1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Lots of stuff that might not be happening is in 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,360 the Sony Marvel versus. So this weekend, obviously Venom three 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,960 came out. You can go check out our review. Thinking 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,679 to everyone that did it had its lowest opening, Taylor, 5 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:13,039 you had it at. 6 00:00:12,839 --> 00:00:13,519 Speaker 2: I think it was. 7 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:16,679 Speaker 1: I think you were like sixty eight or seventy. I 8 00:00:16,719 --> 00:00:20,079 listened back, You're somewhere in the higher sixties or low seventies. 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,000 And then I said I was fifty five but actually 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,640 opened at fifty one. Now here's the thing. It's not 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,480 like a complete joke or two situation, because for some reason, 12 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:30,440 I think it's for like North American films, or at 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,560 least Supero films. Venom had the biggest opening in China 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,159 since twenty nineteen. I guess you just loves, you know, 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,159 the Venom character. So the way it's projected now, we're 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,079 not sure what it's gonna be like in week two. 17 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:44,640 I think it's probably gonna have like a sixty percent 18 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:45,359 drop pretty big. 19 00:00:45,399 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be a joker too big, But it. 20 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,079 Speaker 1: Looks like the domestic box office kind of crapping out. 21 00:00:50,119 --> 00:00:52,640 If people don't remember, there's long term tracking of one 22 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,280 hundred million weekend, and then it was ninety eighty and 23 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,320 then sixty seventy, and then I was like, well, you know, 24 00:00:57,439 --> 00:01:00,840 fifty five sixty five came in below all those expectations, 25 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,200 but because of the international, it's still doing like well enough. 26 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,879 I don't think other than China's doing like gang Busters. 27 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,920 It's billion dollar a film, but it looks like it'll 28 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,120 still at least be profitable. But it's definitely gonna be 29 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:15,000 maybe more I don't know, maybe like that four hundred 30 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:18,760 range somewhere in there. So now at least because who 31 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:21,640 knows international, maybe you put on another one again and 32 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:25,319 it like, maybe it makes enough profit where they go, hey, 33 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:28,680 this is good enough, we're still making money. 34 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,599 Speaker 2: We'll put out one more and see. 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,159 Speaker 1: But usually we've always said this where okay, all these 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,120 other films don't work, but then always comes out makes 37 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,519 some money, where Okay, this is probably gonna make a profit. 38 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:39,239 It will make a profit, especially when it goes to 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,000 stream and everything, but it's not like the runaway success. 40 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,280 I'm speaking to us in the future because we don't 41 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,439 know this, but I think we're all just assuming Craven's 42 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,840 gonna eat it. So what do you think and we 43 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,439 have a fun question from here from Mike, But what 44 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,560 do you think is like, what is the step to 45 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,680 if Craven were to eat it and do really poor? 46 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,560 What is the step? Do you run Venom back one 47 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:04,760 more time and try k could we go for this? 48 00:02:05,239 --> 00:02:08,960 Do you pull up a somehow make that Spider Man 49 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,759 connection work? 50 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,159 Speaker 2: Or does is it Sony? 51 00:02:11,199 --> 00:02:13,719 Speaker 1: And do they just keep like throwing stuff at the 52 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:15,360 wall because the thing is remember with I think it's 53 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,240 like every five years they gotta have like a Spider 54 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,319 Man live action film. 55 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: So do they not care? 56 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,159 Speaker 1: Are they just gonna look at this go well, maybe 57 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:24,120 people are just tired of Venom. Let's move on to 58 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,319 Black Cat or doc Owk or Green Goblin, Like do 59 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:27,599 you what do. 60 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: You think Sony's gonna do now? 61 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,159 Speaker 1: If Venom finally has like started to buckle and show. Okay, 62 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,479 these are not as profful as used to be. It's 63 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,879 kind of the like Marvel's Venom Joker. We don't know 64 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:40,520 how big a crash yet, but still pretty big. The 65 00:02:40,599 --> 00:02:42,639 opening weekends for the first one was eighty and then 66 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:45,879 second one was ninety. Does a forty million drop so 67 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,000 clearly whether it's combook fatigue or whether I think it's 68 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:51,599 just people hire maybe had enough of Venom movies. They're 69 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,960 starting to back way. What do you think is next? 70 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,479 Or the number four of like which we're gonna talk 71 00:02:56,479 --> 00:02:58,680 about Mike's question, is there a chance? Could do you 72 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,479 think they get just start a new and okay, let's 73 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:02,719 start entirely over, like what do you think of Sony 74 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:06,280 does come twenty twenty five once Craven eats it? 75 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: Because I guess if. 76 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: Craven does well, I think they would just We're fine, 77 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,719 Craven's are new Venom, We're gonna pump it out. 78 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: But I don't think it's gonna do that. 79 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:19,439 Speaker 3: So yeah, so I Craven's not going to do great, 80 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:23,759 let's just face it. I mean, it's that's it. It's 81 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,960 a fact. I'd be super super surprised, and I'll eat 82 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,919 my words if I am proven wrong. But I just 83 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,560 don't think it's going to do great. Based on the 84 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:31,680 history and the trajectory of these movies. I think the 85 00:03:31,759 --> 00:03:35,840 general maybe not GA, but just the general population kind 86 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:39,919 of knows that these are not technically the same as 87 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:43,520 Marvel MCU films are. Well, it's definitely all encompassed to 88 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,400 the same umbrella. Now, I think a lot of individuals 89 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:48,919 just know that it's different. And again a lot of 90 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,800 people think that, Okay, Marvel itself, the MCU isn't really 91 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,680 on a high pedestal right now either. Sure it had 92 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,599 a big hit with Dead Pulm Wolverine, but it's still 93 00:03:55,639 --> 00:04:00,280 been kind of trying to find its place again the 94 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:06,599 Avengers Endgame film. So there's that. But yeah, I think afterwards, 95 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:09,639 I think that you either have to start working more 96 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,080 heavily with Five Eye and with the MCU with your 97 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:16,120 characters like they did with Spider Man, and that really 98 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,279 paid off, because I mean when you look at Spider 99 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,519 Man No Way Home, and that's that's a prime example 100 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,160 of how how good that's a trilogy too, right, It's 101 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,240 just great, And that shows. 102 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: What they're do that's right. 103 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:31,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, that's absolutely right. So I think if 104 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,959 if they kind of pump the brakes a little bit, 105 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,839 and maybe they already know preemptively that Okay, our Crabit 106 00:04:36,879 --> 00:04:39,000 movie is not probably going to do the greatest. Venom 107 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,439 three isn't doing the greatest right now, so maybe that's 108 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:44,199 why they're like, Okay, let's work with Marvel. Let's get 109 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:47,639 that Spider Man four release day, the information everything out 110 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,000 there sooner than later, which they've done just to kind 111 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,920 of like help pull people's attention to that, and maybe 112 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,079 that's when they stop doing all these solo movies. I 113 00:04:56,079 --> 00:04:57,680 remember back in the day when we were talking about 114 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,399 how ope they announced a metim web project. It's like, what, 115 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,519 and it's gonna have its own type of Spider Man, 116 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:05,399 villain guy or whatever in there. Just it seems so 117 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,319 like shocking. Craving The Hunter and all these different spinoffs. 118 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,120 It was like, you know, it's cool, but there's not 119 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,839 really enough of like a foothold for these different characters. 120 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,319 And I think that's the hardest part, because Spider Man 121 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,720 is definitely rooted as like the he's the core character 122 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,439 for most of these storylines. But to give a trilogy 123 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,480 to Venom with no Spider Man in there, just as 124 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:27,240 it's kind of weird, and it just feels like it's 125 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,600 a very prolonged story. Venom three at its core feels 126 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,000 like it could be like a couple episodes of a 127 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,120 TV show. It does not. It kind of blows me 128 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,279 away that it's a folding length feature film. 129 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:39,959 Speaker 1: Especially because I assume not everybody stays for these, but 130 00:05:40,079 --> 00:05:41,399 enough people stay for them. 131 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: In the end credit for VEM two, you t Spider 132 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:45,360 Man right. 133 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,519 Speaker 1: He's on the screen, he looks the TV and then 134 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,560 he's in no way home Venom and like Tom Marty 135 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,160 is in no way home, but then he gets sucked 136 00:05:52,199 --> 00:05:54,360 right out. So like, I wonder if that's where the 137 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:58,000 audience maybe fell off for caring about the Venom movie. 138 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:00,199 Not completely, but a lot of them being like, oh, okay, 139 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,720 is gonna cross over almost like okay, you do Venom one, 140 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,199 that's fine, we'll meet him and people know Venom the 141 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,399 character nothing like them, and then Venom two is like, okay, 142 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:12,560 there's carnage. But maybe that's even that's like even the 143 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,079 quality of the movies. Maybe they were just kind of 144 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,319 like okay, it's like me with you know, Harry Potter 145 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:20,399 movies where I bowed out as a kid after three 146 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:22,240 because I was like, oh, we're never going to Baltimore. 147 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,199 Speaker 2: They keep talking about Baltimore. 148 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:24,879 Speaker 1: This guy never shows up and then hey pop up 149 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:26,759 before But I wonder if that's way a Venom. It's 150 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,079 like okay, and then he gets stuck through a portal 151 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:30,839 and then there's no him and Spider Man in this movie, 152 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:32,800 and it's almost like, hey, what are we what are 153 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,399 we doing here? We're like those other movies Madam Web 154 00:06:35,439 --> 00:06:39,199 Morbius and I'm gonna assume Craven don't really have. Of 155 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,079 course they have a direct tied to Spider Man, but 156 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,319 not in the sense of like they're not liking at 157 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:45,000 TV with Spider Man on it, right, Like that was 158 00:06:45,079 --> 00:06:48,040 that was a direct. Hey, something's happening with these characters. 159 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:48,839 Next here we go. 160 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: I was happy it didn't happen, But that's the thing 161 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:51,519 you say. 162 00:06:51,519 --> 00:06:54,199 Speaker 1: Okay, if they partner with Figgy and that Speram and 163 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,800 or I feel like they'd have to reboot or they'd 164 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,839 have to do stuff like. 165 00:06:59,279 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 166 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: I guess they sent Michael Kean over to their universe, 167 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,519 but I just feel like you can't. You never have 168 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,920 to reboot, or you'd have to have I guess, make 169 00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:10,879 mcu Sony movies. So you would have to be like, Okay, 170 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,040 we're gonna make a Michael keat Vulture movie. We're gonna 171 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,959 make a Jake Jalm, a Steiro movie. We're gonna make well. 172 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,079 I guess they already made the NOI Home Villains already 173 00:07:20,079 --> 00:07:21,959 have their movies, but I guess you make those ones. 174 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Like that's the other thing I would love to find 175 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,519 out too. To these, I would assume because they're partnership 176 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,959 movies with this contract that was signed years ago. If 177 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,160 a Spider Man movie made by Sony and Marvel, does 178 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,319 that count as a Sony one of like every five 179 00:07:37,399 --> 00:07:41,360 years or do those not count? And if they count, 180 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:43,279 then they don't have to force these other movies. But 181 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:45,600 if it doesn't count, then I would understand why you're 182 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:47,879 doing Madam Webb and Craven. 183 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: But I feel like it still counts. 184 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't know, because I also don't think, 185 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,480 like I don't think we're in the situation because like 186 00:07:54,519 --> 00:07:56,800 we talk about MCU being rocky, I don't think FIG's 187 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,839 gonna be like okay, Like let's say Sony comes them 188 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,439 and go, okay, this is not working. People are kind 189 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:03,879 of tuning out. We might be we're not losing money yet, 190 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,920 but we're worried. We're gonna what could you do for us? 191 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,199 Does he want to take that on right now? Like 192 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:11,120 with just the MCU, like it's just starting to get 193 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,600 back on its like feet again. 194 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: Of like people say oh a. 195 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:17,199 Speaker 1: Dead Pool read was good. Agatha's good. Hopefully next year's good. Like, 196 00:08:17,399 --> 00:08:18,800 I don't even know if he wants to do that, 197 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,079 you know, so like and they're losing Lord Miller after 198 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,879 the last Spider Verse movie. Those guys run those so 199 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,720 that was their chance to lose that. So it's like, 200 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,800 I don't know, Like I don't think fag he wants 201 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,159 to take it on really unless there's like a big paycheck, 202 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,879 you know, Like, do you think that's something now, because 203 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:39,799 like we already talked about before, he was getting too 204 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,279 shrung up. 205 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: He didn't do a Star Wars movie because he was 206 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,840 focused on MCU. 207 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: So it's like, do you think he'd really want to 208 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,919 be like, Okay, I'm gonna help you out with your 209 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,679 sony first stuff, even if he gets a cut of 210 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,519 money and it's more connect. 211 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: To the MCU. 212 00:08:51,159 --> 00:08:53,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I mean more money at this point, 213 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Like he doesn't look in money. Yeah, what is he? 214 00:08:56,639 --> 00:08:58,559 I think if he's the only thing on the table, 215 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:00,440 is that you got these rich people up in the 216 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:03,759 hierarchy of Disney that want more money on Tom of them, 217 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:06,919 all the money that they can just like just use 218 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,159 his toilet papers. 219 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,759 Speaker 1: Because they get to cut from the Spider Man movies. 220 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:11,840 So you're saying that's a pitch that they say, hey, 221 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:13,360 we want you to do. 222 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: I don't know. 223 00:09:14,799 --> 00:09:16,159 Speaker 1: Like I said, let's say they're gonna make a green 224 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:17,799 gall of a movie, right like like the way they're 225 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,840 doing what it's a new act or new story. But 226 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:23,320 they say, hey, Disney and the mud like they get 227 00:09:23,639 --> 00:09:26,720 a percentage of this now money wise, Yeah, which isn't 228 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:29,639 much right now if you look at Madam Webbin Morvious 229 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:30,840 and everything like that, you know. 230 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,919 Speaker 2: So yeah, I really don't know. 231 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: I I'm excited to see what Craven does, and I 232 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,720 don't know where they go from here because as we've said, 233 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,240 they don't have any more movies announced after Craven. Usually 234 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,799 there is and there's not. They like you said, they 235 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:46,799 announce Spider Man. I think that was on purpose because 236 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:49,159 I think they knew the tracking wasn't going well. Tom 237 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,159 Hall and obviously he was promoting Bureau, which we're gonna 238 00:09:51,159 --> 00:09:53,120 talk about Tom Hall in a second, because there's a 239 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,720 bunch of stuff and Blae we're gonna talk about. But 240 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,679 Mike asked us a question, so in the like, I 241 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,440 don't have a sure the perfect world is Sony comes 242 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,440 their senses and I can't say it comes their census. 243 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,159 Speaker 2: They decide, you know what, we're just gonna give Marvel 244 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,840 back all the spreading and stuff. Here they go, But 245 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:10,759 why would they do that? 246 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: They paid for it, and if they have to make 247 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:16,039 one movie every five years like mar I don't think 248 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:18,480 Marvel and Disney have that money because like even Spider 249 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:21,039 Man alone is like a billion dollar franchise, right, so it's. 250 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: Like what could you give them? 251 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:24,519 Speaker 1: Even Like remember, wasn't Star Wars bought with like four 252 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,960 billion dollars or something like that? 253 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,879 Speaker 3: Yeah it was, it was around under five I'm pretty sure. 254 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:31,279 Speaker 1: Now, Like now, like obviously Star Wars has issues, but 255 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,159 looking at that, like, wasn't that a bad deal for 256 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,240 George lucasfilm? 257 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:37,759 Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, Lucas, Like I know. 258 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: There's other expenses, but just profit alone, Like even last year, 259 00:10:41,399 --> 00:10:44,080 I can't remember they said like, oh, Star Wars was 260 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,919 nowhere near losing money because like just their merch I 261 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,360 can't remember what it was with some obscene stat but 262 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:52,600 it's like Rogue one and the New Trilogy, we're all 263 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:55,799 for almost five billion dollars because it didn't force make 264 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,360 like two billion dollars or something. 265 00:10:57,159 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: Right, I think yeah, I think so. 266 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,159 Speaker 2: So it's like right, they're paid for itself. It's the 267 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:01,480 same thing. 268 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,919 Speaker 1: It's like I don't think there's any thing Disney could 269 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,320 offer them, Like what could they offer Sony? Like Sony 270 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,720 is still making money and doing fine. So it's like 271 00:11:08,759 --> 00:11:11,440 I don't think there's no number and Sony would be done, 272 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:13,320 Like the only way I think the rights revert back 273 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,799 to Marvel if someone were to buy Sony like a 274 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,360 bigger company, and then it would revert back to Marble 275 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,039 because it breaks the dealer or something like that. But 276 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,080 I don't think that's happening. So it's like I think 277 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,759 we're just kind of stuck, like we're just like I 278 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:27,000 think Sony will wait a little bit. I think Spider 279 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Man's gonna come out. They're going to focus on Across 280 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:30,440 Spider or what is the last one? 281 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: It's is it? What's the last one they're doing? 282 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:36,279 Speaker 1: And there's Beyond Across Into It's Beyond, right then the 283 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:36,720 last one? 284 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: I think I think it's yeah, beyond or not a 285 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:41,559 cross part two. I think it's beyond. 286 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,919 Speaker 2: It's not a cross part two, No, it's beyond. 287 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,279 Speaker 1: So like Okay, so maybe they get that out next year, 288 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,600 and then they got Spider Man four out in twenty 289 00:11:49,639 --> 00:11:52,399 twenty six. Those are bigger ones, so maybe they'll sit 290 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,960 a little bit and that I guess if you're asked 291 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,559 me say, hey, they aren't going to they're not going 292 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,600 to sell it Disney because no, duh, they're not going 293 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,960 to I don't know, work with MC a bit more 294 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,000 because fy, he doesn't do that. I guess to me, 295 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,799 the perfect thing would be, let's wait a couple of years, 296 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:13,559 fully reboot it, start anew and get actual like I'm sorry, 297 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,320 not fifty shades of Gray writers and stuff like that, 298 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,799 like go get some actual talent. Now obviously Joker two's 299 00:12:19,799 --> 00:12:22,360 having its like issues right now, but like go get 300 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:24,879 like a Todd Fils, go get not don't get Todd Phillips. 301 00:12:24,879 --> 00:12:26,879 They don't think he's should make a vand movie or 302 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:28,879 some like go get some people, like even what James 303 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:31,360 Gunn is trying to do with the DC, like go 304 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:33,240 get some actually good. You might have to pay them 305 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,159 a little bit more so, of course the budget goes up, 306 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:37,759 but that to me is like the perfect world scenario. 307 00:12:37,799 --> 00:12:39,759 But Mike did ask a fun question and We're gonna 308 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:40,759 answer it right now. 309 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: Let's see. 310 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: He asked, if you guys were tasked by something to 311 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:49,120 create a spierming universe but could not actually use Speriman himself, 312 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:50,120 how'd you go about it? 313 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: What would Phase one look like? 314 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:53,159 Speaker 1: And then I asked him, I said, are you counting 315 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,480 spider people off limits? 316 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:56,879 Speaker 2: I said, Myles gen et cetera. He said, let's say 317 00:12:56,919 --> 00:12:57,279 you can. 318 00:12:57,159 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: Evolve them, but are no way to allow allowed to 319 00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:02,759 direct mentioned Peter Parker Spider Man's existence. 320 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:05,159 Speaker 2: It can be into the Spider verse versions. 321 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,279 Speaker 1: Fresh Start also gonna put Spider Man into the title, 322 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,799 and you can't put Spider Man. So Taylor, I'm gonna 323 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:14,879 give you we gay Todd Felts' sentence three years in 324 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,759 Director's show the good thing that I suppose with the 325 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:18,679 money he has as a production company, I think he 326 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,480 could just go make an indie like right now and 327 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:24,039 find like produce and distribute it with somebody. Fine, so 328 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:25,480 I think you will be. But I bet he's just 329 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,600 gonna go sit in his farm like Thanos. 330 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: But I gave. 331 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Taylor the guidelines up word making like the Phase one 332 00:13:34,279 --> 00:13:36,120 the MCU where it's five films. 333 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,279 Speaker 2: Did you did you complete this task. 334 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have two lists in case you don't like 335 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:42,320 my first one. 336 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so give me give me your first list, and 337 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,360 then I'll give you my list, and then we'll go 338 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:49,000 with your second list. I want to hear both lists. 339 00:13:49,039 --> 00:13:51,600 So what's your first list? And what's the difference between lists? 340 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:53,559 Is this like a wild card pick because it's a 341 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,279 tailor pick. Is there one that makes like more business sense? 342 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:59,360 What is the guidelines to the list? Number one? 343 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,399 Speaker 3: So list number one is a bit bold and maybe repetitive, 344 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:07,120 but I just felt like it's a good it's a 345 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,000 it's it has potential, has potential. I remember my second 346 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,720 list is just devoid of that potential. It's going completely 347 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:14,679 off of being bold. 348 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so completely, So you're give us the So you 349 00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:21,440 say the second one is the non bold one. That's 350 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,440 the more realistic one. 351 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:25,639 Speaker 3: The second one is more bold. 352 00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:27,559 Speaker 2: Oh you said the first one was bold, So that 353 00:14:27,639 --> 00:14:28,279 second the. 354 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,879 Speaker 3: First one, the first one, second one is more bold. 355 00:14:30,919 --> 00:14:33,919 The first one is it has potential. 356 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: Okay, give me give me the first one. Let's see. 357 00:14:40,159 --> 00:14:42,799 Speaker 1: Let's give me your five film arc for the Spidy 358 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,360 rebuted the rebooted Universe from Marvel here. 359 00:14:47,759 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so first we need to do Venom. 360 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:54,039 Speaker 2: We need to again. We're gonna start with Venim again. 361 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna start with Venom again. We're gonna put out 362 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,200 a proper Venom movie though this time. That is the plan. 363 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,799 I think without Spider Man, I think you can do. 364 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:04,960 You can do a really good Venom story that's not 365 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,279 just not what they did. 366 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: You can't do any Brock again. 367 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,919 Speaker 3: No, no, I I think we do Agent. 368 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,799 Speaker 1: Oh remember him Flash Thompson and he goes to war 369 00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:21,559 and then the Samuel gets too and he gets the 370 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,919 guns and everything like that. 371 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: Well, that wouldn't be a bad idea, something very different, 372 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,039 something fun, but still keeping simplicity. 373 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 374 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,919 Speaker 3: But we're gonna start off with the Venom. But we're 375 00:15:31,919 --> 00:15:35,279 gonna do it right. We're not gonna have this overly. Oh, 376 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,559 we're not gonna do what they did to the other movies. Next, 377 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,559 we're gonna be stereo. We're gonna give him his own 378 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:42,799 solo movie, and we're gonna make it dark and gritty. 379 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,399 Guy just kind of feeling like a piece of ship. 380 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,799 You know, he lives at home whatever, and he can't 381 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:50,360 make it as a special effects guy. 382 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:54,639 Speaker 1: And you're gonna you're gonna Todd Phillips this, this is 383 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:57,879 a Todd Phillips joker, but not mystique. 384 00:15:58,759 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: That's right. 385 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: So well, after that, we're gonna do Venom two, and 386 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:05,639 this is where we're gonna incorporate some of the other things, 387 00:16:05,679 --> 00:16:08,159 not Spider Man, but as we're allowed, like the Miles 388 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,279 Morales and some other fun stuff like that, a little 389 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,320 bit building up the universe s bit more, and then 390 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,159 we're gonna do doc oc Now this is too again, 391 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,039 real juicy here, because this is gonna be a full 392 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,240 villain movie. It's gonna be crazy, it's gonna be bloody, 393 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:22,639 it's gonna be great, and that's gonna be less into 394 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,120 the big combination film, the Sinister Six. 395 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so you I was thinking the same thing because 396 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:34,480 they've been they with Andrew. So I guess I'll say 397 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,120 that I do have a Sinister six, and then I'm 398 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:38,000 gonna Tarantino. I'm gonna tell you about that, and then 399 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:39,759 go back to the beginn Mills. So that is number 400 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:43,120 five because during Andrew they want to do Sinister six. Right, 401 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:45,639 They've talked about it before, like when there was a 402 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,440 period of no Andrew and then no Venom. There's rumors 403 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,480 of Sinister six. There's been rumors again recently they want 404 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:54,399 to do that. Even in Venom three, the term project 405 00:16:54,519 --> 00:16:57,879 six is dropped, so they won't. They so many things. 406 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:01,919 They got something in their bag here and the Sinator 407 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:06,319 six of Vulture with Keaton Venam Morbius man like, that's 408 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:09,359 not it. You do have to start a new mine 409 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,279 is a bit of a cheat though, because I feel 410 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:14,759 like what Sony would do is it would be Sinator six, 411 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:17,319 but being sinator to six, like with a Spider person 412 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:19,279 or a hero or something. I don't think they can 413 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:21,559 get it off the ground of just the villains unless 414 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:23,000 they do a great job. And even then we know 415 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,720 if they're making a Sentat six six movie, they're gonna 416 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:28,119 be like good guys. So I do have that as well. 417 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,920 But how we get there is so we're gonna start. 418 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,319 I'm going a little bit different. No Venom, he said, 419 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:36,279 no Spider people, so or no Spider Man, no Peter Parker. 420 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,519 So well, actually technically to sit what he said is 421 00:17:40,839 --> 00:17:45,640 because I'm gonna cheat a little bit, allowed to directly 422 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:48,559 mentioned Peter Parker's Spider Man existence. 423 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start off with Spider Gwen. So I'm 424 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,200 gonna do that. She's gonna be the lead. 425 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do Miles because I feel like Miles 426 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,480 would be He's gonna go the MC. I feel like, 427 00:17:58,519 --> 00:18:02,400 whether it's Toby, whether it's Tom Holland, they do their 428 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,880 thing right, you need a lead. Let's get Spider Gwen. 429 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,400 She's more popular than she's ever been with those movies, 430 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,279 the animated shows, Colm Books, et cetera. 431 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,799 Speaker 2: Right, and especially think about like her world. 432 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,279 Speaker 1: What I'm going for is very big visual style like 433 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:18,319 and like very well shot movies. Like also good director too, 434 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,640 but something different you think about, like the way her 435 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,640 world looks in across something like that where you get 436 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,519 a very visual talented filmmaker too, Like I want Spider 437 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:30,799 Gwen movie to look like John Wick four, Like remember 438 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:32,680 some of the visuals in that movie, those battle scenes. 439 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,440 Like that's what I'm thinking. You get her, and I'm saying, 440 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,720 you make Norman the bad guy. I think that, Like 441 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:41,279 I think there would be a second bad guy because 442 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:44,160 my pitch is he's not Goblin yet, so it's like Norman, 443 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,799 and like it'd be some villain you could throw away 444 00:18:46,839 --> 00:18:49,200 and kill right away. Very easily like something that's not 445 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,079 a part of my sinisor six. But you got Norman, 446 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,839 because here's my goal. Norman's gonna be who the Sinator 447 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,359 six fights, all right, So there you go. Number two, 448 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,799 it's gonna be a lizard movie. Now here's my twist here, 449 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,480 Mike said, a movie that does not directly mentioned Peter 450 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,640 Parker's Spider Man existence. In Gwen's universe, Peter Parker has 451 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,000 not become Spider Man. He becomes lizard. So I would say, 452 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,400 you do like a body horror type of movie, But 453 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,920 then you also you could also yea, you know what, 454 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:20,160 I'm gonna take that like I can No, I guess 455 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,440 you need multiple movies, right, I guess what you could 456 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,039 do because I was trying to think, like, could that 457 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,839 be a good villain for Spider Gwen too? But I'm 458 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,359 just gonna leave it with Peter Parker. That's the pitch 459 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,599 he turns in the Lizard body horror movie. He gets 460 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,960 some Spider Gwen in there. Maybe oh you know what, Yeah, 461 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,720 he's not dead. I'm gonna put him in the Sinister six. 462 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,960 That's fine. So the Lizard's gonna be in the Senator six. 463 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:40,400 So you got that I'm going the Iron Man route. 464 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,680 Were in phase one. If you'll remember, we got two 465 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,599 Ironman movies. You get Spider Gwen, she's fighting venom, you 466 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,160 get the Venom symbiote. However you do there, great Venom 467 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,039 is gonna be in that another one. Someone keeps trying 468 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:52,359 to make that. I do think you can make a 469 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,160 good movie about Black Cat. Get Black Cat in there. 470 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,200 I think that'll do well. I think you get a 471 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,480 good actress. That's your low budget one, that's your one. 472 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:02,400 You play it safe, make it like a Deadpool one, 473 00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:07,480 like forty to sixty million again John Wicks style, great 474 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:11,160 action revenge thriller's something like that, and then you tie 475 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,640 the end credit is like Spider Gwen talking or something 476 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,640 number four here or do I have well? 477 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: Do I go over? 478 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:17,519 Speaker 3: One? 479 00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:18,839 Speaker 2: Two, three, four five? 480 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,799 Speaker 1: I did go over? So that's my bad. So I'm 481 00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:22,880 gonna throw Black Cat and Spider Gwen two movie. But 482 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,119 either way, if they need next one, there you go. 483 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:27,960 I'm gonna go do one that looks like it's inn 484 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,359 else worlds, but then it ties in. I'm gonna say, 485 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,519 you make a Spider Man twenty ninety nine movie, because 486 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,960 I think imagine again, when I think do a Blade 487 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:39,119 Runner type of Spider Man movie with the visuals, different 488 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,359 style that puts it apart from the MCU stuff that 489 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,799 puts about from Spider Gwen. DC hasn't done Batman Beyond, 490 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,920 so it's like why does it Marvel beat them to 491 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,920 that where it's like, let's do a cyberpunk superhero movie. 492 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,799 But the end credit is him going into Spider Gwen's world, 493 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:54,440 and that's when we get sinasor six And I. 494 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,319 Speaker 2: Guess my Sinator six is like Lizard, Black. 495 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: Cat, Venom, and then I need three more. I guess 496 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:05,599 I don't know, like the Spider Spider Gwyn or Miguel 497 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,039 would be in there. 498 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:07,039 Speaker 2: I think Spider Gown would be in there. 499 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: So we had treats that maybe Spider Man two or 500 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,880 Spider Gwent two ends with like she's like a villain, 501 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Like I mean like she's like a like a framed villain, 502 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:17,799 you know, like they look like they're they're all misunderstood. 503 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:18,279 Speaker 2: So there you go. 504 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:20,799 Speaker 1: You get your four and then it'll be like Avengers, 505 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:23,519 where there will be a Hawkeye Black Widow. Like who 506 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:25,640 should I have in my Sinister six. I'm trying to 507 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,400 think who else is in there and they're fine. 508 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: Norman, I don't know. 509 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,279 Speaker 1: I'll put doc Off in there, and I'll put I'll 510 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:37,839 put Ryano, give Rhino some love, some actual so get the. 511 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,519 Speaker 2: Full on suit though, you know. So that's what I'm saying. 512 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Did you have a particular roster with your sinator six 513 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,440 or TVD. 514 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: Ah, I'm gonna say TVD. I definitely do not have 515 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:48,720 a roster. 516 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: Okay, what is your more bold uh slate? 517 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: So for this one, we're starting black Cat is the 518 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:59,440 starting solo film, uh to kind of lead us into 519 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,720 this this whole new era. 520 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah. 521 00:22:01,759 --> 00:22:04,599 Speaker 3: Number two Mysterio, same old dark, gritty talk. 522 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: You really want that week the Magician movie A I do. 523 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:09,799 Speaker 3: I really do. 524 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: Special thanks guy down with a lot. You can make 525 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,880 it like a Maxine movie where he's in Hollywood and 526 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,640 stuff's going on right, so good? 527 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 528 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: I get Ty West, Yeah I can. I can see it. Yeah. 529 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: Number three though, we're gonna do doc ok so not 530 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,319 number four. We're doing doc oc is number three. Then 531 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,039 we're gonna do Green Goblin is number four. So I'm 532 00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:30,920 thinking we're gonna have these three characters at the start 533 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,000 kind of like form a team and team up, and 534 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:35,759 then Green Goblin's gonna come in as being this big 535 00:22:35,799 --> 00:22:39,559 fucking battie and it's gonna be causing shit, being ruthless, 536 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:42,559 and so then that's when they're going to fight him. 537 00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:44,839 And then their next movie we get The Sinister Six 538 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,400 where they all form actually a team. They end up 539 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,720 like beating him, but swaying over like hey, join us, 540 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,000 and then from then on like they just they own 541 00:22:54,079 --> 00:22:55,960 the city. Who knows what happened next. 542 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: That's only four movies, I think, wasn't. 543 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: It Black Cat, Mysterio, Doc, Green Goblin, Sinistor six? 544 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,759 Speaker 2: Oh, Green Gobins get his own movie. 545 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: He gets his own movie. Yeah, so's he's the enemy 546 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:09,400 in his movie, Like he gets his own movie. And 547 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,359 then at the end it alludes to him like kind 548 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,440 of like connecting with the others, and Sinistor six is 549 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,839 like them fighting but then him like joining them at 550 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:17,160 the end. 551 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: Well again, if you wanted, like there is a way, 552 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,079 if you could keep it in like in frame is, 553 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,559 you could do a Green Goblin movie like a Doctor 554 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,400 Jackal Mister Hide sort of thing, you know, like the 555 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,480 two minds like him fighting each other, or like a 556 00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:37,519 Wolfmen scenario like him fighting the Green goble and not 557 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,680 to come out. You could do something there and then 558 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,119 it comes out. But you know so, but I like 559 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,519 I like the storm and Norman pick I supposed to 560 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,559 sound like a classic Sony thing for a Villa LA. 561 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: You need one normal person with a gun and tactical 562 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:52,279 gear in the team. 563 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would put because I had black Cat, so 564 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:59,079 i'd have. I think that kind of counts. I guess 565 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:01,640 you're right, it's not tact right now. Everyone says silver Sable, 566 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:07,200 that's one. I'm trying to think, who's another tactical maybe 567 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,599 like a silver Main or a tombstone or something like that. 568 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:13,759 Those are some of the people that have so yeah, alright, 569 00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:15,519 let's take our next ad break and we'll be right 570 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:16,720 back with some more mores. 571 00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: We'll be right back