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Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester

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and Matt.

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Speaker 2: Flynn Hester and Hester.

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Speaker 1: From carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each

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other on the air live from the Mercedes Benz Baton

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Rouge Studio.

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Speaker 3: It's off the bench, smarts all right.

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Speaker 4: And welcome back in hour number three, oh TV one,

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O four five ESPN batteries.

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Speaker 3: The timing was better of that one.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say yesterday we discouraged. You didn't say

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it the entire show until just now you called.

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Speaker 6: The annoying yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think we heard his feelings. I think we

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heard his feelings.

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Speaker 6: Get this, dude, who.

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Speaker 7: Is about hour one an hour two?

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Speaker 3: I was like that one was better. That one was better.

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Speaker 4: And speaking of better, we are going to catch up

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with the best right now, our gut Nick Underhill, New

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Orleans Dots Football joins us.

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Speaker 3: Now, Nick, how are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 6: Great?

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Speaker 3: Are you guys doing doing fantastic?

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure you're pretty excited. Not like Christmas morning excited.

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That's like training camp, but you know, maybe like birthday

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excited because you got a little mini camp for the Saints.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it starts, starts today at least two practices they

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scheduled too, with like fans out there, I don't know

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if they'll do all three or not. But yeah, look,

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I think this is a it's an exciting time with

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this team at least, like I've never really been more

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interested to go out and see practices. You know, by

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by August that might no longer be the case because

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they might reveal themselves as not being a very good team.

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But right now, like the gifts still wrapped up, and

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as if that opened up, right, you aren't disappointed. You know,

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your mom didn't get you the team Jordan's instead of

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the Jordan threes, you know, like you got the right Jordan's,

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not the not the foot locker on the shelf, ones

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like that could be in the box. So until you

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find out, Yeah, it's exciting, man, I'm eager to see

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what these.

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Speaker 5: Guys look like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, him as well.

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Speaker 4: There's so many different intriguing position battles. Certainly the quarterback

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is going to lead the charge there, but what the

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offensive line is going to look like. But I want

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to ask you about the running back position because nickd

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does seem like they are in the market for a

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veteran running back. I mean they've kind of been tied

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loosely to some of these running backs.

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Speaker 3: I know, Nick Chubb just went to the Texans.

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Speaker 4: Becam Akers is somebody the Saints are interested in at least,

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and it feels like they want to bring in another

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veteran running back even though they have Ak and Clyde

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Edwards te Layer on the roster already.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because like it's a position that that you know,

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could be crowded if some of these maybes hit, and

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if none of the maybes sad, it's it's the borderline disaster. Uh.

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You know, Clyde's a huge maybe still I think there's

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a lot of talent, but he was available in the

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last season, and you know when a guy's out there

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on the open market in November December that there's usually

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a reason for it. Collin's obvious was a first round pick,

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but it's been a few years since we've seen him

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kind of capitalize on that for a multitude of reasons.

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to where he can show it consistently now so he

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could be Boomer bus Kendre is very boom or bust.

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I still can't get my head around the idea that

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someone can't figure out like eight plays that he can

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execute consistently, because like even when he doesn't know exactly

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what he's supposed to be doing, like we've seen him

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break off nine yard runs like like it's nothing, but

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he's very boomer busy, Devin Neil, You know, a late

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round pick theoretically should be good, but we don't know.

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he's a UDFA and we haven't seen him take a

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hit yet. Like if all those things go sideways, you know,

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running back. Like I don't know when that happens, when

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it hits. But assuming he's he's fine. Yeah, I mean,

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you know he's had two torn achilles, wasn't very good

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last year. But maybe the time and distance from that

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second second torn Achilles, you know, allows him to kind

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of tap into more week he was at the beginning

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of his career. He bounced back really, really good from

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the first Achilles. There second one is taking a little

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bit more time. But yeah, I mean, look, I think

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it makes sense to look at these guys and even

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building on a strength and you're picking the best three

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or whatever at the end of it, that's not a

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Speaker 6: All right, Nick, I'm always gonna lead my questions and

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start off with quarterbacks because we all know the quarterbacks.

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one battle. So going into many camp, is there really

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anything else that you can pull from any camp that

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you didn't pull from OTAs We had Scott Tolzien on

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the show last last week and he was talking, you know,

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really about like this isn't really evaluating for a starter.

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have pads on like training camp. That's when in the

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real competition. But of course that's a little bit of

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coaches talk. But what can a coach in a mini

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camp setting see that we kind of haven't already got

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm really just going out here and I

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just don't want to see one of them look worse

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than than what we've seen. Like I just want to

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see forward progress or holding steady. You know, I feel

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decent about where where these guys are at right now.

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out there and it's limited exposure and we're seeing like

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very short practices, you know, the practicing indoors. It's you know,

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from what I've heard, the practice they've allowed us to

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see each week is a lot more condensed and controlled

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than the other ones. Like we go in, we see

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about seven eight passes from each quarterback, and then we're

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out of there, and you know, it could just happen

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to be that on three we see Spencer Ratler's three

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best days, and you know, there's a positive viewpoint there.

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I think seeing it in this setting kind of you know,

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outside people screaming a little more adrenaline, got the heat going,

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you know, some sweat on the football whatever. All that

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stuff got the actual vets out there now, Like, you know,

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the passes that we've seen throwing in these seven on sevens.

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a little bit different, And like, I hope it does

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look a little bit different, but I don't want it

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to look discouraging different. And like, honestly, like I'm just

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looking for for continued momentum, and uh, you know, I

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believe in that you know, if if X and Y happened,

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then he's possible, you know, and a step back would

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feel kind of devastating. So I just want to see

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a little bit of that that Ford momentum from confidence building,

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kind of picking up the details, you know, I think

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from the sideline you know, for for a non mass

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flint observed like an idiot like me like that, that

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really all they're looking for right now is like little

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pieces of growth being improvement with the reps and then

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you know, just having a menu with things that you

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can handle. Both these guys at the end and say like, hey,

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shock really, you know, and Ratlery too, you know, come

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back look a little bit different. It started turning kid.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think it's a good point because it's

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in competitions like this, it's really easy to overreact. When

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like I had practices where I mean I couldn't miss

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dicing it up, throwing like ten touchdowns in a practice

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right and the other guy would have a couple batted

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down with a line of scrimmage I got picked, you

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know whatever it was, and things that like just look

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bad from an observer standpoint, So it's easy to overreact

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from like a reporting standpoint, like that, but you have

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a good outlook on it. I note that's what kind

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of tolls he was talking about it. We take the

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whole scope into a decision making process and we're seeing

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one practice is just like one little tiny aspect of it.

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on a competition like this that's difficult to manage is

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how each guy gets reps. So every team can handle

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a competition differently from you know, a number standpoint of reps.

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 6: But day by day? Is it? Series by series?

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Speaker 6: You know, one rep by one rep? How are they

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trading that off right now?

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Speaker 2: So well first like yeah, great, Like sometimes I'm embarrassing

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to myself out we talk about these like early practices

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because you're you're like you're waiting six months and you

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go out and you see an ota and you dissect

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eight passes like you know, it's the game winning drive

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in the super Bowl, because like it's all you have

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to talk about, and then you have that just for

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a full week and when it's a quarterback scope, like

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it's it's embarrassing when you look back on it. But

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each day, it's Ben Ratler. He's been first team and

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every single series I think that we've seen, barring one,

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last practice. Rattler took the first team reps the first time,

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then it was Shuck and then they do special teams,

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they come back, and then Shuck went first the next time. Now,

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like a few times when Chuck's went out there with

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the second team, some of the starters from the first

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team defense, it cycled in it at some of the spots,

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and you know, it's kind of like a like a

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half squad or whatever. But for the most part, it's

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Ben Ratler running it. And you know, the first two

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practices we were out there, we didn't see Hunter Deckers

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throw at all. He got a series in this in

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this last ota, So you know, I'm interested to kind

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of see what he can do too. I think there's

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a significant gap between him and the other guys, But

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like his athletic profiles like really really interesting to me,

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and you know, I'm kind of curious to see if

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he can if he can be good enough to maybe

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make the practice squad. I you know, if I had

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to guess right now, I don't think he pushes Jay Canner.

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I think there's a you know, pretty pretty decent golf

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right there. But you know, over time, maybe maybe it

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closes a little bit. But yeah, it looks like rattlers

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in the lead. That's the thing I think I'm most

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interested in going into the training camp is just to

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early and go with them? Or you know, do you

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to run it all the way through the preseason and

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don't know, I don't know what the right way to

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do it is. You know, I kind of lean towards

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settling it, but you know, I could see going through

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the whole thing too. If it stays you know close,

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and you know, just at the end, I just want

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to feel like somebody want it instead of somebody like

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getting it by the fault or somebody losing it. Like,

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really look like they've claimed the job.

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Speaker 4: Catching up with Nick Underhill nuanced out football here on

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side of the football. I know that a lot of

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questions for the Saints are going to be on offense,

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but there's a defensive player that just a year ago

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you traded up in the second round from forty five

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to forty one. So it's like kool Ai McKinstry, and

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I feel like we don't hear a lot about kool Aid.

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What's the plan for him moving forward? I know he's

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you know, changed Jersey numbers. I feel like that's the

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only news that I've really seen because Nick as you know,

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like if you're a second round pick, like you got

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to be a dude. But certainly if they trade up

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forty five to forty one, like that expectation goes up

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even more so. So what's the outlook for kol Ai

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mcintrey heading into his second year?

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Speaker 2: That's the thing I really want to see here, man,

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Like it's felt a little bit too easy for these

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quarterbacks and it's seven on Stevens, like they're going to

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complete more passes in that setting than anything else. But

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like it's been automatic and you're talking around about a

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rookie and a fifth round pick, like this should be

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a little bit more resistant. So I just want to

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see a couple of plays get made out here. Theoretically, Like,

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I think the system should suit Cooy pretty well. Like

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Staley likes to run a lot of the same stuff

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that Staban runs at Alabama, and you know he was

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good there, Like you got picked in the second round

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out of that system, so you know, he should be

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more comfortable in what he's doing, you know, some of

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the powder match stuff and all that. Like, I think

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I think it should fit for him. But yeah, I

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mean I thought I thought the rookie year, you know,

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was just okay. You know, I think he's somebody that

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really needs to take a big leap this year. And

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I think he's kind of, like quietly one of the

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more important guys on the team right now, because like

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if he solidifies one of those positions, you at least

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have an answer. If he doesn't, and then a Lackey Taylor,

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like he's a free agent at the end of this season,

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you might have nothing at cornerback, and like, how are

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you going to address those needs? You don't want to

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be doing it in free agency. You don't want to

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be in a position where you have to be the

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team that pays Jaii Alexander who you know seven games

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last year, seven games a year before that. You know,

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I don't think you want to be in a position

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of weakness at two cornerback spots because like how do

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you address that? And then like what if your quarterback

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isn't good? And where's the wide receiver coming in to

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go behind Chris Alave If you don't want to pay him,

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where are you getting your pass rushers? Like you're talking

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like five six premium positions that you'd have to address.

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Like granted you have cap space, but you don't want

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to buy your way out of out of that, Like

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you want to be able to do it from a

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position to strength. So him hitting I think, is like

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quietly one of the bigger storylines of the season.

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Speaker 6: All right, Nick, give me a I'm interested in in

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Kellen Moore, how he his coaching style, how he presents

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himself on the Every coach is different, right, every every

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coach coach is different. Some of them are yellow some

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of them are laid back, some of them are teachers.

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They're just all different. So tell me about Kellen Moore,

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like on the practice field, how, how what's his demeanor?

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How does he interact with the players, because he's not

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he's probably not that much older than a lot of

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the guys. He might be younger than some of the

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guys that are on the team, but like, so talk

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to us about how that is how he's just been perceived.

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And the guys have really taken to Kellen so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems really smart, and that's the thing you

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kind of hear from everyone, like when they're talking football,

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like they really like him. And I think, you know,

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one of the guys just telling me the other day,

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like one of the things that he's done that that

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you know from the meeting perspective, player perspective, that that's smart.

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Is just kind of tying himself the nut Smyer because

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you kind of get some of that like younger, new school,

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you know, more relaxed, relatable approach from him, and then

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he knows how to pass it off to nus Meyer,

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and thus Meyer can be kind of more like the

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old school you know, uncle who tells you how it

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is type guy and uh, you know, I think that

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blend has come together really well. Yeah, I think he

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kind of presents exactly how you would think he presents,

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time when you look at him, you know, on the field,

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kind of carries himself the same way that that when

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you look at him, like you get kind of what

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you expect. But what was kind of revealing for me

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is LSU had that that coaching clinic and he spoke

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on it and uh, you know, I bought a ticket

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through on a hat and some glasses, sat in the

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back when Hancock me, it'll just to kind of see

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how he himself. Yeah, Conick, and I thought I was

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undercover and I walked into Pj's and someone immediately said

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hi to mean I was like, all right, well I'm

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busted if I go up here. But like, look, seeing

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him up on that stage, like his presence was different

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than then, you know, it was kind of eye opening

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for me. Like when he started talking about football, like

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there was a little more gusto, a little more like bravado,

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and just the way he explained things for you know,

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a regular person, like the way he was breaking it

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down it. It was really understandable. Like he wasn't talking

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over anyone said, he very very much had you know,

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a grasp on the concepts, how to explain it, how

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to teach, how to communicate, and you know he kind of,

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you know, he kind of felt like his shoulders went

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up a little bit and the chests puffed out a

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little bit when he was up there in his own

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element as opposed to like the media setting. So you know,

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I thought, I thought that was a good thing to

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see there. But so far, like I think the buying

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is really good. They're doing like these you know, off

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field community events, and like they're getting good attendants at those,

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which is usually a decent sign. You know, it kind

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of seems like some people are checked him just to

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like the general philosophy of what he sells and like

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beyond football, which I think is I don't know if

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but ultimately means anything. But when you're trying to build

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a culture, it's probably good to have that initial buy

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in on kind of everything. And it seems like it's there.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've learned though that that June buy in

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doesn't necessarily mean anything. There's a lot of buying last

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year and then by by tell Tember there wasn't but uh,

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you know, you don't want to see people not buying in.

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So you know, I think he has a right now,

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and you know, look at some of these vets out

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here this week and and we'll kind of see how

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some of that stuff goes out. I do find it

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kind of interesting that that the attendance, uh, you know,

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from the veteran aspect, is a little bit worse in

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the voluntary part than it was last year. But I

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could understand some general discouragement when the team is where

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it is and the quarterback retires out of nowhere. Uh,

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you know, that's probably probably tougher guys that might be

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in the last year of their uh you know, career

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last year or two.

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Speaker 6: What's that? What's that attendance stat that you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Just like some of the you know, some of the

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vets aren't out there, like you know, just last year,

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it kind of felt like everybody, everybody kind of showed up.

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You know this funny the year Alvin never does so

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like him aside, but you know, some of the guys,

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like like the Mario was kind of working out on

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his own a little bit Tyron was was, you know,

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in and out doing his thing. Cam was in and

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out doing his thing. Like it's just some of those

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guys on that side of the ball, you know typically

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you know, it was just a little bit different, and

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you know that's something that that stands out when you're

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starting over a little bit. But I would probably feel

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a little bit discouraged if I was, you know, a

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guy looking at it like it's it's one of the

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final years of my career. Like, but I don't know,

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you know, people got off field responsibilities, they got kids,

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they got different stuff going on. I don't know why

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people aren't there. It isn't mandatory, but you know, when

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you're when you're looking at three practices in your dissect

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and everything like those are one of the things that

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kind of stand out a little bit.

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Speaker 3: A right there.

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Speaker 4: He is our guy, Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football

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is the website. Nobody does it better when covering the Saints.

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Go check it out, Nick. We appreciate it every single week.

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Speaker 2: Sir, Yeah, don'ts showing me.

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Speaker 3: That was never an option for me missing that anything.

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Speaker 6: Let me tell you, NIX been mixed. Great love talking

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to Nack yea love listening to him until these last

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couple of weeks when I've been asking the questions that

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last answer he gave us might be I don't know,

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I don't know how that's sitting with pretty great.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty good nugget, though.

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Speaker 6: But it's a good nugget, but it's a it's a

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pretty veteran like guys with good names too, so it's

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hard to like jump to conclusion. But man, that's a

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that's a I don't know if it's a talent if

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I want to say, it's a telling answer, but man,

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it's not a great answer.

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Speaker 4: Uh, new coach on like every level, new coach, every coach,

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new coordinator like this.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about it when we come back. Maybe

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what it means your experience with guys missing the workout

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portion of it, because you know, I've got my own

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experiences those dudes it is it is, and they're like

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hard working dudes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like you would never question them.

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Speaker 4: But still it is worth a conversation because it is different.

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Certainly when he says the year before it wasn't like that,

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and so we'll break that down when we come back

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here on OTV.

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Speaker 4: This is a great song, and then you play that

477
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,680
gumbo more more.

478
00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 9: Game than a gumbo. Okay, I asked the same question.

479
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Speaker 4: By the way, I think I like the frame more

480
00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:26,359
than I thought I did. If today is like any indications.

481
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 6: I think we explained it earlier the best. Like you

482
00:21:29,519 --> 00:21:31,880
are sitting in the back seat in the rain, your

483
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parents are driving you to school, and you're just staring

484
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out the back window with that rain.

485
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Speaker 5: Yeah, when people like used to have the CD I'm

486
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,160
like old enough to where I had the CD player,

487
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and I was like, yeah, the book, but like the

488
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,200
walkman that you would take on the bus with you

489
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when you're on your way to school, and like the

490
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backpack head so you can put the headphones whatever. So

491
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like I remember I would have like burned CDs that

492
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,240
I would take to school with me with my walkman,

493
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,640
and the Fray was definitely on the burn CD. But

494
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,960
I'm thinking, like, you know, you used to like on

495
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,200
the bus, tried to act like you were in a

496
00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:13,160
music video.

497
00:22:13,839 --> 00:22:17,039
Speaker 7: But the bus is so like rattling your head that

498
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,160
you wouldn't be able to.

499
00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:21,039
Speaker 3: Did you have the anti skips backpack you had that?

500
00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:23,160
I did, you know? I mean, like it's supposed to

501
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,160
be anti skim, but.

502
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Speaker 6: If it was in your backpack, I had one that skipped,

503
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,480
so I had I had the big one in my.

504
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Speaker 4: Rooms anti shocked, I believe what like how they market if.

505
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Speaker 6: It's skipped like you had? Whenever?

506
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Speaker 9: It was whenever Like I'd argue with mom about like

507
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,480
hanging up my clothes or something. I'd go into the room,

508
00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:39,559
I'm like, let me put on the emotional music, you know,

509
00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:41,880
and I'm mad hanging up the clothes like that was

510
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,319
that was me?

511
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like if it wasn't anti skip, then it had

512
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to be completely flat and level.

513
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah it would.

514
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Speaker 6: So if it's throw in your backpack, I mean.

515
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Speaker 7: Man, I probably have that somewhere in my I need

516
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:53,880
you to find it.

517
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Speaker 4: That would be a great relic to have. Yeah, yeah,

518
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,839
I need that. We got a big last thirty minutes this.

519
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to break down what what Nick Underhill said.

520
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: Sorry a little bit, Sorry, we can turn off the

521
00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:07,440
fray I was. I was vibing good vibe.

522
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: No, I didn't want to talk about it.

523
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 7: I'll lower it. I'll lower it still.

524
00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: Yeah we did.

525
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 4: We did what Nick Underhill said, if you miss it.

526
00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:17,720
He was talking about, you know, some of the veteran

527
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:18,839
players not being.

528
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 3: There for.

529
00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 4: Voluntary voluntary air quit here, you know, workouts in the

530
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,799
off season. And I don't have great experience with this

531
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,920
because we typically in the places that I play, we

532
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:34,720
had one hundred attendance.

533
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

534
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Speaker 4: Sometimes a guy would miss you know, a week maybe

535
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,440
if he had something going on, uh, you know maybe

536
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,079
if his contract whatever. Uh. I think Sean Merriman missed

537
00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:48,559
a week you know here and there, Like Antonio Gates

538
00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:50,839
would miss a week here and there. But at Get

539
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,920
is a Hall of Famer, right and it would he

540
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,279
wouldn't miss just because like you would always eat, have something,

541
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,319
you'd have something, and they know beforehand, and you know,

542
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,599
he was there working out trying to think of like

543
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,640
some like veteran players.

544
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: Course, you know the quarterbacks always.

545
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:10,039
Speaker 6: Going quarterbacks or quarterbacks if they're older, established a dude, like,

546
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960
it's okay, I.

547
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: Never I never established established.

548
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 4: I never had a quarterback miss a single workout play

549
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,799
those two psychos.

550
00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: And I mean that like in the best way possible.

551
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:24,839
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I was never a part of anybody

552
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,400
missing either. And I guess this is like a conversation that, yeah,

553
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,960
you have to tread lightly and you have to like

554
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,039
preface a lot of things because you do never know

555
00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,720
a situation. You never know what personally somebody's going through.

556
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,799
You don't even know what a coach said to maybe

557
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,359
the coach said, yeah, take it, take a couple of

558
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,799
weeks off, Bud. You never know the complete situation, but

559
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,559
from an optic standpoint, And we were talking about it

560
00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,839
at break here like that. That's something that we haven't

561
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,799
heard come out of the camp, out of the off season,

562
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,319
is that there was lower attendance this year than there

563
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,240
was last year. And I don't we're not going to

564
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:59,359
talk like names, because we talked about the guys that

565
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,640
he'd named right there are like, dude, so.

566
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,599
Speaker 3: Like hard work.

567
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,759
Speaker 6: So there's got to be something there, right, But it's

568
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:10,559
just overall, like when your attendance is worse when you

569
00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:13,960
have a brand new head coach, all new staff, all

570
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
new coordinators, all new everything.

571
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: That's the wild part.

572
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 6: Two young quarterbacks, Like you're building something and then your

573
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:28,039
attendance is worse than the year before for voluntary off

574
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:33,680
season workouts. That throws a red flag up. Now that

575
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,680
red flag might have a good reason, but it throws

576
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,359
a big red flag. And like he said that, and

577
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,519
like my ears perked up. I was like, we're like

578
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,920
that's different, and that's not great. It doesn't make us

579
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,920
feel good. We're trying to be real positive towards you, Saints.

580
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a Look, it's a big deal for me.

581
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 4: I want everybody there. I want everybody there anytime the

582
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,119
doors are open. Now, I'm not saying you don't go

583
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,880
take a week here if you've already got something. And again,

584
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,400
the guys that he mentioned are like literally team captain,

585
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,079
hard working guys. But I want everybody there well, certainly

586
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,720
when there's new like he had a head coach, just

587
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,240
like for the Steelers, like if you're if you're t J.

588
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,160
Watt and you and Mike Tomlin y'all know each other

589
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,319
pretty well. You've been together for a while.

590
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: If T J.

591
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,799
Speaker 4: Watt wass to missed a couple of weeks, okay, I'm sure,

592
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,119
or anybody like you know on the Steelers.

593
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,799
Speaker 6: I don't think like you and I. We're not procraaming, like, yeah,

594
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:27,920
you got to be there like you. You have to

595
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,039
be there every first one in, first one out, blah

596
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,400
blah blah. Because there's everyone, Every situation is treated different.

597
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,440
Every person gets treated different. Yeah, and if you're a guy,

598
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,640
if you're a veteran, you get treated differently than a

599
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,720
guy that's a rookie or a second you're guy trying

600
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,720
to just the way of the world, that's how the

601
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,400
world worked. If you're a new situation and you got

602
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,440
a brand new coach, and that's a different than another

603
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:53,960
off season year with an established staff, right, Yeah, you

604
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,480
trash the year before.

605
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: Because you do want to learn. You want to learn.

606
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 4: The day in the day out of how that person

607
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,279
goes about their business. What is this coach? Like, what

608
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,839
does this coach want me to do? Because I'm a

609
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,720
veteran player, Like, what's he expecting from me in this

610
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:08,240
meeting room?

611
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: Because look, there's.

612
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,279
Speaker 4: Gonna be players on this roster that are the same

613
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,480
age as like Keller, Moore and Scott Toldsy there's gonna

614
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,640
be something that they're older, right, but so like they're

615
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,319
gonna lean on those veteran guys a Cam Jordan, the

616
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,480
Mario Davis, Tyr Matthew to be coaches in the meeting rooms.

617
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:30,599
Speaker 3: And you can be like, that's not the responsibility. It's not,

618
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:31,559
but it happens.

619
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: Man, I was so fortunate my rookie year to learn

620
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,480
from one of the best running backs of all time,

621
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:42,519
like Ladaion Thomlinson taught me so much, Darren Sproles taught

622
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,319
me so much, Michael Bennett it was a former first

623
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,240
round pick. He ended his career with us. Man, he

624
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,680
taught me so much. He didn't have to. It's not

625
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,000
the responsibility. LT's want the goats, but like he took

626
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,079
that time. He helped me, He helped Mike Tolbert, and

627
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,200
that was so beneficial for us because the run that

628
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960
coach can only do so much. But when you're talking,

629
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:06,000
you know with one of the greats, which the Saints

630
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:08,920
to Mario Davis, Cam Jordan, Tyren mac those are greats, right,

631
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,079
It's it's another coach in there, and you can get

632
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,559
a lot of those things done. Some of that learning

633
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:16,880
each other, learning expectations in some of these workouts. Even

634
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,039
though technically you're not out there on the football field,

635
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,920
you're still doing football things.

636
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,519
Speaker 6: Young players at that level, I guess. I guess you

637
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,519
could say at any level, they learn more from their

638
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,039
peers than they do a coach from the nuances of

639
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:34,799
playing the game. Now, of course, of course, the coach's

640
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,279
job is to teach you the X and o's teach

641
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:39,920
you the game plan, teach you the playbook, like how

642
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:43,720
he wants you to operate within their system that they're teaching.

643
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:48,039
But actually how to play the game. You're talking about, ladanion,

644
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,640
how to read, how to read the guard, how to

645
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,000
read how to read a different game from the defense,

646
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:58,440
like the nuances of the game are taught by other players.

647
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,880
You say, you're fortunate. I was fort shit, I learned

648
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,359
from one of the best as well. Yeah, I became

649
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,319
a better quarterback I would. I'm a I was a

650
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:09,200
different quarterback because I went to Green Bay than if

651
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,880
I would have gone to the Panthers.

652
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I felt like a straight to the Panthers

653
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,240
I was gonna go Cleveland.

654
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,599
Speaker 6: If I went to the Cleveland Browns, everybody's catching strays.

655
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: Need to catch it. Terrible mistake by the lake.

656
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess all. I'm saying red flag a little

657
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,319
bit for me on a day that we're trying to

658
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:31,720
be positive. Yeah, I don't want to feel like this.

659
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:33,279
I'm going to vacation tomorrow.

660
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: Right uh, And like moving forward, I'm going to assume

661
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,759
like all those players are going to be there and

662
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,119
again like oh for sure for the players that it is,

663
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,200
it's not concerning with who it is because you know

664
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,599
those guys are going to be there, but it is

665
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,799
it is a great time to kind of again learn

666
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,799
each other with all the news surrounding.

667
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:54,559
Speaker 6: The franch not calling it, it's just a bigger picture there.

668
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Of the statement that Nick made was worth at least

669
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,319
exploring the in the conference.

670
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,079
Speaker 3: You see the comments.

671
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:05,799
Speaker 4: Would NFL rookies be able to take a week long

672
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,599
vacation for his birthday after only seven days on the job.

673
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:15,599
Speaker 3: It's a great question. No they would not. That's a

674
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,359
great question. You want to have a.

675
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:22,599
Speaker 6: Rebuttal I think so. I think it's the no, they wouldn't. Yeah,

676
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:23,880
guess what that.

677
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,119
Speaker 3: Uh not in the radio game.

678
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:30,799
Speaker 4: You're not doing it six years buddy, part time, very

679
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,480
part time. All right, last story before we take a break.

680
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaking of like this time of the year, everybody treats

681
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,720
it differently. Every quarterback is going to have a different

682
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,599
level of respect that they're they're given. They just are.

683
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:50,440
I can remember Peyton Maning. We had a tight end,

684
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,079
very talented, young, big tight end, but he was young

685
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:59,079
and he had a good year, but you know, Peyton

686
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:01,599
wanted him to have have like an elite year and

687
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,400
he was close like that kind of player, and he

688
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,559
missed like two days straight of voluntary workouts and Peyton

689
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:12,839
sat there in the locker room and called him and

690
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,000
had it on speakerphone, like like there wasn't a lot

691
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,559
of people around, so it wasn't like doing it for show.

692
00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: It's just like kind of how he was.

693
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: And he's just like, hey, car trouble snooze, something happened

694
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,599
like going on on the outside. We need to know

695
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:29,480
about Like we were good like he was because like

696
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,759
in his mind that player was close to going from

697
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:35,880
a good player to one of the best tight ends

698
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,920
in the NFL, and so like he wanted that work.

699
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,200
He wanted that extra throw in session, like he wanted

700
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,680
him to be in the building, and he was going

701
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,400
to hold him accountable because again it's not mandatory, but

702
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,680
he knew he was in town, he knew he had

703
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,680
been there, he knew he didn't have anything going on.

704
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,799
And so a lot of people might take that the

705
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,759
wrong way and be like, oh my gosh, But I

706
00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:01,200
always had the thought process. Man, if the sheriff can

707
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,359
be here and he's here every single day for workouts

708
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,279
and he's ready to go, if Brandon Stokely, who's in

709
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,720
year seventy three of his NFL career, if Keith Brooking

710
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:13,440
can be here, like everybody should be.

711
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,039
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714
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven Shamps purple and gold to the core.

758
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This is off the bench with Hester and Flynn Baton,

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760
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Speaker 10: So all right, welcome back in OTB.

761
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Speaker 4: It is now time for me to turn it over

762
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:16,400
for some flnonomics.

763
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 6: Did you just make that up?

764
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: I did.

765
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,559
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think if it's good or not. I

766
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:23,440
like it, like it's flnonomics.

767
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: Jello nomics did you know that Bobby Carpenter is a

768
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,960
professor of finance at the Ohio State University.

769
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 6: I actually didn't know he was a professor. Didn't know

770
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:40,239
of finance finance. Wow, yeah, good about that. I mean,

771
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,519
what a win for the meat heads. Good for hell. Well,

772
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480
So started diving into this yesterday, like on the show,

773
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,280
just because I thought it'd be funny to see like

774
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,320
what the jello shots like actually cost as opposed to

775
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,119
like what they sell in the numbers, because like the

776
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:58,199
numbers are astronomical of the amount especially well, I'm thinking

777
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,360
about twenty twenty three. I know they were down last

778
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,400
year because LSU wasn't it, So we're basing all of

779
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,280
this on twenty twenty three. Like the economics involved on

780
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,960
this jealous jot, like what does it cost for them

781
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,880
for Rocos to actually produce that? And then what do

782
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,599
they make? So I think you were telling me, But

783
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,800
a lot of the proceeds are going to the charity,

784
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,119
right is that.

785
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: There's a portion of it. There's a big tors which

786
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,880
is awesome.

787
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like so what what what Rocos has done and

788
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,800
what they did? And I know jealous shots were like

789
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,239
a thing there before, but it got blown out of

790
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,199
the out of the world in twenty twenty three L

791
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,599
Shoe because everywhere we go we drink out every place.

792
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, I mean Vanderbilt Stadium, yep Rocos and

793
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,800
the jell O shot everywhere. I mean we could go

794
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,000
on and all like basically any like neutral site game, Like,

795
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,760
oh I was not familiar with your game.

796
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh you only brought sorry bar, you only brought

797
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:56,119
thirty bottles of everything.

798
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be gone.

799
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:01,519
Speaker 4: If Lshue goes to the SEC championship game like the

800
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,840
team Hotel Bar, they're not ready ever.

801
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 6: All right, So let's take a look at these numbers. Taylor,

802
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:09,480
you got that spreadsheet. Check this bad boy out. Who

803
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,119
did an accounting firm to this? Nope, no, no, no, leader,

804
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,800
how I did it? All right? So what we're gonna do.

805
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,480
We're gonna go down just real real quickly. We're gonna

806
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,159
go over our cost of goods here to make a

807
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,159
jello shot, all right, how it goes? I got a

808
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:26,920
little recipe down there, Thank you chat GBT for giving

809
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,760
me that recipe real quickly. So we're looking at our

810
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,440
raw materials, our cost of goods, what it costs, what

811
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,920
it costs to make these things our costs. So we

812
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,800
look at it. We get these Jellow packet shots. We

813
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,440
got one Jellow packet I believe makes twenty you know,

814
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:46,239
makes sixteen ounces. One Jellow shot is one ounce. Okay,

815
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,840
so you're substituting a lot of the water with vodka.

816
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,000
It shows vodka here. I know maybe some places you're

817
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,679
just using like a wheat, like an ever Clear type situation,

818
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,599
just like a generic wheat alcohol. We won vodka for this,

819
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:00,679
all rightkay? So use about standard one uses about a

820
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,000
quarter of an ounce of vodka per shot. Now, it

821
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:06,119
depends on if you're making If Craig Steltz is making

822
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:09,800
them for a tailgate game, probably full ounce, right, but

823
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,320
I think a standard bar bars making about a quarter ounce. Here,

824
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,159
So we got I think we had needed total jello

825
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,159
boxes that you would get at a grocery store. I

826
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,519
think we need four. This is just for the LSU

827
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:28,599
numbers here, four, three and five boxes for those you

828
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,599
need sixty seven handles of vodka.

829
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Actually it's not as not as many.

830
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,679
Speaker 6: Because you're only using a quarter of an right now,

831
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,800
rocos I don't know what they do. They might be

832
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,880
using a half ounce, so we would couple that number

833
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,320
whatever you get it, so we can get these packaging

834
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,159
pretty good. I mean, you're getting these little cups for

835
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,760
like one point two cents apiece. You're getting the lid

836
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,280
for like one cent a piece. Then we start looking

837
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,559
at the labor. So chat GBT helped me with us

838
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,440
this bad boy. We look at these labor costs. All right,

839
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,559
So you got this Boiling water takes around five minutes, okay,

840
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,679
mixing the jello, let's just say it takes two minutes

841
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,079
pouring to the cups per batch. You're pouring a bunch

842
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,320
of cups like ten to fifteen minutes. It takes two

843
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,480
to four hours for these things to set. But we're

844
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,440
not counting that. We're not gonna wait. We're gonna make

845
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,760
another batch as soon as we're setting these things. Right now,

846
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,280
let's see. You know, it's got a reasonable set up

847
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,079
here based on pouring speeds. So we're saying that one

848
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,239
person in a seven hour day, which is a normally

849
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,199
eight hour shift, get an hour off to go peek,

850
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:28,000
get some lunch, blah blah blah. We're gonna make about

851
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,719
three hundred and sixty shots per hour per person. Okay,

852
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,800
Because site's gonna go into our cogs. That's gonna go

853
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,920
into our cost of goods, all right, So total cost

854
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,599
of goods for one jello shot seven and a half

855
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:42,159
cents for the jello okay, four point two cents for

856
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,599
the vodka, right, one point two cent for cup lids,

857
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,320
ten one cent labor about five and a half cents.

858
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,320
Now that's gonna be the big that's gonna be the

859
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,280
big gray area, right, because you might have a better worker,

860
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,639
you might have a little bit less of a worker.

861
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,320
So total total cogs per shot about twenty nine almost

862
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,760
thirty cents. Okay, Now this is using some pretty cheap vodka.

863
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,280
This is used in a handle, this can, this can

864
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,199
go all over the place.

865
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: And the top shelf.

866
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. So of course we got a sell price

867
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,000
for five dollars, right, so we're making it for thirty cents.

868
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:18,519
That includes the labor. What also included a little bit

869
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:22,119
of extra. I put ten and a half cents extra

870
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:24,119
just for if they have to rent it, like a

871
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:27,880
reefer cooler, a big refrigeration, maybe some extra bowls and withsts,

872
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,960
so just whatever. We just I just put ten thousand

873
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,000
dollars in there for extra stuff. Equipment or rentals. Right,

874
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,199
all right, So now let's let's take a look at

875
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,360
those cost of goods versus sell price for all of

876
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,679
the Jela shots in twenty twenty three, not just SELU

877
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:44,239
SU everybody. Obviously LSU by far is leading the way.

878
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,119
That's what we got on this little pink graph over

879
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:46,760
here on the right.

880
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:50,039
Speaker 3: Florida TCU way for its Virginia totals.

881
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 6: They sold ninety five thousand, thirty Jello shots in the

882
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,239
twenty twenty three College World Series. Total revenue on that

883
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,960
four hundred and seven tventy five thousand, one hundred and

884
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:06,639
fifty dollars at selling for five cents apiece. Total cost

885
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,679
of goods on those jelly shots with everything we talked about,

886
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:12,960
twenty eight thousand, four hundred and thirty five dollars in

887
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:16,320
eighty five cents. Now, this is all speculation. I'm not

888
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,679
telling you this is not from Rocos. It might be

889
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,280
a lot more than this, But based on my little

890
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,960
bit of research, when I think their wholesale costs on

891
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:29,079
everything laving out the labor, we got a total gross

892
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:33,880
profit before they're overhead gross profit four hundred forty six thousand,

893
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,599
seven hundred and fourteen dollars and thirteen cents, all because

894
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,800
LSU came into town. So that is the economic boom

895
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,480
that Omaha can expect. That's the economic boom that Rock

896
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:48,920
goes in all the other surrounding areas. Credit to them

897
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,239
for building the brand, executing the brand, and also knowing

898
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,199
what they're doing and also giving a lot to charity.

899
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,000
So credit to them. Count man for one hundred that

900
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,360
one hundred hundred.

901
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: Okay, my heist and in one hundred shots. That's why

902
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,039
we said great work. By the way, I mean great numbers.

903
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,199
That's why we said.

904
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 4: When Chase Shores had the third strike, nobody, not even

905
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,559
like Jay Johnson's wife, not even the player's moms, were

906
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:20,400
as excited as Rocos in the ownership group.

907
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,599
Speaker 6: There four hundred and forty six thousand dollars profit after

908
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,440
all their cost expenses. And that's me juicing a couple

909
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,119
of numbers as well.

910
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 5: Yeah mhm, what well, he's gonna say something. I'm like,

911
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,880
let's go to break because we're gonna have another.

912
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: Look. We're consistent, Okay, we are consistent.

913
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:42,159
Speaker 7: Needs to be consistently better.

914
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Speaker 3: We're consistently Probably not.

915
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Speaker 6: It could have gone in less details let's go more

916
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917
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918
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919
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936
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Speaker 6: Where that smoke? All right?

937
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Speaker 4: Welcome back in OTB. One final segment for us today

938
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:15,960
for Flann.

939
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:23,039
Speaker 6: For the week are y'all sad. I'm sad. I'm gonna

940
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miss the wolf fact, are you? I mean until tomorrow.

941
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,159
Speaker 4: You're gonna have toes in the sand o SECI's in hand, Bob,

942
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:32,440
I forget about.

943
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Speaker 6: Y'all for a few days.

944
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Speaker 7: Just kidding, you're gonna forget about it.

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Speaker 6: I just kidding. I told Jake, I'm gonna try to

946
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I'm gonna try to know you're not. I was gonna

947
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try to FaceTime in from the plane, FaceTime dollars WiFi

948
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about that twenty dollars Wi Fi on the plane and

949
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then it like doesn't even work?

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Speaker 3: Is long enough, long enough?

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Speaker 6: But there's sometimes I get on a fight for a

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work driven, like I gotta do emails because it's during

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like midday on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 9: I don't think there's anything on a plane i'd pay

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twenty bucks for.

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Speaker 3: I paid the Wi Fi on three and a half

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hour Cali flight.

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Speaker 6: If they were like, I'm not row dog in a flight, No,

959
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I can't.

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Speaker 3: Won't do it. As the bench favorite vodka, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I'm not a vodka person. I guess Tito's.

962
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Speaker 3: That's the most popular one.

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Speaker 9: Usually is a big one.

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Speaker 6: My wife and I did a blind vodka like a

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martini taste test. We did like the four popular ones,

966
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and kettle one actually won in the blindest work for

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for a specific martini.

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Speaker 4: Tito's usually uh, let's see ass the bench favorite shot.

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Speaker 7: It's just good old tequila.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think I ever like stick to the basics,

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whiskey basics that tequila basics ice called firebomb.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you lemon drops, Yeah, it feels.

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Speaker 6: Right for lemon drop.

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Speaker 1: Off the bench.

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Speaker 3: You didn't deny it.

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z blind dot com that is k to z Interiors

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and Outdoor Living. Been doing it since two thousand and four.

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And well, that is a very long time ago. That

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was when Flynn and I were freshmen in college. Tell

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you how long ago that was. He was a Recha

982
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freshman even older. So if you've been in the game

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that long, it means you're doing things the right way.

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It means you are making sure your customers are incredibly happy.

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Speaker 3: Interior outdoor living, they can do it. Both.

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