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Speaker 1: And now stay tuned for Mac Maloney's Military X Files

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on the Distant Thunder Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: We didn't lie to your folks.

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Speaker 3: We told you we had living, breathing monstrosity you laughed at,

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and yet you might be even as they are. They

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did not ask to be brought into the world, but

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into the.

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Speaker 4: World they came.

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Speaker 3: Their code is a lawn to themselves.

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Speaker 5: Offend and you append them all.

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Speaker 1: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around

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the world every month.

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Speaker 6: Most can be explained as natural.

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Speaker 1: Phenomena, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters,

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the strangest of coincidences, abduction theories and remote viewing, plus

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what the hell that switch ever for breakfast? All these

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things and more are revealed every week on Mac maloney's Military.

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Speaker 7: X Files show.

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Speaker 6: So join Mac and the.

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Speaker 7: Rest of the Gang one one Switch Club, Raven, Susie

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and Susan, Uncle Al and.

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Speaker 1: Agent X as they delve into the ultimate mysteries of

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time and space and how much to tip your waitress.

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This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files and now here's.

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Speaker 7: Macp Wow Wow Wow Wow.

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Speaker 6: Here we are again.

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Speaker 7: Welcome everyone to mc maloney's Military XA show here in

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the distant thunder way. This is Macloney. What a show

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we have you tonight, broadcasting live from the Stobby Galley Restaurant,

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fifty five Water Street and New report in Massachusetts, great seafood,

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Great Hamburg is in a great steak and cheese Sammy.

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Interesting show tonight, But first let me introduce the colled Conspirators. Girls.

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You've been feeling his vibe now for about five or

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six weeks. Yes, that's what it is. And now he's

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still here, still here, not deported yet, So get back,

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get your h never say never though, get your fan,

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get your box of Kleenics, your big box of wipes.

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You're squeezing your little by No, I'm leaving something out,

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but I just don't want to tell you that he's there.

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The very famous walm one.

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Speaker 6: Hello everybody, Hello Mac, Hello gang, Good to see everybody.

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And I'm happy to be here and happy to be anywhere.

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But it's a beautiful day and it's going to beautiful show. Okay,

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good to know. Yeah, how'd you spend your afternoon when

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you're at the beach sunning yourself? Oh I wish no,

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I was messing around with your technology. Situation.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was bad, but you fixed it. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you're welcome.

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Speaker 7: Also here with us in the mobile studio is a

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produce or engineer, be keeper.

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Speaker 6: You showed you to say that?

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Speaker 7: Why you replace the forty thousand you murdered? And uh,

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you know everything else? Ulco a case fall.

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Speaker 6: Hey Macilo, everybody, what's really well?

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Speaker 8: What you do?

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Speaker 7: How'd you spend in the afternoon stunning yourself on the beach?

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Speaker 9: Actually I had a bunch of work to do in

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the morning, but I did manage to get on the

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deck with a few beers.

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Speaker 7: And did you really fly out.

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Speaker 6: In the sun, you know, on the deck?

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Speaker 7: Really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I have this life is doing to lose my phone?

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Speaker 9: Five foot walls on the deck so it keeps the

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wind away and it's private.

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Speaker 6: So you go out there, that's a good job. On

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the fence to it, it's almost backed into it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you won't be the first of the last. Well,

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I should give you fifty bucks now from whatever.

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Speaker 6: It seems so close to Max driveway.

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Speaker 7: That's what I said, but it's actually three feet almost

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back from my boundary anyway. Also with us is our

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senior international correspondent down there on my sister's tank to

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West Virginia. Switchblade Steve Ward switchy.

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Speaker 4: Great to be here tonight.

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Speaker 7: Okay, he's got that black shirt on looking very professorial.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a month man shirt disclosure.

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, no glasses tonight, No glasses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 7: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Caro would not be able to read my fringe report

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without them. I just would have to wing it.

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Speaker 7: Carol Channing, what a great entertainer. Thank you, switch raining

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my pleasure. Also with us, laughing up a storm is

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our senior international security chief, Willie Club see the one.

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Speaker 6: The only.

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Speaker 8: That's I'm mouthful, isn't it?

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Speaker 7: Well that's what she said, No listen.

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Speaker 8: Well, well, anyways, I just don't know where the time goes.

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Speaker 6: It does seem like that this great to be back again.

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Speaker 8: Yeah it does. And it takes three days forward to

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a big, big show tonight.

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Speaker 7: Well, don't send the bar that high.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'd like to like to make it sound good anyway, Okay,

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Speaker 7: Also with us, Also with is our biggest fan down

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in North Carolina, if not South Carolina. It's Susan, kay,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How else could should I be when

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I'm here with you?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 7: I would love to take that, you know, I would

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love that. But what's going on over your shoulder? What

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Speaker 2: Is he playing the cello?

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Speaker 6: Why is he?

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Speaker 7: Is he ever doing anything other than that?

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Speaker 2: One here? That's in a cat coma? Okay then yeah, sorry.

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Speaker 7: And there are no cap policy on the show.

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Speaker 4: Well there are meerkats?

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Speaker 6: Do we really adhere to that? Here we go?

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Susan everywhere everywhere, that's the problem. Also joining us up

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there in Wisconsin, it's our good friend Brandy. Brandy with

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a little hot over the eye, Brandy, how are you great?

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Speaker 7: You both look very fashionable tonight. I'm talking about Susan

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in Susan has the one one handgoing as always, and

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there's enough enough of it to block out that cap

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Speaker 7: Randy has a very cool hat on and classes looking

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Speaker 6: When you say it want or it being a stand

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in for a Woody Woody Allen movie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go. I can see that Dan Keaton

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stand in. Yeah yeah, right, what do you think? What

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Speaker 7: Brandy, thanks for joining us. How's everything up there in

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it's so warm, it's unbearably warm.

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Speaker 6: Really, what's warm there?

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Speaker 7: Sixty?

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Speaker 7: We haven't seen eighty this year. One one has come home.

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Speaker 6: Literally, it's been crappy.

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Speaker 5: Well send it this way. I have to say I've

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Speaker 7: Now, okay, sure, that's it?

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Speaker 6: All right? Yeah? Okay, Wow, that's me bringing the heat.

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that can perfect wow? Okay, Well let's talk a little

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bit about the show tonight. Uh, we're going to hear

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from Brandy on something called the stigmato, which is always

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very interesting to me, where you can have such a

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deep religious belief that this happens to some people, that

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the wounds that Jesus suffered, you know, on Good Friday,

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they appear on your hands and your feet, in your side,

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about Switchy where we talk to you about well.

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Speaker 4: It said it's coming from a book called UFO Hostilities

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the Evil Alien Agenda, which is you know, sounds like

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one of the Timothy Green Beckley's books, and in fact

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it is, Oh yeah, okay, and so it's filled with anyway,

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it's going to be specifically on the research of a

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gentleman named George G. Fawcett, who was an investigator back

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in the old days, and he is actually the guy

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, right, okay, So Tim and Tim Schwartz was

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Speaker 4: Yes, Tim Schwartz who's been on this show several times.

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Speaker 7: They're very good. Uh so one of them passed away though, correct, Yes,

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many of his books. He was a great publisher and

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going to see surprise guests. Surprise guests. There'll be a

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surprise if they show up on the other side of

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the wall here. So Susie, kay, what is your staff?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have top ten one one left for you today.

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, we can do the bit cool. Okay,

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ten dumb things one one has done since coming back

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to the night.

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Speaker 4: Now, should I have a question? Should club turn off

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his ear plugs? He doesn't have to suffer through a

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top ten list, it's up to him.

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Speaker 8: You I've already ready for it.

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Speaker 7: You're already ready for it. Yes, it's like he's already.

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Speaker 8: I'll be going doctoring that.

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Speaker 7: He's already got the novacate. So well, without further ado, Susan,

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this is uh top ten dumb things one one has

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done since coming back to the USA, Please number ten, Susan.

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Speaker 2: Number ten foolishly paid off bar tab to Dave, only

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to find out that Mac and Uncle Al have been

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hitting it every Tuesday since he left for the UK.

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Speaker 6: So he's wrecking it up. I knew it behind my back.

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Speaker 9: We thought you'd want to buy us a future. We

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never thought you were going to come back, so we

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Speaker 7: Yeah, damn it. Number nine, Please number nine.

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Speaker 2: In return for driving him to get his license, one,

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let Agent X borrow his new car. It was last

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seen three days ago crossing the border at Tijuana.

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Speaker 7: They called you.

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Speaker 6: That's a good thing.

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Speaker 7: I didn't need to see good thing I did.

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Speaker 2: Please number eight he contacted Lois one day before the

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Speaker 7: He was still on British time.

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Speaker 6: Right into the wire.

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Speaker 2: Number seven, He asked Switch for hair group advice.

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Speaker 7: Sorry Switch, Sorry, that's why tippity do.

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Speaker 6: That's what you need tippity do. I like that.

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Speaker 7: Next please, Number six.

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Speaker 2: He should have bought his Lily James sex doll slash

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robot before the tariffs kicked in.

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Speaker 6: Another opportunity missed, he said, they tear in his eyes.

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Speaker 7: Okay, this is top ten dumb things. One one is done.

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Just coming back to the United States. Number five.

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Speaker 2: Number five he tried to order spotted dick and the

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waitress slapped him wrong.

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Speaker 6: Bar Wow had a big laugh.

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Speaker 2: They asked, that's my material.

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Speaker 4: Number four is the four number four.

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Speaker 2: He thought club's code name was funny Bone, when we

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all know it's sunny Doodle.

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Speaker 7: Sunny Doodles Drake's Okay, next please Number three.

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Speaker 2: He asked Uncle Al to explain to him how bees

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reproduce and do they get kinky.

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Speaker 6: I always like to like to learn about the birds

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and the beest. Now you got the beast covered and

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you're on your own with the birds that filthy Christians

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number two.

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Speaker 2: Please number two. He returned Rudy's love letter six months.

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Speaker 8: To mate.

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Speaker 6: A love lost and Rudy Rudy and.

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Speaker 2: The number ones. Stupid thing that one one has done

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since coming back to the USA, and it's actually a threesome.

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He thinks ice is a new kind of vodka. He

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thinks Dode is a new kind of car, and he

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thinks he's going to enjoy himself on his upcoming vacation

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to Pantanamo Days.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's get.

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Speaker 7: The shoes, the brains behind out. You've already been to Gitmo, right.

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Speaker 8: Stupus, and you did a great job on a very

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limited gender.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 8: Wow, you know it.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't you know?

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Speaker 6: You have?

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Speaker 8: You really made that shine. But I got to tell you,

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it's been a while since we've had top ten, and

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I really thought things would improve, but unfortunately it's still

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you know, down the toilet with it.

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Speaker 6: Oh really?

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Speaker 8: Okay, all right, I hate to be frank, but I

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have to. Okay, So I'm representing listeners here. Sunny Doodles

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has spoken, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll take that opinion. Under advisement, right.

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Speaker 7: While we, uh, why don't we take a break again another,

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I mean, take a break and welcome back, and who

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knows what fun we'll await us. Okay, all right, take

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Speaker 6: Who's doing about music? Is that Wang Chung or.

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Holy ghost from uh looka good I believe from Brooklyn

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Speaker 6: The rings that to die for. I'm a huge onion

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ring fan. I go to carnivals. I go to carnivals

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and fairs just for the Indian rings that I believe.

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I pay my admission to go right to the end

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ring place. If they're good, if they have the frozen

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kind of throw them in a friar. I want the

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hand doed sick as a brick. I mean, these donuts

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are like and these rings are like donuts.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I love those, speaking of vining rings. Producer engineer,

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beekeeper that's allowed to get these fouls here?

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Speaker 6: Hey Mac? Everybody?

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Speaker 7: Hell well, hey, what can you give us a B report?

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In twenty seconds? Bees were installed Friday.

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Speaker 9: Whether it was terrible, I didn't see them until Monday.

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Speaker 6: But they're flying, so they're around. They just didn't feel

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like you have been doing anything.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, screw the It's just like forty thousand bees and

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two boxes in the yard and you're like, well, I

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know there's bees in there, but I don't see them.

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Speaker 7: They all know each other.

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Speaker 6: No, they don't know. They don't know any each other

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from Adam. No.

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Speaker 7: I mean, will they know in the world?

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Speaker 6: Will they will?

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Speaker 9: As soon as once they get the queen released out

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of the little cage she's in, they'll her pheromone will

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have permeated the hive, and then they'll know that she's

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there queen and they'll accept her and be very happy.

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Speaker 6: And that's kind of like a high school dance. I

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can't remember that whole relationship. The queen over there and

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all the little worker bees are just you know, well.

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Speaker 7: You were wondering if the bees have again, Kinky. You've

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heard the songs the birds and the bees.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, see they're all right now, everybody's talking.

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Speaker 9: She's she's locked up in a little cage that they

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have to chew through a chunk of hard candy, which

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takes them three or four days until they can get

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to her. And by the time they get to her,

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they'll accept her or they'll kill her. But so hopefully

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her pheromone is strong enough that it placates them and

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they say, oh, wow, you're the queen.

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Speaker 6: We're cool.

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Speaker 9: Come on out, come on, let's go down in here.

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When you start laying eggs and moving us forward.

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Speaker 6: Wow. Okay, do you.

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Speaker 4: Guys remember the Outer Limits episode in the old black

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and white version with the bees. The bees are intelligent

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and they get together and then they create a woman

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walk along among us? Remember that one wrong, Johanna Frank

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I think played the It was bizarre.

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Speaker 7: They created a woman. She looked like a woman.

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Speaker 4: I just looked like she looked pretty good actually for

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a lot of beads being a b woman.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 9: Well, actually, Steve, speaking of Twilight Zone, yesterday, I just

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turned the TV on and I happened to hit the

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Terror at twenty thousand feet with William Shat Oh yeah,

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they immediately after. Yeah, and immediately after was to serve Man.

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Great talk about two of them. Yeah, excellent. Uh, let's see,

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so thank you all. He gave us a b update

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also with us did I introduce switch already?

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Speaker 7: Thank you? Uh? Switch? Place his switch lay Steve Wood

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down there south of the Mason Dixon line. And what's

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your background there?

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Speaker 6: That's the uh uh.

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Speaker 4: These are bags of Mothman potato chips, which are becoming

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very popular in this area.

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Speaker 6: I'll bet.

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Speaker 7: And what's the what's the just between that and the

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regular potato chip? Anything good?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 4: The tastically he's kind of like barbecue. But it's their

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their own special recipe.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, and a fancy bag. Yeah, it's a

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collector's edition.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, you send them out to your fans. Is that

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what I heard? Overheard?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 4: A former uh host co host, Yeah, mcmully's Military X

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Files ahead. She saw my image I posted I sent

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you her and she said, I want Monkman potato chips?

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Speaker 6: So is that all?

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Speaker 7: Is that all it takes?

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Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I'll get a little well what else would

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it take?

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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, we'll just slide five or ten.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if if we wanted someone, we would just say, switch,

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we want some just a minute.

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Speaker 4: Let's not let's not push it. Push made the money.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's called the Chips and Dip relationship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kid, the Chips fall where they met something.

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Speaker 7: Thank you switch if you joining us. Also with us

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laughing up the storm is as International Security Chief Willie

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Club Willy Sunny Doodles. There'll be good gangster name of

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the street Sunny Doodles. Ope, he's going okay. Also with

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us is Uh Susan Kay. I have favorite big fan

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down there with North Kilb. Susan.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, thank you so much for me. It's nice

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to see you all.

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Speaker 6: Nice to see you, Susan.

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Speaker 7: And how are the Husses one and two?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. Thank you so much for asking.

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Speaker 7: Okay, did you have that one? Have an exorcism on

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that one? I got the bbis.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have to, So I had to go out

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like al said and tell the demon to leave me

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alone or that they weren't wanted here and kind of

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break the spell. But his eyes are back.

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Speaker 7: To normal mamors, so okay, all right. Kind of stuff works.

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Also with us up there in Wisconsin as a good friend. Brandy. Thanks,

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how are you Brandy?

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Speaker 5: Hello, I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 7: Yes, okay, hey you asked you how you slept?

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Speaker 5: It was a restless night?

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Speaker 7: Really? Why?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 6: But just listen to one of the old chills. But

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you ridn't believe you said it was eighty. We're doing that.

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I know, that's cool. Show prep. Yeah, yeah, eighty in Wisconsins.

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Never get eight eighting.

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Speaker 7: That's high up there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So anyway, we're all here, right, club? Well, this club,

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I thought he's been away in a snit. Now did

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you get upset? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: No, you know, every once in a while, I don't

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know what happens, but you know it's just boom.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: There must be some kind of a gremlin here. Yeah,

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but anyways, I did want to bring up I'm looking

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at the Morthman bags there. What's it marth me and droppings?

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Speaker 7: Yeah no, no no, it says with droppings potato chips,

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some with and some without.

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Speaker 8: It says mark and droppings. Well, anyways, I mean, if

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if you know the droppings are good for you, I

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try digeons.

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Speaker 7: So I try to help you the club. Well, okay,

482
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well now I want some well glove, So why do

483
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we do this? Brandy has a report for us. Correct Brandy,

484
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and we should say that they'll be doing this thing,

485
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you know, for the next who knows when the Holy paranormal.

486
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There's a lot of stories that people take. They look

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at them from a religious angle, let's say, unusual paranormal miraculus,

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that type of stuff, and if you sometimes you take

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the religion out, it's a UFO sighting. But there's a

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lot of things that happened in this kind of religious

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world that are really strange. Exorcisms are perfect example.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look at all the things Moses had to

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do it. It's all you look at it. Look at

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the guy.

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Speaker 7: Gerry, Moses, the catcher, just do the rest anyway, Moses.

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Speaker 6: I love that movie.

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Speaker 7: So so Brandy is going to be joining us, you know,

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every week with people what the holy paranormal? What do

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you think of that name?

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Speaker 5: Any love it?

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Speaker 7: Okay, we got a bumper in the works. So tonight

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we're talking about the stigma, which is something that's always

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incredibly fascinating. So take it away, all right.

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Speaker 5: Well, first I want to say that I used several

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resources for the information here and I want to say

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what they are so that people know they're legit. The

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Catholic Education Resource Center, the King James Bible, the British

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Medical Journal, the Lancet Bible Gateway, a documentary video called

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Stigmata The Wounds of Mystery, and an extremely fascinating book

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called Irreducible Mind by Edward and Emily Williams. Kelly.

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Speaker 6: Wow, that's a good bibliography. I've never heard of that last.

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No one has ever read.

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Speaker 7: Off a bibiliography on this show nine and a half years.

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Speaker 6: But any fact checkers out.

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Speaker 5: There, well, I want people to know this is legit.

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Speaker 4: So okay, I just make my stuff up.

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Speaker 13: Cloth you you're doing Tim Beckley, So okay, all right,

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well okay, So starting out with the term stigmata, it

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comes from the Latin word stigma, which is really from

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the Greek word stigma, which means a brand or a mark,

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and stigmata is the plural of stigma, and stigmata has

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come to be the term used by the Church.

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Speaker 5: The Catholic religion defines stigmata as the spontaneous appearance of

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the wound marks of the crucified Christ that appear on

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a person's body and they include wounds on the backs

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and the palms of the hands, on the tops and

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the soles of the feet, wounds on the side of

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the body. There could be wounds on the head, like

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around the head as if from a crown of thorns.

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There could be lash marks on the back or wounds

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on the shoulders. And in rare cases, blood can come

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from someone's eyes like tears.

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Speaker 6: Did they come from the wound to any of them?

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Speaker 5: Yes, so just I'm sorry, go ahead, No.

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Speaker 7: I was just no, go ahead, I have I'm writing

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down some questions, but this is great.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: So for people that don't know the Christian religion, it

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teaches that Jesus was crucified, which in which he was

540
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hung on a cross to die for blasphemy, and he

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was given a moniker kind of as an insult called

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King of the Jews. Prior to its crucifixion. He whipped

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and then he was made to wear a crown of

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thorns to mock that King of the Jews title that

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he was given. He was then forced to carry the

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cross up the hill where he was either nailed to

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it or tied to it, depending on your belief, and

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he then suffered there for three hours until he died,

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and this happened on Good Friday. And upon his death,

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the Bible says that a Roman soldier pierced his side

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and blood and water immediately came flowing out of him.

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So that's kind of the nutshell of the crucifixion. So

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a person that develops the stigmata is called a stigmatic,

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and a stigmatic could develop a wound in just one place,

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or they could develop the wounds in multiple places, or

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they could develop all of the wounds that Jesus suffered,

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and they could have temporary wounds where they just appear

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once for a short time and never appear again. Or

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they could have the wounds at various intervals, kind of

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like on Holy Days maybe for example. Or they could

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have the wounds permanently. And I have a couple of

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cases of that to mention. Go ahead.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I just get asked. So this is.

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine living with it permanently.

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Speaker 7: The mind of a matter is just off the chants.

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When you think about it. You know that you could

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if you could do this to yourself, what else can

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you do? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's if you're assuming that it is yourself doing it?

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Speaker 7: How else would it would be.

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Speaker 6: Some some other external force. That's uh, but it has

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to very religious people. Yeah, and maybe there's a religious

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higher power that wow, please go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Ryan, Okay, all right. The wounds can appear to be

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just subtle marks. They could appear as blisters, they could

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be abrasions, or they could actually be open bleeding wounds.

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And in some cases bleeding has been observed coming from

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unbroken skin.

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Speaker 7: Yeah really so really yeah, so think about that. How

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can you most of the whatever makes yourself tick into

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doing something like that. I mean, it's a lot of

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deep concentrated loot.

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Speaker 6: Well, the energy has a lot of power, and there's

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a lot of power in other people's bodies and energies

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around you. So maybe there's a gathering as energy from

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some religious entity that's focused on you or wherever the

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victim might be.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, this is go ahead. This is not a

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pleasant thing to have, or is it.

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Speaker 5: Uh, it doesn't sound like it. It sounds like the

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people that have it actually are suffering and in pain.

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And I didn't include any of these examples, but there

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are examples of people who claim to have the stigma up.

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But we can't see it, so they claim they're feeling

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all of the pain in the areas of Christ's wounds,

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but there's no visible signs of any of it.

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Speaker 7: Like phantom pain, phantom pain something. Yeah, so and so

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you you mentioned that in your research. You it was

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a British medical journal. What's the you know, is there

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a medical explanation.

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Speaker 5: For Actually, yeah, I am going to talk about some

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of the considerations of what this could be and I

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can get to that right now.

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Speaker 7: Okay, no, no, no, just go go, you know, build

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the way that you were presenting it. It's cool, are

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you sure? Yeah, sure, that'd be the punchline.

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Speaker 6: Good.

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Speaker 5: Okay. It is interesting to note that the majority of

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recognized stigmatics are female and Catholic, even though a lot

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of the more famous stigmatics in history are men. There

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have been about three hundred documented cases of genuine stigmata

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that are recognized by the Catholic Church, and the majority

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are female, and the Catholic Church has developed multiple criteria

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for determining whether or not the stigmata is genuine. Number one,

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they have to be not random wounds, but they have

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to conform to the wounds of Jesus.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: Number two, they will bleed, especially on days association with

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the Crucifixion, like Holy Feast days or during Lent or

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on Fridays.

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Speaker 7: Or on How does that work? How does it know?

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How does it on accoulend? I mean that is the

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whole process is really weird. Okay, go ahead, please.

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Speaker 5: Well it's I'm as we get into this, I'm wondering

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if it's kind of like maybe amplified by other people knowing,

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by other people thinking about Christ suffering at the same

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time that the smatic is thinking about it.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, collective consciousness.

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Speaker 5: Maybe. Another criteria is that the wounds will bleed clean

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blood rather than infectious blood, and some reports have even

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been documented of the blood smelling like flowers.

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Speaker 7: Wow. Okay, that's okay, I never heard that.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Number four, the wounds will not as a person to

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become weak from blood loss, no matter how much they lose.

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Number five, the wounds will appear suddenly rather than gradually,

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and then if they disappear, they will disappear just as

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suddenly and often leave no scarring.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 7: That's almost uh crazy, not possible? Physical one, you know

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what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 7: I mean, how do you how do you have an

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open wound and then it heals and there's no scar.

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That's the way the body works. Yeah, wow, just speed

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it up. Wow wow.

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Speaker 5: And the last criteria is that the wounds cannot be

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healed by typical medical intervention.

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, that's interesting. Okay. Huh so that it's mostly

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females who us and uh there's so so you know,

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and you know, please go on, but like, are there

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is there some pot of the world that has more

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of this than others? I mean, if there's more in

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Europe and not in America, then it's maybe a cultural thing.

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Speaker 5: As I was doing research, a lot of the cases

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that were given as examples did happen in Europe. But

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I don't know if that's just because that's who happened

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to write about it.

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Speaker 7: But you you have to be a religious person. This

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just doesn't hit someone over the head who's not into religion. Right.

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Speaker 5: The majority of people are Catholic, and I would say

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I didn't come across an example of somebody who had

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no knowledge of the Crucifixion that had the stigmata, So you.

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Speaker 7: Have to know. Okay, all right, glad, please sprint.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So what was the first example of stigmata. There

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is a mention of stigmata in the Bible. In Galatians,

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chapter six, verse seventeen. The apostle Paul is quoted as saying,

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from henceforth, let no man trouble me, for I bear

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in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus. And

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the word that was used for the word marx was stigmata.

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So it has been debated whether or not Paul actually

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exhibited the physical marks of stigmata, which may be possible

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that the verse was literal, but the Christian tradition does

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not teach that Paul actually had the physical markings and

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doesn't give that translation to the passage, so they don't

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recognize him as actually having the stigmata. So the first

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confirmed stigmatic that was recognized by the Church was Saint

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Francis of Assisi. He founded the Franciscan Order. He lived

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from eleven eighty one to twelve twenty six.

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Speaker 7: Love the animals, right, That guy isn't the saints of animals.

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Speaker 5: He was from a wealthy family, but he gave up

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his upper class life to become a monk, and he

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during his life was frail and often very sick. During

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prayer in twelve twenty four, he begged to share in

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the suffering of Jesus in order to know Jesus better.

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And one month later, on the feast Day of the

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Holy Cross, he had a vision of Jesus coming to

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him and displaying the wounds of the crucifixion, and Saint

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Francis claimed that the love and suffering of the Crucifixion

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poured into him. Call it a download, you know, but

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that at that moment he instantly developed the stigmata. He

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had it on his hands and feet. He tried to

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hide the wounds from the other monks, but he couldn't.

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They didn't tell anybody outside of the monastery, and Saint

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Francis lived with the wounds until his death two years later,

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and then the monastery made that public that he had

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had the Stigmatoy.

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Speaker 7: Wow, wow, here's a famous saint to that. Kiny wow.

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I mean you, I can't think of anything other than that.

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You are so into this part of the Catholic religion law,

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and you're so concentrated that you know, you know, Good

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Friday is coming up in three days, you know, two days,

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one day, and boom, and then it appears. I mean,

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how does it happen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the fact that he was begging to share

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in Jesus's suffering.

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Speaker 7: You know who would do that? I mean, frankly, I

709
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:57,679
hate to use the snare drum and this story, but

710
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,599
you know what, what what what's what's what's the point

711
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:01,079
beyond that?

712
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 6: Why would you want to.

713
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:11,119
Speaker 5: Maybe to be more connected to Jesus to understand the

714
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:12,280
sacrifice that he made?

715
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:18,119
Speaker 7: Okay, all right? I thought given the missions a cultural thing. Yeah,

716
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:21,320
it's a culture Go ahead please, Okay.

717
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:26,199
Speaker 5: So, probably the most famous stigmatic is Padre Pio, who

718
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,599
was born in eighteen eighty seven in southern Italy. His

719
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:34,320
parents were peasant farmers. His real name was Francesco Forgione,

720
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:37,920
and by the age of five he knew he wanted

721
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,000
to be a priest, and he also was very sickly.

722
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,880
As a child, he had severe gastro enritis, he had

723
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,679
typhoid fever, he was sent to a monastery for friars

724
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:56,079
of ill health, and as a young adult he suffered

725
00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:02,360
from insomnia, migraines, fainting, intestinal problems and their ailments. He

726
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:09,320
actually had a lot of other events in his life

727
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,679
that we would consider paranormal or supernatural. So I'll probably

728
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:16,400
mention him again on another week. But as far as

729
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,960
the stigmata goes, in nineteen eighteen, he had a vision

730
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,599
during which he felt the piercing wound of Jesus on

731
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,519
his side, and after the vision ended, he actually had

732
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:34,119
a wound on his side. And then one month later,

733
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,760
like Saint Francis, was a month apart, padre Pio developed

734
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,559
the wounds of Christ on his hands and feet, and

735
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,119
it is said that he at times lost a cup

736
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:50,920
of blood per day, but the wounds remained constant and

737
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:56,039
neither healed nor festered, and reportedly he had the scent

738
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,559
of flowers accompanying his wounds.

739
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 7: Wow.

740
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 5: So it turned out that he then became a healer

741
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,519
and people flocked to him to heal their afflictions, and

742
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:12,000
he continued to have the stigmata reportedly until his death

743
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,360
in nineteen sixty eight, so allegedly he had it for

744
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,159
fifty years.

745
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,039
Speaker 7: Wow. Wow, I've heard of that guy. Yeah, he did

746
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,559
a lot of really interesting you know, I keep using

747
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:29,960
that word, but a lot of freaky things. I'm blown

748
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,840
away by this. I mean, you know, I've heard about it,

749
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,440
but the more you think about it, it's like, what

750
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,880
could you do? I keep thinking if you are such

751
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,840
a religious person that you can cause open wounds on

752
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,320
your hand, you're using a part of your brain.

753
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 6: That if the individual is doing it on himself, I

754
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,719
don't know if that's truly the case.

755
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,599
Speaker 7: Well, let's say he is, okay, and what could you

756
00:44:53,679 --> 00:45:00,519
do if you just concentrated on something else as extremely

757
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:03,480
as you know, what could you do? I mean you

758
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,800
can close wounds.

759
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, you should be able to walk through the wall.

760
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 7: Or something, you know, a fly or something, or heal people,

761
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,280
yeah something, Yeah, okay, please.

762
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a silly question.

763
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 4: Mark.

764
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:20,039
Speaker 6: I've read the.

765
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:22,679
Speaker 7: Club.

766
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,079
Speaker 8: I've read that people also suffer from that, that suffer

767
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:30,480
from getting those wounds that are not asking for them.

768
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 7: Really yeah, yeah, just out of the blow.

769
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:38,079
Speaker 8: So it's not just people who were praying for from

770
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:47,199
that have no call, yeah, to get that, But that

771
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,960
compares to the number of people that pray the almost want.

772
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,320
There's also a fact that.

773
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 6: Yeah I like that.

774
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, did Susan have a question?

775
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, Susan, go ahead.

776
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, So it's probably still a question. But so

777
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,599
they bandaged them, right, So are they just bleeding through

778
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:13,480
the bandages at times.

779
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:16,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they in the case of hydri po

780
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,280
I'll bring it up later. But they save the bandages

781
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,519
and people, you know, they give them to people as

782
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,320
as healing relics. I guess, right, So.

783
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,599
Speaker 7: They would a bandage them, but they the wounds wouldn't

784
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,960
go away, right right, they would.

785
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: Just be they don't stop the bleeding. Because I've heard

786
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,760
of this, but not not in this detail. And I

787
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,559
know there was an X Files episode about it, which

788
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:44,280
is pretty cool. But this is awesome. Thank you. I

789
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,920
just didn't know when you said they had them for

790
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,800
a long period of time, I'm like, well, don't they

791
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,800
bandage them.

792
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 7: It'll be tough, like at lunch and dinner. Wow, go ahead, grandy, Okay.

793
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 5: So so another famous stigmatic from the first part of

794
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,599
the twentieth century is named Teresa Neumann. She was from

795
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,599
a veryan farming village and she developed the wounds in

796
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:15,119
her hands, feet and on her side, and her eyes

797
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:22,280
bled tears of blood, and her bleeding would intensify every Friday,

798
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:27,519
I guess. In homage to Good Friday. It is claimed

799
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:32,599
that she survived for years ingesting nothing but communion hosts,

800
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:37,079
which is the communion wafer that you receive. One of

801
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,000
the things about the stigmatics is that a lot of

802
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:44,480
them lose their appetite. So when these people, I don't

803
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,119
know if that was the case. I'm sure it wasn't

804
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:50,519
for Padre Pio being fifty years with the affliction. But

805
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,000
you know, when these people have this for years and

806
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:56,760
years and can't eat, There've been examples that I ran

807
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,199
across where people had feeding tubes because they couldn't eat

808
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,239
because they lost their their appetite. Right, yeah, sure, So

809
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:12,320
this this terres a Noyman. She would enter during during

810
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,519
the Fridays when she when her affliction would intensify, she

811
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:21,000
would enter a kind of trance, and in her trance

812
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,599
she would begin speaking in Aramaic, which she never formally learned,

813
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:30,360
which I believe is the language that Jesus was said

814
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,039
to have spoken.

815
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,199
Speaker 7: You see that the other day, not the other I'm sorry,

816
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,760
But like about a year ago, the pope who has

817
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,519
now died, the pope who just died, met with now

818
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:42,920
who the Israeli guy, and he goes we have a

819
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,360
lot of we have a lot of common. You know,

820
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,320
Jesus lived among now he spoke Hebrew, and the pope

821
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,760
caest Aromatic, which was the language back.

822
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:05,159
Speaker 5: Okay, so pilgrims constantly. After Teresa's stigmata became known, Pilgrim's

823
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:09,000
flocked to her village to witness what they regarded as

824
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:12,840
a miracle, and she continued to have all of her

825
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,000
stigmata for thirty six years until she died in nineteen

826
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:26,000
sixty two. Okay. One other example from the late twentieth

827
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,079
century was a stigmatic from Derbyshire, England, who was a

828
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:34,320
twenty nine year old woman and her name was Jane Hunt.

829
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,239
She claimed that she saw a vision of Jesus on

830
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,519
her pillow, and then the next day, which happened to

831
00:49:41,559 --> 00:49:44,960
be the Feast of Saint James, she reported feeling an

832
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:48,119
unbearable pain in her hands, as if someone was driving

833
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:52,159
nails through them, and then her hands started to bleed,

834
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,519
but there were no punctures that could be seen. They

835
00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:00,280
continued to bleed, and the bleeding intensified on Sundays and

836
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,800
became more extreme on Easter Sunday, and then her feet

837
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,840
developed stigmata, and then she began to feel an intense

838
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,719
pain on her right side and she began to experience

839
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:18,760
visions of the blessed Virgin Mary and she and guests

840
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,840
to her house reported that her house smelled of roses,

841
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,519
even though there were no roses in her house roses.

842
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:34,840
Jane believed that the stigmata was a sign of her

843
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,440
healing powers, and she began to heal people kind of

844
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,199
with a laying on of hands kind of. And the

845
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,800
weird I mean, I guess the other weird aspect of

846
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,840
her stigmata was that two years after she developed it,

847
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:57,679
she had to have a full hysterectomy, and she recovered

848
00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:01,079
from that procedure, but she no longer had the stigmata

849
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:02,159
after that procedure.

850
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: Wow.

851
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:03,519
Speaker 7: Wow.

852
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 5: So there are a bunch of other examples, but those

853
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,480
are just a few that I chose to talk.

854
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,159
Speaker 6: About any clinical evidence, Like any of these people went to.

855
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:25,159
Speaker 5: A doctor, you know, Yeah, the person that I mentioned

856
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:29,519
before with a feeding tube, I did see a doctor,

857
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:35,079
and his doctors were unable to disprove his wounds. Yeah,

858
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,719
of course nobody. The thing is, in any of these reports,

859
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,639
nobody was ever witnessed to the very first moment of

860
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,440
you know, the wound.

861
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 7: Right yeah, yeah, yeah. They never got it on video

862
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,199
of film or anything like that.

863
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,119
Speaker 5: Right when it when it very first happened. No, that's

864
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,039
kind of a question.

865
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,679
Speaker 7: If you were, you know, like on a dating site

866
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,519
you had this problem, how do you go into first due?

867
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:11,039
You go to Christian mingle? Okay, wear gloves and red sneakers.

868
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,159
Speaker 9: What about those there's people in was it the Philippines

869
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,199
that get put on a cross every year? These people

870
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:21,800
are that extreme they get nailed to a cross.

871
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 5: They actually get nailed, yes, and they get.

872
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 6: Put up on the cross.

873
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, the same reason, to suffer the wounds.

874
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:34,639
Speaker 6: You got to be pretty uh pretty? How long do

875
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:36,360
you have to be on that cross before you can

876
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:40,119
consider it an I mean how long does it take

877
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:45,039
for your hands to hear? And it's lunchtime? Right? Wow?

878
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,159
Speaker 7: That's I mean, that is a extreme extreme religious religiosity.

879
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:50,639
Speaker 6: Whatever.

880
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 7: But what I don't understand, and you know, I'm sure

881
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,800
that you know more about this than me, is that

882
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,440
even though I was brought up Catholic, why is what's

883
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,480
this idea that you have to suffer? He went through

884
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:07,039
so much suffering, what do you have to I thought

885
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,599
he did all the sufferings so we didn't have to suffer.

886
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 6: Wasn't you take an easy way out of it? He did?

887
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:16,679
Speaker 9: I think that suffering was for what came before him.

888
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,440
I think what came after him, you're on your own. Well,

889
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,519
you know, I'm not involved in that what happened. I mean,

890
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,760
why do you have to?

891
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:26,199
Speaker 7: I thought he wants us to be happy and to

892
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,760
you know, be happy because we're corrupt, I feel you.

893
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's my understanding that he suffered to save our

894
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:38,880
souls and that he wants us to be christ Like,

895
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,760
and so in doing in being christ Like, we will

896
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,119
naturally also suffer at some point.

897
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 6: Okay, although the suffering wasn't the point. The point was

898
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,760
if you're being like Christ, you're being more more giving,

899
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,480
more friendly, associate with people, help them, and you know,

900
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,639
how about this idea and prosthetize the religion.

901
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,199
Speaker 7: Not to be that guy at the party, but how

902
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:06,679
about this?

903
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,039
Speaker 1: Uh?

904
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:10,039
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, Jesus. I read a book once.

905
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:13,079
It was Jesus without religion or something. It was his

906
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:17,079
life right, and he was just he was a guy

907
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:18,039
who was the first guy.

908
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:19,599
Speaker 6: Really, he was just a guy.

909
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:23,039
Speaker 7: Who said that human life is worth something. You know,

910
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:25,000
before that they used to just a lot of people

911
00:54:25,039 --> 00:54:28,320
like they were rats or something. So he brought that

912
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,280
forward and the whole idea that you know, everyone is equal,

913
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,719
we're almost together, love your neighbor, and all that kind

914
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,679
of stuff, which is all really really good stuff that

915
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,119
everyone should pay attention to.

916
00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 6: You know.

917
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:44,199
Speaker 7: I'd like to prefer thinking him of like that, then

918
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,400
him wanting me to be nailed up on a cross,

919
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:50,840
you know, in the Philippines somewhere. It all depends on

920
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,960
what you believe in, how devout you want to be

921
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:57,039
about this thing, but to have stigmato, how much further

922
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:57,599
can you go?

923
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,039
Speaker 2: You know?

924
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 7: But anyway, Brandy, go ahead? Is that okay?

925
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:08,599
Speaker 5: So in trying to figure out what's going on, some

926
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,719
people believe that it's, you know, faith that's bringing this

927
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,239
to you, that you know, your faith is actually manifesting

928
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:25,239
within you. Others believe that these things are psychosomatically generated,

929
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,039
physiological responses, and of course there are a lot of

930
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:33,199
people that think that it's all a hoax, you know,

931
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,320
no matter who it's happening to. But here's here were

932
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,280
a few interesting points that I found. Prior to the

933
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,440
thirteenth century and the time of Saint Francis, all of

934
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,599
the paintings of Jesus and the Crucifixion depicted Christ alive

935
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,119
and well on the cross, not showing any emotion. He

936
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,920
was just on it, like his eyes open, just on it.

937
00:55:58,039 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 6: Yep.

938
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 5: And the time of Saint Francis, artists began displaying the

939
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:07,599
suffering of Jesus on the cross, and they gave him

940
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:11,960
expressions of agony, and they actually showed bleeding in his

941
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:15,480
hands and feet in their paintings, which they hadn't done before.

942
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:22,960
So the new depiction of Jesus helped kind of bring

943
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:26,800
him to the minds of the general public who during

944
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:33,360
the Middle Ages were suffering so much. So some you know,

945
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,000
researchers and historians have theorized that stigmata is kind of

946
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:41,559
an example of life imitating art, Like once people got

947
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:46,320
the idea that Jesus was bleeding and suffering, then you know,

948
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:51,320
they projected it onto themselves somehow. But there were no

949
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:57,599
cases of stigmata recognized before Saint Francis. And is that

950
00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:01,440
because Christ suffering wasn't reckoned eyes before that time?

951
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 7: And what year was that, roughly Saint Francis eleven hundred

952
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:06,760
or so.

953
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was twelve twenty four that he begged for

954
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:12,840
begged for the suffering and received the stigmata.

955
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 7: Wow, that is that adds another, we had kinda chapped

956
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,119
it to it.

957
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:28,719
Speaker 8: You all the move we would tell okay, thanks Illuminati,

958
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,199
Yeah yeah, go ahead.

959
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 10: Oh right, you saw that movie.

960
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:39,599
Speaker 8: They used to have a whip and they'd whipped themselves.

961
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, self self tetulation. That's true. Yeah, yeah, people do that.

962
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 6: I guess what he's trying to say.

963
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 8: If you if you saw that move, that was a

964
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,559
good example of the Illuminati.

965
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 7: Right and and and.

966
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:02,719
Speaker 6: Right.

967
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 7: And they were religious, I mean supposed that they started

968
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,000
as really kind of religious. Well they didn't. I mean,

969
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:11,440
this is a whole other road to go down. Didn't

970
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,519
the Illuminati start with the Knights template?

971
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,159
Speaker 5: Technically like technically there is no Illuminati, right.

972
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,199
Speaker 7: Like there's no mafia. Yeah, yeah, but they were. There

973
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:29,760
were definitely these people, these families who have lasted for

974
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,199
over the centuries, and yeah, they just you know, wealthy

975
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:36,960
beyond all means. You don't know exactly who they are

976
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,599
there the uh this one that they always like, the

977
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:42,639
Vanderbilts is supposed to be in and you know all

978
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:45,320
that kind of stuff. But basically it's it's like a

979
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,920
gathering of rich people. But supposedly it came from when

980
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,320
they purged the Knights template well was showing the Knights temples.

981
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,119
Sometimes the Knights template started off as bums and that

982
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:59,360
what they would do is they would escort you to

983
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,840
the holes, right.

984
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 5: They were an elite, elite squad of like fighting monks.

985
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:13,519
Speaker 7: Like the first Special Forces was basically that. And they

986
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:16,000
and over the years from they went from bums where

987
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:17,840
they would just go along with you if you fed

988
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:23,280
them to these like incredible knights of they live spot

989
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,599
and lies. They just trained like crazy. They would give

990
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:29,000
up their lives for you know, Christ at any moment.

991
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,840
But they became so powerful that they actually interacted with

992
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,599
the governments in the politics of like France and Spain

993
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:39,679
and Germany and stuff like that. And they were the

994
00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:42,559
first people who did stuff like for instance, you would

995
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,239
you want to go to the Holy Lands. This is

996
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:49,480
like you just vacation in the Middle Ages. So and

997
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:51,679
you have, you know, one hundred pounds of gold. You

998
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:53,440
don't want to bring it on the way because you

999
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,639
know the chances are you going to get mugged or whatever.

1000
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,360
So you would leave one hundred pounds of gold someplace

1001
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,599
in France, and when you got to the Holy Land,

1002
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:05,039
you'd have one hundred pounds of gold lest their commission

1003
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,000
waiting for you. And they were the first ones who

1004
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:10,400
kind of had that like loans and stuff like that.

1005
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:13,440
You know, they came up with that stuff like Wells Fargo. Yeah,

1006
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,400
like Wells Fargo r exactly. And then and they were

1007
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,119
they they brought both a lot of education and stuff

1008
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:23,599
like that, you know, but they were this it just

1009
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:26,320
felt like one hundred years. They like ruled things in Europe.

1010
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:31,440
They were like this tough bunch of incredibly trained knights

1011
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,000
who had no fear at all. And and and they

1012
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,519
kind of ran things, you know which and then finally,

1013
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,800
I guess the King of Spain of France on Friday

1014
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,880
the thirteenth. That's why Friday the thirteenth is a bad uh,

1015
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,280
you know, has a bad connotation to it. He finally

1016
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,920
like had a lot of them arrested. Many of them

1017
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,960
were arrested and put to death and so on. Their

1018
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,920
fall was very It took you know, like no time

1019
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,760
at all, but about one hundred of them got away

1020
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,760
and they figured that they had squandered away like a

1021
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,440
this is in the Middle Ages. So Brandon, wow, this

1022
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:09,320
is crazy. So what were your conclusions when you did

1023
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,079
all this research.

1024
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 5: Well, I think that I'm kind of on the psychosomatic bandwagon,

1025
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:26,400
I guess if you will. And here's why. Because a

1026
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,480
lot of what I read referred to this British medical journal,

1027
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:37,239
and that journal had some cases in it where people

1028
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:42,239
who were in a very heightened state of emotion. Some

1029
01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:47,239
of them were psychiatric patients, some were in a religious

1030
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:54,400
ecstasy like these supposedly these stigmatics, but that they could

1031
01:01:54,519 --> 01:02:03,800
manifest physical markings on themselves. One really, I guess overused example,

1032
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,960
and it appeared in just about everything I read, was

1033
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,880
a psychiatric patient who had had some trauma previously in

1034
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,159
his life where he was bound by his wrists and

1035
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:20,320
ankles and then you know, abused, and at times while

1036
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,320
he was institutionalized in this psychiatric facility, he would have

1037
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:31,280
these dreams, these vivid dreams of remembering this binding and abuse,

1038
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,800
and when he woke from his dreams, he would actually

1039
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:39,599
have rope marks on his ankles and his wrists, even

1040
01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:40,960
though of course there were none there.

1041
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:41,639
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1042
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: They also talked about hypnotists, and actually the video that

1043
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,719
I watched showed an example where a hypnotist put a

1044
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:57,360
coin on someone's leg and the person was hypnotized, and

1045
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,400
the hypnotists suggested that the coin was burning hot even

1046
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,920
though it wasn't. And then he removed the coin, and

1047
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,400
the person started to exhibit ruber or reddening of the skin,

1048
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:16,239
and it eventually blistered where he had placed that coin.

1049
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,159
That was just a regular room temperature coin, but the

1050
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:22,199
person believed that it was red hot, and so their

1051
01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:29,639
body reacted based on their beliefs essentially, Right, Yeah, I

1052
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:33,760
think that's more. You know, maybe what's it is, like

1053
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,159
you said, a mind over matter thing maybe because another

1054
01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:40,800
thing just that I want to throw in here really quickly,

1055
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:47,559
is that the stigmatics that developed the wounds developed them

1056
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:51,599
as they believe them to have happened. So if one

1057
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:54,480
person believes that Christ was nailed through his hands and

1058
01:03:54,519 --> 01:03:58,639
then develops stigmata, it's in their hands. But if someone

1059
01:03:58,679 --> 01:04:01,480
else believes that Christ was nail through his wrists, they're

1060
01:04:01,519 --> 01:04:05,159
going to develop stigma in their wrists. Or if they

1061
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:07,960
believe he was lands on his right side, their side

1062
01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:10,320
wound is going to be on the right or the left.

1063
01:04:10,679 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 6: You see it depicted both ways, right, because.

1064
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 5: The Bible doesn't doesn't say for sure which side or

1065
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,440
how the how the Crucifixion actually happened, right.

1066
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,719
Speaker 7: So isn't that kind of proof in a way that

1067
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,400
you know this is something that's coming right from your mind,

1068
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,920
because because the mocks are going to show up where

1069
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,880
you think the mocks should be, right.

1070
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 5: Right, Yes, you could say that you could if you were,

1071
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:38,119
you know, super devout, you could probably say that God

1072
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,639
is placing them where you think they were.

1073
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:46,239
Speaker 7: Yeah. Wow, Well, I just think it's one of those

1074
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,119
things where I know they say that you only use

1075
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:50,320
tempercent of your brain, but that's not really true. You

1076
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,280
only use tem percent of your brain at a time. Okay,

1077
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,800
there's definitely pass for our brain that have not been

1078
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,440
explored that you that there are ways that you can

1079
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:01,679
you know, just like the suppose that you can train

1080
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,360
as a remote viewer and if you stick to it,

1081
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,280
you'll be a remote viewer because you've just trained your

1082
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:09,920
you know, your mind to do this stuff. Right. But

1083
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:12,280
I just wanted to say this, and I'm gonna throw

1084
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,440
it to to Wannie only because he I know he's

1085
01:05:15,519 --> 01:05:20,800
a fan of hers. So Jonnie Mitchell, Joni Mitchell has

1086
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,320
a disease. You want to google it. It has a

1087
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,559
really weirdy the mushroom disease. Yes, okay, So Joni Mitchell,

1088
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:33,239
who's a very famous singer, folksinger, folks singer, you know

1089
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:35,880
what I mean. I mean like huge, hugely. You know,

1090
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:41,800
people about Donna, like she's a queen or something. She

1091
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:48,800
has this disease where she where little mushrooms grow on

1092
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:54,599
her on her body and uh, and and they have

1093
01:05:54,639 --> 01:05:56,639
pictures of she has it, and they have pictures of

1094
01:05:56,679 --> 01:06:01,519
people who who have it. And I mean, this is

1095
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:03,840
something physically coming out of their body. The fact that

1096
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,159
they look like, you know, screwed up little mushrooms, those

1097
01:06:06,159 --> 01:06:10,840
are really creepy. But uh, it happens. And and you know,

1098
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:16,760
the medical explanation for it is that it's it's it's

1099
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,679
what we're talking about. You know that there's something in you,

1100
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:22,880
uh you know, who knows what it is with Joni,

1101
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,360
but there's something in you that that that is pausing

1102
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,880
your brain to do something that is, you know, really

1103
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:30,639
out there. Man.

1104
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:32,599
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if your brain is even involved in

1105
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:36,239
the process. I think it bypasses the maybe the part

1106
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,039
of the brain that says, is this a good idea

1107
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:40,559
to have mushrooms pop out of my skin? I don't know.

1108
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:43,400
It's not really a good fashion statement.

1109
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,079
Speaker 7: But mushrooms. Someone told me about this and and I

1110
01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:49,800
guess I googled it or probably back then it was

1111
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,280
probably you know Yahoo man, you know Yahoo look on

1112
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,480
that butler or whatever the hell that guy used.

1113
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,039
Speaker 6: To be there, ask Jeeves. And I read it.

1114
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 7: And I said, I wish I didn't read that because

1115
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:05,000
it was just so weird. And you know, when it

1116
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:07,400
happens to her, she goes into a funk, of course,

1117
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,920
because you got a little mushrooms going on you and

1118
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,880
just a weird thing. And she's she's a big pop star.

1119
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:19,039
She's like the sixties Madonna. You know, it's a weird

1120
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:23,239
thing to have a voice. Yeah, it's all right. I

1121
01:07:23,239 --> 01:07:28,800
guess I never really I never really understood her. I mean,

1122
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,039
I can guess that people would like her music, but

1123
01:07:31,079 --> 01:07:33,480
this whole, this trail of broken hats that she left

1124
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:36,800
behind her. Yeah, like all of Crosby still's a nash.

1125
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,039
She you know, dumped them all at different times and

1126
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,079
said all these romances that would end badly. She's kind

1127
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:46,360
of like the Taylor Swift of back then, because they'd

1128
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,199
n't badly, and then she'd write a song about you

1129
01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:53,079
I'm looking at one one like he knows do you

1130
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:53,679
you were a big thing.

1131
01:07:53,679 --> 01:07:56,199
Speaker 6: You're saying Crossy Stillson. I thought Crosby Stillson Nash was

1132
01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:59,159
more of a the Judy Collins.

1133
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 7: Yeah they yeah, yeah, Steven Sielden, Judy Collins, lue Eyes.

1134
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,719
But at one point everyone in Risby, Stills, Nash and

1135
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,079
Young had a thing.

1136
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 6: With in the early sixties, a lot of folks singers

1137
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,000
that I liked, like Tom Rush, who's a local guy.

1138
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:19,520
Ye covered her songs. A lot of folks does cover

1139
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:20,640
her songs all over the place.

1140
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 7: I could see that some of her songs were on

1141
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,319
the Monkeys. She wrote songs for the money. She wrote

1142
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:31,119
another another pleasant Valley Sunday. I think you wrote there

1143
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,439
one of those, because they got a lot of those

1144
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,079
songs on the real building, which is we should do

1145
01:08:36,119 --> 01:08:38,439
in the music show soon, which was this a place

1146
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,760
where they hired people to write songs. These people write

1147
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,720
like ten songs a day, and that's where Carol Kane

1148
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:52,319
and Geffen and all those people. Yeah, Neil Diamond, Neil

1149
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:54,399
Diamond was the writer there. Neil said, doc I was

1150
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,960
the right of there. And these are just people who

1151
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,640
finally said you write these great songs. Can you be

1152
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,079
before wamas? And so if you see Neil Diamond, he's

1153
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:05,319
not really a performer, you know what I mean, He's not.

1154
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,479
He's he's kind of like a shy withdrawing away. But

1155
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,359
these huge hits, huge hits. And he's also retired. And

1156
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,279
same with Carol King. You know, she was primarily a

1157
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:17,720
songwriter and then all of a sudden she puts on

1158
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,960
her own album and huge takes off. So anyway, so

1159
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:24,640
Brandy to.

1160
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,520
Speaker 6: Put a.

1161
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,199
Speaker 7: Put a hot over the eye of this is.

1162
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 6: Brandy. That was a well researched, very nice.

1163
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 2: He's just called more Gellin's disease. I don't know if

1164
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:46,039
that's he actually says here. So it's not recognized by

1165
01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:49,199
the Mayo clinic, right, it's characterized by a belief that

1166
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:55,760
parasites are fibers are emerging from your skin. Oh my gosh,

1167
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,039
fibers in a variety of colors protrude out of a skin,

1168
01:09:59,239 --> 01:10:04,760
like mushrooms after a rainstorm. They cannot be forensically identified

1169
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,560
as animal, vegetable, or mineral.

1170
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 4: Never pepperoni.

1171
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:15,119
Speaker 9: Right, Oh well, magic mushrooms. Pull the mushrooms.

1172
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and I remember they they even though they

1173
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,159
have pictures of this stuff. They have pictures of my

1174
01:10:21,319 --> 01:10:23,079
I don't know if they have pictures of them actually

1175
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:26,720
happening or not, but there's certainly pictures. If you go

1176
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:31,079
and look, you'll you'll never unsee it. But this actually happens,

1177
01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:33,479
you know, And maybe it is. But all those parasites

1178
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,880
have to get together and let's grow a mushroom. I mean,

1179
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,359
just very strange. It's just a very strange mind of

1180
01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:41,720
a mate thinks the fungus among.

1181
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 8: Us, you guys, I remember as a kid that my

1182
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,640
mother was very adamant about not eating too many mushrooms.

1183
01:10:50,199 --> 01:10:54,600
She said, because they'll burst out in your skin someday. Really, yeah,

1184
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,039
so I'm not surprised. Yeah, so she They probably will

1185
01:10:58,039 --> 01:11:02,399
find out that she's a big mushroom, and that's what happens. Eventually,

1186
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,520
it just gets so much in your system. Yeah, yeah,

1187
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,640
your system gets overwhelmed. So I can appreciate that.

1188
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,279
Speaker 4: Oh, wouldn't happen to me. But by the way, do

1189
01:11:12,279 --> 01:11:14,840
you guys remember a maid for TV movie check this

1190
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:21,520
out from nineteen seventy five. Yeah, Aathleen Quinlan, and she

1191
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:26,279
plays a woman that experiences the state model really yeah,

1192
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:28,119
and the bad guys are trying to abduct her.

1193
01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:31,239
Speaker 7: Really, what year is that switchy.

1194
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy five, made for TV movie?

1195
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, Quinn Martin production. Yeah, Quinn Martin was that

1196
01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:40,159
Quinn Martin production.

1197
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 4: I don't know that it was Quinn Martin.

1198
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:46,520
Speaker 7: What did Quinn Martin look like? Quinn Mattin Back in

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01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,039
the seventies, Quinn Martin had at one point he must

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01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:51,640
have had at least five or six TV shows on TV,

1201
01:11:52,279 --> 01:11:52,800
and he.

1202
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 4: Had like horn room glasses, you know, and kind of.

1203
01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:03,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, there we go. Yeah, I mean his his

1204
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,640
You knew it was a Quinn Martin production right away

1205
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,640
because well, at first it would say Quinn Montain production,

1206
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,159
but it would be in four different chapters, you know,

1207
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:13,439
where the commercial breaks were back then, and each one

1208
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,359
would like lead to the next one. That was really

1209
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:18,680
almost like reading a book in a way, and there

1210
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,600
were they were detective shows and stuff. You know, it's

1211
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,479
it's basically yeah.

1212
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:26,359
Speaker 4: He didn't didn't want to fade out so much and

1213
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,000
then you know they have the continued to the next segment.

1214
01:12:29,359 --> 01:12:33,039
He wanted like separate segments, like chapters that were sort

1215
01:12:33,039 --> 01:12:35,720
of self contained in a way, but all part of

1216
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,039
the whole.

1217
01:12:36,279 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 5: Right, what's an example, like what did what show the.

1218
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,239
Speaker 4: Future do streets?

1219
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 7: Streets?

1220
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you're probably too young.

1221
01:12:51,159 --> 01:12:51,359
Speaker 1: Dan.

1222
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:52,239
Speaker 6: Uh was.

1223
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:56,159
Speaker 7: Dan?

1224
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 4: Which are like twelve more examples.

1225
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 7: Dan. It was an American name, Dan August. Yeah, yeah,

1226
01:13:07,359 --> 01:13:09,279
yeah he was. I mean you never saw him, never

1227
01:13:09,319 --> 01:13:11,479
saw him, you know, interviewed, but man, he was. He

1228
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,760
was applying a lot of network content there for a

1229
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,319
long time and then just fell out of favor, basically

1230
01:13:17,399 --> 01:13:21,600
fell out of I mean new stuff. New stuff came

1231
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,159
in when I went to when I first started in

1232
01:13:25,279 --> 01:13:25,880
film school.

1233
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 6: Oh boy, you went to film school.

1234
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,560
Speaker 7: Yes, I did. And what what they what we studied

1235
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:37,439
was there was a guy named film school. It was

1236
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:42,039
eight millimeter then if you get a sixteen film, there

1237
01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:43,920
was some adults there. Okay, Now.

1238
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:47,119
Speaker 6: I worked with film once.

1239
01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:51,079
Speaker 7: They yeah, yeah, it's awful. It was back then. Man.

1240
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,039
You'd have to like sit there for hours, like gluing

1241
01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:57,920
the you know, the leader to the A B role.

1242
01:13:58,039 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 6: The trailers on and uh, how to do that? I

1243
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,800
was I was trained by the Union how to do that.

1244
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,159
But in the Navy, I was trained how to do splices. Yeah, well,

1245
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:09,520
what you had to do, which they did Newport, Rhode Island. Wait,

1246
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,560
this is really killing time. But what you have to

1247
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,399
do in film, I mean, you don't have to do anymore,

1248
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,680
but like if you're going from seeing A to scene

1249
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,159
B and you wanted to dissolve into something, you can't

1250
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:22,359
have it dissolve into the next scene. It has to

1251
01:14:22,359 --> 01:14:25,439
dissolve into black, and then the beginning of the next

1252
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,319
scene has to be black for it to you know,

1253
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,560
and bring it up right right, So you have to

1254
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,079
figure out what every third shot, every second shot is okay,

1255
01:14:34,119 --> 01:14:38,000
and who's in charge of that. The continuity person is

1256
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,960
in charge of maintaining the continuity on the set.

1257
01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:43,359
Speaker 7: The editor Yeah, oh yeah, yeah that Yeah, they just

1258
01:14:43,359 --> 01:14:45,399
give him like a bunch of back Then they just

1259
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,840
give you a whole big bunch of rolls and and uh,

1260
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,920
you know, go through them. You know as the you

1261
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,479
sit there with the real editor of the movie and

1262
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,840
he says, okay, next scene, this, next, seeing that, and

1263
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,319
you hope that it's as close to the script as possible.

1264
01:14:58,359 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 6: But you know that usually I gotta kick old movies

1265
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,319
where the continuity wasn't that important in a particular.

1266
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:05,359
Speaker 7: They're just keep going yeah, yeah, yeah.

1267
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,159
Speaker 6: Somempany's talking to another Yeah, say a woman that's in

1268
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:10,960
the in the foreground, just see the back of her

1269
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,079
head and then you see that shot again and uh, right,

1270
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:15,960
there's a spider crawling up the back of her head.

1271
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 7: It's it's they have the different closes right the wrong place,

1272
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:24,920
or a lot of saying. What the biggest thing was

1273
01:15:25,079 --> 01:15:27,479
I've seen that is that you would see there would

1274
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,439
be someone who like goes out of the door to

1275
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,319
your left, and then the next scene is them coming

1276
01:15:33,359 --> 01:15:35,399
out of the door tea are right, you know what

1277
01:15:35,399 --> 01:15:41,079
I mean? Where you're just natural way of looking at things. Uh,

1278
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,079
but we.

1279
01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:44,279
Speaker 6: Expect you up, you know, we expect their eyes to

1280
01:15:44,319 --> 01:15:48,000
see everything seamlessly, because that's how film works. In the

1281
01:15:48,039 --> 01:15:51,760
film is twenty five frames per second, and the persistency

1282
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,800
in their eyes twenty four four twenty four.

1283
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,239
Speaker 7: Yet, right, the persistence of vision.

1284
01:15:56,359 --> 01:15:59,279
Speaker 9: And the other thing with movies is the scenes aren't

1285
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:05,000
generally sequentially. Yeah you might end a scene today but

1286
01:16:05,119 --> 01:16:07,239
not go back to that scene for a week. Right,

1287
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,960
So you got people take still pictures to compare what

1288
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,560
what everything looked like so they can put everything back right.

1289
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, people look.

1290
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 9: The same wear the same clothes, make sure their hairs

1291
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,119
the same, link their wounds, or get.

1292
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,399
Speaker 6: A gun in their hands. It's in the right hands,

1293
01:16:24,399 --> 01:16:25,000
the right gun.

1294
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1295
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:29,079
Speaker 6: When Lily James was in Downtown Abbey, I used to

1296
01:16:29,319 --> 01:16:31,399
go to that season. I think she started she started

1297
01:16:31,399 --> 01:16:35,840
her character in season three and I was such a fan.

1298
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,920
I would just freeze frame on any of her scenes

1299
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,720
and just click through it, maybe once every ten minutes

1300
01:16:44,319 --> 01:16:45,880
changed the frame.

1301
01:16:48,319 --> 01:16:49,319
Speaker 4: You were stalking her.

1302
01:16:49,399 --> 01:16:52,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, like, look at how the dress

1303
01:16:52,319 --> 01:16:55,920
is hanging on her shoulders, and then look how it

1304
01:16:56,039 --> 01:16:58,479
is now, and go back and forth.

1305
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, yeah, and it wasn't good. It is that

1306
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:03,880
what you're saying. Somebody needs to fix her dress. Yeah,

1307
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:04,439
that's funny.

1308
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,359
Speaker 6: I need to be there to fix her dress.

1309
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 7: So they usually but they usually keep an eye on

1310
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,960
those things too, you know, which is kind of funny.

1311
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 6: I did as a union stage hand. I was asked

1312
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:20,840
to help out whatever the production manager for the group

1313
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,279
was asking for. And this was a collection of ballet

1314
01:17:24,359 --> 01:17:28,760
dancers from Pulshoy and other things, and they were on

1315
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,680
tour there and Lowell and they're everywhere. So I did this.

1316
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,439
I did the show and then it was in New

1317
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,239
Hampshire and then our local New Hampshire didn't have any

1318
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:39,840
women in it.

1319
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 7: Okay, So going down the road.

1320
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,319
Speaker 6: The action manager came came to our shop Steward and said,

1321
01:17:46,359 --> 01:17:49,039
can we have somebody they can work in wardrobe?

1322
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 7: Okay?

1323
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 6: And I was thinking the same thing as as sick

1324
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,720
as our shop Steward is that, like do you need women?

1325
01:17:59,159 --> 01:18:02,800
You know, no, this is theater. You don't need a

1326
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,279
woman to be in the dressing room with women. It's

1327
01:18:06,319 --> 01:18:07,600
just it's like a who cares?

1328
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:08,319
Speaker 7: Who cares?

1329
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 6: I guess who got picked out to do that? Yes? Wow, okay,

1330
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,560
hang On. I was a little early. It was like, Warren,

1331
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,239
do you want to do that? I said, what could

1332
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:21,439
I possibly do in the in wardrobe.

1333
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 7: With a bunch of male ballet dances?

1334
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 6: The woman that was asking for the help was saying,

1335
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,560
I could is maybe so on a button or fix

1336
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:32,840
somebody's button up somebody? You know what I was doing that.

1337
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,800
They have these ground out, ground up rubber balls that

1338
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,439
you probably played stickball with. Hang On, go ahead and

1339
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,279
cut it in half and that kind of a ball,

1340
01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:45,359
so that sort of a pinkish yew smooth top rubber ball.

1341
01:18:45,399 --> 01:18:50,680
They ground them up and it was like a uh.

1342
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,560
The dancers would put their their ballet slippers in it

1343
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,319
on their feet and there was a trace of this

1344
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:01,479
ground up stuff. So it was like an adhesive, right yeah, yeah, yeah,

1345
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,119
created some stability.

1346
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:04,319
Speaker 7: And is that a lot just.

1347
01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 9: Like the pool queue you chalk the you know.

1348
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 6: They put their feet in it that they they have

1349
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,920
their slippers on, the put their feet in it, kind

1350
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:17,000
of rub it around. In these trades, the occasionally had

1351
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,520
to load those up. It was hard work.

1352
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,520
Speaker 7: I got to tell you that. I was in film

1353
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,199
school one one in film school, yes, I was before

1354
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,479
I figured out that that the ballet dancers have that

1355
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,439
special shoe on that they tiptoe on. Yeah, I thought

1356
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,760
they just tip. I never got ball. Does anyone here

1357
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,239
get ballet?

1358
01:19:39,279 --> 01:19:41,159
Speaker 6: Mac? I kind of get it as a as an

1359
01:19:41,279 --> 01:19:43,560
art form, as a as a dance form, and I

1360
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,119
kind of get it. I mean, a lot of classical

1361
01:19:46,199 --> 01:19:49,960
music was written for the ballet. Yeah, but don't their

1362
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,880
feet look really nasty.

1363
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:58,319
Speaker 9: Because they're formed from their standing on their toes.

1364
01:19:58,359 --> 01:20:02,039
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of physical damage to ballet dancers.

1365
01:20:02,079 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 7: And yeah, I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I just don't

1366
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,600
I don't get opera either opera. Someone trying to explain

1367
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,640
opera to me, and I said, it ain't over until

1368
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,760
the Fat Ladies. Well that and that's the weird thing

1369
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,800
is that they have characters in those operas who they're

1370
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,960
playing a man, but it's a woman. They're playing a woman,

1371
01:20:19,039 --> 01:20:21,600
but it's a man. You know, you talk about how

1372
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,800
this can you know, not continuity. It's just very strange,

1373
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,359
especially in Shakespeare's operas.

1374
01:20:27,399 --> 01:20:31,159
Speaker 6: And here I am Italian, I could still couldn't get Pailacci.

1375
01:20:31,399 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, is that the sad clown?

1376
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:36,359
Speaker 6: Anyway?

1377
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 9: It's like Monty Python, you know, it's men playing women

1378
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:40,479
playing men.

1379
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,159
Speaker 6: Yeah. Up again, I didn't read the whole thing. What

1380
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:44,359
did it say? What did you say, Susan, I didn't

1381
01:20:44,359 --> 01:20:44,960
read the whole thing.

1382
01:20:45,279 --> 01:20:50,159
Speaker 7: Moomb Oh she's shaking her head. Must been really good.

1383
01:20:51,119 --> 01:20:53,319
So why don't we do this? I think it's time

1384
01:20:53,399 --> 01:20:54,520
to take a break.

1385
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,239
Speaker 6: So I work shows from bon Jovi to Ballet.

1386
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,279
Speaker 7: There you go, okay, I did so.

1387
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 6: That the stallions to the lippens on a stallion said

1388
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,680
the laudatorium. Did you have to clean up after him?

1389
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:15,239
We did? Oh yeah, because they weren't always dry. There

1390
01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:17,000
was a lot of that. All hands were doing that.

1391
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,399
Speaker 7: Wow, what a night this has been technical wise, So

1392
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,800
why don't we do this? Why don't we take a

1393
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,560
break now and we group and we'll be right back

1394
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,399
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big box of double plied Kleenex, a big box of

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industrial sized wipes, a rubber squeegee, and some kind of

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01:22:48,399 --> 01:22:52,359
lube approved by the United States Surgeon General enough to

1420
01:22:52,399 --> 01:22:55,000
get you through those tough times when the apocalypse is

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happening right outside your door. That's the wan Wan Survival

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one zero zero zero at my yahoo dot com. It's

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spelled just like the pasta Macaroni one thousand at my

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Please no lut photographs at deltoys or puppets.

1428
01:23:22,119 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 6: No puppets, kids, no photographs. Right, what's up? What's that

1429
01:23:28,119 --> 01:23:28,880
kind of lube?

1430
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:34,520
Speaker 7: I love it anyway, Welcome back to Mcaloney's What.

1431
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,079
Speaker 6: The lube for? That's who my wife was asking, well,

1432
01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:41,079
that's another show there, my friend. Wow, I don't know.

1433
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 7: Al do you want to know?

1434
01:23:42,359 --> 01:23:45,399
Speaker 6: I'm not going there, not on a bet. She looks

1435
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:48,840
at me like like it's my fault. It's like, did

1436
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,039
you write this? That's that's all. I don't know, Mac,

1437
01:23:52,079 --> 01:23:53,920
And that's all Mackensusan's something.

1438
01:23:54,199 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 7: I don't think she would ask you what the squeeze

1439
01:23:56,039 --> 01:23:58,119
is for? Not the lo Really the lube is kind

1440
01:23:58,119 --> 01:24:04,119
of self explanatory. Anyway. Welcome back with the back to

1441
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,000
the Military Explas show Here in the Distant Thunder Radio

1442
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:11,800
and their work recording live coming to live from the

1443
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:16,119
Stopped Galley Restaurant, fifty five Water Street, New we Born, Massachusetts,

1444
01:24:16,359 --> 01:24:21,600
eight seafood Restaurant. Quite a show tonight, and we get

1445
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:26,720
one last segment to go. Let me introduce the co conspirra.

1446
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,079
It is girls. You've heard them one one is here.

1447
01:24:30,119 --> 01:24:32,399
Speaker 6: Hello girls, Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show. It's

1448
01:24:32,399 --> 01:24:33,560
been a fun show so far.

1449
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:34,039
Speaker 7: Fun show.

1450
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 6: They're all fun shows, Holly, Some are more funner than.

1451
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 7: Others, funner than others. Okay. Also here is on the

1452
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:46,640
Valley Kitties Pal steering the ship. If I'm steering we're

1453
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:51,039
in trouble through rough waters. Thank you all for being here.

1454
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:53,159
Oh hey, you know what what else would I be

1455
01:24:53,159 --> 01:24:54,680
doing tonight? That's true?

1456
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:55,239
Speaker 6: Okay?

1457
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 7: Involved would you be so? Who knows? Also with us

1458
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,920
is switch play Steve Wood down there in West Virginie.

1459
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 4: Great to be here, and our middle name is fun

1460
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:09,920
here military expelled.

1461
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,039
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, okay, well it's easy to spell.

1462
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 4: That's right.

1463
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 7: Do you have anything exciting for breakfast? Or should we

1464
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:19,000
just pass?

1465
01:25:19,079 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 4: I had? I went to tutors. I had two pancakes

1466
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,800
and and about five pounds for bacon, coffee.

1467
01:25:25,399 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 7: And water coffee in water. All right, nice, okay, before

1468
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:35,119
those tariffs kick in on bacon. Good thinking. But also

1469
01:25:35,399 --> 01:25:40,439
let me see. Also with us is our international security chief,

1470
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,079
Senior International Security Chief, Willie Club WILLI.

1471
01:25:46,319 --> 01:25:49,319
Speaker 8: So also great to be here and happy to hear

1472
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,399
that switch. He still gets to go to Hooters. We

1473
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,079
really missed him up here. They went out of business.

1474
01:25:55,119 --> 01:25:59,279
As you know. I'm glad you've got someday. I'm going

1475
01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:02,119
to drive down to get a view see how.

1476
01:26:02,039 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 7: It is as well. We'll take a road trip all

1477
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:05,079
of us.

1478
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:08,079
Speaker 4: All right, you don't want to be without Hooters, because

1479
01:26:08,079 --> 01:26:09,359
then it would be a bust.

1480
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 7: Oh wow, he had that loaded.

1481
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 6: Up Hooters bit was around for a long time. Actually,

1482
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,399
I don't I never understood how zoning and other things

1483
01:26:20,399 --> 01:26:25,079
within a specific town would allow the concept, let alone

1484
01:26:25,159 --> 01:26:28,319
the let alone the execution of it of Hooters.

1485
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 7: They're just big breasted waitresses business mode. It's it's just

1486
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,800
I mean, I'm a fan of it. It's just that

1487
01:26:38,079 --> 01:26:39,359
great French fries.

1488
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 6: That it's just so anti or I don't know his

1489
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,520
anti anything. I'm just sticking a hole here.

1490
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 7: But here we go, wait for our drinks in there here,

1491
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:50,279
thank you.

1492
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 6: It just seems weird.

1493
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,159
Speaker 7: Well, now we have to go to Susan Kaye now

1494
01:26:56,159 --> 01:26:59,880
because she's breaking the rules here doing this.

1495
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:02,319
Speaker 2: So oh look he's performing for you.

1496
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 7: Oh that's a cat, that's not a dog.

1497
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:08,239
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1498
01:27:09,279 --> 01:27:12,119
Speaker 7: Well then it's okay. You can be forgiven. Doesn't the

1499
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:14,560
cat doesn't the dog chasing around the cats? What's he doing?

1500
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,439
What's the matter with them?

1501
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,159
Speaker 2: He just wants to see you?

1502
01:27:19,319 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 6: Oh really? Yeah?

1503
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,039
Speaker 9: So outnumbered by cats, he doesn't dare go after thinks

1504
01:27:24,079 --> 01:27:24,680
he's a cat.

1505
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: Of course, he's actually probably smaller than most of them,

1506
01:27:28,079 --> 01:27:32,079
so he's smart. But thank you for having me. I

1507
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:34,600
love seeing all your handsome and beautiful faces.

1508
01:27:35,159 --> 01:27:38,319
Speaker 7: Same here. That's why we're here. We love you, Sue,

1509
01:27:39,359 --> 01:27:41,239
and we love your dog. We love your dog too.

1510
01:27:41,359 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 6: We do.

1511
01:27:43,399 --> 01:27:47,279
Speaker 7: Also with us is uh brandy eggs, Brandy eggs, So

1512
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:49,239
we have to say we love you too, just so

1513
01:27:50,079 --> 01:27:51,920
it's nice and even. Is that okay?

1514
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,319
Speaker 5: You're so diplomatic, thank you.

1515
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 7: Never really been called that before, but I'll take it.

1516
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,800
So Wisconsin, Wisconsin, they wear those hats. Is that a

1517
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:04,720
Wisconsin hat?

1518
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:05,079
Speaker 6: You have one?

1519
01:28:05,119 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 7: As very stylish?

1520
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:11,239
Speaker 5: Thank you. I guess some people do really.

1521
01:28:11,319 --> 01:28:12,199
Speaker 6: Okay, all right?

1522
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 7: Those glasses, so those glasses look like librarian glasses? Do

1523
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,840
you always wear those glasses? Are my dreaming?

1524
01:28:21,399 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 5: I only wear them when I'm having to read things. Oh,

1525
01:28:25,279 --> 01:28:26,279
they're just for reading.

1526
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,159
Speaker 7: Okay, all right? I think it works though, don't you

1527
01:28:29,239 --> 01:28:29,680
they want to?

1528
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 6: It does socially read? The head looks good on you.

1529
01:28:36,079 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 4: The hell out of Amazon specials, I'll tell you.

1530
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,399
Speaker 6: So, if you had any Kringle lately, what's your favorite Kringle?

1531
01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:44,159
Speaker 2: No?

1532
01:28:44,359 --> 01:28:49,399
Speaker 7: I do like I do like the almond and they're

1533
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,760
kind of pastry that only people in Wisconsin have.

1534
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:52,279
Speaker 6: Is that all?

1535
01:28:52,359 --> 01:28:54,159
Speaker 7: It's like a coffee ring right.

1536
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a Swedish pastry.

1537
01:28:57,159 --> 01:29:02,560
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, okay, not a sweetish jokes. Yeah, but we

1538
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:03,039
don't have.

1539
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 6: Time Sweetish German something like that. And it's all you

1540
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,520
can only you can't eat just one little piece you

1541
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:17,520
gotta have. It's just something addictive about it, probably the sugar. Anyway,

1542
01:29:18,399 --> 01:29:20,920
about addicting. I think I'm going to order some right now,

1543
01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:25,119
but astave for a cringinals see what happens. I think

1544
01:29:25,399 --> 01:29:26,800
they ship and frozen to you.

1545
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 7: I believe, can't you really? Okay, not like a fruitcake, right,

1546
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:39,479
just keep sending it around to everybody anyway, Speaking of fruitcakes, switchy, wait,

1547
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,039
I'm sorry.

1548
01:29:41,319 --> 01:29:42,239
Speaker 4: Just hate fruitcake.

1549
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 7: Like no one likes fruitcake, man, no one does you

1550
01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:46,560
do you know?

1551
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,520
Speaker 6: I like fruit and I like cake. Why can't I

1552
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:49,880
like fruitcake? I don't know.

1553
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,159
Speaker 2: They put nuts in fruitcake makes it worse?

1554
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, you ain't kidding, right, I was soda bread is

1555
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,319
to me that's the I could eat that for the

1556
01:29:59,359 --> 01:30:02,600
rest of my life. Okay, you know a little jelly,

1557
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:08,880
little butter anyway, cookies, oh this is no, don't get

1558
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:15,239
out liquorice laying again? So switchy, yes, you have a

1559
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,439
report on how UFO hostilities correct.

1560
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 4: Yes, as I mentioned earlier, this comes from one of

1561
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,039
Timothy Green Beckley's books. Of course, Tim mister UFO is

1562
01:30:26,039 --> 01:30:28,960
no longer with us, but this particular we do these

1563
01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:33,880
giant books. You know. This was called UFO Hostilities, The

1564
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,119
Evil Alien Agenda. I mean, it's just full of all

1565
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:40,920
kinds of good stuff. Well, the chapter I'm focusing on

1566
01:30:41,319 --> 01:30:43,359
is about a guy that I didn't really know about,

1567
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:48,640
George D. Fawcett. He as a teenager, Tim Beckley, now,

1568
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,000
he used to listen to Long John Nebll on w

1569
01:30:52,239 --> 01:30:55,000
O R. Long John Neville of course was the fore

1570
01:30:55,079 --> 01:30:58,079
runner to Art Bell, and he would have something it

1571
01:30:58,159 --> 01:31:00,319
was called the show was called the Party Line. He

1572
01:31:00,359 --> 01:31:02,640
went from about I think eleven or midnight all the

1573
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,560
way to dawn, and so poor Tim Beckley he wouldn't

1574
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,000
get any sleep. You know, he'd be walking around like

1575
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,600
a zombie in school the next day. But he was hooked.

1576
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,800
I mean he would get the contactes and all kinds

1577
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,239
of UFO type people. It was just you know, some

1578
01:31:18,319 --> 01:31:22,479
of the you can get some of those on YouTube. Now,

1579
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:28,319
this George Fawcett, he was a full time YMCA director

1580
01:31:28,359 --> 01:31:32,319
in eastern Pennsylvania for forty years, but in all his

1581
01:31:32,359 --> 01:31:35,920
free time he was fascinated by the UFO situation. He

1582
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,640
had all kinds of files and photographs, and Beckley had

1583
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,000
been impressed by his knowledge. He had read some of

1584
01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:45,359
his articles. He looked about eighty miles away. Tim was

1585
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,960
determined to get out there sometime and meet him. And

1586
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:55,399
this guy was really the guy that inspired him to

1587
01:31:55,479 --> 01:32:01,399
go on and create his Tim Beckley's publishing empire. And

1588
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:06,039
I have dozens of books of Tim's and as I

1589
01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:09,079
mentioned earlier, I was even on his show Exploring the

1590
01:32:09,079 --> 01:32:13,359
Bazaar a few times with Tim Schwartz his co host.

1591
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:20,800
Now so he did finally meet him. He was born

1592
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:25,439
in nineteen twenty nine in North Carolina. He acted in

1593
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:29,000
an editorial capacity for many years before he went on well.

1594
01:32:29,039 --> 01:32:32,640
He went to the US Army in the Panama Canal zone.

1595
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,720
He was a field investigator from Uphon worked with doctor J.

1596
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,920
Allen Heinek on several important WEFO cases. So this guy

1597
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,920
really had the credentials. And in his home he had

1598
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,119
Beckley saw all these scrap book after scrap book filled

1599
01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:51,199
with articles and so forth. He started collecting UFO reports

1600
01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:54,439
from the time of the Foo Fighters from World War Two,

1601
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,840
these strange lights that the Allies and the bad guys

1602
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:00,119
that saw.

1603
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 7: All right then yep right and uh now he.

1604
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 4: Uh he wrote an article due to his research for

1605
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:12,319
Ray Palmer's Flying Saucers from Other Worlds magazine, and that

1606
01:33:12,359 --> 01:33:15,920
it was called flying Saucers are Hostile and this kind

1607
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,680
of you know, in this time period in the in

1608
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,600
the fifties, kind of turned things on its head because

1609
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:24,840
people where you had the contact ese like Georgia Damski,

1610
01:33:25,319 --> 01:33:29,239
uh the Theoreham and Lucy van tassel Menger and and

1611
01:33:29,279 --> 01:33:32,039
they were all talking about the beautiful Space Brothers and

1612
01:33:32,079 --> 01:33:36,000
their contact with them even produced some pretty cheesy photographs

1613
01:33:36,199 --> 01:33:39,880
at times. Okay, so but he but sawser really felt

1614
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:45,279
that there was some uh he. Finally he Beckley republishes

1615
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:48,920
an article he wrote around that time called Flying Saucers

1616
01:33:49,039 --> 01:33:52,600
are Serious Business, which I think maybe Frank Edwards was

1617
01:33:53,199 --> 01:33:56,840
inspired by that title to write his book Flying Saucers

1618
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:01,880
Our Serious Business some years afterwards. But in this article

1619
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:05,000
he starts out with kind of the background history of

1620
01:34:05,119 --> 01:34:08,760
UFOs and then he gives ninety examples of what he

1621
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,039
thinks are hostile and tent with some of these things.

1622
01:34:12,119 --> 01:34:13,760
But now we're just going to touch on a few

1623
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:18,640
of them. Nineteen forty four Army pilot Charles Lane reported

1624
01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:23,279
he's flying over the Himalayas his plane, motors stopped and

1625
01:34:23,399 --> 01:34:26,840
instruments froze when he was approached by a UFO, and

1626
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,840
of course he didn't. They came back on when the

1627
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:37,039
UFO left. August twenty eighth, nineteen forty five, a passenger,

1628
01:34:37,319 --> 01:34:40,520
Leonard Stringfield, who went on to write many books about

1629
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:41,720
UFO crashes.

1630
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,319
Speaker 2: He was.

1631
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 4: Had a situation where he said his C forty six

1632
01:34:48,399 --> 01:34:52,720
encountered engine trouble when he saw a three luminous orbs

1633
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:57,079
of light near Iwo Jima. Now, a lot of these incidents,

1634
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:01,319
I don't think we can say hostel and tenet. Maybe

1635
01:35:01,359 --> 01:35:05,239
maybe just the close proximity of some of these things. Now,

1636
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:10,000
Fawcett also includes December fifth, nineteen forty five, five TBM

1637
01:35:10,079 --> 01:35:15,000
Avenger Bombers Flight nineteen disappear under strange circumstances. Now there's

1638
01:35:15,039 --> 01:35:18,119
no there wasn't really any. I mean a lot of

1639
01:35:18,119 --> 01:35:21,800
people think that it was UFO related. There's a guy

1640
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,560
named Stephen Ford that I actually saw speak years ago

1641
01:35:26,119 --> 01:35:30,479
with my UFO club. We were at a some kind

1642
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:34,600
of a gathering that one of the guys his father

1643
01:35:35,119 --> 01:35:38,000
was an engineer, and they had this dinner and they

1644
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,079
had this Stephen Ford as a speaker, and that's the

1645
01:35:40,119 --> 01:35:43,680
first time I ever heard about Flight nineteen. So, but

1646
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,560
then year a few years later, on one of the

1647
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,119
UFO specials in the seventies, Ford was on and he

1648
01:35:49,239 --> 01:35:52,479
claimed that they had picked up a transmission at that

1649
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:58,680
time during the Flight nineteen disappearance that said they look

1650
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,520
like they're from outer space. Now, I don't know if

1651
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,279
there's any to that or not.

1652
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,119
Speaker 7: Real quick switching. So flight flight nineteen, you've heard about

1653
01:36:07,119 --> 01:36:10,039
it before. It's like the beginning of the Muona trying

1654
01:36:10,119 --> 01:36:12,560
on one way right at the end of the war.

1655
01:36:13,079 --> 01:36:15,880
These five airplanes take off from I think Fort Lauderdale

1656
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,359
down in Florida, and they're going to go on a

1657
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:23,960
training mission and very very routine and they suddenly just

1658
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,800
didn't know where they were and they're trying to contact

1659
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,640
the base. Other people that are not on the base

1660
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,520
were able to contact them. They're trying to they're trying

1661
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,720
to like kind of bring them back, but they're saying like,

1662
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:40,279
you know, the waves don't look good, the sky looks different.

1663
01:36:40,399 --> 01:36:44,000
They have no idea where they were. The last transmission

1664
01:36:44,039 --> 01:36:46,319
that they had was with some kind of radio guy

1665
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,720
way up the coast, and he thought, sure he had

1666
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:52,039
them in them, Mom, they gone. Never found them. Been

1667
01:36:52,119 --> 01:36:54,239
a lot of movies and stuff about them, and they've

1668
01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:58,720
been in movies those encounters for one of them. But

1669
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,399
of all the things, I could believe people down there

1670
01:37:01,399 --> 01:37:03,560
were looking for these planes. They've been looking from for

1671
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,560
forty years. They found another crash stuff, but they never

1672
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,920
found these five planes. They don't know what happened. Okay,

1673
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:11,720
go ahead, well twitchy please, Okay.

1674
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,520
Speaker 4: Now this next one is also doesn't really fit under

1675
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:19,880
the hostile category if it's more under the aftermath of

1676
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:23,760
a hoax. June twenty first, nineteen forty seven, kaded Frank

1677
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:28,439
Brown and Captain William Davidson. Their plane crashed at what

1678
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,680
they had. This is connected to the Shaver mystery. This

1679
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,479
is connected to the Moray Island incident. This is where

1680
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:38,720
they picked up some slag that supposedly fell from five

1681
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:47,279
donut shaped flying sauceress over Tuget Sound and Fred Christman

1682
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:50,880
was behind this. It was a total bs, and these

1683
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,560
guys died for nothing. It really had nothing to do

1684
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:57,159
with UFOs or aliens. It had to do with the

1685
01:37:57,199 --> 01:38:00,000
aftermath of a nasty hope.

1686
01:38:00,199 --> 01:38:03,239
Speaker 7: These are the two pilots of the B twenty five

1687
01:38:03,319 --> 01:38:04,560
you're talking about, right.

1688
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 4: Right exactly over Tacoma, Washington, July twenty third, nineteen forty seven.

1689
01:38:12,119 --> 01:38:17,359
Pilot John H. Janssen. He's his motor shut down plane

1690
01:38:17,399 --> 01:38:21,279
suspended in air after a close pass of a UFO

1691
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:27,119
over Morristown, New Jersey. He reported sort of an electrical

1692
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:32,720
like prickly sensation all over his body, which doesn't sound

1693
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,039
too bad if he wasn't up in the point that nevermind.

1694
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:42,399
But January seventh, nineteen forty eight, Captain Mantel F fifty one,

1695
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,520
another one that probably isn't anything to do with ufol

1696
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,359
as being hostile. But that was the one where he

1697
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,640
sees this object and he goes and he chases it.

1698
01:38:53,359 --> 01:38:56,359
The skeptics said he was chasing a skyhook balloon. I

1699
01:38:56,399 --> 01:38:59,239
don't know about that. And on the other side you

1700
01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:02,000
get some of the kind he's saying, Oh, yes, he

1701
01:39:02,119 --> 01:39:05,600
was chasing one of our rot like Pernusian scout ships. Yeah,

1702
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:10,880
but Unfortunately, he got too close to our electromagnetic web

1703
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,520
or force field or whatever and it affected his plane.

1704
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,840
And we feel badly about that. Too bad. The poresaps

1705
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,239
didn't have a transporter like Star Trek and they could

1706
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:20,720
have saved you.

1707
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:21,199
Speaker 6: Really.

1708
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:27,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, his crash real quick. His crash changed things a

1709
01:39:27,039 --> 01:39:31,119
lot because it was it was highly publicized. Happened in

1710
01:39:31,159 --> 01:39:34,359
the early fifties. They were near Fort Knox, I remember

1711
01:39:34,359 --> 01:39:38,159
that much. And he's leading a flight of these f

1712
01:39:38,159 --> 01:39:41,680
fifty one's, which P fifty one Mustangs they changed the designation.

1713
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:44,319
He sees something in the sky. Now, this guy is

1714
01:39:44,399 --> 01:39:48,720
a veteran pilot. Okay, he's a veteran pilot. And once

1715
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,119
again we always say veteran pilot. Pilot saw the first

1716
01:39:52,119 --> 01:39:54,479
people who know what UFOs are because they're so used

1717
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:58,039
to seeing everything else in the sky, the moon, the Venus,

1718
01:39:59,239 --> 01:40:02,119
and he started to chasing this and they they're telling

1719
01:40:02,199 --> 01:40:06,560
him don't. He went above the ceiling of the P

1720
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:10,319
fifty one. He went above his oxygen you know where

1721
01:40:10,359 --> 01:40:14,920
the austin just kind of doesn't work anymore. And he said,

1722
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,279
I'm closing.

1723
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:16,319
Speaker 6: In on it.

1724
01:40:16,359 --> 01:40:19,520
Speaker 7: I mean, this is a guy who you know, wouldn't

1725
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,760
be fooled by anything. And then they lose contact with them.

1726
01:40:23,279 --> 01:40:25,800
They find his plane crashed like later the next day

1727
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,560
or whatever. I hate to say it, but he's headless.

1728
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:31,880
And when that made it into the news, all of

1729
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,720
a sudden, this whole idea that the aliens are nice

1730
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,680
people like the Swedish twins there those guys, It's like,

1731
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,159
oh my god, what's happening here? And it kind of

1732
01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:44,960
changed the way people looked at UFOs and who might

1733
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,680
be in UFOs. So anyway, go ahead.

1734
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 4: But some of the articles claimed that he was hit

1735
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,439
by a death ray. I mean, you know, you go

1736
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:58,479
journalism even back then. The July nineteen fifty two Atlanta,

1737
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:03,439
Georgia pilot Reagan, while flying his piper coat, collided with

1738
01:41:04,039 --> 01:41:10,000
a bright oval shaped UFO and the pilot died of

1739
01:41:10,199 --> 01:41:17,319
a degeneration of his brain tissue due to extreme atomic radiation.

1740
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,920
They said the authorities had no explanation.

1741
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:20,600
Speaker 6: Wow.

1742
01:41:21,039 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 4: And then at July twenty sixth, nineteen fifty two, Air

1743
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:28,800
Force issued a shoot him down order. Not their finest moment.

1744
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:32,680
I don't think, okay, a good reason for aliens to

1745
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,119
be hostile. I believe right.

1746
01:41:34,159 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 7: The order was if you this is Truman telling if

1747
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:44,000
was navy pilots, try contacting them first, and if not,

1748
01:41:44,199 --> 01:41:47,720
open fire on them. That literally was the order. Okay,

1749
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:52,199
And you think I contact them how sign language? I mean,

1750
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:55,079
we haven't been able to do this, says these things

1751
01:41:55,079 --> 01:41:58,159
showed up and there was actually a shoot to you know,

1752
01:41:58,279 --> 01:42:01,439
shoot these things down. And when people saying, you know

1753
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,960
these things are from you know, places we don't know,

1754
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,720
much more advanced than less, you really want to shoot

1755
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,439
at them anyway?

1756
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 4: They just wanted to hear we mean no harm to

1757
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:17,840
your planet before they blasted them away. August nineteenth, nineteen

1758
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,880
fifty two. This is kind of a famous case. Scout

1759
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:27,199
Master Sunny Divagers. He was a scout master. He's driving

1760
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:31,000
along with his boy scout. Supposedly he sees this craft

1761
01:42:31,079 --> 01:42:33,439
over the in the woods. He goes into the woods

1762
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,000
and this thing comes down, shoots fire out or something

1763
01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:40,720
and burns his arms. I remember Donald Menzil. Now, Donald

1764
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:45,359
Menzil was a precursor to Philip Class, an arch skeptic

1765
01:42:46,039 --> 01:42:50,439
and usually wrong. He takes, he thinks, and I think

1766
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,159
Menzil might be right on this one. I think it

1767
01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:55,600
seems like this guy might have been talking about UFOs

1768
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,920
ahead of time, and he kind of set the kids

1769
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,079
up and he goes in and he burns himself. Anyway,

1770
01:43:01,079 --> 01:43:05,159
it just sounded like like a hoax. But who knows.

1771
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 6: But now that's.

1772
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 4: The pardon me. The same night that the child at

1773
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:20,920
that same night, mister missus Nitowski, Wow, I changed that name,

1774
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,680
and child were gassed and felt uh the electric like

1775
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:34,680
shocks after their car stall. Now this is okay, I

1776
01:43:35,279 --> 01:43:38,000
skipped a part. This is September thirteenth, nineteen fifty two,

1777
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,039
the famous flat Woods case. Yes, and in fact, I

1778
01:43:42,159 --> 01:43:45,720
was just out in that area last weekend. Now, the

1779
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,920
Gray Barker. We celebrated Gray Barker's one hundredth birthday at

1780
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,520
the flat Woods Monster Museum. Wow, and we watched the

1781
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:57,319
great documentary called Shades of Gray, and even some of

1782
01:43:57,399 --> 01:43:59,760
us went out to the area where they were. Gray

1783
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:06,000
bar is buried. But anyway, that was this bizarre creature

1784
01:44:06,359 --> 01:44:09,279
or whatever, that robot we don't know, with kind of

1785
01:44:09,359 --> 01:44:12,039
orange eyes and it had a horrible smell. And a

1786
01:44:12,079 --> 01:44:19,199
bunch of kids saw this meteor or bright light pass

1787
01:44:19,239 --> 01:44:22,239
over the school. They go up the hill and they're

1788
01:44:22,279 --> 01:44:25,760
there with an adult and they see this bizarre, totally

1789
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:31,600
bizarre contraption, whatever the heck it is, and they take off.

1790
01:44:32,039 --> 01:44:34,680
But that same night as this mister and missus Tatowski

1791
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:40,960
and child they were guessed and it felt an electric

1792
01:44:41,119 --> 01:44:44,960
like shot after their car stall near a violet colored

1793
01:44:45,359 --> 01:44:48,439
landed UFO. So this happened the same night. So another

1794
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:54,640
bizarre incident No. Number twenty third, nineteen fifty three. Now

1795
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,279
this is one that may be an actual hostile intent.

1796
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:04,600
kN Ross Air Force Base, Michigan. Pilot Felix montcla He

1797
01:45:06,079 --> 01:45:10,119
and radar officer R. R. Wilson. They're in their F

1798
01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:13,479
eighty nine plane and it was they could they were

1799
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,680
tracking them on radar ye when it merged with another light,

1800
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:20,439
another a UFO seventy miles off came an off point

1801
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:23,399
great legs. No trace was ever falled.

1802
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 7: Yeah right right. That's uh. That's a really well documented

1803
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,680
case where they actually this F eighty nine was an

1804
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:35,399
interceptor back of the fifties, big huge thing, and they

1805
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:39,079
thought that there was some kind of entry coming into

1806
01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:44,560
the United States from Canada, and so they sent this

1807
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,399
airplane out to check it out. And they can see

1808
01:45:48,399 --> 01:45:52,920
them on radar, and then the two radar blips merge

1809
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:57,039
and then only one is left and off it goes.

1810
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:01,199
Never found any wreckage, never found any thing, you know,

1811
01:46:02,159 --> 01:46:04,600
I had no idea what happened to these the plane

1812
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,279
and the pilots. It's a very odd they were all live.

1813
01:46:08,319 --> 01:46:09,760
But that's a very odd kind.

1814
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 6: Of And there's so many of those odd ones that

1815
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,479
you have to ask yourself, this can't be just you know,

1816
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:17,199
one time happenstance.

1817
01:46:17,279 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 7: It's yeah, something you know, you just hear the pattern here,

1818
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,079
you're hearing about this one, but there's been others.

1819
01:46:22,199 --> 01:46:28,159
Speaker 9: Yeah, I real quick, I heard Steve, I heard something yesterday.

1820
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:31,079
I happen to be watching something and they were talking

1821
01:46:31,079 --> 01:46:35,600
about that flight nineteen right, and they this guy was

1822
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,319
on the show saying when he was nine years old,

1823
01:46:39,399 --> 01:46:43,800
his dad, who was a judge, took him out into

1824
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:48,399
the marsh if you were in there, Pensacola area and

1825
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:53,680
showed him a wrecked airplane who was in pieces. So

1826
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:58,800
the the dad called the Navy and said, look, I

1827
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:00,800
think I found one of your planes.

1828
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:01,159
Speaker 6: Yep.

1829
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 9: So they checked it over and the Navy came out

1830
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:11,359
and retrieved it. There were two bodies in it. And

1831
01:47:11,359 --> 01:47:14,079
this was in the nineteen sixties, so it had been

1832
01:47:14,079 --> 01:47:16,600
there a long time. So they checked it over and

1833
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,239
the Navy took it out of there, but one of

1834
01:47:19,279 --> 01:47:20,920
the guys told the judge it was one of the

1835
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:25,000
planes from flight nineteen. So the judge was like, wow,

1836
01:47:25,039 --> 01:47:28,000
it's kind of interesting. So they took the plane away

1837
01:47:28,039 --> 01:47:32,399
and they cleaned up the area, and when the judge

1838
01:47:32,399 --> 01:47:34,319
went to the Navy again and said, all right, we

1839
01:47:34,319 --> 01:47:37,520
got any more information, they claimed they know nothing about

1840
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,319
what he was talking about. No such plane, there's no report,

1841
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:45,319
they don't know nothing. So they pretty much made the

1842
01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:48,159
judge feel like an idiot. And these guys that were

1843
01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:54,000
interviewing the sun it was now an adult. He brought

1844
01:47:54,039 --> 01:47:56,760
them out to the area where he found it, and

1845
01:47:57,039 --> 01:48:01,079
the interviewer said, well, it's a shame you didn't, you know,

1846
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,239
pick up a piece of it or something that, you know,

1847
01:48:04,279 --> 01:48:06,880
you could prove your story, and he goes, I did,

1848
01:48:07,319 --> 01:48:09,399
and I gave it to a buddy of mine. So

1849
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:11,159
they called up the buddy and he showed up on

1850
01:48:11,239 --> 01:48:15,239
the scene with a pickup truck and what was a

1851
01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:19,920
piece of that plane. It was a fifty caliber machine

1852
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:25,199
gun with a mount from an avenger. And they got

1853
01:48:25,239 --> 01:48:27,600
to Syria number off the gun, but they can't. The

1854
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:32,720
Navy lost the records of what guns were on those ships, right,

1855
01:48:33,279 --> 01:48:36,960
So it's saying one of the guys could have said

1856
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,840
to the guy in charge, you you know, you're taking

1857
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,239
us on the wrong way. We got to go this way,

1858
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,840
and he might have actually got back over land before

1859
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:46,880
he crashed and ran out of fuel.

1860
01:48:47,359 --> 01:48:50,159
Speaker 7: Can I just melt that ice cream in that for

1861
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,840
here for a second. The thing is is that this

1862
01:48:53,239 --> 01:48:56,119
that air station down there with all these planes are

1863
01:48:56,159 --> 01:49:01,720
taking off from was a training squadron. Okay, they were

1864
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,479
training brand new pilots, and these brand new pilots used

1865
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,359
to crash these planes all the time, so they would

1866
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,960
is they've recovered the type of plane like in the

1867
01:49:11,359 --> 01:49:14,239
off off the coast of what Lott of Dale ands on,

1868
01:49:14,359 --> 01:49:16,960
but they can account for them because it's you know,

1869
01:49:17,119 --> 01:49:20,000
the plane that this rookie.

1870
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,039
Speaker 9: Right, And they said they found one in the water,

1871
01:49:22,159 --> 01:49:24,279
which was the wrong one, right, but they said this

1872
01:49:24,319 --> 01:49:28,079
one the Navy has no record of any plane crashing.

1873
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:28,239
Speaker 6: In that area.

1874
01:49:28,319 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's so really weird.

1875
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,159
Speaker 9: And then the Navy is of course back pedaling and

1876
01:49:32,279 --> 01:49:34,399
said we didn't find an airplane there well, you know

1877
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,079
what you're talking about, right. We didn't come and pick

1878
01:49:37,159 --> 01:49:40,840
up the remains of the two pilots or anything else.

1879
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,520
You know, they're just the sort of whitewashing.

1880
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:47,640
Speaker 7: The whole thing, wasn't us Wow wow, switchy go ahead yes.

1881
01:49:48,039 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 4: January March nineteen fifty four over the Tyraanrian Sea near

1882
01:49:54,199 --> 01:49:58,680
Malta and in the Mediterranean area for our af planes

1883
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:03,000
had disappeared. The wreckage, if one, was found, and the

1884
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,640
only connection he makes is he says there were large

1885
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:11,000
numbers of flying saucer shaped objects and cigar shaped UFOs

1886
01:50:11,159 --> 01:50:15,640
in the area, which doesn't necessarily mean that there's a connection. Now,

1887
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:19,159
he gives many many other cases with the close proximity

1888
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:24,279
of mysterious lights or craft caused mechanical problems or negative

1889
01:50:24,279 --> 01:50:28,680
physical effects on the witnesses, sometimes radiation burns if they

1890
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:33,199
approach to landed UFO. Fawcett produced this article. He said,

1891
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:39,680
I hope that these ninety incidents will, you know, alert

1892
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:43,760
you to the dangers and hostile UFOs and will help

1893
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:48,760
others in preparing a defense against such objects. Now, I

1894
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:52,439
think you know most of these are not a direct

1895
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:56,479
hostile intent. In fact, Beckley did not believe that a

1896
01:50:56,479 --> 01:51:00,399
lot of these were in case for overt hostility except

1897
01:51:00,399 --> 01:51:01,560
for that kin Ross incident.

1898
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:02,039
Speaker 6: Perhaps.

1899
01:51:03,039 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 4: Fawcett died peaceably on Sunday, January twentieth, twenty thirteen, the

1900
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:10,840
last time Beckley saw him. He had stayed in contact

1901
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,119
with him, and in two thousand and seven, Beckley was

1902
01:51:14,159 --> 01:51:18,239
headed to a mew Fond symposium in Denver and he

1903
01:51:18,359 --> 01:51:21,920
was had a stopover and Saint Louis. He stopped into

1904
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:25,239
a restaurant and there was Fawcett sitting at a table

1905
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,359
and he thought, well, heck, are you going to the

1906
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,119
Are you going to speak at this Bufon symposium as well?

1907
01:51:30,119 --> 01:51:33,279
He said, no, I'm headed to Roswell to give them

1908
01:51:33,319 --> 01:51:36,119
my all my files so that they can keep them

1909
01:51:36,159 --> 01:51:39,199
and they'll they'll be preserved. And so that was the

1910
01:51:39,279 --> 01:51:42,239
last time he saw him. It was again it was

1911
01:51:42,319 --> 01:51:46,960
George Fawcett that inspired Jim Beckley and to become what

1912
01:51:47,039 --> 01:51:52,439
he was, a massive publisher and you know, really very

1913
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,359
entertaining guy. And he just he ran the gambit man.

1914
01:51:56,399 --> 01:52:00,840
He had in his magazine. He had his analog They

1915
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,600
had like purple ray plates or something like that that

1916
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:09,520
would cause healing. But we were very legitimate authors and researchers,

1917
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:13,199
and so he had he had anything you needed, you

1918
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:15,720
you could get from him. He had all kinds of

1919
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:21,239
uh uh you know, uh CDs audio from uh uh

1920
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,560
you know Richard Shaver and Ray Palmer on Long John

1921
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:28,319
Nevill's show. Uh, and he would just uh. He was

1922
01:52:28,399 --> 01:52:29,239
just a great guy.

1923
01:52:29,399 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 6: And uh, I agree, you know, I uh it.

1924
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,279
Speaker 4: Was very cool to uh you know him even through

1925
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,520
even through cyberspace.

1926
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,560
Speaker 7: Like you said, Uh, I was on his show twice.

1927
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:41,640
I think those two guys, and it's an experience, man,

1928
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,520
I mean you you have to go with the flow

1929
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,439
with those guys. They were funny, they knew what each

1930
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,319
other was going to say. They went, you know, they

1931
01:52:50,319 --> 01:52:54,439
were really good, very entertaining late at night, but you

1932
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:55,640
know it's worth staying up.

1933
01:52:56,159 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 4: Well, he would he'd always start out with some bitch

1934
01:53:00,079 --> 01:53:02,119
know yes. And when I was on the first time

1935
01:53:02,119 --> 01:53:04,319
I was on, I was talking about the Mark Man

1936
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,399
Big Surprise, and it was on with Nick Redfern. He

1937
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,399
was talking about the Men in Black. And there was

1938
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,479
a young lady named Claudia Cunningham, known as the M

1939
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,880
I B Lady because supposedly she encountered men in black

1940
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:20,600
and the cemetery that had Charles Fort in it. And

1941
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:24,319
in the beginning he did a bit with uh, you know, Bandit,

1942
01:53:24,399 --> 01:53:27,359
the dog that was supposed to disappeared, So it's just

1943
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,720
kind of a silly bit with that. And anyway, he

1944
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:34,840
was always always had an opening of some slapstick or

1945
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:36,239
stick as in this show.

1946
01:53:36,319 --> 01:53:39,399
Speaker 7: The real production is going on there. But anyway, talking

1947
01:53:39,399 --> 01:53:42,319
about production values, thank you Switch, I'm gonna we're gonna

1948
01:53:42,319 --> 01:53:45,840
clap for you. I'll do the joke now, but my

1949
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:54,600
palm's hurt. So uh, there's the uh, the magic image

1950
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:57,479
of the train crashing. That means it's time to bring

1951
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,000
the ship into the shore.

1952
01:54:00,119 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 6: Ready to do that?

1953
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:06,520
Speaker 7: Boys, Okay, we have to say good night Brandy. I'm sorry,

1954
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,600
we have to say good night to you first, Brandy.

1955
01:54:10,319 --> 01:54:10,920
She frozen.

1956
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,560
Speaker 5: It's been great being here and I love you guys

1957
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:14,279
too well.

1958
01:54:14,319 --> 01:54:17,279
Speaker 7: We love you lo all around. Thank you for joining us.

1959
01:54:17,319 --> 01:54:21,680
Great report. We'll talk to you next week. Okay, Love

1960
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:26,760
the hat, Love the hat, Love the hat. Susan Kay

1961
01:54:27,159 --> 01:54:34,920
sitting there in the dock with her unidentifiable animal, which one, Yeah,

1962
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:35,680
that's the question.

1963
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,079
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me with a great show, Brandy,

1964
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:42,279
I love that about the stigmata and switch. I always

1965
01:54:42,279 --> 01:54:44,560
love your stories. I just joy. I love the show tonight.

1966
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,560
Thank you so much for having me. I can't wait.

1967
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:47,960
I miss you already.

1968
01:54:48,359 --> 01:54:52,279
Speaker 7: Thank you for joining us. You appreciate it. Thanks, apologize

1969
01:54:52,319 --> 01:54:56,359
to Rudy, love around that crude joke and the top

1970
01:54:56,439 --> 01:55:02,760
ten things, and we'll see you very soon. Let's see wow. Okay, club,

1971
01:55:03,239 --> 01:55:04,840
thank you club for joining us.

1972
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:10,039
Speaker 8: Club another great night and look forward to it. And

1973
01:55:10,079 --> 01:55:15,239
I see you get in about another three days.

1974
01:55:13,159 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 7: Okay, thank you club for joining us. And I did

1975
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:24,319
find out that Drakes do make a you know, a

1976
01:55:24,359 --> 01:55:27,039
product called sunny Doodles, and all I can think of

1977
01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:32,640
is that there Yankee doodles, but not chocolate there.

1978
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 8: I remember them years heard many many doodles.

1979
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:41,119
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, sounds like he belongs to the Winter Hill.

1980
01:55:41,319 --> 01:55:42,359
Speaker 8: We have to go check it out.

1981
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:50,159
Speaker 13: Sunny doodless cakes with yell out with golden cake.

1982
01:55:50,439 --> 01:55:53,399
Speaker 7: That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

1983
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 8: They I used to like those years ago, and then

1984
01:55:56,920 --> 01:56:00,960
when they went out of business and they sold the business,

1985
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,479
they didn't make those, they didn't bring them back. So

1986
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,720
this apparently they're bringing them back now. I got to

1987
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,760
look out for them. Then there go. I'm pretty excited.

1988
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:12,840
I think. In fact, I'm going to go out now now,

1989
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,720
stopping shot to see if I'm if there's any mother.

1990
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 6: Man, let me know if they got him, just stopping

1991
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:20,199
shop near me. I'll go get some too.

1992
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:25,079
Speaker 8: Thank you, club, Yeah, thank you, uh.

1993
01:56:25,079 --> 01:56:30,079
Speaker 7: Switchy, thank you, thank you brought your contributions on and

1994
01:56:30,119 --> 01:56:34,600
off the air. Okay, yeah, do you have any final words?

1995
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:36,399
Not final words, but uh.

1996
01:56:39,399 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 4: Oh happy trails trail that's a good one.

1997
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:43,359
Speaker 6: I look that way.

1998
01:56:43,399 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 7: That's but we don't have time two hours. Thanks thank you,

1999
01:56:54,000 --> 01:57:00,159
uh uncle, Al, thank you Al. Glad to be here. Man,

2000
01:57:00,399 --> 01:57:04,199
If only people knew what goes on before and after and.

2001
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 6: Some day you're gonna bring some bees on the show.

2002
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 7: Bring some bees on the show? Well, you know, we

2003
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:13,600
can just do the show from the house and really yeah,

2004
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,079
I don't think the two missuses, but I appreciate that.

2005
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:18,960
You know, let's bring some bees in it. It's probably easier,

2006
01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:20,680
Thank you all.

2007
01:57:21,159 --> 01:57:23,399
Speaker 9: I'll bring a queen cage in next week so you

2008
01:57:23,439 --> 01:57:26,880
can see what the what she's locked up in until

2009
01:57:27,079 --> 01:57:28,520
I've managed to free her.

2010
01:57:29,039 --> 01:57:31,079
Speaker 6: That I had never heard of that I'd like to

2011
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:31,560
see that.

2012
01:57:31,479 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 7: And they put a block of candy in the doorway.

2013
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,920
Is that it? This really sounds like I Samson.

2014
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 9: Because they put the way the cage is designed. It's

2015
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:42,159
screen on the front so they can feed her and

2016
01:57:42,199 --> 01:57:45,239
take care of her. And she has a few attendants

2017
01:57:45,239 --> 01:57:48,840
in the cage with her. Yes, But on one side

2018
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:53,159
of the cage there's the piece of hard candy, and

2019
01:57:53,159 --> 01:57:57,359
then beyond that is a small piece of cork that

2020
01:57:57,439 --> 01:58:01,000
they can't get through. Okay, So when you install the

2021
01:58:01,039 --> 01:58:04,520
hiding and the bees and the new hive, you pop

2022
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:07,119
out the piece of cork which allows them to get

2023
01:58:07,159 --> 01:58:10,119
in at the candy. Yes, if you open the other end,

2024
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,319
which just has a piece of cork, yes, she can

2025
01:58:13,359 --> 01:58:13,720
get out.

2026
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 6: And she flies away and you go bye bye.

2027
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 7: What's good? And it's the end of that. All right,

2028
01:58:19,119 --> 01:58:24,920
we are And eighty dollars just flies away. Okay, wave

2029
01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:29,560
bet the Celtics. I saw the same thing. All of

2030
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:35,000
money grows wings and flies well manst bee, lady behind me, lady.

2031
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 6: Our show is not timeless, but everybody knows when that happened.

2032
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 7: We're not happening yet. Also, well, thank you one one

2033
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:46,920
for joining us. I should it be here and thank

2034
01:58:47,039 --> 01:58:49,800
you everyone out there for listening. Let me very quickly

2035
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:53,319
do the plugs Homes rot Shoos is a military organization

2036
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:57,680
that raises money for our veterans wounded in combat after

2037
01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:00,520
nine eleven. That's yeah, ranky war and the aft anymore.

2038
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:03,960
These people who came home missing a limb are so

2039
01:59:04,359 --> 01:59:08,039
and home start Truths built homes for them, are adaptable

2040
01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:11,039
to their needs. Heard us talk about literally hundreds of times,

2041
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,439
a lower count of space, not a lot of stairs,

2042
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:17,079
so on and so forth. These people can move in

2043
01:59:17,399 --> 01:59:20,479
and as soon as they're ready, they give them the keys.

2044
01:59:20,479 --> 01:59:22,640
They rip up the blugtgage. It's their house to keep

2045
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:26,520
forever forever, and they don't have them monthly mortgage payment

2046
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:28,960
hang over the heads saying well, rejoin society. These are

2047
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,840
people who did a lot for us, so we should

2048
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:34,920
do a lot for them. Ninety cents on your dollar

2049
01:59:35,039 --> 01:59:38,760
goes strictly right to our veterans. So Homestar Truth please

2050
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,960
google them see what they're about. Once again, Moor most

2051
01:59:42,039 --> 01:59:44,920
important these days. John McCain not a loser, He's a

2052
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,479
way hero. You don't make fun of people like that.

2053
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:52,960
And I am especially upset at the fact that they

2054
01:59:53,039 --> 01:59:57,439
are changing. They are changing the name of Veterans Day

2055
01:59:58,319 --> 02:00:03,920
to Victory in World War One Day. Okay, what really?

2056
02:00:04,159 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 8: Yes, No, Congress will not approve it.

2057
02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:09,439
Speaker 6: Oh is that right?

2058
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:10,680
Speaker 7: Well, it's been proposed.

2059
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:13,199
Speaker 8: Congress has to approve it.

2060
02:00:13,359 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 7: Okay. But they were thinking of doing this, and then

2061
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:20,560
someone said, well wait a minute, okay, I mean basically

2062
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:25,079
went back to they were going to rename May eighth

2063
02:00:25,319 --> 02:00:29,119
is called v Day because that's when in nineteen forty five,

2064
02:00:29,199 --> 02:00:31,960
World War Two ended on May eighth in Europe. In

2065
02:00:32,039 --> 02:00:35,039
other words, Germany was defeated. It's not the end of

2066
02:00:35,119 --> 02:00:38,840
World War two. Yeah, it's the end of World War

2067
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:43,079
two in Europe. Someone mistook that and said, well, listen,

2068
02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:46,159
we did more to beat the Germans than anyone else.

2069
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:53,600
So we're going to change that to Victory in Europe Day. Yes, okay, No, no,

2070
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:57,640
it's called Victory US Victory Day or something like that. Well,

2071
02:00:57,720 --> 02:01:00,560
first of all, world War two ended on August fifteenth,

2072
02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:02,600
not May eighth, So you got to get your history right.

2073
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,760
And number two, if you're going to change Veterans Day,

2074
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:10,119
you know to World War one Day. Okay, what about

2075
02:01:10,159 --> 02:01:15,520
the veterans in Afghanistan and Vietnam? And in Iraq and

2076
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:18,319
all these other wars we've been involved in. You know

2077
02:01:18,479 --> 02:01:21,600
what about them? You have to honor all of them,

2078
02:01:22,119 --> 02:01:25,439
all of them, and not make up names for holidays

2079
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:27,840
that you know you don't like the previous names of. Okay,

2080
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:31,760
so please just look in on what's happening to our

2081
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:33,880
veterans these days. That's all I'm trying to say. So

2082
02:01:35,399 --> 02:01:38,039
until next time, I want to thank everyone once again,

2083
02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:41,199
Thank everyone for listening. Until next time. This is MAC

2084
02:01:41,279 --> 02:01:46,159
for the entire gang saying be safe. I'm sorry I

2085
02:01:46,239 --> 02:01:49,560
was reading the script. Be safe, be what is it?

2086
02:01:50,399 --> 02:01:52,760
Be safe, be happy, and bye bye