Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, KFI, mister bo Kelly, We're live everywhere on
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app and it's Tech Thursday, and that means
Speaker 2: we get to talk to Marsha Collier who had left us,
Speaker 2: left the country, so I'm told, and I'm surprised she
Speaker 2: did come back, but I'm glad she came back.
Speaker 3: Marshall, car was good to see you. Where'd you go?
Speaker 4: I went to England to visit my family. And I
Speaker 4: say England because I spent a couple of days in
Speaker 4: London because my daughter was with me.
Speaker 5: Kind of have to do that.
Speaker 4: It was my uncle's ninety eighth birthday. Oh what a blessing,
Speaker 4: and he was all dressed up in a gorgeous suit
Speaker 4: and tie and cuff links. We went out to a
Speaker 4: restaurant for dinner. It was spectacular and he mentally challenged me.
Speaker 4: And I've just decided that if God forbid, anything happens
Speaker 4: to me bad in the head as I get older,
Speaker 4: I want to be in a home over there.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be your retirement community.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 5: I figured it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we missed you, but glad to have you back.
Speaker 2: As an Android owner, a pixel Phone owner, I know
Speaker 2: that I can pretty much depend on a new operating
Speaker 2: system just about each October. It used to coincide when
Speaker 2: they would release the latest version of the pixel phone,
Speaker 2: but they moved at the pixel Phone date. Well, they
Speaker 2: debuted it, but you couldn't get it for like another
Speaker 2: forty five days. But Android fifteen is out. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what the name for it is. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they still name them anymore.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: But in my new book Android Smartphones for Seniors for Dummies,
Speaker 4: which comes out December fifth, available for pre order on Amazon.
Speaker 5: It's in there all right.
Speaker 4: I never remember what I write in a book because
Speaker 4: when you see my books, there's so much information that
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 5: To flip back to reference the stuff.
Speaker 4: So you know, that's why there's a great index so
Speaker 4: you can find things, because it's filled with stuff.
Speaker 2: I downloaded Android fifteen what is today Thursday? I did
Speaker 2: it on Tuesday too, and I didn't have a chance
Speaker 2: to really play with it yet, but I know some
Speaker 2: of the highlights and some of the new features.
Speaker 3: Have you had much chance to work with it.
Speaker 4: Well, I obviously when I wrote the book, I had
Speaker 4: a bunch of phones and one of them was a
Speaker 4: Pixel Pro seven, which I was on the beta testing
Speaker 4: for Android fifteen.
Speaker 3: Explain it for folks who may not know what beta
Speaker 3: testing is.
Speaker 4: That means they need some people to try out operating
Speaker 4: systems to see where the failures are, to see where
Speaker 4: the good things are, to find out oops.
Speaker 5: You do that, you lock up your phone.
Speaker 4: So it's not something you definitely want to try on
Speaker 4: your daily driver, and you need to have a little
Speaker 4: bit of technical knowledge to get out of some messes
Speaker 4: that you do get in. But I had it on
Speaker 4: this phone and I was watching it happen, and it's
Speaker 4: a new operating system, it's got new features. It's not
Speaker 4: going to change your life, just like I hate to
Speaker 4: break it to your iPhone folks, The new iPhone not
Speaker 4: going to change your life.
Speaker 2: So these were maybe incremental upgrades, not a revolutionary or
Speaker 2: a material upgrade.
Speaker 4: Well, the beta test came in different downloads, like they'd
Speaker 4: download one thing and then if something was broken with that,
Speaker 4: they'd fix it in the next download and the next download,
Speaker 4: so it went several downloads, and things are incremental for example.
Speaker 4: It's not out right now, but there will be something
Speaker 4: in Android fifteen which will allow you to set your
Speaker 4: phone so that you can plug it in all night
Speaker 4: and will stop charging at eighty percent.
Speaker 2: Stop or slow down Stop. What would be the advantage
Speaker 2: of that, because I'd like to keep my iPhone charge
Speaker 2: well it. But when you have a battery a lithium,
Speaker 2: a lithium I own battery in a phone and you
Speaker 2: charge it to one hundred or you let it go
Speaker 2: down below twenty, there's damage to the battery. Yes, So
Speaker 2: to extend the life of a battery, you don't have
Speaker 2: to turn it on. If you want to charge to
Speaker 2: one hundred, you can, but you will have the option
Speaker 2: to stop it at eighty and then have it, let's
Speaker 2: say at five am in the morning finish charging.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we'll finish charging.
Speaker 2: And I do know that, and I know that when
Speaker 2: I get a new phone, that battery has about a
Speaker 2: year and a half two years before it starts to degrade.
Speaker 3: That I noticed it at least.
Speaker 4: And you'll find when you start stopping at eighty percent.
Speaker 4: Because other brands have phones already do this, that was
Speaker 4: in their own software overlay, that they will last a
Speaker 4: lot longer, and the batteries just they don't deterar, right,
Speaker 4: because these are expensive little devices. We need them, we
Speaker 4: use them, we get upgrades. And I mean, what now,
Speaker 4: there's a six to seven year upgrade period with each
Speaker 4: Android phone.
Speaker 2: And how likely are you to keep that same phone
Speaker 2: for six or seven years?
Speaker 3: I have, I should say, actively.
Speaker 5: Using, actively using. You know, I still have a couple
Speaker 5: old ones that.
Speaker 2: I keep my old ones, but I'm not I may
Speaker 2: use them as a spare camera for security purpose.
Speaker 4: Okay, I've got a spare camera phone. I have got
Speaker 4: a home entertainment phone, gotcha, that has all those apps
Speaker 4: on it because I don't want to take up space
Speaker 4: and what I'm carrying around because I Am not going
Speaker 4: to stop anywhere and watch Big Bang Theory. And I
Speaker 4: have another one smart home as all my smart home stuff.
Speaker 4: The smart home one also has all my financial stuff
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 5: Those apps. I will not put on a phone that
Speaker 5: I'm carrying around. It's just not safe.
Speaker 2: Speaking of not saying, very quickly, before we go to break,
Speaker 2: let's talk about this new feature called theft protection on
Speaker 2: Android fifteen. If I have it right, the phone will
Speaker 2: sense if if someone is like stolen your phone and
Speaker 2: yanked it out of your hand and starts running down
Speaker 2: the street. Yes, supposedly suppose it, right, Not that I
Speaker 2: want to try it to find out.
Speaker 4: Well, we were trying it downstairs and obviously we don't
Speaker 4: run fast enough.
Speaker 3: You didn't trigger it, no, or the.
Speaker 4: Wi Fi wasn't working, we didn't have a signal. You know,
Speaker 4: there's all that technically what's supposed to happen. And also
Speaker 4: they're still sending down incremental downloads of Android fifteen, so
Speaker 4: you may get part of it and may not get
Speaker 4: all of it.
Speaker 5: But that's basically what Mo said. Some you're on your phone, dout.
Speaker 3: Not payg attention, right.
Speaker 5: Someone yanks it out of your hand, starts running with it.
Speaker 4: Then it uses the gyro scope, it uses your location,
Speaker 4: It uses all these methods AI no doubt to lock
Speaker 4: the phone.
Speaker 3: It's almost like crash detection for your phone.
Speaker 4: Right, And crash detection is another one of the new features. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go crash my car to test it, but.
Speaker 2: But if you should, your phone will let you know
Speaker 2: that it's you've crashed your car and call emergency service.
Speaker 5: Well, I can tell you that on Star did that.
Speaker 5: So I can't.
Speaker 3: But this is Star per month, right.
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is I know it can be done.
Speaker 4: Becausej yeah, so on Star did it. Now, if you
Speaker 4: want to go where you need to go to find
Speaker 4: all these really cool Google things on a pixel phone,
Speaker 4: you go to settings. You know how to do that, right,
Speaker 4: you press a little cog thing. Google is an actual
Speaker 4: category now and it will be in a lot of
Speaker 4: Android phones. Then all services. Then you'll see theft protection,
Speaker 4: theft detection lock.
Speaker 5: Oh, and you can lock it now.
Speaker 4: Once you turn it on, you have to thumbprint or
Speaker 4: something to get out of it, you know, thumb print
Speaker 4: or user and that's it. If somebody forcefully takes your
Speaker 4: phone from your hand and runs away, now not only
Speaker 4: do they have that, but they have a lot of
Speaker 4: other things they have.
Speaker 3: Uh, we got unknown tracker alerts. I'm just noticing, Oh.
Speaker 5: My god, the unknown tracker alert.
Speaker 4: My husband had a tracker with me and it kept
Speaker 4: beeping and beeping, and my phone keeps going, there's a
Speaker 4: tracker following there's a tracker following you. And in my book,
Speaker 4: you're going to be able to learn how to identify
Speaker 4: whose tracker it is.
Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait. I need an advance copy.
Speaker 5: You can have one as soon as I get them.
Speaker 3: All right, It's Later with mo Keller.
Speaker 2: We're talking with Marshall Collier, who's back from England on
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: KFI O Kelly, We're live everywhere on this Tech Thursday
Speaker 2: and on the iHeartRadio App. Marshall Collier joins us in studio.
Speaker 2: She's back from across the pond. Marshall, tell me something
Speaker 2: about these past keys. I'm hearing that terminology all the time.
Speaker 5: Paskeys are you know?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna agree with all of you because I'm not
Speaker 4: going to fake knowing something and just gaslight all you.
Speaker 4: Paskeys come in so many different flavors and so many
Speaker 4: different ways. There's one website that may want you to
Speaker 4: download some keys for you to keep somewhere safely.
Speaker 5: I think that's face.
Speaker 2: It's not like a version of a pass word, but
Speaker 2: not necessarily a word.
Speaker 5: But it's a key. Now.
Speaker 4: First, first I thought that had to do with like
Speaker 4: a UBI key. With a Ubie key is a thing
Speaker 4: that you plug into your USB port and that is
Speaker 4: the lock for all your websites. The only problem is
Speaker 4: I never used it because I knew for sure I
Speaker 4: was going to lose.
Speaker 5: It just period. I knew it.
Speaker 4: I didn't know how many I would need, but I
Speaker 4: would definitely lose it. So a lot of times, like
Speaker 4: with Chrome, you can do the thumb print to get
Speaker 4: in and out, and also on your phone when you
Speaker 4: put one of these settings that we were just talking about,
Speaker 4: like theft protection, once you've turned it on, in order
Speaker 4: to turn it off, you have to put your fingerprint
Speaker 4: down to prove that it's you turning off the theft protection.
Speaker 4: So pass keys right now are confusing. They're run by
Speaker 4: so many different companies and I don't like that because
Speaker 4: you know, that goes back to the days where you
Speaker 4: come to a new website and it says sign in
Speaker 4: with Google, sign in with Instagram, and realize that every
Speaker 4: time you're signing in with one of those websites, they
Speaker 4: have the right to all the information that you've got
Speaker 4: on those websites. So scary thought, just you know, so
Speaker 4: I just stopped, Dude, I think I did it once
Speaker 4: until I realized. But what to me is even more
Speaker 4: scary is AI that's coming out mo and we're going
Speaker 4: to have it for the holidays.
Speaker 5: It's going to scare the heck out of you.
Speaker 4: There's a new smart glasses that looks at you inward
Speaker 4: while you're looking out from them.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, say that again, Say that again.
Speaker 5: Okay, they look here. Quote.
Speaker 4: They are ones that peer inward at you rather than outward,
Speaker 4: so you can see out the glasses right, But the
Speaker 4: glasses are watching you. They're called Sense and they have
Speaker 4: a bunch of sensors in them that monitor your facial
Speaker 4: movements in real time to get your emotional state.
Speaker 3: What do I get to What do I get for that?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: What can it do for me? Once it figures out
Speaker 2: I'm angry or am I'm sad?
Speaker 4: Well, and it can also pick up subtle movements that
Speaker 4: occur when people make expressions like smiling, frowning, something like that.
Speaker 5: It can watch what you're eating.
Speaker 4: To see if you're sticking to your diet and let
Speaker 4: you know how many calories.
Speaker 5: Now again they're called this.
Speaker 2: Sounds like another spouse monitoring whatever I do. Who am
Speaker 2: I smiling at? Who am I talking to what did
Speaker 2: you eat for lunch?
Speaker 6: Two?
Speaker 5: Nightly tip the waiters when you leave.
Speaker 4: Anyway, So these are coming out and the CEO of
Speaker 4: the company was the guy who was in charge of
Speaker 4: snap the spectacles of Snapchat.
Speaker 5: That was his project.
Speaker 4: So the old goal for these glasses is mental health
Speaker 4: and dietary management. Now where the data goes, we don't
Speaker 4: really hear about that. But tracking your food consumption, I'm
Speaker 4: thinking that that's not a good thing if they sell
Speaker 4: it to your insurance company, if you're the.
Speaker 2: Only reason they would track that data is if they
Speaker 2: could use that data or sell that data.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: Also, it has a single outward facing camera that can
Speaker 4: be used to snap pictures of the food you're eating.
Speaker 2: I guess that's so that's useful in this world war,
Speaker 2: or to post our meals.
Speaker 4: Or if you eat too quickly based on the detection
Speaker 4: of choose per second.
Speaker 3: Oh damn, just let me enjoy my meal.
Speaker 5: This is coming. I think it's in November, which is
Speaker 5: coming couple weeks, coming too soon.
Speaker 4: But it's called Sense Glasses by a company called m Tech.
Speaker 4: And when I go to cees, I guarantee you I
Speaker 4: will look at it. I can promise you. I won't
Speaker 4: be bringing one home for us to play with.
Speaker 2: For me, all these new technological advances, For me, the
Speaker 2: value is in the utility. How can I use it
Speaker 2: in my life? Not not? Is it wow? Can it
Speaker 2: do wonderful things? But what can it do for me?
Speaker 2: Does it have any real usefulness in my life?
Speaker 4: That doesn't wasn't it Marshall McLuhan who named utles?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Okayles are a unit of measurement. You pay blank amount
Speaker 4: for this? How much utility you get out of that?
Speaker 4: You break those into units and you can figure out
Speaker 4: a cost basis if it's worth it to you to
Speaker 4: pay it. Do you get all the utiles the utility
Speaker 4: you need out of something? And that's an old theory.
Speaker 4: It's been around for a while, and I think more
Speaker 4: and more we're going to have to think about it,
Speaker 4: because real fast, I got to tell you about this.
Speaker 4: Gotta have this comes out November seventh from Casio.
Speaker 2: I used to love Casio, from the keyboards to their watches.
Speaker 5: I got something even better for.
Speaker 4: Caso's Casio's back and look what they're making.
Speaker 3: They look like gribils tribles. Okay, start trek triples close enough.
Speaker 5: They do.
Speaker 4: Actually, they look like guinea pigs and it's a new
Speaker 4: hypoallergenic robot pet. They've been demonstrating them in Japan and
Speaker 4: the slogan is always by your side.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go back to the utility discussion.
Speaker 2: What do they do or they just do they sense
Speaker 2: your emotions and know when you're saying and come saddle
Speaker 2: up next to you or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, funny, Yeah they do, Yeah, they do it.
Speaker 5: It's really strange.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really walk and instead wiggles in place depending
Speaker 4: on the interaction you're having with it when you open
Speaker 4: the box. It's just a baby and it learns from you.
Speaker 4: It's I know, they're selling them for roughly four hundred
Speaker 4: dollars a device in Japan.
Speaker 3: Let me guess and attracts all this data and they
Speaker 3: sells it.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: I don't know yet, but I think you can build
Speaker 4: a deeper bond with an owner through voice and gesture
Speaker 4: based recognition software. Trust is apparently earned with the toy,
Speaker 4: and it takes a few months for it to fully
Speaker 4: develop into a strange bunch of affection and emotion. It
Speaker 4: will also negative emotions if you treat it negatively, which
Speaker 4: is kind of ominous. Yeah, scary, it's awfully cute. Around
Speaker 4: day fifty, owners can fully ex their moflin to be
Speaker 4: fully matured and offer unique cooing noises and wriggling movements
Speaker 4: from a range of four million different combinations.
Speaker 3: Can we just go back to Baby Alive? Do you
Speaker 3: remember Baby Alive?
Speaker 5: The one that pooped in Pea?
Speaker 2: Yes, when life was much simpler, wasn't that simple? My
Speaker 2: sister had a baby alive.
Speaker 5: I didn't have one. I just wasn't.
Speaker 3: You had feed it and it would crap like an
Speaker 3: hour later or something.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, so cool it.
Speaker 3: Was for nineteen seventy three. Yes, it was very cool
Speaker 3: in my day.
Speaker 5: It was a chatty Kathy doll.
Speaker 3: Chatty Kathy, yeah, which you could pull the string.
Speaker 5: In the back.
Speaker 4: By the way, I have two of those going up
Speaker 4: for sale on eBay. You in box, never been played with,
Speaker 4: but yeah, this is today's chatty Kathy. Problem is only
Speaker 4: has a five hour battery life. But you said it
Speaker 4: on its little thing and it will sit in a
Speaker 4: bed like cradle and recharge.
Speaker 3: So you could charge it like overnight.
Speaker 5: Yes you could.
Speaker 4: And they're palm sized gerbils and it's way more than
Speaker 4: a Ferby.
Speaker 5: Ferbies were scary, weren't they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have a problem with mechanical furry things.
Speaker 4: Okay, well we have a mechanical dog from Japan, right,
Speaker 4: bring them in from Japan. Yes, we should bring Iebow
Speaker 4: in one week. We kind of turned Ibo off once
Speaker 4: they wanted to charge three hundred dollars a year for
Speaker 4: the Wi Fi.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that turns in like to like a veterinary.
Speaker 3: Veterinarian costs well.
Speaker 5: Then it doesn't learn.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's been twelve I think we're running
Speaker 4: out of time.
Speaker 2: Yes, look at time is Later with Mo Kelly. It's
Speaker 2: always good to see you, Marcia Carty.
Speaker 5: See you next week.
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Speaker 2: And Facebook is still a thing. When you talk about meta,
Speaker 2: that's inclusive of what's appened Instagram, But Facebook, the flagship
Speaker 2: of meta, is still really important in a variety of
Speaker 2: ways in our social media lives. But if you think
Speaker 2: about what goes on behind the scenes, what it's like
Speaker 2: to work at Meta, I'm not so sure that I
Speaker 2: would ever want to work for Mark Zuckerberg or Facebook.
Speaker 2: There's a policy that which is good on the surface,
Speaker 2: that employees are given a twenty five dollars grub Hub
Speaker 2: credit if they work past six pm. And in our business,
Speaker 2: at least just about everybody works past six pm if
Speaker 2: you had a normal nine am start. If you work
Speaker 2: in a location that does not have a cafeteria on
Speaker 2: site and you work past six pm, you're giving a
Speaker 2: twenty five dollar grub Hub credit.
Speaker 3: That's kind of cool. But here's the problem.
Speaker 2: Staffers evidently were ordering meals when they weren't even in
Speaker 2: the office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an issue.
Speaker 2: We're giving their credits to other members of staff, or
Speaker 2: we're using the credits to buy groceries and other household essentials.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Stephan, would you have.
Speaker 2: A problem with that if you were Mark Zuckerberg and
Speaker 2: you were making these twenty five dollars grub Hub credits
Speaker 2: available to staff to use. I'm saying, you know, probably
Speaker 2: at their own discretion. If you're in the office past
Speaker 2: six o'clock and there's not a cafeteria on site at
Speaker 2: your location, here's twenty five dollars to get food, and
Speaker 2: you instead use it to get toothpaste, or you give
Speaker 2: it to your you're assistant or someone else.
Speaker 3: How do you come out on that little bit odd
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how to feel about it.
Speaker 3: It's pretty weird for me.
Speaker 2: I think that you are creating more problems for your
Speaker 2: company trying to regulate grubhub credits than just letting employees
Speaker 2: be happy and use them. As it turns out, Mark
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg has fired some twenty to thirty employees because of
Speaker 2: not following that policy explicitly, some high ranking executives making
Speaker 2: more than four hundred.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars a year. I don't know if that's good business.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I disagree, homeboy. I disagree. Oh, rules or rules, Huh,
Speaker 6: It's not just rules or rules. If I have a
Speaker 6: company and I have allotted a certain amount of money.
Speaker 3: For my employees to be able to.
Speaker 6: Order food so they can stay in the office and
Speaker 6: work with a Hey, you're here, you're working late. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna take care of dinner for you, and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: leave you just say I leave you cash to take
Speaker 6: care of dinner, right right, And you then say, nah,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take that cash and put gas in my
Speaker 6: car or I'm gonna go to the movies or whatever.
Speaker 6: It's not for that, because then what you're also saying
Speaker 6: is that you're misusing the money that gave you to
Speaker 6: help you work harder and do what you're doing. Say,
Speaker 6: for instance, say, for instance, the cafeteria that we have here,
Speaker 6: if I hard made it, don't call that a cafeteria,
Speaker 6: if the little ampm snacks right, whatever you want to
Speaker 6: call it. If I hard made it so that each
Speaker 6: of us on a daily basis could go in there
Speaker 6: and get one item, just you know, work productivity, you know,
Speaker 6: morale and all that. But then I see you inviting
Speaker 6: someone up, a guest or anyone saying, hey, you can
Speaker 6: have myself. I'm like, no, it's not for a guest,
Speaker 6: is not for your friend, is not for you to
Speaker 6: take homeboard now, It's for you to be able to
Speaker 6: work here and eat that food. Otherwise, don't touch it,
Speaker 6: don't spend my money the way you want to mark.
Speaker 3: It sounds like or seems like you have a differing opinion.
Speaker 6: I didn't say anything. Look at your facial expose. Okay,
Speaker 6: all right, you face it at all. Well, here's a
Speaker 6: little here's a little whip around quiz, how much do
Speaker 6: you guys think Mark Zuckerman's net worth is burg? Oh ah, Zuckerberg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, he's like two two hundred billion, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so, if a guy who's worth two hundred billion
Speaker 6: dollars wants to micromanage what I'm spending on my food,
Speaker 6: I would probably want to separate his head from the
Speaker 6: rest of his body.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're closer to me than Tula.
Speaker 2: And this is the way I look at it from
Speaker 2: a brand perception standpoint. Yes, rules are rules, but the
Speaker 2: negative press and the negative the ill will that you
Speaker 2: engender for firing people for if we take the story
Speaker 2: of face that you assuming that they were fired specifically
Speaker 2: for that and it wasn't connected to other behavior, I
Speaker 2: think that that probably costs a company more money because
Speaker 2: you're getting rid of talent.
Speaker 3: It's not just you're getting rid of people. You're getting
Speaker 3: rid of talented people who.
Speaker 2: Have an institutional knowledge in whatever positions they have, and
Speaker 2: you're getting rid of that over twenty five dollars here,
Speaker 2: twenty five dollars here. I'm not saying it's right. I'm
Speaker 2: saying it's a very small minded view of a big
Speaker 2: picture issue.
Speaker 6: Possibly, But if on Friday night when we party and
Speaker 6: you are putting up dough for food, right, and you know,
Speaker 6: Mark Fooshi, whoever else is here, we're starving, and you say,
Speaker 6: you know what, I'm putting up the card. You all
Speaker 6: order some food and we're all going to be here
Speaker 6: and happy or whatnot?
Speaker 3: Right right?
Speaker 6: And instead of using that card to order some food,
Speaker 6: you fight out, I'm ordering movie downloads or whatever. Now
Speaker 6: I'm doing everything but what I was supposed to do
Speaker 6: with that money. And now we're still sitting here, hungry, lackluster,
Speaker 6: our performance isn't up, We're not happy or this, that
Speaker 6: and the other. You would feel some kind of way
Speaker 6: if we misuse the money that you gave us to
Speaker 6: do X, Y and z, you would not be cool
Speaker 6: with it.
Speaker 2: All right, let me take that analogy one step further,
Speaker 2: using my own mentality. Does that mean then if I
Speaker 2: had the power to and I don't, does that mean
Speaker 2: I fire the person who misused a card, and then
Speaker 2: I'm without a producer or I'm without a technical director,
Speaker 2: I'm without a news anchor. And that creates more upheaval
Speaker 2: within the show than saying, hey, guys, you can't do that.
Speaker 3: Because of X, Y and Z. Otherwise we just have
Speaker 3: to stop the practice.
Speaker 2: But it's not worth i'll say, turning the show upside
Speaker 2: down and also making my life more difficult. I think
Speaker 2: this makes it more difficult for Meta to survive. I
Speaker 2: think it's a black guy for Meta publicly after a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of black guys. I don't think being petty
Speaker 2: is going to give them the type of return that
Speaker 2: they want. Yes, rules are rules, but like for example,
Speaker 2: in our kitchen, their items, you're supposed to pay for
Speaker 2: all the items, yep, including the coffee, and people take
Speaker 2: the coffee, they don't pay for it. And I know
Speaker 2: the companies just said, okay, never mind, effort, we're not
Speaker 2: going to worry about it.
Speaker 6: Wait, we're supposed to pay for the coffee. No, not
Speaker 6: the not the coffee in the machine. People are taking
Speaker 6: coffee out the refrigerator yeah, okay, drinks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're taking that.
Speaker 2: And I know the company is aware of it because
Speaker 2: there's cameras in there, and I know they have a
Speaker 2: feeling about it, but they've made the conscious decision either
Speaker 2: let's talk to the person or let's address it on
Speaker 2: some level. But it doesn't mean that we need to
Speaker 2: fire them because it's probably more trouble than it's worth.
Speaker 6: You get one warning for stepping over that line. Stir
Speaker 6: enough you no, no, no, I'm not no. Probably this is
Speaker 6: this is facts. You get one warning for stepping over
Speaker 6: that line. You get one. Oh, I didn't know. You
Speaker 6: get one of those, and then you say, hey, man,
Speaker 6: what happened to such and such? All right, you know
Speaker 6: that's what I'm I'm no Brett Bear here, but I
Speaker 6: think I can I think I can spot a slight,
Speaker 6: a minor flaw in your analogy with with Mo in
Speaker 6: that Mo is not worth two hundred billion dollars. Okay,
Speaker 6: according to you, he lives in the taj Mahal. So
Speaker 6: what are you talking about. Well, yeah, that's for a
Speaker 6: different argument. That's a whole different set of rules that
Speaker 6: for busting on it applies. I mean, in a different context,
Speaker 6: I will bust on on Mo for living in a
Speaker 6: villa with servants and valets. But this is not that
Speaker 6: Mo is a is within the normal range of human
Speaker 6: income in the situation that we're talking about here, doucker
Speaker 6: Berg is not. You can't tell someone what to do
Speaker 6: with their money. You can't we can't care about them.
Speaker 3: We can't.
Speaker 2: But I think it's shortsighted in this type of a decision.
Speaker 2: I think it hurts the company more than the let's say,
Speaker 2: the seven hundred and fifty dollars worth a Grubhub which
Speaker 2: was misused.
Speaker 6: Look, I promise you uh to take it even further
Speaker 6: down the road that mark is going. These twenty thirty people,
Speaker 6: I'm sure they're easily replaced.
Speaker 3: He did not.
Speaker 6: He did not fire top level executives whose Facebook or
Speaker 6: Meta's very future hinges on their whims. You know what,
Speaker 6: if you all get on out of here, you take
Speaker 6: your misuse and misspending of my funds and be out
Speaker 6: of here.
Speaker 3: If if mo Kelly during his if mo.
Speaker 2: Kelly trying to defend stops broken windows, but if Kelly
Speaker 2: during his years within the record industry was up there
Speaker 2: misusing T.
Speaker 3: And E accounts, he'd be out of there. I don't
Speaker 3: care what he was doing. Only not only was I
Speaker 3: misusing it was I was. I was well, it was
Speaker 3: kind of understood.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know you're not supposed to take the CDs
Speaker 2: and sell them back to Warehouse Music.
Speaker 3: I didn't want you to tell himself.
Speaker 2: I made a lot of money taking the promo CDs
Speaker 2: with the little cutout to even show that. No, they
Speaker 2: know that it was promo CDs, and I sold them
Speaker 2: the warehouse. It made a lot of change.
Speaker 6: When when Moe has so much money that he can
Speaker 6: afford a massive survival compound in New Zealand, then I'll
Speaker 6: listen to your analogy.
Speaker 3: This is not that I think.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think rules are rules, but there should be
Speaker 2: some discretion because the company is more important than I
Speaker 2: think following every single rule. Look, there's there's letter of
Speaker 2: the law and spirit the law, and no spirit of
Speaker 2: the law is going to bring into is going to
Speaker 2: endanger the company.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Look, if you want to fire someone for stealing five cents, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's letter of the law. But the spirit of the
Speaker 2: law is it's not worth that. I think it's injurious
Speaker 2: to the company. Big picture maybe, but you also have
Speaker 2: to set an example. You cannot have habitual line steppers
Speaker 2: setting a bad example essentially stealing from the company because
Speaker 2: you are misusing the funds. The funds are for this,
Speaker 2: and you are using them for that. You're using them
Speaker 2: off site, using them for whatever leisure activity you want to.
Speaker 3: That's not what it's for if.
Speaker 6: You take petty change you go and use the petty
Speaker 6: personally what you want. I'm just saying, I'm not impersonal. No,
Speaker 6: I'm just saying to a son or something. No, I
Speaker 6: just do not think that if you're running a company,
Speaker 6: you're running a company. If you're running you know, a
Speaker 6: visit with you and your friends, just hanging out, do
Speaker 6: whatever you want. I don't care, but this is a company.
Speaker 6: This is all I want to know. Tawala, When did
Speaker 6: you become Howard Hughes surrounded by bottles of your own urine,
Speaker 6: counting the paper clips that your Mormon aids were using.
Speaker 3: This is insane that that is an apt reference. Too bad.
Speaker 3: We got to go to break paint.
Speaker 2: We got to continue this on the other side because
Speaker 2: Tuala is wrong and we need to make sure that
Speaker 2: he's beaten into the dirt. Arkadye Cam I six forty
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Speaker 3: Don't forget.
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Speaker 2: Can't wait to meet all of you. But before the break,
Speaker 2: we were talking about Meta slash Facebook, which has reportedly
Speaker 2: fired some twenty to thirty employees connected to the misuse
Speaker 2: of the twenty five dollars meal credits, which were reserved
Speaker 2: for staffers who are working past six pm in offices
Speaker 2: that don't have cafeterias on site. One of the employees
Speaker 2: said that they were working nights and weekends, nights and
Speaker 2: weekends for Meta it had spent their twenty five dollars
Speaker 2: credit on items like toothpaste and tea from right aid
Speaker 2: that was outside the boundaries as expressed and the policies
Speaker 2: and procedures code of conduct for Metta. YadA YadA, YadA,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And we've been going around in the
Speaker 2: room as far as is this too heavy handed or not.
Speaker 2: I said that yes, it violates the letter of the
Speaker 2: law and probably the spirit of the law. But if
Speaker 2: I'm Meta, I'm super sensitive to all the bad news
Speaker 2: and all the bad reporting which has been everywhere regarding
Speaker 2: Meta and Facebook, which does impact the stock price. Mark
Speaker 2: was of the opinion that Mark Zuckerberg having some two
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in the bank, he should not be
Speaker 2: worried about nickel and diming people to death. I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily subscribe to that, because how much the owner has
Speaker 2: is really neither here nor there.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about the company. Tuala has gone off
Speaker 3: on the deep end saying fire them all and maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, send them to jail.
Speaker 6: He's got a little bit of an authoritarian streak that
Speaker 6: I never picked up on before.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: Look, I hate to get all I hate to get
Speaker 6: all Scrooge McDuck on you, but no, I don't don't
Speaker 6: count my dollars and cents. If I tell you that
Speaker 6: this fund is for you to do X, Y and z,
Speaker 6: then you do X, Y and Z with it. Do not.
Speaker 6: I do not want to find out that you've been
Speaker 6: misappropriating funds that I have supplied. I have a bottom line,
Speaker 6: and from that bottom line, if I am trying to
Speaker 6: make work life better, not your home life, not your
Speaker 6: personal life. If I'm trying to make work life better.
Speaker 6: Then that's what the funds are for. If I find
Speaker 6: out that you're misusing that, there's very little I will
Speaker 6: borrow from Trump. But I'm borrowing this.
Speaker 3: You fi it? Waitit, wait minute.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that when we had T and E
Speaker 2: back in the music business and we were using it
Speaker 2: for radio programmers taking them to strip clubs and take
Speaker 2: them to the bunny ranch, that was inappropriate.
Speaker 6: That was very inappropriate. That was that was highly highly inappropriate.
Speaker 6: Good sir, Oh okay, I was just wondering toiler, which
Speaker 6: Charles Dickens character, would you say that you actually are?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm definitely not Bob Crackett.
Speaker 6: No, no, you're not tiny choices there No, Look, I understand.
Speaker 6: Let the ghost come and visit me. You know what
Speaker 6: they will say, Hey, Twala, you really took care of
Speaker 6: your employees.
Speaker 3: But you know what you also did.
Speaker 6: You took care of your bottom line and made sure
Speaker 6: your company stayed afloat, and you fired those free loading
Speaker 6: users who were trying to bleed you dry. Yeah, because
Speaker 6: obviously Facebook is struggling to make ends meet. We don't
Speaker 6: know what Facebook is struggling to do. We don't know
Speaker 6: what they're doing. I think I.
Speaker 2: Don't follow their stock well from their public financial reports,
Speaker 2: they're doing pretty damn well. Oh well, then they can
Speaker 2: do without this twenty thirty free loaders. Bye, they can
Speaker 2: do it that. Good bye. What about the institution knowledge,
Speaker 2: Because from what I understand, these are varying levels of
Speaker 2: employment within the company executives down to the assistant level.
Speaker 2: You still actually you've incurred more of a cost trying
Speaker 2: to replace them, I know that for a fact.
Speaker 6: Possibly, And you know what's always waiting in the wings
Speaker 6: at a company like a Facebook, hell, even at iHeartRadio.
Speaker 6: Someone else who wants to take your spot always okay, also,
Speaker 6: so trust to believe there's always someone who wants to
Speaker 6: take your spot, who's waiting for you to mess up. Okay,
Speaker 6: If you don't have time for half step in and shenanigans,
Speaker 6: you don't, you know what, find yourself out of here,
Speaker 6: find yourself on the chow line and maybe using that
Speaker 6: grub Hub credit that you've been stealing from me.
Speaker 3: Letala Trump in the.
Speaker 6: Building, Kuala Trump, you mean Tuala Hitler? Who else used that?
Speaker 6: Rules are rules? I just said to Wala Trump, I
Speaker 6: didn't like you to the worst person. I'm just saying
Speaker 6: like that world history and Bark is taking this not
Speaker 6: a personal Well look, i mean at the point where
Speaker 6: you say, don't worry about people, don't make more of them. Look,
Speaker 6: that's what that's where the Hitlert job. This is a
Speaker 6: this is a this is a strict business. If you
Speaker 6: are not worried about your bottom line, why are you
Speaker 6: in business? If you are not worried about keeping your
Speaker 6: company afloat, if you are not mining the dollars, all
Speaker 6: of the cents will roll right out.
Speaker 2: Okay, company, all right, you know, let me say this
Speaker 2: one point. We have a supply room back in the back. Okay,
Speaker 2: we can get pins and and paper and that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. And I'm quite sure people take more than
Speaker 2: their fair share of stuff and take it home, not
Speaker 2: because I've done it, but because I've done it.
Speaker 6: What's the statute of limitations on office supply? Right?
Speaker 3: Office supply?
Speaker 2: So that, to follow your analogy, would be impacting the
Speaker 2: bottom line. If I'm taking extra reams of paper for
Speaker 2: by printer at home, you gotta go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, really, old Tawala Hitler says, you gotta go.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let me let me just tell Robin
Speaker 2: right now that she's gonna have to somehow replace because
Speaker 2: tomorrow I'm not going to be here because I took
Speaker 2: some extra paper.
Speaker 6: They don't grow post it notes on trees. MO, you
Speaker 6: can't just take those. Look if Jack in the Box
Speaker 6: is not charging a quarter for those damn ranch dressings,
Speaker 6: the people that the cashers, they're just gonna start giving
Speaker 6: them away, and me as the own they do, Me
Speaker 6: as the franchise owner who has to pay for that.
Speaker 6: That comes out of my bottom line. You don't get
Speaker 6: to give away free ranches. I said, charge a quarter
Speaker 6: for those ranches. Damn it. Charge a quarter for those
Speaker 6: ranches if you're good to bring ranch into it. I
Speaker 6: I'm out of arguments against it. Twala Hitler serious about
Speaker 6: the ranch?
Speaker 3: What's sad?
Speaker 6: As?
Speaker 2: He's absolutely serious. I'm not joking, dead serious. Oh I'm
Speaker 2: glad I'm not sitting next to him right now. I'd
Speaker 2: be afraid. I'm so SMA.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't mess around with this, so it's steal
Speaker 6: it for me. You're gone in a hard Is it.
Speaker 2: Stealing if they've you've already relinquished it, and instead of
Speaker 2: using it for grubhub to get funions, they got toothpaste
Speaker 2: really really, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 6: Using it off company the company site. You're not using
Speaker 6: it for what it's there for. Rules are rules because
Speaker 6: of that, because that's why bring your own damn lunch.
Speaker 6: You don't need my money. And then if you're not
Speaker 6: gonna use my money, bring your.
Speaker 2: Side with Mark, because we know that doesn't work both ways,
Speaker 2: because you then have companies which take advantage of employees
Speaker 2: they're working more than forty hours a week. I told
Speaker 2: you about the person who's working weekends and nights in
Speaker 2: excess of.
Speaker 3: Whatever their salary base is.
Speaker 2: And then you're gonna say you're fired for using your grubhub.
Speaker 3: Okay, look for toothpaste.
Speaker 6: Look, we don't know if this person is working in
Speaker 6: excess of the hours you say, like they're not getting paid,
Speaker 6: like they're off the clock.
Speaker 3: No one's coming in on the weekends, off the clock.
Speaker 6: Radio they are. Look if you're coming in off the
Speaker 6: clock on rady. You know what we're doing. We are
Speaker 6: trying to get what mo ahead. We are trying to
Speaker 6: show improve we are trying to stake our claim in
Speaker 6: the game.
Speaker 3: Give an extra to the company that they did not
Speaker 3: actually pay you for.
Speaker 6: You know, hell, welcome to the industry. Welcome to life.
Speaker 6: When it comes to Grand Theft Ranch. That's where Tula
Speaker 6: puts his foot down, isn't it look at the time
Speaker 6: I look at it.
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