Speaker 1: Shattttt the name.
Speaker 2: Here putting we got some want or something growing out here.
Speaker 3: I can't go, but I know I did my donor
Speaker 3: light came on and.
Speaker 4: I did that.
Speaker 2: But they left and they did thing running across the yard.
Speaker 2: Not a good sight, may or nothing. I look like
Speaker 2: a man. I don't know what I was right across
Speaker 2: the yard.
Speaker 1: It seems to be a big put leaning against the
Speaker 1: tree in a wooden area.
Speaker 4: I have seen plenty of people with big feet, but
Speaker 4: not bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Three mines in Rush, he sees about a seven and
Speaker 2: seven and a half foot tall fast watch looking back
Speaker 2: at him, and it kind of looks like a wolf,
Speaker 2: but not like a neighborhood dog. Pick these stores for
Speaker 2: what they are and hopes that maybe if it's out there,
Speaker 2: then't show me. Yeah, and says he might have caught
Speaker 2: the mythical Cuba Cabra creature terrorizing his chickens. It's like
Speaker 2: a grunt and a knock. It's like a oh. I
Speaker 2: think there's kind of a cultural tendency for people to
Speaker 2: want to make big Foot a quote unquote monster. Welcome
Speaker 2: to e c b r O Bigfoot Radio. Hey guys, welcome, everybody. Hi,
Speaker 2: So Tonight is the first time that I've done a
Speaker 2: live broadcast in a long time, although this will be
Speaker 2: part of the ECBO Big for Radio Real quick, I
Speaker 2: do want to say I throw it out there. I
Speaker 2: am getting feedback from somebody who does not have a
Speaker 2: mic or anything plugged in. So usually if you don't
Speaker 2: have a mic plugged in or a headset, that's usually
Speaker 2: the one I'm getting feedback from. I don't know who
Speaker 2: that might be. It doesn't give me no, it doesn't
Speaker 2: let me know who it is. So I just know
Speaker 2: that I'm hearing a bunch of sound and talking while
Speaker 2: I talk. So okay, okay, no problem. I just wanted
Speaker 2: to put that out there because that was I hear
Speaker 2: it a lot. I don't know if anyone else here.
Speaker 2: I get a lot of mine in so uh but
Speaker 2: it's all good though. Well, I'm sure he'll be back
Speaker 2: in here shortly. Yeah, all you had to do was
Speaker 2: all he had to do was hit mute on his end.
Speaker 2: We all everybody has the ability to new himself. So yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm able to new people too. But now I'm
Speaker 2: getting feedback again. I'm still hearing it.
Speaker 3: I gotta get a mute button from my wife.
Speaker 2: Well, I won't tell her you said that. Hopefully she
Speaker 2: didn't hear you. But that's right. She's not here, that's right,
Speaker 2: she's out shopping. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was telling Dan earlier Linda that I'm under the
Speaker 3: weather a little bit. I've been sick for two three days.
Speaker 3: So you have to stomach problems and a head stuffed up,
Speaker 3: and I'm feeling hot and cold, hot and cold. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is. But I went up the mountains,
Speaker 3: I was telling him a few days ago, and while
Speaker 3: I was there, Brian Seech message me on a messager.
Speaker 3: He wanted to get a bio from you for the
Speaker 3: thing on May seventeenth. So I was up in the
Speaker 3: middle of the woods six inches of snow on the ground.
Speaker 3: The reason my rear in off i'd get him the bioe.
Speaker 3: So I took care of that. But yeah, so you
Speaker 3: so here. I am stuck in the house. I've been
Speaker 3: outside all day. You know, I don't plan on going
Speaker 3: out tonight.
Speaker 4: Sorry to hear that. Can't keep a good man down there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and just let you guys know, since we
Speaker 2: are live today and we are on YouTube, I am
Speaker 2: watching the comments. At least I'm gonna watch him for
Speaker 2: the best of my ability. Hold on, I gotta try
Speaker 2: something out here, all right. So yeah, yeah, I muted you,
Speaker 2: Linda because I wanted to try something out and it's
Speaker 2: silenced to what I was hearing. So I think part
Speaker 2: of my interference was coming from you. So you might
Speaker 2: if you have a headset or earbuds, if you can
Speaker 2: plug them in, that will eliminate that. So there you go.
Speaker 2: I got you unmuted right now. So so could you
Speaker 2: hear me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, you can mute me.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I don't want to, like when we get
Speaker 2: into our yeah, when we get into our discussion and everything,
Speaker 2: I want to to be careful. So I don't want to, like,
Speaker 2: if if John's talking, I'll go ahead and mute you.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean we all again, we all
Speaker 2: have the ability to mute ourselves. So all you have
Speaker 2: to do is hit the microphone option on your screen.
Speaker 3: So the only way, the only way you can mute
Speaker 3: mem is you can have duct takes.
Speaker 4: That comes in many colors.
Speaker 3: That's Bill Rigby about Bill. Are dan you heard me talk?
Speaker 3: I can talk for days?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's funny Bill Rigby. Bill Rigby,
Speaker 2: we briefly brought that up and made mention of that.
Speaker 2: Bill called me early today when I was at work.
Speaker 2: I just don't happen to be on my lunch break.
Speaker 2: If I wasn't, if I wasn't on my lunch break,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have answered my phone, but I would. I
Speaker 2: just happen to be on lunch break at work. And Bill, well,
Speaker 2: he wanted to talk to me about something I can't
Speaker 2: remember ere Oh no, it's because I made a correction
Speaker 2: on he He had a post about the events that
Speaker 2: he's appearing at and the event down here in Virginia.
Speaker 2: In my event, he had completely wrong spelling of the location,
Speaker 2: so I typed it in the comments. And so that's
Speaker 2: what he was calling me about. And then we mentioned
Speaker 2: something about Yeah, he says, yeah, I don't know, bunk.
Speaker 2: Story short. He mentioned you and talking and.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, you know, here's the thing about this.
Speaker 3: You know, I was just talking to Dan before he
Speaker 3: came on, and about people who are used in this
Speaker 3: genre to line your pockets with money and try to
Speaker 3: get put notaride in things of this nature. And for
Speaker 3: those of us who have had real experiences and stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't mind anybody who want to write
Speaker 3: a book. That's fine, but don't use it to just
Speaker 3: line your pockets and make money, just like a lot
Speaker 3: of these shows on TV. Okay, you know they I
Speaker 3: mean personally, here's what I want. Two things. I want
Speaker 3: to big foot bounds and listed on the Endangered Species Act.
Speaker 3: I don't want it killed. And two I want once
Speaker 3: they find it, all these other crazy things on TV
Speaker 3: can go away. Maybe they'll get into another genre. I
Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe well they already got the ghost things
Speaker 3: going on. But uh, you know, I just it makes
Speaker 3: me upset because, like I said, I've been doing this
Speaker 3: for a very very long time. You know, I've put
Speaker 3: my life on the line many times to do this,
Speaker 3: you know, and I know I can't. I can't. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't not go out into the field. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm drawing to go out there. You know. I've seen
Speaker 3: them at least for maybe sick I'm not sure about
Speaker 3: the last week. But uh, you know, once you see
Speaker 3: these things, like Linda, you saw what you saw, okay,
Speaker 3: you changed your life, your whole outlook on reality Okay,
Speaker 3: And the last thing you want to do is have
Speaker 3: somebody come on here like they did with you and
Speaker 3: try to give you the blues and stuff, and for
Speaker 3: that that really ticked me off, by the way. That
Speaker 3: really did take me off, you know. But you know,
Speaker 3: the thing is is those of us that know who
Speaker 3: you are and what you're about, we believe in you,
Speaker 3: thank you. We know you're the real deal. Just like Dan,
Speaker 3: Dan and I were on Dan and I went on
Speaker 3: a case together, you know, and we know. You know
Speaker 3: us how I am when I go out, I know
Speaker 3: how he is when he goes out. Okay, And here
Speaker 3: I consider I'm a good friend as I do you. Okay.
Speaker 3: And the thing is is I just want to get answers.
Speaker 3: I can tell you first hand. I better watch what.
Speaker 3: I don't want to keep talking over everybody, but I
Speaker 3: want to just say this initially, I don't believe Bigfoot
Speaker 3: is a dumb animal. I don't believe it's a I
Speaker 3: think it's something else. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: It's intelligent, it's self aware. Okay. It does have a
Speaker 3: rudimentary type of language, I believe. Okay, it's not a
Speaker 3: Harminid as we know them, because it has eyeshine. Okay,
Speaker 3: what I saw had eye shine. No primate on this
Speaker 3: planet has eyeshine. What it is, where it comes from,
Speaker 3: how long it's been here, I don't know. All I
Speaker 3: know is what I saw, and it changed me forever.
Speaker 3: And just so you know, I didn't get into this
Speaker 3: paranormal field to be a bigfoot researcher. That just happened
Speaker 3: to come along. What happened was I was into UFOs
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, Okay, but more cases I go
Speaker 3: and investigate. People were talking about seeing bigfoot in conjunction
Speaker 3: close proximity to a landed UFO or a hovering UFO,
Speaker 3: so it kind of piqued my interest in Back in
Speaker 3: ninety one, I went on a case down Murray Day.
Speaker 3: Two of them followed me out of the woods with
Speaker 3: thirteen witnesses too, juveniles. That's what started this whole thing.
Speaker 3: So I really don't want to be known primarily as
Speaker 3: a bigfoot invest together. I'm a paranormal investigator. And the
Speaker 3: other thing I want to say that I'm going to
Speaker 3: shut my mouth and listen for a while is that
Speaker 3: there's no such thing as an expert in this spill.
Speaker 3: I don't care what anybody says, Okay.
Speaker 2: For yourself, John, I'm just joking.
Speaker 3: We're all we are all seekers of the unknown, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's all we are. An expert is by definition, somebody
Speaker 3: knows what the heck they're talking about. Basically, all I
Speaker 3: know is what I saw. I'm an experiencer like you are, Linda,
Speaker 3: like you are, Dan. Okay, we don't know what these
Speaker 3: things are, but I gotta tell you something. One more thing,
Speaker 3: I promise. I think that the moth man and Bigfoot
Speaker 3: and other type cryptis are kind of connected.
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree. How haarded me?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you would think I never thought about that.
Speaker 2: I never thought about that. However, I mean they I
Speaker 2: don't know much about the you know, the moth maan itself.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like it seems like West Virginia is
Speaker 2: the main location. However, there's other similar creatures have seen
Speaker 2: it has been seen elsewhere. And but what that means
Speaker 2: said in the same general uh, you know, areas where
Speaker 2: there's been big p sidon. So you know, it kind
Speaker 2: of seems like, well, okay, they inhabit the same general
Speaker 2: areas apparently, I mean, which is kind of interesting.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, you know, when we you and I
Speaker 3: we went down on the case by Mingo Park. We
Speaker 3: were looking what was called we believed to be a
Speaker 3: puck wedgie.
Speaker 2: Okay, ah, yeah, yeah, remember that.
Speaker 3: And I actually just saw something on Facebook today was
Speaker 3: a real and it showed a chimpanzee taking an animal
Speaker 3: and shaking it violently to death. Okay, that's exactly what
Speaker 3: that gentleman down here described he saw with that wild turkey.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: But what I'm getting at, I guess, is that, uh
Speaker 3: there's a I think there's a connection. And I don't
Speaker 3: know about as much about Mothman as Linda does, but
Speaker 3: I did meet John Killed many many years ago at
Speaker 3: Laguardi Airport in New York. And what a lot of
Speaker 3: people don't know because they watched the movie The Mothman Prophecies,
Speaker 3: John explained to me that there's a lot of UFO
Speaker 3: sightings in that area, a lot. And Linda, you told
Speaker 3: me yourself, and I'll let you tell the story about it,
Speaker 3: But uh, there's a connection with that as well.
Speaker 2: Up there.
Speaker 3: I went down there two years ago with my wife
Speaker 3: on my second investigation to that preserve, and I'll just
Speaker 3: leave it at that, and I'm just gonna shut up
Speaker 3: for a while, so you guys can call.
Speaker 4: Me no, pase go on.
Speaker 3: Well, now you know that preserve is it should be.
Speaker 3: It's a preserve. Okay, there's a bunch of bunkers there
Speaker 3: and stuff. Now my wife is afraid to get out
Speaker 3: of the car, but you know me, Dan, I'm not
Speaker 3: afraid of anything. So I got out and I walked
Speaker 3: into every one of the bunkers and I had this
Speaker 3: real powerful spotlight. I have it right here in fact,
Speaker 3: and it's and I had a part. You've seen my
Speaker 3: walkie talkies, which are basically handheld CBS.
Speaker 2: Right now, Joy, John, I want to interrupt you real
Speaker 2: quick because for those who are listening, I want to
Speaker 2: give everybody the opportunity because again i'm watching the live chat.
Speaker 2: I've got the chat section open up on my screen,
Speaker 2: So anybody that's listening, if you have questions for John
Speaker 2: or Linda or anything at all in general, please comment
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Speaker 2: make sure they see those questions. I'll actually pull it
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Speaker 2: So and also, well, real quick, I want to throw
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Speaker 2: what we're here for. That's one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: we're live today. We want some interaction from the audience.
Speaker 2: And again I'll address it to my guests today. So
Speaker 2: I'll with that being said, I'm gonna shut up now
Speaker 2: and try it back over to John. I'm gonna mute myself.
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, anyhow, so we go up there, we went
Speaker 3: down here. I was there three days in Point Pleasant.
Speaker 3: We stayed actually across the river, and we went out
Speaker 3: there and stuff three days in a row. And it uh,
Speaker 3: you know, it was a well, I guess it was
Speaker 3: a summertime around July, and I you know, I went
Speaker 3: into all these bunkers and nothing that was unusual there.
Speaker 3: One of the things was unusual was I didn't see
Speaker 3: not one animal, not a bug, not a frog at
Speaker 3: that green ass pond was down there. Nothing, not deer, nothing.
Speaker 3: But I went into the last bunker. Now you as
Speaker 3: you know, Linda, they're rounded. They're rounded like this, like
Speaker 3: an igloop. So I got in the last bunker. The
Speaker 3: minute I stepped inside, my life quit working on my
Speaker 3: CB quit working. Okay, the other ones that didn't do that.
Speaker 3: This was the closest bunker to where my wife was
Speaker 3: sitting in the car, about one hundred and fifty yards away. Okay,
Speaker 3: So I thought that was unusual. And while I was there,
Speaker 3: a man came looking for his dog. He said his
Speaker 3: dog went into this preserve. He's never seen it since.
Speaker 3: So he asked if we could help him. So we
Speaker 3: went looking for it, couldn't find it. But the thing is,
Speaker 3: I'm getting out It was the stillness of this area,
Speaker 3: how still it was. It should have been taking me
Speaker 3: with deer and bugs and frogs at that. You know
Speaker 3: that pond is real big. It's pretty good side had
Speaker 3: green slime on it, and every now else she'd have
Speaker 3: been frogged something out. The only thing was kind of
Speaker 3: funny toward the end, when I was getting ready to leave,
Speaker 3: is I walked up to the car and bike my
Speaker 3: wife did see a moth on a moth. Now that's
Speaker 3: the second investigation I went down on. Now, the first
Speaker 3: one I went was many many years ago by myself.
Speaker 3: Then I didn't see anything either, But it was the
Speaker 3: same kind of scenario down there. Okay, I walked. I
Speaker 3: was a lot younger then, so I mean, we're talking listen,
Speaker 3: I'm an old part. What can I tell you? But uh,
Speaker 3: I walked around the whole place back then. I didn't
Speaker 3: see anything or hear anything. But that kind of raised
Speaker 3: a question to me. I should have seen something, you understand,
Speaker 3: with a park with an area that big, there should
Speaker 3: have been some kind of life up there. But there
Speaker 3: was nothing. It was like everything was still, and as
Speaker 3: you know, if you have a bear in the woods,
Speaker 3: everything's quiet. Okay, you don't hear anything for the bear
Speaker 3: in the wood or some other predator in the wood.
Speaker 3: Yet there was a note or a sound. Now, Linda
Speaker 3: had talked. We talked, Lynda. When I talked before about this,
Speaker 3: you said you saw mothman close with the UFO above. Correct. Yes, Okay, Now,
Speaker 3: some of the accounts I've read it than mock men.
Speaker 3: We're talking about UFO's in that area over a period
Speaker 3: of time. That it's a pretty isolated area too. So
Speaker 3: here's what I think and Linda, I don't think the
Speaker 3: creature is supernatural first of all, meaning I don't think
Speaker 3: it's a spirit. Okay. Uh, I know some people might
Speaker 3: disagree with me. A while back on the History Channel,
Speaker 3: I saw a couple who went down here that got
Speaker 3: on the History Channel channel said this thing followed him
Speaker 3: back home. It was spirit like.
Speaker 4: I saw that too.
Speaker 3: I don't buy that.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Is this thing's tangible? You can touch it? Not that
Speaker 3: I wanted, you know, but if I had to, I would,
Speaker 3: I'd give a hell I'd take that. But uh, the
Speaker 3: thing is is that this is a real thing. Now,
Speaker 3: my question is this to you both. Do you think
Speaker 3: it's possible that the UFO bite come here? It might
Speaker 3: be they're letting out one of their beings. Okay from
Speaker 3: what the walkman look like. Okay, well, if you know
Speaker 3: anything about biology, and I do. You have to have
Speaker 3: a certain sized wing to lift up a certain sized body. Now,
Speaker 3: birds have hollow bones. That's why they can fly and
Speaker 3: glide everything else.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: The biggest creatures ever flew was a questal cootis had
Speaker 3: a thirty to thirty six to forty foot wingspan, but
Speaker 3: it had hollow bones. What you saw and they had
Speaker 3: ten twelve foot wings. Yes, okay, did you have to
Speaker 3: notice it was wrapping its wings?
Speaker 4: No, it put its wings straight back. I have flying
Speaker 4: squirrels here. This is the first time this year that
Speaker 4: I've seen them up close. And those things cannot only
Speaker 4: fly down, they can fly up and they just that's
Speaker 4: kind of weird because that's exactly what it did. It
Speaker 4: put its wings back and went up, just like one
Speaker 4: of those fine squirrels.
Speaker 3: You know what It puts me in mind of Do
Speaker 3: you ever see do you ever see the movie Jeepers Creepers?
Speaker 4: I know of it.
Speaker 2: No, oh, yes, yeah, that's the wings.
Speaker 3: Just what I'm getting at as far as it if
Speaker 3: when it pays the car, you will in Okay, it
Speaker 3: had to it had to some kind of have some
Speaker 3: kind of other propulsion to move it forward. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying it clan glide, but what I'm getting at, let's
Speaker 3: let's just say this for the sake argument. Maybe it
Speaker 3: had some type of an antid gravity device around its
Speaker 3: waist that nullified gravity, so the wings so it was
Speaker 3: up in the air. But the wings were the Ford propulsion, okay,
Speaker 3: or the upward propulsion or downward propulsion. But the gravity
Speaker 3: u nullify itself can keep it above the ground. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm thinking. And if it was seen a conjunction
Speaker 3: with the UFO could be extra first for your nature, okay,
Speaker 3: or maybe inder dimensional. I don't know, but I can
Speaker 3: tell from the parents I've read from talking to you, Linda,
Speaker 3: I believe this creature is real. I believe you saw it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, you know, Okay, anybody else you know, here's
Speaker 3: the thing about that. You know, you got a lot
Speaker 3: of naysayers out there in the world, Okay. That the
Speaker 3: reason adult is they're on the phone all the time.
Speaker 3: They're not looking to see anything. If you don't look,
Speaker 3: dwan As, you know, you're not going to see. Okay.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's by luck you see things, but you have
Speaker 3: to look. You have to use your eyeballs to look
Speaker 3: and see that's why we get out in the woods,
Speaker 3: That's why we do what we do. Okay, But the
Speaker 3: thing is like, if I were to tell people before
Speaker 3: there was a fish that lifts sixty five million years
Speaker 3: ago called the Cela camp and they found them alive.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be a think They found them in
Speaker 3: the Indian Ocean swimming around recently. Again, how about the
Speaker 3: platterfut If you didn't know about a platyput and you
Speaker 3: don't have access to the psycomputer the internet, and I
Speaker 3: said to you, Hey, there's a creature that's got the
Speaker 3: bill of a duct, it's got fur and lays eggs,
Speaker 3: and tail of a bee and poison tip claws, and
Speaker 3: you didn't know any better, what you'd say to me?
Speaker 3: Quit drinking? Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 4: Know all I know. I take a lot of flap
Speaker 4: And at first it bothered me quite a bit, But
Speaker 4: then I can't I can't help but remember back when
Speaker 4: before this happened, even though I was very young when
Speaker 4: it did happen, if somebody would have told me about
Speaker 4: stuff like that, or you know, they had seen something
Speaker 4: like that, I would have gone, oh you're nuts. You
Speaker 4: know a lot of times you have to experience it
Speaker 4: or you know, you have to go out in the field,
Speaker 4: you have to go look. I just happened to be
Speaker 4: out riding around with my boyfriend. Yes, we were looking,
Speaker 4: but we didn't really think we're going to find that,
Speaker 4: you know, but a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, yeah, I have one for whatever. I have
Speaker 2: it on the screen if anyone's seen it. But there's
Speaker 2: a less you're not here. Yeah, Virginia crypt and paranallel research.
Speaker 2: This is David Lester asking what was or is the
Speaker 2: purpose of the bunkers.
Speaker 3: You want to take it out.
Speaker 4: Well, during World War Two that was a munition's factory
Speaker 4: and they made T and T for the bombs for
Speaker 4: the war, and they stored them in those bunkers. Well,
Speaker 4: they made them look almost like an Indian mound, in
Speaker 4: the fact that you can't stand from the air. If
Speaker 4: you fly over, you might think, oh that's an Indian
Speaker 4: mound or just amount of dirt, but a nctuality. It's
Speaker 4: a bunker that stored that TNT. And not too many
Speaker 4: years ago, I don't know, maybe it was in the
Speaker 4: late nineties one of them blew up. It had still
Speaker 4: stored in it and it exploded, and so they came
Speaker 4: down and they had to clear all that out, clean
Speaker 4: it all out. But the ones that they have open
Speaker 4: now and you can just go down there, and the
Speaker 4: entrance into a lot of them is just covered with
Speaker 4: moss and vines and all kinds of sticks and stuff.
Speaker 4: But there's a door there. Usually it's a jar, and
Speaker 4: you go in, and the acoustics in that place is
Speaker 4: out of this world. That there's graffiti all over the
Speaker 4: walls and everything, but that's where they stored the TNT
Speaker 4: in I don't know what, in very big cans or
Speaker 4: you know, containers, And yeah, I was told I was
Speaker 4: told a few years ago that there are tunnels from
Speaker 4: the TNT area that reach all the way to the
Speaker 4: river where they used to move that stuff and no
Speaker 4: one even knew they were going it and put it
Speaker 4: on boats and it was shipped out of there. Because
Speaker 4: that was one of the questions I always had with
Speaker 4: that building that the Mothman was seen in. That's one
Speaker 4: of the buildings that, you know, where they made it.
Speaker 4: They had all kinds of You can go online and
Speaker 4: and uh uh research that and see pictures of the
Speaker 4: old buildings that were down there.
Speaker 3: I know that they had a special on true not
Speaker 3: that long ago, maybe a month or so, where they
Speaker 3: showed some people in those underground someone you were talking about.
Speaker 3: When I saw the film, you know, footage, and it
Speaker 3: seemed like there was something down there living down in there. Okay,
Speaker 3: it wasn't as big as the mof Man, but it
Speaker 3: was something otherworldly living living down there. So that gives
Speaker 3: credence to what you're saying as far as the tunnel's
Speaker 3: going down to the river, and it makes this more
Speaker 3: in the water, makes a lot of time. Now, I
Speaker 3: will say this though. Now I know that the Silver
Speaker 3: Bridge collapsed and they said somebody said they saw a
Speaker 3: creature like the Mofman on the Silver Bridge and they
Speaker 3: they say it's a harbinger of death or tragedy or something.
Speaker 2: Think.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. Uh maybe I don't think
Speaker 3: it caused a bridge to clap the bridge collapse because
Speaker 3: it was antiquated and he worked on on it. You know,
Speaker 3: it's unfortunate. Everybody knows. Allest people lost their lives, God
Speaker 3: bless them. But yeah, I don't think the moth Man
Speaker 3: had a direct influence on that whatsoever. If it was there,
Speaker 3: it was there, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I agree because I think it was a
Speaker 2: coincidence that they it was started in the area and
Speaker 2: the bridge gave loot gave way, you know.
Speaker 3: But you know, I was thinking about this background again
Speaker 3: this summer sometime. I have others to go to and such,
Speaker 3: and you know, and uh, I plan on going down
Speaker 3: to the visit Landa with my wife down that way.
Speaker 3: So while we're down that way, I'm gonna go down
Speaker 3: and check things out again, because I got about three
Speaker 3: thousand dollars worth of the quitt in my bot to
Speaker 3: go in here and do some stuff a dp meters
Speaker 3: and things of this nature, laser pointers, the work.
Speaker 2: But John, you need to bring that. You need to
Speaker 2: bring that down to Virginia during my camp out and
Speaker 2: stop trying to hide from my camp out.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing I've been I've been invited by
Speaker 3: Doug Lockhart to go up on Chestnut Ridge up on
Speaker 3: the mountains out there with his group because I'm a
Speaker 3: member his group and one of the group experts. I
Speaker 3: hate to use that term expert, but.
Speaker 2: Hey, I love I love Doug, but he ain't nothing special.
Speaker 2: I'm just joking. I'm thinking I'm piking.
Speaker 3: I talked to Bill as well about I want to
Speaker 3: go out to Salt Fork and do about a week
Speaker 3: long investigation out there. Now my wife wouldn't go, of course,
Speaker 3: but I would go, you know. Uh, but I want
Speaker 3: to go out there because they call it the grass Man,
Speaker 3: but it's basically a big points right, you know. But uh,
Speaker 3: I want to hear more of what Well Linda has
Speaker 3: to say about what her experience was with from Mothman.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be talking taking.
Speaker 2: Up Well before we go any further, because I got
Speaker 2: another question up on the screen right here. Well, they're
Speaker 2: saying I heard him often shows up higher to disasters,
Speaker 2: which I've heard that myself so or possibly given a warning.
Speaker 2: Now that's something I've heard on documentaries and other things
Speaker 2: along the way. What do you what are you what's
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that? Linda?
Speaker 4: Well, what I have found and of the people that
Speaker 4: were still living that were experiencing Mothman back in the
Speaker 4: days when I did in the sixties, I found a
Speaker 4: lot of us are related and we have I'm seven
Speaker 4: generations from Chief Cornstock and some of those people are
Speaker 4: too either that or they have Native American backgrounds. Even
Speaker 4: closer you know, the thing could have hurt me let's
Speaker 4: just put it that way. It could have hurt me
Speaker 4: and it didn't. So I think that, if anything, it
Speaker 4: was fought here to it knew something was going to happen.
Speaker 4: And I think it came with the aliens. I know
Speaker 4: this is all this is all crazy, but this is
Speaker 4: what happened. And I think it came here with the aliens,
Speaker 4: and if anything, it came to warn the people that
Speaker 4: something was going to happen. And if it was above
Speaker 4: the bridge, maybe it knew something. The men in block
Speaker 4: certainly knew something. They were hanging around down there in
Speaker 4: Point bless them all those days before we worked before,
Speaker 4: and they wouldn't leave Mary Higher alone. She was the
Speaker 4: woman that worked for the Athens Messenger, which had an
Speaker 4: office down there in gallip Liss. They wouldn't leave her alone.
Speaker 4: They drove her about halfway crazy.
Speaker 3: I would be I would be interested to know when
Speaker 3: the markman was seen on the Silver Bridge. We're exactly
Speaker 3: on the Silver Bridge as you've seen, and was that
Speaker 3: area one of the ones that collapsed first?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a good question. Someone just told
Speaker 4: me that it had been seen on the top, but
Speaker 4: that could have been anywhere. But I didn't feel when
Speaker 4: I encountered it. I didn't feel like it was there
Speaker 4: to hurt me. If anything, I felt chosen or you know,
Speaker 4: even protected. But uh, there's no doubt in my mind
Speaker 4: that it came with that UFO, none whatsoever, because it
Speaker 4: was right there under it.
Speaker 3: And well, the description to the description of the moth man,
Speaker 3: I've seen it varies a lot, you know, I've seen
Speaker 3: pictures of you know, people make the mothman statues and
Speaker 3: the one that's down to point pleasant such. But I
Speaker 3: would be interested if you would draw, if you could
Speaker 3: actually draw, unless you maybe already have one. You've drawn
Speaker 3: a picture of what you saw, so see how it
Speaker 3: cons dies with the actual statue they have down here. Okay, yeah, all.
Speaker 4: It's a glamour eze for you know. The thing that
Speaker 4: I encountered was about probably about seven feet tall or
Speaker 4: see I was little. I didn't I was about five
Speaker 4: foot tall and weighed about one hundred pounds at the most.
Speaker 4: But it had black skin, smooth, almost like lizard skin.
Speaker 4: Now you know, when I was regressed, I learned that
Speaker 4: the thing picked me up off the ground, and so
Speaker 4: it had hold of me, and I remember seeing its hands.
Speaker 4: It had hands like a man. I didn't really notice
Speaker 4: so much of its fingernails, but it had it picked
Speaker 4: me up with one arm. So I know that what
Speaker 4: I saw for just a brief instance when it got
Speaker 4: old of me, and then when it flew in front
Speaker 4: of the car, that it had wings more like a bat.
Speaker 4: It had it had the the stuff underneath like a
Speaker 4: bat has that flesh underneath it connects it. But it
Speaker 4: had arms, it had legs, it had feet. It didn't
Speaker 4: have feathers that I saw if it had feathers on
Speaker 4: its head. Now, like I told a few of my
Speaker 4: my friends that had seen it before too, I did
Speaker 4: not see the red eyes. Now, whether it's was a
Speaker 4: reflexive thing or whether it didn't want me to see
Speaker 4: the red eyes, it didn't frighten me. But the thing
Speaker 4: was still see it. It was it was a creatures
Speaker 4: for some reason.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, what I was saying.
Speaker 4: You know, we have.
Speaker 3: We have a number of different types of alien entities
Speaker 3: have been seen, one of which would be the reptilians. Okay,
Speaker 3: and let's just take let's extrapolate this a little bit. Okay,
Speaker 3: in the the m world, the insect and the amphibian world, Okay,
Speaker 3: there are amphibians can glide, Okay, yeah, so why would
Speaker 3: it be so far out of the reach out of
Speaker 3: believing that maybe this creature is a reptilian. Okay, maybe
Speaker 3: it had wings, Maybe it was one of the fire
Speaker 3: hierarchies of the reptilian. Okay, just look, look, well, I'm
Speaker 3: really gonna get off on a tangent here.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: When I took the pictures that I had, the seven pickets,
Speaker 3: the UFO, the hobbard over taught me there were four
Speaker 3: creatures in the windows, three grays. Of these three tall
Speaker 3: so and one was about a head call. It was
Speaker 3: lighter in color. That tells me there's an hierarchy. Stand Yeah,
Speaker 3: So let's extrapolate that and say reptilians as well, they
Speaker 3: have an air arc just like bees do. Okay, lost do.
Speaker 3: So maybe that's what was in conjunction with the UFO.
Speaker 3: So it's an intelligent creature if it did, it did
Speaker 3: come out of the UFO, got it. So it's not
Speaker 3: it's not an animal. It's not something supernatural. It's super normal. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's paranormal, yes, but it's not it's not supernatural in
Speaker 3: the sense that it's not a spirit entity and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. I don't believe that for a second. Okay,
Speaker 3: h And I can tell you from being in that
Speaker 3: park a couple of times one getting ready to down again,
Speaker 3: that whatever's in that I think it's still around that park.
Speaker 3: Where it's at, I don't know, because that's a pretty
Speaker 3: big park. Okay, that's a pretty big area down here. Okay,
Speaker 3: it could be anywhere down here.
Speaker 4: It could be in those tunnels.
Speaker 3: It could be in those tunnels. That's what that documentary showed.
Speaker 3: People were down in this tunnel and they said they
Speaker 3: saw all this and they got it go on supposedly
Speaker 3: on a film. I'd have to view the film and
Speaker 3: have it done by an expert to see if it
Speaker 3: was a doctor film or something. Okay. The problem we
Speaker 3: have nowadays in the in the paranormal community is you've
Speaker 3: got a lot of AI generated stuff.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's hard to tell different It's hard.
Speaker 3: To tell things, right, It's hard to tell things from
Speaker 3: one thing or another. Just like Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: You know, I saw a big.
Speaker 3: Bigfoot does not look like the incredible Halt Okay, bulging muscles, nothing,
Speaker 3: it's not like that. It's covered with hair. You can't
Speaker 3: even see the muscles. You know it's there because it's
Speaker 3: got big arms and legs.
Speaker 2: Big. Okay, I is so AI is so realistic looking.
Speaker 2: They even use celebrity people faces on themselves. I mean
Speaker 2: it looks real like me and you, like we're looking
Speaker 2: at each other right now, that's how good it is.
Speaker 2: May I well, I mean, for example, I see that.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they use it. I know they
Speaker 2: I know AI uses whoever is using it or whoever
Speaker 2: deals with it out of the there's all kinds of
Speaker 2: celebrities they use, but the number one I see the most.
Speaker 2: Not to get off topic, but they use Ariana Grande. Now,
Speaker 2: don't get wrong, I grew up watching her, you know,
Speaker 2: with my daughter when she needs to be like kids shows.
Speaker 2: Now she's you know, she grew up to be a
Speaker 2: very beautiful pop star, pop star singer. And of course
Speaker 2: now they the images that they put on social media.
Speaker 2: Uh well, you know, well it's pretty obvious. I mean
Speaker 2: they might give her the face look, but the rest
Speaker 2: of her as a no, they don't belong to her.
Speaker 2: So there's some giveaways. There's there's some giveaway. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm going about. I'm not gonna eat yeah, because
Speaker 2: she's not. Yeah, ay, I will give you more of
Speaker 2: it what you actually have in reality that he's saying.
Speaker 2: So I don't need that. So my point behind all
Speaker 2: that is if you, if you're familie, you with a
Speaker 2: lot of what's out there and what's presented, and then
Speaker 2: when something I was gets put out there on top
Speaker 2: of it trying to be portraying as the real deal
Speaker 2: some of us know better. Is the whole point behind
Speaker 2: the whole AI thing. But you know it is very deceiving.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: I know we've talked about this a lot.
Speaker 5: Agents very deceiving, which tell you, I hate the I
Speaker 5: hate the red circle pictures on on these different groups.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you don't, well, John, what are you talking
Speaker 2: if you don't have a red circle a real I'm joking.
Speaker 2: I'm joking. I'm joking.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of switch
Speaker 3: gears here for a second. About two months or so ago,
Speaker 3: I mentioned this to you, Dan. I think I told
Speaker 3: you too, Linda. I was up to Washington Park now
Speaker 3: I live in Washington here, and I took my oldest
Speaker 3: great grandson, who's seven years old, up to the park
Speaker 3: to ride his bike for the first time, teach. So
Speaker 3: I go up there. It's a nice sunny day and stuff,
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting here on this bench watching him tell
Speaker 3: him how to do it right. So I'm looking straight
Speaker 3: at him like this. He gets up by him. He says,
Speaker 3: papef looked over there, And I looked over there and
Speaker 3: I saw something sitting on the ground behind a tree.
Speaker 3: It was wider than the tree. The tree was probably
Speaker 3: a foot diameter. Now human being could be wider than
Speaker 3: the tree, like only a foot in diameter. So I'm
Speaker 3: looking it's all black. So about that time, my wife
Speaker 3: calls me and she says, I'm telling her what I'm
Speaker 3: seeing because Eli thought at first that's his name Eli,
Speaker 3: And I says, let me. She goes, can you go
Speaker 3: get your binoccias and go to the I have it
Speaker 3: in park about one hundred feet away. Well, this thing
Speaker 3: was about one hundred and fifty feet away from me.
Speaker 3: So as I stood up and started walking, this thing
Speaker 3: stood up. And I'm going to tell you something was
Speaker 3: all black. It was massive, and I know how tall
Speaker 3: it could have been because the next day I went
Speaker 3: up without Eli. It had its head above a seven
Speaker 3: seven foot tall branch. So it was about seven and
Speaker 3: a half feet tall. There are no bears up here
Speaker 3: that tall. And when it left, it walked into the
Speaker 3: woods on two legs. Now, it's either extremely big tall man,
Speaker 3: which I don't know anybody that big around here. And
Speaker 3: I'm a big guy, you see me, I'm not little.
Speaker 3: But this thing was there. That's the one. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure what it was. But what I'm getting at, I
Speaker 3: guess is this is that you know, you can see something,
Speaker 3: and you know there's a lot of misidentification going on too.
Speaker 3: You know, Dan is a tracker. You know you can
Speaker 3: find footprints. It looks like there's something that's not could
Speaker 3: be a bear, could be a fuguar, it could be
Speaker 3: a coyote, you know, but you got to be sure
Speaker 3: what you're looking at. I don't really like to say
Speaker 3: for sure what something is until I know I've actually
Speaker 3: got close to it. And the closest I ever got
Speaker 3: to that one big one was fifteen feet under fifteen
Speaker 3: feet and I looked up, I came to its waist.
Speaker 3: I'm six foot four this that I came to its waist.
Speaker 3: But then fifteen feet probably thirteenth feet, it smelt like death. White,
Speaker 3: shoulders wider than my suv, arms like tree trunks, and
Speaker 3: legs like tree trunks. Massive chest had some hair on
Speaker 3: space like right around here like this, but pretty much
Speaker 3: clear but all around. I couldn't tell if it was
Speaker 3: male or female because the hair was so long on
Speaker 3: it or fur. I couldn't see any muscularture, but it
Speaker 3: was massive. I saw its hands. The back of its
Speaker 3: hands were like grayish black, big dark fingernails.
Speaker 2: And listen to this.
Speaker 3: When it looked at me and smiled, I guess it
Speaker 3: was a child. And what it did, I could see
Speaker 3: two canine big cane was about that big, and molars,
Speaker 3: So that tells me it's a meat and pant heater. Okay.
Speaker 3: It didn't have a saginal crest like a gorilla either,
Speaker 3: Okay it was It's something different. And when I looked
Speaker 3: at it, it had green eyes. And I got hair
Speaker 3: samples this thing. He had twenty two inch long footprints.
Speaker 3: There were twelve police officers there before I even got
Speaker 3: on scene, and thirty civilians standing on the right hand
Speaker 3: side of the road. Now, Dan, I took you and
Speaker 3: a couple of people whatever right. I took you, and
Speaker 3: I showed you where what. I started walking up over
Speaker 3: that embankment and I looked back and the police officers
Speaker 3: weren't following me, and I said, you guys coming or what?
Speaker 3: And you go no. Look at the size of the
Speaker 3: f and thing.
Speaker 2: I said, you guys got gun? You called me?
Speaker 3: So I started, I said, I'm going. So I walked
Speaker 3: up in the closer I go. I smelled it before
Speaker 3: I saw it, because there's no food out that night.
Speaker 3: It smelled like death and leaves and rot and every
Speaker 3: but horrible. The hair samples that I got were hollow.
Speaker 3: And when I shine my powerful QBAM at it, the
Speaker 3: light wasn't reflective back at me, which it should have been.
Speaker 3: Five hundred thousand candlepower. That's a lot of light. It
Speaker 3: seemed to absorb the light. It stood there with its
Speaker 3: arm slightly crossed like this till they said to the
Speaker 3: right and left, looking down at me. Okay, studying me,
Speaker 3: I think. And I felt wave after wave, but only
Speaker 3: one thing I could say, beating against my chest like
Speaker 3: I want to say. It felt like it was sadness.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. So And about fifteen to twenty seconds and
Speaker 3: in a blink of an eye, I'll listen to this,
Speaker 3: I can understand why some people get blurry pictures of Bigfoot,
Speaker 3: you know, unless you have a fast, fast shutter speed
Speaker 3: on your camera. The way this thing moved, it moved
Speaker 3: zero only sixty It covered thirty feet and three steps
Speaker 3: into the woods. I couldn't even keep up with it. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: So and I felt and when it looked at me,
Speaker 3: I saw a sentient self awareness. I didn't see an animal.
Speaker 3: It's not an animal, okay. It's intelligent. Okay, same thing
Speaker 3: with your mark man, It's an intelligent creature. I don't
Speaker 3: know what that is either. You don't know what that is.
Speaker 3: We can only speculate and postulate what it might do.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. We go out and we put
Speaker 3: our lives and our health and safety on the line
Speaker 3: work for these things. Okay. I'll still continue to do
Speaker 3: this as long as I have breath in my body. Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean recently, I told end I think I actually
Speaker 3: went up to another castle up here in Brownsville. It's
Speaker 3: called the Nimicole and Castle, and it's the turned place
Speaker 3: in the country. I got pictures of four ghosts. Four
Speaker 3: got them for sure. A little boy about three feet tall,
Speaker 3: the gray head looking hide and by like this, light
Speaker 3: fingers coming around the doorway, two eyeballs, and a mirror
Speaker 3: shining back at me. I mean, and they invited me
Speaker 3: to come back and do an overnight and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: ask ron House to go up here with me overnight.
Speaker 3: I don't need anybody. But he wanted to go, so
Speaker 3: I said, what the heck, I'm gonna go. But see,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking about. I'm not just a big
Speaker 3: foot guy. I'm a paranormal guy. Help me too, well, good.
Speaker 2: I want to go out there. We're getting some awesome
Speaker 2: interaction from the live chat. But I want to back
Speaker 2: up a little bit here. I got this one here
Speaker 2: on Nighthawk High Streamers podcast. This is William Nighthawk for
Speaker 2: those who know William, but this is a comedy. He
Speaker 2: threw up there. He said, I disagree the bigfoot of
Speaker 2: more than one type. What's your thoughts on that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I agree wholehearted that I believe there are different types
Speaker 2: of bigfoot. Can I say this? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I said this to you a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Dan.
Speaker 3: The Northeastern book foot, except for juvenile bigfoot interaction, don't
Speaker 3: seem to be violent. They learned to live with new
Speaker 3: urban communities, okay. And they're very nomadic. They don't take
Speaker 3: a particular area for themselves. They move around a lot.
Speaker 3: Now you move further south, where there are less people,
Speaker 3: in more wooded areas, you have bigfoot who or sasquatch,
Speaker 3: skunk gapes, the Bogie Creek monster are more violent, okay,
Speaker 3: because they're more territorial. Then you move out to the northwest,
Speaker 3: up by Oregon, state of Washington, Alaska. You heard of
Speaker 3: port Lock, Alaska. What happened up there? Okay?
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, Yeah, absolutely, they are more.
Speaker 3: Violent because you're away from people. Now you heard they're Yettis,
Speaker 3: they're yearing. Okay. Really, in Australia, the only place I
Speaker 3: don't think there might be a big foot, and I
Speaker 3: hate to say this because I don't want to break
Speaker 3: his heart, but I don't think there's a big foot
Speaker 3: in the UK. Okay. That's just my opinion. Okay, I mean,
Speaker 3: but that's just my opinion. Okay. I'd have to go
Speaker 3: over there myself and see something before I believe it. Okay,
Speaker 3: you take.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that you made that statement. For anyone listening,
Speaker 2: I want to get your import on that because you know,
Speaker 2: I have often thought of that that you made that statement, John, Now,
Speaker 2: I have spoken to other crypto zoologists from out in
Speaker 2: the UK, out in Britain, like for example, Andy McGrath
Speaker 2: graph for those who know Andy McGrath, he's been involved
Speaker 2: with this for many years.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's a great guy. Uh Andy McGrath. He studies a
Speaker 2: lot of wildlife as well. And they're you know, the
Speaker 2: one thing I will agree that I believe they have
Speaker 2: been seen. And he's not the only cryptiologist out there.
Speaker 2: There's others. And your main species of animal out there
Speaker 2: is a large U I quote United State large black
Speaker 2: cats out there in the UK or a different part
Speaker 2: of who are different parts of Britain, which I believe
Speaker 2: that's very plausible because I mean, I mean cancels seen
Speaker 2: all around the world. So here's White's white eye. You know.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about that. Back in the day, rich
Speaker 3: people in England used to take an important for godic
Speaker 3: animals as pets, and I believe that they've led some
Speaker 3: of these, like leopards or jaguars out, just let them out.
Speaker 3: They disappear and they go into the wild, they mate
Speaker 3: with another one, and they've been around. I agree with that,
Speaker 3: but listen, the history of England goes way back, okay,
Speaker 3: the Celts that live there, the Anglos that there, the
Speaker 3: Saxons that live there, Okay, the Romans when it went
Speaker 3: over Bill Hadrian's Wall. There's no reports at all to
Speaker 3: my knowledge of a big foot like creature panthers, yes, okay,
Speaker 3: So I don't know for sure, but I mean, here's
Speaker 3: the only thing. Now, there was a time when the
Speaker 3: sea level was four hundred feet lower where the coast
Speaker 3: of England was connected to York. Because there's only I
Speaker 3: think it's twenty six miles I think between from the
Speaker 3: English Channel to the mainland of Portugal and France, and
Speaker 3: so it could be possible that one migrated over there
Speaker 3: and stuff. But keep in mind that while England and
Speaker 3: the UK in general, Scotland, England, Ireland, I mean, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of people there. You would think more people
Speaker 3: would have seen something, but you don't get a lot
Speaker 3: of reports out there. So I don't know for sure.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I don't want to knock anybody that's
Speaker 3: trying to find out if there is one. I'd be
Speaker 3: surprised if there was one. Let's put it that way,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to roll it out, but I'd be surprised.
Speaker 3: But the big foot, I do agree with William and
Speaker 3: he's a good guy by the way, I know who
Speaker 3: he is. But I do agree there's different type. For instance,
Speaker 3: the Yeti and the air in China and the Himalayas
Speaker 3: is a very very violent creature.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: They've been known to steal animals up there and young
Speaker 3: people as well. Okay, mainly I think because the food
Speaker 3: source is not that plentiful of high where they live. Okay.
Speaker 3: I think the other creatures that live up there with them,
Speaker 3: with the snow leopards and such, okay, but there's not
Speaker 3: that much food up there for a big creature like that. Australia,
Speaker 3: the Yaui for instance, Okay, again, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: interior that no one lives in. But let's think about
Speaker 3: what they have to eat over there, Okay, you have
Speaker 3: to look at a food source. Something that big needs
Speaker 3: a lot of food keep going to keep its big
Speaker 3: metabolism going.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: What do they have over there in Australia Kangaroos Okay,
Speaker 3: some cattle, I guess too. And when that brings me
Speaker 3: back to this, I don't know of any report in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 3: not one where a bigfoot creature is killed a cow
Speaker 3: or a sheep, not one. I might have missed it,
Speaker 3: but in all over five thousand cases, I haven't. I
Speaker 3: haven't heard anything like it. And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3: I believe that if this is an intelligent creature, which
Speaker 3: I believe it to be, it knows, man, it knows
Speaker 3: that if it kills a cow, a cow or a
Speaker 3: bull or something like that, men are going to go
Speaker 3: looking for it. They're going to know what killed it. Right,
Speaker 3: So it's it subsists on deer, other small animals and
Speaker 3: berries and stuff like that. Okay, it needs a water source,
Speaker 3: that needs a food source, that needs places to hide, caves, overhangs,
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. Okay, so that's where I look
Speaker 3: when I go out by the way. I've waded through
Speaker 3: creeks and everything else in freezing weather. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a nut when it comes to that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But uh, anyhow, I'm getting way off the subject here.
Speaker 2: But you're a nut anyway. I'll just you, okay, I
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 3: Listen. When I first started doing this fifty eight years ago, Okay,
Speaker 3: we had cults spring up, ufo cults where people were
Speaker 3: putting luminofoil on their heads and saying it was taking
Speaker 3: the Venus. Guess what my hobby is astronomy and paleontology. Oh,
Speaker 3: I know a lot about any on Venus. The air pressure,
Speaker 3: the pressure up there of the atmosphere so bad it
Speaker 3: were crushy eight hundred degrees. There's nothing up There's no
Speaker 3: women up there like women from Venus. Remember those movies.
Speaker 4: There's nothing out there.
Speaker 3: When the Russians sent up a spacecraft at landed there,
Speaker 3: it only last I think it was like forty minutes
Speaker 3: or something. Then the heat overwhelmed it. That's made out
Speaker 3: of metal. Okay, it's actually hotter than mercury, which is
Speaker 3: closest to the sun. So my point is that we
Speaker 3: had a lot of people because of those type of
Speaker 3: people were saying all this crazy nonsense. When we had
Speaker 3: real investigators going out there and investigat these things, we
Speaker 3: will look at and lumpth in to that category of
Speaker 3: a bunch of nutcases. That's why I try to keep
Speaker 3: it legit. That's why I don't like when people go
Speaker 3: out there and make all these outrageous dreams. I sat down.
Speaker 3: I saw one recently where they said Bigfoot had brought
Speaker 3: their whole family and talk to these people. Okay, told
Speaker 3: them their first names and stuff. Give me a break, Okay,
Speaker 3: give me a break. There's a lot of people out
Speaker 3: there that's going to be an outright line. They're going
Speaker 3: to fabricate stuff and to identify stuff, or maybe you're
Speaker 3: just nutcases. Okay. Eighty percent of the cases I've been
Speaker 3: on I debunk the twenty percent I have to say,
Speaker 3: I believe Okay, And the best thing I can ever
Speaker 3: say to somebody like Linda, you, Dan, or anybody else
Speaker 3: that's listening to night, if I do an investigation for you,
Speaker 3: the best thing I can say to you, if I
Speaker 3: believe you, I'll say, because you know, everybody wants closure
Speaker 3: when they see something, I believe you. That's all I
Speaker 3: can do. Because I can't make them happen. I can't
Speaker 3: make them appear. I can't make an alien a peer.
Speaker 3: I can't make Bigfoot a peer or moth Man. I
Speaker 3: can't do none of that right, So I have to
Speaker 3: go by what people tell me is just so you know, look,
Speaker 3: anybody could see or have an experience in the paranormal anybody.
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a pope, a priest, a
Speaker 3: fellon a teacher, you know whatever. Anybody can have an experience,
Speaker 3: So I don't will out anybody when they come forward.
Speaker 3: And when people, you know, they got to they're they're
Speaker 3: putting their reputational line. Dan, You and I know that
Speaker 3: that one guy by Mingo Park didn't want his name
Speaker 3: put out there.
Speaker 2: Right right, He didn't even want to face on camera.
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 3: I believe, I believe he saw something there you and I.
Speaker 3: And then that's down there, you know, and I believe,
Speaker 3: and that's real close to where I had the other
Speaker 3: bigfoot sighting. Okay, so that's only maybe a mile or
Speaker 3: a mile and a half away. So yeah, we have
Speaker 3: on this stuff. Okay, but I'm talking too much, Linda
Speaker 3: your I got where's that duct tape.
Speaker 2: Comment? Johns Judge.
Speaker 4: It's all very informative and stuff that we all need
Speaker 4: to consider. And and somebody comes for it and say
Speaker 4: I know what a bigfoot is, then they're not for
Speaker 4: real because nobody knows, and it's gonna unfortunately, it's gonna
Speaker 4: take a body.
Speaker 3: Or you know what, you know, my brother, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: my brother was coming from work on it. He worked
Speaker 3: on high School that's by forty three, now, Dan, where
Speaker 3: I saw that ten foot paul one was right across
Speaker 3: from Route forty three.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: My brother Nick was on forty three coming back after
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock at night. He said he saw us on
Speaker 3: the highway through crash cars, military truck, military personnel. Okay,
Speaker 3: they were trying, they were. They took something that was
Speaker 3: off the road that these two cars ran into and
Speaker 3: got demolished, loaded on a journey. It was a big
Speaker 3: he said, looked like it was a big foot. Now,
Speaker 3: my brother doesn't lie. I know my he's my youngest brother. Okay,
Speaker 3: he never lies. So he saw something that's the same
Speaker 3: area where the chief of police, I could tell you
Speaker 3: his name. I don't know if he'd be happy with it.
Speaker 3: Charlie Feloni. That's who the chief of police was at
Speaker 3: California Page at the time. He said he saw a
Speaker 3: big foot squatting down off of forty three, watching the
Speaker 3: traffic go by. So, I mean, but no one knows
Speaker 3: until they see these things, and it changes a whole perspective, guys.
Speaker 3: You know, for you, Linda, that had to be terrifying
Speaker 3: as for a woman had to be terrifying. Absolutely, I
Speaker 3: don't breakdown.
Speaker 4: I wasn't so much terrified until later and I found out.
Speaker 4: You know, I was ostracized so much by people when
Speaker 4: I would tell them what I saw. You know, nobody
Speaker 4: believed me, and you know, call me a liar and
Speaker 4: call me a where it go and a witch and
Speaker 4: all kinds of craziness. But you know, I don't know
Speaker 4: to this day, I don't know what it was. I
Speaker 4: just know it was something and what I saw didn't
Speaker 4: appear to be from this world.
Speaker 3: So and you're you know, you got to look at
Speaker 3: something to you know what if you heard the term
Speaker 3: extro biology, Yeah, okay, let me explain something. If we
Speaker 3: are the way we are as human being, because where
Speaker 3: we live on this planets, where where the size we are,
Speaker 3: Our eyes are the size they are, Okay, our skin
Speaker 3: is the way it is for this environment. Now, Bigfoot
Speaker 3: from descriptions and what I saw personally has large eyes,
Speaker 3: fur cover or hair, I'm not sure which. Okay, it's
Speaker 3: our boreal you. It's been seen in the daytime but
Speaker 3: mostly at night, so it's got long arm. Now they've
Speaker 3: also been seen up in trees now wherever they come from.
Speaker 3: They're not the top predator. You know why they got
Speaker 3: long arms. There's only a few reasons why you go
Speaker 3: up in a tree for food, for shelter, and to
Speaker 3: get away from a bigger predator.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I think you can see in different light spectrums as well.
Speaker 3: It's got superhero. It's twice the size of a gorilla,
Speaker 3: So that means it's four times as strong as a
Speaker 3: gorilla if you look at you. If you extrapolate that,
Speaker 3: so it's four times as strong as a gorilla. Gorilla
Speaker 3: strength was measure in Guinness Book as immeasurable more than
Speaker 3: twenty men. So this thing strong as forty men. It
Speaker 3: could have ripped my arms and legs off and floss
Speaker 3: the teeth with it, okay, But I didn't feel any
Speaker 3: fear from it or any fear of it. I was
Speaker 3: there in awe of it because I've never seen anything.
Speaker 3: I've seen elephants in the zoos and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and bears, and I've killed bears in my time. I
Speaker 3: killed three bear in my life, but I've never seen
Speaker 3: anything that big, standing with its arms semi crossed like
Speaker 3: this with a barrel chest from a huge chest. I
Speaker 3: weighed two hundred and forty pounds at the time this
Speaker 3: thing was I estimated with the soil compaction device because
Speaker 3: of the depth of the imprint that it weighed around
Speaker 3: twelve hundred pounds. That's as big. That's bigger than a
Speaker 3: grizzly bear. Okay.
Speaker 2: And it moves so fast.
Speaker 3: And I've seen deer run from a dead stop. This
Speaker 3: was faster than any deer ever seen, or any rapid
Speaker 3: I mean, you've moved that fast as a blur.
Speaker 4: Now you say that, you say that it is lower
Speaker 4: on the food chain, what would be above it other
Speaker 4: than man and only man because it could possibly kill it?
Speaker 3: Well, can you say, well, here's what I say about that.
Speaker 3: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that's not
Speaker 3: from Earth.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So wherever it came from, originally Harbor came to be here.
Speaker 3: It wasn't the tall predator. Now, back in the Paleolithic era, okay,
Speaker 3: we had saber toothed lions, tigers, dire wolves. They called
Speaker 3: hell pig okay, Jake and Nanny or pig okay. So
Speaker 3: I'm thinking that wherever this creature originated from, it has
Speaker 3: something along those lines that was bigger and they're powerful
Speaker 3: than it is. Okay, and it seems to take It's
Speaker 3: a sociable creature because it needs to make It has mates,
Speaker 3: it has young it has a structured family environment. Okay.
Speaker 3: The young ones seem to act up a lot like
Speaker 3: juvenile delinquents. They're the ones I walk with people and
Speaker 3: doing what they shouldn't be doing the things that they
Speaker 3: get on a house, right, So that's what I think now.
Speaker 3: The one up when where Ron lives, one house lives,
Speaker 3: it's called Crescent Heights area. When I went up there
Speaker 3: with my friend, my investigated Devi, and there was three
Speaker 3: of us, Paul Johnson, Devon and myself. Paul Johnson is
Speaker 3: six foot kicks and skin Devon six foot six and
Speaker 3: a half sixth Dixey, and here I was a six
Speaker 3: four or two forty. I'm the little guy with the buke.
Speaker 3: We interviewed a bunch of people up there, right, and
Speaker 3: we entered one view to one woman in a trailer
Speaker 3: her trailers on the hillside facing down the hill right.
Speaker 3: He said she heard something at the window was facing
Speaker 3: down the hill.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she went to the window and looked and there's
Speaker 3: this thing looking at that window. So looking that window,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be at least nine feet tall. And guess
Speaker 3: what their post of that area was a good foot one.
Speaker 2: We found.
Speaker 3: That's such a track. Mary rob Jackson from Channel two
Speaker 3: News came down and picking me up with their news
Speaker 3: crew and we went up there. The church was up
Speaker 3: on Tuffield Isolatory from the town. We found two such
Speaker 3: a track twenty two inches long and almost eighteen engines
Speaker 3: found butt tracks. Butt prints in the snow were a
Speaker 3: sad down. But listen, here's a kicker.
Speaker 2: Listen this.
Speaker 3: I told Dan about this. I look for tracks further
Speaker 3: on where it stopped. I'm looking and I'm looking, like,
Speaker 3: what the heck, where's its tracks? So I looked at
Speaker 3: the tracks that left it step backwards into the tracks.
Speaker 3: That's an old Indian trick. Yeah, into the woods where
Speaker 3: there's a lot of brush. The tracks in the morning.
Speaker 3: Now Channel two to that was katy Ka Pitchbor. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not making this. You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: Somebody said something about what slobbering the Living recent posted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tracy Tracy Hall is asking that question. Tracy Hall,
Speaker 2: she's William Nighthawk's wife, Linda. She said, I am curious
Speaker 2: about what slobberd on your window?
Speaker 4: So am I. It was about three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 4: and uh, it woke Chris up because his bedroom's up here,
Speaker 4: right off of the of the porch, and I, I
Speaker 4: guess he got up and went out and looked and
Speaker 4: he didn't see anything. But we have motion lights and
Speaker 4: they were on. So he got up first to get
Speaker 4: ready to go to work, and I hurd him up here.
Speaker 4: So I came up to let the dogs out, and
Speaker 4: he came in and I went out to feed the birds,
Speaker 4: and I said, did you see that stuff on the
Speaker 4: front door, And he said, yeah, I was gonna wait
Speaker 4: till you saw it and see what you thought. And
Speaker 4: so I swabbed it and I sent it off to
Speaker 4: a professional. I'm not supposed to tell who has it
Speaker 4: right now, but they said it would take a couple
Speaker 4: of months, and it's not anybody that lives here around
Speaker 4: here around me that I was told by someone in
Speaker 4: the big fitfield and they got me the hooked me
Speaker 4: up to send this off. So I put on gloves
Speaker 4: and God actually one of the things I used, several
Speaker 4: different things. I used those kids for COVID, you know,
Speaker 4: that has a swab in it. I just I had
Speaker 4: gloves on and I pulled that out and swabbed that
Speaker 4: and put it back down in that paper. And that
Speaker 4: was one of them. And then I had some Q
Speaker 4: tips that hadn't been opened or touched, and I used
Speaker 4: those to go over the slobbers. It was a area
Speaker 4: I don't know about the size, like a softball, maybe
Speaker 4: a little bigger. And right in the middle it looked
Speaker 4: like something pushed its lips up against air and there
Speaker 4: you could even almost see hair out to the side.
Speaker 4: But there were five long slobbers, like it was looking
Speaker 4: in the kits there and there's five long slobbers. And
Speaker 4: it just went straight down from that area where I
Speaker 4: said it looked like a face clear to the floor.
Speaker 4: And I measured and it was like four feet up
Speaker 4: and it was either a it could possibly have been
Speaker 4: a deer, but uh, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: things that could have been.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you the window you're referred to
Speaker 2: from the ground up, how how tall is that window?
Speaker 4: It's a storm door, my friend? Oh oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: it was just a little a little bit up from
Speaker 4: where there's a stoop that comes out and you step
Speaker 4: down onto the porch, so that's about five or six
Speaker 4: inches and then from there up it was about four
Speaker 4: foot seven from the floor up. Now, last spring, about
Speaker 4: the same time I had I found something on my
Speaker 4: bedroom window. Now, I stay up kind of late at
Speaker 4: night and read and I have a light on, but
Speaker 4: I have Venetian blinds, but sometimes they're open a little bit,
Speaker 4: and you know, I can I can kind of see
Speaker 4: outside if there's a full moon or something. So something
Speaker 4: is tall and kind of looking down and in. And
Speaker 4: that was to the side of that window, and that
Speaker 4: would have been up at least six feet from you know,
Speaker 4: my bedroom window sits up a little bit. But the
Speaker 4: scariest thing that I've had happen here is something knocking
Speaker 4: on all four corners of the house. Not like that
Speaker 4: woman you were telling about Dawn. This this house is
Speaker 4: like a try level, I guess you would call it.
Speaker 4: You come in the top and then you go down
Speaker 4: and there's room down there, and out from there is
Speaker 4: a porch or a back deck. Then you go down
Speaker 4: to get into the basement. So it's probably twenty five
Speaker 4: thirty feet at least from I have big windows on
Speaker 4: this back of the house. The thing was knocking on
Speaker 4: these windows. Whatever was knocking, Oh wow. And then it
Speaker 4: knocked on all four corners of the house. And we
Speaker 4: went out and checked and didn't see anything. But that
Speaker 4: was we call that the night of siege, just like
Speaker 4: somebody taking their fists and going Chris, I said, and
Speaker 4: heard it. My granddaughter was here. And how it started
Speaker 4: was about six o'clock at night, and he took Phoebe
Speaker 4: out and Meredith, my granddaughter was sitting here every night.
Speaker 4: She went out with him, and then Meredith came in
Speaker 4: because it was getting a little cool. And then just
Speaker 4: a few minutes Chris came in. He said, what do
Speaker 4: you guys pounding on? I said, we weren't pounding on anything.
Speaker 4: He said, well, I heard something out back down over
Speaker 4: the hill. We had a utility trailer that was sitting
Speaker 4: down there near the creek. So it sounded like pounding
Speaker 4: on metal. Just about five or six times, they'd do it,
Speaker 4: like three times, they'd do it again, and then he
Speaker 4: came in. And then after that's when we started get
Speaker 4: pounded on the house. He called the police. These came
Speaker 4: out with their lights, you know, they went all around everything,
Speaker 4: and they said, oh, you don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: And he said, well, I can tell you what I
Speaker 4: think it might be. He said, might be bigfoot. They laughed,
Speaker 4: you know, and they laughed. They didn't even get out,
Speaker 4: They just shone light around. But it continued till about
Speaker 4: three in the morning, and we'd go out, we didn't
Speaker 4: see anything. SA Meredith and I went to bed downstairs
Speaker 4: on the second floor down there. And as soon as
Speaker 4: we were down there and turned the lights out in
Speaker 4: my bedroom, I locked the bedroom door inside her pounding
Speaker 4: on the window, and that's the one that had the
Speaker 4: slobbers on it. And nice Meredith said, you know, I'm scared,
Speaker 4: and I say, I've just about had enough. And I
Speaker 4: turned on the lights. Or before I turned on the lights,
Speaker 4: it sounded like somebody got a handful of rocks and
Speaker 4: threw it on the inside of the door. Oh, it
Speaker 4: was kind of like Polder geis activity tell the truth.
Speaker 4: But you know, Chris heard that knocking. Now, I've heard
Speaker 4: knocking in the woods before. That sounded like somebody pitching
Speaker 4: a tent. And I said, who's out here in the
Speaker 4: woods pitching a tent? You know? And I'd go around
Speaker 4: the corner. Nothing, but you could hear that click click click,
Speaker 4: You know how when you pull the tip steaks out
Speaker 4: and you can take a hammer and you pound it down.
Speaker 4: Is exactly what it sounded like. There was nothing. Wow,
Speaker 4: I hear all kinds of craziness. Went out there.
Speaker 2: Words one morning and.
Speaker 4: I have like a little camp down here, and I
Speaker 4: have a path that goes out into the woods. It's
Speaker 4: just right off my back yard back here, because I
Speaker 4: live in the woods, and probably about thirty feet from
Speaker 4: the yard there was a tree and the path goes
Speaker 4: on the right side of the tree, and it's pretty
Speaker 4: well worn that goes out into the woods and over
Speaker 4: to the creek. Well, this one particular morning, I went
Speaker 4: out there and there was like a big tree leaned
Speaker 4: up against this other little tree, and then right across
Speaker 4: the path there was a tree that touched the right
Speaker 4: into that one tree. It was just like a triangle,
Speaker 4: you know, it was up the tree and then one
Speaker 4: balanced from the top down to the left, and then
Speaker 4: there was one moved over from that bottom to touch
Speaker 4: a tree again. Yeah, that man, that's all how something's
Speaker 4: put that there? And it went over there and there's
Speaker 4: this thing that looked like a big handprint and so
Speaker 4: I I had posted pictures of it and stuff. Unless
Speaker 4: a Dell came out looked at it. He said he
Speaker 4: didn't what it was. It looked appeared to him to
Speaker 4: be well, I don't want to say something that that
Speaker 4: and get it wrong, but like it almost looked like
Speaker 4: it was burnt a handprint burnt into that log or
Speaker 4: painted or pressed, so you know. And I find rocks
Speaker 4: and moths, and then I found a skull up in
Speaker 4: the tree, and I I've heard the Sierra sounds that
Speaker 4: sounds like gigs. I've heard them screaming. I've heard them whining, whoop,
Speaker 4: And you know, I've seen lights. One night, I was
Speaker 4: sitting on the porch last spring and it was before
Speaker 4: the lightning bugs come out, and I something caught my
Speaker 4: eye out of the corner of my eye. I turned
Speaker 4: and looked to my right, and I was sitting on
Speaker 4: the back brand the back here, and I was probably
Speaker 4: about a baseball size orb came across the road and
Speaker 4: over to the creek and it stopped and I watched it.
Speaker 4: It went in front of me, eye level, over into
Speaker 4: the woods where I told you I found that log
Speaker 4: in the structure, and then it went up into the
Speaker 4: trees and then over towards my left and was gone.
Speaker 4: It didn't blink, it just it just smooved. And there's
Speaker 4: a light out here in my woods that now I've
Speaker 4: gone on Google Earth. I've been out in those woods
Speaker 4: many many times, way out there, and there's no house
Speaker 4: out there, but there's a light that shows up about
Speaker 4: this time, and I've been watching for it for this
Speaker 4: past week. It showed up and there it is. Now
Speaker 4: what is that? I don't know. Sometimes it's red, sometimes
Speaker 4: it looks yellow. Sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not.
Speaker 2: So when you say sometimes it looks red, sometimes it
Speaker 2: looks yellow. Are you hearing like eye shine?
Speaker 4: Now it's just one thing, just a light. Oh how
Speaker 4: you go outside and you you look off to the
Speaker 4: ways and you can see a cell tower or somebody's
Speaker 4: house light or something like that.
Speaker 2: I have all winter, you know.
Speaker 4: Now it's been a there for a couple of years.
Speaker 4: It's gone in the winter, but now it's back out there.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what it is. I'm going out
Speaker 4: there as soon as I can. The snow's gone night
Speaker 4: and get out. I'm going back out there and see
Speaker 4: if I can't find what's out there. I've been out here.
Speaker 4: That's where there's some structures out there, so I don't
Speaker 4: know what it is.
Speaker 3: It's trail camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got to get some batteries. I just procrastinated.
Speaker 4: It's laying out here. I've got a trail cam. We've
Speaker 4: only got the one car and he uses it to
Speaker 4: go to work. So I'm kind of stuck here except
Speaker 4: you know, evenings, and I don't go out at night
Speaker 4: by myself or weekends, so I will. That's that's why
Speaker 4: I planned on doing this weekend, getting some some batteries
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 3: Thing, so I will let me. Can I give you
Speaker 3: some advice about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You up, don't put it six foot height okay, put
Speaker 3: it up at least ten feet okay, at least ten
Speaker 3: te okay, and put it on a game traill had
Speaker 3: multiple cameras, if you at least two. I put them
Speaker 3: across from each other, okay. This way, if anything walks
Speaker 3: between them, one of the cameras is going to catch it. Okay.
Speaker 2: I I.
Speaker 3: Have some other tips too from the bigot likes to
Speaker 3: walk in creeks and water and what it does. It
Speaker 3: does at the mass footprints because I found cracks coming
Speaker 3: up out of the water at least five feet up
Speaker 3: on the embankment.
Speaker 2: Okay, I agree that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And as I said earlier, it needs food, water,
Speaker 3: and shelter okay, thick thick brush okay, because it goes,
Speaker 3: it can go through brambles and everything else like no.
Speaker 2: I So there's that other.
Speaker 3: The other thing I say is this, and I said
Speaker 3: this to day in a long time ago. The number
Speaker 3: one thing you got to do when you're in the woods,
Speaker 3: you got to be absolutely still and quiet, not a sound,
Speaker 3: because if you do, if I can hear you, it
Speaker 3: can hear you. I mean, they're the world's champion hide
Speaker 3: and seek. Okay. So they have the abilities that we
Speaker 3: don't have. They have supersensus. Okay, I don't like to
Speaker 3: use that word supersensus, but that's what fits these creatures.
Speaker 3: Super strength, hearing, sight, smells, sound, okay. So it has
Speaker 3: everything we have, but and much more.
Speaker 2: Plus.
Speaker 3: I think it sees in different frequencies of light. They
Speaker 3: can use all provided or infra red I don't know,
Speaker 3: night vision, I don't know. Okay, Now, when its eyes glows,
Speaker 3: what does that tell me? There's no creature on Arth
Speaker 3: has eyes that glow in the dark on it on
Speaker 3: its own, like like it's got glasses on it. Okay,
Speaker 3: they light up, So I'm not sure what it is
Speaker 3: we're seeing. Okay, I really don't. I can tell you
Speaker 3: that the main thing you don't want to be afraid
Speaker 3: of it don't point a gun at it, because I
Speaker 3: don't think short of a bazookah, you could heart it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I think if you wound, if you wound any animal,
Speaker 3: what happens if you don't kill it, it gets me,
Speaker 3: It'll look at you every human being, every human being
Speaker 3: will be its enemy from that point on. If you
Speaker 3: find a young one, don't try to hurt it or
Speaker 3: capture it. Okay. What they need to do, I mean, look,
Speaker 3: they need to have a rich philanthropist who has an
Speaker 3: interest in this stuff. They can fund an expedition with
Speaker 3: the top people in the world in their fields, biology, zoology, anthropology,
Speaker 3: expert trackers that kind of stuff, to go out and
Speaker 3: do it all end depth at least a month or
Speaker 3: two month long investigation or maybe longer. Okay, because right now,
Speaker 3: what we have in the woods, we have a bunch
Speaker 3: of individuals like myself, like you, Dan, and others that
Speaker 3: we don't go out there are large groups of people, Okay,
Speaker 3: And I'll be honest with you. I I wouldn't take
Speaker 3: a but I've had people ask to go with me,
Speaker 3: a lot of rookies. I call them rookies. But you
Speaker 3: know I'm not out there. I mean, if they want
Speaker 3: to learn about this stuff, I can sit them down
Speaker 3: in a classroom somewhere and teach them this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to take somebody doesn't know what
Speaker 3: they're looking at or what to look for, how to
Speaker 3: act in the woods, okay, because they're not only they're
Speaker 3: putting my life it was too okay, So these are
Speaker 3: the kind of things you gotta beet Now. You mentioned
Speaker 3: about you had a sent a sample to a lab somewhere. Well,
Speaker 3: I found two sets of hairs. I sent them to
Speaker 3: the local university up here, and it can Now this
Speaker 3: is before the advent of more advanced DNA testing. They
Speaker 3: both came back unknown harm in it, unknown harm in it.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: All that means that's something on two feet that walks.
Speaker 3: It's human shape, but much bigger. Okay. I've heard stories
Speaker 3: where people are talking about uh big book can be
Speaker 3: up to twenty feet tall. I don't buy them, Okay,
Speaker 3: I say, I think ten or eleven foot is about
Speaker 3: the max. Okay, and generally it's going to be the
Speaker 3: males that are bigger than the females anyhow, Okay, Uh,
Speaker 3: the one that was up there in Creston Heights, the
Speaker 3: male is probably ten feet, probably the same one I saw,
Speaker 3: and the female was probably about eight feet so two
Speaker 3: feet short. And here's the thing about that, it was
Speaker 3: carrying something in its left arm because the depth of
Speaker 3: the infernt on the left foot was was deeper than
Speaker 3: the right by about two hundred pounds. A two pound babies.
Speaker 3: That's a big babies. But like I said, you know,
Speaker 3: if you're going to go into the woods, you got
Speaker 3: to be vigilant. You gotta be quiet. Don't wear underarm
Speaker 3: deodorant or perfumes or anything like that because it can smell. Okay,
Speaker 3: as simple as that. You know, women and women. I
Speaker 3: hate to say it like this. Women should not go
Speaker 3: into the woods when they're having their monthlies. I hate
Speaker 3: to say it like that.
Speaker 4: But it's a it's the truth. Any kind of animal,
Speaker 4: you ought not be around the horses. I've got horses,
Speaker 4: and I know, I know you're not supposed to or
Speaker 4: cattle right.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I want to ask you guys both a
Speaker 2: question because the on the lot of chat Addie Addie
Speaker 2: raw Uh, a couple of questions you to ask It
Speaker 2: kind of relate to trail cameras and this and that.
Speaker 2: But before I go into that, it's first of all,
Speaker 2: I want to ask you guys, and I'm sure some
Speaker 2: of the listeners and watchers on this podcast have seen
Speaker 2: it and keep up with it. Have you guys been
Speaker 2: watching Expedition big Foot.
Speaker 3: Off and on?
Speaker 2: Okay runs?
Speaker 4: I watched the run.
Speaker 3: You remember that show is primarily entertainment exactly.
Speaker 2: However, one thing I want to point out real quick,
Speaker 2: because you know, Addie on the chat is asking about
Speaker 2: game cameras and you know, you know, capturing my camera
Speaker 2: and this and that. Well, one of the things I noticed,
Speaker 2: because i'd like to see, you know, the extraritish Big
Speaker 2: Book comes out every Wednesday. A new episode comes out
Speaker 2: every Wednesday on Discovery. I said it to record, so
Speaker 2: I usually watch it on Thursday. So I watched the
Speaker 2: latest episode on the new season last night on Thursday.
Speaker 2: So one of the episodes was where Russell Accord, who
Speaker 2: I will be meeting tomorrow by the way. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: which I'm kind of excited about. You know. However, watching
Speaker 2: his lady watching the latest episode, he tried using game
Speaker 2: cameras and he figured, you know the conclusion according to
Speaker 2: the show, oh it must have must have new of
Speaker 2: my game cameras. I avoided the infrared and he walked
Speaker 2: around it. Well, pull the record. I've been using game
Speaker 2: cameras for you. Okay, so I'm very familiar about how
Speaker 2: game cameras work. My game cameras, most of my older
Speaker 2: game cameras have infrareds where all your wildlife will see
Speaker 2: the infrared. You know, Yes, they can pick up your
Speaker 2: human scent if your scent is on those cameras. But
Speaker 2: on numerous occasions, I've had bears, I've had gear, i
Speaker 2: had so many other species and animals look at my
Speaker 2: cameras when their picture is being taken. Even video like
Speaker 2: it depends on how you have a second. Most of
Speaker 2: the time I haven't set on pictures, and a majority
Speaker 2: of the time I like to have videos. But with
Speaker 2: that being said, I research cameras game cameras. I want
Speaker 2: to have the best cameras that I could afford to
Speaker 2: use out in the field. Now, with that being said,
Speaker 2: the cameras I have, they're not the most expensive, but
Speaker 2: they're pretty decent, and I will tell you that they
Speaker 2: have long range, high pixilation. When it comes to game cameras,
Speaker 2: anyone who is familiar with game cameras, you have to
Speaker 2: look at they go by pixelation on your photos and
Speaker 2: your videos. Well, with that being said, I also look
Speaker 2: at the infrared, like what gives off the infrared or
Speaker 2: the image that you could get. Well, my game cameras
Speaker 2: do not use infrared. They use what they call an
Speaker 2: invisible glow, which is less threatening and less startling to
Speaker 2: the wildline. And my game cameras usually range any from
Speaker 2: seventy to eighty plus feet in range. So what gets me.
Speaker 2: I know this is kind of off, kind of switching
Speaker 2: gears a little bit, But my thing is watching this
Speaker 2: exhibition Bigfoot. They're using all this high technology, high tech equipment,
Speaker 2: and they're using game cameras with infrared, where technology had
Speaker 2: an advanced to where you could use cameras in the
Speaker 2: woods without infrared, which does not give off a glow
Speaker 2: to the visible lie to any line life. I use that.
Speaker 2: So my question is why are they not using the
Speaker 2: same technology. It doesn't cost that much. It's inexpensive. I mean, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: My cameras are bout anywhere from fifty dollars after over
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars. But you know, you can get game
Speaker 2: cameras for two three hundred dollars. I don't spend all
Speaker 2: that much on cameras. I do, you know a little
Speaker 2: here and near. I also have game cameras that are
Speaker 2: made to I use cellular cameras. Where if my cameras
Speaker 2: are out in the woods, you know, as long as
Speaker 2: I got service and signal out there, I get the
Speaker 2: images and the video clips to my phone. Why don't
Speaker 2: they do that? You know?
Speaker 3: So let me let me just Thinknat go ahead, John,
Speaker 3: I say that because it's entertainment. They take they take
Speaker 3: camera crew into the woods. Okay, they talk the whole
Speaker 3: time in the wood with the camera crew. Okay, what
Speaker 3: do I say about the quiet and wood? Okay, they're
Speaker 3: out there, they're making enough noise. A big wood knows
Speaker 3: they're in the woods before they know that they know
Speaker 3: they're in the woods. Okay, will make too much noise.
Speaker 3: The best thing to do is what we did down
Speaker 3: by Mingo. Man find a spot, settle down off a
Speaker 3: game trail and just be quiet and not move a
Speaker 3: muscle and wait, wait, that's all you.
Speaker 4: Got to do.
Speaker 3: Be patient.
Speaker 4: What do you have to say about like having a
Speaker 4: bonfire fire or a cookout? A lot of people say
Speaker 4: they'll come close because yeah they're curious. That would be
Speaker 4: okay too. But if you go in the woods, just
Speaker 4: like if you're a bird watcher, you're not going to
Speaker 4: see very many birds. If you make a whole lot
Speaker 4: of racket. She goes somewhere and you sit down, lean
Speaker 4: against the train and you're going to see it.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, you know, Uh what was I
Speaker 3: going to say? I got some timers going on here? Dang,
Speaker 3: it just came and went see But uh.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It happened to me all the time.
Speaker 2: Don't feel that, jarn.
Speaker 3: I said, you know. But the thing is is you
Speaker 3: know again, you know it's it's an entertainment based show. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they got good equipment, stuff things of that nature. I
Speaker 3: agree with you, but you know, I really hope that
Speaker 3: somebody does capture a live bigfoot, at least a juvenile.
Speaker 3: You got a better chance, I think, to get the
Speaker 3: juvenile than an adult. But if they do, it'll put
Speaker 3: the rest a question, you know, what are what are they?
Speaker 3: Because they'll get a study and such. Okay, but you
Speaker 3: got all these shows on TV now big foot shows.
Speaker 3: There's one. I'm not even gonna mention his name, but
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what they do. Every noise they hear
Speaker 3: in the woods, every tree fall that they find in
Speaker 3: the woods, is big.
Speaker 2: Your big Foot? I'll say, not that, but b f
Speaker 2: R one b f R.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there'sts in these woods.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other thing is, let me just ask about humans
Speaker 3: when they die in the paranormal picks up their residual interjump. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think people ask have asked me why don't we
Speaker 3: find bodies of Bigfoot. Well, I think there's several reasons.
Speaker 3: One could possibly be, you know, back in the day,
Speaker 3: during Neanderthal times, in earlier Homo sapiens, they've reverted sometimes
Speaker 3: to ritualistic cannibalism.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say they eat them, they eat them.
Speaker 3: Or the other thing is they could drop their bodies
Speaker 3: down mind shafts deep in the casal we haven't found them,
Speaker 3: and or maybe maybe their bone structure as such as
Speaker 3: they they they disintegrate very quickly. Okay, we haven't found
Speaker 3: to my knowledge, we have no mainstream bigfoot hunter has
Speaker 3: found a body or bones of a big foot. Okay,
Speaker 3: uh so, and we probably won't if those reasons are
Speaker 3: the way they are. But I mean, we have a
Speaker 3: lot of minds around this area where I live, mines
Speaker 3: and caves and such like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, yes you do. Pennsylvania is loaded with them.
Speaker 2: And but that'd bes said, depends on what part of
Speaker 2: Virginia in There is a certain part of the National
Speaker 2: Forest which I've can't been researching before and haven't had
Speaker 2: experience in this particular area, which I won't mention on
Speaker 2: records has if you look on a geographical map, even
Speaker 2: the geographical map will say mine, mine, mine all over
Speaker 2: this location was known for mine here in Virginia. And
Speaker 2: it's like twenty minutes from me, you know so, And
Speaker 2: it's all deep woods that leads up to the Parkway,
Speaker 2: you know, all in the forest, you know, in the mountains.
Speaker 4: But how many times do you find a bear? You
Speaker 4: don't find a bear in the woods or bob.
Speaker 2: Exactly, actually exactly. I'm glad you brought that up, Linda,
Speaker 2: because I was gonna not to cut you off, John,
Speaker 2: But sometimes when these things bring up the mind, there
Speaker 2: is something I've been in questions and discussions with non
Speaker 2: believers and even some skeptics. Well, if Bitford doesn't exist,
Speaker 2: where is the body? Where are the remains? That's a
Speaker 2: big question among skeptics, which I respect that question, and
Speaker 2: I love that question because I come back with them
Speaker 2: with a question before I get into any conversation or discussion. Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, well kind of along the first of all,
Speaker 2: along the line with John just mentioned, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: we don't know what they do with their remains. But
Speaker 2: with that being said, again, let's question, where are the
Speaker 2: remains of a big of a bear or a mountain
Speaker 2: mined that's died of natural causes. Now, yes, I've seen
Speaker 2: dead bears on the side of the road that has
Speaker 2: been hitting my cars right up the road from us.
Speaker 2: We've had bears come through the yard here. You know,
Speaker 2: they pat through. You know, the Bluish Parkway is our backyard.
Speaker 2: You can see the mountains right here in the backyard.
Speaker 2: So you know, there's a lot of wildlifes that come
Speaker 2: through here. We have tons of deer through here. But
Speaker 2: again we've got the bears. But bears and mountain lions
Speaker 2: are a good question about. People need to think about
Speaker 2: where are those remains when they die from their national causes,
Speaker 2: because it's very rare. If any there's no doctor, there's
Speaker 2: very rare documentation, like many many years ago, where remains
Speaker 2: of one that died of national causes found in old
Speaker 2: ancient caves. They may have found remains of a bear.
Speaker 3: And this and that, But.
Speaker 2: I have a bear skull. I found a bear scal
Speaker 2: from my heights in the exploration found out in the mountains.
Speaker 2: What kills that bear? I mean it could have been
Speaker 2: old age or could have been attacked by coyotes, because yes,
Speaker 2: coyotes do attack bears. I found numerous coyotes stat with
Speaker 2: bear hair in it. So they'll find a young, weak
Speaker 2: bear or dead bear that's weak and wounded and they'll
Speaker 2: build group of aren't it you know coyotes are notorious
Speaker 2: for that. But would that be said? People need to
Speaker 2: think about that question before they ask them about where
Speaker 2: are the remains of a bigfoot that died? Think about
Speaker 2: a bear, think about a mountain lion? Where are bear
Speaker 2: remain and then yeah, I could get it out? Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead?
Speaker 3: What about elephants. Mm hmmm, they got elephant graveyards. We
Speaker 3: don't find them sometimes, right.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean would that be said, Well, you
Speaker 2: know you got to considered North America though.
Speaker 3: You know, I understand we're not getting at is it
Speaker 3: any creature can be you know, you don't have you
Speaker 3: might not be able to find any creature really based
Speaker 3: on what you just said. I mean, it's just the
Speaker 3: way it is. You don't see many. I mean unless
Speaker 3: it's something hits a rabbit on the side of the road.
Speaker 3: You don't really see dead rabbits in the woods very often.
Speaker 4: Right with kid on along the bread, it's family would
Speaker 4: come and get it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Is that they're as smart as what you say they are.
Speaker 4: They're going to get the body and they could throw
Speaker 4: them in the water. I mean they could.
Speaker 3: That's something I want to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In nineteen forty seven, there was a sighting of a
Speaker 3: big foot like creature. They didn't call it big foot,
Speaker 3: they called it a big hairy man came out of
Speaker 3: the mand River in the winter time. Okay, suppose you're
Speaker 3: not too far from where I live. And now keep
Speaker 3: this the mind. I think that sometimes they can build
Speaker 3: underneath the embankments of rivers like a cave, live up under.
Speaker 3: Who's going to notice there?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: People say there's no alligators that can survive the winter.
Speaker 3: I got news for you years this alligator and crocodilion
Speaker 3: has survived. In fact in the Pittsburgh rivers Mont Vermont, Ohio. Okay,
Speaker 3: they found live alligators that survived the winner. We're when
Speaker 3: they live up under the embankments. I think that I
Speaker 3: think is the Bigfoot is an opportunist. Where to go
Speaker 3: where I can find the best shelter. And I think
Speaker 3: you'll stay up high away from roadways, especially this time
Speaker 3: of year, because there's not much foliage on the trees. Right,
Speaker 3: there's gonna stayup high where has a good banning point.
Speaker 3: In the summer month, you might see they might come
Speaker 3: down closer to the roadway because there's leaves and stuff
Speaker 3: on trees where they can hide behind. But in the
Speaker 3: winter time, you know yourself, Dan as a hunter and
Speaker 3: me too. You can see way into the woods now, okay,
Speaker 3: because there's no foliage out there so to speak. I
Speaker 3: mean there's brushing stuff, but yeah, you can see really
Speaker 3: far out there.
Speaker 2: You know, right. One thing I want to prove out
Speaker 2: there real quick. William Nighthawk said, my people, half hour
Speaker 2: remains deeping water in cage underwater, which I agree. I
Speaker 2: believe that a lot of Native Americans had more findings back,
Speaker 2: you know, when they were more less disturbed by the Europeans,
Speaker 2: when Europeans, you know, keep over here and started invading
Speaker 2: the lands and stuff. But with that being said, today's
Speaker 2: people especially, let's talk about hunters. I've been observing of
Speaker 2: other hunters in these national forests and stuff. And when me,
Speaker 2: when I go out and hunt, you know, I take
Speaker 2: a chance. I go walk out so far, I go
Speaker 2: deep in the woods that I set up and do
Speaker 2: my hunting. However, most of these hunters will stay in
Speaker 2: an area where their dogs are doing the work, you know,
Speaker 2: or they have a group of people that will do
Speaker 2: a push and push the deer out towards them, you know,
Speaker 2: in a certain area. But a lot of these hunters
Speaker 2: today they've become I guess maybe this is the right
Speaker 2: way to put it. I don't know, I could be wrong,
Speaker 2: but they've gotten lazy. They don't go out in the woods.
Speaker 2: They don't go out in the woods like what a
Speaker 2: lot of hunters used to do. So and they're not exploring.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that don't go out looking
Speaker 2: for these locations and to explore me. I t tried
Speaker 2: by finding places that look like CA's and dens and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, because because you know, like he's like
Speaker 2: he said, these a lot of a lot of people
Speaker 2: in the back in the day have found remains. Today,
Speaker 2: you won't. You won't come across that, you won't have people.
Speaker 2: Unless you're dedicated and willing to put the time in
Speaker 2: boots on the ground, you won't have that chance. I mean,
Speaker 2: I believe a lot of us do have that chance
Speaker 2: because we're out there boots on the ground. But it
Speaker 2: takes time. It will be dedicated time, you know. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing. You know again, I'll repeat myself again
Speaker 2: that people, these hunters and people, they're not out there.
Speaker 2: There's not enough people dedicating your time to explore nature
Speaker 2: and deeping the worldness. Because again, I believe there is
Speaker 2: something to be found. It's just a matter of time
Speaker 2: and being at the right place at the right time.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the way I look at it.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's funny when my wife and I
Speaker 3: go off the drives. We take drives in the country
Speaker 3: fairly often. She's always looking so much all you looking. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's what we do. We like to take the drives.
Speaker 3: It's a relaxing thing for me, you know. But and
Speaker 3: for her she likes you know, she's my sidekick and
Speaker 3: my co investigator, you know. So but we go, we look,
Speaker 3: you know, and uh, now that I have a new
Speaker 3: hip and a new knee, I can get around a
Speaker 3: lot better than I did before. I'm partially bionic now.
Speaker 3: But uh, the thing is is that you're right. You
Speaker 3: got to get to the ground. If anybody can sit
Speaker 3: around and speculate and write books about what they think
Speaker 3: biboo is, or write about other people's cases, you know,
Speaker 3: they may not even believe what they're writing, but they're
Speaker 3: right to make money off of it. And I don't
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 3: We get out there and you put your feet on
Speaker 3: the ground, you go out there in the woods. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: you know we talked earlier about UFOs. May thirtieth, nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety I was with my first wife and who was
Speaker 3: pregnant with our third child, and our two older storldren
Speaker 3: seven and I think the other one was nine, or
Speaker 3: maybe it was a year younger. But anyhow, we're on
Speaker 3: this ridge which I took you, Dan, you and Ron
Speaker 3: and the other investigator right, and oh yeah, I'm showing
Speaker 3: my kids the constellations and down where I showed you
Speaker 3: where this thing was on the ground behind the trees
Speaker 3: was some real strong lights, okay, And I thought it
Speaker 3: was an off road vehicle at first. That's my first thoughts.
Speaker 3: You know, I was logical he'll started lifting up, come
Speaker 3: from behind the trees, and it was so bright I
Speaker 3: couldn't even look at it from three hundred feet away.
Speaker 3: It came to hover over me, and I'm walking toward
Speaker 3: with my camera in my hand. I had a four
Speaker 3: hundred film, which is not a great film, but it
Speaker 3: was like I was carried a camera back and now
Speaker 3: I carry the phone. But it came over taught me,
Speaker 3: and I was irradiated with orange light. My first wife
Speaker 3: looked like waves of heat coming down on me. I
Speaker 3: got burned. I ended up going to the hospital. You know,
Speaker 3: I told you this story before I got Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm actually glad you're bringing it back up
Speaker 2: because I was going to actually I was going to
Speaker 2: ask you to touch base on this at some point. Anyway,
Speaker 2: so go ahead and continue.
Speaker 3: Well, anyhow, so this thing was about fifty feet diameter.
Speaker 3: And the reason I know I went back up the
Speaker 3: next day and with my other investigator to Devin, and
Speaker 3: we went up and with gear on, and we had
Speaker 3: radiation gear and stuff and badges. We took a guy
Speaker 3: your kind and we walked up to where it was
Speaker 3: behind the trees on it where I took you guys up,
Speaker 3: you know, we walked up and behind her. You see
Speaker 3: how big of an area that is. And that area
Speaker 3: showed an indentation about fifty feet in diameter, and the
Speaker 3: radiation was so powerful shot that did doll off of
Speaker 3: the guy you're kind of and our badges turned the
Speaker 3: media rid. So we backed up. Well, the thing is is,
Speaker 3: we went for an hour, maybe an hour and a half.
Speaker 3: We started watching the Geiger kind of go down until
Speaker 3: it dissipated. We found after that we walked into it
Speaker 3: and we found melted plants, not bent melted. Okay, The
Speaker 3: depth of the impressions indicated a weight of around thirty tons.
Speaker 3: This thing was orange. It had two lights on the front,
Speaker 3: three windows, had retracting landing gear looked like this, like
Speaker 3: two sets of fingers going up into the edge, not
Speaker 3: like tripods, but like like this.
Speaker 2: It tilted.
Speaker 3: It was maybe fifteen to twenty feet above me at
Speaker 3: this point, and my wife and kids were screaming, get
Speaker 3: back and a jeep, get back in the jeep. Well,
Speaker 3: you know me, I got a note. I'm standing like
Speaker 3: a knucklehead looking at this thing taking pictures. It tilts
Speaker 3: down like this, and I look, and I see in
Speaker 3: the windows four creatures. And I mentioned this earlier. Three
Speaker 3: of the same size, about three feet or so, and
Speaker 3: the other one was and they were dark in color,
Speaker 3: big eyes, the grays, and one was about a head taller.
Speaker 3: It was gray, but lighter color. And it looked to
Speaker 3: me like I would have to say that was the
Speaker 3: mission commander, not the captain of the ship. Okay, Now
Speaker 3: it zipped away with this whole time there was no sound.
Speaker 3: I just got filt. This tremendous heat on me. Now
Speaker 3: I wore a jeans or a baseball cap, which I
Speaker 3: always do wear a T shirt and jeans. Everywhere my
Speaker 3: skin was exposed and cluding my hair on the side
Speaker 3: was falling. I got I went down. Well now, so
Speaker 3: I ran back to the dripped off the side of
Speaker 3: the road. About three hundred feet and it was jerking
Speaker 3: like this. Okay, it was an orange hemispherical dish. So
Speaker 3: I fall. Now the roads were rewind, as you know,
Speaker 3: because I took you there, and it came down around
Speaker 3: to turn and disappeared. So I took my My wife
Speaker 3: and kids were terrified, so you know, I took them
Speaker 3: down to my brother's house and we came back up
Speaker 3: in his suv and he had fully charged uh remember
Speaker 3: those big camporders, the great big ones. Oh yeah, three
Speaker 3: fully charged battery. So we don't see one ufo, we
Speaker 3: see three triangle or shape formation hovering. So we started filming.
Speaker 3: We got five seconds of film from the first and
Speaker 3: the battery died fully charged battery. Second he slapped another battery.
Speaker 3: In three seconds it dies. Third battery goes in. It
Speaker 3: dies immediately and the lights go off on a vehicle
Speaker 3: when it did. The one is the talk went straight up.
Speaker 3: The other two went to the right and left. Okay,
Speaker 3: So my brother Ralph took me to the hospital, which
Speaker 3: is the old Brownsville Hospital, and he said, on the way,
Speaker 3: where are you going to tell the doctor's happening? Because
Speaker 3: your skin's falling off and everything else. I said, I'll
Speaker 3: tell him I fall asleep under ultra violet lamb. He says,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I said, well, I have to tell him.
Speaker 3: He says, you can't tell me. You was that by UFO.
Speaker 3: So I go to the hospital. I go to the
Speaker 3: emergency room and the doctor said, what happened? And I said,
Speaker 3: I fall asleep under ultra violet lamp. He told me,
Speaker 3: He said, to decide. He says, you're sticking to that story.
Speaker 3: He treated them for a third and second degree burns
Speaker 3: over every place was exposed to me. Now, just so
Speaker 3: you know, I developed cancer, okay, which I still got
Speaker 3: to go every three months or so get blood work
Speaker 3: to see if it's gone. And my on callist himself,
Speaker 3: a UFO witness, said I was exposed to some type
Speaker 3: of ionizing radiation which caused my cancer. Okay. So that's
Speaker 3: the long and short of it. I thought that cancer.
Speaker 3: Now it's going on ten eleven years. I guess eight
Speaker 3: and a half. At first, I was on chemo which
Speaker 3: destroyed my right hip, my teeth, and my knee, okay,
Speaker 3: and so I had to get them all replaced. And
Speaker 3: these are false by the way, and it's called me
Speaker 3: gummy when they're not in But uh, like I said,
Speaker 3: I had fifty six doses of high intensity radiation to
Speaker 3: kill the cancer. No one's ever survived fifty six doses
Speaker 3: at Heillmet Cancer Center here in Washington. They called me Superman. Okay,
Speaker 3: thirty five to thirty eight is the maximum dose. But
Speaker 3: I survived. But I still got to go every three
Speaker 3: months or so to give blood work, Okay, just to
Speaker 3: make sure he hasn't returned. Now, I saw these creatures.
Speaker 3: I went under hip and blotic regression too. My friend
Speaker 3: and I both we had missing time. I don't want
Speaker 3: to get into that because it's getting kind of late.
Speaker 3: It's almost it's working on ten o'clock. But maybe we
Speaker 3: can do this again in the near future. You know
Speaker 3: you're interested in this, but I suffice it to say
Speaker 3: I got into the paranormal field primarily for UFOs and
Speaker 3: alien and alien inductions. I've talked to people who are abducted.
Speaker 3: I myself started as an abductee when I was five
Speaker 3: years of age. I have marks on me on my
Speaker 3: right ankle I got when I was five years old,
Speaker 3: and identical one on my right wrist, which is still
Speaker 3: the end of this day. I don't do drugs. I
Speaker 3: don't smoke and I rarely ever drink. Okay, now, the
Speaker 3: person who set up my hypnotic aggressions was Stan Gordon.
Speaker 3: I used to belong in his group. I was an
Speaker 3: investigator in his group, and they set it up with
Speaker 3: a man who was a thirty year veteran of the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh City Police Force who was into forensic hypno regression
Speaker 3: for witnesses and victims' memories. When I got done with that,
Speaker 3: we have the tape here somewhere, he said. I was
Speaker 3: a real deal, so was my friend. You're both taken.
Speaker 3: I know this sounds crazy and for a fetch, but
Speaker 3: you know, if you're listening to this show right now,
Speaker 3: you must be interested in some of this stuff, okay,
Speaker 3: or you won't be listening to it. You're not on
Speaker 3: here just to simply say you're bud idiots, the liars. Okay,
Speaker 3: But yeah, I like to get in down the road further.
Speaker 3: But like I said, I don't want to take too
Speaker 3: much more time up, but I want Linda to talk
Speaker 3: more about what her experiences were, what she felt about it,
Speaker 3: and what she felt sense about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean we have it currently, right, now.
Speaker 2: We have a good steady flow of listeners right now,
Speaker 2: so it's been averaging for fourteen people. That doesn't mean
Speaker 2: there's other people watching her so and plus, for the record,
Speaker 2: I want to state this too, even though we're we
Speaker 2: are currently live right now, this episode will be recorded
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Speaker 2: we will have this on the ecb R big for
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Speaker 2: is something new we're doing. We're gonna start going live
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Speaker 2: So here we are on YouTube. We're live on YouTube
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Speaker 2: because it adds a lot to these discussions and these interviews.
Speaker 2: So thank you guys very much for that. But yeah, Linda,
Speaker 2: is there anything you want to throw in there with
Speaker 2: what the genres relating to you?
Speaker 4: I think we've covered most of it, but does anybody
Speaker 4: have any questions about my encounter. I've had a lot
Speaker 4: of people since I've been telling this. It's only been
Speaker 4: since twenty and seventeen and I've come forward, but I've
Speaker 4: had a lot of people just blatantly say I don't
Speaker 4: believe you.
Speaker 2: You know, Oh, you're going to get that. You're going
Speaker 2: to get that.
Speaker 4: You got to develop a tough scan. It takes a
Speaker 4: lot of courage to come forward and tell I mean,
Speaker 4: my life, I've been this way all my life. I
Speaker 4: saw my guardian angel when I was three. Some things
Speaker 4: happened to me when I was twelve that validated that
Speaker 4: that's exactly who I saw. And then I was sixteen
Speaker 4: when I saw Maltman, and then I took some time off,
Speaker 4: I guess, and raised a family and worked, and then
Speaker 4: I started having lifebacks. And I've had therapy for all
Speaker 4: the things I've been through.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 4: I guess you could say I'm a clairvoyant, and I've
Speaker 4: had dreams that have come true. I can meet people
Speaker 4: and be able to tell them about themselves. I don't
Speaker 4: really consider consider myself a healer, but I can tell
Speaker 4: if somebody is ill with something or and then I
Speaker 4: can connect with spirits. A lot of times I'll just
Speaker 4: go to the store and I'll be drawn to someone
Speaker 4: and start talking to him. And I feel that God
Speaker 4: uses me as a conduit to reach other people and
Speaker 4: to help other people. But it really was hard when
Speaker 4: I was in high school. I mean I was sixteen
Speaker 4: when this happened. I graduated when I was seventeen, and
Speaker 4: I was teased a lot for, you know, for the
Speaker 4: way that I was. I could hear other people's thoughts,
Speaker 4: heal other people's emotions, and I'm still that way. But
Speaker 4: get I think that well. I come from a long
Speaker 4: line of people. I don't like to use the psychic,
Speaker 4: but my mother was new things. Maybe the power of
Speaker 4: discernments more likely, but my dad's mother was that way,
Speaker 4: so I had it on both sides of the family,
Speaker 4: but growing up with it was really hard. And I
Speaker 4: think in my forties, after I had my kids and
Speaker 4: they were in school and stuff, my psychic abilities really
Speaker 4: took off and I knew things and I could tell
Speaker 4: the future and you know, but mostly the power of discernment.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's all connected or it
Speaker 4: seems like a lot of people that have these encounters
Speaker 4: with Bigfoot also have encounters with other creatures like I
Speaker 4: did with the mouth man and are able to see spirits.
Speaker 4: I see spirits. I've seen several spirits here the house.
Speaker 4: If it makes anybody feel better, I've seen animal spirits.
Speaker 4: So I know that our pets go go on and
Speaker 4: a lot of times they're just right around here with us.
Speaker 4: And I feel things. I hear things, and I know things,
Speaker 4: and you can't help it if you're that way. And
Speaker 4: if someone says, oh, I don't believe you, well I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe if they just took a little bit
Speaker 4: of time, and you know, I think going out into
Speaker 4: nature and getting to you know, getting to know more
Speaker 4: about animals and plants and different things that makes you
Speaker 4: appreciate those abilities, and I think that you just sort
Speaker 4: of become more real, I think, living closer to nature.
Speaker 4: But if anybody has any questions, I'd be glad to
Speaker 4: try and answer if I can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, William nihawking, Linda, I get that all that time.
Speaker 2: You you and John could talk on my show anytime.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's something. If you're not familiar with William
Speaker 2: Nighthawk High Strangers, Uh, he's got an awesome show. He
Speaker 2: covers everything from paranormal to uh conspiracy theories and although
Speaker 2: we do get into that discussion on the show too,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I encourage you to check out William Nighthawk's
Speaker 2: show and perhaps getting connected with him. Will That being said, also,
Speaker 2: I do want to throw out there because Addie Raw
Speaker 2: is talking about you know, he would love to talk
Speaker 2: on the show as well. If you want to meet up.
Speaker 2: If you are not on my Facebook page, Daniel Benoir
Speaker 2: b E n O I T I'm the founder of
Speaker 2: the e C b r O the East Coast Bigfook
Speaker 2: Researchers the organization. Feel free to send me an email
Speaker 2: if you want to be on the show at ecb
Speaker 2: RO ninety eight at gmail dot com we'll get into
Speaker 2: the discussion. I'll respond to you when I'm able to. However,
Speaker 2: we'll get your scheduled to be on here. But from
Speaker 2: here on out, as long as it works out, I
Speaker 2: am going to continue to do a live broadcast even
Speaker 2: though these episodes will be uploaded to the radio show.
Speaker 2: And we got another live radio show, a live show
Speaker 2: tomorrow on right here on YouTube. It's going to be
Speaker 2: a big foot raund able discussion with yours truly, Melissa
Speaker 2: and David Lester, who are also now part of my
Speaker 2: co host and also for those who know Nicki Cologne
Speaker 2: Nicki Coloone from Texas, she will be joining us tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: same time we start at eight pm Eastern Standard time.
Speaker 2: We hope that you guys could join us tomorrow night
Speaker 2: and we will be live again. And then also all
Speaker 2: these episodes that are live on YouTube now we'll be
Speaker 2: on the ECBR Big For Radio platform. So I encourage
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Speaker 2: more that we can talk about and discuss. We can
Speaker 2: go on and on and on because I mean our
Speaker 2: guests like David I mean excuse me, uh, John and Linda,
Speaker 2: I mean, they have so much information they can probably
Speaker 2: talk about. We can go on and on and on
Speaker 2: and uh. But again, if you guys have questions before
Speaker 2: we jump off air here, please ask away. We encourage
Speaker 2: you guys to ask questions and participate. What you guys
Speaker 2: been doing great tonight. I want to thank you guys.
Speaker 2: You guys have been amazing on the live chat. So
Speaker 2: if there's any all the last minute questions from anybody,
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. Our guests are right
Speaker 2: here on standby, so we'll sit tight here. But while
Speaker 2: you guys come up with questions, I am going to
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Speaker 2: All Right, jumping ahead into the month of June. Boy,
Speaker 2: do we have some awesome stuff going on in June. Again.
Speaker 2: I hope you're marking this down and I hope you
Speaker 2: prepare yourself to attend these events. June sixth, seventh, and
Speaker 2: eighth Happening in Marionville, Pennsylvania, the Forest County Bigfoot Festival.
Speaker 6: The event that's grown so huge it's unbelievable. You're gonna
Speaker 6: want to attend this event? Over one hundred vendors, food trucks,
Speaker 6: and guest speakers. This event is something you want to attend,
Speaker 6: not to mention. If you'd like to go squatching. There
Speaker 6: is the Allegaty National State Forest nearby. You're gonna want
Speaker 6: to check that forest out.
Speaker 2: It's very squashy. June twentieth and twenty first, Happening in
Speaker 2: Where's Cave, Virginia at the Where's K Community Center is
Speaker 2: the annual ECBRO Virginia big Foot Conference. Yes, it's right there,
Speaker 2: being held at the Community Center and Where's Cay, Virginia.
Speaker 2: Both indoor and outdoor vendors, guest speakers, fun activity, and
Speaker 2: contest for the kids. You're gonna want to check this out.
Speaker 2: If you've never been to this event, it's very fun.
Speaker 2: You get to meet up with other light minded people,
Speaker 2: get to go out and hang out with them in.
Speaker 6: The evens around them fire. If you're get that special invite,
Speaker 6: you get to have a lot more.
Speaker 2: You're gonna want to check that out.
Speaker 6: And start becoming a part of that event, because that
Speaker 6: is not just in an event, it's like a family gathering.
Speaker 2: That's June twentieth and twenty first, So feel free to
Speaker 2: check that out and ladies, john women. Happening in the
Speaker 2: month of June. Also June twenty sixth, twenty seventh, and
Speaker 2: twenty eighth happening in Sutton, West Virginia, is the annual
Speaker 2: Western Virginia Have Bigfoot Festival. Another massive, huge festival with
Speaker 2: over one hundred a venders, all kinds of activity and
Speaker 2: fun and contests for kids and people of all ages.
Speaker 6: Guest speakers, celebrities, people you're gonna want to get to.
Speaker 2: Know and get to meet and learn Rome Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys are taking the time to mark
Speaker 2: these dates and these locations down. If you have any
Speaker 2: questions regarding any of these events, send an email to
Speaker 2: ecbro ninety eight at gmail dot com. So, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: with those events that were just advertising promoted a couple
Speaker 2: of events, I'll be at all the events mentioned in
Speaker 2: the month of June. Forrest County Bigfoot Festival in Marionville, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be an event I myself will be speaking
Speaker 2: at along with those who know Biker bit but aka
Speaker 2: Ron House will both be speaking there at that event,
Speaker 2: Chief of mine. That event has celebrity personnel there. The
Speaker 2: Mountain Loss will be there along with Turtleman for those
Speaker 2: who know the show from Animal Planet, Turtleman will be there. However,
Speaker 2: if you want real boots on the ground researchers, I
Speaker 2: encourage you to come out and listen to me and
Speaker 2: Ron House. We're actually scheduled to speak on Sunday, June eighth,
Speaker 2: will be there speaking. They got to schedule me and John.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Me and Ron speaking on June eighth, So
Speaker 2: coming up with June eighth. Forget the other guys because
Speaker 2: you can watch them anytime on TV. They're all a
Speaker 2: bunch of celebrity clowns anyway, So I'm a little I'm
Speaker 2: a little biased, but you know what, I'm gonna speak
Speaker 2: my mind. I don't give a fuck. If you want
Speaker 2: to listen to a bunch of clowns, come out June
Speaker 2: seventh and eighty. I don't care in June sixth seven,
Speaker 2: But me and Ron the real deal will be there
Speaker 2: on the eighth.
Speaker 4: So but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little blunt when it comes to that
Speaker 2: because I guess perhaps my I had a few beers tonight,
Speaker 2: so you know, I'm a little outspoken.
Speaker 4: Well, but yeah, the Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: That's right absolutely, June twentieth and twenty first, the event
Speaker 2: that I always right here in Virginia and where's came
Speaker 2: the angul E cb R O Virginia Big Preconference. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of fun this year. So you
Speaker 2: know what, not only do we have all the coolest vendors,
Speaker 2: the food trucks, the guest speakers, We're gonna have the
Speaker 2: Renaissance with us, We're gonna have the renaissance in Middle
Speaker 2: Evil Group with us. They're gonna be doing battles and demos.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, everybody, if you come out to that,
Speaker 2: you're in for a treat. John. For those who listened
Speaker 2: to John tonight, John's gonna be one of our guest
Speaker 2: speakers this year. I'm excited to have John with us.
Speaker 2: John was one of my speakers in Pennsylvania when I
Speaker 2: held the Pennsylvania event, and uh, but he's gonna be
Speaker 2: here in Virginia and you'll have the opportunity to listen
Speaker 2: to John, ask questions and John meet John. His wife
Speaker 2: is gonna be there. She's gonna be set up because
Speaker 2: John and his wife will have your own boots. All
Speaker 2: of our speakers will have a booth where you get
Speaker 2: the chance to meet them and check out their merchandise
Speaker 2: and all that cool stuff. John, I'm excited to.
Speaker 4: Have you there.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm glad you and your wife are coming down.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm gonna be in the renaissance then fighting
Speaker 3: the battles. I want to be, Sir. John talks a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, Oh my, absolutely, Yeah, it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: great time here. So yeah, these events that I see
Speaker 2: people jumping on it and talking. You know, there's there's
Speaker 2: people asking all the questions. Aren't here already that we
Speaker 2: will I'm just now I'm just now seeing but type Yah, the.
Speaker 4: Ohio Bigfoot Conference. I don't know if you guys are
Speaker 4: go to that. That's Salt Fork. Uh the third and
Speaker 4: fourth of May.
Speaker 2: Well repeat that again.
Speaker 4: The Ohio Bigfoot Conference. Oh kay, it's Salt Fork. Lad.
Speaker 4: I think the name of that town, oh, I know
Speaker 4: it of is salt Fork.
Speaker 2: Okay, give me one second year? Uh, I have been
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a good conference.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have not been there since the Ohio Big
Speaker 2: for Conference. I've been there in twenty seventeen, which was
Speaker 2: a great I mean yeah, that was six years ago
Speaker 2: about six years old. Yeah, I attended that. That's the
Speaker 2: only time I've remember I actually been to the Ohio
Speaker 2: Big For conference was in twenty seventeen. So yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a great time. I had a great time. I
Speaker 2: met so many people. And what was cool about attendity
Speaker 2: Ohio Big For conference because you know, you've only known
Speaker 2: so many people online, you know, and you never met them.
Speaker 2: I'm bad at recognizing people in person, but I've had
Speaker 2: so many people when I went to Ohio Big For
Speaker 2: conference in twenty seventeen, I've met so many people come
Speaker 2: up to me, said Daniel. Daniel, but why is that you?
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, how you doing? And they were introduceous
Speaker 2: and I said, oh, you know, so it was cool.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people recognized me from social media,
Speaker 2: which was awesome, and you know, I'm bad about doing that,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I try to keep an eye
Speaker 2: out for certain people. Although I did recognize some people
Speaker 2: and I went up for them because you know, some
Speaker 2: people look like who they appear to be on social media.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was It was a great time at
Speaker 2: the Ohio big Foot Conference. And I encourage you anybody
Speaker 2: which I would love to get out there in Ohio again,
Speaker 2: but I don't see it happening this year because there's
Speaker 2: something else we're working on in the month of May,
Speaker 2: because well, forirst of all, we got our group camp
Speaker 2: out or ECBR Bigfoot camp Out investigation happening May. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in the month of May. May. Oh man, what's my dates?
Speaker 2: I don't have eighteenth of the twenty fourth or something
Speaker 2: like that. And uh, anyway, and but earlier in the month,
Speaker 2: we're we're organizing a Bigfoot group. Uh, it's more of
Speaker 2: a gathering. The location we're we're planning on doing the
Speaker 2: gap thing, which I have yet to confirm the location. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's going to be in the general area where we've
Speaker 2: been investigating. So when we put that out there, I
Speaker 2: have to confirm it with the people. I have to
Speaker 2: reserve the spot for. But uh, it's going to be
Speaker 2: in the mother of May. We plan on doing maybe
Speaker 2: a simple cookout. Well, we're going to reach out to
Speaker 2: the community in that area. We want people to come
Speaker 2: forward if they have a big Foot story or something
Speaker 2: they can explain. That's gonna be along the lines of
Speaker 2: a basically a Bigfoot town hall gathering, but it's going
Speaker 2: to be outdoors. We plan on doing a simple cookout
Speaker 2: hot dogs and hamburgers.
Speaker 3: We did this a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: So hey John, all I understand, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Linda's looking forward to meeting you.
Speaker 2: Did awesome, Thank you John. Right. So yeah, with that
Speaker 2: being said, uh yeah, we'll be working on putting that
Speaker 2: out regrets standing on reaching out to the people that
Speaker 2: are in charge of for me to make those reservations.
Speaker 2: So but that's something we got going on in the
Speaker 2: early week early part of May is in Funks Run, Virginia.
Speaker 2: We plan on reaching out to those who had that
Speaker 2: had a big Buck experience. We want to hear from you,
Speaker 2: So we'll be working on that very soon. But again,
Speaker 2: month of May is also our Bigfoot camp out investigation
Speaker 2: in the very same area we camp out back in October.
Speaker 2: We've actually had some very squatchy activity. We found some
Speaker 2: really great stuff. One of the group members of that
Speaker 2: camp out actually had had a sighting during that time.
Speaker 2: So we know that there's squatches in this area. We've
Speaker 2: had I've had reports from people in this area years ago,
Speaker 2: and I know it's a very active location. And the
Speaker 2: thing is reports from this area you will you will
Speaker 2: not find them on the BFR database because these people
Speaker 2: are these are country folk, mountain folk that do not
Speaker 2: jump on the b f R O. These people don't.
Speaker 4: Want you know, people don't want people coming to their
Speaker 4: house and messing around and stuff. So and then you
Speaker 4: know they may be made fun of so.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then but you know, because you know, I've come
Speaker 2: to know a lot of the people in this area
Speaker 2: and they will only came forward to share their stories,
Speaker 2: and so I know what's going on in this area.
Speaker 2: And that's another reason why we chose this area. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, this is very over I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: like my main research area is a lot of woods,
Speaker 2: is remote, you get a lot of campers in the area.
Speaker 2: But then again, this particular area same part of the
Speaker 2: National Forest, but you're a little bit more any out
Speaker 2: of Rim towards the West Virginia area. You're in the mountains.
Speaker 2: And you know, even though it's in Virginia, there's people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they right, they rather to keith them themselves, you know,
Speaker 2: which I respect that. But you know, just from exploring
Speaker 2: this area, we've come to realize there's there's definitely something
Speaker 2: there and not just that this is an area where
Speaker 2: we decided to start filming our upcoming bigfoot series that
Speaker 2: will be on YouTube right here on YouTube on e
Speaker 2: CBR or Bigfoot Radio or ecb R Bigfoot Zone. We're
Speaker 2: gonna be doing this series called Bigfoot Explorers. Uh yeah, absolutely, Well,
Speaker 2: we're gonna start filming in me. It's gonna We're gonna
Speaker 2: start filming. During our investigation. We got some how we've
Speaker 2: been touching base Melissa and David that are on the
Speaker 2: line chat. They are a big part of this.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: They're part of my research team and they're also you know,
Speaker 2: of course my new co host of ecb R Bigfoot Radio.
Speaker 2: They you know, we've been, I've in this discussion. I've
Speaker 2: been you know, running some ideas across to David. And
Speaker 2: one of the things we definitely plan on doing, uh
Speaker 2: is doing some steakouts, which we didn't get to do
Speaker 2: last year or I shouldn't feel last year back in October,
Speaker 2: which I want to take this a little bit more serious.
Speaker 2: I want to go a little deeper, because again, there
Speaker 2: are some things in this area that people don't realize
Speaker 2: that's there. And I'm not just talking about Bigfoot, but
Speaker 2: there's actually this area here is rich with mountain lion
Speaker 2: sightings in this general area too.
Speaker 4: So I mean talking about the panthers sidings.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, all the above black panthers, even even the
Speaker 2: tan color mountain lions. Uh, they've been sighting in this area,
Speaker 2: just on the other side of the mountain ridge from
Speaker 2: this location, uh, from farmers and stuff. So uh so
Speaker 2: that's a big thing to me. Bigfoot and mountain lions
Speaker 2: in this area. That's to me, that's a big thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, we've had panther sidings not too far from here,
Speaker 4: a couple of them that I know of. And then
Speaker 4: up above Marietta just last.
Speaker 2: Year there's been some Oh okay, yeah nice Now I
Speaker 2: mean in Virginia. Yeah, yeah, I would love to capture
Speaker 2: a mountain lyon on my cameras. I have bobcats, you know,
Speaker 2: pat bobcats twice on my cameras. But one of them
Speaker 2: was just walking along the creek and the other one
Speaker 2: happened to be following behind where a white tailed deer
Speaker 2: was passion through. On my camera, the white tail deer
Speaker 2: passed through, and then just a brief moment later you
Speaker 2: see the bob early Jesus sided bobcat passing along right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: from what I've seen from hunters, the bobcats in West
Speaker 2: Virginia tend to be a little bit larger, you know, so.
Speaker 4: They have long legs. My daughter catches them on her
Speaker 4: trail came. She lives about probably about five miles from me.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, yeah, very nice, awesome.
Speaker 4: Good one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so yeah, we've got some research and investigations
Speaker 2: coming up because you know, the month of May will
Speaker 2: not only be the only month when I go to Marionville,
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania for the Forest County Big Festival. They got me
Speaker 2: booked in the hotel from the first couple of nights,
Speaker 2: and then there's a location about forty minutes away from
Speaker 2: where the festival is being held. I plan on spending
Speaker 2: at least a couple of nights in a very remote
Speaker 2: location and which is very interesting because it's not far
Speaker 2: from a waterfall. But the area our researches, yeah, our
Speaker 2: research with location, I mapped it out very well, and
Speaker 2: there's bigfoot reports in this general area. So I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm going to camp there for a couple of nights
Speaker 2: and see what happens, and you know, I'll document everything
Speaker 2: I can that but from here, starting in May, from
Speaker 2: here and from there on now I will be documenting
Speaker 2: and I'll be filming and doing the art, you know,
Speaker 2: working on our film series for Bigfoot Explorers.
Speaker 4: Congratulations, I didn't know you even do that. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely absolutely Yeah. Like I said, the film series
Speaker 2: will be right here on the YouTube channel UH on
Speaker 2: ecbor eac Borrow big pot Zone. But the series will
Speaker 2: be titled Bigfoot Explorers, and UH, We're gonna see how
Speaker 2: it works out on the views and everything on UH
Speaker 2: on the YouTube channel. If we get a big enough following,
Speaker 2: we may keep it on YouTube. Uh. At the following
Speaker 2: and just you know, and people subscribe and continue to grow,
Speaker 2: we'll keep it on YouTube, uh because there's a network
Speaker 2: I was considering working with. However, I think they may
Speaker 2: benefit benefit us more if we keep it on the
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. So we'll see how it turns out. If
Speaker 2: you're a subscriber or if you have not subscribed, we
Speaker 2: encourage you to do so because starting May, things are
Speaker 2: gonna get very interesting our YouTube chare. This series will
Speaker 2: not be it will not be what's the word Book
Speaker 2: of War, It will not be scripted. Everything will be
Speaker 2: as is, so the only editing that will be is
Speaker 2: putting the film clips together. You know, I yours throughly
Speaker 2: will be doing the film editing. So I have a
Speaker 2: film software that I deal with that I've been working with,
Speaker 2: and I've got fairly expensive equipment that I need to
Speaker 2: put to use more which will be used during these
Speaker 2: fielding episodes in the series.
Speaker 4: So well, good luck. I lete you'll find something.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely and real quick before we jump off here
Speaker 2: right here, I was questioned about if anyone wanted to
Speaker 2: get in contact with me about being on the show,
Speaker 2: my email. Please send me an email to e C
Speaker 2: b R ninety eight at gmail dot com. Uh, let's talk.
Speaker 2: Tell me what you want to talk about. If you
Speaker 2: have an experience, I want to hear from you. Uh,
Speaker 2: that's what this is all about. E cb R O
Speaker 2: ninety eight at gmail dot com. We'll get you on
Speaker 2: on here. We'll have a great discussion and so much more.
Speaker 2: But for those who've been watching and listening, thank you
Speaker 2: guys very much. Linda, I can't thank you enough for
Speaker 2: being on here again. If you've been a few times now,
Speaker 2: so it's been great out there.
Speaker 4: You know, just keep your eyes on the skies and
Speaker 4: get your butt out there and in the woods and
Speaker 4: get look. You never know what you're going to find.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely both. Definitely thank you Dan, oh you
Speaker 2: you as well. Thank you again and everybody to keep
Speaker 2: us watching until next time. This is Daniel Begoon with
Speaker 2: Big for Zone, e CBRO and e Cbro Big for Radio.