute turning point of the show today.
Speaker 4: This episode is going to be monumental. It is going
Speaker 4: to be It's going to be an absolute game changer,
Speaker 4: like you thought. Maybe I don't know whoever's favorite episode
Speaker 4: was prior to this. I promise you this episode is
Speaker 4: going to crush that. And it's not because we're just
Speaker 4: hyping it up or anything like that. I'm talking about
Speaker 4: I the other day received one of the craziest downloads
Speaker 4: I've ever had in my life, and and I didn't
Speaker 4: really do anything with it. I just sat there and
Speaker 4: I thought about it a little bit, and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, what, maybe I'm supposed to What am I
Speaker 4: supposed to do with this?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: And then what happened was is that I decided to
Speaker 4: do a little bit of research, and turns out there's
Speaker 4: an entire rabbit hole on this very topic.
Speaker 3: Of course there is, all right, yeah, all right, I'm ready, so, uh,
Speaker 3: put your big boy pants on. I don't even jump
Speaker 3: in the studio without him anymore. I know better. You know,
Speaker 3: there was that one time, you know, but not again.
Speaker 3: Not unprepared, not up in here. All right, So enough
Speaker 3: of the fluff. We're gonna get to the actual meat
Speaker 3: and potatoes of this. Why is it going to be
Speaker 3: so awesome? Because we're going to answer the age old question. See,
Speaker 3: so many people they wonder why, why this? Why that?
Speaker 4: They want some kind of divine answer all the time?
Speaker 4: What does God say about this? What did Jesus say
Speaker 4: about this? What did Buddhas say about this? What did
Speaker 4: name your prophet or your savior? What do they have
Speaker 4: to say about this? Why?
Speaker 3: You just want to know why? Yep?
Speaker 4: Whenever the actual question should be how?
Speaker 3: Okay, that changes and it's I feel like you can
Speaker 3: always ask why, no matter what, you can always keep
Speaker 3: pushing that. But but why, you know? And so I
Speaker 3: like this, I'm gonna see whatere this is going? Man?
Speaker 4: So the we're actually gonna I've already dude, I've already
Speaker 4: thought of the title of this episode and everything. I
Speaker 4: have been obsessed with this information. Okay, So what we're
Speaker 4: gonna call this one is people were so obsessed with
Speaker 4: why that they never thought to think how?
Speaker 3: All right it?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right? So the obsession with why. So Humanity
Speaker 4: has always been obsessed with why, Why are we here?
Speaker 4: Why do we do bad things? Why would a good
Speaker 4: why would a god allow suffering? These are the questions
Speaker 4: that echo through temples, churches, and philosophy halls. But tonight
Speaker 4: we turned the mirror around. You don't ask why a
Speaker 4: TV works, why why your car works, why trees grow,
Speaker 4: or why a dog barks? But you uh uh, but
Speaker 4: you can learn how they work. So instead of why,
Speaker 4: we ask how how does a TV work? How does
Speaker 4: a car work? How does a tree grow? And how
Speaker 4: does a dog bark? How do I access divinity? How
Speaker 4: do I align with my purpose? How do I become
Speaker 4: the miracle I've been waiting for? As Alan Watts once said,
Speaker 4: you are something the whole universe is doing.
Speaker 3: So what if so?
Speaker 4: What if God's angels, inspirits weren't weren't things to worship,
Speaker 4: but energies to embody.
Speaker 3: M wow, Okay, I'm liking this, dude, I'm liking it.
Speaker 3: Yeah boy. All right.
Speaker 4: So number one and this is something that we have
Speaker 4: been trying to harp on till the cows come home,
Speaker 4: and that is that mythology wasn't meant to be taken literally. Okay,
Speaker 4: people get so caught up. They get so caught up
Speaker 4: and this is literally this, and this is literally that,
Speaker 4: and well, hey, you just got to look for that
Speaker 4: sign and it's gonna be the end times, you know, like,
Speaker 4: stop taking everything so damn literally. I promise you it
Speaker 4: actually does way less for you if you don't take
Speaker 4: it literally, right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so sure, I feel like it doesn't
Speaker 3: give you any kind of answer at all to your
Speaker 3: current situation, you.
Speaker 4: Know, absolutely not. So myth as a metaphor is how
Speaker 4: we should be looking at these, not history. Now, some
Speaker 4: of them might actually be steeped in some kind of history,
Speaker 4: which is why it's so damn confusing in the first place,
Speaker 4: right because oh, well, you can clearly see the two three,
Speaker 4: three and a half four thousand years ago there was
Speaker 4: a world flood.
Speaker 3: Uh did you hear?
Speaker 4: They just found Noah's ark Yep, did you like It's
Speaker 4: like all these things that point to the these these
Speaker 4: literal structures, these literal places, and that it's sad that
Speaker 4: people take that little bit of information and just say, say,
Speaker 4: I told you it was literal. I told you you
Speaker 4: were supposed to be taking it literal. No, absolutely not,
Speaker 4: Just be like I can. I can make up a story,
Speaker 4: and I can make up a story about what transpired
Speaker 4: in my kitchen, and I can tell you everything that
Speaker 4: was in my fridge during the time of that story.
Speaker 4: I can tell you what my dog was doing in
Speaker 4: that story. Now, just because I'm talking about my kitchen
Speaker 4: and my fridge in this fictional story, does it mean
Speaker 4: that you should take the entire thing literal or that
Speaker 4: I was just trying to provide a little bit of
Speaker 4: insightful context.
Speaker 3: Maybe exactly right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so myth as a metaphor not history. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm a little ampt up right now. I know I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 4: So Greek, Norse, Hindu, and Egyptian. These pantheons weren't just
Speaker 4: ancient fairy tales. They were user manuals for consciousness. Zeus
Speaker 4: wasn't a lightning hurling tyrant. He symbolized divine willpower and
Speaker 4: mastery over chaos. Odin wasn't just a war god. He
Speaker 4: sacrificed his eye for inner sight, which is a metaphor
Speaker 4: for spiritual awakening. Shiva dissolves illusion to make way for truth.
Speaker 4: Isis represents the hidden mystical feminine within all of us.
Speaker 4: Carl Jung referred to these deities as archetypes of the
Speaker 4: collective unconscious, powerful blueprints of what we carry inside. They
Speaker 4: weren't distant gods, they were maps.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, man, I'm with you. Same with the uh,
Speaker 3: the emerald tablets and the inky and in lil and
Speaker 3: you can go on and on. You know, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of symbolism and a lot of things that you
Speaker 3: can garner from from that, but but not necessarily like
Speaker 3: did it really happen? Though it's like no, I don't
Speaker 3: think so. But here's the thing. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 3: it really did or not. That's that's the whole point
Speaker 3: of this entire conversation. Whether it whether it matters or
Speaker 3: if it doesn't, or whether it happened or if it didn't.
Speaker 3: What is going to be the effect on you?
Speaker 4: If these things like, if if Odin actually existed at
Speaker 4: one point in life, what does what impact does that
Speaker 4: have on you?
Speaker 3: Right now? I think you're right. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 3: it makes too much of a difference.
Speaker 4: I guess so it makes I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 4: just follow me on this journey. I promise you it's
Speaker 4: all going to make a little bit more sense all
Speaker 4: right here.
Speaker 3: No, I know you know that.
Speaker 4: I was just trying for the listeners that think that
Speaker 4: I might just sound like I'm full. So anyway, let's continue. So,
Speaker 4: Biblical archetypes are also inner forces. This is why, this.
Speaker 3: Is why all of them work.
Speaker 4: This is why every single one of them work. Because
Speaker 4: the Biblical and not even just Biblical, all of the archetypes.
Speaker 4: I don't care if you worship the or I don't
Speaker 4: care if you worship Loki. I don't care if you
Speaker 4: worship the fucking flying spaghetti monster. Really doesn't matter. Okay,
Speaker 4: it will work if you embody the energy of said archetype.
Speaker 3: That's how it works. And it's a it's a structure, dude.
Speaker 3: It's something that you can live your life by. And
Speaker 3: if you know wholeheartedly that you are doing that, then
Speaker 3: then you're good. You know, you got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 4: So that's how it works. Forget why it works. Don't
Speaker 4: ask why, because then that's how wars start. That's how
Speaker 4: people divide. That is how you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 4: ask how it works? Like nobody ever got mad about
Speaker 4: discovering how milk has calcium in it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: But why would you ask why does milk have calcium
Speaker 4: in it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Because the divine mother cow from from sacred Jupiter has
Speaker 4: blessed us with her holy milk.
Speaker 3: I this one. Why?
Speaker 4: Why why do you need to know that? You don't
Speaker 4: need to know it just you just need to know
Speaker 4: how it works, Okay. And so anyway, this is what
Speaker 4: I was talking about. Before I even go any farther.
Speaker 4: What I was talking about was it was I was
Speaker 4: just driving the other day and I was just like, man,
Speaker 4: there has to be an easy question. And this is
Speaker 4: something that I've been pondering because my goal on this
Speaker 4: show is to try and take a lot of this
Speaker 4: information and simplify it so that we can all really
Speaker 4: chew it up and swallow it and easy to be
Speaker 4: easy to swallow pieces, right, yep, Because a lot of
Speaker 4: it can be convoluted and a lot of it can be,
Speaker 4: you know, difficult to really comprehend, especially if you're reading
Speaker 4: it in the language of two thousand years ago, you know.
Speaker 4: So so I was trying to think the other day
Speaker 4: as I was driving, I was like, what is the
Speaker 4: question that is going to simplify it as much as
Speaker 4: humanly possible? And I just got maybe they should be
Speaker 4: asking how, not why? And I was like, I was like,
Speaker 4: that's interesting, you know. And I'm not going to say
Speaker 4: that I receive some kind of download from the Almighty, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't ask who or why.
Speaker 3: I just want to know how, Okay, that's it.
Speaker 4: So as I received that, I was like, let me
Speaker 4: sit with this for a couple of days because I
Speaker 4: feel like there's somewhere I can take this, okay.
Speaker 3: And then the insane level.
Speaker 4: Of research that I did for this show that deep
Speaker 4: Dives the rabbit Hole. I mean I'm talking about, like
Speaker 4: my consciousness was raised in researching this show. Bro on
Speaker 4: no shit, bro, Like this is this is that level
Speaker 4: kind of stuff, because it just sometimes you read some
Speaker 4: information and it unlocks something in your mind, you know.
Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, you were kind of
Speaker 4: talking a little bit about that before the show. That's
Speaker 4: something just unlocked in your mind today, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that was today. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: want me to go into it, but basically, I I
Speaker 3: was talking to one of my coworkers, you know, and
Speaker 3: and and he's of the the Catholic faith, you know,
Speaker 3: and the way that he was explaining to me, not
Speaker 3: necessarily all of his experiences, but just his unbinding faith,
Speaker 3: you know, and and and what he believes in and
Speaker 3: how happy he is in the conviction and the sincerity
Speaker 3: behind what he was telling me. I I literally could
Speaker 3: feel it coming off of him, you know, and and
Speaker 3: And It's interesting because, you know, one of my other coworkers,
Speaker 3: he's like in another religion, but it's kind of in
Speaker 3: the same vein, and they'll disagree, but he feels exactly
Speaker 3: the same way about what he believes in. And so
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just think one's one's like Christian,
Speaker 3: and one's Catholic Christian Catholic, and they they kind of
Speaker 3: like bump heads, you know, because he's like, they're similar wrong,
Speaker 3: you're wrong, but like because they can't do this, and
Speaker 3: just you know, I mean you can imagine the disagreements
Speaker 3: there's some contradiction.
Speaker 4: In the Catholic and the Catholics pray to all the
Speaker 4: saints and everything in the christ.
Speaker 3: Sat and the pope and the bishops, and you know,
Speaker 3: there's this sense of hierarchy of of power and authority. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's rather and so there's that, and then the other
Speaker 3: side is like, well, you know in the Bible, you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's none of that, there's no you don't have
Speaker 3: this authority to to forgive someone's sins. And you know,
Speaker 3: it goes on and on. But however, they both believe
Speaker 3: what they believe without a shadow of a doubt, and
Speaker 3: they live their life by it, and it works, and
Speaker 3: they have happiness, and they have this just undying love
Speaker 3: for Jesus and for for life and for you know,
Speaker 3: And so how am I going to tell them, you know,
Speaker 3: you're you're wrong, because one I don't know, I really
Speaker 3: don't know shit, you know. And if they're living very happily,
Speaker 3: great you figured something out and you're right, you know,
Speaker 3: for you you're right. And what I believe in, I'm right,
Speaker 3: you know, because if it, if it, if it guides
Speaker 3: me to feel like a certain way and life is
Speaker 3: going good, like I'm my way home, man, I was.
Speaker 3: I was driving, and I just felt super happy because
Speaker 3: I felt like it dawned on me. And I know
Speaker 3: that I've we have kind of glazed over this before
Speaker 3: as far as everybody kind of being right, and it's like,
Speaker 3: it just made me feel so happy because I was like,
Speaker 3: holy shit, and I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it right
Speaker 3: now because they are you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it feels good not to have to
Speaker 4: fight with somebody because of their beliefs, right.
Speaker 3: And we we should all just be like happy that
Speaker 3: another person found that thing that gives them this almost
Speaker 3: supernatural feeling of being connected to divine, you know, because
Speaker 3: that's ultimately what all of them are trying to do. Dude.
Speaker 4: And you know what, the Jews feel the same exact way.
Speaker 3: The is the what is it?
Speaker 4: The Muslims feel the same exact way. You know, like
Speaker 4: every single religion feels like they have whatever whatever kind
Speaker 4: of experience they've had, is it proves that their religion
Speaker 4: is the right one, or in more correct terms, it's
Speaker 4: the right one for them.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and it was bad. Well, no, I was
Speaker 3: just gonna say that, you know, everybody has their own
Speaker 3: individual thing going for them, and I kind of forgot
Speaker 3: where I was gonna go with that, But go ahead
Speaker 3: and then I'll pick back up.
Speaker 4: No, it's all right. I mean I was just gonna say,
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's really the beauty behind the coexists
Speaker 4: bumper sticker is that the people and some people actually
Speaker 4: get really really pissed off at people that have those
Speaker 4: bumper stickers, like I can't relieve this god.
Speaker 3: Damn hippie probably smoking reefer, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like it's just one of those kind of things. And
Speaker 4: it's like, man, you know, like what a disc gruntled
Speaker 4: life you must be living that in order for you
Speaker 4: to believe what you believe, you need everybody else to
Speaker 4: believe it to right.
Speaker 3: And And that was another thing that I that I
Speaker 3: was talking to to my coworker about and I was like, cause,
Speaker 3: I guess in my mind I had this this understanding
Speaker 3: that people that were religious or let's say Christian, right,
Speaker 3: they might look at us, and I don't know, I
Speaker 3: just had this feeling like they would look at us
Speaker 3: and go like, oh I feel sorry for them, or
Speaker 3: or and maybe they do, you know, maybe something do,
Speaker 3: but a lot of them or you know, because we're
Speaker 3: going to hell or because I don't believe in what
Speaker 3: they believe in. It's almost like, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: doing wrong, you know. And the way he was telling
Speaker 3: me anyway, he was like, no, I don't think that
Speaker 3: at all, you know, And and I think that's how
Speaker 3: it was supposed to be, you know, like I'm not
Speaker 3: going to tell you you're wrong, but don't tell me
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, and let's all just have our own thing
Speaker 3: and be at peace. Just go exist. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4: That's it's it, and that's and that's the thing is
Speaker 4: that is that people have a hard time believing that
Speaker 4: there's more than one truth when an actuality there really
Speaker 4: is only one truth that's right, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like the deep, actual truth of all of this is
Speaker 4: not found in a book. But you know what's funny
Speaker 4: about that. And I thought about this too, because there
Speaker 4: has to be right there. I mean, they're just I
Speaker 4: feel like there definitely has to be just that one
Speaker 4: thing that's just that's it, right, And so I say
Speaker 4: that we're all right as far as what we believe
Speaker 4: in individually, but.
Speaker 3: We're probably all wrong when it comes to what it
Speaker 3: really is you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but I would say that there's and
Speaker 4: that's what we're going to get to, is that there
Speaker 4: is a truth that at the very bottom and it's
Speaker 4: not that difficult, but it's it's I'll say it like this.
Speaker 4: It's simple, but it ain't easy, okay. And I just
Speaker 4: want to throw this out there too. I know that
Speaker 4: some people probably listen to the show, maybe you're Christian
Speaker 4: or something that you listen to the show and you think,
Speaker 4: oh my god, all these guys do is they just
Speaker 4: shit all over Christianity. I just want to put that
Speaker 4: into context. We only are around the religious people that
Speaker 4: are around us. If they are religious, it is they
Speaker 4: are Christian and there's nothing wrong with that. We would
Speaker 4: be saying the same thing if we grew up and
Speaker 4: fucking I don't know, Iran right about the Muslims, like
Speaker 4: we would be saying it doesn't matter where it is.
Speaker 4: It's just the context of the conversation. Just so everybody knows,
Speaker 4: we don't have a bone to pick with Christianity by
Speaker 4: any means. It's just, you know, that is how you
Speaker 4: show the contrast a little.
Speaker 3: Bit for what's around us. Yeah, it's what's around us.
Speaker 3: And those are the people that we have conversations with
Speaker 3: and we hear their ideas or beliefs and we kind
Speaker 3: of just exchange back and forth. And yeah, man, it's
Speaker 3: been pretty interesting being able to have that actually, like
Speaker 3: just recently for me.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: It is pretty cool. But all right, let's get back
Speaker 4: to it. And speaking of the Bible, we're going to
Speaker 4: get into Biblical archetypes are also inner forces. So Moses
Speaker 4: represents the part of us that leads are inner people,
Speaker 4: our thoughts, our emotions, our fears out of slavery and
Speaker 4: into clarity. Think about it. Moses was lost in the
Speaker 4: desert for I think like forty fucking years or some
Speaker 4: crazy ass super long time. Oh sh and then you
Speaker 4: know God, you know, I guess God sent down manna,
Speaker 4: which is like some kind of spiritual bread so that
Speaker 4: they so they could you know, survive or whatever. Right, Okay,
Speaker 4: now are you gonna take that literally? Some people do
Speaker 4: a lot of people do around in a desert, bro Like,
Speaker 4: it's just not going to happen. I don't care if
Speaker 4: you have anybody guiding you, You're not going to survive
Speaker 4: in the fucking desert with no food and no water
Speaker 4: except for literally like hunger Game style, you have Woody
Speaker 4: Harrelson sending you in something like some No, it doesn't
Speaker 4: work like that, Like that's not reality. You're living in
Speaker 4: fiction land. That's not how it works.
Speaker 3: That's not how any of this works, as they say,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: And so if you look at Moses and you and
Speaker 4: you treat it for the the meaning of the story,
Speaker 4: what can you pull from this story? Maybe how the
Speaker 4: mystics or the or the gurus or the sages would
Speaker 4: look at this story. The Gnostics, how would they look
Speaker 4: at this story? Because I guarantee you they are not
Speaker 4: looking at this story as if Moses and all his
Speaker 4: followers you know, uh, were just wandering in the desert
Speaker 4: for fucking.
Speaker 3: Half a lifetime however long, you know.
Speaker 4: So, if you look at it this way, Moses represents
Speaker 4: the part of us that leads our inner people, our
Speaker 4: inner people being, our thoughts, our emotions, and our fears
Speaker 4: out of slavery and into clarity.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, Okay, I love that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So let's look at Jesus here for a second.
Speaker 4: He would be the Christos. Okay, that would be the
Speaker 4: anointed one, you know, So all all Christos is is
Speaker 4: just the anointing oil. Some people might call that your.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, what do they call it?
Speaker 4: The the the fluid that that comes up your spine
Speaker 4: whenever you don't squander it, right, you know what I'm
Speaker 4: trying to say, something like yeah, uh well, no, it
Speaker 4: goes up the claustrom that's like Sanna going up the
Speaker 4: chimney is like the representative of that. But anyway, it's
Speaker 4: some kind of anointing oil that goes up your body. Right,
Speaker 4: and so Jesus would be the Christos, the anointed one.
Speaker 4: He's not just a man, but a symbol of the
Speaker 4: higher self awakened within. If we're looking at the Bible
Speaker 4: like this, right, even Satan is not a horned villain,
Speaker 4: but he's the force of opposition, the ego that tempts
Speaker 4: us into limitation. That makes sense, right, I mean, like,
Speaker 4: not today, devil, not today, Satan. You know, don't let
Speaker 4: me have a bad day. Well, what causes most bad
Speaker 4: days other than your own damn thoughts? You know, if
Speaker 4: you're just walking around like a manifestation machine and you
Speaker 4: don't even know it, and your subconscious is taken over
Speaker 4: and you don't pay attention to most of your subconscious thoughts,
Speaker 4: because we have sixty fucking thousand of them per day, right,
Speaker 4: If you're not paying attention to them, yep, well maybe
Speaker 4: they just manifest without your knowing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And then imagine not just the subconscious thoughts,
Speaker 3: you know, but the thoughts that you were having consciously,
Speaker 3: you know, especially if you're you're going through anxiety and
Speaker 3: you're just you're just letting those thoughts just go around
Speaker 3: the carousel, you know what I mean, just round and round,
Speaker 3: and before you know it, you're sick, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Dude, that's it. So as and we brought
Speaker 3: up old Boy here.
Speaker 4: Remember Bill Donahue, we talked about Yes, dude, I love
Speaker 4: that guy. But as Bill, as Bill Donahue once said,
Speaker 4: the stories are not about them.
Speaker 3: They're about you.
Speaker 4: You are all of it, the one lost, the one unredeemed,
Speaker 4: and the one who redeems.
Speaker 3: M I love it.
Speaker 4: This is this is esoteric. This is this is secret
Speaker 4: society school right here. What's going on right here.
Speaker 3: But it's not a secret, you know, that's the only thing.
Speaker 4: No, it's out in the open. It's just it's a
Speaker 4: secret because it's not blasted all over billboards like McDonald's.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a secret because it's not a billion
Speaker 4: dollar megachurch with with priests and pastors riding in Lamborghinis.
Speaker 4: It's not like that. You know, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: I just drive a V six vehicle. Okay, I live
Speaker 4: in a vehicle. I even fucking I drive. I live
Speaker 4: in a fucking two bedroom apartment that is seven hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty six square feet. All right, we don't have
Speaker 4: a mega mansion. It's not about that. None of this,
Speaker 4: none of this is about that. It's just about trying
Speaker 4: to find the truth. And that's all the nosis Gnostics
Speaker 4: really cared about, was just trying to find the deep
Speaker 4: understanding because it doesn't matter how much money you have,
Speaker 4: you can be you can be rich while being poor.
Speaker 4: And that's really the secrets of this whole place. You
Speaker 4: think about all the trust fund babies and all the
Speaker 4: billionaires and all of the you know, like the spoiled,
Speaker 4: rotten kids that got everything handed to them. They never
Speaker 4: really had to work a day in their life. They
Speaker 4: just got things handed to them. I think they're happy,
Speaker 4: some of them, but I mean them, are they fulfilled?
Speaker 4: Are they fulfilled, happy.
Speaker 3: More than likely, not more than likely. Not.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't know, you know, I wouldn't know either. So
Speaker 4: now we get to religion and the divine outside versus
Speaker 4: the inside. Okay, so the mystical union versus the institutional religion.
Speaker 4: The earliest spiritual systems, such as Vedic and Sufi, Gnostic
Speaker 4: and Buddhist, taught union with the divine through breath work, silence,
Speaker 4: altered states, and ritual. They didn't just talk about God,
Speaker 4: became one with it. But religion institutionalized mystery, externalize the divine,
Speaker 4: and turn God into a figure in the sky rather
Speaker 4: than a presence within the self. Buddha taught this, this
Speaker 4: is his quote, the mind is everything what you think
Speaker 4: you become. But Western religions often trained us to pray
Speaker 4: for rescue instead of act with alignment. Even the mystics
Speaker 4: and sages who pointed inward, as such as Alan Watts,
Speaker 4: I would call him a mystic one hundred percent absolutely.
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, I could listen to him talk just
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: Dude was always thinking about some shit, you know, figure
Speaker 3: it out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, always on one. But he once said, trying to
Speaker 4: define yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth impossible.
Speaker 4: The truth, the true self, the divine within, can't be
Speaker 4: grasped through doctrine. Carl Jung taught and this quote, who
Speaker 4: looks outside dreams, who looks inside awakes?
Speaker 3: That's deep. That is deep, dude.
Speaker 4: Even whenever you're on psychedelics, you know, it's way more
Speaker 4: powerful when you just close your eyes and go in.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, you almost feel like you could start like
Speaker 3: manifesting shit, like on some real shit. You know, like
Speaker 3: I feel like there's some extra shit going on there.
Speaker 3: Oh do you feel like your mind is like almost
Speaker 3: just completely connected to whatever that is?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Do you feel like fucking Mickey Mouse with the wand
Speaker 4: and you can just start you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But eddiehow so even witches and magicians knew this. They
Speaker 4: didn't ask for blessings, They conjured them. Ritual was never
Speaker 4: just for asking, it was for becoming.
Speaker 3: M Damn.
Speaker 4: See what I'm saying. This is a complete mental shift
Speaker 4: at how you look at things. This is whenever we
Speaker 4: talk about like see you always you just got to
Speaker 4: open up your third eye. Well, let me just think
Speaker 4: about it, like, let me just go into that here
Speaker 4: for a second, whenever you open up your third eye,
Speaker 4: like the idea is that you change your perspective, your
Speaker 4: perspective that you once had, and then when your third
Speaker 4: eye is open, now it's now a different perspective. You're
Speaker 4: now looking at the world completely different. Okay, So whenever
Speaker 4: you're in your third eye and your in your your
Speaker 4: pineal gland is working correctly and it's not corroded because
Speaker 4: now you have some sort of inner nosis. You don't
Speaker 4: have to believe once you know, right right exactly, that's
Speaker 4: a completely different thing. So anyhow, onward we go, sir,
Speaker 4: all right, So how instead of why how to embody angels,
Speaker 4: gods and spirits. These things are energetic templates. Think of
Speaker 4: archangel Michael, for example. He represents courage and spiritual protection.
Speaker 4: You don't need to summon him, You become him when
Speaker 4: you speak your truth and defend your soul. Raphael is
Speaker 4: the frequency of healing. Thor is in body when you
Speaker 4: stand in your power and don't back down. In witchcraft,
Speaker 4: this idea is central. You don't worship archetypes, you invoke
Speaker 4: and become them. You align your energy, your breath, your intention,
Speaker 4: and you step into their essence. Think about that step
Speaker 4: into their essence. Literally, you become as This is why
Speaker 4: whenever people are like fighting demons or you know, they
Speaker 4: got some scary shit going on, they always just they
Speaker 4: call on Jesus. Right, well, think about this, WWJD. If
Speaker 4: you are becoming the essence of Jesus.
Speaker 3: Yep, what would Jesus do? Right? You're embodying Jesus.
Speaker 4: Cast you back to hell Satan? Right, Like, you don't
Speaker 4: even need Jesus to come. You just took on his
Speaker 4: essence because now you spoke his name, and his name
Speaker 4: has a certain essence, It has a certain frequency, it
Speaker 4: has a certain vibration, and you know that you're not
Speaker 4: gonna lose if you have Jesus.
Speaker 3: You know that you're not gonna lose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Buddha, you know you're not gonna lose if you
Speaker 4: have so and so it doesn't matter. Like whoever you
Speaker 4: believe is the most spiritual gangster that you could ever imagine,
Speaker 4: and you embody that and you take on that essence.
Speaker 4: Fucking lookout demon because you're fucked hard.
Speaker 3: Rhyme. It's out of here, dude, you know. And that
Speaker 3: goes along with what we what we were saying. You know,
Speaker 3: when we had optimistic banks on as far as everything
Speaker 3: being you. You know, it's like you're that that essence
Speaker 3: of whatever archetype or whatever entity you want to invoke
Speaker 3: or or embody. It's because it's already there, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. You're just now bringing it to the
Speaker 3: surface and almost presenting it outward. You know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And even you know why prayer works. Actually it's
Speaker 4: because you're you're getting into the vibration of like thankfulness.
Speaker 4: Because the correct and proper way to pray is to
Speaker 4: pray as if it's all already happening, happened right, Like,
Speaker 4: you won't say, oh God, please, you know, send me
Speaker 4: the love of my life, or please give me a
Speaker 4: Lamborghini my.
Speaker 3: Driveway or whatever.
Speaker 4: Right, you say, thank you God for everything that you
Speaker 4: bless me for. I am eternally grateful for your your
Speaker 4: insane blessings that you have given me. I'm not worthy,
Speaker 4: but you have found me worthy of these things. Now
Speaker 4: you don't even have these things yet, but you know
Speaker 4: you believe, you have so much faith in God that
Speaker 4: it's going to happen once you have that conversation.
Speaker 3: With them, right Okay, And when you're praying and when
Speaker 3: you're meditating, you are in that that space between the
Speaker 3: notes that we've talked about before, which is that divine space.
Speaker 3: And so thus you're able to manifest or make something
Speaker 3: happen in your favor. You know, dude, just fash much
Speaker 3: more easily. You're connected to that, that illogical space rather
Speaker 3: than the the worldly mind space.
Speaker 4: Yes, and so it because it is kind of illogical.
Speaker 4: It is a lie logical to pray to somebody that
Speaker 4: is not physically there that we can see with our eyes, right,
Speaker 4: And that's.
Speaker 3: What it takes. You know, there's a lot. I mean,
Speaker 3: there are so many things within religion that when when
Speaker 3: someone says it, if you think about that with a
Speaker 3: logical mind, it doesn't make sense. No, you know, you
Speaker 3: know people talking about exorcisms and someone throwing up frogs
Speaker 3: and nails. It's like you can't understand that logically. If
Speaker 3: you wanted to think about that logically, you just couldn't
Speaker 3: believe it. You know, you have to go into that illogical,
Speaker 3: that illogical space to allow that to be something that
Speaker 3: could happen. It's allowing you to believe.
Speaker 4: And that's why I believe, in my opinion, why the
Speaker 4: stories say that Jesus was born of a virgin. Why
Speaker 4: Jesus was able to, you know, walk on water, Why
Speaker 4: he was able to heal the blind and heal the
Speaker 4: sick and do all these amazing things. Why he was
Speaker 4: able to rise from the dead three days after he
Speaker 4: was nailed to the gun damn cross. Excuse my friends,
Speaker 4: excuse my French. But it's and I think that it
Speaker 4: needs the story needs a little bit of illogical in
Speaker 4: it because in order for you to know that you're
Speaker 4: communicating with something that is so much bigger than you,
Speaker 4: it has to be literally illogical.
Speaker 3: And that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: And that Isn't that why they say that you need
Speaker 4: to encompass the the the energy and the imagination of
Speaker 4: a child right there, because they just already believe they
Speaker 4: don't need They don't give a fuck about logical.
Speaker 3: You just might be hondo something right here. That's all
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm gonna say that, you know.
Speaker 4: I'm trying, I literally obsessed obsess about this. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I just love this kind of shit.
Speaker 3: I love you. I love your energy, daddy.
Speaker 4: So so how to access their frequencies? So do you
Speaker 4: want to feel angelic love? Practice? Heart based breathing. Do
Speaker 4: you want?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: So visual So, if you're practicing heart based breathing, you
Speaker 4: would visualize green light expanding from your chest a lot
Speaker 4: like what Lord Byron did and does meditations?
Speaker 3: Right, want some shit?
Speaker 4: Visualize green light expanding from your chest? Do you want
Speaker 4: Odin's wisdom? Try a silent meditation or a trance state
Speaker 4: in nature and ask for insight without expectation.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 4: I mean, just sometimes you just gotta shut up, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and like, don't don't pop your
Speaker 4: eye out, you know, just close your eyes and just
Speaker 4: try to utilize your third eye right right, Just become
Speaker 4: so silent that your your higher self or your subconscious
Speaker 4: actually has a voice.
Speaker 3: Mm.
Speaker 4: Like that's really that's really the trick of all of.
Speaker 3: The quiet everything else down.
Speaker 4: Yes, And sometimes it's going to feel like it's a
Speaker 4: message from God, and sometimes it's going to feel like
Speaker 4: it's a message from Jesus.
Speaker 3: The truth is is it doesn't matter where it came from.
Speaker 3: A message really doesn't matter. And one you needed. That's it.
Speaker 3: That's all you need to know.
Speaker 4: Yes, So even Shiva, So Shiva's presence come or comes
Speaker 4: when you release what no longer serves you. Pranayama in
Speaker 4: Hindu practice, mantras in Buddhism, mirror work, and mysticism. These
Speaker 4: are technologies for embodiment. Think about that. You're trying to
Speaker 4: embody the essence of these gods, You're trying to connect
Speaker 4: with them, but you're actually just embodying their essence. And
Speaker 4: what's going on is is that you know, you just
Speaker 4: so happened to I mean, you're a magical fucking being.
Speaker 4: You having to take on there, You're still having to
Speaker 4: take on their powers. Okay, Like even even in the
Speaker 4: most minute sense. I'm not talking about powers to literally
Speaker 4: like build a world. I mean you can always do
Speaker 4: that in meditation anyway, you know. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to go as far as to
Speaker 4: say that you're just imagining things in meditation. I don't
Speaker 4: believe that.
Speaker 3: Like, we're so beyond that now, you know, so uh
Speaker 3: uh uh.
Speaker 4: The gods are not found by asking why they exist.
Speaker 4: They are found by discovering how to tune into their frequency.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's it this.
Speaker 3: Whole time.
Speaker 4: You know what's funny, dude, what's funny is is that
Speaker 4: I always knew it was going to be simple, Like
Speaker 4: I knew it was going to be I'm not even
Speaker 4: saying that we cracked every single code that there is,
Speaker 4: but I'm saying this is the key to that next
Speaker 4: checkpoint like we have. Now we're like on crash Bandicoot.
Speaker 4: You can you go so far and you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, you hit a checkpoint and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, I don't I don't have to start back
Speaker 4: at the beginning anymore because now we have a foundation.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, I love this. I love this episode already. Man,
Speaker 3: I do too, dude.
Speaker 4: So nextly we get into shifting from why to how. Now,
Speaker 4: for a little context, if you look at it like this,
Speaker 4: this is I hope this helps a lot of people
Speaker 4: because it definitely unlocks something in me. Okay, whenever you
Speaker 4: shift from why to how, you literally shift from victim
Speaker 4: to creator.
Speaker 3: M because you volunteered for all of this. Anyways, you
Speaker 3: know every situation that you're in. I mean, who else's
Speaker 3: fault was it? You know, it's only yours.
Speaker 4: But that's the thing is that you people who are
Speaker 4: that they think that there is some kind of higher force,
Speaker 4: higher intelligence, somebody that's literally pulling the strings to our reality,
Speaker 4: call of God.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 4: If you think that, then you're always going to wonder why,
Speaker 4: why God would you let this happen to me?
Speaker 3: Oh my God, it's literally out.
Speaker 4: Of my hands. I just got delta shitty hand. I
Speaker 4: ask God, don't ask me.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: However, whenever you say how changes the story because now
Speaker 4: you're not you can't play victim literally, and.
Speaker 3: It's more pliable now all of a sudden.
Speaker 4: And not only whenever you ask how, it's that once
Speaker 4: you figure out how to do something, you literally create
Speaker 4: think about it. So for the longest time. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you, dude. I'm self trained
Speaker 4: at learning about how to do all of this podcast,
Speaker 4: all this computer, all of this mixer, all this shit right,
Speaker 4: very self trained. I was horrible ass in the beginning,
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I couldn't get the sound right, I
Speaker 4: couldn't get the audio the video. I didn't know how
Speaker 4: to post. I didn't know how to you know, like
Speaker 4: share it on social media any of that, like, and
Speaker 4: but you know what I did. I didn't say why
Speaker 4: God did you not give me a brain strong enough
Speaker 4: to be able to figure this shit out?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I didn't say that I just said, how do I
Speaker 4: do it?
Speaker 3: Right? How do I do it? Yeah? So one thing
Speaker 3: at a time, dude.
Speaker 4: So so then we became creators, right, that's it all right?
Speaker 4: So when you ask why did this happen to me?
Speaker 4: You remain a character in someone else's story. When you
Speaker 4: ask how can I grow from this? You become the author.
Speaker 4: The difference is night and day. This is the secret
Speaker 4: that religions feared. If people stop asking why and start
Speaker 4: practicing how, they become free. In Buddhism, the Eightfold Path, Oh,
Speaker 4: we did a show on that.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 4: In Buddhism, the Eightfold Path is a how based motor roadmap.
Speaker 4: In witchcraft, spell work is how you turn your intent
Speaker 4: into reality. In psychology, Carl Jung taught individuation the process
Speaker 4: of becoming a whole not by asking why, but by
Speaker 4: integrating shadow and light.
Speaker 3: Very important, man.
Speaker 4: Yes, So there are some daily practices to reinforce the shift,
Speaker 4: and we're going to dive into that in more depth
Speaker 4: here a little bit later. But this is kind of
Speaker 4: just a little bit. So, well, instead of praying why
Speaker 4: won't the universe help me? Ask how can I serve
Speaker 4: the universe today? Instead of why don't I have what
Speaker 4: I want? Ask how can I become the person who's
Speaker 4: aligned with it? Then you want to journal your thoughts,
Speaker 4: declare your archetype of the day, use affirmations like spells.
Speaker 4: Bill Donahue once said, we were told to bow our
Speaker 4: heads and pray, But what happens when we lift our
Speaker 4: heads and become when you stop looking up for answers
Speaker 4: and start looking in every single thing changes.
Speaker 3: You know. There's a lot of you know, and I'm
Speaker 3: probably one of those people as well. I definitely have
Speaker 3: been as far as you know, wishing that I could
Speaker 3: do something like I think it was just the other
Speaker 3: day I was telling my wife. I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I wish we were watching basketball, and I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I wish there was one thing I could do that
Speaker 3: these guys do like they do basketball far how good
Speaker 3: they are, I mean, they're at the top level of
Speaker 3: this sport, you know, And I was like, I just
Speaker 3: wish I had that one thing that I was just
Speaker 3: like the motherfucker of you know what I'm saying, It's like,
Speaker 3: and immediately instead of just leaving it there and feeling
Speaker 3: bad for myself, I was like, oh, I guess I
Speaker 3: could but I would have to just practice that one
Speaker 3: thing over and over and just immerse myself in it,
Speaker 3: and then I would be you know, and I was like,
Speaker 3: so I just shut up, you know. I was like, fuck,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like I hate my own words. It's
Speaker 3: I know what I need to do, and we all
Speaker 3: just need to find that thing and then just keep
Speaker 3: doing that thing, you know, and yeah, you'll figure it out.
Speaker 4: I mean, whatever you aspire to be. Now, realistically, I'm
Speaker 4: five ten, I'm never going to dunk, so basketball is
Speaker 4: probably not in the cards for me, right right, So
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: The reason yeah, yeah, of course within reason, but sometimes
Speaker 3: out of reason, because I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 4: Whenever I first started podcasting, I knew that this was
Speaker 4: what I was going to do. Like maybe at a
Speaker 4: subconscious level, maybe I wanted to believe that, but there
Speaker 4: was always people like, dude, you're fucking thirty something years.
Speaker 4: I think I was thirty. I was thirty whenever I
Speaker 4: started it as.
Speaker 3: A matter like that even matters at all.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and I was thirty whenever I started, and people
Speaker 4: were like, man, you really think like and they would
Speaker 4: almost feel bad for me for believing it. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, he thinks he can do something. You
Speaker 4: know what, let's I'm gonna just say it. You know,
Speaker 4: like you can do it, man, do it. It's like
Speaker 4: I know, I know. I just it's gonna take a
Speaker 4: little bit of time, that's all because I firmly believe
Speaker 4: that if you give the things that you love enough
Speaker 4: love and time and enough time and enough effort and
Speaker 4: everything that requires like I don't know, whatever requires perfection
Speaker 4: or perfecting something in your mind, like you know what
Speaker 4: it takes, like like you would know, like, for example,
Speaker 4: you've never have you ever played a guitar?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, what is an instrument that you never played?
Speaker 3: Probably I don't know, saxophone. Let's just say, okay, saxophone.
Speaker 4: And it would be an awesome you know, uh, it
Speaker 4: would be awesome to learn because those things sound awesome,
Speaker 4: right yeah, And you know with how your mind works
Speaker 4: that it would probably take a lot of time to
Speaker 4: go into it. Like if you set out and you said,
Speaker 4: you know what, maybe you watched a movie and there
Speaker 4: was somebody playing a saxophone. It really inspired you to
Speaker 4: want to start playing, and not only just start playing,
Speaker 4: you want to play as good as.
Speaker 3: Him, right, or as good as her or whatever. Right.
Speaker 4: And but you would know whenever you bought that saxophone,
Speaker 4: because that's obviously got to be the first step. You
Speaker 4: would know that whenever you bought that saxophone. Okay, if
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get there, I need to work on
Speaker 4: this at least six hours a day, every day, every
Speaker 4: single I need to obsess about it. I need to
Speaker 4: think about it. I need to bathe myself into it.
Speaker 4: I need to literally think about it. Whenever I'm on
Speaker 4: the porcelain throne, right. I need to think about it
Speaker 4: in my dreams. I need to think about it. Whenever
Speaker 4: I'm at work, I need to be researching it. I
Speaker 4: need to obsess about this in order for me to
Speaker 4: get good at this thing. So you already know how
Speaker 4: you would perfect the saxophone, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yep? And where do people go wrong? Though they don't
Speaker 3: do all that, you know, they try it. You know,
Speaker 3: they might take a few lessons and then kind of, eh,
Speaker 3: I'm not as good as I want to be, but
Speaker 3: they want to be good right away, you know, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of discouraging, and so it takes time.
Speaker 4: That's the thing is that. Yeah, some people do. Some
Speaker 4: people take to some things a little bit easier than
Speaker 4: others for sure. But I'll tell you what, dude, I'm
Speaker 4: the last person to tell you like, I don't believe that, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean sure that there are is
Speaker 4: like a less than a tiny minute percent of a
Speaker 4: chance that somebody is born great at something. And I
Speaker 4: think that literally, greatness is it's a it's a skill
Speaker 4: that is learned through obsession and dedication and love. Like,
Speaker 4: it's not something like like Jacob always says, Oh, you know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of there's a lot of bullshit psychics
Speaker 4: out there, But I do believe some people are born psychic.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't think so. I don't think anybody's
Speaker 4: born a way, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean I could be it's something that's honed. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: there might, there might be, you know, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: feel like in everything you have to put that time,
Speaker 3: that time into it. You have to pay attention, you
Speaker 3: have to put your attention into it. There's something that
Speaker 3: you have to because nothing's free, dude, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. You have to put something into it to
Speaker 3: get something back.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, I mean even think about it like I'm
Speaker 4: I'm a huge NFL fan, right, I have been obsessed
Speaker 4: with the NFL ever since I can remember. Think about
Speaker 4: it like this Tom Brady, who is arguably, probably I
Speaker 4: don't even want to say arguably, he is the greatest
Speaker 4: quarterback of all time. He has the most championship rings.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was the league's MVP numerous times and
Speaker 4: was is literally in the NFL as the goat, right,
Speaker 4: this fucking guy was a sixth round pick. Okay, a
Speaker 4: sixth rounder, which is the second to last round in
Speaker 4: the NFL draft. Okay, a sixth rounder who was never
Speaker 4: projected to be anything other than a benchwarmer and maybe
Speaker 4: a spot start here and there.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: You literally you see him at the combine before he's
Speaker 4: getting ready to get drafted. He runs like a five
Speaker 4: flat forty, which is literally slower than it's slower than
Speaker 4: syrup that pours out of the bottle, like it is
Speaker 4: it is molasses. Bro Like, how like sickeningly slow? That
Speaker 4: is even for a quarterback. He looked like you you
Speaker 4: would see him like take his shirt off. You'd be like,
Speaker 4: get this fucking dadbod off the field game, like this
Speaker 4: guy whose uncle is this You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: that's what you would think. And then oh, no, big deal,
Speaker 4: he goes on to play for twenty some odd years
Speaker 4: and wins six Super Bowls. It's all about the obsession.
Speaker 4: And that's and I'm not even I'm not even just
Speaker 4: talking about sports. I'm talking about even this stuff like you,
Speaker 4: if you want to really fully harness it and understand it,
Speaker 4: you got to obsess about it. And and that event
Speaker 4: like and this is the thing, Like mystery schools were
Speaker 4: were a real thing. I mean, I think they probably
Speaker 4: still are, but I think we live in the day
Speaker 4: and age of information to where you have the mystery
Speaker 4: school literally in the black mirror of your pocket, like
Speaker 4: it's there. It's just it just needs you and your attention.
Speaker 4: That's it. Yep, Like it's all there. So anyway, all right,
Speaker 4: let me let me stop flapping my gums over here.
Speaker 4: We'll get back to the show. So you are what
Speaker 4: you've been searching for. You've chased angels, you've worshiped gods,
Speaker 4: You've begged the universe for signs. But the ultimate sign
Speaker 4: is you. You are the vessel the Kingdom of heaven
Speaker 4: is in a far off realm. It's encoded in your DNA,
Speaker 4: your breath, your will, you imagine nation. The gods were
Speaker 4: never trying to rule you. They were trying to remind you.
Speaker 4: So so we're gonna take this into our dreams tonight.
Speaker 4: I want something like if you, just if you're listening
Speaker 4: to this before bed, like consciously go into this dream
Speaker 4: world knowing this, even if you even if you have
Speaker 4: to believe it first. Okay, So and just say this
Speaker 4: and this quote right here before you fall asleep.
Speaker 3: Just say this.
Speaker 4: I no longer ask the gods. I no longer ask
Speaker 4: why the gods created me. I ask how I create
Speaker 4: as the gods did.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, I'm gonna try it, dude. That's it, dude.
Speaker 4: So now now we're going to explore how your divinity
Speaker 4: connects to magic, the law of attraction, manifestation, neoplatonism, and
Speaker 4: pantheism because for some of our favorite ones, of course, neoplatonism. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so magic, the art of becoming divine through will. Magic
Speaker 4: is not hocus Pocus, although it's a great movie. Great movies.
Speaker 4: Actually I like the second one more, you like him more? Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're both good they're both fun movies.
Speaker 3: They're both fun. Yeah, I get I get down with them.
Speaker 4: So magic is not hocus pocus. It's focused, it's focused
Speaker 4: will combined with intention. In its truest form, magic is
Speaker 4: the art of aligning your internal state with an external outcome. Rituals, symbols,
Speaker 4: and incantations are just tools for one one goal to
Speaker 4: embody a new reality from within. The wand the candle,
Speaker 4: the circle, these aren't. These aren't what create the effect
Speaker 4: you do. When the magician performs a ritual to quote
Speaker 4: unquote summon power, they're actually activating a dormant archetype inside themselves.
Speaker 4: Aleister Crowley, I mean, you know we will say what
Speaker 4: you will. I mean he was a shithead, but he
Speaker 4: was one of the more famous magicians, Aleister Crowley famous.
Speaker 4: He said, magic is the science and art of causing
Speaker 4: change to occur in conformity with will. And that isn't
Speaker 4: and that will isn't about ego, It's about soul. The
Speaker 4: real power of magic is in the embodiment of gods
Speaker 4: and angels through aligned vibration and focused intention. Literally, you're
Speaker 4: you're aligning your essence with whatever you imagine their essence
Speaker 4: would be and you're just like legit embodying that, right,
Speaker 4: And look, I'm I'm totally I'm totally fine if anybody
Speaker 4: wants to come and challenge this thought process. But what
Speaker 4: I will say is before you challenge it, just try it.
Speaker 3: See if it works. Just try it, see if it works. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's all. Actually I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind having
Speaker 3: some people up, you know that that have a very
Speaker 3: different opinion with how we how we kind of vibe,
Speaker 3: you know, like I feel like that's what that's what
Speaker 3: helped me grow a little bit, just just kind of
Speaker 3: recently with this new job and meeting new people in all.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a really good tool
Speaker 4: to have somebody that's going to contradict your your own
Speaker 4: philosophy and your own spiritual insights because whenever you have
Speaker 4: people that contradict or just argue against it. Maybe now
Speaker 4: because ultimately it's just like it's just like Optimistic said,
Speaker 4: every single person, every single conversation, every single thing that
Speaker 4: happens outside of you, let's just say it for that,
Speaker 4: because nothing's really outside of you, but you know, the
Speaker 4: illusion gives off that it is outside of you. Every
Speaker 4: single thing that happens outside of you is just mirrored
Speaker 4: from the depths of of of within you.
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah that may and that makes so much sense,
Speaker 3: just with how my day went today, how my drive
Speaker 3: home went, and now this this beautiful episode that you're presenting,
Speaker 3: it's just like almost what and what you know? Hey, dude,
Speaker 3: you know shit doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: It doesn't just happen, you know, I know, I ain't
Speaker 4: no coincidences up in Yeah. So so yeah, we got
Speaker 4: into Alistair Crowley The Real Power.
Speaker 3: Uh did I read that? No?
Speaker 4: No, no, okay, So when you become the healer, the warrior,
Speaker 4: or the oracle, your world begins to reflect it. Magic
Speaker 4: is not about controlling forces outside of you. It's about
Speaker 4: awakening the god within and bringing it into emotion. Even
Speaker 4: even the word emotion, Okay, emotion is energy in motion,
Speaker 4: that's right. So whenever you shift your energy m hmm,
Speaker 4: it's an emotion. It's literally by shifting your energy, it
Speaker 4: is an emotion.
Speaker 3: It's so simple, yep. Okay, I just learned that, like
Speaker 3: very recently. Somehow I didn't. I didn't know this, Like
Speaker 3: you told me about this like a week ago or less,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, fuck, that's it.
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm not gonna lie. I got that one from Bashar.
Speaker 4: But he's probably not even the first one either, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: So instead of praying to a god for help, the
Speaker 4: magician becomes the god of that domain. Do you need clarity?
Speaker 4: Invoke Thoth, Mercury or Gabriel and speak their wisdom allowed
Speaker 4: through yourself. Do you need transformation? Light a candle, call
Speaker 4: on Khli or segment. Oh, shout out sec Man. I
Speaker 4: didn't know she was getting a little shout out of this.
Speaker 4: There she go, Hey baby, a girl, how at your boy?
Speaker 4: So yeah, do you need transformation? Light a candle, call
Speaker 4: on Kallie or segment, and dance like fire is rising
Speaker 4: through you. This is how. This is the how of
Speaker 4: divine becoming. I like how they phrased that. This is
Speaker 4: the how of divine becoming a system for tuning your
Speaker 4: frequency to the exact wavelength that shifts reality. Look, I
Speaker 4: mean we talk about all the time about how this
Speaker 4: place is some kind of matrix. Ask me some into
Speaker 4: simulation or some kind of dream world or some kind
Speaker 4: of magical fucking illusion, you know, call it the Maya
Speaker 4: or whatever. But reality is not what we thought it
Speaker 4: was if we're really trying to figure out what is
Speaker 4: the the core? What is reality? How does reality work?
Speaker 4: You know, instead of asking why does gravity work?
Speaker 3: Right? Who would ask that?
Speaker 4: Why would you ask why why does a tree grow?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like why does a grasshopper fucking chirp?
Speaker 3: Just say how? That's right? Just say how?
Speaker 4: Like you're everybody's looking for this philosophical trying to understand
Speaker 4: it in such a And I love philosophy as well,
Speaker 4: but like this this weird philosophical way of like just
Speaker 4: outright coming out and saying that you're never going to
Speaker 4: be able to understand it. It's like I have, literally
Speaker 4: since the beginning, I've always said that I don't accept that.
Speaker 4: I just don't accept that I will never be able
Speaker 4: to understand. Like there has to be a core truth
Speaker 4: that we can get to.
Speaker 3: Right, and you know, maybe we'll get to it, you know,
Speaker 3: but you know maybe on the other side, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I kind of am of the belief
Speaker 3: that it's this thing that maybe we never will but
Speaker 3: maybe I'm being negative about it. You know, maybe we
Speaker 3: will come to some kind of conclusion, but I don't know, dude, I.
Speaker 4: Just feel like, no, I'm not saying that we're going
Speaker 4: to learn everything.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm what the truth is, whatever it really
Speaker 3: really is, you know, without any kind of allegory or
Speaker 3: any kind of whatever it's it's I just don't know
Speaker 3: if it's ever something that we will fully grasp, you know, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know. But that's just me at least as
Speaker 3: it right now.
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this then, not to not
Speaker 4: to challenge you, but to kind of challenge you. Okay,
Speaker 4: whenever you go to sleep at night and you dream,
Speaker 4: who's the god of that reality? Let's say you go
Speaker 4: to a dream and you're in your living with an
Speaker 4: entirely different wife that somehow you just know that she's
Speaker 4: your wife and you love her, with entirely different children
Speaker 4: that somehow you just know and you love them, right
Speaker 4: with an entire different dog. Maybe your name's different, Like
Speaker 4: you're you're living in a state that you've never even
Speaker 4: been to. Because it's a dream. It's not real, right like,
Speaker 4: or at least not real in the sense of what
Speaker 4: we know to be real. Who built that reality?
Speaker 3: See? I would I feel like I would say me,
Speaker 3: you know, because it's happening within my my awareness alone,
Speaker 3: or at least that's what I feel is happening, But
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm actually not sure about that. I mean,
Speaker 3: it would have to be you. But but then we've
Speaker 3: also kind of went over the idea that you know,
Speaker 3: when you dream, you're you're you're actually going somewhere and
Speaker 3: you're actually experiencing something outside of you, you know, And
Speaker 3: so who's to say, you know?
Speaker 4: Well, And that's the thing too, It's that why would
Speaker 4: you limit yourself into thinking that you can't create? Think
Speaker 4: about like lucid dreams for example, right where you become
Speaker 4: aware in your dreams? Right, I mean, they don't happen
Speaker 4: very often for me. I love them when they do, right,
Speaker 4: Like they're awesome, Oh my god, I can fly, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I can you know whatever, Right, they can
Speaker 4: do whatever.
Speaker 3: It's feel like they almost never happened for me, but
Speaker 3: they have had its. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So if you're the only one that is aware in
Speaker 4: that reality that it is a dream.
Speaker 3: Who's the god? Who's the god of that reality? That's interesting? Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you put it that way, it makes so much
Speaker 3: more sense.
Speaker 4: So that's why it's so important to come to this
Speaker 4: level of awareness in this reality to where you're not
Speaker 4: looking outward, to where you don't have to question, like, well,
Speaker 4: I don't know how this great this reality is made.
Speaker 4: Now you just know that it's a gnosis, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like, that's and I think that I
Speaker 4: think that people they they make it so difficult and
Speaker 4: it doesn't have to be that difficult.
Speaker 3: Wow, dude, that's actually very interesting and you can apply that.
Speaker 3: You can to you know, when you're not dreaming.
Speaker 4: Dude, I'm telling you they're like and I freaking love
Speaker 4: optimistic Banks, Like he is one of just the best people.
Speaker 3: Dude. I've been bumping his music hard lately, Like, hey,
Speaker 3: have you heard that one that's most famous? Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a good one. I like the the three three three song.
Speaker 3: Have you heard that one?
Speaker 4: It's But there's just the way that he looks at
Speaker 4: this reality and how it has like literally changed his
Speaker 4: his reality in so many ways. And it's so simple.
Speaker 4: It's so simple that like that pantheism kind of everything
Speaker 4: is one kind of identity like that just it simplifies
Speaker 4: it in that sense.
Speaker 3: I mean he even says, you know, like life is
Speaker 3: but a dream. It's like, oh fuck, you know, like
Speaker 3: how is it that we have so many synchronicities. How
Speaker 3: is it that we're I have a day that perfectly
Speaker 3: almost aligned, almost perfectly aligns with what we're going into
Speaker 3: today and almost having just this clearer understanding that we
Speaker 3: can have that coexist bumper sticker. You know, it's possible.
Speaker 4: And that's why it's so important to learn all of
Speaker 4: them because sometimes you even if you look at an
Speaker 4: entire religion, if you get one thing out of it, dude,
Speaker 4: a game changer. That one little thing could literally be
Speaker 4: a tiny little key to the fucking mansion in your mind. Okay, dude,
Speaker 4: that's it. So so anyway, I'm sorry if I'm coming
Speaker 4: off as like sounding like a know it all. I
Speaker 4: don't like being like that, So I hope I'm.
Speaker 3: Not giving that off. You're just you're just passionate, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just excited. That's the way. That's kind of the
Speaker 3: way I show it.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so now, all right, so we had talked
Speaker 4: about how magic kind of looks at the world in
Speaker 4: this kind of way. Now we're going to look at
Speaker 4: how the law of attraction and then we're gonna go
Speaker 4: down the list law of attraction, manifestation, neo platonism, pantheism,
Speaker 4: and a couple of other things that we're also going
Speaker 4: to get into. But what essentially all of these things
Speaker 4: are saying is the same thing. Stop asking why and
Speaker 4: understand how. That's that's it. That's just the message of
Speaker 4: this entire show. So the law of attraction, Consciousness creates
Speaker 4: oh fuck me, this is a solid line. Consciousness creates
Speaker 4: the mirror.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm yep. I believe that this is the law
Speaker 3: of attraction exactly, the law of attraction. Yep, yep. And
Speaker 3: if you are let's say, you believe in something right
Speaker 3: or you let's say, and I was talking to my
Speaker 3: cowork today about this as far as because you know,
Speaker 3: in his religion and of course a couple others, you know,
Speaker 3: demons are are a very big thing. I mean, they
Speaker 3: even they have exorcists for this kind of thing, because
Speaker 3: obviously you would need an exorcist if demons are getting
Speaker 3: into people. Doesn't happen as often as you would think,
Speaker 3: but apparently it's getting worse. So I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know what's causing that, you know. But so basically
Speaker 3: what we were talking about is that, you know, since
Speaker 3: demons are such a thing, in his belief system. You know,
Speaker 3: I was saying, well, if you think about this way,
Speaker 3: if let's say you think that you possibly did something
Speaker 3: that would open you up enough for a demon to
Speaker 3: embody you, let's say, and then I don't know, maybe
Speaker 3: you see a couple of things that are very coincidental,
Speaker 3: that are are almost symbolic to like maybe the divine
Speaker 3: trying to tell you that you have a demon in you.
Speaker 3: So now you start to get a little bit panicky,
Speaker 3: you know, the paranoia starts to kick in, and now
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you're actually believing it that you
Speaker 3: have a demon inside of you. And now you're starting
Speaker 3: to act differently because of course, why wouldn't you you
Speaker 3: have a demon? And so your now your reality is
Speaker 3: becoming this this thing that you're you're embodying because you
Speaker 3: think and believe. It's so hard, you know. And that's
Speaker 3: what I was trying to tell him, and he's like, no,
Speaker 3: I don't think it works like that. I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, well you know I tried. You know, I
Speaker 3: thought it was a good thought, but.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent and it's funny that you actually had that. Wow,
Speaker 4: so you legit had that conversation today, was it?
Speaker 3: Yes, dude, Yeah, I talked for like an hour or
Speaker 3: two today, like throughout the day, like you know whatever,
Speaker 3: we saw you, like, hey, what do you think about this?
Speaker 3: You know, and just kind of bouncing it off of
Speaker 3: each other. And that's why I think it's really cool
Speaker 3: to have somebody like that, because it's kind of opening
Speaker 3: me up and you know what I'm saying, like it's
Speaker 3: being able to experience other you know, opposition, if you will, bro,
Speaker 3: and not that it's opposition, but a difference of understanding, bro.
Speaker 3: And then I sent you that fucking demon. Yes, wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 4: So literally I saw a video earlier today and I thought,
Speaker 4: holy shit, this is awesome. And I end it over
Speaker 4: to Sean and it was like this, this person that
Speaker 4: was breaking down exactly what a demon is, what a synchronosity?
Speaker 3: Holy shit?
Speaker 4: Yeah that is crazy.
Speaker 3: You know what. Let's just watch so the universe just
Speaker 3: displaying all of this for me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: at least seemingly.
Speaker 4: Dude, We're gonna pull it up now. I feel like
Speaker 4: we should, all right, So we got it pulled up
Speaker 4: right here, and I want everybody just to listen see
Speaker 4: how it feels, all right, because it's certain things like
Speaker 4: this that you that you hear, or that you read,
Speaker 4: or you listen to whatever, and it just resonates. Okay,
Speaker 4: So if you've ever been worried about a demon, listen
Speaker 4: to this and fear not. As the Bible said three
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five times. All right, let's check it out.
Speaker 3: Demon.
Speaker 5: Mon means moon, and moon means emotion, d means negative.
Speaker 5: So a demon is a negative emotion that takes over
Speaker 5: your mind, your body, and your spirit. Every thought you
Speaker 5: think creates an emotion, emotion and his energy in motion.
Speaker 5: And when you repeat the same negative thoughts over and
Speaker 5: over again, you give shape to that energy, and you
Speaker 5: give birth to something. That's something is your demon. Demons
Speaker 5: aren't external forces. They are negative aspects of your own psyche,
Speaker 5: little voices you've created in your subconscious that now control you.
Speaker 5: They started as thoughts, then became emotions, then became patterns,
Speaker 5: and now they live in you. Every addiction, every self
Speaker 5: sabotaging loop is a demon you've given life to. You've
Speaker 5: fed it with your energy, and now it feeds on you.
Speaker 5: But here's the truth. If you created it, you can
Speaker 5: reprogram it comment.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so that's pretty wild, right, Like just I mean,
Speaker 4: of all days that I would send you, and I
Speaker 4: don't really ever send you anything, to be honest, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, I actually had to screen record
Speaker 4: that because you don't even have Instagram anymore, and I,
Speaker 4: you know, texted it to you and I was like, wow,
Speaker 4: you know, And actually, as I was thinking, I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I know that he's having a lot
Speaker 4: of those conversations with that guy at work.
Speaker 3: I wonder if this got brought up well so much
Speaker 3: so that, you know, because and it was working the
Speaker 3: other way around for me too, because you know, he
Speaker 3: he had me watch that interview. I forget the guy's name,
Speaker 3: but he was on the Sean Ryan Show. He's an
Speaker 3: exorcist and he's telling these stories. And of course, you know,
Speaker 3: when when the thing is is when somebody believes something
Speaker 3: without any kind of doubt. You know, that's just the
Speaker 3: reality that they live in, you know, and so when
Speaker 3: they speak about it, it almost gets you to be like, okay,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, wait a minute. You know what, Okay,
Speaker 3: what if I'm wrong, dude? What if you know, here
Speaker 3: we are with some Tarot and I seen a couple
Speaker 3: of videos and they're like, well, pretty much the big
Speaker 3: things that will get a demon in you almost right
Speaker 3: away is Tarot Wiedi Bord and he said a witchcraft
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, I'm just I'm fucked, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And but you start to look into it,
Speaker 3: and you start to kind of fester it, and of
Speaker 3: course that thought will go round and then you're feeling okay,
Speaker 3: and then you'll that that thought will come back around again,
Speaker 3: and then I feel like it'll start to go faster
Speaker 3: and faster, and before you know it, dude, you'd manifested
Speaker 3: it well because your your subconscious mind doesn't know the
Speaker 3: difference well.
Speaker 4: And the thing is is that it can turn into
Speaker 4: a demon in this sense, yes, you know, but absolutely,
Speaker 4: But ultimately, all it is is a thought form that
Speaker 4: your mind obsesses about. And now you're seeing through the
Speaker 4: lens of that thought form, right, like that Tulpa, that
Speaker 4: aggri gore, that fucking whatever that is right and even
Speaker 4: at a subconscious level, whenever you're you know, let's just
Speaker 4: say you are a religious man, right, and you just
Speaker 4: so happen to step outside of the bounds of what
Speaker 4: is okay, and what ain't right? Maybe you decide to
Speaker 4: get a little schwated one night, you have one drink
Speaker 4: too many, and you decide to go home with a
Speaker 4: random person that you shouldn't have gone home with.
Speaker 3: And let's say even.
Speaker 4: For let's make it even crazier. Let's you go over
Speaker 4: to that random person's house and she or he has
Speaker 4: a tarot deck and they're like, hey, you.
Speaker 3: Want to really know what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 4: You know, let me read you real quick, and let
Speaker 4: me just see the energy that you're embodying. And God
Speaker 4: forbid you get the actual devil tarot card drawn for you, all.
Speaker 3: Right, and then you go home. Oh my god, I
Speaker 3: fucking knew it. I knew I was stepping out of
Speaker 3: the bounce.
Speaker 4: God, please please forgive me, please. And God's not going
Speaker 4: to listen to you because you knew you fucked up.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like, there, this is unredeemable.
Speaker 4: It's not possible for you to come back from this.
Speaker 4: And so then the demon continues to eat.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's it, and you just continue to feed it.
Speaker 3: So that's it. I thought that was interesting though. That
Speaker 3: is super interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so very very synchronistic as far as that whole
Speaker 4: thing went. I'm happy you brought that up because I
Speaker 4: was like, holy dude, and a synchronous the like that, Like,
Speaker 4: how many synchronicities do we need to see in order
Speaker 4: to understand that this reality actually is a dream?
Speaker 3: Well? See, that's the thing. I feel like we have
Speaker 3: feelings of that all the time, you know, like we
Speaker 3: understand that there's this is what's going on, and it's
Speaker 3: a lot more magical and and you know, the simulation
Speaker 3: or whatever whatever spin you want to put on it,
Speaker 3: you know, but it then even that is elusive, and
Speaker 3: then you kind of get more grounded and you're you're
Speaker 3: worrying about some physical shit, you know, your bills or whatever,
Speaker 3: and then you start to think that, you know, negative shit,
Speaker 3: like oh well this isn't working out for me, and
Speaker 3: then you kind of lose sense of that, and then
Speaker 3: eventually something else will happen and then it pulls you
Speaker 3: right back in again. It's like a it's like a wave, dude, Well,
Speaker 3: just like everything else.
Speaker 4: And I'll be honest with you, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: put a really fun comparison to this.
Speaker 3: Okay, So.
Speaker 4: I think what's really going on when people see continuous
Speaker 4: synchronicity after synchronicity after synchronous the continual manifestation after manifestation
Speaker 4: after manifestation.
Speaker 3: It's like these.
Speaker 4: Subtle underlings of things that are going on in reality
Speaker 4: that you almost don't want to pay attention to because
Speaker 4: the reality that you build in your mind is so
Speaker 4: structured and it has a great foundation, and you don't
Speaker 4: need these things wrecking that because you're finally comfortable, you
Speaker 4: finally have it all figured out right, But ultimately you
Speaker 4: know what that reality actually is. It is the beauty
Speaker 4: and the Beast syndrome known as Stockholm syndrome. Okay, it's
Speaker 4: not real, Like the reality that we are that we
Speaker 4: think that we're living in is a Stockholm syndrome. Right,
Speaker 4: So if you're not getting to the absolute core of
Speaker 4: what this reality is, you're saying, Hey, I'm okay, I'm okay,
Speaker 4: like living in this fictional reality that I built for myself, right, Like,
Speaker 4: think about it like this. There are couples out there,
Speaker 4: I know a lot of them who let's just say,
Speaker 4: the man has been cheating for a long time, right,
Speaker 4: maybe the wife has even caught him in the act,
Speaker 4: whether texting or emails or maybe in the physical act
Speaker 4: you catch them, right, and and the wife or the
Speaker 4: let's just say the wife, because this is what I'm
Speaker 4: more familiar with.
Speaker 3: Men cheat a lot more than women.
Speaker 4: Let's just be real, and not in all cases, but
Speaker 4: in most cases, I would say, so the wife knows
Speaker 4: all of this. But you know what, dude, that that
Speaker 4: husband or that boyfriend or whatever has said you can't
Speaker 4: make it on your own. It's not possible. Like you
Speaker 4: cannot live without me. You will literally cease to exist.
Speaker 4: You will live in a cardboard box if it wasn't
Speaker 4: for me. Okay, I mean yes, so you caught me cheating.
Speaker 4: So what I come home to you every night?
Speaker 3: Who cares? Right?
Speaker 4: That kind of mentality. So the wife just eventually is
Speaker 4: just like, you know what, I think you're right. I
Speaker 4: don't think that I can't make it on my own.
Speaker 4: I don't think that I could be able to go
Speaker 4: and make a dollar. I don't think that I could
Speaker 4: pay my own rent if I decided to go get
Speaker 4: a job. I don't have any experience. I've been with
Speaker 4: you for so long. I have no experience in anything.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: That woman is Stockholm syndrome. She's seen all the signs
Speaker 4: that she needs to see, She's gotten all the proof
Speaker 4: that she needed to see.
Speaker 3: In her life. Yep. But what does she do? She
Speaker 3: pretends that she didn't see it.
Speaker 4: M Okay, So if we if we can take that
Speaker 4: story and apply it to spirituality, Okay, a lot of
Speaker 4: people are that way whenever it comes to spirituality. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I see the signs, Yeah, I see the synchronicities.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know it's weird that I keep on seeing four
Speaker 4: four four three three three, and I know that that's
Speaker 4: my number. And I know that the universe or God
Speaker 4: or Jesus or whoever is talking to me.
Speaker 3: I just don't know why.
Speaker 4: You know why, you know why you're seeing it? And
Speaker 4: it's just that actually it doesn't even what, It doesn't
Speaker 4: even matter why. It's how how are you seeing right?
Speaker 4: How are you seeing it? The answer is, it's because
Speaker 4: this fucking reality ain't what you thought it was, right,
Speaker 4: This reality is but a dream and it's a it's
Speaker 4: it's it's such an intricate dream to where it is
Speaker 4: the mirror that the consciousness created this reality. As we said,
Speaker 4: you know, that's why we went so so hard on
Speaker 4: all that DMT research because we're trying to figure out,
Speaker 4: like what can DMT teach us about this reality? When
Speaker 4: we figured it out that it only you know, our
Speaker 4: regular brain is only capable of working at five to
Speaker 4: ten percent as opposed to ninety percent on DMT. So
Speaker 4: what that showed us is is this this reality is
Speaker 4: the reality that we experience whenever we are quote unquote sober.
Speaker 4: Is the illusion?
Speaker 3: Well, it is at the very least, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 3: don't mean to cut you off. At the very least,
Speaker 3: it's just a sliver, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even say that. And maybe it's not even
Speaker 3: just the fact that it's an illusion, but it's just
Speaker 3: part of it, you know, because it's definitely a part
Speaker 3: of it, you know what I mean, I don't even.
Speaker 4: Want to say that. I think that if if you're
Speaker 4: looking at anything and you only have ten percent of
Speaker 4: the information, but you're seeing it as if you think
Speaker 4: that it's one hundred percent of the information, that is
Speaker 4: that's an illusion. That's one hundred percent illusion. Think about
Speaker 4: the people who are like like bipolar or schizophrenic. We
Speaker 4: can all look around in this room and say, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's a window we can agree on that, right, So
Speaker 4: we can say that's a that's a door back there,
Speaker 4: that's a TV mounted on the wall, that's a computer,
Speaker 4: computer rate in front of me. We can agree on
Speaker 4: these things, right, that's about ten percent of the real
Speaker 4: truth of the reality. Meanwhile, the schizophrenic is seeing goblins
Speaker 4: fucking crawling on the walls.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's always got to be goblins.
Speaker 4: Dude, or something. You know what I'm saying, Like, there's
Speaker 4: always something extra. And so that's not reality, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3: The reality. I don't talk about the reality. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's their reality.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, And so we could say that this
Speaker 4: reality that we live in is the human reality mm hmm,
Speaker 4: because I mean we're not just the humans as we
Speaker 4: talked about before. Actually I heard this, uh, this one
Speaker 4: awesome quote and I believe that it was actually in
Speaker 4: a in one of the Optimistic Bank songs and he
Speaker 4: uh it might have been from Alan Watts now that
Speaker 4: I think about it, where he goes, when you pour
Speaker 4: water into a glass, it becomes the glass, right yep,
Speaker 4: So is water glass?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, but that's where it's contained, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Right, Okay, But whenever it's in the glass.
Speaker 4: I mean, hey, you don't you don't know anything otherwise,
Speaker 4: you're just looking at it. Hey, it just looks like
Speaker 4: a glass, looks like there's something in there, right, right.
Speaker 4: But the water it didn't really have it didn't really
Speaker 4: have a say so about where it wanted to be poured,
Speaker 4: you know, it just it was just like, oh, r, yeah,
Speaker 4: I guess I'm going here. You're pushing me here, right,
Speaker 4: But that's not all the water is, you know. That's
Speaker 4: kind of what I'm trying to say here is that
Speaker 4: we're the information that we have is through human eyes,
Speaker 4: and yes, that is correct. As a human, you're not
Speaker 4: going to figure it all out. And so as a human,
Speaker 4: this is the reality. This is the world of the humans, right.
Speaker 4: But the reality of the situation is is that we
Speaker 4: are not that we are temporarily that we are Like
Speaker 4: whenever I get into my vehicle, like so if if
Speaker 4: a water, if whenever water is poured into a glass
Speaker 4: and it becomes the glass, that is very similar to
Speaker 4: saying whenever I jump into my vehicle, I am the vehicle.
Speaker 3: You become the car. I mean, I've had plenty of
Speaker 3: different cars in my life.
Speaker 4: You know, like I guess I would have died I
Speaker 4: don't know, ten twelve times by now, you know if
Speaker 4: you look at it through those lenses.
Speaker 3: So anyway, we're getting real crazy over here. Sorry about that.
Speaker 3: This shit just hyiced me up. Reality is just the
Speaker 3: level of perception, you know, That's really what it is.
Speaker 4: Absolutely so the law of attraction. Now we're finally going
Speaker 4: to get back to it. Consciousness creates the mirror. So
Speaker 4: the law of attraction is the mainstream whisper of an ancient,
Speaker 4: esoteric truth. Your inner state manifests your outer world. Law
Speaker 4: like attracts like, not just because of energy, but because
Speaker 4: of identity. When you dwell in lack, you attract lack.
Speaker 4: When you dwell in abundance, opportunity begins to recognize you.
Speaker 4: It's not about begging the universe to give you what
Speaker 4: you want. It's about embodying the version of you that
Speaker 4: already has it. In this way, the law of attraction
Speaker 4: is simply magic without the ropes. Right where most people
Speaker 4: get stuck is asking why their manifestations haven't shown up.
Speaker 4: But the real question is how they are showing up
Speaker 4: right now in subtle ways. Your your current thoughts beliefs
Speaker 4: and habits are rituals already casting spells every day. Let
Speaker 4: me read that one again, all right, let me just
Speaker 4: let me just fucking go over that again. Your current thoughts, beliefs,
Speaker 4: and habits are rituals that are already casting spells every
Speaker 4: single day.
Speaker 3: And it's and that's so true, dude. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you're in your mind saying you're a victim, well, I
Speaker 3: mean you're going to be a victim. You know, you're
Speaker 3: going to see all the signs that point to that,
Speaker 3: you're not going to see a victim. Just be totally
Speaker 3: successful and believe they're a victim. No, yes, that doesn't
Speaker 3: line up there.
Speaker 4: There's never been a successful victim in the history of ever, right,
Speaker 4: not one that's played a victim is entire life anyway,
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that victim, you know, transforms himself or herself
Speaker 4: or whatever and becomes more than just the.
Speaker 3: Because now they are in their mind more than just
Speaker 3: a victim exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, you're do do let me
Speaker 4: find I keep on losing where I'm at here.
Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.
Speaker 4: The moment you stop waiting and start choosing the moment
Speaker 4: you act as if you already are who you.
Speaker 3: Want to be.
Speaker 4: The mirror of reality shifts. This is divine alignment in motion.
Speaker 4: Even Jesus echoed this when he said, whatever you ask
Speaker 4: in prayer, believe that you have received it, and.
Speaker 3: It will be yours. That's a manifestation, dude.
Speaker 4: The wise sage, the wise sage that Jesus was, had
Speaker 4: it right there in.
Speaker 3: The book, right there, Dude, it's there. Why is that
Speaker 3: so so hard to understand?
Speaker 4: That's what I don't get well, because people just you know,
Speaker 4: they've they've and this is everybody, everybody's been brainwashed that
Speaker 4: stop imagining things. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 4: imagination is connected with children as much as.
Speaker 3: Alcohol is to alcoholics. Mm hm, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like, and so we were taught that, oh, imagination, that's
Speaker 4: that's just for kids. I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 3: And so, but but it's a powerful tool. So why
Speaker 3: would you just let that tool go right? You know?
Speaker 4: Like and and so we've almost been kind of conditioned
Speaker 4: in a sense not to believe or not to imagine anything.
Speaker 4: And it almost feels silly because it's like what am
Speaker 4: I playing with?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: With barbies or or ken dolls or whatever. Now I
Speaker 4: have to imagine a little reality for them. It's like, hmm,
Speaker 4: I mean, think about the world that those kids are
Speaker 4: creating in their rooms every day.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah. One of my my not the same
Speaker 3: cowork but the other dude that I that I talk to,
Speaker 3: you know, he and you know, there's a little bit
Speaker 3: of a language barrier between him and I. Sometimes I
Speaker 3: feel like I say something and he's not fully understanding
Speaker 3: what I said, you know, just because of that. But
Speaker 3: he said something along the lines of and he's Christian,
Speaker 3: you know, but he was saying something along the lines
Speaker 3: that that like art like because we were talking about tattoos,
Speaker 3: you know, and of course that's kind of one of
Speaker 3: those things it's like you're not supposed to do, you know,
Speaker 3: and so it's it's sinful, but which is fine if
Speaker 3: that's what we want to believe, you know, that's totally cool.
Speaker 4: Well, you know where that actually comes from is because
Speaker 4: you're not supposed to like, you're not supposed to taint
Speaker 4: your temple because people think that the temple is the body,
Speaker 4: that this is the divine vessel. Whenever it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: you could look at that in multiple different ways. A
Speaker 4: lot of people's temple, especially within magic and witchcraft and
Speaker 4: you know, manifestation and law of attraction all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff.
Speaker 3: The temple is the mind, it's not the body, right right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And well, well where it went was he got into
Speaker 3: art because I said, well, you know, it's art, you know,
Speaker 3: like art's cool, you know, and and he was like, no, no, art,
Speaker 3: Art is like one of those things that's from the devil,
Speaker 3: you know, art. And he said something about the imagination
Speaker 3: and I and I questioned about that. I said, you know,
Speaker 3: what do you mean the imagination? I said, And maybe,
Speaker 3: like I said, there's a language barrier, so maybe he
Speaker 3: meant to say something else. I will say that. But
Speaker 3: I was like, well, look at this thing right here.
Speaker 3: It took someone's imagination to think about what this should
Speaker 3: look like and how how it needs to be in
Speaker 3: order for it to work the best way, the most
Speaker 3: efficiently in all of this. And and he was just saying, yeah,
Speaker 3: like art and music. I said, well, music is art,
Speaker 3: you know. He's like, no, no, no, it's not. And
Speaker 3: so I couldn't really get anywhere with him. But he
Speaker 3: was just saying like art was something like it's from
Speaker 3: the devil, you know, and like entertainment and all of that,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, he he's like Pentecostal. So I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's like something a little more different. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure. I don't know a hardcore dude. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't know what. I don't know. But yeah, so it
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know art, even art, you know.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, it's kind of taking
Speaker 3: it too far thing, but I mean, you know, it
Speaker 3: works for him.
Speaker 4: I guess if if art is evil, then you would
Speaker 4: have to say that God is evil.
Speaker 3: Well, because I asked him that too, I said, well,
Speaker 3: I feel like art comes from God, you know, like
Speaker 3: your imagination and your ability to create something and you know,
Speaker 3: like and not to argue with him, of course, you know,
Speaker 3: but it was just like, I don't know, we just
Speaker 3: definitely had a difference of opinion. I said, well, I
Speaker 3: just don't agree with that, you know, and and that
Speaker 3: was that. But I feel like, you know, art and
Speaker 3: being able to create and make something beautiful would be
Speaker 3: from God. But what do I know? You know? What
Speaker 3: am I? Yeah? Who am I? You're just a sinner?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, it's even it's funny though that he
Speaker 4: would even say that that music is evil. Now, there
Speaker 4: is a lot of very bad music out there, Like
Speaker 4: the music industry is an absolute cess.
Speaker 3: Poll Well, he goes there. Sometimes he goes there as
Speaker 3: far as like, well, the people in Hollywood, and he
Speaker 3: gets he almost sounds like a conspiracy theorist, almost like
Speaker 3: he's almost like right there, you know, And but yeah,
Speaker 3: so I don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 4: Mainstream music. A lot of mainstream music is absolutely dark
Speaker 4: and coming from an evil place one hundred percent. Like
Speaker 4: you look at some of the the record labels and
Speaker 4: the producers and and and stuff like that. Like I've
Speaker 4: been following, there's this there's this one rapper who's been
Speaker 4: making it big on his own, right, and so there
Speaker 4: was this one record label that he's a he's a
Speaker 4: Christian rapper as a matter of fact, And he went
Speaker 4: in to U to a record like a record place, right,
Speaker 4: maybe to talk a contract, maybe get signed uh to
Speaker 4: a record label, right, And the guy goes, all, right, well, there,
Speaker 4: we only have a couple of rules. You can never
Speaker 4: mention God, you can never mention Jesus, you can never
Speaker 4: mention being saved. But other than that, you're good, and
Speaker 4: he goes, you know, I'm a Christian thing. He's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm a Christian rapper, right, And he's like,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you just can't. Like that's that's the rule
Speaker 4: of the music industry, Like you're not allowed to talk
Speaker 4: like about those things in light and and so yeah,
Speaker 4: actually I'm not saying all record labels are like that,
Speaker 4: but i will say the main record labels are absolutely
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: That's why you.
Speaker 4: See all the satanic symbolism at the halftime shows and
Speaker 4: and all of Lady gagas and Dose of Cats songs
Speaker 4: and like you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean there is a there is a like like crazy, nasty,
Speaker 4: evil side of the mainstream music industry.
Speaker 3: Now. To say that all music is evil is that's
Speaker 3: that's a super He he was going on to say
Speaker 3: that music wasn't art, and I was like, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure it is. You know, like you're you're expressed because
Speaker 3: you said no, art is when you when you paint
Speaker 3: something and you're expressing, you know, through painting, And I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: music is the same thing. It's it's putting words and
Speaker 3: rhythm to to expressing your your feelings or how you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, what you're going through or what
Speaker 3: have you. I feel like, but we just of course
Speaker 3: we disagreed, and you know, that was that but just
Speaker 3: interesting though at the very least to have that perspective,
Speaker 3: you know, of how someone else sees it, and you know,
Speaker 3: as far as yeah, sure, there's there's a lot of
Speaker 3: evil in the world, and I don't know, I just
Speaker 3: I don't want to live in that reality, you know,
Speaker 3: and sure maybe maybe maybe maybe that makes me lazy,
Speaker 3: maybe that makes me passive or I don't know, you
Speaker 3: label it however you want, but you know, I just don't.
Speaker 4: I'm just looking at that like, man, his poor kids
Speaker 4: aren't allowed to have crayons, Like how far does it?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: But uh but yeah, I mean I I understand his
Speaker 4: hesitation behind it, but to group it all together like that,
Speaker 4: that's just anytime you group anything together, it's it's usually incorrect.
Speaker 4: So so anyway, yeah, I mean, that's that's a very
Speaker 4: limited and fearful kind of mentality, which is what we
Speaker 4: aim to break people free from on this show, is
Speaker 4: to liberate people's minds with information and hopefully they can
Speaker 4: take a lot of this information and apply it and
Speaker 4: almost use it as like a fire extinguisher. Extinguisher to
Speaker 4: the fear of that is like manifesting fire into your
Speaker 4: mind that is causing you to be scared all the
Speaker 4: time kind of thing. But anyway, all right, let's get
Speaker 4: back to it here. Sorry, we keep on going off
Speaker 4: on tangents, but these are fontangents.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's important, you know, because these are
Speaker 3: people's you know, how they really feel and how they
Speaker 3: see the world. And that's what we're here to do too,
Speaker 3: you know. I want to express and or explore rather
Speaker 3: other people's experience and beliefs and try to get it
Speaker 3: all to fit together somehow.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, one hundred. That's I'm happy you're doing that.
Speaker 4: So when most people get stuck. When most people get
Speaker 4: stuck is asking why their manifestations haven't shown up. But
Speaker 4: the real question is how they are showing up right
Speaker 4: now in subtle ways. Your current thoughts, beliefs, and habits
Speaker 4: are rituals already casting spells every single day. I'm just
Speaker 4: kind of going over this last paragraph to get us
Speaker 4: back in the groove here. The moment you stop waiting
Speaker 4: and start choosing, the moment you act as if you
Speaker 4: already are what you want to be. The mirror of
Speaker 4: reality shifts. This is divine alignment in motion. Then we
Speaker 4: talked about how Jesus said, whatever you ask in prayer,
Speaker 4: believe that you have received it and it will be yours.
Speaker 4: That is not future tense hoping, that's present tense embodiment.
Speaker 4: So the law of attraction is not about attracting with desperation,
Speaker 4: but magnetizing through identity shift. You become a vibrational match
Speaker 4: by stepping into the energy field of your desire. You
Speaker 4: don't wait for the thing. You become the type of
Speaker 4: being who already lives there, who already has the.
Speaker 3: Thing, right, Okay, And so if your manifestation hasn't come yet,
Speaker 3: then you just aren't quite that embodiment of the person
Speaker 3: that would obtain that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And even like you know Jim Carrey for example, Funny
Speaker 4: Literally yesterday I just showed my daughter The Mask because
Speaker 4: she'd never seen Oh my god, dude, that movie still holds.
Speaker 3: Up because just two nights ago, my wife was like,
Speaker 3: we need to show them that because we were scrolling
Speaker 3: through the movies and because I was like one of
Speaker 3: those movies that we wanted to show the kids, and
Speaker 3: we were scrolling through. She's like, oh, the mask. We
Speaker 3: need to show them the mask. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 4: That's so funny, dude, It's so funny still you know,
Speaker 4: holds up yeah, yeah, and so uh but yeah, we
Speaker 4: we just watched that yesterday and and I was just thinking, like,
Speaker 4: as far as manifestations, for example, and I like to
Speaker 4: bring up Jim Carrey because he has a lot of
Speaker 4: good examples. He talked about whenever he was a little kid,
Speaker 4: he used to always like want this bike and like
Speaker 4: this bike. All of his friends had it, and it
Speaker 4: was just the most sick bike. But he grew up
Speaker 4: really poor. He was like, uh, you know, living in
Speaker 4: his car, and he's funny. So he made a joke
Speaker 4: out of it, and he was like, you know, we
Speaker 4: live in Canada, so I thought we were just camping,
Speaker 4: you know, and uh and and so eventually, you know,
Speaker 4: he he's like trying to without even knowing it, manifests
Speaker 4: this bike in his reality, and what you know it
Speaker 4: he ends up getting one for his birthday, the exact
Speaker 4: one that he always.
Speaker 3: Wanted with the banana seat and everything right.
Speaker 4: And the crazy thing is I believe that he never
Speaker 4: even asked his parents for it because he knew that
Speaker 4: they didn't have any money, so he felt bad even asking,
Speaker 4: but then he just ended up getting it right. Another
Speaker 4: one was, you know, the blank check right that he wrote.
Speaker 4: So he goes, you know what, one day, and this
Speaker 4: is before he ever made it big at all, but
Speaker 4: he goes, one day, I'm gonna I'm gonna make a
Speaker 4: million dollars, and so he just took like a blank
Speaker 4: check and he wrote a million dollars paid to the
Speaker 4: order of Jim Carrey, right, And he kept that in
Speaker 4: his wallet for I don't know how long, a year
Speaker 4: or five years, ten years, whatever it was, but he
Speaker 4: kept in his wallet, you know. And then what you know,
Speaker 4: it like his first like big hit film where he
Speaker 4: made a lot of money was Dumb and Dumber, right, right,
Speaker 4: which he made Yeah.
Speaker 3: Or wasn't a spencer Okay, I thought it was a thinger.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm pretty sure it was Dumb and Dumber. I
Speaker 4: could be wrong on that, but they all kind of
Speaker 4: came around that it came out the same time anyway.
Speaker 4: But anyway, from that Dumb and Dumber movie, he got
Speaker 4: paid a million dollars like right of the dot, right,
Speaker 4: and so I mean call it just coincidence, but he
Speaker 4: was he believed in it. He believed in himself. He
Speaker 4: knew that if he put the work in, he would
Speaker 4: eventually be able to achieve these things. And so that's
Speaker 4: kind of how manifestation works. Some people get manifestation wrong
Speaker 4: and they say, you know what, I'm just gonna sit
Speaker 4: my ass on discouch and I'm just going to giy
Speaker 4: and embody whatever kind of vibration I need to be
Speaker 4: in that's going to get me this or that.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, it is.
Speaker 4: It is emotion. And also but remember emotion is energy emotion, right,
Speaker 4: so you need the energy you need to get up
Speaker 4: and be able to do it all and everything, but
Speaker 4: you also want to incorporate that that essence of whatever
Speaker 4: it is, and that is ultimately the secret to manifestation essentially.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I love that story, you know, because that
Speaker 3: check was sitting in his pocket, you know, and obviously
Speaker 3: he's doing the work, you know, of course, but that
Speaker 3: check was always his, you know, in his mind, it
Speaker 3: was his already, and so yeah, dude, it's.
Speaker 4: Perfect one, no thing for him to just go and
Speaker 4: cash it. Of course, it's like there's no like the
Speaker 4: universe or God doesn't make mistakes. Bro, you know, like
Speaker 4: it's that's that's just how it is. But anyway, and
Speaker 4: that brings us right too. Manifestation creating as the gods did.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: Manifestation is not about making things happen, it's all It's
Speaker 4: about allowing what is already encoded in your soul, in
Speaker 4: your soul blueprint, to emerge in the physical form. It
Speaker 4: begins with being, not doing. Most people manifest from stress
Speaker 4: and urgency, but real manifestation comes from inner stillness and belief.
Speaker 4: It is the divine feminine re paired with the divine
Speaker 4: masculine directing. This is the energetic polarity that births worlds,
Speaker 4: just like Brahma and Saraswati, Shiva and Shakti. Just going
Speaker 4: a little Hindu there. To manifest means to materialize a vibration.
Speaker 4: You cannot attract peace if you are vibrating in fear.
Speaker 4: You cannot manifest love if you are steeped in self hate.
Speaker 4: Manifestation is not mental wishing, it's embodied knowing. In neoplatonic terms,
Speaker 4: the material world is a shadow cast by the form
Speaker 4: the higher ideal, the form or the source re member.
Speaker 4: He kind of went back and forth, the form, the source,
Speaker 4: or the one the higher ideal. So to manifest you
Speaker 4: return to the source within yourself, align with that original intention,
Speaker 4: and let it express through the field of your life.
Speaker 4: Practical magic, then, is not is not superstition, its embodiment.
Speaker 4: Want to manifest healing, seek health into your cells, want
Speaker 4: to manifest purpose, speak identity into your actions. It's not
Speaker 4: just affirmations, it's alignment. That's the difference between manifesting from
Speaker 4: ego and manifesting from soul. You don't manifest what you want,
Speaker 4: you manifest what you are.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, God, I love this stuff.
Speaker 4: So now let's get over to Neoplatonism. In neoplatonism, all
Speaker 4: emanates from the One right. Neoplatonism is the philosophical root
Speaker 4: of much mysticism and magic, and it teaches that all
Speaker 4: reality emanates from a single infinite source called the One.
Speaker 4: The One is beyond name, form or thought. Everything that
Speaker 4: exists is simply a degradation of that pure light into
Speaker 4: more specific vibrations. You me, the Gods, the angels, all
Speaker 4: fractals of the same eternal flame. Neoplaton Neoplatonism says we
Speaker 4: are not separate beings on a mission to reach the divine,
Speaker 4: We are the divine on a journey back to remembering Platinus,
Speaker 4: the founder of neoplatonism. Remember it was Plato and then
Speaker 4: Platinus turned it into neoplatonism. He wrote that the soul
Speaker 4: falls into incarnation by forgetting its origin. But the path
Speaker 4: of return is not through religious obedience, but through intellectual
Speaker 4: and spiritual ascent. You meditate, you strip away illusion, you
Speaker 4: unify opposites, and slowly the soul returns to its source.
Speaker 4: This mirrors exactly what Carl Jung later described as individuation.
Speaker 4: You become whole, and in doing so you reunite with
Speaker 4: the one. So when you stop asking why and instead
Speaker 4: ask how do I send ascend back into unity, you
Speaker 4: are walking the neoplatonic path. You embody the divine by
Speaker 4: first realizing that nothing in you is separate from it.
Speaker 4: All the gods are within you, all the angels are
Speaker 4: emanations of your higher soul. This isn't This isn't a metaphor.
Speaker 4: It's metaphysics. To think is to separate. To know is
Speaker 4: to reunite. Oh to know is to be dude. You know,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I could just I could just like,
Speaker 4: I want to learn this every second of every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, And I feel like that's what we're doing,
Speaker 3: you know, as far as remembering, we're going through this
Speaker 3: journey and as far as if you want to talk
Speaker 3: about awakening, it's like nature makes no mistakes, you know,
Speaker 3: and so when you go through something like this, and
Speaker 3: regardless of what belief system or path you take, I
Speaker 3: feel like they all lead you to whatever that is,
Speaker 3: you know, and we're all just on that journey, you know,
Speaker 3: and you go through that awakening and nothing is what
Speaker 3: you thought it was, or at the very least the
Speaker 3: reality that you constructed over time, you know, just growing
Speaker 3: up and going through certain circumstances and happenings, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's like, oh, this is just
Speaker 3: kind of not made up, but at least put through
Speaker 3: this particular filter, you know. And so when that comes off,
Speaker 3: it's like, sure, it might be painful, it might be jarring,
Speaker 3: you know, but it's necessary because we are all just
Speaker 3: on this long journey of remembering what the fuck it
Speaker 3: really is. You know. That's it, dude.
Speaker 4: It's just a journey to remember because you've like, where
Speaker 4: do you think you were before you incarnated as a human? Like,
Speaker 4: here's the the the real, like real shit about all
Speaker 4: of it is. Even the first law of thermodynamics says
Speaker 4: that energy can't be created nor destroyed, only transferred. So
Speaker 4: we weren't even created. Okay, we weren't never created, We
Speaker 4: were never destroyed, We only transferred. We are an energy, right.
Speaker 3: And the energy that is us has always existed since
Speaker 3: the beginning of time, even if there was I don't
Speaker 3: even know if there was a beginning of time, but
Speaker 3: but yeah, it always has been. It just all has been.
Speaker 4: Everybody's always trying to figure out, well, you know, when
Speaker 4: when is the the end of the world gonna happen?
Speaker 4: Or when was the universe created? Or when is the
Speaker 4: universe going to end?
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, why are you assuming shit like human queries,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because we can't fathom the idea that something has always
Speaker 4: and will always and will continue to always be.
Speaker 3: And that's what we are.
Speaker 4: We are eternal beings. We're living this temporary human life
Speaker 4: that we are not human like we're we're in a
Speaker 4: human but we're essentially like like in venom like you've
Speaker 4: seen the New Venoms with Tom Hardy and stuff like that. Right,
Speaker 4: we are the symbiote.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's the best way we can put it.
Speaker 3: So and most don't even have a choice in the matter,
Speaker 3: you know, or maybe we did. We probably don't know.
Speaker 4: We probably did. That's the thing, you know, is that
Speaker 4: Alan Watts was like, you know, like imagine you know
Speaker 4: that whole thing about like if you're the creator and
Speaker 4: you're lonely and you're trying to forget about how lonely
Speaker 4: you are, so you have you just create and divide
Speaker 4: yourself and divide yourself and divide yourself, and but then
Speaker 4: you beat all those realities where you divided yourself because
Speaker 4: you already know the whole divine truth and everything. And
Speaker 4: then eventually you're just like, you know what, let me
Speaker 4: really fuck myself up here and make myself forget.
Speaker 3: And that's that you're having the dream at all.
Speaker 4: See, And that is philosophical, But it's not to say
Speaker 4: that it's wrong, right, you know. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: sit here and say that I absolutely absolutely know that
Speaker 4: that's right, but I will say that's the closest to
Speaker 4: the right answer that I've ever gotten right, And like you.
Speaker 3: Said before, you know, we don't need to look at
Speaker 3: everything so literally anyways, you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 3: all just kind of that that part from Wall Street
Speaker 3: just it's it's a woozy, it's a whatever, crazy gazi. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's like it doesn't even matter really, that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So so now let's get to pantheism. This is going
Speaker 4: to be the last one of the spiritual outlooks that
Speaker 4: we look into, and pantheism God is all, and all
Speaker 4: is you. Pantheism offers a radical truth. God is not
Speaker 4: a person watching creation. God is creation. Every tree, every atom,
Speaker 4: every star, every heart beat, all is divine. This means
Speaker 4: you are not part of God. You are God in
Speaker 4: a unique expression. The ocean doesn't contain the wave. The
Speaker 4: wave is the ocean momentarily expressing itself. When you inhale,
Speaker 4: the universe exhales. When you create, God creates. This understanding
Speaker 4: collapses all separation. There is no external savior coming because
Speaker 4: you are the Savior. There is no other place where
Speaker 4: Heaven exists, because it is right here, disguised as matter.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 4: I love that Pantheism shows us that every act is sacred.
Speaker 4: Brushing your teeth, making love, speaking words. It's all the
Speaker 4: divine experiencing itself through you. When you stop trying to
Speaker 4: find God and start recognizing God in everything, your life.
Speaker 3: Becomes a temple. Your life becomes a temple. How about that?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I love it, I love it, But then I also
Speaker 3: know that that's gonna ruffle feathers, you know, for something
Speaker 3: that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 4: We're not asking everybody to just blindly believe. I mean, look, everybody,
Speaker 4: everybody listening to, everybody here is on their own journey
Speaker 4: to truth. And some people they find a good a
Speaker 4: good resting stop and they and they that's that's all
Speaker 4: they need and no need to go any farther, right,
Speaker 4: and and that's there's nothing wrong with that and that
Speaker 4: and I don't even want to demean it by saying
Speaker 4: that it's just a resting spot and it's not even
Speaker 4: the end, because who are we to say what the
Speaker 4: end is? You are like, you are an emanation of God,
Speaker 4: You are an emanation of the whole. Wherever you decide
Speaker 4: to stop is the finish line.
Speaker 3: And that's the right place, of course, because nature and
Speaker 3: God and the divine, It makes no mistakes.
Speaker 4: Yes, so Alan wattsone said, God, I love these Alan
Speaker 4: watts quotes here. But Alan wattsone said, you are an
Speaker 4: aperture through which the universe is looking at and exploring itself.
Speaker 4: An aperture is like the lens on the camera thing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's pantheism. You are not broken. You are the cosmos
Speaker 4: trying on a human mask. When you ask how you
Speaker 4: can embody divinity, Pantheism answers be what you already are,
Speaker 4: live in alignment with they all, and you will never
Speaker 4: be out of sync again, because every step becomes sacred,
Speaker 4: every breath becomes a prayer.
Speaker 3: Some things you just read nice about that, dude, you know,
Speaker 3: really is like you're doing what the universe is doing.
Speaker 3: You know, like when something just isn't going right, it's like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, that's just what the universe is doing right now.
Speaker 3: It's what's supposed to be happening. And there's the reason
Speaker 3: I just don't know what it is right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, and that's that's all right. I mean,
Speaker 4: we're that's what this whole show is about. We're just
Speaker 4: trying to figure it out, and we may never get there.
Speaker 4: That's totally fine, but we're gonna die trying, right.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So we've talked about how, you know, other quotes and
Speaker 4: and other philosophical insights and religious insights and mystical insights
Speaker 4: about how to explain the idea of shifting from.
Speaker 3: Why to how?
Speaker 4: So now, how do we embody it in actuality in practice?
Speaker 4: How can we literally do this on a daily basis?
Speaker 4: What do we need to do in order to start
Speaker 4: living this way instead of just like thinking that it's
Speaker 4: a cool thing to listen to, right, Okay, So the
Speaker 4: first principle is you are the Temple. There's just something
Speaker 4: about that name, dude, about that word, because you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, I was adopted whenever I was three years old.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: And well, I mean I still have the same mom,
Speaker 4: but my dad, my stepdad, adopted me. I don't even
Speaker 4: call him stepdad. I'm not gonna get into all that.
Speaker 4: He's my dad, right. I was adopted whenever I was
Speaker 4: three years old. My original last name is Temple.
Speaker 3: I just love that.
Speaker 4: I would never change it back because I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to dishonor anybody or anything. But it's pretty cool though.
Speaker 4: So the first principle is you are the temple before
Speaker 4: you do anything else. The listener needs to understand this.
Speaker 4: You are not seeking divine power, you are the vessel
Speaker 4: of it. This reframes everything. We're not reaching upward, we're
Speaker 4: reaching inward. So we have a daily practice here. You
Speaker 4: need to build your inner alter, inner alter. We're not saying,
Speaker 4: you know, you need to go get the sword and
Speaker 4: the shield and all that like you can. But the literally,
Speaker 4: even in magic, whenever they have all those things, they
Speaker 4: only have them as symbols that they can see and
Speaker 4: use in their meditation. They're just physical representations of what
Speaker 4: they're going to see in their mind.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: So you want to build your inner temple. The quote
Speaker 4: here is gods don't wait, they create, and creation starts
Speaker 4: in silence.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. That's that sound like yeah.
Speaker 4: But so what you would do to practice this you
Speaker 4: would sit in stillness for ten to fifteen minutes each day,
Speaker 4: whether it's listening to silence, stillness, whatever, meditation. Even give
Speaker 4: yourself ten to fifteen minutes a day. It's not a lot,
Speaker 4: all right, literally, I mean some people take forty minutes
Speaker 4: on the shitter, all right, give yourself ten minutes you know,
Speaker 4: doing nothing. Yeah, break yourself off a piece, you know, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: And as you sit in that stillness for ten to
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes every day, visualize your spine as the axis Monday,
Speaker 4: which is the world tree or the stairway to Heaven
Speaker 4: also known within Norse as yid yoursel, or the tree
Speaker 4: of life, the baballistic tree of life, whatever you want
Speaker 4: to look at it, the world tree, the stairway to Heaven.
Speaker 4: Breathe into your heart center and say this internally. I
Speaker 4: am the source, I am the spark. I remember who
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: Just say that that's heavy. That's that.
Speaker 4: So this trains the nervous system to recognize stillness as power,
Speaker 4: not passivity. You're not meditating like a monk. You're accessing
Speaker 4: your command center.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 4: Because it's there, dude, it's you know, dude, We've experienced it.
Speaker 4: It's absolutely there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Nextly, you would want to use divine speech. Everybody knows
Speaker 4: this one, and if you don't, now you do thought
Speaker 4: plus word. So a thought plus a word out of
Speaker 4: your mouth equals manifestation.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: The quote is the gods created with the word. So
Speaker 4: do you your inner voice? I'm sorry, Your voice is
Speaker 4: is your wand if you speak limitation, you cast limitation.
Speaker 4: If you speak truth and alignment, you reshape your reality.
Speaker 4: So how would you practice this? You would practice this
Speaker 4: by beginning each day with spoken intention. Very easy, you're
Speaker 4: just saying things. But you would say these three things.
Speaker 4: I walk in power, I carry divine insight, I harmonize
Speaker 4: with universal law. So you would use this formula. And
Speaker 4: so it's actually a formula. Rate here what do I want?
Speaker 4: Plus what do I need to become? Equals? You would
Speaker 4: speak as if it's already done. Okay, So what do
Speaker 4: I want?
Speaker 3: What do I become? Or what do I need to become?
Speaker 4: And then you would speak as if you already became.
Speaker 3: That right when you're speaking. I mean, that's that's just vibration.
Speaker 4: You know everything Nikola's esla. Everything is energy frequency and vibration,
Speaker 4: the like most like influential mathematician and scientific guy of
Speaker 4: all time, outside of even Einstein, but even Einstein probably
Speaker 4: vibe with him.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, real recognize real.
Speaker 4: So an example of this, what you what you might
Speaker 4: say if you're trying to what do I want? What
Speaker 4: do I need to become? And then you'd speak as
Speaker 4: if it's done. An example of that would be I
Speaker 4: am becoming the version of me that heals others with
Speaker 4: presence and brings wisdom with every word I speak. Just
Speaker 4: say that, and not only just say it, you literally
Speaker 4: want to.
Speaker 3: You don't believe it, you don't have faith in it.
Speaker 3: You know it?
Speaker 4: Okay, this is the line belief. You be it, you
Speaker 4: know it, you are it what you say as it
Speaker 4: just said.
Speaker 3: Your words are your wand.
Speaker 4: Okay, your fucking Mickey mouse out there. You got a
Speaker 4: wand And the next thing, you know, whatever you want happens.
Speaker 4: So I am becoming the version of me that heals
Speaker 4: others with presence and brings wisdom with every word I speak.
Speaker 4: Of course, you can write out your own spell or
Speaker 4: your own you know, affirmation or whatever, and so you
Speaker 4: say it every day, and whatever you're trying to become,
Speaker 4: you say it every day. Eventually those words are going
Speaker 4: to vibrate back.
Speaker 3: To you.
Speaker 4: And eventually you start becoming that.
Speaker 3: And see this is this is I think you know,
Speaker 3: people might find that hard to believe, but we were
Speaker 3: just speaking on the negative affirmations that you tell yourself,
Speaker 3: you know, if you're stressed out or things just just
Speaker 3: aren't going your way, you know, and you have little
Speaker 3: that little voice in the back of your head that's
Speaker 3: just like, you know, you're a real piece of shit,
Speaker 3: and you know, and then you start to see more
Speaker 3: of that, that proof that you know, and so you're
Speaker 3: already you know, you might already be doing that and
Speaker 3: so but it's just harder to believe that you could
Speaker 3: flip that on its head and do it the other
Speaker 3: way and make something positive, because not as many people
Speaker 3: do it. You know, it's just easier, for whatever reason
Speaker 3: we've gone over this, it's just so much easier to
Speaker 3: do it in a more negative way. And so, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the same thing, dude, it's the same thing,
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 4: And a lot of these sayings we've heard throughout our
Speaker 4: whole life.
Speaker 3: How about this one. The guy who thinks he can
Speaker 3: and the guy who thinks he can't are both right,
Speaker 3: that's right? And hearing that as a kid, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: And I've also heard you know, people say, many people
Speaker 3: that we've even had in our podcast on their shows,
Speaker 3: you know, saying that when you speak about your problems,
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're literally using that vibration. We were
Speaker 3: just talking about you're speaking your problems out into the universe,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like, whenever you talk about your problems,
Speaker 3: your problems seem to persist or even get worse. And
Speaker 3: so you're already doing it, you know, just flip it exactly, dude.
Speaker 4: And like there's actually for for the biblical people out there,
Speaker 4: there's actually things within the Bible, like even I think
Speaker 4: Jesus was taught like trying to basically teach people how
Speaker 4: to fast correctly. And one of the things that he
Speaker 4: said was he goes, look, whenever you're fasting, don't tell anybody.
Speaker 4: Don't don't say a word about it, because everything that's
Speaker 4: gonna come out of your mouth, you are going to
Speaker 4: be so poor me. It's not even gonna be funny.
Speaker 4: Don't speak that because literally, when you're fasting, purpose it's dude,
Speaker 4: fasting is to get rid of things. And so now
Speaker 4: whenever you're speaking, oh my god, I'm so hungry, or
Speaker 4: somebody feel bad for me attaching, you just injected more
Speaker 4: poison into your body. Right, that's all you did. So
Speaker 4: it says, this isn't fluff. It's neural reprogramming plus vibrational calibration, right, perfect.
Speaker 4: So nextly we get into invoking archetypes embody the gods within.
Speaker 4: So the quote is, don't to gods, invoke their qualities
Speaker 4: and wear them like armor.
Speaker 3: That's bablable. Yep. Put on the armor of God every
Speaker 3: day that you wake up. That's what the Bible says. Yep.
Speaker 4: So each deity or angel is a frequency. You tune
Speaker 4: into them, not by belief, but by acting in alignment
Speaker 4: with their essence, something we kind of talked about earlier.
Speaker 4: I was hoping we were going to get a little
Speaker 4: bit more into this. So the practice that you would
Speaker 4: do to achieve this, you would pick a divine archetype
Speaker 4: each week, maybe you wanna call on Athena or Michael,
Speaker 4: Archangel Michael Thoth, whoever it is.
Speaker 3: Pick one of them per week.
Speaker 4: Study their qualities, their wisdom, their justice, their power, their insight,
Speaker 4: their transformation, whatever. Just obsess about that one deity, that
Speaker 4: one archetype per week. This is actually a great.
Speaker 3: Path they are. This is a great practice.
Speaker 4: I would actually I would love to learn a lot
Speaker 4: more about Archangel Raphael and Archangel Michael.
Speaker 3: Yep, because I tell you wish you would just be
Speaker 3: doing anyways, you know, just for the show.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure, and everybody really if you're trying
Speaker 4: to take on the essence that's literally even the people
Speaker 4: that are in magic in fucking uh. Even Lord Byron
Speaker 4: talks about this like he studies all these demons, he
Speaker 4: studies all the angels, he studies all the gods. Because
Speaker 4: the more information he has whenever he's doing a spell
Speaker 4: or whatever he's doing right like that is going to
Speaker 4: make the spell that much more powerful because and maybe
Speaker 4: he doesn't even know it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: But this is actually what he's trying to do, is
Speaker 4: that he's trying to paint a more clearer picture of
Speaker 4: that energy, that person, that deity, that god, whatever, so
Speaker 4: that now you can even more fully encompass the essence
Speaker 4: of that character.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Like they say, like you know,
Speaker 3: know thyself. You know, if you want to become the
Speaker 3: best version of yourself, you've got to figure out who
Speaker 3: you are. So if you're trying to embody some type
Speaker 3: of energy from some other you know, archetype or what
Speaker 3: have you, of course you don't want to know what
Speaker 3: that even looks like. And now you know what it
Speaker 3: looks like and what it should feel like, and what
Speaker 3: you're capable of when you successfully embody that.
Speaker 4: Dude. I know people who like what do they call
Speaker 4: Jacob calls them chicken soup for the soul. Christians, which
Speaker 4: are basically like Christians that they might read a Verse
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, my God, Jesus is literally the best,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of thing that really they don't really
Speaker 4: know a whole lot about the Bible. They never really
Speaker 4: read a Verse themselves. They only go to church on Sundays,
Speaker 4: like he calls them. Also the christ Christians, which are
Speaker 4: basically the Christmas and Eastern Christians, which I think is
Speaker 4: pretty funny. Actually, Yeah, even a lot of those people
Speaker 4: like their faith in Jesus or their faith in God,
Speaker 4: or their faith in their biblical understanding, even if it
Speaker 4: no matter how minute it is, they're still seeing like
Speaker 4: miracles and manifestations and all these crazy things. Right, but
Speaker 4: maybe it would get a little bit more deep the
Speaker 4: more you understood it. Right, So in this way, if
Speaker 4: you really took on the full essence of this character, well,
Speaker 4: how are you gonna take on the full essence of
Speaker 4: a character you don't have all the information? Well, what
Speaker 4: what what I was just saying is is that even
Speaker 4: if you have a tiny bit of information about said character,
Speaker 4: you can still encompass even that little bit of essence
Speaker 4: and it still works. So imagine what happens whenever you
Speaker 4: start to fucking you obsess about one character for an
Speaker 4: entire week. Oh my god, you're gonna be so unstoppable.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be insane.
Speaker 4: You're gonna be fucking calling lightning strikes out of the sky.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be weird, dude. It's gonna get when you know,
Speaker 3: it's really interesting too, because you know, you mentioned Jesus,
Speaker 3: and whenever, whenever something scary happens, and people just even
Speaker 3: even people that might may not even be that that religious,
Speaker 3: you know, might even think of, you know, depending on
Speaker 3: how scared they are of what's going on, they might
Speaker 3: say his name as well, because like it's it seems
Speaker 3: like somebody that would kind of have the ability to
Speaker 3: embody all of it, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: what what is it that Jesus can't do that that
Speaker 3: one of the other archetypes can do, you know, So
Speaker 3: it's almost just like a it's a go to you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, He's the man right, it's the
Speaker 3: full on like uh, all encompassing.
Speaker 4: He's the wild card. You use him as anything, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Yeah, and even like.
Speaker 3: El the Alchemist, Jesus, of course he's going to help you.
Speaker 3: You know, why wouldn't he?
Speaker 4: Right, and even out El the Alchemist whenever he was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean whenever I go in and and and I
Speaker 4: go into people's houses to to to do exorcisms and stuff,
Speaker 4: he goes, yeah, I mean, if you're a Christian, I'll
Speaker 4: call on Jesus, I'll call on any angel whatever you want,
Speaker 4: and it works, and he goes. But the thing is
Speaker 4: is that, you know, if you don't really care who
Speaker 4: I call on, I'll also call on Satan and it
Speaker 4: works the same exact.
Speaker 3: Way, right right, But you know, you know, do what
Speaker 3: you will with that, you know, I mean, if it works,
Speaker 3: it works, but I mean not for me. But you believe.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's because he believes that it works, yes,
Speaker 3: then it will. That's what it takes. That's the elixir,
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So where were we? Okay?
Speaker 4: So you would pick a divine archetype. Each week you
Speaker 4: would study their qualities, and then each morning you would
Speaker 4: declare this sentence, I embody archetype name, I walk in
Speaker 4: archetype names power. So for example, I embody thor I
Speaker 4: walk in their in his strength or whatever. Right, and
Speaker 4: then throughout the day you would ask how would this
Speaker 4: being respond to this situation? Or ww jd am I right?
Speaker 4: Over time, these frequencies rewire your character. M hmm, yeah,
Speaker 4: of course they do. Yeah, Like if you're going to
Speaker 4: go into a situation where there's like some big wigs
Speaker 4: in the room, you know, and you don't want to
Speaker 4: shrink down. You don't want to you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: you want to stand in your power. Of course, if
Speaker 4: you call on Thorpe and you're gonna walk in there,
Speaker 4: you're gonna be standing a little more taller. You might
Speaker 4: even feel as though you got a little more muscle mass,
Speaker 4: who knows, you know what I mean. But it's gonna
Speaker 4: make you, in your mind feel as though you were
Speaker 4: embodying that that you know, what power looks like, and
Speaker 4: what's somebody that needs to be respected?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: What's this has been literally ever since I was a
Speaker 4: little kid, and I'm so I've always been so suggestible,
Speaker 4: and I even I try to be that way even
Speaker 4: in reality. Like, for example, whenever we have a guest
Speaker 4: on here or guests on the Cult of Conspiracy, whatever,
Speaker 4: I whenever somebody is telling their story, they have a conspiracy,
Speaker 4: they have an opinion, they have a theory, they have this,
Speaker 4: they have that, I assume that every single word that
Speaker 4: they are saying is absolutely correct. Not because I'm just
Speaker 4: really nearly ready to believe in every single thing, but
Speaker 4: because I know that in order for me to get
Speaker 4: on the same wavelength and to try and understand it
Speaker 4: from that person's perspective, I need to believe every fucking
Speaker 4: word that they say. That's just how my mind works personally.
Speaker 4: Is that not what we're talking about right here? That
Speaker 4: like literally like so in essence, I'm almost kind of
Speaker 4: literally in essence taking on their essence in order to
Speaker 4: see through their eyes.
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yes, Yes, And that's exactly what. Yeah, That's what
Speaker 3: I've been going through lately, dude. When when I'm talking
Speaker 3: to these guys and they believe so much and what
Speaker 3: they believe in, I'm not so much looking for something
Speaker 3: to tell them to make them like think that they're wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to them in their bubble. You know, a
Speaker 3: genuine curiosity interesting because I want to know more, you know,
Speaker 3: I want to just understand that as much as I can,
Speaker 3: you know, so that I can even understand myself even more.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's why we interact with other people, because,
Speaker 3: like you said, the mirror, you know, that's it.
Speaker 4: It's all a mirror. Every sing at even my hand
Speaker 4: is a mirror.
Speaker 3: My dude. You know, I'm not gonna get too weird.
Speaker 3: All right, let's just keep going because I real quick,
Speaker 3: just to go off of what you're saying. As far
Speaker 3: as the people that you have on your show, it's
Speaker 3: like you you go into their bubble, you know, because
Speaker 3: you know that the way that they feel about it
Speaker 3: is that it's absolutely real and whatever they're talking about
Speaker 3: is real, Like absolutely they're they're they're not just making
Speaker 3: ship up spot right, and so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, their reality, it's that's the truth. That's their truth,
Speaker 4: you know. And so and it's kind of like, let
Speaker 4: me step into your aura right quick, see what that's like.
Speaker 4: You know, that should be the new pickup line at
Speaker 4: any bar that anybody goes to.
Speaker 3: Just step into your aura right quick, let me see
Speaker 3: what that aura do?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: All right, let's move on all right. So the next
Speaker 4: one is we got a shadow work, very important shadow
Speaker 4: work integrate the opponent.
Speaker 3: Ooh kay.
Speaker 4: Interesting, So the only thing separating you from godhood is
Speaker 4: that is that you refuse to face with Uh wait,
Speaker 4: let me say this correctly. The only thing separating you
Speaker 4: from godhood is what you refuse to face within yourself.
Speaker 3: Makes sense? Wow?
Speaker 4: So no god or mystic ever ascended without descending first.
Speaker 4: To become whole, you must integrate shadow, the fears, the wounds,
Speaker 4: the habits, and the lies that block your light.
Speaker 3: So how would you.
Speaker 4: Practice at working on this? Of course, there's journaling, So
Speaker 4: you would ask yourself a couple of questions. You'd say,
Speaker 4: what part of me do I fear expressing? And what
Speaker 4: belief am I ready to release today?
Speaker 3: To journal this?
Speaker 4: Then, so you'd ask yourself the question, maybe pick one
Speaker 4: right and just focus on one thing at a time.
Speaker 4: You're not trying to crush the whole thing in one second.
Speaker 4: And then you would sit in meditation and you would
Speaker 4: call forth a painful memory or a part of yourself
Speaker 4: and you would say, I see you, I forgive you,
Speaker 4: I reclaim your power.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's such we should have started there. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that's the first movement. You can't you can't build
Speaker 3: a house on some shitty foundation. No, you got to
Speaker 3: redo that foundation first.
Speaker 4: There's no such thing as building a house in the void.
Speaker 4: And if everything you got is literally a vacuum sucking void,
Speaker 4: that is just going to dispose of everything, And it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter your thoughts, it doesn't matter your manifestation, doesn't
Speaker 4: matter anything that you're trying to create if it's not
Speaker 4: built on fucking sturdy ground. This is why, dude, shadow
Speaker 4: work is so important. And where do you do most
Speaker 4: of your shadow work?
Speaker 3: Well, it says it right here.
Speaker 4: You sit in meditation and you call forth a fameful
Speaker 4: memory or part of yourself. This is why we literally
Speaker 4: meditate every single episode. Yes, if you are not meditating,
Speaker 4: you are doing it wrong. Just understand, like the first
Speaker 4: part of any kind of spiritual anything, it must involve meditation.
Speaker 3: There is no other, dude. Yeah, because you know, I've
Speaker 3: gone through different things, man, where I'm trying to think
Speaker 3: of a certain situation or maybe a decision I made
Speaker 3: that you know, I'm trying trying to figure out if
Speaker 3: I if I made the right decision, or what have you,
Speaker 3: but I'm also driving to work, and I'm also you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, maybe I'm running late, and there's
Speaker 3: all these things happening. It's just like you're just barely
Speaker 3: touching on little things and you can't really fucking just
Speaker 3: going to a meditation and you quiet all that shit.
Speaker 3: Nothing outside of you is even existing. Now You're just there, oh,
Speaker 3: d for as long as you.
Speaker 4: Want, dude. It's literally like, imagine imagine your your kid.
Speaker 4: You at one point in time, you had three kids
Speaker 4: in diapers, so I already know you understand what fucking
Speaker 4: chaos is.
Speaker 3: Towards the end, do we were just buying one size
Speaker 3: for fits all? Dude? I was like, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not doing the three different sizes. You know,
Speaker 3: it could be a little big whatever.
Speaker 4: But you remember how having three kids and diapers, nothing
Speaker 4: could ever be clean, nothing could ever be organized. Everything
Speaker 4: is always fucking messy, Every every single thing is chaotic, right,
Speaker 4: and so just imagine it like this. Let's say your
Speaker 4: kids they go into like your game cabinet. Let's say
Speaker 4: you have a game cabinet, right, they go into your
Speaker 4: game cabinet, they open up the box of dominoes, and
Speaker 4: what they do is they empty out the dominoes and
Speaker 4: they just fucking scatter them right, like they're just tossing
Speaker 4: them all like they're Frisbees. Just like there's the double six,
Speaker 4: We're gonna toss that one in the toilet, there's the
Speaker 4: the three to one, We're gonna toss that one, and
Speaker 4: Daddy's pillowcase or something like that, right yep. And you're like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm never going there's so many dominoes
Speaker 4: and there's no way I'm ever gonna be able to
Speaker 4: find them. You know what, I'm just gonna start throwing
Speaker 4: them in the trash because there's no point in even
Speaker 4: picking any of this shit up.
Speaker 3: Because nobody wants to build a puzzle.
Speaker 4: No, it's like the people that buy puzzles from the
Speaker 4: good will store, Like that's a risk, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's one of the riskiest things you could do. We're
Speaker 3: on the fence about using the Wigi board, but we're
Speaker 3: both against spying a puzzle from goodwill. You're setting yourself
Speaker 3: for that matter, Yeah, you're setting yourself up for failure,
Speaker 3: right and disappointment.
Speaker 4: But imagine, so, uh, we're gonna use the dominoes as
Speaker 4: an allegory for all of our ship that we haven't
Speaker 4: dealt with in our life. That is all stacking up
Speaker 4: and just building one big ship mountain.
Speaker 3: Okay, m hmm yep.
Speaker 4: And it's all scattered everywhere, and you don't even know
Speaker 4: where to start because you can't see the top, and
Speaker 4: the base is so damn wide that you know it's
Speaker 4: gonna it's literally going. You're gonna have to manifest God
Speaker 4: powers just to be able to fucking try to to
Speaker 4: take all this down. So all those dominoes, they're scattered everywhere,
Speaker 4: and you don't really know what to do. But what
Speaker 4: you do, what you could do is go into meditation.
Speaker 4: Right once you're in meditation, wrote not only and I
Speaker 4: don't mean this literally, none and none of nothing in
Speaker 4: the show is literal, So don't take it little. Everything's allegorical.
Speaker 4: But whenever you go into meditation, those dominoes, if you
Speaker 4: shut the fuck up for ten minutes, if you just
Speaker 4: shut it off, like completely, just say, I don't even
Speaker 4: give a shit what my thoughts are. They're not me,
Speaker 4: they're not anybody. All they are is remnants of past
Speaker 4: thoughts or whatever. Right, yep, just turn it off for
Speaker 4: ten minutes. Dude, those dominoes fucking jump back in the box.
Speaker 4: They don't even care where they're hiding. They don't care
Speaker 4: if they're in your pillow, they don't care if they're
Speaker 4: in the toilet, they don't care if you know they're
Speaker 4: whatever drawer they're in doesn't matter. You don't even have
Speaker 4: to find them. They just jump back in there, and
Speaker 4: somehow the the lid closes, it shoves itself back in
Speaker 4: the drawer, and it's almost as if the kids didn't
Speaker 4: even throw them around everywhere. Yep, that's that's literally, that
Speaker 4: is how meditation works. So not that, not that I'm
Speaker 4: the first person to say, you know how meditation works,
Speaker 4: but that's my own. I love playing dominoes, so I
Speaker 4: had to throw.
Speaker 3: That one out there. Great, dude, No, I loved it.
Speaker 3: It's perfect.
Speaker 4: So it says, this is how the fractured self becomes
Speaker 4: the divine self by reclaiming all the lost pieces. Wow,
Speaker 4: I didn't even see that, and that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Maybe I subconsciously saw it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, who knows. That's weird.
Speaker 4: So the next one is sacred ritual, So you would
Speaker 4: turn daily acts into divine practice. The quote is gods
Speaker 4: don't have to do more. They do everything with presents.
Speaker 4: Don't think that you need robes or candles or temples.
Speaker 4: Every act becomes divine when done with awareness and intention.
Speaker 4: So the practice you would do, you would make some tea,
Speaker 4: not trum tea, just black tea, whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Make some tea, say a prayer as the water boils.
Speaker 4: Then you would take a shower. Visual or you don't,
Speaker 4: don't like, boil the water and then go take a shower.
Speaker 4: These are separate things. So you'd make a tea and
Speaker 4: then you would say a prayer as the water boils.
Speaker 4: That's one practice that you can do. A separate one
Speaker 4: is you would take a shower and visualize old energy
Speaker 4: washing off and new light ceiling in. Next, the next
Speaker 4: thing you could do is work out, and then when
Speaker 4: you're done working out, or as you're working out, you
Speaker 4: would declare this, I am sculpt I am sculpting the
Speaker 4: avatar of the divine.
Speaker 3: That's cool. That's probably what everyone asks you. What you're doing?
Speaker 3: You know, it gets weird. I would just say it
Speaker 3: or go for it, you know, I know you would. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would say, brother, what are you gonna do? You know,
Speaker 3: hal Coke and South. Yeah, but hey, that's on some
Speaker 3: real ship.
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't have to say to everybody else,
Speaker 4: but just just like an internal conversation with yourself, you.
Speaker 3: Know, so uh pretty sweet? Love it.
Speaker 4: So when your entire life becomes ritual, it becomes ritual.
Speaker 4: You no longer separate spiritual from material. You live as
Speaker 4: a god. That is awesome, you know. One of the
Speaker 4: fut actually the final one, The final practice that we
Speaker 4: have is silence and listening access the nosis. The quote
Speaker 4: is nosis doesn't come from belief, it comes from direct experience.
Speaker 4: The final and most important piece is to listen, not
Speaker 4: to me, not to religion, but to that silent, eternal
Speaker 4: presence in you that always knows. So as a practice,
Speaker 4: what you do is each night, before you go to sleep,
Speaker 4: you would ask this to yourself, show me the next
Speaker 4: layer of who I really am. Then you'd keep a
Speaker 4: dream journal. You're unconscious is the temple of nosis. You
Speaker 4: would notice the synchronicities, the gut feelings, the sudden clarity.
Speaker 4: These are not coincidences. They are messages from the divine Self,
Speaker 4: your higher being. So out of all these different practices,
Speaker 4: we listed six. I'm sure there's plenty more. These are
Speaker 4: just six examples. So you'd pick one practice, commit to
Speaker 4: it for a week, don't try to believe it, just
Speaker 4: do it and watch what starts to.
Speaker 3: Shift in your life.
Speaker 4: Because becoming as God's is not about escaping the world.
Speaker 4: It's about mastering yourself in it. And nosis doesn't come
Speaker 4: when you beg for it. It comes when you finally
Speaker 4: stop waiting.
Speaker 3: And choose to remember, dude. And that's, you know, out
Speaker 3: of all these practices, I'm sure once you start doing it,
Speaker 3: that's the easy part, the actual practice of it. You know,
Speaker 3: it's easy because you start doing it, you start seeing results,
Speaker 3: and you start just doing it more. The hard part
Speaker 3: is just starting it, you know, as with anything with dieting,
Speaker 3: with exercise, with any practice, just starting is the hard part.
Speaker 4: Acts absolutely, And do we always say like, I don't
Speaker 4: think that there's any one journey that the fool goes on,
Speaker 4: Like I might be at I don't know, the Tower
Speaker 4: part of the journey in one aspect of my life,
Speaker 4: But then I could be at the lover's part of
Speaker 4: the journey, and another aspect of my life, I could
Speaker 4: be at the fool's part of the journey in.
Speaker 3: That aspect of my life.
Speaker 4: And so you can literally apply all of this to
Speaker 4: every single aspect. There is nothing that it doesn't apply
Speaker 4: to literally everything. You want to learn how to shave better,
Speaker 4: you want to learn how to drive better, you want
Speaker 4: to learn how to be a better lover, you want
Speaker 4: to learn how to be more empathetic, whatever the case.
Speaker 4: You want to learn how to be a better parent,
Speaker 4: whatever the case is. You can literally encompass every single
Speaker 4: part of this episode into that aspect of your reality.
Speaker 4: Like this is where people get it fucked up. They
Speaker 4: separate reality from spirituality. No, that is the worst thing
Speaker 4: that you can do. These are not separate worlds. It's
Speaker 4: the same world happening. All of it is all happening
Speaker 4: right now, always has been, always will be.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's it. So stop asking why and just ask how,
Speaker 3: Just ask how.
Speaker 4: I do have one more thing that I do want
Speaker 4: to say as a final message here. Okay, So the
Speaker 4: final message is is that the truth has always been
Speaker 4: inside you.
Speaker 3: That is the g nosis. Okay.
Speaker 4: You don't need to believe anything that you heard tonight.
Speaker 4: This isn't about faith. It's about remembrance. You've been trained
Speaker 4: to look outward for answers to gods, to institutions, to gurus,
Speaker 4: to external validation. But everything you've searched for already exists
Speaker 4: inside you. The power, the love, the clarity, the ability
Speaker 4: to create your reality. It's all in you, not symbolically
Speaker 4: literally all in you. Angels, gods, archetypes. They're not floating
Speaker 4: beings waiting for your devotion. They are blueprints of human potential.
Speaker 4: They are states of consciousness, and you have full access
Speaker 4: to every single one of them, not when you die,
Speaker 4: not if you're good enough right now. The reason the
Speaker 4: world teaches you to ask why is because why keeps
Speaker 4: you stuck? Why leads to confusion. Why puts the power
Speaker 4: outside of yourself. But when you ask, how, everything shifts?
Speaker 4: How do I embody strength? How do I become the
Speaker 4: love I keep waiting for? How do I align with
Speaker 4: the truth I already feel deep in my gut? Here's
Speaker 4: the key.
Speaker 3: You already know the answer.
Speaker 4: You always have that uncomfortable feeling when something outside you
Speaker 4: tells you to obey, follow, or wait. That's your inner
Speaker 4: nosis calling bullshit. This isn't a theory, it's your birthright.
Speaker 4: The same force that forms galaxies and birth stars is
Speaker 4: alive in you. It's not a metaphor. It's physics, it's biology,
Speaker 4: it's consciousness. You're not just made in the image of
Speaker 4: the divine. You are the Divine experiencing itself in human form.
Speaker 4: So stop asking why the world is the way that
Speaker 4: it is, and start asking how can you transform it
Speaker 4: by becoming who you truly are. No more waiting, no
Speaker 4: more hoping, no more outsourcing your power. The gods didn't
Speaker 4: create you to worship them. They came to remind you
Speaker 4: that you're one of them.
Speaker 3: Now you know, not.
Speaker 4: Because I told you, but because you felt it all along.
Speaker 4: And I do want to say this, And this is
Speaker 4: where your awakening.
Speaker 3: Just began.
Speaker 4: Okay, but it doesn't stop there. Now that you have
Speaker 4: sparked the inner nosis, what do you do with it?
Speaker 3: That's the question? Oh dude, beautiful, I love that. And
Speaker 3: if this is somebody's first Men in Mystery episode, wow,
Speaker 3: I hope. So they're just gonna be a little disappointed
Speaker 3: when they listen to like episode one, They're gonna be like, Wow,
Speaker 3: these guys have come a long way. I think they're like, wait, why.
Speaker 4: Are they talking about conspiracies.
Speaker 3: Fuck, who is this guy? Yeah, that's fucking funny, dude,
Speaker 3: I got a tarot card. If you're ready, man, let's go.
Speaker 3: And I think it's kind of interesting just the imagery
Speaker 3: of this, but uh, it is the uh the Six
Speaker 3: of Pentacles. Think of what they were called? We love
Speaker 3: Pinnacles though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I wonder if he's gonna say
Speaker 4: the card that I'm on, because I was on the
Speaker 4: Six of Wands and you were like of and I
Speaker 4: was like.
Speaker 3: So and real quick. It's kind of just interesting, you know,
Speaker 3: because the images of this dude like holding a Oh
Speaker 3: I forget what that thing is called. But he's like
Speaker 3: dropping some bread crumbs. It looks at least it looks
Speaker 3: like bread crumbs, you know. And it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I feel like every episode we just stumble upon just
Speaker 3: a couple more bread crumbs.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, this meaning of this card is absolutely perfect
Speaker 4: for this episode.
Speaker 3: Holy hop, all right? Cool.
Speaker 4: The Six of Pentacles Give it and receiving opens the
Speaker 4: flow of prosperity in your life. Always give what you
Speaker 4: would like to receive. Wow, you are met with generosity
Speaker 4: and even exchange when you draw the Six of Pentacles
Speaker 4: and this card, a wealthy man offers coins to people
Speaker 4: who are kneeling before him. His body position is above theirs,
Speaker 4: yet he holds a scale in his hand as a
Speaker 4: reminder that equality is important, as is sharing what you
Speaker 4: have with those who have less. This card is much
Speaker 4: about giving generously as it is about receiving graciously. Altruistic
Speaker 4: and genuine acts of support are the hallmarks of this card.
Speaker 4: The spiritual message behind it says an inheritance or unexpected
Speaker 4: gift is coming to you, or you're considering donating to
Speaker 4: charity or someone in need, consider passing along items from
Speaker 4: your closet or home to those in need, since doing
Speaker 4: so will create space to receive from other sources. The
Speaker 4: meanings of this card is generosity and sharing resources. If
Speaker 4: we didn't just share a resource, I don't know what
Speaker 4: we shared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, And as far as you know, putting in
Speaker 3: what you're trying to receive or are trying to get
Speaker 3: out of something. You know we're talking about trying to
Speaker 3: learn how to play an instrument, Well, you got to
Speaker 3: put in those hours of practice and really immerse yourself
Speaker 3: and put in that time to receive the ability to
Speaker 3: play whatever instrument. That is, you know, And yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of what he was holding because for
Speaker 3: some reason, I thought there was like some fancy name
Speaker 3: for it. And You're like, he's holding a scale. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking idiot. I just thought there was like
Speaker 3: a fancy name for that type of what. You know.
Speaker 4: Anyways, I mean it's like a liber scale kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that was That was great.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it says the numerology for this card is six. Obviously,
Speaker 4: it's a six of pentacles, which stands for harmony and generosity.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: And if this show wasn't if this show wasn't about harmony,
Speaker 4: it's literally about synthesizing your energy and connecting it and
Speaker 4: merging it with yourself, as if like you're the human
Speaker 4: version of the avatar, connecting it, connecting your hair to
Speaker 4: the tail of the dragon avatar. You're just connecting with
Speaker 4: the energy of that thing to be able to move it,
Speaker 4: guide it, demand from it whatever you need from it. Right,
Speaker 4: You're just embodying that. So how are we going to
Speaker 4: apply this to our lives? I mean, I mean I'm
Speaker 4: not saying that specifically to you, but I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 4: is there a way that we can embody this and
Speaker 4: practice this, like, I mean ritually daily, however you want
Speaker 4: to look at it.
Speaker 3: But I hope that everybody got a little something from this.
Speaker 4: I definitely did from a dude, I spend so much
Speaker 4: time researching for this episode.
Speaker 3: Oh it looks like it, dude. It really shows.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of passion, and I feel like
Speaker 3: that people are going to get something out of it,
Speaker 3: you know, not to persuade them that what we're saying
Speaker 3: is right but almost not the opposite of that, but
Speaker 3: but just that everybody's kind of right, and that you know,
Speaker 3: whatever reality and whatever thing you want to put your
Speaker 3: mind into, then that's the right one if you really
Speaker 3: want it to be that, you know, and if it
Speaker 3: brings you peace and we can all get along, man,
Speaker 3: you know, that's it, dude.
Speaker 4: I mean, whether you're somebody who believes in fairies elves,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. I mean, all of these things exist
Speaker 4: on a personal level to you, and that's really all
Speaker 4: that needs to exist. You don't need whenever you were
Speaker 4: a little kid, you didn't need validation that your imaginary
Speaker 4: friend was was real from anybody, right, You didn't need
Speaker 4: validation that your barbie had somewhat of a somewhat of
Speaker 4: a weird like attitude to her, right, Like you just
Speaker 4: gave her that or if if you, I don't know,
Speaker 4: whatever you did whenever you were a little kid, you
Speaker 4: applied imaginations to these things, and that's.
Speaker 3: All this is saying.
Speaker 4: You are taking an imagination, an archetype of a person,
Speaker 4: of a of a deity, of a being, of a whatever,
Speaker 4: and instead of expressing that imagination outwardly to the toy
Speaker 4: or the doll or whatever you did when you're when
Speaker 4: you were a little kid, you are now incorporating that
Speaker 4: energy and you're wearing it literally as an armor. You're
Speaker 4: wearing it as the skin of that person. Like, I mean,
Speaker 4: that's that's dude. I think that this has to be right,
Speaker 4: Like it feels right to say it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you know, and the one thing I
Speaker 3: wanted to say too is that you know, no matter what,
Speaker 3: we are all connected for sure, with only the illusion
Speaker 3: of division. That's all. That's all it is, dude. It's
Speaker 3: don't even trip, trip, don't even trip because you're already tripping,
Speaker 3: you know, right probably, So yeah, well, I guess we're
Speaker 3: going to get to the UH to the meditation here.
Speaker 4: I don't know what meditation we're going to get to,
Speaker 4: but if you want to be able to listen to
Speaker 4: our uh our meditation and also be able to join
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Speaker 4: want to be able to get the shows literally the
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Speaker 4: watching you know, the the video of us or the guests,
Speaker 4: or sometimes we pull up articles or videos or anything
Speaker 4: like that. You want to become more fully inclusive and
Speaker 4: completely immerse yourself into this nosis, into this learning, into
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Speaker 4: that we're on. You know you want to join us
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Speaker 4: That is the best way to be able to support us.
Speaker 4: And we appreciate all of the one who have supported
Speaker 4: us in that way. We love you very much. Thank
Speaker 4: you so much for believing in us, Thank you so
Speaker 4: much for being interested in what we have to say,
Speaker 4: and hopefully we entertain you a little bit.
Speaker 3: Along the way as well. Very beautifully said dude. And
Speaker 3: I just want to say one more thing, Dude, I
Speaker 3: love this shit, you know, I do love it. I
Speaker 3: do love it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess we'll wrap it up right there.
Speaker 4: We're going to get to the meditation. For those that
Speaker 4: are joining us on Patreon, just hang tight here for
Speaker 4: a minute. But if you can't join us on Patreon,
Speaker 4: or you haven't joined us on Patreon, then this is
Speaker 4: where we leave you. And what we like to say
Speaker 4: is that if why left the building and how came
Speaker 4: back home, and this is what it taught you, It's
Speaker 4: that you don't know what you don't know, So don't
Speaker 4: just get weird.
Speaker 3: Stay weird.
Speaker 2: Inside color soul stars, in.
Speaker 3: The mysteries you find. Oh yeah, baby, that's where it's at.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I love that long one. Dude. That was great. Isn't
Speaker 3: there something a little more to that? You know you
Speaker 3: start to I don't know. For me, it felt like
Speaker 3: there were certain things, uh like illumination, you know, like
Speaker 3: it was kind of flickering and like getting a little
Speaker 3: brighter and then kind of dimming away. Like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: like I was observing some sort of light, you know,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call that.
Speaker 4: But you had to say illumination, didn't you. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 4: because I was legit just thinking. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's funny I'm wearing so obviously I'll know. I have
Speaker 4: a conspiracy podcast. So this shirt I bought jokes and
Speaker 4: it's uh, it has an owl on it and it
Speaker 4: says Illuminati confirmed. Just gonna wear it to Brohemian Grove
Speaker 4: just to ruffle some feathers. But but I was just
Speaker 4: thinking at the end, I was like, oh, that's funny that,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm wearing this Illuminati shirt. And I was like, well,
Speaker 4: what they say the Illuminati is supposed to stand for,
Speaker 4: not saying that it does, is that it just means
Speaker 4: the the illuminated ones, you know, like the path is lit,
Speaker 4: the like there's a light that kind of goes off,
Speaker 4: and then you're like, yeah, I'm just feeling a little illuminated.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking, so weird really Yeah, yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: Like I said, those longer meditations, I feel like that's
Speaker 3: just when some of the strangeness starts to happen, you know,
Speaker 3: you start to detach and let go of this physicalness
Speaker 3: of it and just go into the illogical space, you know.
Speaker 3: And then I started to think about that, and I
Speaker 3: was starting to think of some of the just some
Speaker 3: of the understandings that we do have about space and
Speaker 3: all that, well, depending on what you feel about space,
Speaker 3: but just the fact that, at least to what we understand,
Speaker 3: that our own galaxy is one hundred thousand light years across. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is.
Speaker 4: Alright, fucking with me right now. Were we thinking about
Speaker 4: the same things in this meditation or what?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but go ahead, maybe, But I was
Speaker 3: just thinking, you know, not that I've got any answers
Speaker 3: or nothing like that. This is just more of a
Speaker 3: being in some sort of awe of the fact that
Speaker 3: we exist, at least in you know, within our own galaxy.
Speaker 3: It's one hundred thousand light years across. And so I mean,
Speaker 3: you can't even really fathom how how much of a
Speaker 3: distance traveling at the speed of light for one year,
Speaker 3: how far away that is. You just really can't understand
Speaker 3: how far that is. But one hundred thousand, you know,
Speaker 3: and somewhere within the dust of that, we're here thinking
Speaker 3: about it, you know, and just I don't know, I
Speaker 3: was just I was kind of putting myself there, like
Speaker 3: I was actually kind of just floating out there looking
Speaker 3: at it and going, holy fuck, you know, like we're
Speaker 3: in there somewhere, you know. And I don't know no answers,
Speaker 3: but but at least it was a cool experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's all it's about, is just trying to
Speaker 4: get out there and see where you where your mind
Speaker 4: is capable of going, you know. And what's awesome about
Speaker 4: it is that you don't have any limitations when you're
Speaker 4: in meditation. There is no such thing as a limitation
Speaker 4: in a meditation. So you want to go out to
Speaker 4: a far far away galaxy or whatever, it's like, I mean,
Speaker 4: a light second is nothing, a light year, one hundred
Speaker 4: thousand light years doesn't matter, dude, that ship you traverse
Speaker 4: it by thinking it. And that's that's I mean, maybe
Speaker 4: it's almost an allegory of this own, you know, quote
Speaker 4: unquote physical reality that we live in, that things that
Speaker 4: seem like they're so far away are always right now anyway.
Speaker 3: Right right, and and and and I also thought about
Speaker 3: that too, like within the meditation, I was thinking, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, how far away from this galaxy do I
Speaker 3: even need to be to even have the full galaxy
Speaker 3: in my field of view? And so that's probably who
Speaker 3: knows how many more one hundred thousand light years away
Speaker 3: from that, just to have that, you know, and just
Speaker 3: for the same reason why we don't have like a
Speaker 3: full picture of the Earth is because it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's so big or whatever, depending on what you believe,
Speaker 3: you know, but you know, yeah, and so but I
Speaker 3: got there with the quickness, like instantly. It wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 3: let me get out farther away, let me take some
Speaker 3: time to No. I was just there looking at it
Speaker 3: and going, holy shit, you know, like whatever this fucking
Speaker 3: thing is, it doesn't make sense that, you know, to
Speaker 3: think about it logically that we even exist and conformed
Speaker 3: thoughts and to pontu you know, contemplate it all in
Speaker 3: the first place.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny too, is that stars I think
Speaker 3: in the Bible stars are called the illuminated ones. Oh right,
Speaker 3: of course. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I I also I wasn't thinking necessarily about that,
Speaker 4: or I didn't go to that place. But I was
Speaker 4: thinking about like the stars and stuff like that, and
Speaker 4: I was thinking about like so within like Mormonism. We've
Speaker 4: talked to like a bunch of different Mormons on the cult, right, okay,
Speaker 4: and the I believe I could be mistaken, but I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure that the Mormons believe that whenever they die,
Speaker 4: whenever they like go to heaven and stuff, that they
Speaker 4: become their own planet or their own star. Maybe that's
Speaker 4: in scientology, I might begin to better.
Speaker 3: That is what I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: Both, yeah, all three, but you would become your own star.
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, how how would that work
Speaker 4: with the understanding that we have now?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: And I was just thinking, like, dude, I mean, you're
Speaker 4: wouldn't that ultimately be like a heavenly state? Like you
Speaker 4: don't have to go through any more obstacles, you don't
Speaker 4: have to learn anything more like there there is no
Speaker 4: more like good and bad and light and darkness. It's
Speaker 4: just that you are you literally become a light source yourself,
Speaker 4: and you are now shining in the darkness for anybody
Speaker 4: else that needs that guiding light.
Speaker 3: You know, something that that that somebody or something would
Speaker 3: do when you get to that that stage of you
Speaker 3: don't need anymore. Now you just have enough to provide
Speaker 3: for others. You know what I mean. And so in
Speaker 3: then in a spiritual sense anyway.
Speaker 4: I mean, you literally become that that frequency and that light.
Speaker 4: So you think about like people, uh like Nick for example,
Speaker 4: I always think about him whenever we're talking about the
Speaker 4: stars because he you know, the Pleiades and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: the Seven Sisters, and you know that light and you know,
Speaker 4: it's interesting.
Speaker 3: It's in the Tourist constellation and it's it seems to
Speaker 3: be like almost.
Speaker 4: Nothing whenever you're looking up because it's it's the faintest
Speaker 4: of it's literally like a like a cloud of stars
Speaker 4: because they're all they're all so close together, and so
Speaker 4: whenever they're whenever they're so close together like that, they
Speaker 4: almost they form like this blue light that gives off.
Speaker 4: And that's like, what's really awesome about the the Pleiades
Speaker 4: is that it's like a little blue light cloud structure.
Speaker 4: And some of them, you know, sometimes you can only
Speaker 4: see six of them, sometimes you can see seven of them,
Speaker 4: but essentially it's all working together as one cohesive unit.
Speaker 3: And it's like this one.
Speaker 4: Cloud of blue light that is working collectively together, right,
Speaker 4: And I was thinking, like what if those were individuals,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like an individual soul, an
Speaker 4: individual spirit, whatever you want to call it, right, yep?
Speaker 4: And and could that be what is communicating with Nick?
Speaker 4: And people that communicate with the stars and certain certain
Speaker 4: constellations and stuff like that, that that they're not necessarily
Speaker 4: beings that they are the stars, but the stars themselves
Speaker 4: have their own level of awareness that you can that
Speaker 4: you can like match up synchronistically to right and almost
Speaker 4: like communicate with them that way, Because isn't that what
Speaker 4: we just talked about, How you can synchronistically embody the
Speaker 4: frequency of whatever it is that you're trying to communicate
Speaker 4: with and you become that right, So maybe that's maybe
Speaker 4: Nick's on some shit, then I don't know.
Speaker 3: And if you think about it, you know, think about
Speaker 3: our star, it's nurturing, like it nurtures the earth, and
Speaker 3: the earth provides food for us and then we eat
Speaker 3: and and so you know, you look at it that
Speaker 3: way as far as it start putting off energy and
Speaker 3: almost like love, you know, and think about the messages
Speaker 3: that that Nick always receives. It's always having to do
Speaker 3: with you know, you are loved and you were you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And so that that nurturing vibe,
Speaker 3: and I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, it could be Yeah, it could definitely be something
Speaker 4: like that, which is an interesting thought. I almost want
Speaker 4: to do a little bit more research. But I was
Speaker 4: also thinking, you know, like, all right, if we're going
Speaker 4: to try this on for size and actually play with
Speaker 4: it to try and test it, maybe we're just crazy.
Speaker 4: Maybe we don't have any idea what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Maybe we're living in fucking fantasyland, right.
Speaker 3: I asked myself that all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the only way to find out is
Speaker 4: to try it, yeah, you know, and if it is real,
Speaker 4: you know, as if it is, and don't question it,
Speaker 4: just fully immerse yourself into it.
Speaker 3: So how would that work? Well? And that's what I
Speaker 3: was thinking.
Speaker 4: I mean, it just said, like, take a week and
Speaker 4: completely immerse yourself into the studying of any archetype at whatsoever.
Speaker 4: And the more information that you know, the more information
Speaker 4: that you can almost like latch onto and start to
Speaker 4: be that in body. Right, And so I was thinking, Man,
Speaker 4: I don't know, odin Loki, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 4: You know, that sounds fun, you know, but what am
Speaker 4: I going to learn from putting Loki, God of mischief,
Speaker 4: you know, and would be fun for sure, but I
Speaker 4: probably get in some trouble and I don't need that
Speaker 4: in my life. And so I was thinking, dude' and
Speaker 4: I said it.
Speaker 3: Before, but.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do Archangel Michael. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I
Speaker 4: was just sitting there thinking like which one? And I
Speaker 4: was basically what I was whenever I'm in meditation. That's
Speaker 4: whenever like my I don't know, like my senses are
Speaker 4: working better. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like that
Speaker 4: that like gut feeling is so much more prominent inside
Speaker 4: of a meditation. And so I was just like literally
Speaker 4: filtering through my mind almost like it was a like
Speaker 4: a roll of dex of names kind of thing, or
Speaker 4: like I was like, all right, Odin thor Loki. And
Speaker 4: then I was like, oh, I was gonna think of Jesus.
Speaker 4: I was like, I already know a fair amount about Jesus,
Speaker 4: but it would be fun to try that too, you know.
Speaker 4: It just be like instead of being a follower of Jesus,
Speaker 4: become like Jesus and then maybe you start healing and
Speaker 4: maybe you start doing all these fascinating like miracles and
Speaker 4: stuff like that, which would be fun. But the one
Speaker 4: that I really felt like most connected to was Ourchane
Speaker 4: like so, and then I thought Archangel Michael, and it
Speaker 4: was like that one, and I was like, all right,
Speaker 4: I'll try that one.
Speaker 3: All right, So you want to you want to look
Speaker 3: into him and look to see what he's all about us.
Speaker 3: So this is what I was thinking.
Speaker 4: And so what we could do is is we can
Speaker 4: literally build a series off of this one anchor show,
Speaker 4: right and and every show for it doesn't have to
Speaker 4: be every show, but we can do like deep dives
Speaker 4: into specific archetypes, right, like, all right, let's let's try
Speaker 4: and you want to try and embody Archangel Michael. All right,
Speaker 4: We're gonna learn everything we can about him. I want
Speaker 4: to I want to take it from the Bible. I
Speaker 4: want to take it from the Gnostics. I want to
Speaker 4: take it from all the traditions of the East that
Speaker 4: may talk about him or something like that. And I
Speaker 4: also want to know I want to know the the
Speaker 4: etymology of Archangel Michael. Where did that name begin? Did
Speaker 4: it Did they take it from Egypt, did they take
Speaker 4: it from Greece, did they take it from China?
Speaker 3: Whatever?
Speaker 4: Right, And like I want to know the very beginnings
Speaker 4: of how this archetype was built into how it came
Speaker 4: to be you know what I'm saying, Oh absolutely, and
Speaker 4: just fucking know it all.
Speaker 3: I'm with you. And you know what's cool is well,
Speaker 3: you know, as far as what we learn in this episode,
Speaker 3: you know, all of these archetypes are actually all parts
Speaker 3: of who we are.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I maybe I don't know for sure, but I feel
Speaker 3: like that that's true. You know, we all have those abilities,
Speaker 3: those capabilities, and so the more of those that we learn,
Speaker 3: in essence, I feel like we're learning more about ourselves,
Speaker 3: you know, because what's in here is out there, and
Speaker 3: you know, vice versa.
Speaker 4: It's a mirror, it's a reflection, and that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, all right, I'm with it.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: That was awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I was also thinking, like, uh so at first,
Speaker 4: I was, you know, because it said it was a
Speaker 4: God frequency. It's nine hundred and sixty three, which is
Speaker 4: the God frequency. And I was just like trying to
Speaker 4: bask in the frequency of God, right and imagining what
Speaker 4: it would like to what it would be like to
Speaker 4: be God, and so it was it was really weird visualization.
Speaker 4: And so and I was like, all right, well, take
Speaker 4: me on this journey. I want to see what it
Speaker 4: would like to be God. Right, And then I started
Speaker 4: going through like it was weird because it was a hallway,
Speaker 4: but it was shaped like ribs, Like it was like
Speaker 4: like a tunnel of ribs that were arcing around to
Speaker 4: form this tunnel thing. Right.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean God formed Eve from one of Adam's ribs, right,
Speaker 4: so maybe that I don't know why, but anyway, then
Speaker 4: I was also thinking like Jonah in the whale. You know,
Speaker 4: Jonah was inside of this well, if you were be
Speaker 4: if you were to be inside of a whale, maybe
Speaker 4: you'd see like the rigid you know, top of the
Speaker 4: mouth that would kind of look like that. I don't know,
Speaker 4: I was just getting weird, but anyway, that's what I
Speaker 4: was I was experiencing. And I was like, I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, well, let me try and just get there.
Speaker 4: And I just started going down this hallway. And as
Speaker 4: I was going down this hallway, I was picking up
Speaker 4: speed and I was going faster and faster and faster
Speaker 4: until I was just like, well, wait a second, I'm
Speaker 4: encompassing this God frequency.
Speaker 3: I don't need to wait I'm just gonna be there, right, And.
Speaker 4: Then I stumble upon this throne, right, and I'm getting
Speaker 4: ready to go up, and this throne has like what
Speaker 4: I would envision God would look like if it was
Speaker 4: a person, you know, and which basically kind of just
Speaker 4: goes back to my past life regression where I, you know,
Speaker 4: envisioned Odin was God or whatever, right, just because it's
Speaker 4: the archetype of the long hair and the long beard
Speaker 4: and the you know, the gray and the whites and
Speaker 4: all that stuff. So that's what I was envisioning. And
Speaker 4: and so I envisioned that I was getting ready to
Speaker 4: go walk walk up to him and be like, well,
Speaker 4: you know, how do I do this?
Speaker 3: What am I supposed to do? And stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And then dude, as I went to go ask like
Speaker 4: what what is my next step or whatever, my awareness
Speaker 4: shifted from being outside or from being in the body
Speaker 4: that I was in, to literally be being in the
Speaker 4: fucking throne as Odin.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, yeah, And I was.
Speaker 4: Just like, you know, it just reminded me of like, uh,
Speaker 4: Bam Margera from Viva Labam whenever it's like Bam mar Jara,
Speaker 4: what is he gonna do next? And then Bam, Margera
Speaker 4: pops up on a skateboard and he's like, whatever the
Speaker 4: fuck I want?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's just a weird thought that I had. And and
Speaker 4: so that's I was just like, well, I guess kind
Speaker 4: of whatever, I whatever I want to do.
Speaker 3: I'm god, you know what I'm saying, right, there are
Speaker 3: no limits, there is no limitation.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm and and it was just like, all right, well,
Speaker 4: now now that I'm encompassing like that kind of frequency,
Speaker 4: let me go through some aspects of my potential future
Speaker 4: and see how I think they're gonna work out.
Speaker 3: So I started doing that.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get too personal with it, but I
Speaker 4: was able to see like life unfold and it was
Speaker 4: unfolding beauty. It was just like, you know, I understood
Speaker 4: what mindset I had to be in to manifest the
Speaker 4: life that I wanted to have. And it was like,
Speaker 4: all right, you want to be good at this, or
Speaker 4: you want to be good at that, or you want
Speaker 4: life to go this way, you want.
Speaker 3: Life to go that way.
Speaker 4: It was showing me the frequencies that I needed to
Speaker 4: incorporate into myself in order to allow those things to happen.
Speaker 4: And so then I was thinking, did get even deeper?
Speaker 3: Damn? How am I?
Speaker 4: I don't even know how I remember all this because
Speaker 4: normally I can't remember all of it into meditation, but
Speaker 4: it was awesome. But then I was like, okay, so
Speaker 4: it kind of is like Jim Carrey then in a sense,
Speaker 4: because you know Jim Carrey, he played all these different
Speaker 4: roles and he played them all really well, and then
Speaker 4: he got to what was it, the man on the
Speaker 4: moon whatever that guy was, and then he was just
Speaker 4: like he became that guy and everybody knew that he
Speaker 4: was that guy, like he never jumped out of character
Speaker 4: because he was him. And I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 4: so I'm not even I'm not even me. I can
Speaker 4: be whatever whoever, however, whyever I want to be it
Speaker 4: just as long as you have a goal. And once
Speaker 4: you once you know what your goal is, you just say,
Speaker 4: all right, who do I need to incorporate into myself?
Speaker 4: If I don't exist and I'm I'm not anything anyway.
Speaker 4: You know, you can be whatever you want to be
Speaker 4: if you're god right. And now it's like, all right,
Speaker 4: well I'm going to turn into this because this person
Speaker 4: would handle this correctly I'm gonna do. I'm gonna turn
Speaker 4: into this because this entity would definitely.
Speaker 3: Know what to do.
Speaker 4: And so it got me thinking, Dude, whenever I was
Speaker 4: a little kid, I and this is what I was
Speaker 4: trying to say earlier, but then I kind of veered off. Well,
Speaker 4: whenever I was a little kid, I used to be
Speaker 4: so suggestible, bro like, so suggestible. And so I would
Speaker 4: watch a movie and if especially if it was a
Speaker 4: movie that I really liked, dude, I shit you not.
Speaker 4: For the next hour after the movie, I was I
Speaker 4: had the mindset of my favorite character.
Speaker 3: In that movie.
Speaker 4: Mm hm did you ever feel that way?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I have a distinct memory of that. So we
Speaker 3: went to well back when it was like the Dollar
Speaker 3: Movie Theater. It was way back. I was like, maybe,
Speaker 3: oh shit, whatever, you're whatever, how over old I was
Speaker 3: when Mortal Kombat came out, okay, and we went and
Speaker 3: saw that, you know, and I came out and without
Speaker 3: questioning it, like I was already I forget. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I was sub Zero or if I was Scorpion,
Speaker 3: but I was one of those and I was like
Speaker 3: doing the move and like, but you don't question it
Speaker 3: because you were just obviously you're you're a kid, you're
Speaker 3: using your imagination and you're you're having fun with it.
Speaker 3: But but without even thinking about it, I embodied that character. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was fun and I believed it. It was
Speaker 3: it was There was no questioning it, right, you didn't
Speaker 3: need to No, you just oil it and it wasn't.
Speaker 4: It was even more than that, though, because it was
Speaker 4: almost so like it felt so real and so magical
Speaker 4: that I mean, you didn't question why would you question it?
Speaker 4: It's like, why would you question if your name is Sean?
Speaker 4: Like that's how real it felt.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't even feel silly about it. You know,
Speaker 3: when you're a kid, you don't be like You're not like, oh,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't act like this because that's kind of silly,
Speaker 3: and like, you know what I mean, I shouldn't be
Speaker 3: doing that. You're just walking out there throwing the spirit,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, first off, you wouldn't think that it was silly
Speaker 4: because it was your favorite character in the movie anyway,
Speaker 4: And usually your favorite character in the movie is somebody
Speaker 4: who you would probably aspire to be. Which if if
Speaker 4: it's somebody you aspire to be, then it must be
Speaker 4: really cool. And if you think it's really cool, then
Speaker 4: you'd probably think everybody else would think it would be
Speaker 4: really cool, right, so you wouldn't even question it. And
Speaker 4: it's like, and dude, I'm just thinking about that. That
Speaker 4: has happened so many times, even as an adult now
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about it. Like I remember, whenever American Pie
Speaker 4: first came out, my parents went and took us to
Speaker 4: the drive in movie theater.
Speaker 3: To see that. I was like ten. That was a mistake.
Speaker 3: Probably they did not know what they.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was like at the in the drive
Speaker 4: in movie theaters, you would always see two movies. It's
Speaker 4: two movies, yeah, and so you'd normally go for one,
Speaker 4: and then if the first one starts out cool, then
Speaker 4: maybe you'd stick around for it. But you normally go
Speaker 4: just for the one movie that you really wanted to see, right,
Speaker 4: And so they decided to stick around for American Pie.
Speaker 3: It was the later show.
Speaker 4: And so but I was so suggestible because I used
Speaker 4: to love Stiffler, like I thought he was fucking to
Speaker 4: make sense, I know. I used to think he was
Speaker 4: so awesome, that he was so funny, he was just
Speaker 4: the man, right, and and it's funny to see like
Speaker 4: how my life panned out after being so suggestible by
Speaker 4: that it's making sense now, yeah, yeah, track, But it's
Speaker 4: more than that. Even as a little kid, I would
Speaker 4: do I was. I believed that being Matilda was real,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like being able to levitate
Speaker 4: ship with your mind. And then even as an adult,
Speaker 4: I feel like, I mean, in a roundabout way, I
Speaker 4: think that doctor Strange has its real things about it,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: And and dude, even we weren't the only we weren't
Speaker 3: the only kids trying to move ship with our mind
Speaker 3: after watching Matilda, fuck you know, or any movie like it.
Speaker 4: Right, right, and even like like The Iron Fist, Dude,
Speaker 4: you got to watch that.
Speaker 3: It is so good. It's on It's on Disney. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 4: But it's all like it's it's just this guy who
Speaker 4: literally like meditated himself into another realm.
Speaker 3: He's a superhero.
Speaker 4: He meditated himself into another realm where he was learning
Speaker 4: from like these monks, and these monks were teaching him
Speaker 4: how to like harness his chi, right, and so his chi,
Speaker 4: you know, depending on what was going on in his life,
Speaker 4: his chi would either be really strong or not existent, right,
Speaker 4: but his chi was so powerful and he was able
Speaker 4: to harness it into his fist, and so he became
Speaker 4: the Iron Fist and nobody could fuck with it. It
Speaker 4: was like a it was like a Hulk fist, you know,
Speaker 4: and like you'd be totally done if you ever came
Speaker 4: in contact with the iron field like you were, you
Speaker 4: don't stand a chance. Superman couldn't stand a chance against
Speaker 4: the Iron Fist if he if he harnessed his chie correctly,
Speaker 4: Superman's fucked right. And so but yeah, you got to
Speaker 4: watch that, so super good.
Speaker 3: He meditates into another realm.
Speaker 4: I mean, you had me there, bro, He meditated into
Speaker 4: a place that doesn't exist in this reality.
Speaker 3: I'm watching it, dude, and and somehow came back with
Speaker 3: powers abilities. Yeah, I know, kung fu, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think there was like there was like two seasons
Speaker 4: or whatever, but it came out with whenever the first
Speaker 4: seasons of The Punisher and Jessica Jones and Luke Cage
Speaker 4: and Daredevil and all that came out because they were
Speaker 4: they were the Defenders or whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm a super Marvel dork, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just think that God, I just love that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff so no, I.
Speaker 3: Really, I really love what you've been saying, dude, And
Speaker 3: in a sense, I think I think it's right man,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, how else are you going to
Speaker 3: become the version of yourself or a version of something
Speaker 3: that you want to be without putting all of your
Speaker 3: energy and trying to figure out what that person would do?
Speaker 3: You know? And sometimes I think about you know, basketball players,
Speaker 3: like just to use the example I used earlier, you know,
Speaker 3: as far as when they're at the free throw line.
Speaker 3: You know, I would imagine that pressure, especially in a
Speaker 3: final game, you know, and everyone's watching you. I just
Speaker 3: imagine that pressure. And for me, because I'm not that person,
Speaker 3: I imagine I would fail, I would miss it, you know,
Speaker 3: just because there's just too much on the line, you know.
Speaker 3: But that person embodied that version of himself to be
Speaker 3: that professional that makes those freak throws because you're a
Speaker 3: professional and you have to make those those are the
Speaker 3: most important, you know.
Speaker 4: And oh yeah, dude, even as like even whenever I
Speaker 4: was a little kid, like my dad would tell me
Speaker 4: these like these like little sayings, and and they always
Speaker 4: stuck with me, like work smarter, not harder kind of thing,
Speaker 4: which is kind of how I how I've kind of
Speaker 4: built my life with that. But yeah, yeah, and but
Speaker 4: he would also say, so I grew up playing football,
Speaker 4: you know that. And but whenever I was younger, he
Speaker 4: used to always say this one thing, and and it
Speaker 4: never really made sense to me until I became a
Speaker 4: man and understood it. But he would always say this
Speaker 4: one thing, and he would say, the game of football
Speaker 4: is ninety percent mental. It's only ten percent physical.
Speaker 3: Right, And I used to think, what the fuck does that?
Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: I didn't understand it at the time, And then whenever
Speaker 4: I finally understood it, I was like, Oh, this is
Speaker 4: some flow state shit that he didn't even know he
Speaker 4: was saying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And go unlock some abilities, man, when you're not even
Speaker 3: having to try that hard exactly. We're just riding the wave, man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which you know, I would say that he was
Speaker 4: ninety percent right then if you think about it, got him,
Speaker 4: got him?
Speaker 3: Oh man, God, I love this episode, and yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's one of my favorites. Bro.
Speaker 4: Three hours and eleven minutes. This is one of our
Speaker 4: longer ones.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, I'll take it, man. It needed it, you
Speaker 3: know it needed that air to breathe. Man, you know,
Speaker 3: because I feel like this episode, I feel like not
Speaker 3: to say that we are correct, I'm not even gonna
Speaker 3: say that. What I'm gonna say is that we did
Speaker 3: something right, you know what I mean? And I feel
Speaker 3: like this was one of those episodes that can be
Speaker 3: very beneficial. So I'm glad we did it. Man. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it's not about being right or wrong. I don't
Speaker 4: think like that's that's a full on that's a dualistic
Speaker 4: dichotomy that only yet only exists like in this reality,
Speaker 4: in this universe. It's the dualism. But ultimately where there
Speaker 4: is things that vibe and there's things that don't, and
Speaker 4: whether it vibes or whether it doesn't, that's all that matters.
Speaker 4: Do what you hear tonight vibe with you?
Speaker 3: Did you like it?
Speaker 4: Do you feel like you could apply it to your life?
Speaker 4: Does it make things make more sense? The answer is yes.
Speaker 4: Then you can call it truth, you can call it real,
Speaker 4: you can label it whatever you want. That's it doesn't
Speaker 4: require labels.
Speaker 3: That's it beautiful man, seful episode, dude. If I may
Speaker 3: say so, thank you, sir. I enjoyed it all right.
Speaker 4: The one Hopefully you guys enjoyed it as well, and uh,
Speaker 4: we'd love you and we'll see on the flip side, that.
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