Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt.
Speaker 2: Flynn Hester and Hester.
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Speaker 3: It's off the bench, smarts all right.
Speaker 4: And welcome back in hour number three, oh TV one,
O four five ESPN batteries.
Speaker 3: The timing was better of that one.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say yesterday we discouraged. You didn't say
it the entire show until just now you called.
Speaker 6: The annoying yesterday.
Speaker 4: Well, I think we heard his feelings. I think we
heard his feelings.
Speaker 6: Get this, dude, who.
Speaker 7: Is about hour one an hour two?
Speaker 3: I was like that one was better. That one was better.
Speaker 4: And speaking of better, we are going to catch up
with the best right now, our gut Nick Underhill, New
Orleans Dots Football joins us.
Speaker 3: Now, Nick, how are you doing, sir?
Speaker 6: Great?
Speaker 3: Are you guys doing doing fantastic?
Speaker 4: And I'm sure you're pretty excited. Not like Christmas morning excited.
That's like training camp, but you know, maybe like birthday
excited because you got a little mini camp for the Saints.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it starts, starts today at least two practices they
scheduled too, with like fans out there, I don't know
if they'll do all three or not. But yeah, look,
I think this is a it's an exciting time with
this team at least, like I've never really been more
interested to go out and see practices. You know, by
by August that might no longer be the case because
they might reveal themselves as not being a very good team.
But right now, like the gifts still wrapped up, and
as if that opened up, right, you aren't disappointed. You know,
your mom didn't get you the team Jordan's instead of
the Jordan threes, you know, like you got the right Jordan's,
not the not the foot locker on the shelf, ones
like that could be in the box. So until you
find out, Yeah, it's exciting, man, I'm eager to see
what these.
Speaker 5: Guys look like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, him as well.
Speaker 4: There's so many different intriguing position battles. Certainly the quarterback
is going to lead the charge there, but what the
offensive line is going to look like. But I want
to ask you about the running back position because nickd
does seem like they are in the market for a
veteran running back. I mean they've kind of been tied
loosely to some of these running backs.
Speaker 3: I know, Nick Chubb just went to the Texans.
Speaker 4: Becam Akers is somebody the Saints are interested in at least,
and it feels like they want to bring in another
veteran running back even though they have Ak and Clyde
Edwards te Layer on the roster already.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because like it's a position that that you know,
could be crowded if some of these maybes hit, and
if none of the maybes sad, it's it's the borderline disaster. Uh.
You know, Clyde's a huge maybe still I think there's
a lot of talent, but he was available in the
last season, and you know when a guy's out there
on the open market in November December that there's usually
a reason for it. Collin's obvious was a first round pick,
but it's been a few years since we've seen him
kind of capitalize on that for a multitude of reasons.
And you know, hopefully all that you know, set up
to where he can show it consistently now so he
could be Boomer bus Kendre is very boom or bust.
I still can't get my head around the idea that
someone can't figure out like eight plays that he can
execute consistently, because like even when he doesn't know exactly
what he's supposed to be doing, like we've seen him
break off nine yard runs like like it's nothing, but
he's very boomer busy, Devin Neil, You know, a late
round pick theoretically should be good, but we don't know.
You know, I haven't seen anything out there, Marcus, youre irons.
The UDFA has looked really good in these practices, but
he's a UDFA and we haven't seen him take a
hit yet. Like if all those things go sideways, you know,
Alvin feels like the one constant, but at some point
he is going to look like a thirty year old
running back. Like I don't know when that happens, when
it hits. But assuming he's he's fine. Yeah, I mean,
one of these things could it and you have a
decent room to get it, you have a great room,
or they could all bust and maybe you need camp makers.
And he's trying out this week at mini camp and
you know he's had two torn achilles, wasn't very good
last year. But maybe the time and distance from that
second second torn Achilles, you know, allows him to kind
of tap into more week he was at the beginning
of his career. He bounced back really, really good from
the first Achilles. There second one is taking a little
bit more time. But yeah, I mean, look, I think
it makes sense to look at these guys and even
if let's say all the maybes, it like if you're
building on a strength and you're picking the best three
or whatever at the end of it, that's not a
bad spot to be either.
Speaker 6: All right, Nick, I'm always gonna lead my questions and
start off with quarterbacks because we all know the quarterbacks.
It's an important person in the room. And at the sight,
I mean, we have a full out bona fide QB
one battle. So going into many camp, is there really
anything else that you can pull from any camp that
you didn't pull from OTAs We had Scott Tolzien on
the show last last week and he was talking, you know,
really about like this isn't really evaluating for a starter.
This is about getting reps, reps, reps because we don't
have pads on like training camp. That's when in the
real competition. But of course that's a little bit of
coaches talk. But what can a coach in a mini
camp setting see that we kind of haven't already got
from OTAs.
Speaker 2: For me, I'm really just going out here and I
just don't want to see one of them look worse
than than what we've seen. Like I just want to
see forward progress or holding steady. You know, I feel
decent about where where these guys are at right now.
And you know, but the thing is is we go
out there and it's limited exposure and we're seeing like
very short practices, you know, the practicing indoors. It's you know,
from what I've heard, the practice they've allowed us to
see each week is a lot more condensed and controlled
than the other ones. Like we go in, we see
about seven eight passes from each quarterback, and then we're
out of there, and you know, it could just happen
to be that on three we see Spencer Ratler's three
best days, and you know, there's a positive viewpoint there.
I think seeing it in this setting kind of you know,
outside people screaming a little more adrenaline, got the heat going,
you know, some sweat on the football whatever. All that
stuff got the actual vets out there now, Like, you know,
I think that plays a part in these guys completing.
I want to say it's like ninety two percent of
the passes that we've seen throwing in these seven on sevens.
Like now now you got tiring out there. The Mario
is going to be out there every day, like when
you got the full secondary does it does it look
a little bit different, And like, I hope it does
look a little bit different, but I don't want it
to look discouraging different. And like, honestly, like I'm just
looking for for continued momentum, and uh, you know, I
want to be able to go into this this break
believe in that you know, if if X and Y happened,
then he's possible, you know, and a step back would
feel kind of devastating. So I just want to see
a little bit of that that Ford momentum from confidence building,
you know. And I think in the case of Shuck
is just like incremental improvements like hey he was slow
on display yesterday. Today he's seeing it a little bit quicker.
Hey he's doing this some rhythm. You know, he's just
kind of picking up the details, you know, I think
from the sideline you know, for for a non mass
flint observed like an idiot like me like that, that
might be hard to piece together, you know, every single time.
But I think from a coaching standpoint, that's that's probably
really all they're looking for right now is like little
pieces of growth being improvement with the reps and then
you know, just having a menu with things that you
can handle. Both these guys at the end and say like, hey,
look these are good things, bad things like clean that
up for camp, and then I just want to see
shock really, you know, and Ratlery too, you know, come
back look a little bit different. It started turning kid.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think it's a good point because it's
in competitions like this, it's really easy to overreact. When
I was in a competition in Seattle with Russell, It's
like I had practices where I mean I couldn't miss
dicing it up, throwing like ten touchdowns in a practice
right and the other guy would have a couple batted
down with a line of scrimmage I got picked, you
know whatever it was, and things that like just look
bad from an observer standpoint, So it's easy to overreact
from like a reporting standpoint, like that, but you have
a good outlook on it. I note that's what kind
of tolls he was talking about it. We take the
whole scope into a decision making process and we're seeing
one practice is just like one little tiny aspect of it.
But one part from like a coaching and a a
on a competition like this that's difficult to manage is
how each guy gets reps. So every team can handle
a competition differently from you know, a number standpoint of reps.
How are they trading off between first and second team reps?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 6: But day by day? Is it? Series by series?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 6: You know, one rep by one rep? How are they
trading that off right now?
Speaker 2: So well first like yeah, great, Like sometimes I'm embarrassing
to myself out we talk about these like early practices
because you're you're like you're waiting six months and you
go out and you see an ota and you dissect
eight passes like you know, it's the game winning drive
in the super Bowl, because like it's all you have
to talk about, and then you have that just for
a full week and when it's a quarterback scope, like
it's it's embarrassing when you look back on it. But
I mean, but that's all we can really do. Sure,
you know, as far as how they're splitting it up
each day, it's Ben Ratler. He's been first team and
every single series I think that we've seen, barring one,
has been him going first. We saw Shuck in the
last practice. Rattler took the first team reps the first time,
then it was Shuck and then they do special teams,
they come back, and then Shuck went first the next time. Now,
like a few times when Chuck's went out there with
the second team, some of the starters from the first
team defense, it cycled in it at some of the spots,
and you know, it's kind of like a like a
half squad or whatever. But for the most part, it's
Ben Ratler running it. And you know, the first two
practices we were out there, we didn't see Hunter Deckers
throw at all. He got a series in this in
this last ota, So you know, I'm interested to kind
of see what he can do too. I think there's
a significant gap between him and the other guys, But
like his athletic profiles like really really interesting to me,
and you know, I'm kind of curious to see if
he can if he can be good enough to maybe
make the practice squad. I you know, if I had
to guess right now, I don't think he pushes Jay Canner.
I think there's a you know, pretty pretty decent golf
right there. But you know, over time, maybe maybe it
closes a little bit. But yeah, it looks like rattlers
in the lead. That's the thing I think I'm most
interested in going into the training camp is just to
really see how they they handle this battle. Like do
they do they call it early if one guy's like
really went in if it's shucked, did they call it
early and go with them? Or you know, do you
do you feel like you owe it to the process
to run it all the way through the preseason and
kind of you know, cycle it through and and just
see where it's at at the end. You know, I
don't know, I don't know what the right way to
do it is. You know, I kind of lean towards
settling it, but you know, I could see going through
the whole thing too. If it stays you know close,
and you know, just at the end, I just want
to feel like somebody want it instead of somebody like
getting it by the fault or somebody losing it. Like,
I just want one of these two guys to like
really look like they've claimed the job.
Speaker 4: Catching up with Nick Underhill nuanced out football here on
ot B, I do want to go to the other
side of the football. I know that a lot of
questions for the Saints are going to be on offense,
but there's a defensive player that just a year ago
you traded up in the second round from forty five
to forty one. So it's like kool Ai McKinstry, and
I feel like we don't hear a lot about kool Aid.
What's the plan for him moving forward? I know he's
you know, changed Jersey numbers. I feel like that's the
only news that I've really seen because Nick as you know,
like if you're a second round pick, like you got
to be a dude. But certainly if they trade up
forty five to forty one, like that expectation goes up
even more so. So what's the outlook for kol Ai
mcintrey heading into his second year?
Speaker 2: That's the thing I really want to see here, man,
Like it's felt a little bit too easy for these
quarterbacks and it's seven on Stevens, like they're going to
complete more passes in that setting than anything else. But
like it's been automatic and you're talking around about a
rookie and a fifth round pick, like this should be
a little bit more resistant. So I just want to
see a couple of plays get made out here. Theoretically, Like,
I think the system should suit Cooy pretty well. Like
Staley likes to run a lot of the same stuff
that Staban runs at Alabama, and you know he was
good there, Like you got picked in the second round
out of that system, so you know, he should be
more comfortable in what he's doing, you know, some of
the powder match stuff and all that. Like, I think
I think it should fit for him. But yeah, I
mean I thought I thought the rookie year, you know,
was just okay. You know, I think he's somebody that
really needs to take a big leap this year. And
I think he's kind of, like quietly one of the
more important guys on the team right now, because like
if he solidifies one of those positions, you at least
have an answer. If he doesn't, and then a Lackey Taylor,
like he's a free agent at the end of this season,
you might have nothing at cornerback, and like, how are
you going to address those needs? You don't want to
be doing it in free agency. You don't want to
be in a position where you have to be the
team that pays Jaii Alexander who you know seven games
last year, seven games a year before that. You know,
I don't think you want to be in a position
of weakness at two cornerback spots because like how do
you address that? And then like what if your quarterback
isn't good? And where's the wide receiver coming in to
go behind Chris Alave If you don't want to pay him,
where are you getting your pass rushers? Like you're talking
like five six premium positions that you'd have to address.
Like granted you have cap space, but you don't want
to buy your way out of out of that, Like
you want to be able to do it from a
position to strength. So him hitting I think, is like
quietly one of the bigger storylines of the season.
Speaker 6: All right, Nick, give me a I'm interested in in
Kellen Moore, how he his coaching style, how he presents
himself on the Every coach is different, right, every every
coach coach is different. Some of them are yellow some
of them are laid back, some of them are teachers.
They're just all different. So tell me about Kellen Moore,
like on the practice field, how, how what's his demeanor?
How does he interact with the players, because he's not
he's probably not that much older than a lot of
the guys. He might be younger than some of the
guys that are on the team, but like, so talk
to us about how that is how he's just been perceived.
And the guys have really taken to Kellen so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems really smart, and that's the thing you
kind of hear from everyone, like when they're talking football,
like they really like him. And I think, you know,
one of the guys just telling me the other day,
like one of the things that he's done that that
you know from the meeting perspective, player perspective, that that's smart.
Is just kind of tying himself the nut Smyer because
you kind of get some of that like younger, new school,
you know, more relaxed, relatable approach from him, and then
he knows how to pass it off to nus Meyer,
and thus Meyer can be kind of more like the
old school you know, uncle who tells you how it
is type guy and uh, you know, I think that
blend has come together really well. Yeah, I think he
kind of presents exactly how you would think he presents,
Like he is just kind of the same all the
time when you look at him, you know, on the field,
kind of carries himself the same way that that when
you look at him, like you get kind of what
you expect. But what was kind of revealing for me
is LSU had that that coaching clinic and he spoke
on it and uh, you know, I bought a ticket
through on a hat and some glasses, sat in the
back when Hancock me, it'll just to kind of see
how he himself. Yeah, Conick, and I thought I was
undercover and I walked into Pj's and someone immediately said
hi to mean I was like, all right, well I'm
busted if I go up here. But like, look, seeing
him up on that stage, like his presence was different
than then, you know, it was kind of eye opening
for me. Like when he started talking about football, like
there was a little more gusto, a little more like bravado,
and just the way he explained things for you know,
a regular person, like the way he was breaking it
down it. It was really understandable. Like he wasn't talking
over anyone said, he very very much had you know,
a grasp on the concepts, how to explain it, how
to teach, how to communicate, and you know he kind of,
you know, he kind of felt like his shoulders went
up a little bit and the chests puffed out a
little bit when he was up there in his own
element as opposed to like the media setting. So you know,
I thought, I thought that was a good thing to
see there. But so far, like I think the buying
is really good. They're doing like these you know, off
field community events, and like they're getting good attendants at those,
which is usually a decent sign. You know, it kind
of seems like some people are checked him just to
like the general philosophy of what he sells and like
beyond football, which I think is I don't know if
but ultimately means anything. But when you're trying to build
a culture, it's probably good to have that initial buy
in on kind of everything. And it seems like it's there.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, I've learned though that that June buy in
doesn't necessarily mean anything. There's a lot of buying last
year and then by by tell Tember there wasn't but uh,
you know, you don't want to see people not buying in.
So you know, I think he has a right now,
and you know, look at some of these vets out
here this week and and we'll kind of see how
some of that stuff goes out. I do find it
kind of interesting that that the attendance, uh, you know,
from the veteran aspect, is a little bit worse in
the voluntary part than it was last year. But I
could understand some general discouragement when the team is where
it is and the quarterback retires out of nowhere. Uh,
you know, that's probably probably tougher guys that might be
in the last year of their uh you know, career
last year or two.
Speaker 6: What's that? What's that attendance stat that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Just like some of the you know, some of the
vets aren't out there, like you know, just last year,
it kind of felt like everybody, everybody kind of showed up.
You know this funny the year Alvin never does so
like him aside, but you know, some of the guys,
like like the Mario was kind of working out on
his own a little bit Tyron was was, you know,
in and out doing his thing. Cam was in and
out doing his thing. Like it's just some of those
guys on that side of the ball, you know typically
you know, it was just a little bit different, and
you know that's something that that stands out when you're
starting over a little bit. But I would probably feel
a little bit discouraged if I was, you know, a
guy looking at it like it's it's one of the
final years of my career. Like, but I don't know,
you know, people got off field responsibilities, they got kids,
they got different stuff going on. I don't know why
people aren't there. It isn't mandatory, but you know, when
you're when you're looking at three practices in your dissect
and everything like those are one of the things that
kind of stand out a little bit.
Speaker 3: A right there.
Speaker 4: He is our guy, Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football
is the website. Nobody does it better when covering the Saints.
Go check it out, Nick. We appreciate it every single week.
Speaker 2: Sir, Yeah, don'ts showing me.
Speaker 3: That was never an option for me missing that anything.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you, NIX been mixed. Great love talking
to Nack yea love listening to him until these last
couple of weeks when I've been asking the questions that
last answer he gave us might be I don't know,
I don't know how that's sitting with pretty great.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty good nugget, though.
Speaker 6: But it's a good nugget, but it's a it's a
pretty veteran like guys with good names too, so it's
hard to like jump to conclusion. But man, that's a
that's a I don't know if it's a talent if
I want to say, it's a telling answer, but man,
it's not a great answer.
Speaker 4: Uh, new coach on like every level, new coach, every coach,
new coordinator like this.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't like it.
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about it when we come back. Maybe
what it means your experience with guys missing the workout
portion of it, because you know, I've got my own
experiences those dudes it is it is, and they're like
hard working dudes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you would never question them.
Speaker 4: But still it is worth a conversation because it is different.
Certainly when he says the year before it wasn't like that,
and so we'll break that down when we come back
here on OTV.
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Speaker 1: Down and nothing moment out to see more game than
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Speaker 3: Do what you ruined a great song with that more
game than.
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gumbo more more.
Speaker 9: Game than a gumbo. Okay, I asked the same question.
Speaker 4: By the way, I think I like the frame more
than I thought I did. If today is like any indications.
Speaker 6: I think we explained it earlier the best. Like you
are sitting in the back seat in the rain, your
parents are driving you to school, and you're just staring
out the back window with that rain.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when people like used to have the CD I'm
like old enough to where I had the CD player,
and I was like, yeah, the book, but like the
walkman that you would take on the bus with you
when you're on your way to school, and like the
backpack head so you can put the headphones whatever. So
like I remember I would have like burned CDs that
I would take to school with me with my walkman,
and the Fray was definitely on the burn CD. But
I'm thinking, like, you know, you used to like on
the bus, tried to act like you were in a
music video.
Speaker 7: But the bus is so like rattling your head that
you wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 3: Did you have the anti skips backpack you had that?
I did, you know? I mean, like it's supposed to
be anti skim, but.
Speaker 6: If it was in your backpack, I had one that skipped,
so I had I had the big one in my.
Speaker 4: Rooms anti shocked, I believe what like how they market if.
Speaker 6: It's skipped like you had? Whenever?
Speaker 9: It was whenever Like I'd argue with mom about like
hanging up my clothes or something. I'd go into the room,
I'm like, let me put on the emotional music, you know,
and I'm mad hanging up the clothes like that was
that was me?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like if it wasn't anti skip, then it had
to be completely flat and level.
Speaker 3: Yeah it would.
Speaker 6: So if it's throw in your backpack, I mean.
Speaker 7: Man, I probably have that somewhere in my I need
you to find it.
Speaker 4: That would be a great relic to have. Yeah, yeah,
I need that. We got a big last thirty minutes this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to break down what what Nick Underhill said.
Speaker 4: Sorry a little bit, Sorry, we can turn off the
fray I was. I was vibing good vibe.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 7: I'll lower it. I'll lower it still.
Speaker 3: Yeah we did.
Speaker 4: We did what Nick Underhill said, if you miss it.
He was talking about, you know, some of the veteran
players not being.
Speaker 3: There for.
Speaker 4: Voluntary voluntary air quit here, you know, workouts in the
off season. And I don't have great experience with this
because we typically in the places that I play, we
had one hundred attendance.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Sometimes a guy would miss you know, a week maybe
if he had something going on, uh, you know maybe
if his contract whatever. Uh. I think Sean Merriman missed
a week you know here and there, Like Antonio Gates
would miss a week here and there. But at Get
is a Hall of Famer, right and it would he
wouldn't miss just because like you would always eat, have something,
you'd have something, and they know beforehand, and you know,
he was there working out trying to think of like
some like veteran players.
Speaker 3: Course, you know the quarterbacks always.
Speaker 6: Going quarterbacks or quarterbacks if they're older, established a dude, like,
it's okay, I.
Speaker 3: Never I never established established.
Speaker 4: I never had a quarterback miss a single workout play
those two psychos.
Speaker 3: And I mean that like in the best way possible.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I was never a part of anybody
missing either. And I guess this is like a conversation that, yeah,
you have to tread lightly and you have to like
preface a lot of things because you do never know
a situation. You never know what personally somebody's going through.
You don't even know what a coach said to maybe
the coach said, yeah, take it, take a couple of
weeks off, Bud. You never know the complete situation, but
from an optic standpoint, And we were talking about it
at break here like that. That's something that we haven't
heard come out of the camp, out of the off season,
is that there was lower attendance this year than there
was last year. And I don't we're not going to
talk like names, because we talked about the guys that
he'd named right there are like, dude, so.
Speaker 3: Like hard work.
Speaker 6: So there's got to be something there, right, But it's
just overall, like when your attendance is worse when you
have a brand new head coach, all new staff, all
new coordinators, all new everything.
Speaker 3: That's the wild part.
Speaker 6: Two young quarterbacks, Like you're building something and then your
attendance is worse than the year before for voluntary off
season workouts. That throws a red flag up. Now that
red flag might have a good reason, but it throws
a big red flag. And like he said that, and
like my ears perked up. I was like, we're like
that's different, and that's not great. It doesn't make us
feel good. We're trying to be real positive towards you, Saints.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a Look, it's a big deal for me.
Speaker 4: I want everybody there. I want everybody there anytime the
doors are open. Now, I'm not saying you don't go
take a week here if you've already got something. And again,
the guys that he mentioned are like literally team captain,
hard working guys. But I want everybody there well, certainly
when there's new like he had a head coach, just
like for the Steelers, like if you're if you're t J.
Watt and you and Mike Tomlin y'all know each other
pretty well. You've been together for a while.
Speaker 3: If T J.
Speaker 4: Watt wass to missed a couple of weeks, okay, I'm sure,
or anybody like you know on the Steelers.
Speaker 6: I don't think like you and I. We're not procraaming, like, yeah,
you got to be there like you. You have to
be there every first one in, first one out, blah
blah blah. Because there's everyone, Every situation is treated different.
Every person gets treated different. Yeah, and if you're a guy,
if you're a veteran, you get treated differently than a
guy that's a rookie or a second you're guy trying
to just the way of the world, that's how the
world worked. If you're a new situation and you got
a brand new coach, and that's a different than another
off season year with an established staff, right, Yeah, you
trash the year before.
Speaker 3: Because you do want to learn. You want to learn.
Speaker 4: The day in the day out of how that person
goes about their business. What is this coach? Like, what
does this coach want me to do? Because I'm a
veteran player, Like, what's he expecting from me in this
meeting room?
Speaker 3: Because look, there's.
Speaker 4: Gonna be players on this roster that are the same
age as like Keller, Moore and Scott Toldsy there's gonna
be something that they're older, right, but so like they're
gonna lean on those veteran guys a Cam Jordan, the
Mario Davis, Tyr Matthew to be coaches in the meeting rooms.
Speaker 3: And you can be like, that's not the responsibility. It's not,
but it happens.
Speaker 4: Man, I was so fortunate my rookie year to learn
from one of the best running backs of all time,
like Ladaion Thomlinson taught me so much, Darren Sproles taught
me so much, Michael Bennett it was a former first
round pick. He ended his career with us. Man, he
taught me so much. He didn't have to. It's not
the responsibility. LT's want the goats, but like he took
that time. He helped me, He helped Mike Tolbert, and
that was so beneficial for us because the run that
coach can only do so much. But when you're talking,
you know with one of the greats, which the Saints
to Mario Davis, Cam Jordan, Tyren mac those are greats, right,
It's it's another coach in there, and you can get
a lot of those things done. Some of that learning
each other, learning expectations in some of these workouts. Even
though technically you're not out there on the football field,
you're still doing football things.
Speaker 6: Young players at that level, I guess. I guess you
could say at any level, they learn more from their
peers than they do a coach from the nuances of
playing the game. Now, of course, of course, the coach's
job is to teach you the X and o's teach
you the game plan, teach you the playbook, like how
he wants you to operate within their system that they're teaching.
But actually how to play the game. You're talking about, ladanion,
how to read, how to read the guard, how to
read how to read a different game from the defense,
like the nuances of the game are taught by other players.
You say, you're fortunate. I was fort shit, I learned
from one of the best as well. Yeah, I became
a better quarterback I would. I'm a I was a
different quarterback because I went to Green Bay than if
I would have gone to the Panthers.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I felt like a straight to the Panthers
I was gonna go Cleveland.
Speaker 6: If I went to the Cleveland Browns, everybody's catching strays.
Speaker 3: Need to catch it. Terrible mistake by the lake.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess all. I'm saying red flag a little
bit for me on a day that we're trying to
be positive. Yeah, I don't want to feel like this.
I'm going to vacation tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Right uh, And like moving forward, I'm going to assume
like all those players are going to be there and
again like oh for sure for the players that it is,
it's not concerning with who it is because you know
those guys are going to be there, but it is
it is a great time to kind of again learn
each other with all the news surrounding.
Speaker 6: The franch not calling it, it's just a bigger picture there.
Of the statement that Nick made was worth at least
exploring the in the conference.
Speaker 3: You see the comments.
Speaker 4: Would NFL rookies be able to take a week long
vacation for his birthday after only seven days on the job.
Speaker 3: It's a great question. No they would not. That's a
great question. You want to have a.
Speaker 6: Rebuttal I think so. I think it's the no, they wouldn't. Yeah,
guess what that.
Speaker 3: Uh not in the radio game.
Speaker 4: You're not doing it six years buddy, part time, very
part time. All right, last story before we take a break.
Speaking of like this time of the year, everybody treats
it differently. Every quarterback is going to have a different
level of respect that they're they're given. They just are.
I can remember Peyton Maning. We had a tight end,
very talented, young, big tight end, but he was young
and he had a good year, but you know, Peyton
wanted him to have have like an elite year and
he was close like that kind of player, and he
missed like two days straight of voluntary workouts and Peyton
sat there in the locker room and called him and
had it on speakerphone, like like there wasn't a lot
of people around, so it wasn't like doing it for show.
Speaker 3: It's just like kind of how he was.
Speaker 4: And he's just like, hey, car trouble snooze, something happened
like going on on the outside. We need to know
about Like we were good like he was because like
in his mind that player was close to going from
a good player to one of the best tight ends
in the NFL, and so like he wanted that work.
He wanted that extra throw in session, like he wanted
him to be in the building, and he was going
to hold him accountable because again it's not mandatory, but
he knew he was in town, he knew he had
been there, he knew he didn't have anything going on.
And so a lot of people might take that the
wrong way and be like, oh my gosh, But I
always had the thought process. Man, if the sheriff can
be here and he's here every single day for workouts
and he's ready to go, if Brandon Stokely, who's in
year seventy three of his NFL career, if Keith Brooking
can be here, like everybody should be.
Speaker 6: Here, the leaders, the vets, the guys with the skins
on the wall. They're the ones that can take it
from voluntary to mandatory just by tendance. Right, Yep, that's
exactly what you're talking about. All right, we will jelly
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Speaker 4: It is now time for me to turn it over
for some flnonomics.
Speaker 6: Did you just make that up?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think if it's good or not. I
like it, like it's flnonomics.
Speaker 4: Jello nomics did you know that Bobby Carpenter is a
professor of finance at the Ohio State University.
Speaker 6: I actually didn't know he was a professor. Didn't know
of finance finance. Wow, yeah, good about that. I mean,
what a win for the meat heads. Good for hell. Well,
So started diving into this yesterday, like on the show,
just because I thought it'd be funny to see like
what the jello shots like actually cost as opposed to
like what they sell in the numbers, because like the
numbers are astronomical of the amount especially well, I'm thinking
about twenty twenty three. I know they were down last
year because LSU wasn't it, So we're basing all of
this on twenty twenty three. Like the economics involved on
this jealous jot, like what does it cost for them
for Rocos to actually produce that? And then what do
they make? So I think you were telling me, But
a lot of the proceeds are going to the charity,
right is that.
Speaker 3: There's a portion of it. There's a big tors which
is awesome.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like so what what what Rocos has done and
what they did? And I know jealous shots were like
a thing there before, but it got blown out of
the out of the world in twenty twenty three L
Shoe because everywhere we go we drink out every place.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, I mean Vanderbilt Stadium, yep Rocos and
the jell O shot everywhere. I mean we could go
on and all like basically any like neutral site game, Like,
oh I was not familiar with your game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh you only brought sorry bar, you only brought
thirty bottles of everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be gone.
Speaker 4: If Lshue goes to the SEC championship game like the
team Hotel Bar, they're not ready ever.
Speaker 6: All right, So let's take a look at these numbers. Taylor,
you got that spreadsheet. Check this bad boy out. Who
did an accounting firm to this? Nope, no, no, no, leader,
how I did it? All right? So what we're gonna do.
We're gonna go down just real real quickly. We're gonna
go over our cost of goods here to make a
jello shot, all right, how it goes? I got a
little recipe down there, Thank you chat GBT for giving
me that recipe real quickly. So we're looking at our
raw materials, our cost of goods, what it costs, what
it costs to make these things our costs. So we
look at it. We get these Jellow packet shots. We
got one Jellow packet I believe makes twenty you know,
makes sixteen ounces. One Jellow shot is one ounce. Okay,
so you're substituting a lot of the water with vodka.
It shows vodka here. I know maybe some places you're
just using like a wheat, like an ever Clear type situation,
just like a generic wheat alcohol. We won vodka for this,
all rightkay? So use about standard one uses about a
quarter of an ounce of vodka per shot. Now, it
depends on if you're making If Craig Steltz is making
them for a tailgate game, probably full ounce, right, but
I think a standard bar bars making about a quarter ounce. Here,
So we got I think we had needed total jello
boxes that you would get at a grocery store. I
think we need four. This is just for the LSU
numbers here, four, three and five boxes for those you
need sixty seven handles of vodka.
Speaker 3: Okay, Actually it's not as not as many.
Speaker 6: Because you're only using a quarter of an right now,
rocos I don't know what they do. They might be
using a half ounce, so we would couple that number
whatever you get it, so we can get these packaging
pretty good. I mean, you're getting these little cups for
like one point two cents apiece. You're getting the lid
for like one cent a piece. Then we start looking
at the labor. So chat GBT helped me with us
this bad boy. We look at these labor costs. All right,
So you got this Boiling water takes around five minutes, okay,
mixing the jello, let's just say it takes two minutes
pouring to the cups per batch. You're pouring a bunch
of cups like ten to fifteen minutes. It takes two
to four hours for these things to set. But we're
not counting that. We're not gonna wait. We're gonna make
another batch as soon as we're setting these things. Right now,
let's see. You know, it's got a reasonable set up
here based on pouring speeds. So we're saying that one
person in a seven hour day, which is a normally
eight hour shift, get an hour off to go peek,
get some lunch, blah blah blah. We're gonna make about
three hundred and sixty shots per hour per person. Okay,
Because site's gonna go into our cogs. That's gonna go
into our cost of goods, all right, So total cost
of goods for one jello shot seven and a half
cents for the jello okay, four point two cents for
the vodka, right, one point two cent for cup lids,
ten one cent labor about five and a half cents.
Now that's gonna be the big that's gonna be the
big gray area, right, because you might have a better worker,
you might have a little bit less of a worker.
So total total cogs per shot about twenty nine almost
thirty cents. Okay, Now this is using some pretty cheap vodka.
This is used in a handle, this can, this can
go all over the place.
Speaker 3: And the top shelf.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. So of course we got a sell price
for five dollars, right, so we're making it for thirty cents.
That includes the labor. What also included a little bit
of extra. I put ten and a half cents extra
just for if they have to rent it, like a
reefer cooler, a big refrigeration, maybe some extra bowls and withsts,
so just whatever. We just I just put ten thousand
dollars in there for extra stuff. Equipment or rentals. Right,
all right, So now let's let's take a look at
those cost of goods versus sell price for all of
the Jela shots in twenty twenty three, not just SELU
SU everybody. Obviously LSU by far is leading the way.
That's what we got on this little pink graph over
here on the right.
Speaker 3: Florida TCU way for its Virginia totals.
Speaker 6: They sold ninety five thousand, thirty Jello shots in the
twenty twenty three College World Series. Total revenue on that
four hundred and seven tventy five thousand, one hundred and
fifty dollars at selling for five cents apiece. Total cost
of goods on those jelly shots with everything we talked about,
twenty eight thousand, four hundred and thirty five dollars in
eighty five cents. Now, this is all speculation. I'm not
telling you this is not from Rocos. It might be
a lot more than this, But based on my little
bit of research, when I think their wholesale costs on
everything laving out the labor, we got a total gross
profit before they're overhead gross profit four hundred forty six thousand,
seven hundred and fourteen dollars and thirteen cents, all because
LSU came into town. So that is the economic boom
that Omaha can expect. That's the economic boom that Rock
goes in all the other surrounding areas. Credit to them
for building the brand, executing the brand, and also knowing
what they're doing and also giving a lot to charity.
So credit to them. Count man for one hundred that
one hundred hundred.
Speaker 3: Okay, my heist and in one hundred shots. That's why
we said great work. By the way, I mean great numbers.
That's why we said.
Speaker 4: When Chase Shores had the third strike, nobody, not even
like Jay Johnson's wife, not even the player's moms, were
as excited as Rocos in the ownership group.
Speaker 6: There four hundred and forty six thousand dollars profit after
all their cost expenses. And that's me juicing a couple
of numbers as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah mhm, what well, he's gonna say something. I'm like,
let's go to break because we're gonna have another.
Speaker 3: Look. We're consistent, Okay, we are consistent.
Speaker 7: Needs to be consistently better.
Speaker 3: We're consistently Probably not.
Speaker 6: It could have gone in less details let's go more
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Speaker 4: Welcome back in OTB. One final segment for us today
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