WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:06.759 Number forty four, Brady, one more time. 2 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:10.320 I'll look back on all things nineties and two thousands, 3 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:11.480 the movies. 4 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:16.000 That is so fetch, Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen. 5 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:18.800 It's not going to happen. The awkwardness. 6 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:24.160 Here's your host, Brady Broski. 7 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:26.719 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Do you not remember that? No? 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.280 You remember the song was good, good, good good O. 9 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:32.359 We're gonna have to talk about that. That's part of 10 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:33.320 this whole episode. 11 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:34.039 Interesting. 12 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.679 It's a very important point in what I'm trying to 13 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:37.079 make here. 14 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.079 What if this flips my whole opinion? It might? 15 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:39.840 It really might? 16 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:40.479 Uh? 17 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:41.079 This is it, man. 18 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:45.439 The most nostalgialistic podcast on the planets is I don't 19 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:46.359 know about other planets. 20 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:48.000 We'll have to find out when we go to space. 21 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:51.000 Yeah, Mars has a couple really really good ones. 22 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:52.000 They are really nostalgic. 23 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:54.920 Yeahistic Martians are big into nostalgia. 24 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:56.640 This is Brady one more time. 25 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.479 Excuse me, I am Brady Broski and with me the 26 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:04.079 Kickball King what up? And a guy who's I figured 27 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.599 out what your superpower is? Your superpower is that you 28 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.680 can turn any text message into an emoji. 29 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:14.879 Oh, in my reactions that the reaction now supports. 30 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:18.239 Yes, finally, yeah, because because there's seventeen people in the 31 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.480 group text and you're the one that doesn't. 32 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:22.719 Yeah, but yeah, you do you figure out a way. 33 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:23.879 Yeah, like you work in. 34 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.959 A coconut, like a random like egg plant, and it 35 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:28.439 makes sense. 36 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:33.719 An orange square, perhaps an orange square or a building 37 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:38.840 with uh maybe a school with the left and right arrows. 38 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.640 If you haven't seen the SNL character that skit, then 39 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:45.280 then you need to because that's one of the funniest 40 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:45.680 songs there. 41 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.879 It is Darling Dan Ginsburg, What up going to be back? 42 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.719 I know we took a little hiatus, but we're gonna 43 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:53.719 have a fun topic today. And this one came to 44 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:56.040 me just scrolling, scroll and scrolling, and it caught my 45 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.280 eye because I heard, uh, these four words was the 46 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.120 first four words of this this reel that I saw, and. 47 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:03.879 I was like, this is perfect for the podcast. 48 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:08.879 And the title is is Nirvana over rated? 49 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:13.159 Overrated? One word or two words? It's one day, It's 50 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:14.919 not even just overrated. 51 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:18.039 Also, your other superpower grammarcuation. 52 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:20.120 I do help with a few things on this podcast, 53 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.719 grammar being one of those. Yeah, butfore we get into that. Yeah, 54 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:28.800 A brief recap of some feedback about your cover song choices. Okay, 55 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:33.360 interesting that I Will Always Love You was not chosen, right, 56 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:37.520 but I'm every woman, was I remember? Well, yes, that 57 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.520 was my unpopular opinion. Remember, yeah, yeah, that's right, but 58 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:44.520 I was still anticipating it might come later and it didn't. Also, 59 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.400 nothing compares to you snat O'Connor. 60 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:49.000 Oh, because it's a cover of prints. 61 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.639 Yeah, but no, that doesn't count because I don't think 62 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:52.400 eighty five? 63 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:54.759 But was it a single? 64 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:57.439 Was it even like a Oh? I don't think. Was 65 00:02:57.439 --> 00:02:58.280 that the criteria? 66 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.879 I think so kind of because like, yeah, okay, you 67 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:04.439 can cover, you can cover so that nobody ever heard of? 68 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:08.120 Is cover correct technically? But I don't know. I don't. 69 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:10.400 Yeah, the point was I wanted to pick some really 70 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:11.080 random ones. 71 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:14.240 That's fair. Well, you definitely succeeded at that. Theother one 72 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:18.639 that was yeah, was killing me softly Fuji's Oh yeah. 73 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:21.120 So good, ROBERTA Flag, Well, we'll do it again. There's 74 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.719 plenty to choose for you. The nineties just had just 75 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:25.639 no one was original. 76 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:25.879 In the nineties. 77 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.400 But yeah, so today today's episode is is Nirvana overrated? 78 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.560 One of the most iconic bands, probably the most known 79 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.000 band to come from the nineties. 80 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:42.159 Uh, that's more than an ace of bass, a bass 81 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.199 as a group to me, I think, I I think, 82 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.840 I but I do love Ace of Bass. What a band? 83 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:48.879 I mean Green Day. See. 84 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.520 Now Here's this is where the debate starts, right, because 85 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.680 when I think of Nirvana, the first thing I think 86 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:00.680 of is their overall contribution to the sound of music, 87 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.120 not the not the musical sound of music, but how 88 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:05.560 the nineties shifted. 89 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:07.240 I would agree, completely shifted. 90 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:11.840 But first question for you, which like your first Nirvana memory? 91 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:14.919 What do you remember about hearing the band, knowing any 92 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:15.520 of the music? 93 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.759 Yeah? I remember. I've talked about my my boom box 94 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:22.240 that I used to bring to roller hockey, I think 95 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:25.079 on this show before, but familiar that was one of 96 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.680 the CDs in middle school that I would play in 97 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:30.519 my boombox that was powered by like eight D batteries 98 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.000 never mind. 99 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:33.279 Yeah, yeah, okay, yep. 100 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:37.959 While we uh while we roller to come to come 101 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:43.079 as you are to lithium like what yeah, okay, yeah. 102 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.920 So you remember you remember them from that that early 103 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.439 age of being in the background with your friends. 104 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.519 Yeah, I remember that. I mean, I can remember that 105 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:53.040 I played the CD so many times. I remember the 106 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:55.959 controversial album cover with the naked baby on it, but 107 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.040 I you know, I remember just playing those CDs to death, 108 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:05.480 and I mean probably my most iconic memory, which is 109 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.600 really hilarious looking back, as a Jewish kid who was 110 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:10.519 getting bar mitzvah and going to a lot of bar 111 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.600 and bought mitzvahs. My my seventh grade year, like the 112 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:17.480 social scene was like every other weekend someone else was 113 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.120 throwing a bar about mitzvah party and we were like 114 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:25.279 forming mosh pits and jumping around to Nirvana among other 115 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.199 you know, alternative rock acts at the time. To our 116 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.279 parents like horror, like what the hell are these middle 117 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:32.240 school kids doing? 118 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:35.879 But that was just the culture. It was popular music. Yeah, 119 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:40.879 it really was. My first memory is the video. Okay, 120 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:41.439 the video. 121 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.240 It was grainy, it was dark, it was emo, it 122 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:44.920 was all. 123 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:47.399 Things that music videos were not at the time, for 124 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:48.279 smells like teen spirit. 125 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:53.759 You do you recall I didn't get cable and obviously 126 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:55.639 that was where we watched videos in this is the 127 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.160 only times I got to see music videos were when 128 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:00.800 I was at my friend's houses. So I didn't know 129 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:02.000 video as well in that day. 130 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.399 Okay, the video was one that MTV put in like 131 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:08.079 superpower that makes it was just because I mean, MTV 132 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.879 was like the cool way to discover music and there 133 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:13.240 was nothing cooler at the time, the Nirvana. But I 134 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.920 just remember seeing it and being like, oh shit, like 135 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.000 this is like this is things are things are getting 136 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.000 things are getting dark, things are getting weird, right, Yeah, 137 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:23.879 But also I'm like I'm kind of digging it, and 138 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.040 like you people at school were also like starting to 139 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.360 be into it, right, And then you hear it smells 140 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.199 like teen Spirit on the radio, which we didn't have. 141 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:34.639 We didn't have a rock station or an alternative station 142 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.360 at that point. Yeah, so to hear it on pop 143 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:40.160 radio was a little strange, right. I think it came 144 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:41.560 I think it came up on a couple of the 145 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:42.920 countdown shows I would listen to. 146 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.079 Yeah, But back to the video. 147 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:48.600 Forever MTV would do, you know, they would do like 148 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.319 specialty countdowns, like the top fifty videos of all time, 149 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:53.720 and for years and years and years it was it 150 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.199 was thriller. Nothing would top thriller. And I want to say, 151 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.000 at one point, smells like teen Spirit took the number 152 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:00.560 one spot. 153 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.639 Yeah, maybe number two, it was right there. Maybe it was. 154 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.120 I just remember being like, wow, this is really and 155 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.480 it was early on yeah, with the video, so that's 156 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.600 kind of like the video was really my first memory 157 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:16.199 of Nirvana. Smells like teen Spirit obviously being their their 158 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.439 first big hit. Yeah, but then I kind of got 159 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:19.839 into them and then Come As You Are as a 160 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:23.319 follow up and that became like my favorite Nirvana song. 161 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:28.480 So so yeah, So we had an all rock station 162 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.759 all I grew I believe. So I grew up in 163 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.600 the Detroit area. I was in an arbor, but Detroit 164 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.279 was our radio market and eighty nine X I believe 165 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.279 was the alternative station back then. But all the alt 166 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.399 stations had an exenym. Yeah, but I didn't listen to 167 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.959 a you know, alternative music. When on an alternative station, 168 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.120 I listened to pop. And then along came you know, 169 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:53.519 Nirvana was at the forefront of alternative music, kind of 170 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:54.800 taking over pop for a while. 171 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:56.680 Yeah, it crossed over yeah. Yeah, And of course it 172 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:00.079 was the beginning of grunge. They're the really the the 173 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:04.759 father of grunges. Nirvana and then Lo and Behold. Then 174 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:06.639 we get all these other bands, we get the sound gardens, 175 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:09.000 the Alison chains As Stone Temple Pilots. 176 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.600 They led a movement. They did in terms of I 177 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.399 mean maybe not in terms of creating the sound. Definitely 178 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.279 not in terms of creating the sound, but in terms 179 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:19.879 of popularizing it and just making it icon. 180 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:22.199 Right, it puts Seattle on the map. Yeah, like all 181 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:24.199 these all these artists were coming out of Seattle. 182 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.800 And it's funny that you mentioned the music video dethroning 183 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.800 or competing with Michael Jackson, because my the first note 184 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.120 I had in my arguments for why they are not 185 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:41.159 overrated is that never Mind knocked Mjay's Dangerous off of 186 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:43.360 number one on the on the Billboard out on the 187 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.080 album chart. Yeah, that was a huge aff for Sirvana 188 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:49.639 to take, to overtake Michael Jackson, to completely pull her 189 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:50.519 opposite artists. 190 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.759 And the other big important thing about Nirvana is as 191 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.440 this grunge thing is beginning and they're kind of leading 192 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.360 the way with it. It really a lot of like 193 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:03.080 music theorists say it put a dagger into the hair metal, 194 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.879 hair like hair rock era because that was coming out, 195 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:08.320 that was coming to a close right at that time. 196 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:10.399 It's kind of it was kind of a sign of 197 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:13.919 the times. Too, because the eighties were you know, all 198 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:16.840 about uh, you know, excess and we're going to do 199 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.240 all these crazy things. We're partying, wild girls, big hair, 200 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.679 all the fun. And then here come the nineties and 201 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.240 it's a little the angstier. 202 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.159 Yeah, more chill, anxious. 203 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.080 Yeah yeah, I don't care. I don't care. 204 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.960 That's exactly That's exactly what Nirvana and Kirk Cobain is 205 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:32.919 when you look at the band. 206 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:36.960 Yeah yeah, I mean it's interesting that, you know, Kurt 207 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.399 Cobain said he couldn't A quote from him was that 208 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:42.039 he couldn't even pass guitar one on one like he was. 209 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.679 You know, if you want to get into the arguments 210 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.399 for them being overrated, but one you'll hear a lot 211 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:53.000 is in terms of you know, musical composition stuff like that. 212 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:57.759 You know, they didn't have the the formula. 213 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:00.960 Or the it wasn't traditional, right, it was so unique. 214 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:04.879 The biggest argument I can I could make if I 215 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:09.600 chose overrated was their actual production, their music production. They've 216 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:14.279 only put out three studio albums, that's right. Three, That's 217 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:16.159 not a lot, and they're regarded it as one of 218 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:17.960 the great and the first ballot rock and Roll Hall 219 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:18.480 of Famers. 220 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:21.639 That's I think that's probably unheard of if. 221 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:24.279 You go down the list in terms of longevity's such 222 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.000 a big factor in making the Hall of Fame. Yeah, 223 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:29.519 and they didn't have it. I mean they had They 224 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:33.919 were basically three big for three years before Cobaine took 225 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.120 his life, and you know, obviously they endured beyond that, 226 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.200 and a lot of their singles that were big during 227 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:43.120 those three years became iconic for years to come. But 228 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:45.840 any other artist that you put on a list of 229 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.799 like all timers, has way more than three years when 230 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.279 they are releasing hit singles. 231 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:52.600 Correct. 232 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.519 Yeah, there were three big in the in the biggest 233 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:58.960 time frame, then they could be big right talking about 234 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:01.279 his death. And that's another argument for why they are 235 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.360 overrated because a lot of a lot of people, a 236 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:08.159 lot of critics say they're only big because they're immortalizing 237 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:11.559 this guy, similar to like you know the twenty seven Club, right, 238 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:14.000 these people that pass away and then they become even 239 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:15.720 bigger than they were when they were alive. 240 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:17.879 Right, But I would argue they push back on that. 241 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.159 Yeah, I too, I've heard, Yeah, you hear that argument 242 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:21.600 for sure. I don't like that. I mean, it's the 243 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:24.039 same it's no different than you know, when when Michael 244 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:27.200 Jackson died, he gets a huge massive boosts and sales. 245 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:30.440 When it's not as if Nirvana didn't have you know, 246 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:36.080 pop culture success or notoriety until Kobain's staff like they were, 247 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.600 they were huge before that. Of course there was more 248 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:41.799 attention drawn to them when that happened, but it's not 249 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.679 that's an't you know, that didn't create their success. It 250 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:45.240 did not know. 251 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:49.039 Another argument you can make for being overrated is the 252 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:51.120 lyrical incoherence for some. 253 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:53.720 Of the music. That one, that one's fair, it smells. 254 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.080 Like teen Spirit, which what I played at the top 255 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:59.679 was weird Al's cover like Nirvana. 256 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:01.360 Sense of course it was. 257 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:03.600 And the whole stick of that song is he's just 258 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.159 making fun of them. Nobody understands what you're saying. But 259 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.720 I will argue that is a case to be made 260 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:12.600 that you are underrated. When weird aut So is spoofing 261 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.159 on a song. You know, it's a big pop culture song. 262 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.759 He doesn't pick like, you know, a song that charted, 263 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.000 you know, under the top thirty. It's big hits that 264 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:24.639 everybody knows. So I said, that's a compliment, right, Definitely, 265 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:25.399 I mean I would. 266 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.440 Also say there's a lot of there's plenty of other 267 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:30.360 alt rock metal bands that you can't really tell what 268 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:33.039 they're saying. I mean, Stone Temple Pilots have plenty of 269 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.799 songs where a Pearl Jam, I mean Pearl Jam more 270 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.440 than Stone Temple Pilest. Yeah, Eddie Vetter, I could. 271 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:41.440 It took me a while to like really appreciate Pearl 272 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:42.639 Jam until I went to a live show. 273 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:43.639 Actually it was the first time I. 274 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.960 Was like, oh, I get it, because there's a bunch 275 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:48.879 of Pearl Jam songs that I love, absolutely love and 276 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.120 always have, but there's a bunch that I'm just like, 277 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.639 I don't get this, guys. But but yeah, So back 278 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.639 to his passing. Do you remember where you were when 279 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:57.120 you found out? 280 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.200 I don't. I don't. I mean I remember like the 281 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.480 aftermath of it, but I don't have a vivid memory. Yeah, 282 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:05.399 I mean I was again, this is where our couple. 283 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:09.120 Of years, it was what it was a ninety four 284 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:11.279 either ninety four to ninety five. But I do know 285 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:13.720 where I was. I was upstairs in my bedroom watching 286 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:19.840 MTV and on coming news. It's Kurt Loder with an 287 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:23.320 MTV breaking news and I was just like what like 288 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:26.679 it was like the first time like an artist had 289 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:30.919 tragically died, right, Yeah, it wasn't like yeah, and he 290 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.879 was he was really hitting his prime at that point. 291 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.799 So it's weird that I remember like exactly exactly where 292 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:40.679 it wasn't then, I don't know, maybe like a month 293 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.039 or so later, even a couple of weeks later. That's 294 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.039 when you start to see at school, you start to 295 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:46.320 see the merch come out. 296 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:47.879 Yeah, you start to see the T shirt. 297 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:49.320 Well, I was just say, I mean, I can remember 298 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:51.799 being at school like probably the day after it happened 299 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.240 and everyone talking about it. Yeah, it was a big 300 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.440 trying to get rushed to the record store to get 301 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.600 his album, get their albums. Yeah. 302 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:04.279 The top moments of Nirvana's career according to Rolling Stone, 303 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.000 I'll just give you the top two because these are 304 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.679 my two favorites. There's an SNL moment, the one and 305 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:12.320 only time they performed on SNL. Yeah, they were trying 306 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:17.480 to basically criticize people that had that were it was 307 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:21.440 like a like a homophobic, anti homophobic statement. So the 308 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.120 three of them on stage at the time ahead of 309 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:25.440 their time at the three of them at the end 310 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:29.440 of the show made out, they were never invited back 311 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:30.000 and never. 312 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:32.799 Knew that and I just completely forgot it. Wow. 313 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.000 And then there was the Unplugged album. 314 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.399 MTV Unplugged album one of the one of the best 315 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:40.159 live albums of the decade ever. 316 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:43.279 Right, it's so good, probably the I mean, could you 317 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.440 I would even compare with for MTV Unplugged best. I 318 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:48.600 put that one up there. I'd put Mariah's up there, 319 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:50.559 gonna say Mariah was the only one that came to mind. 320 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.320 And Air I would say Air clapt into. Okay, that's 321 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:55.919 a good pick. But Nirvana's was the head and shoulders 322 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.600 above all. Yeah, and they have the man who sold 323 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.960 the world from that on Plugged as a Neil Young cover. 324 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.600 Yeah, I think that sounds right. But that I mean that, 325 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:06.519 and that was a massive hit on it, you know, 326 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:08.759 I want to say, was that a hit? I think 327 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:11.759 that was a hit after Cobain's death. That might have 328 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:14.320 been the first post posthumous single. 329 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.559 That sounds about right to say that. Back to the 330 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:24.200 to the merch funny story. I'm in Orlando on vacation 331 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.240 with one of our friends who names rhymes with gidget. 332 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:30.240 Uh, and this is young. 333 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.919 Let it be this young, like eleven year old kid 334 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:36.639 gets in the elevator wearing an Anirvani shirt and she's 335 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:40.360 definitely on the overrated side of this argument, and. 336 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:42.799 She's like, Nirvana's overrated, and I was like. 337 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:44.440 Wait, and she's wearing a Nirvana shirt. 338 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:46.360 No, the kid was right right. 339 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:49.559 Oh oh, the boy our friend is the one who's 340 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:55.200 yelling at the kid that got it a very loud, 341 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:00.639 boisterous great great uh grill, great thriller. 342 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.519 Great griller though, great thriller. And then so it was 343 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.600 a very awkward ride down the elevator. But it didn't 344 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:09.279 stop at that comment. Now she proceeds to brate this 345 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:11.679 kid and ask him how many Nirvana songs he knows, 346 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:12.879 which he did. 347 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:16.080 Well, okay, well he was an actual fan, because sometimes 348 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.440 you just wear it for the fashion, right, you know, 349 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:20.840 it could be like a retro there's people. I I'm 350 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:23.120 wearingly impressed by this kid that he was actually like 351 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:23.960 a legit fan. 352 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.360 He came at gidget, but you see it, but you 353 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.159 still see it today. So that's my point. Yeah, you 354 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:32.240 see young young people kind of like when we grew up, 355 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:34.240 you know, we knew like the Door, Yeah, we knew 356 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.080 classic rock, we knew these bands. They were kind of 357 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:39.279 cool and I feel like they still have that cool factor. 358 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:43.480 Back to the grunge artists real quick, Yes, other than Nirvana. 359 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:48.039 Would you say you had a favorite? Oh man, Uh, 360 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:49.759 there's not many to choose from. 361 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:53.080 Yeah, right, like what? Yeah? Who falls into that? 362 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:54.919 Would say? I would put Okay, I would put how 363 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:55.720 about out of these? 364 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:59.799 I would say Alison Chains, Pearl Jam, Sound Garden, Stone 365 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:01.480 Tell Pilots, I. 366 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:04.960 Would I would definitely go Pearl Jam of the Jose. Yeah, 367 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:09.359 just I feel like they have more iconic memorable songs 368 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:12.039 from that age and that like lasted. 369 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:13.559 Through now and they said they're still doing it to Yeah, 370 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:15.160 they're still crushing it. Yeah, you want to get a 371 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.240 Stone type of Pilot's huge too, though. 372 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:18.039 You want to guess mine. 373 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:20.839 If you guess it correctly, I will play my favorite 374 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:22.599 Barney Stintson legendary. 375 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.319 Oh wow, there's so many of those to choose. Yeah? 376 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:29.319 Is it Alison Chains? No? Is it? Pearl Jam? 377 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:29.920 No? 378 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:36.279 Is it? Is it one of the ones you just met? Yeah? 379 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:39.799 What was the fourth? There's Sound Garden and sound Guard, 380 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:44.799 No well Stone, Double Pilots, what's gonna be legend? Wait? 381 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:45.400 Wait for it? 382 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:47.279 And I hope you're not lockedows and taller because the 383 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:49.440 second half of that word is dairy. 384 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:51.599 Nice STP big STP guy. 385 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.279 Yeah from from the Jump though, Like I love their 386 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:56.519 first album when it came, when it came out and whatever, 387 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:57.640 ninety four ninety. 388 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:00.319 Three, that does a great album them. 389 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:04.839 Another guy that you know left us too soon, Scott Wiland. Yeah, 390 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:06.559 although everybody kind of like thought it was going to 391 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:09.119 happen because he was like in rough shape. 392 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:14.400 His last Yeah with theris my recollection of Cobain as 393 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:16.000 it really caught everyone off guard. 394 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:19.000 Yeah, totally totally, and then there was all the controversy 395 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:20.720 and rumors and all that stuff. 396 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.319 Can you imagine if that happened today, the amount of 397 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:26.559 conspiracies and rumors about what happened. 398 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:27.200 Yeah, it would be ever y. 399 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:29.400 So, I mean, the one other thing that has to 400 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:33.000 be pointed out in the overrated arguments and I have 401 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:35.440