Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the
Speaker 1: Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. I got
Speaker 1: Tim Duckworth along side me today. We are fresh off
Speaker 1: the Texas Poker Open and my man, my cowboy has
Speaker 1: written back from the Lone Star State, a long trek
Speaker 1: through the desert, I'm sure, but he made it. We
Speaker 1: got Ravi Sonny Sondhara Sunny is his nickname, winning the
Speaker 1: Texas Poker Open main event. We're also going to hit
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Speaker 1: talk about the Keystone State, Pennsylvania, because they joined the
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Speaker 1: for short. Whereas Tim would probably we say, what would
Speaker 1: you say, MESSIGASIGA?
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Speaker 1: PokerGO dot com. All right, the Texas Poker Open Main Event,
Speaker 1: Ravi Sndara aka Sonny Sondara wins it all on two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three thousand, one hundred and forty three dollars.
Speaker 1: That was after a deal was made three handed. Original
Speaker 1: first place prize was three hundred and seventy five K,
Speaker 1: six hundred and ninety nine entries in this one. Couldn't
Speaker 1: get that extra entry to get us a seven hundred, Hugh,
Speaker 1: You couldn't just fire thirty three hundred, Okay, you basically
Speaker 1: cash for thirty three hundred in some event I did.
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's just put it in there.
Speaker 2: Come on, let's let's go to the guy at the top.
Speaker 2: Brent Hanks, sitting on the sideline for the entire main event,
Speaker 2: off to finishing fifth loss.
Speaker 1: YEA six, I thought six?
Speaker 2: What about either way, brenton one entry?
Speaker 1: If you if I have final tabled an event which
Speaker 1: is probably never gonna happen in my lifetime because I
Speaker 1: suck at poker. But anyway, if I did, it would
Speaker 1: take so much for me to not play the Turnam
Speaker 1: the next year exactly. I'm not even talking about winning.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about making the final table. Come on,
Speaker 1: you gotta be in there. You absolutely have to be
Speaker 1: in there, all right. Sonny Sindar won it all two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three and forty three dollars. Caleb Harwell
Speaker 1: finished in second place two hundred and sixty four, five
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine dollars for him, and then the
Speaker 1: other player as part of the three way deal, Aaron
Speaker 1: gow two hundred and forty seven thousand, three hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty eight dollars. Now, it was. It was a very
Speaker 1: interesting finish to the event, something that was unique. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I've ever seen it before, but you had
Speaker 1: this three way deal. Then they continue playing for they
Speaker 1: did an ICM chopping, and then they were playing for
Speaker 1: sixty K and then Aaron Gau goes out in third place.
Speaker 1: Then Sonny and Caleb decide to do a best of
Speaker 1: three series of plo flips. What the heck is happening
Speaker 1: down there?
Speaker 2: Man? It's just what's a mockery, a mockery of the PGT,
Speaker 2: but hey, it's it's very it's very Houston plo flips.
Speaker 2: You know, the gambling, the drinking, the fun, jovial final
Speaker 2: table and atmosphere with some of these players. So look,
Speaker 2: if anywhere's gonna happen, and I'm gonna be slightly okay
Speaker 2: with it, it's down there at Champions Club in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1: Listen, I watched, I haven't. I haven't watched the full
Speaker 1: final table yet because I was doing commentary for Venetian
Speaker 1: while that final table was going on. But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: dying to get back to it. That said, I am
Speaker 1: aware of some of the big hands that played out
Speaker 1: not only on that final day three, but also on
Speaker 1: day two. I mean, holy hell, I'm coming to Texas
Speaker 1: next year. I mean, I don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: people are doing with some of these can this.
Speaker 2: Is Texas playfare?
Speaker 1: Outrageous? It's I mean it's crazy, Like on one half
Speaker 1: you have these people that are like Max gambling right,
Speaker 1: like you had this one what was his was his name, Kim?
Speaker 1: I think it was on day two. I mean he
Speaker 1: played every hand, every hand. I think his name was Kim.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong Ton Kim in every single freaking
Speaker 1: hand imaginable. Even the guy who won, Sonny was all
Speaker 1: over the place, all over the Wow. Yeah. Sonny was
Speaker 1: also drinking from like nine am, like he just showed
Speaker 1: up to champions with a beer in hand and was
Speaker 1: just ready to go the whole time. In his winter photo,
Speaker 1: he's drinking the Blue Moon like the whole time. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure by the way that I played a hand
Speaker 1: against Sonny in the twenty twenty three WPT World Championship.
Speaker 1: Interesting in like level five when he tried to he
Speaker 1: tried to run a crazy bluff against me where I
Speaker 1: raised the button with King Jack. I remember this same
Speaker 1: I raised the button with King Jack. We were both
Speaker 1: pretty deep. The big one was sixteen hundred I think
Speaker 1: I had I don't know, one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 1: k or something like that. He three bets me from
Speaker 1: the small blind. I call it comes King high. He bets.
Speaker 1: I call turns a jacks. I make two pair. He
Speaker 1: bets really big. I call rivers a ten. He rips
Speaker 1: it all in. I took about fifteen segs and was like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you got the ace, queen, you got
Speaker 1: ace queen whatever man. He had ace three off.
Speaker 2: On my way to finishing third out of one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty players in the three hundred dollars. Nother man
Speaker 2: Hodem Turbo actually busted Robbie he put.
Speaker 1: It also also a chop tournament.
Speaker 2: A great chop. He ran a crazy bluff with aces,
Speaker 2: and I had jacks and I hit a jack.
Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing stuff. When he when he was bluffing with
Speaker 1: the best hand, it's just absolutely wild and these guys.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, he was awful, all right.
Speaker 1: So he wins the He won two flips right away, right,
Speaker 1: He won the first two flips and that was it.
Speaker 1: It was over with. So Sonny wins it all, two
Speaker 1: hundred eighty three thousand dollars his he's a he's a
Speaker 1: Houston local. This is his local Room Downer Champions Club.
Speaker 1: So we got a local winning it all. Just rounding
Speaker 1: out the rest of the final table, you ad Jason
Speaker 1: Bulloch in fourth place, Fu Voe in fifth place, Andrew
Speaker 1: Moreno in sixth place, Will Benson seventh, and vietvo in
Speaker 1: eighth And then was it nine hand? Found?
Speaker 2: Was it was nine handed? We just wanted to finish
Speaker 2: that level before the.
Speaker 1: Got it one ninth place was justin Liberto. And then
Speaker 1: i'll just round out the top ten. Michael leang in
Speaker 1: tenth place for forty thousand. Elsewhere on the in the
Speaker 1: money finishes, you had Joey Wiseman, who won the Poker
Speaker 1: gro Cup earlier in the twenty twenty five PGT season.
Speaker 1: He finished in twelfth place. Matthew Wantman finished in thirteenth place.
Speaker 1: Both of them took home thirty three thousand dollars. You
Speaker 1: had Daniel Cpo in fifteenth for twenty seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Then a little bit further down you had Philip Hellmuth
Speaker 1: the third, not the regular Philip Healmuth, his son Philip
Speaker 1: Helmuth the third, sixty first place for seven K. Jeff
Speaker 1: Platt shout out to our guy, sixty fourth for six K,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Becker sixty sixth for six K, David Chen seventy
Speaker 1: first for six K, Ray Kartomi seventy second for fifty
Speaker 1: five hundred. I'll hit on those two a little bit more.
Speaker 1: On a second to Jonathan while the reigning be made
Speaker 1: have been champion eighty fifth for and fifty yards.
Speaker 2: What's this?
Speaker 1: What's this little note? You put in here, stack guy.
Speaker 2: Eighteen people have cashed in both Texas pokerpins. I thought
Speaker 2: that was a pretty much bigger number than I thought.
Speaker 1: But has anyone cast in both of them and the
Speaker 1: poo around it.
Speaker 2: There there's potential for Isaac Kempton and Matthew Wantman. I
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna check it right now. But even still
Speaker 2: eighteen players, I think is is quite a lot. Even
Speaker 2: with the you know, the whole multi fly aspect of
Speaker 2: the tournament, it's still pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: I think this year it was the Texas Poke Open
Speaker 1: main event, ran it back with the same two million
Speaker 1: dollar guarantee that was in the first edition last year.
Speaker 2: Isa and Matthew Wantman have cashed in three champions Club
Speaker 2: tournaments that we have run.
Speaker 1: Oh and bab bo geez okay fuvo. He played outrageous.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know what that guy was doing
Speaker 1: the best?
Speaker 2: How could I not take a chuck against him?
Speaker 1: He's he was the one who did He was the
Speaker 1: one who slow rolled Sundara on late on day two.
Speaker 1: He was yeah, he he had a full house and
Speaker 1: Sonny this was it, by the way, This was like
Speaker 1: late on day two. Sonny had like seven and a
Speaker 1: half million chips and like a half an hour later
Speaker 1: when they finished up and bagged, he had like two
Speaker 1: and a half minute just out of control. But at
Speaker 1: one point he made a flush against Vos. I think
Speaker 1: he flopped or turned a full house. And on the
Speaker 1: end Sonny called that from Voe and like, turn over
Speaker 1: an ace. I think there was two aces on board
Speaker 1: and I think a ten and he had ace ten.
Speaker 1: He just turned over an ace and Sonny said, I
Speaker 1: beat that and turned over his flush and then he
Speaker 1: slipped over the ten for the full house, and Sunny
Speaker 1: like was pissed and got into it. So that was
Speaker 1: the whole thing at the table tuber slowl do chob slow,
Speaker 1: it was the whole thing. It was all on stream.
Speaker 1: It was pretty pretty incredible, all right, two million dollars
Speaker 1: guarantee in this one beat it not by much, though,
Speaker 1: I can't say this is a fake guarantee. Two million,
Speaker 1: ninety seven thousand dollars in the prize pool. You were there,
Speaker 1: you're the PGT commissioner. You're obviously in touch with everyone
Speaker 1: that we worked with at Champions Club Texas. What was
Speaker 1: the sweat of the guarantee? Like and were you actually sweating, sir.
Speaker 2: Yes, we were sweating quite a lot. It was Look,
Speaker 2: we knew it was going to be. I think we've
Speaker 2: discussed this before. When you have a new series, you
Speaker 2: come back for the second year, it always tends to
Speaker 2: be a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of a second year is always the hardest year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we knew that. So that was we're going
Speaker 2: against that. And then as we spoke to how play is,
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about in the last part, not
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys were coming and that was
Speaker 2: a little scary. But to Champions credit, they did. They
Speaker 2: got us over the line. And what I mean by
Speaker 2: that is we had a huge increase in unique players,
Speaker 2: mainly locals. We had three x more satellite winners than
Speaker 2: last year, so that on its own made up for
Speaker 2: the the PGT REGs that would have been there blasting
Speaker 2: like last year, Sean Dee Brand, Lynn Josh Aria, Jesse,
Speaker 2: Lonas Chinaim, all these guys that put in lots of
Speaker 2: bullets that weren't there. Champions made up for it with
Speaker 2: a huge satellite program, lots of locals. I think locals
Speaker 2: just wanting to be a part of this. This year,
Speaker 2: we went from two hundred and thirty six unique entrance
Speaker 2: to two hundred and seventy five, which is a massive
Speaker 2: increase with the field also being thirty six players short
Speaker 2: this year. So look, we were sweating it the entire way,
Speaker 2: and you know, we were trending pretty good at the start.
Speaker 2: Once we hit those bigger flights on the Saturday and
Speaker 2: then the Saturday night turbo, we were a bit behind pace.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we broke through probably midway through registration on
Speaker 2: the final turbo flight, and it was a good, good
Speaker 2: sigh of relief for you know, the entire team down there,
Speaker 2: just getting through the guarantee and then obviously pushing through
Speaker 2: for another you know, ninety seven. K.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I don't know why a lot of
Speaker 1: the PGT regulars didn't go. I mean I would have
Speaker 1: assumed that many of them that traveled down to Texas
Speaker 1: for the first time likely last year for this and
Speaker 1: saw the state of play. I mean, I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I can't I have to just talk about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's the play is outrageous. I mean it's absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time talking with.
Speaker 1: I mean, we need to just cut like a highlight
Speaker 1: clip of these hands that were played out on stream
Speaker 1: and just like send them to people. Yeah, just be like,
Speaker 1: this is why you need to go to Texas.
Speaker 2: In the third high Roller, Jeremy Becker says to me,
Speaker 2: this is the softest event I've ever played. Five K
Speaker 2: hi roller with thirty nine entrants.
Speaker 1: Was that the one where he called with seven four
Speaker 1: off yes.
Speaker 2: Which was a very weird hand? I wrote, I got
Speaker 2: that hand, and I had to make sure I wrote
Speaker 2: those cards down right.
Speaker 1: Well, we were wondering if the like, We're like, are
Speaker 1: his chips wrong?
Speaker 2: Like did he like I know?
Speaker 1: I was like, no, like these guys are good, like
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't I trusts.
Speaker 2: The blinds were going up next hand, he would have
Speaker 2: been in the small blind, so that has something to
Speaker 2: do with it. I just feel like seven to four,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not the one to get in with.
Speaker 2: But hey, look, Jeremy is a field player. He's not
Speaker 2: a gto guy. You know, let him do what he
Speaker 2: wants to do. But speaking with him, we talked about
Speaker 2: this and he know, he says, the poker is great here.
Speaker 2: But the biggest problem we have and why some of
Speaker 2: these guys in the com was if you bust like,
Speaker 2: there's not much else to do. You know, Champions is
Speaker 2: a hotel with the pokeroom. Now says if you don't
Speaker 2: want to play poker, sorry, there's not much you can do.
Speaker 2: And Jeremy's like, just give me a ping punk table,
Speaker 2: give me something.
Speaker 1: I was you know what I was thinking when when,
Speaker 1: because you and I were talking a little bit obviously
Speaker 1: about this stuff. I was like, they need to put
Speaker 1: a bowling alley there. All these guys in their bowling. Now,
Speaker 1: put like a three or four lane bowling alley right there.
Speaker 1: You put like you said, you put a ping pong
Speaker 1: table room.
Speaker 2: Come up with the table room.
Speaker 3: Boom.
Speaker 2: I've got the idea. It's the winner. Are you ready
Speaker 2: for this. We're gonna we're gonna convert one of the
Speaker 2: one of the sweets right Presidential Suite to feel Home
Speaker 2: with Sweet as they like to call it, into the
Speaker 2: PGT Lounge. Okay, I'm gonna moove the tables around. We're
Speaker 2: gonna put a ping pong table there, gonna get some
Speaker 2: arcade games, snacks, deck of cards that can play Chinese poker.
Speaker 2: Because Jeremy's like, we just want to DJ and we
Speaker 2: want to gamble. We want to bet on ping pong,
Speaker 2: we want to bet on arcade games. I told him
Speaker 2: this idea. He goes because he was like, I don't
Speaker 2: think you're getting me back here, you know, and he
Speaker 2: was having an okay series. He cashed the high Roller,
Speaker 2: he cashed the main event. Now twice. He's like, I
Speaker 2: don't think he getting me back here. There's not enough
Speaker 2: for me to do. And then I told him this idea.
Speaker 2: He's like, all right, you got me back. So giving
Speaker 2: these guys, the PGT players, an outlet when they I
Speaker 2: don't want to play poker, you know, they can go upstairs.
Speaker 2: We'll set up this lounge. We'll stock it with drinks
Speaker 2: and snacks and all kinds of things that they can
Speaker 2: degen and gamble and keep them on property, keep them,
Speaker 2: you know, firing the high roller is firing the main event.
Speaker 2: I think that's one way to really get them there.
Speaker 2: The other part is, you know, it's going to be
Speaker 2: their fault because we had players messaging us the day
Speaker 2: before the main event saying, hey, could you help us
Speaker 2: get a rum I heard they're sold out. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you're going to leave it to the last day,
Speaker 2: that's a bit of an issue for as a poker player.
Speaker 2: You know, we know they're not that organized, but when
Speaker 2: you know this is a boutique property, you have to
Speaker 2: try and get your your accommodations settled earlier and kind
Speaker 2: of get in there, get the booking, come down play.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think another thing that we can probably
Speaker 1: do on our side a little bit better ahead of time.
Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned going from twenty five to seventy
Speaker 1: five satellite winners. We got to push that ahead of
Speaker 1: time more. Yeah, however we do it. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: ideally you can kind of put like a photo of
Speaker 1: all the satellite winners out there, stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 1: because that will attract a lot of the the bigger
Speaker 1: players or whatnot. So but I listen, I think that
Speaker 1: the state of play sells it. And if you're chasing value,
Speaker 1: I think it's great to head down to Texas and
Speaker 1: to Champions Club and to this event. It's you know,
Speaker 1: there's not that many big events like this iron wise
Speaker 1: in that region. I also think, listen it. The time
Speaker 1: slot is really good because right after it's done, a
Speaker 1: lot of the guys can just you know, check up
Speaker 1: a little bit to Choktaw in Oklahoma and play that
Speaker 1: World Poker Tour event, so like it times up nicely.
Speaker 1: It's not just kind of like you're going there for
Speaker 1: like one thing. Yeah, you go down to Houston, you
Speaker 1: play this event at Champions Boom, you're up to Choctaw,
Speaker 1: you're playing that WPT there. Then you come back a
Speaker 1: few weeks off. It's World Series of Poker time. That's
Speaker 1: how you do it.
Speaker 2: I think on allen to, we should try and give
Speaker 2: a little more breathing room between the USPR and Champion Club.
Speaker 2: Give these guys a you know, a week or two
Speaker 2: just to reset, relaxed, spend time family, then come over
Speaker 2: to Houston. The fact that we were going from USPO
Speaker 2: literally less than a week later the main event was starting,
Speaker 2: I think that was too tired of a window. So
Speaker 2: if we can just move USPO back a week or
Speaker 2: two weeks even, I think that will come go a
Speaker 2: long way in you know, like we always talk about
Speaker 2: player burnout and bankroll rebuilding or resetting mental resetting, that
Speaker 2: will go a long way and helping that.
Speaker 1: The guarantee was a sweat. We talked about it, but
Speaker 1: it was met at the end of the day. It
Speaker 1: seemed like overall there was a lot of really really
Speaker 1: good energy out of Champions Club. Once again, how proud
Speaker 1: are you, guys? How proud are you? You know how
Speaker 1: the main event turned out? Overall? Are you happy with everything?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think both us and Champions are
Speaker 2: pretty happy. Like I said, I kind of mentioned the
Speaker 2: huge increasing in uniques, the huge increase in locals, the
Speaker 2: satellite winners. That's all says a lot about how much
Speaker 2: effort Champions is putting into this. Also how much the
Speaker 2: local poker pool really supports Champions, really supports what we're
Speaker 2: doing there. So from that aspect, it couldn't be more
Speaker 2: happier than you know, how it turned out once we
Speaker 2: hit that guarantee.
Speaker 1: Now, in addition to the thirty three hundred dollars by
Speaker 1: main event that was won by again Sonny Sundhara two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three thousand dollars, there were four fifty
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars high roller events, all of them qualifying
Speaker 1: for the PGT. You had Ray Kartomi winning two of
Speaker 1: the four, you had David Chen winning one of the four,
Speaker 1: and then the other one was won by Elliott Smith.
Speaker 1: I told you that I would mention Chen and Kartomi
Speaker 1: later on. Here is that time. Both Kartomi and Chen
Speaker 1: cashed four times during the series. They both cashed in
Speaker 1: the main event as I already mentioned, then both of
Speaker 1: them cashed in three of the four high rollers, with
Speaker 1: Ray Kartomi winning two of the four. Kartoli won the
Speaker 1: first one for five hundred all, David Chen won the
Speaker 1: second one for fifty four thousand dollars, Elliott Smith won
Speaker 1: the third one fifty eight, six hundred and eighty dollars,
Speaker 1: and then Kartomi again winning the last one forty one thousand,
Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars for him. Kartomi cashed total from the
Speaker 1: series just under one hundred and seven thousand dollars. Chen
Speaker 1: cash total for the series eighty five thousand, seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars. Now little bit of a different look
Speaker 1: to the schedule with these high rollers. This year's Texas
Speaker 1: Poke gre Open schedule had fewer high rollers. They were
Speaker 1: also all at the five K buy and level, whereas
Speaker 1: last year you had eight of them, so cut them
Speaker 1: in half. Also last year there was a couple ten k's.
Speaker 1: There was also a couple that were pot limit Omaha
Speaker 1: as opposed to just the Nolan HoldEm So last year
Speaker 1: they did a little bit of Nolan hould them a
Speaker 1: little bit of PLO. How do you feel the adjustments
Speaker 1: worked out with with you know, the high roller stuff.
Speaker 2: The main difference with last year in this year was
Speaker 2: that last year the high roll was extended on the
Speaker 2: main event, and we saw kind of a bit of
Speaker 2: a decrease in numbers once the main event was done,
Speaker 2: So we wanted to basically overlap them during the main
Speaker 2: so that our players that were coming could come and
Speaker 2: book you know, four or five days and get full
Speaker 2: value and not have to stick around for no other reason.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of why we shifted from seven well
Speaker 2: it was seven that we added an extra one last year,
Speaker 2: but from eight down to these four, just to fit
Speaker 2: the schedule a little better, be a bit cleaner. Also,
Speaker 2: with the ten k's they didn't perform as well, so
Speaker 2: we kind of kept with the five K prize point,
Speaker 2: which just hits the locals a bit more like it's
Speaker 2: a bit more reachable for those guys, So that was
Speaker 2: kind of the change. I think it worked okay. Some
Speaker 2: of the guys really like the twenty minute level blinds,
Speaker 2: the entire way like super Turbos basically. So yeah, at
Speaker 2: this stage, I think we wouldn't really make any changes
Speaker 2: to that. You could maybe at a plow, but you know,
Speaker 2: we're doing that PLO series hopefully in November, so they
Speaker 2: have enough PLO at that point.
Speaker 1: So is it coming back next year? And if it is,
Speaker 1: what's the schedule going to look like? Is this is
Speaker 1: this like the best schedule or do you still have
Speaker 1: like fine tune adjustments that you want to make. What
Speaker 1: are you thinking?
Speaker 2: I like this schedule a lot. I hope it comes back.
Speaker 2: I think it's a good event. I like the event.
Speaker 2: I think the local players like the event, So I
Speaker 2: don't see there's a reason why we would just stop schedule.
Speaker 2: I think it is fine. I think the side events
Speaker 2: schedule could you know, use a bit of a twigging.
Speaker 2: For example, they had the Ladies' event on day two
Speaker 2: of the main you know, it makes a little tough
Speaker 2: if you know, for some of the ladies, they make
Speaker 2: day two obviously to play that event, so we could
Speaker 2: obviously flex off that. But yeah, the side events is
Speaker 2: mainly Champions Club's decision, and I kind of work with
Speaker 2: them about figuring out what may work, what may not work.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I like the schedule. I thought there was
Speaker 2: a good variety of events. Huge you know, keep the
Speaker 2: satellites going, keep everyone on property firing away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I My one suggestion would be, I think you need
Speaker 1: like a one K like opener, like the weekend before
Speaker 1: the main event.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if you're getting anyone out of
Speaker 2: town coming in for that. That's the only thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I don't know. I have to think
Speaker 1: about it more, but that's I think that would be
Speaker 1: a good position. But overall, you know, I thought it
Speaker 1: was a good event. I had fun watching the large
Speaker 1: majority of it, and I still have to kind of
Speaker 1: finish out the final table stuff because I had other obligations.
Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, I'm happy it reached
Speaker 1: the guarantee happy the I like when guarantees are a
Speaker 1: sweat because I believe that they're then a little bit
Speaker 1: more real, you know, as I always joke about fake guarantees,
Speaker 1: but this one definitely made you guys sweat quite a bit.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: But I do think also if you were to run
Speaker 1: it back the same for next year, probably a little
Speaker 1: bit more in the prize pool would be my guess
Speaker 1: as things sit right now, coupled with the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people in the US probably
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of disposable income. So just with
Speaker 1: the way everything is, you know, you got to pay
Speaker 1: for them eggs. But a year's time away, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's all changed and become a little bit better
Speaker 1: and things are. You know, there's a little bit more
Speaker 1: people that want to you know, travel down the travel
Speaker 1: part as well, Like it's I mean, it's just hard,
Speaker 1: like you know, it takes a lot to go down there,
Speaker 1: just anywhere really not it's not only just traveling to Texas.
Speaker 1: You know, there's you know, you really do have to
Speaker 1: rely on the local regional crowd, of course, and I
Speaker 1: think this event did so. I think that's a really
Speaker 1: good sign. And then yeah, hopefully we get the regulars
Speaker 1: to head back down to a good old Texas. Let's
Speaker 1: swing up. But I think it's like what sixteen hundred
Speaker 1: miles northeast to Pennsylvania in the Keystone State got the
Speaker 1: We got Pennsylvania joining the Multi State Internet Gaming Agreement.
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro recently signed the MMSIGA to bring
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania into the shared online poker market, which is great, great,
Speaker 1: great news. That agreement. The MSIGA or MESSIGA includes obviously Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: now New Jersey, Nevada, Delaware, West Virginia, and Michigan. Now
Speaker 1: put a little asterisk next to West Virginia because although
Speaker 1: online poker is legalized in the state, no one has
Speaker 1: launched yet. That's the same for other states Connecticut, Delaware,
Speaker 1: and Rhode Island, although those three aren't signed into the
Speaker 1: MSIGA as of this time. Pennsylvania originally now are announced
Speaker 1: originally legalized online poker in twenty seventeen. It became the
Speaker 1: fourth state to do so, and then they launched. The
Speaker 1: first operator to launch was Poker Stars in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: So I guess that timeline there is something that like
Speaker 1: I look at because it took, you know, two years
Speaker 1: to go from when you legalize it to when you
Speaker 1: got the first operator launching, and then here you got
Speaker 1: the governor, Governor Shapiro signing this agreement and then it
Speaker 1: was like three days boom on Monday, which was yesterday,
Speaker 1: April twenty eighth, that a couple of the operators are
Speaker 1: ready to go. They're in multiple states were often running,
Speaker 1: so the fact that it turned around so quick, I
Speaker 1: think is like probably the biggest thing to me at least,
Speaker 1: which hopefully is a sign of more things to come. Now,
Speaker 1: we also had a great opportunity here at Poker Go,
Speaker 1: you know, the Governor's team, Governor Josh Shapiro, his team
Speaker 1: reached out to us. We were able to link up
Speaker 1: on a special interview and it was really cool. Again,
Speaker 1: big big news for online poker in the US with
Speaker 1: this happening. You know, I know it's like a lot
Speaker 1: of places might be like, yeah, well you have fifty states,
Speaker 1: you know, there's not that many on board. But I mean,
Speaker 1: trust me, this is this is a big move in
Speaker 1: the right direction. So you know, Pennsylvania getting involved, it
Speaker 1: creates much bigger prize pools. You know, the games are
Speaker 1: going to be better. Those players are all now part
Speaker 1: of a much bigger player pool. You already have some
Speaker 1: of the operators you know, doing stuff in terms of
Speaker 1: bigger prize pools, the stuff in the summer as it
Speaker 1: relates to the World Series of Poker. Because they are involved,
Speaker 1: they are in the different states, you know, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a ton more action. I know we're gonna hit
Speaker 1: on the online bracelet schedule. But you know, the online
Speaker 1: bracelet schedule, of course, does give credence to the fact
Speaker 1: that Pennsylvania is now roped in with the other states.
Speaker 1: So and myself as a player in Nevada, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's hugely beneficial to me being able to have
Speaker 1: more games, to play, bigger and better tournaments, all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. So I thought that that was really cool.
Speaker 1: But President Governor Josh Shapiro, he actually got to chat
Speaker 1: with our president poker Go President Maury Eskandnnie and that
Speaker 1: was an exclusive interview that these guys linked up on.
Speaker 1: So it was a video interview that the two hopped
Speaker 1: on a zoom call and chatted. You can find that
Speaker 1: on the poker Go YouTube channel. But we'll play the
Speaker 1: audio for you guys here right now, so if you
Speaker 1: haven't heard it here that is, let's get to it.
Speaker 4: Governor, what an honor? How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm so good? How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm doing just fine, doing a lot better now that
Speaker 4: I know an official like you is advocating for poker.
Speaker 4: This is this is truly amazing.
Speaker 3: It's a dream come through, sir. Absolutely, no, I it's
Speaker 3: a big deal. I'm excited about it, happy to talk
Speaker 3: to you today.
Speaker 4: Well, pleasure is all mine, and I mean the fact
Speaker 4: that you are the highest ranking official that I know
Speaker 4: all my years in poker that supporting us. It's so grateful.
Speaker 4: And what made this the right time for Pennsylvania to
Speaker 4: join the multi state and the gaming.
Speaker 3: Well, well, first off, more it's really cool for me
Speaker 3: to be with you. I love your background. By the way,
Speaker 3: it looks great. I'll just say what made me want
Speaker 3: to do it is. I think it's common sense. There's
Speaker 3: a bunch of folks like you out there, including one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand people right here in my state,
Speaker 3: in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, who love to play poker online,
Speaker 3: and I think they should be able to play poker online,
Speaker 3: not just with people from Pennsylvania, but they should be
Speaker 3: able to reach out and deal with people from other states,
Speaker 3: not have to wait as long for a game, and
Speaker 3: have games that are more vibrant, more competitive, and where
Speaker 3: they you know, they get to compete against more people
Speaker 3: kind of at their level. So I just think it's
Speaker 3: common sense, it's smart, and I know you probably don't
Speaker 3: care about this, but it's good for the Commonwealth taxpayers
Speaker 3: as well, So I think it's a win win all around.
Speaker 4: Well, I care more than you can possitively imagine. I've
Speaker 4: often wonder a game that's been around for some thousand
Speaker 4: a year and came to United States in the eighteen hundred,
Speaker 4: just like everything else that comes here was raised to
Speaker 4: new heights, so many different variety of games that were
Speaker 4: added here, all the creativity, everything being played in seventy countries.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not legal in birthplace of Texas, legal in
Speaker 5: eight states or so, but it's not just you know, like,
Speaker 5: what is it going to take wherever we want to
Speaker 5: take your lead?
Speaker 3: Look, I'm a big believer in giving people the freedom
Speaker 3: to do the kinds of things they want to do,
Speaker 3: obviously within the bounds of the law and obviously within
Speaker 3: the bounds of responsibility. But the way I look at
Speaker 3: this is, you know, folks are playing poker all the time,
Speaker 3: and whether you're doing it at a table or whether
Speaker 3: you're doing it at a casino, you're doing it with
Speaker 3: some buddies, or you're doing it online. I just think
Speaker 3: you should have the freedom to do that. And by
Speaker 3: the way, if you don't want to play poker, if
Speaker 3: you don't want to gamble, You don't have to do
Speaker 3: that either. It's totally fine. No one's forcing you. So
Speaker 3: I am hopeful that as Pennsylvania, we're now the biggest
Speaker 3: state as part of this compact, Pennsylvania does it, maybe
Speaker 3: more states will join in, more Americans will get the
Speaker 3: opportunity to participate with one another in this great game that,
Speaker 3: as you said, has been around thousands of years. I
Speaker 3: think it's a great opportunity.
Speaker 4: Do you really feel like you're getting closer to having
Speaker 4: this be connected nationally, like having a market that's like
Speaker 4: in like sports betting in forty.
Speaker 3: I hope so, I hope so. And again not because
Speaker 3: I'm trying to encourage people to go out and gamble
Speaker 3: or play poker or do something else.
Speaker 2: It's up to you.
Speaker 3: But if you want to do that, I think it's
Speaker 3: important to make it easy, right, have it on your
Speaker 3: phone or have it in your home, you know, however
Speaker 3: you want to do it, or show up at a casinover,
Speaker 3: show up and in some other way to do it.
Speaker 3: I think it's common sense.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 3: What I've learned over my years in this business is
Speaker 3: a lot of times folks are just knee jerk reacting
Speaker 3: against something, right, there's against it. And if you actually
Speaker 3: get a minute to have a conversation and say, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, Pennsylvania's doing it, Michigan's doing it, Jersey, other
Speaker 3: states are doing it. Maybe explain to me why you
Speaker 3: think it's a bad idea. Why aren't you doing it?
Speaker 3: And so when you get rid of that sort of
Speaker 3: immediate political no and you're able to bolster your argument
Speaker 3: by saying a lot of other states are doing it,
Speaker 3: and ask people what they're real deep objection to to
Speaker 3: it is. You know what most time they say is well,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess it's kind of always been
Speaker 3: that way. And for me, I hate when people say, well,
Speaker 3: that's the way it's always been and that's the way
Speaker 3: it's going to be. That frustrates me to no end.
Speaker 4: I've had people come to me know poka gambling as
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, just you know, I've been in
Speaker 4: the industry forever. Poker players don't like to be called gamblers.
Speaker 4: They like to be called poker players because he gambled,
Speaker 4: He gambled anything gamble at golf. It's not a game,
Speaker 4: you know, like God knows. I mean, when you live
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas. You gamble with everything but his choice.
Speaker 4: You know you're having fun, you know you're doing something
Speaker 4: that he can afford. And poker, there's just so much
Speaker 4: to the game. So, h let me ask you a
Speaker 4: fun question. It sounds to me that you've been into
Speaker 4: this a little bit. Which state do you think from
Speaker 4: the eight states that have now online gaming, which one
Speaker 4: do you think has the best poker players?
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, man, you know what the answer is. Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: Of course. Look, I am competitive as hell, right, So
Speaker 3: I want to beat everybody at everything and whatever sport,
Speaker 3: whatever game, whatever you're doing. And I think Pennsylvanians have
Speaker 3: that attitude. We want to be the best. With the
Speaker 3: birthplace in democracy, we're where it all started, and so
Speaker 3: of course we want to win it everything from our
Speaker 3: Super Bowl winning Eagles to you know, every other team.
Speaker 3: We just want to be the best. And I know
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania poker players want to be the best, and I
Speaker 3: think we are.
Speaker 4: Well. One of these days, I'm hoping maybe perhaps some
Speaker 4: sort of a tournament in our studio in poker got
Speaker 4: studio in Las Vegas and have different players from the
Speaker 4: states come in, maybe the governors, maybe maybe a game
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 3: These That would be cool.
Speaker 4: We should do that, all right, I got I will
Speaker 4: send an invitation to everybody. I would love to do
Speaker 4: that and see which governor is the best player.
Speaker 3: That would be a lot of fun. We'll probably all
Speaker 3: talk a lot of shit on one another, even though
Speaker 3: we all really like each other, but we'll have a
Speaker 3: lot of fun. Exactly exactly. That'd be great.
Speaker 4: Well, this is truly an honor, and I meant it.
Speaker 4: It is dream come true. We are in this industry. Nothing,
Speaker 4: nothing will will be lifting this industry more than in
Speaker 4: national poker across the team.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited to help one hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 3: Pennsylvanians and hopefully I'm world grow, compete with others from
Speaker 3: across the country and see this industry grow. Mare. I
Speaker 3: want you to know you're here in the Governor's reception
Speaker 3: room here in our state capitol in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Through
Speaker 3: that door over there is my office, and I just
Speaker 3: signed the Multi State Compact before walking out here to
Speaker 3: talk to you. It goes into effect Monday, so poker
Speaker 3: players will have the opportunity to compete online across state lines.
Speaker 3: And we're really excited about it.
Speaker 4: Absolutely wonderful news, wonderful, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Great, thank you, Mary. Look forward to seeing you and
Speaker 3: we got to have that game with the other GUVs.
Speaker 4: It'll happen, thank you.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So that was really cool. Listen. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about Joshapiro, Okay, the fact that he
Speaker 1: was talking so casually, the fact that he swore in
Speaker 1: the interview, I'm a gready to vote for this guy
Speaker 1: for anything. I mean, I'm ready to go. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go. Can we play some poker? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's definitely he seems a guy that I would
Speaker 1: get behind. And again, you know, just very cool overall that,
Speaker 1: you know, he pushed this through. I remember hearing I
Speaker 1: can't remember when it exactly was, whether it was several
Speaker 1: months ago or you know, a year or two ago,
Speaker 1: when he urged the Gaming Commission there in Pennsylvania to
Speaker 1: start approaching getting involved with the multi state agreement and
Speaker 1: then boom, he signs it. A couple of days later,
Speaker 1: Monday happens. You know, these these operators are in. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just incredible. So the I mentioned all the states, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Nevada, Delaware, West Virginia, and Michigan. So of
Speaker 1: the ones that are like linked right now with operators,
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is the largest. Thirteen point one million is the
Speaker 1: estimated population, fifth largest state in the US. So that's
Speaker 1: a big one. Yeah, that's a very big one. Michigan
Speaker 1: tenth ten point two million, New Jersey, you know, not
Speaker 1: too far off, nine point six million, that's the tenth
Speaker 1: and eleventh largest states. And then Nevada. You know, again,
Speaker 1: this is why it lately benefits people like Tim and
Speaker 1: I who play on dissip dot com because Nevada is
Speaker 1: only three point three million and we're the thirty first
Speaker 1: largest state by population. So US getting a state like
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania that is what more than four x hour population
Speaker 1: into this, like boom, let's go, Like I'm ready, Like
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the games. I'm ready for the tournaments,
Speaker 1: like I can't wait a little bit of a rundown
Speaker 1: on the timeline here on yesterday. We're recording this on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: April twenty ninth. But on Monday, April twenty eighth, you
Speaker 1: had bet MGMPA and Borgata PA. They connected their player
Speaker 1: pools in Pennsylvania with New Jersey and Michigan. Now those
Speaker 1: operators are not currently in Nevada, but we've heard that,
Speaker 1: you know, BETMGM could be coming to Nevada pretty soon,
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully soon, but we'll see, you know, I
Speaker 1: if I were to guess, I would guess by the
Speaker 1: end of the year. Obviously MGM has a footprint here
Speaker 1: in the state of Nevada, you know, but that's still
Speaker 1: you know, TBD and those operators celebrated with they have
Speaker 1: this one hundred and nine dollars buying c note tournament.
Speaker 1: They made that a free roll and they're calling it
Speaker 1: the Free Note. They also announced what they're calling the
Speaker 1: May Millions May eighth through eleventh, with eighteen events. I
Speaker 1: think that spans a weekend, eighteen events, million dollar guaranteed
Speaker 1: across the entire series, one thousand dollars buying championship event
Speaker 1: that has a four hundred thousand dollars guaranteed. So already,
Speaker 1: like you have these operators coming out with some big stuff.
Speaker 1: You have WSP in Pennsylvania. They connected with Nevada, New
Speaker 1: Jersey and Michigan and they were the first operator with
Speaker 1: a four state network. Again, Bet MGM, Burgada they're in
Speaker 1: three states, but WSP is in four states, which is
Speaker 1: very cool, very very cool. Now poker Stars, everyone knows
Speaker 1: Poker Stars. They have not yet can their Pennsylvania platform
Speaker 1: with New Jersey and Michigan, so that's still TBD, and we'll,
Speaker 1: I guess, we'll see what happens. I did see something
Speaker 1: from I want to say it was a new g
Speaker 1: aurora from Pokerfeus on social media earlier today that said,
Speaker 1: I think you put a screenshot of the lobby of
Speaker 1: Poker Stars and it didn't have any tournaments scheduled like
Speaker 1: past April thirtieth, So like, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: like like what's coming type of thing, or like maybe
Speaker 1: they just haven't scheduled that, who knows, you know, but
Speaker 1: I would expect at some point they probably get involved,
Speaker 1: right will be like BETAMGM where they won't be in Nevada,
Speaker 1: but I think they'll they'll, you know, they'll they'll get
Speaker 1: into the other ones and that'll obviously create that and
Speaker 1: then just quickly on the other operators or on the
Speaker 1: operators as a whole. Just as a little bit of
Speaker 1: a summary here, wsp PA is combined with Nevada New
Speaker 1: Jersey and Michigan, so they're in four states. BETAMGM Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: is combined with New Jersey and Michigan. Poker Stars Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: is still separate. New Jersey and Michigan are combined, but
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. And then the other one
Speaker 1: is Bette Rivers, which is you know, speaking of the
Speaker 1: Texas Poke Ropean and Phil Hellmuth and you know, he's
Speaker 1: he was on stream saying I'm a co owner of
Speaker 1: the Champions Club and this and that and the other thing.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Anyway, his new sponsor, Bette Rivers. They are in only Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: but they did send it out a release that said
Speaker 1: they are preparing for a multi state launch, so that's
Speaker 1: likely coming at some point. I don't think there was
Speaker 1: a timeline given for that, but but yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: kind of the rundown there. Thoughts, sir, thoughts, you.
Speaker 2: Got me, not really because I don't really understand your
Speaker 2: legal world here in America. But it is a good thing.
Speaker 2: It is a good thing for poker that we are
Speaker 2: getting more and more states involved, and it's great for
Speaker 2: obviously the players that are on WSP. You know, whenever
Speaker 2: Poker Stars joins in, you bet MGM as well. It's
Speaker 2: a good thing for the industry hopefully. You know, as
Speaker 2: you kind of touched on some of these states that
Speaker 2: kind of in limbo, if they can join in too,
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger,
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe we're going to get back those
Speaker 2: good old days of pre Black Friday.
Speaker 1: Well I don't know if that's gonna happen, but let's
Speaker 1: just hope the good days.
Speaker 2: I was okay at poker back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you never know. I mean, listen, I think
Speaker 1: it's it's obviously big news. It benefits us pretty greatly
Speaker 1: here in Nevada with WSIP linking up right away with
Speaker 1: those other states, you know, so that'll be good. You
Speaker 1: know WSIP was previously linked with New Jersey and Michigan.
Speaker 1: It was New Jersey, Michigan and Nevada. So you know,
Speaker 1: once that happened, you definitely saw a boost at least
Speaker 1: I think so playing online and now with Pennsylvania and Wales,
Speaker 1: I think that'll be really really really good. All right,
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Speaker 2: You guys know where to go. Link is in the
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Speaker 1: All right. So, speaking of w SP's involvement with the
Speaker 1: Pennsylvan stuff, they then ws pdawsp dot com announced their
Speaker 1: online bracelet schedule thirty online gold bracelet events this year,
Speaker 1: which is actually, if you can believe it, sir, fewer
Speaker 1: online bracelets than last year. Can you believe they actually
Speaker 1: had less in a bracelet schedule?
Speaker 2: They could add more, let's not, let's not get out
Speaker 2: home add more.
Speaker 1: And the reason why it's less is because last year
Speaker 1: they had thirty as well, but they also had seven
Speaker 1: for Pennsylvania loss.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now everything's combined and they only have the thirty. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now it's pretty robust. There's more guaranteed prize money in
Speaker 1: the series. I believe this year it's five point five
Speaker 1: million versus last year. I think it was three or
Speaker 1: three and a half million. I'm guaranteed. Not every event
Speaker 1: is guaranteed, but there are a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of guarantees. The online Bracelet events they span May thirty
Speaker 1: first through July fifteenth. The full World Series of Poker
Speaker 1: is May twenty seventh, I believe through July sixteenth, So
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of days cut off on each side,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. They are running it back with five
Speaker 1: live final tables. Those five live final tables, so you'll
Speaker 1: start playing online, you'll reach the live you'll reach the
Speaker 1: final table, they'll pause the tournament. Those people will come
Speaker 1: out to Las Vegas and they will play at the
Speaker 1: horseshoe for the bracelet. Those are the thirty two hundred
Speaker 1: dollars Nolan Hold Them high Roller, the fifty three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars Nolanman Hold Them high Roller six Max, A twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars Nolaman Hold Them Event, fifty three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars Nolaman Hold Them high Roller Championship, the thirty two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars high Roller six Max. Now I don't really
Speaker 1: understand the fourth one that I mentioned, the fifty three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars Nolan Hold Them high Roller Championship. Shouldn't the
Speaker 1: championship event be bigger than everything else?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think last year was a ten game, right.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a better structure.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just saying, like, you have another fifty three
Speaker 1: hundred high roller like I would think.
Speaker 2: You would have, Yeah, you would, Yeah, differentiate it.
Speaker 1: Best buy ins across the entire thirty online gold brased
Speaker 1: events started two hundred and fifty dollars, which I think
Speaker 1: last year was three thirty three. I think was the
Speaker 1: lowest one, so a little bit smaller on that end,
Speaker 1: but not you know, not that much different. And then
Speaker 1: of course up to the fifty three hundred dollars and
Speaker 1: then they are you know, this does include the shared
Speaker 1: liquidity across Nevada, New Jersey, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. So I
Speaker 1: would expect these to be quite big.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I think in recent years you and I have both
Speaker 1: done you know, our article where we mentioned all the
Speaker 1: different winners, and sometimes it's like, you know, this guy
Speaker 1: won twenty k, and you know, so you're not going
Speaker 1: to get any more of that. You know, these are
Speaker 1: going to be some pretty pretty juicy prize pools, some
Speaker 1: pretty big first place prizes, so you know it'll be
Speaker 1: pretty good over.
Speaker 2: I think I very confident this is new. But it
Speaker 2: looks like they have a couple of multi day.
Speaker 1: No they did that before, Yeah, but but they are.
Speaker 1: They are bringing that that stuff back.
Speaker 2: I know they've done on GG, I just didn't know
Speaker 2: they've done it on Yeah. I think one of them
Speaker 2: is a Colossus, Yeah, ones a Mystery Yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Have a bunch of Mystery Boundary. I think all the
Speaker 1: Mystery Bounty events, if I remember correct when I was
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule earlier, I think all the Mystery
Speaker 1: bound events are the ones with the guarantees on them.
Speaker 2: They have that million million million.
Speaker 1: Mystery boundies are you know, that's what everyone loves to play,
Speaker 1: so of course they're gonna have plenty of those.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many I'll play this summer, you know,
Speaker 1: just because obviously we have a lot of work and whatever.
Speaker 1: But something I would like to play is they have
Speaker 1: two twenty five scrambles, So those are on there. So
Speaker 1: those are nice and juicy to try and win yourself
Speaker 1: a w S a P main events.
Speaker 2: So those also have guarantees. Yeah yeah, well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course you said the other things with guarantees of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I got you. So there's that. That's
Speaker 1: the the I guess part A of the w c
Speaker 1: P news that that recently dropped, and then part B
Speaker 1: is that the Wasit plus app is coming to Vegas.
Speaker 1: You know, I think we kind of thought it might,
Speaker 1: but then we heard it might not, you know, just
Speaker 1: some regulation stuff here in Vegas with with the casinos
Speaker 1: here and whatever. But they got it done, so the
Speaker 1: app is coming to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I do want to mention that a lot of the
Speaker 1: information that I gathered around the Wasity plus app stuff
Speaker 1: I got from the good team over at Pokerfuse pokerfuse
Speaker 1: dot com. They do a bunch of great work. Nick Jones,
Speaker 1: you know, does incredible work.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Nick Jones also had a great thread on Twitter poker
Speaker 1: pro Jones is his handle, just talking about all the
Speaker 1: different Pennsylvania stuff that's happening a news Aurora. As I
Speaker 1: already mentioned, there's a lot of good stuff over there
Speaker 1: as well. So to shout out to those guys for
Speaker 1: all the information that they constantly populated and there by
Speaker 1: the way they're like often you know, I think I said,
Speaker 1: you know, you and I kind of thought that it
Speaker 1: was to be plus app could come, but we also
Speaker 1: thought maybe it wouldn't come this year, maybe for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. They called it. They were like, no, this
Speaker 1: is coming for twenty twenty five. So they were on
Speaker 1: the ball, as they are many times. They tend to
Speaker 1: predict that things are coming and they likely happen. They're
Speaker 1: also very well sourced, so of course those predictions do
Speaker 1: carry a lot of weight. Anyway, about the details of
Speaker 1: this now, it is said to be needed by all
Speaker 1: players to enter tournaments. I think that that's now. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I I think you saw it, but
Speaker 1: we both saw Kevin Matt tweet something right that is
Speaker 1: not sleted, but he had all these responses but those
Speaker 1: aren't deleted, so like, I don't know what happened. But
Speaker 1: like one of the things that we saw in that
Speaker 1: now deleted tweet was was it like registration is only
Speaker 1: going to be open like nine am to ten pm
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a very iffy. Yes, but but if you.
Speaker 1: Think about it, if they are requiring the WSP plus app,
Speaker 1: and you can do all the registration through the WSP
Speaker 1: plus app, well, then you can obviously cut the actual
Speaker 1: live in person registration, right, Like that would make sense
Speaker 1: because you're just trying to funnel everything to a much
Speaker 1: more streamlined and efficient thing, you know, much more overhead
Speaker 1: on the cost. You don't need all those people in
Speaker 1: there working twenty four to seven, you know, you can
Speaker 1: just have people can you know, verify their account, load
Speaker 1: their account however they do that, and then you know,
Speaker 1: registered tournaments right through the app. I believe. I also
Speaker 1: saw no more Bravo Poker Live, which was I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: Bravo Poker Live was it was a benefit to the
Speaker 1: WSP yes, but it was also a bit archaic.
Speaker 2: It was like very old.
Speaker 1: This Waspy plus app looks awesome. So I know it's
Speaker 1: been in use down at the WSP Paradise and Bahamas
Speaker 1: for the past two years, but you know, we haven't
Speaker 1: been there, we haven't used it, so it'll be our
Speaker 1: first time using it. So I think it'll be a
Speaker 1: big help.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It also is going to allow you to track you know,
Speaker 1: like you'll have your tournament clock right there, you'll have
Speaker 1: players remaining price. Well, I just think of it like,
Speaker 1: you know, when when I went to play the NAPT
Speaker 1: event the Poker Stars an APT event at Resorts World,
Speaker 1: and you had to use the Poker Stars Live app. Ye,
Speaker 1: everything was in the app. So that's just what I
Speaker 1: think this is. And that sort of stuff is great.
Speaker 1: It's certainly going to streamline the process. I'm gonna definitely
Speaker 1: try and you know, I'm gonna play five or six
Speaker 1: events I think this summer, but like try and set
Speaker 1: up my account in the early days just so I
Speaker 1: can press a couple of buttons, not have to wait
Speaker 1: in any lines, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So so we I guess I'm just concerned about is
Speaker 2: it allowed. I mean, I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker 1: How can they announce it if it's not allowed?
Speaker 2: Hey done stuff we had before. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: just like I think also, I mean, I love the app.
Speaker 2: I love everything that they're trying to do with it,
Speaker 2: and obviously sweating Paradise through the app was always good.
Speaker 2: Just you're coming to Nevada, which has the strictest, you know,
Speaker 2: gaming regulations, and I'm just wondering, is everything signed off?
Speaker 2: That's what I would say.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think they're coming out with the news
Speaker 1: if it's not signed off. Secondary to that, I think
Speaker 1: Nevada in general needs to like get with the times.
Speaker 2: Yes, that'll agree with that.
Speaker 1: It's not just in this situation. Like I would say
Speaker 1: the same thing about like the way Nevada operates with
Speaker 1: sports betting, like all this silly nonsense, like like let's
Speaker 1: go Nevada, Like you're losing. I see all these numbers
Speaker 1: from all the reporters out there, like you know Colorado
Speaker 1: sports betting numbers, New Jersey, Like you know, they're doing
Speaker 1: pretty well and they are, like they have a much
Speaker 1: better user experience for a lot of their stuff versus
Speaker 1: here in Nevada. So fix it, guys, Like let's go
Speaker 1: now I'm also kind of a bit of a weird purist.
Speaker 1: I do really like actually going up to the cage,
Speaker 1: actually putting my money down, actually getting a ticket, Like,
Speaker 1: I like that feeling. I know I've talked with Jeff
Speaker 1: Platt about this. I know I've talked with you about this.
Speaker 2: Like, I actually like it.
Speaker 1: Now save me the two hour line. I get it.
Speaker 1: That's why I would usually register like eleven thirty at night,
Speaker 1: the night before stuff like that, because we're always there.
Speaker 1: But uh, but but yeah, this will be a really
Speaker 1: good change of pace. I thought when you were gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm worried that you're gonna be like, are you sure,
Speaker 1: like all the super seniors are gonna be able to
Speaker 1: use this app lit? Yeah, I mean that's the one thing.
Speaker 2: It's also you know, it's the deal. It's too right.
Speaker 2: The dealers have to input on bus players. It's gonna
Speaker 2: add a bit happened too. I would assume that's how
Speaker 2: I do it, and they do the chip counts and
Speaker 2: stuff like. That's gonna slow it's gonna slow the hands
Speaker 2: down because they're gonna fumble over the clock and check
Speaker 2: people in bus people.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was all part of it I
Speaker 1: thought it was.
Speaker 2: I'm getting seen that like, if they're going to go,
Speaker 2: they're going to go all in. That's what I mean,
Speaker 2: more than.
Speaker 1: You're soft for the first year, like you kind of
Speaker 1: require all the it's you, it's your soft launch, you know,
Speaker 1: to get all the players to download it to use it,
Speaker 1: and then you bring in the next wave of it
Speaker 1: for like twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well they're not going to do everything then
Speaker 2: I think it'll be fine. But yeah, just imagine having
Speaker 2: to train the dealers and getting you know, all hundreds
Speaker 2: of dealers and thousands of dealers to be able to
Speaker 2: use something they've never used it for.
Speaker 1: Sound like Matt Savage over here just anti training people.
Speaker 2: That I'm not anti training at all, but like this
Speaker 2: news just came out less than a month before the
Speaker 2: World Series starts. That's more. My point is that you
Speaker 2: know you've hired, you've already hired dealers, and you probably
Speaker 2: start in the training process. You know that these guys
Speaker 2: might be scrambling internally to to get everyone up to
Speaker 2: up to scratch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's also why I say that it's probably
Speaker 1: not going to be a dealer. I think it's not
Speaker 1: going to be on the tables, like it's not going
Speaker 1: to be that robust. I mean, listen, if it is
Speaker 1: cool whatever, but I just don't think it is going
Speaker 1: to be for the first year. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be one of those players saying focus on registration,
Speaker 1: streamline that entire process, and then add that next wave
Speaker 1: you know for dowasit P plus app two point zero
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that, you know, coming
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six. So that's where my head is.
Speaker 1: I do kind of wish or maybe I wonder And
Speaker 1: I was looking around on the WASP dot com website
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find a lot of information about it.
Speaker 1: But you know, like I downloaded the app right like
Speaker 1: you said, to sweat some of the stuff down at
Speaker 1: the Bahamas. You know, why can I can I go
Speaker 1: to Horseshoe right now and load it? Like can I
Speaker 1: can I take care of it now? Like what do
Speaker 1: I have or do I have to wait till like
Speaker 1: you know, May twenty seventh, and like when everyone's there,
Speaker 1: Like can I just get this out of.
Speaker 2: The way that I don't know, I'm like actually doing
Speaker 2: my profile now because obviously, like I said, I already
Speaker 2: had it. It was linked to my club gg account
Speaker 2: as well, so Alady found it.
Speaker 1: And I think it's all. It's all I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: what what do they call it? I forget what they
Speaker 1: call the log in, but like your club gg account
Speaker 1: is linked, this is linked, poker Steak account is linked.
Speaker 1: Like it's all linked, which is great, Like that's what
Speaker 1: you want. You want that ease, you know, so so
Speaker 1: that's all happening. So that's that's really good. I forget
Speaker 1: what it's called, Like you have.
Speaker 2: Like a GG pass or like what, Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that's what I figure what it.
Speaker 1: Is when you have to like I see it. It
Speaker 1: prompts when I go to sign into poker Steak. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, I you know, I like that everything is
Speaker 1: is linked together. And then you know, I would say
Speaker 1: probably down the line, you get at least in my
Speaker 1: idea of a perfect world, like if I have money
Speaker 1: on ws P dot com, this should all be linked
Speaker 1: in with WIP and then I should also be able
Speaker 1: to buy into live tournaments with the money in my
Speaker 1: online account, like what like you know, what's the what's
Speaker 1: the difference if it comes out of like what did
Speaker 1: I think they called the Paris Tournament account. I think
Speaker 1: they called it, you know, like what's the difference if
Speaker 1: it comes out of that bucket or if it comes
Speaker 1: out of my online bucket, like I would, you know,
Speaker 1: wherever I have the money, Like I should just be
Speaker 1: able to be like, yeah, I'm gonna use this option,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think they said that you can
Speaker 1: you can do PayPal to load it that Paris Tournament account.
Speaker 1: I think credit card as well, probably some sort of
Speaker 1: wire transfer. Again, I kind of looked around WSB dot com.
Speaker 1: I couldn't find it, you know, ahead of this episode,
Speaker 1: but you know, in the coming weeks, coming episodes, I
Speaker 1: think we'll get a little bit more clarity on on
Speaker 1: how this is all gonna work out. And I'm assuming
Speaker 1: with the deleted tweet from keV Math, you know, it's
Speaker 1: also probably still a little bit of a work in
Speaker 1: progress in terms of the messaging that that you know,
Speaker 1: they're getting out there with you know, Kevi Math obviously
Speaker 1: being the divisiity social medias are so yeah, so I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, stay tuned to that. But I mean I
Speaker 1: would say you can also probably download the app wherever
Speaker 1: you are right now and kind of get ahead start,
Speaker 1: get a little feel.
Speaker 2: For it, you know whatever, get a verify your profile
Speaker 2: and identity, do all that stuff. Get that out of
Speaker 2: the way now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know, obviously once you get here,
Speaker 1: when you come, you're gonna have to get all that
Speaker 1: squared away. But at least you'll be you know, one
Speaker 1: step ahead of everyone else as opposed to coming here
Speaker 1: and you know, you walk into the registration line, they
Speaker 1: tell you got to do this and then whatever.
Speaker 2: So Super Senior's Day is going to be a fun
Speaker 2: day at the registration case. Well, that's what.
Speaker 1: That's kind of one thing that I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: confused about is I believe I've seen that they're still
Speaker 1: going to have the regular registration open, but then I've
Speaker 1: also seen that you need to have the app. So
Speaker 1: like again, that's what when I say like the super
Speaker 1: Senior or the Seniors, I mean, sorry, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: we're kind of you know, bashing you guys a little
Speaker 1: bit here, but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, then also, what if you don't have a smartphone,
Speaker 1: there has to be some work around. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean not everyone has a smartphone.
Speaker 2: Not everyone has a smartphone. Yeah, look, it's gonna take
Speaker 2: some time. It's just like any kind of you know,
Speaker 2: technology changes to people. It's gonna it's gonna take a
Speaker 2: little bit of a bit of time before everyone's adjusted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll say that, you know, all in all,
Speaker 1: very positive move, good move. So you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna make things a lot more efficient, a lot
Speaker 1: easier during the summer. You know, if you're somebody who
Speaker 1: who obviously wants to like deposit money on there and
Speaker 1: all that sort of thing, you get that squared away.
Speaker 1: It should alleviate having the stand in long lines like
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, which is great. I also
Speaker 1: gonna help like if you have like simple things like
Speaker 1: you have the tournament clock right there and it's synced
Speaker 1: on your phone, so you don't have to like get
Speaker 1: up and be like hey serious, set a timer for
Speaker 1: twelve minutes, and then you know, you and I are
Speaker 1: walking in the hallway, You're like, oh, how much time
Speaker 1: do we have left? I have thirteen minutes? Why I
Speaker 1: have eleven?
Speaker 2: Oh? Well what is it?
Speaker 4: You know, like all that.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just right there on your phone,
Speaker 1: which is really great. So again, I think this is
Speaker 1: a positive thing and uh. You know that combined with
Speaker 1: the fact that we now have the online bracelet schedule,
Speaker 1: we got joint player pools, you know, with Pennsylvania now
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, it's it's time, baby, let's go.
Speaker 1: We're a month away from everything. Poker Go will be
Speaker 1: coming out with its streaming plans pretty soon, and we've
Speaker 1: been working hard at it, just kind of trying to
Speaker 1: nail everything down. Excited for that, you know, obviously excited
Speaker 1: for the summer, and yeah, I'm looking forward to what
Speaker 1: else you got for.
Speaker 2: It to be a great summer, is it? Yeah? Of course?
Speaker 1: So okay, well you want me. How about this? We've
Speaker 1: been really positive. Let's get negative for a second. Oh god, no,
Speaker 1: why not? Like I can't, I can't just let a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of you know, sunshine and rainbow has been
Speaker 1: blowing out everyone's ass. We got to get a little negative.
Speaker 1: I'm now. I will also say that I don't know,
Speaker 1: necessarily think that what I'm about to say is negative.
Speaker 1: It's it's like a negative prediction in a way. It's
Speaker 1: it's I'm not fully ready to like, you know, ink
Speaker 1: the prediction, like sign the dotted line and send it in.
Speaker 1: But it's it's been working. It's like in the It's
Speaker 1: in the It's in the take Oven. And I think
Speaker 1: WSP actually comes out in the positive through all of this.
Speaker 1: And what I'm gonna say is that there is a
Speaker 1: crap ton of poker in Vegas this summer. Okay. I
Speaker 1: also think that generally speaking, just with the way that
Speaker 1: again people having kind of less money to spend. Also
Speaker 1: as it pertains to the summer, are the Europeans going
Speaker 1: to come over? Just with everything that's going on, like
Speaker 1: with the politics and you know, all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I feel like if people were
Speaker 1: going to sit out, they might sit out. If you're
Speaker 1: kind of on the fence, maybe you lean a little
Speaker 1: bit more towards not coming versus coming, Like I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly. So there's that. Now, do you
Speaker 1: also lose people in Vegas in general because of something
Speaker 1: like Pennsylvania joining where now Pennsylvania gets action within the
Speaker 1: bigger player pool, they get action to thirty online bracelets,
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't have to make a week or two
Speaker 1: trip out here. And what I'm gonna say is that
Speaker 1: everywhere outside of the w s AP, from what I
Speaker 1: can tell, has guarantees on every single event on their schedule.
Speaker 1: Sp of course doesn't need to do that. They only
Speaker 1: they guarantee what the Gladiators event, they guarantee a million
Speaker 1: dollar bounty and a million dollar first place prize. In
Speaker 1: the Mystery Millions event, they guarantee, you know, a million
Speaker 1: dollar first place prize and a millionaire maker. But like
Speaker 1: those prize pools get a bazillion dollar, so it's not
Speaker 1: even that big of a deal, right, So they don't
Speaker 1: ever have to really worry about missing guarantees. But everyone
Speaker 1: else does. Yeah, and some of these guarantees are freaking huge,
Speaker 1: So I'm a little bit worried that a lot of
Speaker 1: the other places are gonna missed a lot of guarantees,
Speaker 1: you know. Now, why say that like this can be
Speaker 1: quote unquote positive for dovaspvasitp like their numbers could be down,
Speaker 1: let's say, like if everything's down, but they don't have guarantees,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter, right. And also they have
Speaker 1: more events this year than they had last year, so
Speaker 1: as a whole, they probably go up in terms of
Speaker 1: entries for the whole summer. So that's fine as well,
Speaker 1: But you're looking like a win of Venetian in Aria,
Speaker 1: like even the smaller ones, the Golden Nuggets, the Orleans, like,
Speaker 1: they all have guarantees. And so you see it across
Speaker 1: the board. You just saw it in Texas, like there's
Speaker 1: it's getting hard to kind of pull the same numbers, right.
Speaker 1: It seems like it seemed like for let's say the
Speaker 1: last year or two, things kind of plateaued, which is
Speaker 1: largely because there's just so much on off. There is
Speaker 1: so much going around now, I would say the plateau
Speaker 1: has kind of started to be a little bit of
Speaker 1: a decline slope. Not a lot, but just a little bit.
Speaker 1: But if you got, like I was looking at the
Speaker 1: wind schedule, they have forty million dollars in guarantees of summer.
Speaker 1: I mean, like what, like, are these places all going
Speaker 1: to hit them? Are they worried?
Speaker 4: Like you know?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I feel like it could
Speaker 1: be bad now. I don't think it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: a bloodbath like per event. Like if you have let's
Speaker 1: say a five hundred K guarantee, I don't think you're
Speaker 1: getting three hundred k. But let's say you get a
Speaker 1: five hundred K guarantee and you get four seventy, so
Speaker 1: now you're thirty k short, and then the next event
Speaker 1: is five k shore, and the next event is you know,
Speaker 1: and these are these like they're like fifty events on
Speaker 1: these schedules, like it's a lot Nick can add up quickly.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm like kind of worried about
Speaker 1: just everything that's going on in the state of the world,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So that's my negative Nancy thought. Obviously, I
Speaker 1: don't want it to happen. I hope it doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: you know. I want poker everywhere to just be through
Speaker 1: the roof. But that's kind of my thought.
Speaker 2: No, I think I agree with you. I think the
Speaker 2: numbers will be down. I think people from overseas will
Speaker 2: be skeptical to come in. Last month, we obviously we
Speaker 2: had some webbly state of the market, which affects things
Speaker 2: as well. We're not sure where that's going to be
Speaker 2: in another month. So look, if I was an international operator,
Speaker 2: like a Pocus Stars in Europe, I would be putting
Speaker 2: on a big festival in Europe because I think it
Speaker 2: would be heavily attended from the European crowd. But here
Speaker 2: in America, I think the World Series will be fine.
Speaker 2: I will bet that their numbers are down, you know,
Speaker 2: on average in each event, but the addition of flights
Speaker 2: in the bigger field events, I think their total entrant
Speaker 2: numbers will eclipse last year. You know something. They'll be
Speaker 2: worried they're the other rooms. I think they're just they
Speaker 2: understand what the World Series is. Everyone's coming into town
Speaker 2: to play events. All the casinos here in Vegas will
Speaker 2: work together and kind of figure their schedules out so
Speaker 2: there's not too much clashing, I think. And they've done
Speaker 2: a pretty decent job. It's not you can't be perfect,
Speaker 2: but they've done decent enough job to do that this year,
Speaker 2: and you're really giving players a full range of events
Speaker 2: they can play. And I think those five and JK
Speaker 2: guarantees that I'll be fine, to be honest. So I
Speaker 2: don't think any of the smaller rooms quote unquote, like
Speaker 2: smaller in the World Series are really that worried about
Speaker 2: about anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I hope, I'm just just worrying for
Speaker 1: the sake of worrying, you know. I would maybe maybe
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks, I'll kind of look
Speaker 1: around a little bit more of the regional stuff that's happening,
Speaker 1: and see if there's like a year over year type
Speaker 1: of thing that I can kind of pinpoint. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we'll see, you know. Now, let me spin
Speaker 1: it back positive and say that the Aria Poker Classic
Speaker 1: specific this thirty five hundred dollars buying BETMGM event is
Speaker 1: just a BETEMGM.
Speaker 2: Event championship championship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, three million dollar guarantee. This event I think can
Speaker 1: blowdoors because Pennsylvania, now that I know that Nevada's not
Speaker 1: involved in the BEDMGM stuff, but they've all like they
Speaker 1: have this. They made that c note tournament, the free note,
Speaker 1: it had a boosted guarantee, and I think they're even
Speaker 1: giving a BETMGM championship package worth five K to the
Speaker 1: winner of that, and like they're starting to put the
Speaker 1: packages and stuff out there. Well, now, if you have
Speaker 1: Michigan and New Jersey linked with Pennsylvania, you can run
Speaker 1: bigger satellites for your marquee event. So I think this
Speaker 1: event specifically could really benefit from the fact that Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: is now involved in the multi state agreement, so they
Speaker 1: can boost their prize schools, their satellite offerings, you know,
Speaker 1: run more of them all that sort of stuff. So
Speaker 1: I think this event, like let's say last year it
Speaker 1: got I don't know, I'm just throwing a number out there.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the number is. Let's say
Speaker 1: it got fifty satellite qualifiers, that could easily be one hundred.
Speaker 1: It could easily be one hundred this year. Now, Like,
Speaker 1: so this event specifically can do really really really well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're spot on right there.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think if I think this event
Speaker 1: can be one of those ones where I know, obviously
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, first and foremost, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play WAIP stuff that's the most value obviously, the
Speaker 1: bracelets all that, I get it. I would say this
Speaker 1: time frame, you know, it takes place right before the
Speaker 1: WSP main event, I would say, you know, probably pencil
Speaker 1: this one into your schedule.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a it's a good one. And
Speaker 1: if you get a lot of online satellite qualifiers, you know,
Speaker 1: that could also provide again a lot of value. So
Speaker 1: I think that that's probably gonna be beneficial, you know,
Speaker 1: through through all of this. So, I mean, we'll see
Speaker 1: overall how it all plays out. But uh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be nuts. Man, It's definitely gonna be nuts.
Speaker 2: Can't wait, can't wait? All right?
Speaker 1: We got nothing else, I don't think, right, mm hmmm
Speaker 1: mm hmm, All right, well, I mean, I guess next
Speaker 1: week we'll bring some up, probably have a little bit
Speaker 1: more clarity on the WS plus app stuff. We can
Speaker 1: talk about that. We can start just kind of previewing
Speaker 1: the summer stuff. It's obviously big, and it's enormous all
Speaker 1: summer long. So I'm looking forward to getting into everything.
Speaker 1: And I know we say it all the time, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be here before we know it. And now
Speaker 1: we're less than a month away, it's certainly gonna be
Speaker 1: here before we know it. So I can't wait, all right.
Speaker 1: For Tim Duckworth, my name is Donny Peters. We will
Speaker 1: talk to you guys next time, so you