WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.000 Excited for This does not happen often because he's very busy. 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:05.559 I had a chance to go play in his charity 3 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:08.039 golf tournament. It was a first class event, one of 4 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:09.640 the best to ever do it, both in college and 5 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:12.119 pro football. Steve Young kind enough to join us on 6 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:13.679 a Monday Steve, Happy Monday, sir. 7 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:15.839 How are you you two? Spence great to have you 8 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:20.359 last week. And your brother Nate and Roan is a 9 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:22.320 r h o any. You got to get that out 10 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.760 there because he's built a business that's amazing. It's I 11 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.440 don't wear the suits all stretch so for church that's 12 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.640 all I wear. I don't wear anything else. Never again 13 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:33.039 will I wear anything other than stretch suits. Man, I'm 14 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:33.759 not missing around. 15 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:34.799 I'm with you. 16 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:37.200 I'm currently wearing round. I wear it every single day. 17 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:39.759 And I'm certainly proud of my little brother man. He's 18 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.359 certainly built a great company. Unfortunately, Steve, he doesn't have 19 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:43.960 a lot of time to play golf, as you saw 20 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:44.759 from the scorecard. 21 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:47.280 Yeah, and that's okay, none of us do so fine, 22 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:50.640 it's fun, it's good to be together. Good Danny Aings 23 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.200 came down and I love you know. Danny was the 24 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:55.159 one that I watched when I was a freshman, just 25 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.920 killing it at BYU and gave me the idea that 26 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.200 you could be great at something. And I remember I 27 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.799 was equipment manager. Fret Floyd Johnson at the time had 28 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:08.200 me come in and do the visiting team towels so 29 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:10.480 that after the game, I and during the game I 30 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:12.719 would give them towels and then I would clean up 31 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.120 the you know kind of the shower and everything. After that, 32 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:17.640 those guys left on the bus and that was my job. 33 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:20.920 And I got to sit on the visiting bench to 34 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:23.519 watch Danny Ainge and that team in nineteen eighty dominate. 35 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.719 And so anyway, he came down and joined me for 36 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:27.799 the tournament last week, as you saw, and I love 37 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:28.519 seeing him. 38 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.319 And I remember playing basketball lacrosse against your little brother. 39 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:33.000 I hadn't seen Jimmy in a long time, so it 40 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:35.359 was just great to be with everybody. And I can't 41 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:37.200 thank you enough for having us out, Steve, so I 42 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:37.760 appreciate it. 43 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:41.319 By the way Jimbo, Jimbo played lacrosse. He was He 44 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:43.920 loved playing defense a long stick, and I go, Jimbo, 45 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:45.560 what if lacrosse it looks like to me? You just 46 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.680 hacket people just take the stick and just wrap. What 47 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:51.480 kind of game is this? Man? It was fun to 48 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:52.400 watch that. That was great. 49 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.120 Yeah, most defensive players that's all they do is hacket people. 50 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:55.799 You would have been a. 51 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:58.560 Great lacrosse player, hey, Svens. Just like anyone in defense 52 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:01.239 on look, defense is all about just leon want to 53 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:04.200 screw you up saving football, you know, I mean, how 54 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.560 can you play defense in football? What's my job? Just 55 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:08.240 to screw everything up? I just want to screw up. 56 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.039 I just want to I want to mess everything up. 57 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:11.800 Like what kind of world is that to live in? 58 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:12.719 I don't understand it. 59 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:14.360 Yeah, no, I hear you, Steve. 60 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:17.400 So I want to start with just a Macro overview 61 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:20.319 question about the season Brigham Young has had after Vegas 62 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:21.919 set the over under at four and a half and 63 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.039 the media picked them to essentially finish last. And yes, 64 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.439 they've lost too straight, but if they win on Saturday, 65 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.159 that's a ten win season, which is nothing to shake 66 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:31.240 your head at at all. 67 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.159 What do you most attribute. 68 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:35.159 What most people believe is a very surprising season from 69 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:36.360 BYU football this year? 70 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.919 Well, Number one, I think Jay Hill's built a defense, 71 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.879 especially the first three quarters of the season, and all 72 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:46.280 of us are wondering kind of here at the end, 73 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:51.199 what's gone you know, not gone wrong, because, like you said, 74 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.639 the expectations, but we just have to let's deal with 75 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:58.199 the Big twelve championship every year and let's just be 76 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.319 that right. And so if we say to ourselves, how 77 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:03.599 did we get here? We got here on the first 78 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:05.960 five games on a defense that was not going to 79 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:08.120 let the game get away from us, and because he 80 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:10.319 didn't get away from us. And I really appreciate Jake 81 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:12.639 let Retsloff and his work that he did in the 82 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:16.319 offseason to change his game. He got better and when 83 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:18.159 he showed up in the fall, he was a better 84 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:19.639 player than he was the year before. And I just 85 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.319 admired that because so much of that is the grinding 86 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:26.280 work of the school work of going in the film memorization, 87 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:29.000 it's the stuff that is boring and tedious, and I 88 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.400 was I appreciated that. So that allowed Jake to come 89 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:36.360 out and learn and have some space in those early games, 90 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:39.719 and they could. They didn't. He didn't do anything crazy bad. 91 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:41.919 He just took some time to grow, and the offense 92 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:43.520 grew with him, and all of a sudden, the stars 93 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:49.759 showed up all over the field, and to me, that's 94 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:51.759 how it happened. And then we just we won some 95 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:54.800 close ball games and kind of got some momentum. And 96 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:57.599 I think just here when we got to six in 97 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.560 the nation and everyone we watched all week at ESPN 98 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:04.879 when when they were doing the show and also beat 99 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:06.680 while using the top four and getting a buy and 100 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:09.800 maybe Ohio State comes to you know, to us and 101 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.159 you know, it just was it was heavy, heady things 102 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.080 that we had not had the privilege of being around 103 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.839 for a long long time. And to be there and 104 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:20.879 if to taste it was amazing and we got to 105 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:22.720 get used to it. And I think the last two 106 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:27.160 games particularly are ones that we I don't know that 107 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.519 we were ready ready yet like we have to we 108 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:31.519 have to well you have to wear the shoes. You 109 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:33.279 got to be in those games and know what's at 110 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.240 stake and know and you know, deal with the build 111 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:39.360 up and and it's just an emotional sophistication that you 112 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.680 get over time that we need to just be, you know, 113 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:43.920 we need to kind of grow into. So that's my 114 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:46.680 kind of sense of the season. I couldn't be I'm 115 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.000 ecstatic at what we got out of the season. There's 116 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.199 no question what we can still get out of the season. 117 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:53.519 But if we're you know, I just pray that we 118 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:55.720 get a shot at the championship because if we can 119 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.720 be unleashed again emotionally and kind of stand in the 120 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:01.199 shoe that we were in the middle of the season, 121 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.759 I think, as I said then, when I remember when 122 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.120 Fox came to town for the Arizona game, we can 123 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:08.759 we can stay with anybody, but we have to we 124 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.360 have to we have to, you know, be comfortable in 125 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:13.399 the shoes that we're wearing the time. So I know 126 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.480 it's a bad analogy, but you get the idea. 127 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:17.639 No, I get the idea, And I actually wanted to 128 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.759 follow up there because it's different when you are not 129 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:24.360 expected to do much of anything and you just catch 130 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.920 everybody off guard. But ultimately they were at nine to 131 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.480 zero with everything in front of them, the old cliche 132 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:32.319 that I don't like controlling their own destiny. So what's 133 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.399 the type of mentality and the approach that you have 134 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:38.480 to take once you go from nobody expected us to 135 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:40.360 be here too, We're at the top of the mountain 136 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.879 and all we need to do is handle our business. 137 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.839 Because they have not been unable to do that. 138 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.639 Steve in the past two games, like, what's the change 139 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:49.519 in mindset once you get into that space. 140 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:54.240 Well, it's human nature when you you know, as I said, 141 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.079 we need to start every season with we're going to 142 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.040 go to the big World Championship and that is it's 143 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:01.120 make or break, and we're going to recruit that way, 144 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:03.560 We're gonna play that way, we're gonna call we're gonna 145 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:05.600 call defensive offense that way. And that's where we have 146 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:07.600 to live and we have to have that expectation, the 147 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.959 idea that we thought we'd be four an hour. They're like, 148 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.000 what's amazing. I mean, we thought we'd be fourteenth and 149 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.079 then we'd be I'm not much for that, Like we 150 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:17.959 need to have we're going to be in the Big twelve, 151 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:20.000 but we're going to compete. Let's go do it. And 152 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.879 I love what basketball's done and what football is going 153 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:24.560 to do and what is do what they're doing today. 154 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.000 So the last couple of games you could tell that 155 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.839 emotionally again I felt it. It was funny like you know, 156 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.199 as you're watching again watching the ESPN and you're watching 157 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:37.560 the they described you know, the playoffs, whose seedings and 158 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:39.959 what it was going to be and it's just really 159 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:43.680 really heavy stuff. And so I think when you're not 160 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:45.959 used to it, which how can you be used to it? 161 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:49.040 We've never been there, and even when we won the 162 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.879 national championship nineteen eighty four, it wasn't the same kind 163 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:55.199 of situation. And so this is just a we're in 164 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:58.160 a new spot. It's really cool, it's fun, it's like exciting. 165 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.519 But human nature is when you get those huge expectations 166 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:05.199 you're not used to it, you tend to retract, you know, 167 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:09.480 you tend to to you know, kind of be careful 168 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:12.279 and uh, and because you don't want to lose it, 169 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.079 you know, like, oh my gosh, I have a shot here. 170 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:16.800 This is amazing. Let's not blow it. And it's just 171 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:18.600 natural when you're not when you haven't done it very much, 172 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:20.839 that you don't get as you're not as expansive as 173 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:23.199 you were when you're inhabiting to lose, and all of 174 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.920 a sudden you have lots to lose and it gets hard. 175 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.399 And so the way I would get through it, which 176 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.959 is hoping. What I was hoping for last week is 177 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:32.959 that after getting you know, kicked in the teeth in 178 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.240 Canada at home against Kansas that we would say, Okay, 179 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.879 enough of that, Let's fake it till we make it, 180 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.360 Like let's shust We're not going to do it this way, 181 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.720 let's let it rip. And I think in the second 182 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.920 half last week we did and we almost pulled it off, 183 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:51.079 but because we started slow, it's and I guess we 184 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.519 have to You have to go through it, organize, you know, 185 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:55.560 the school has to go through it, fans have to 186 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:57.600 go through it, the coaches have to go through it, 187 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.360 the players especially have to go through and so build 188 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.120 those muscles. And that's what the season is amazing about. 189 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.519 But I don't want any right now. I don't want 190 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:07.959 any talk about oh, what a great well, it doesn't 191 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:11.199 matter we'd had a great season. Oh Like, no, we 192 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:16.160 are here own it. Jump in like don't give an inch, 193 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:18.879 and like we just pray that somebody lose this week 194 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.639 so we can get in that championship game and build 195 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:23.639 the muscles that we're gonna need for the next twenty 196 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:25.839 five years. Like this is not going away. We don't 197 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.639 want it to go away. And so I just can't 198 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.799 stand when we settle when things have gone so well, 199 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:34.840 like no, this is how we got this is us 200 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:38.840 every year, so nothing but and so I just I 201 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:40.919 want to make sure that people kind of hold on 202 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:41.720 that one. 203 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:43.440 Of the best to ever do with Steve Young is 204 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.759 our guest. On a Monday, Stevie referenced the improved play 205 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:48.799 of Jake and I want to dig into it because 206 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:51.679 I love talking to quarterbacks about other quarterbacks. And last 207 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:54.440 year zero to four as a starter and just way 208 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.200 too many mistakes and unfortunately that interception down the stretch 209 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.240 against Sasu was costly. But he's been in so much 210 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.279 better than he was a year ago, and I think 211 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.559 so much better than most people thought he could be. 212 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:08.879 Probably people even down there, what do you attribute most 213 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:12.639 his overall improvement to and how good can he be 214 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.120 moving forward next season? 215 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.759 One of his best qualities is I called him a swashbuckler. 216 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:19.960 You know, it's like the I'm not sure what that 217 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:22.000 actually means, but in the image of my mind is 218 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.799 somebody who gets back and it's going to let the 219 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:26.600 ball's coming out, and it's going to be aggressive and 220 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:28.799 and and so I like that about him, But the 221 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:33.159 problem is it was unreally and wild and reckless. And 222 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.399 so the only way to take what is a good 223 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:38.720 quality and hone it so that it becomes something profitable. 224 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.720 Is to own the data you have to Your brain 225 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.759 has to be able to have reflexive recall of coverage 226 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:50.000 and and and have instinct instinctive sense of when safeties 227 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.559 are rotated, where does that mean? I'm where's win in weaknesses? 228 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.279 Where are people going to be That's the one thing 229 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.879 about defensive football is sooner or later they'll tell you 230 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.399 what's happening. If you've got to pay attention, and you 231 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:02.679 have to be able to own the data. To get there, 232 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:03.679 you have to be able to come out of the 233 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.600 huddle not be thinking about the play, not be thinking 234 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:09.360 about motion that should be instinctive, not thinking about blitz, 235 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.840 not thinking about you know, you know, tendency. It's like 236 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:15.159 I got all that, it's in my mind. It's reflective. 237 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.279 Now I can really just hone in on safeties, follow them, 238 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.279 and that'll tell me the truth of what this defense 239 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.480 is doing. And then I'm not throwing it into people's chest. 240 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:26.440 I'm ahead of it. So even when there's little, you know, 241 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.039 little nuanced things that happen where receivers adjust or whether 242 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.360 I have to move in the pocket, your brain is 243 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:36.879 now processing something that you can actually it's not wild. 244 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:40.240 It's like set and that's where every quarterback's trying to get. 245 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:43.279 And so that's why Meyer Jake's work to really start 246 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:44.919 to hone that in as he's there all the way 247 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:49.080 obviously not but I want to tell him that I 248 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:52.279 know how hard that was, and he has gotten significantly better, 249 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:54.600 and I hope this week that he is. I know 250 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:55.919 you got to school and now you do have to 251 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:58.080 go to school this week, do you So he should 252 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.159 be studying eight hours a day to try to make 253 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.639 sure that he has that reflective recall, so that against 254 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.200 Houston everything, I'm ahead of the data. There's nothing that 255 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.120 happens that shocks me. I still might make a choice 256 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:14.399 to take a risk. I still might make you know, 257 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:16.200 someone might knock the ball out of my hand. I 258 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.840 still might try to I might make an athletic move 259 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:22.519 that costs me where you know, I fumble or the 260 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.600 ball slips out of my hand. There's things that physically 261 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.759 can happen, but my mind will always be ahead of 262 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:29.759 every play. And if that's the case, you're going to 263 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:30.559 play great football. 264 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:32.879 So I want to ask you a question about Kilotate. 265 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.279 When Kloane was up here as the decordinator. We did 266 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.799 a coaching show every week, and I you know, became, 267 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.200 you know, a real fan, not just of him as 268 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.480 a football coach, but of him as a person. I'm 269 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:45.080 not sure how you can not be a fan of Kilani. 270 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.480 And there was this really cool video going around social 271 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:53.200 media Steve of Killani in twenty seventeen after the East 272 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.080 Carolina loss, which was their seventh straight, showing up to 273 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.440 do his coaches show on BYU TV and then seeing 274 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.960 all of his family, uh, you know, kind of fill 275 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.279 in and the players and their families fill in to 276 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:07.840 kind of fill uh the area, to show their support 277 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:09.320 because there was a lot of heat around him, and 278 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:12.519 Kilone started crying when he saw the support. And so 279 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.200 I've always pulled for him because I want him to 280 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:17.679 stay employed and do well and all of our. 281 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:19.399 Utah guys, you know, a rod et cetera. 282 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:23.039 What sort of questions do you think Kilanie has answered 283 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:25.279 as far as the way he's been able to figure 284 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:27.559 out this new reality of college football with a really 285 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:28.279 solid season. 286 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:29.600 No matter how it ends. 287 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:35.519 Kilani is a great He's he's an inspiration. You want 288 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:37.360 to play for him, you want to win for him. 289 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:40.840 He'll stand there, He'll take it. You know, he's accountable. 290 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:46.159 He he he's he's willing to risk it for you. 291 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.840 Like he makes you feel like like you know, he's 292 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:55.240 got my back and and no matter what happens, and 293 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:58.279 and I love that about him. And he's you know, 294 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:00.519 he's trying to kind of channel the vewards in his 295 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.559 heart and he talks about it a lot. And I 296 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.200 see that. I see the ability to see other people 297 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:09.279 in their potential and kind of inspire them to be better. 298 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.840 That that's his best quality now. And I think defense, 299 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:15.279 he has instincts for defense. And I think when he 300 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.759 jumps in and really helps there, it matters. And with Jay, 301 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:22.639 I think that he's got somebody there that is, you know, 302 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.159 top line recruiter. That's number I mean it's not normal one, 303 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:29.159 but j Hill is a number one recruiter. Like he's 304 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:33.240 very good and we're getting We're not are requires a 305 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.320 long answer, but back to Klonnie, But we we recruit 306 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.679 sometimes we can be petty at times, we can be 307 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.120 a little institutionally lazy a little bit where we you know, 308 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:46.559 if you don't want to be here, maybe this isn't 309 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:47.919 the right place for you. We got to you know. 310 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:49.799 And I think we're changing, we're getting so that we'll 311 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.240 we'll compete against anything. It will if we lose to Georgia, 312 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.279 if we lose to Utah, we lose the USC, that's okay, 313 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:57.840 We're going to be in the mix. And we're going 314 00:13:57.919 --> 00:13:59.240 to get in the mix more and more. And so 315 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:02.399 Jay Will I think it's to help the chronic can 316 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.919 get on defense. And then a rod I think he's 317 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:07.639 got people around him that can go do those things 318 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:10.600 that to alleviate the stress so that he doesn't have 319 00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:14.679 to do too much. And uh, and I think on 320 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:17.399 the offensive side, we've got to be better recruiters. We've 321 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.960 got to be able to attract you know, we have, 322 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:22.279 you know, four or five great quarterbacks and then pick 323 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.519 and we've got to, uh, you know, do the do 324 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.320 the outreach. We've got to do the day to day. 325 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:30.000 We got to do the blocking and tackling. We've got 326 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:32.399 to do the the all the stuff that's gonna help 327 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:35.360 Killanne be able to put a team on the field 328 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:38.519 because everybody in the country, I mean, Lewis Riddick is 329 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:40.720 a good friend of mine. He does ESPN college games. 330 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:42.600 I did Monday night, Kyle count down with him for 331 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.879 a couple of years. I love Lewis. Lewis a smart, 332 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.919 dynamic human being and and when he came out to 333 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:51.600 buy U, he had thought about what BYU is going 334 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:55.240 to be and he left with like inspired, and how 335 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.320 so much it was about Kilane and about Tom's athletic 336 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.320 program and and the and a sense of inclusion that 337 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:04.320 they've built and the way that Klannie coaches, the way 338 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:07.279 he teaches, and the way that he's authentic day to day, 339 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.159 and so all of that is so vital about diversity 340 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.080 and all the other issues. Lewis Ritick left is like, man, 341 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.039 be what you and Colanie like I'm in And I 342 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:21.039 think that that's the way the country's starting to understand. 343 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:24.480 And that's why he's so important to us. We need Colannie, 344 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.000 We need him to be all of who he is 345 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:30.480 and then also look for the help for the things 346 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:32.799 that he you know that that you know he can't 347 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.519 do everything, and so I think he's finding that balance. 348 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.120 And so I love what you said about in twenty seventeen. 349 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:40.960 I'll rally. I mean, if Colonie's in trouble, I'm going 350 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.039 to show up. I'll be there. You know what I mean, 351 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.279 I want to rally around Klanie and that's the kind 352 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.080 of guy he is, and so like you can. My 353 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.039 sense of it is is that we're in the Big twelve. 354 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:53.720 Let's act it, let's be it, let's be all about it. 355 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:55.679 And this is not a this should not be a surprise, 356 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:58.679 and and Colonnie's not surprised. Let's go do it every year. 357 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:00.279 See before, Yeah, you lose. 358 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.440 I would be remiss if I didn't take this opportunity 359 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.679 to ask you about your I don't think i've ever 360 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.919 heard you speak on this, your opinion on what college 361 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:10.799 football has become and what do you think it will 362 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.360 eventually become when the dust actually finally settles and there's 363 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.080 no more chaotic alignment. I mean, you know, obviously nil 364 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.960 transfer portal. I am for these players getting paid. I mean, ultimately, 365 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.840 they have always been the product and a business was 366 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:27.840 built on their backs and they didn't get a piece 367 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:30.120 of it. So I'm fine with it, But a lot 368 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.320 of people aren't necessarily down now. It hasn't affected ratings, 369 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.120 it hasn't affected attendance. But what's the Steve Young take 370 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.919 on the ever changing landscape of college football and what 371 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:39.919 do you think comes next. 372 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:50.600 Well, look, equity value in sports is just growing exponentially. 373 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:54.799 It's nuts. The NFL equity values and that's the value 374 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:57.440 of the of the of the team, like if they 375 00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:59.679 got a fan stock is like, this is the value 376 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.080 of the team for the Sanrusco forty nine ers. Let's 377 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:06.240 say in two thousand, it was three hundred million dollars, 378 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:09.519 four hundred million dollars. In twenty twenty four, it might 379 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:13.880 be twelve billion dollars. Like, it's insane. And so college 380 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:19.200 football has equity value, and that's what everyone's trying to grab, right, 381 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:23.039 everyone's trying and the players college kids were trying to 382 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.920 speak to the NCAA for years. Look it's this money 383 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:30.359 is just growing exponentially, and we're the ones on the field, 384 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:32.680 and we're the ones that are like, have the injuries 385 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:35.880 and don't we're not graduating, we're not we're not insurance, 386 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:38.480 and we're like, like, this is crazy. And so the 387 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.799 NCAA basically just closed their ears forever and it got 388 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:47.119 burned because then it went to the judiciary and jujitsuary said, look, 389 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.720 these guys, it's not fair. And so then now it 390 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.000 became the Wild West. Now this year as you know 391 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.240 Spence coming in twenty five is the twenty million dollars. 392 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.559 It's like there's money that's going to come now from 393 00:17:57.640 --> 00:17:59.960 the school. It's going to be a portion of the proceeds. 394 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.079 It's going to be revenue sharing, which is smart, Like 395 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.279 it starts to stabilize what is insane right now and 396 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.519 the NIL and the wild West, and then the schools 397 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.000 are you know some schools are they're in charge of 398 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.799 the NIL when they're not supposed to, and it's like 399 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:16.720 the whole thing is is such a mess. So that 400 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:20.480 will bring some stability and unfortunately that stability will bring 401 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:24.319