WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.760 Hello, and welcome everybody to episode one forty nine of 2 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.199 Cards and Categories. I am Mike Coolard from Baseball Prospectus, 3 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:26.679 joined per usual by my very good friend Jeremy Brewer 4 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:30.039 from Rasball. How you doing tonight, buddy? How many times 5 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:33.159 have you watched that Detroit Tigers chasing the black squirrel 6 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:34.039 video at this point? 7 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:38.880 Probably not enough, but that's just because you know, the 8 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:43.280 Skip Schumacher cannot be outdone by this in chasing squirrels, 9 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:46.719 so I didn't want to get a little jealous of 10 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:51.240 that one. But lots of fun, and that's probably pretty 11 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:54.280 much the only entertaining thing about the Tigers recently until 12 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.079 the trade deadline here and we see true Schooble find 13 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.200 a potentially new home. But besides that, you know things 14 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:02.679 are going great. Ready to get in some fun news 15 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.280 and notes. I don't think we have everybody injured tonight, 16 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.719 and got a few few trades and things like that, 17 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.000 so we are just getting into the thick of trade deadline, 18 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:14.799 so I'm excited there's actually some movements talk about. 19 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:18.400 Yes exactly, we will have certainly tons of it to 20 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.840 talk about next week, that's for sure. Usually I've looked 21 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.280 back Historically, our trade headline pods are like pushing to 22 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.560 two and a half hours just because of the volume 23 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.719 of moves that happen. And you know what, people are saying, 24 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:34.280 it might end up being a muted trade deadline here 25 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:36.599 in twenty twenty six. I think we've also said that 26 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:38.920 the past couple of years, as we've been earning the 27 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:43.400 underneath this new playoff format system with that third wild card, 28 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:47.560 and I think it always surprises us because it is 29 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:51.480 always on a razor's edge, it feels in terms of 30 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.439 teams being in or out and how quickly it can happen. 31 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.200 I mean, just look at how rapidly the Marlins the 32 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:00.840 Cardinals have fallen out. I actually think Tigers are probably 33 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:03.000 going to be keeping schooble and going for it only 34 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:05.879 a handful of games out in the Al Central. So 35 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:08.520 I think it's gonna be a fun deadline. I'm looking 36 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.520 forward to it. We're gonna have a very very long 37 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:13.759 pod next week probably to cover it. Also, make sure 38 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:18.319 you practice do those vocal warm ups accordingly. Before we 39 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.439 get into our normal show, though, let's preview what we're 40 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:23.919 gonna do for our main segment here today. If you're 41 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:26.360 looking at the name of the pod. You're probably like, 42 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:30.080 what on Earth prospect face off? What is this reference 43 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:34.120 back to this ninety movie with John Travolta and Nick Cage. Well, one, 44 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:37.360 I just finished Spider and Water on Prime Video, great 45 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.000 series with Nick Cage. So that's maybe why I'm feeling 46 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.960 it a little bit. But I've also noticed the past 47 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:44.879 few years, I think it's really stood out that there's 48 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:49.240 lots of organizations that are really drafting the same type 49 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:51.960 of profile or acquiring the same type of profile and 50 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.000 stocking their minor league systems with it. We've run into 51 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:58.240 this a little bit with the Giants and the Luis Hernandez, 52 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:01.919 Johnny Lovell, Joe suargen Zals talk that we had a 53 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:03.840 few weeks ago. It also came up a little bit 54 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.120 when we were talking about Nathan Fluelling and putting him 55 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:10.120 into our PC, where I called that like Nathan Fwelling 56 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:13.639 versus Taitan Gray's a pretty interesting discussion now for the Rays, 57 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:17.520 and so we've got a handful of names, a handful 58 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.879 of teams where we've got prospect debates. I'll offer them 59 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:22.479 up to you and then we'll discuss from there. See 60 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.360 what our preferences are. But before we do that, let's 61 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.360 get into those news and notes that you alluded to. 62 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:30.120 We've got one trade to cover, but it is maybe 63 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:33.639 if we hadn't discussed this on Sunday when it happened 64 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:35.879 over the weekend, it would have been a different story. 65 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.840 We had the Red Sox and Nationals linking up for 66 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:43.759 a trade, sending Connolly early the Southpaw to the Nationals 67 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:48.240 in exchange for Curtits Mead infielder you know, first basement, 68 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:53.599 second basement, third baseman, future DH and future il stint 69 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.479 person for the rest of play twenty six. Maybe because 70 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.120 the first game with the Red Sox, Mead came out 71 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:03.400 and shattered his wrist, So that's not great allowing them 72 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.439 to bring back Nick Soguard. I mean, if this is 73 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:10.120 the end of the season for Curtis Mead, is quite 74 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.159 the little run that he's put together in his age 75 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.159 twenty five season two fifty three, three fifty three, four 76 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.759 ninety eight slash line a one thirty three WRC plus 77 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.120 with seventeen homers and six dolen bases can almost double 78 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:24.319 that up. It would have been like thirty homers. Tense 79 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:26.879 deals over an entire year with like a two fifty average, 80 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:30.839 very very useful. And then on the flip side, Condonly 81 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:34.600 Early is still dealing with an elbow injury while he 82 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.439 joins the Nats, probably a little bit of why he 83 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.319 was traded, because you never like to hear anything about 84 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:45.360 elbow injuries in young arms like Connolly Early. But it's 85 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:48.360 apparently only inflammation and should be back at some point 86 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:51.720 later this season for the Nats. So what's your take here? 87 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:53.360 I mean, obviously it's a little bit more of a 88 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:55.120 long term view. I think it would have been a 89 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:58.600 little bit more glowing in terms of mead joining the 90 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.160 Red Sox and getting to a hacked the Green monster there. 91 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.720 But going forward, what do you like about these landing 92 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.560 spots or dislike about these landing spots for Meat and Early? 93 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:11.160 Yeah, I mean I actually think it's a pretty good 94 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:13.519 landing spot for both of them, you know, I think 95 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.040 it is it tells you where where their values are. 96 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:19.800 I think ultimately Early is. I think Early a really 97 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.600 really intriguing pitcher. He's definitely been kind of figuring things 98 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:25.439 out this year. He looked dominant last year when he 99 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.160 came up for a cup of coffee, But I think 100 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.279 he ultimately kind of settles into maybe like a type 101 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.199 number three, number four type type type role. But he's 102 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.759 going to be I say, in a lower pressure environment, 103 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.160 probably a better division, to be pitching in, better ballpark 104 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.040 in my opinion, to be to be pitching in, and 105 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:47.079 uh surprisingly a decent enough team. That's not kind of 106 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.600 the things that we've we've worried about with the Nationals 107 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:53.160 before the wind total. So I think it's it's relatively even, 108 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.720 if not better for early because he was having trouble. 109 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:58.720 You know, there was questions about was he going to 110 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.199 be a full time that rotation and once you had 111 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.959 everybody healthy next year, like they were gonna have a 112 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.040 tight rotation. Once Crochet is getting back, you know, there's 113 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:11.600 just a lot going there. Meat. On the other hand, 114 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:14.480 he I say, he's come out of nowhere this year, 115 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.160 But he's come out of nowhere this year after a 116 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.720 few middling years trying to figure things out. He was 117 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.920 a strong prospect. So it gives me a lot more credence. 118 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:24.480 And under the covers things look pretty gosh darn good. 119 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.000 So I think it's a kind of a win win trade. 120 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:29.879 It's rare that you see the one for one trade 121 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:31.920 and both teams kind of come out in a better spot. 122 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:32.959 Both players come out. 123 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:33.399 On a better spot. 124 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:35.439 And I think that's what this one was. Am I 125 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.600 like incredibly high en curased speed. Next year probably not, 126 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:42.720 but give me, give me mead As kind of a 127 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.680 corner infield, a decent corner infield, and I'm happy with that. 128 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.360 And he might become more like maybe he's playing a 129 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.399 little this Miguel Vargas kind of kind of roll post 130 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:55.600 type prospect, and there's a lot lot worse things could 131 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:57.920 happen here with the guy that's really approved his plate 132 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.920 approach and just overall, you know, play profile. So I 133 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:04.959 like it for both teams, like for both players. 134 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.959 Yeah, I think I'm there with you too, And yeah, 135 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:09.839 I'm right there with you on Mead. In terms of 136 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:13.199 it being maybe like a possible Vargas or Munsi situation, 137 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.480 I think in real life it's a little bit more 138 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.000 of a muted trade just because Meat is an actual 139 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:20.759 just like a straight up butcher with the glove like 140 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.759 he is not great in the field and has no arm, 141 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:26.439 and so it'll be interesting to see where they find 142 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.240 a home for him in Boston, considering the corners are 143 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:34.759 already pretty clogged up, and so is DH and yeah, 144 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:37.399 everything in the in the profile just screams like this 145 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:40.920 dude finally figured it out. And he made tweaks as well, 146 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:43.120 like in the box and at the plate. And what's 147 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:45.959 also encouraging about that too, is he showed that adjustment. 148 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.879 So just kind of like Miguel Vargas or it's a 149 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.319 little bit like next monthsy Ish too in terms of 150 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:54.600 the profile, but from the right side where you got 151 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.199 a lot of good traits that have kind of come 152 00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:59.560 together for meat and I think there's a good chance 153 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:03.000 you can keep going all right. Well, time for another 154 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.879 first rounder injury to discuss, because this one's actually the 155 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:10.199 second one for Juan Soto, the New York Mets outfielder, 156 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:14.680 went down with a stringed calf. And if that sounds familiar, 157 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:17.000 he did it earlier this season. That's what kept him out. 158 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:18.879 It's the other calf now, so it is the right 159 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:20.759 calf at the beginning of the year, it's the left 160 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:23.439 half now. The first one was about I think it 161 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:25.959 was just a shade over three weeks he was out. 162 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.480 This one it's a little bit more serious of a 163 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:30.319 string So it sounds like it's gonna be four to 164 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.360 six weeks. Now. This is a situation where actually I 165 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.759 do believe that Sodo is going to work his way 166 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:40.159 back because there's an element to this where you know 167 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:42.399 Mike trut has done this over the years too, where 168 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:45.440 once you know you're an all time great and you've 169 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.159 pretty much just got a player way into the Hall 170 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:51.480 of Fame, you're looking to accumulate stats. And so even 171 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.600 if the Mets are out of it, I think Sodo's 172 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.600 got that fire underneath him to really push the numbers 173 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:58.840 up and make that Hall of Fame resume even better 174 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:02.000 than it already is. Right now, it's a two eighty three, 175 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:05.200 four oh eight, five thirty nine slash time one fifty 176 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:08.360 eight wic plus with twenty one homers, seven stolen bases 177 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.320 in eighty four games. Again, it's a situation you double 178 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.879 that you're looking at forty to fifteen. This is exactly 179 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.799 who Wan Soto is, right and so probably an easy 180 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:21.200 first round pick because you can just about pencil in 181 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.480 this line for next year. Is that what you're doing, Yeah, 182 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:25.519 that's where I'm what I'm doing. 183 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:27.360 I was trying to look to see where I had 184 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.840 them my top one, my top ten for next year. 185 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.639 I think I had them like number five. From a 186 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:36.600 hitter perspective, there's there's enough speed there to be dangerous, 187 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:40.200 but overall it's just the floor for a healthy Soto 188 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:43.759 is just unbelievable. Like you look back the last three years, 189 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:47.720 this guy's averaging basically forty homers, one hundred and ten runs, 190 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.679 one hundred and five RBIs and call it twenty steals. Now, 191 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:55.080 let's be fair, it's like twelve seals, seven steals, thirty 192 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:56.879 eight steals, like I think there's an outler in there, 193 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:02.799 but you know, also able to hit basically to seventy five. 194 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:06.840 Like that's just an absolute slam dunk first rounder. Really 195 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.159 never has had health issues until a little bit creeped 196 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:12.960 up this year, but I'm willing to chalk that up. 197 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.679 So if anything, he actually got better this year. He's 198 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:20.000 strikeout rate was down to thirteen percent, which is kind 199 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.080 of where he was, you know, in his heyday with Washington, 200 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:27.559 even a little bit better than that. So yeah, plug 201 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:29.799 and play. So it was an early first rounder next year, 202 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:31.759 no questions about it. I do agree with you, he's 203 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:34.759 gonna probably get back later this year. You know, he 204 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:36.759 could also take a little easy on the base paths 205 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:39.720 as well. The rest of the year. I would be 206 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:41.960 too concerned with that. Maybe there's a discount next year 207 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.960 just because of a little injury concern, but discounts like 208 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.120 one spot in the first round maybe not much there. 209 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.879 Yeah, well, I mean given the volume of injuries we 210 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.440 had We've had to first rounders this year that I mean, 211 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.039 everybody's getting dinged a little bit, So I think, yes, true, 212 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.799 it's very true. I mean you have Otani with the knee, 213 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.559 you have Judge with the rib, you have Bobby Wit 214 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:09.279 with the back room mirrors, with the hammate soda with 215 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:15.200 the cavs Acuna with legs. So you're going to run 216 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:18.159 into I think a lot of injury questions where I 217 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:19.639 don't know if there's going to be that big of 218 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:24.039 a discount unless there is any push within the fantasy 219 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.720 kind of realm at large trying to move Pca and 220 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.200 James Wood and Junior Camanaro further up. But like I think, 221 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.480 when you look at the plate skills, it's really tough 222 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.519 to overlook that kind of five pack that we just 223 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:42.000 talked about from this year's first rounders, that they walk, 224 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:46.039 they don't strike out, a ton, they make great impact, 225 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.840 they give you all categories, and so it's really tough 226 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.799 to overlook that. And I think they'll probably still be 227 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:53.879 around the top of the first round next year. 228 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:55.200 Two yep, I agree. 229 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:58.440 Okay, let's get to a minor league injury, which we 230 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.559 don't usually cover, but when it it haunts the number 231 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.440 one overall pitching prospect in all of the game, I 232 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:06.120 think we've got to talk about it. So we're talking 233 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.519 Seth Hernandez from the Pirates going down with an oblique 234 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.320 strain on his left side. So certainly this ends any 235 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:15.799 chance that he was maybe going to make a debut 236 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.200 for the Pirates late in the season as a part 237 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.360 of the playoff run. I think that could have been 238 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.000 a possibility, but this oblique strain looks like it's probably 239 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.279 gonna keep him out six to eight weeks. Honestly, I 240 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:29.399 think he's probably done for the season because you don't 241 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:31.360 mess around with a guy like this and try to 242 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.240 rush him back from an oblique injury like this. Look 243 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:36.759 at what like the Marlins are doing with Thomas White 244 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.480 in that shoulder. It's you know, different because it's a shoulder, 245 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.679 but you're still talking a pretty major part of the 246 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:46.240 torso and oblique strains like this can really derail things fast, 247 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:49.879 I think for prospect pitchers, because not only if you 248 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.799 return from it, are you risking reinjury, but you're also 249 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:58.279 risking just mechanical change and wonkiness that can result from pain. 250 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:00.759 And so the Pirates are probably going to play this 251 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.559 one pretty slow. I would think seventy four innings of 252 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.240 two forty three ERA with a three fifty five fip, A, 253 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.679 forty point four percent strikeout rate, twenty nine point eight 254 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.919 percent K minus b B if it is the end 255 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.720 of the season for Seth Hernandez, did that across low 256 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.960 A and high A? So Brew is is this giving 257 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.799 you any pause in terms of I know you've been real, 258 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:28.120 real into Seth Hernandez yep and really have been trying 259 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.399 to invest in him where you can. Does this oblique 260 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.879 injury give you any just doubts about what he can 261 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:36.720 do going into the future. 262 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:40.120 Yeah, I don't. It's not really changing anything for me. 263 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.480 The only thing it changes is maybe the timetable a little, 264 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:45.399 because I really do believe what you said about the 265 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.360 Pirates and a playoff run was actually in the cards. 266 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.519 Like if you looked at his innings pitched for the 267 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:54.879 last like four or five starts, they were they were 268 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:58.799 tailoring him down. They were really trying to protect that arm. 269 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.360 And I I think we were really close to a 270 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.000 Double A promotion where he was gonna have about a 271 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:06.799 month at Double A and then if they were close, 272 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:09.399 he was coming into the bullpen arm to the major 273 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.879 league level. I really think that's the path we were down, 274 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.360 and that's why they were fine, like not I say, 275 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:18.240 de stretching him, kind of shortening those those outings to 276 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.720 protect the arm because he was going five or six 277 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:23.600 innings earlier in the year, no problem, no questions asked. 278 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:27.919 And you know the last few starts three and two 279 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.600 thirds three innings, two innings, three innings like that, they 280 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.559 were absolutely slowing him down. And it's not like he 281 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.960 wasn't successful. I think in the last three starts he 282 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:38.879 gave up one earned run. Now the fourth one there 283 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:40.679 he have a five, which is like his worst start 284 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:44.600 of the entire year. But this guy is no question, 285 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.120 best pitching prospect in the miners in my opinion. And 286 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:52.360 now I think instead of questioning whether he's gonna break 287 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.360 camp next year with with the Pirates, I think This 288 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.000 is kind of pushing him back towards that like May 289 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:03.159 June debut next season, which in the grand scheme things 290 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:04.519 is probably not a bad thing because they he can 291 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:06.600 get a little wrestle, he'll do on six and seven 292 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:10.039 day rests and short outings, start spring training late like that. 293 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:12.600 You can see the pattern that's gonna happen here. So 294 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.559 still love South Fernando's going forward. This is puts a 295 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:17.720 damper on at least a lot of my prospects of 296 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.000 really hoping that he made the debut late in the season, 297 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:23.320 kind of like a Jacob Mizerowski type thing and really 298 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.440 make make an impact to the team and create keeper 299 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.320 discussions all over the fantasy outlook and things like that. 300 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.039 But he's done for the season in my opinion. 301 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.039 Yeah, yeah, I think I agree too. All Right, Well, 302 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.240 let's talk catchers because we had quite the rash of 303 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:42.679 catcher injuries over the past week where I think anybody 304 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:45.759 in any league was probably scrambling, especially if you've got 305 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.480 multiple leagues and you had to hit one of these 306 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:50.960 land mines in terms of the injuries that hit the 307 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.960 catcher field. So let's start with the worst first, Shy 308 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:57.600 leng Lear's going down with that torn meniscus, had surgery, 309 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:00.120 is out for the rest of the season. Honestly, we're 310 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.879 you drafted, shay Linglears. You already got your money back, 311 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.639 So everything from here on out is just straight gravy 312 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.919 on top two sixty three average, three thirty two OBP 313 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:12.399 four ninety seven slugs. So it's a little bit lower 314 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:14.159 than it was last year, but I still pop twenty 315 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:18.559 three homers gave you mid fifties runs in RBI in 316 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:23.279 four hundred and sixteen plate appearances. You've also got the 317 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:26.120 loss of Samuel Bissio this past week hit the il 318 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:28.679 with a right shoulder string that he's been battling. Now 319 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:30.759 it has been a bit more of like a muted 320 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:35.000 season four by SiO, but he's also I think he's 321 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:37.799 a streaky dude. We're still probably getting a beat on 322 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:40.679 him in total, but does seem like he would go 323 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:44.480 through bouts of getting red hot and then cool back off. Honestly, 324 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:46.399 part of it is probably a little bit because of 325 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.600 his shoulder, because I think it had been nagging him 326 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.080 for a little bit. Two forty one, three h five, 327 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.279 four fifty slash line for him, but sixteen homers, so 328 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.799 far this he'son only twenty one. That's crazy. He still 329 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:00.840 looking at or maybe you were affected by Kyle Teal 330 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:02.840 going down. Looks like he's got a high ankle sprain. 331 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:06.480 They're talking like eight to twelve weeks. So probably the 332 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:09.880 restless season here on Kyle Teal gonna be a great 333 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.599 buying opportunity, I think because the injuries that he's dealt with, 334 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:17.359 I don't know if they're really gonna affect his long 335 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:20.119 term outlook, but certainly when he gets back and going 336 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:21.680 for the White Sox next year, is going to be 337 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:27.039 a great bat overall from the catching position. Obviously, with 338 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.440 all three of these you can kind of taper it 339 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:31.480 based on the information. I think you're not cutting the 340 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:35.759 SiO unless you're really running out of Iyel spots Wherever 341 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.519 you had him and you were using him. He's going 342 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.640 to be useful when he comes back. Laying the leers 343 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.200 you can, you can probably cut if it's a redraft league. 344 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:46.480 Same with Teal. My question here is what are you 345 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.039 doing to make up for this? Because I mean, if 346 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.640 you're searching that wire for any catchers, it's getting pretty sparse. 347 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:54.960 I will say all throughout, my favorite name that's cropped 348 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:57.880 up because of this, it's Jonaheim. Jonaheim's already been hitting 349 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.440 cover off the ball in Sacramento, and it's in Sacramento, 350 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:04.160 and was getting dh in first space time, gonna get 351 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.000 even more playing time of che Langleiers down. So I 352 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:10.720 think he's probably my number one target for a Cutcher 353 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:13.759 replacement out there. But anybody else that you might be 354 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:14.640 looking at, and. 355 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.039 Yeah, for me, it's Jonahim as well. Like I was, 356 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:20.119 I was looking at all three teams here, like who's 357 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.160 who's the kind of guys that are next in the line, 358 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.960 And like chub Wick Trump is not truly too enticing 359 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.640 here or any anybody that on. Basically, the Chicago White 360 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.319 sucks from a Drew Romo perspective or a Guraquero's perspective, 361 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:36.799 but Himes looks good. He's strong. I mean, he's never 362 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:38.839 gonna hit for average, but he's gonna give you some 363 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:44.519 strong power numbers. I actually was sneakily looking at Augustin 364 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:46.680 Ramiroz to see like he's been like killing it in 365 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:49.960 the minors. He's dealing basically crazy. But then I looked 366 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.400 at his defensive stats and they're like worse than they 367 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:54.440 were in the majors and so like that guy's not 368 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:58.640 getting called up anytime soon for the Marlin, So I 369 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:01.160 think it's pretty thin. I think that's why where we're 370 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.000 going is Jonah him. He should be available pretty much everywhere, 371 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:05.880 and now he should be pretty much playing full time. 372 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:09.319 So I think it's a pretty easy plug and play, 373 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:13.359 especially for a team playing a pretty nice ballpark. 374 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:16.759 Yeah, and I mean I think in Miami it might 375 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:19.799 be another great catcher to pursue if he's not scooped 376 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:22.200 up already. Joe mack has really settled in. I mean, 377 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:24.799 nothing special. It's like a two thirty two forty bat 378 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.839 with what would paste to like twenty five homers in 379 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:31.039 a season. But I mean, beggars can't be choosers this 380 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:33.839 late when it comes to catchers in the waiver wire. 381 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:38.319 So yeah, Mackheim, pursue them if they're available for you. Okay, 382 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.200 let's talk a guy who I can't believe it's this 383 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.480 far up the list in terms of the injuries and 384 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:47.400 importance that has gone down. And this one hurt because 385 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:49.200 I had him in quite a few places and he's 386 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:53.759 been performing everywhere I had him. Let's talk Casey Schmidt 387 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:57.160 of the San Francisco Giants, because we haven't really much 388 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:59.920 this season. He just cracked your top one hundred this 389 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.720 past weekend. Top. Yeah, you finally got him up there. 390 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:08.000 I mean I could and like I could see in 391 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.960 terms of there was a lot of track record behind 392 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:16.160 Schmidt that did not at all indicate what was going 393 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:20.240 to come this season. It is probably a season ender, 394 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:23.079 I would imagine, because it does sound like he's having surgery. 395 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:29.559 They're saying maybe like a six to ish week timeline. 396 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:31.279 I don't know if the Giants will really want to 397 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:35.759 rush it, especially considering this pile of gold, the slump 398 00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:39.640 of gold they've uncovered with Casey Schmidt now where I mean, 399 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:42.559 he could play all over the place, and he's been 400 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:47.680 hitting like an elite bat for the entire season. Four 401 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.559