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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. I got

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Tim Duckworth along side me today. We are fresh off

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the Texas Poker Open and my man, my cowboy has

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written back from the Lone Star State, a long trek

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through the desert, I'm sure, but he made it. We

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got Ravi Sonny Sondhara Sunny is his nickname, winning the

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Texas Poker Open main event. We're also going to hit

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on a different state other than Texas. We're going to

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talk about the Keystone State, Pennsylvania, because they joined the

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Multi State Internet Gaming Agreement also known as the MSIGA

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for short. Whereas Tim would probably we say, what would

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you say, MESSIGASIGA?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Whoesop Yeah yeah. Speaking of Woesop, the dovisitpy online bracelet

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then we got some other news about the good old

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Woesop with the Woesop Plus app coming to Vegas this summer.

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PokerGO dot com. All right, the Texas Poker Open Main Event,

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Ravi Sndara aka Sonny Sondara wins it all on two

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hundred and eighty three thousand, one hundred and forty three dollars.

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That was after a deal was made three handed. Original

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first place prize was three hundred and seventy five K,

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six hundred and ninety nine entries in this one. Couldn't

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get that extra entry to get us a seven hundred, Hugh,

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You couldn't just fire thirty three hundred, Okay, you basically

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cash for thirty three hundred in some event I did.

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But yeah, let's just put it in there.

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Speaker 2: Come on, let's let's go to the guy at the top.

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Brent Hanks, sitting on the sideline for the entire main event,

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off to finishing fifth loss.

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Speaker 1: YEA six, I thought six?

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Speaker 2: What about either way, brenton one entry?

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Speaker 1: If you if I have final tabled an event which

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is probably never gonna happen in my lifetime because I

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suck at poker. But anyway, if I did, it would

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take so much for me to not play the Turnam

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the next year exactly. I'm not even talking about winning.

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I'm just talking about making the final table. Come on,

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you gotta be in there. You absolutely have to be

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in there, all right. Sonny Sindar won it all two

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hundred and eighty three and forty three dollars. Caleb Harwell

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finished in second place two hundred and sixty four, five

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hundred and twenty nine dollars for him, and then the

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other player as part of the three way deal, Aaron

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gow two hundred and forty seven thousand, three hundred and

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twenty eight dollars. Now, it was. It was a very

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interesting finish to the event, something that was unique. I'm

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not sure I've ever seen it before, but you had

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this three way deal. Then they continue playing for they

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did an ICM chopping, and then they were playing for

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sixty K and then Aaron Gau goes out in third place.

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Then Sonny and Caleb decide to do a best of

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three series of plo flips. What the heck is happening

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down there?

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Speaker 2: Man? It's just what's a mockery, a mockery of the PGT,

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but hey, it's it's very it's very Houston plo flips.

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You know, the gambling, the drinking, the fun, jovial final

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table and atmosphere with some of these players. So look,

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if anywhere's gonna happen, and I'm gonna be slightly okay

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with it, it's down there at Champions Club in Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I watched, I haven't. I haven't watched the full

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final table yet because I was doing commentary for Venetian

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while that final table was going on. But I'm I'm

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dying to get back to it. That said, I am

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aware of some of the big hands that played out

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not only on that final day three, but also on

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day two. I mean, holy hell, I'm coming to Texas

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next year. I mean, I don't know what the hell

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people are doing with some of these can this.

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Speaker 2: Is Texas playfare?

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Speaker 1: Outrageous? It's I mean it's crazy, Like on one half

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you have these people that are like Max gambling right,

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like you had this one what was his was his name, Kim?

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I think it was on day two. I mean he

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played every hand, every hand. I think his name was Kim.

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I could be wrong Ton Kim in every single freaking

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hand imaginable. Even the guy who won, Sonny was all

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over the place, all over the Wow. Yeah. Sonny was

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also drinking from like nine am, like he just showed

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up to champions with a beer in hand and was

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just ready to go the whole time. In his winter photo,

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he's drinking the Blue Moon like the whole time. I'm

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pretty sure by the way that I played a hand

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against Sonny in the twenty twenty three WPT World Championship.

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Interesting in like level five when he tried to he

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tried to run a crazy bluff against me where I

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raised the button with King Jack. I remember this same

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I raised the button with King Jack. We were both

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pretty deep. The big one was sixteen hundred I think

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I had I don't know, one hundred and twenty five

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k or something like that. He three bets me from

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the small blind. I call it comes King high. He bets.

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I call turns a jacks. I make two pair. He

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bets really big. I call rivers a ten. He rips

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it all in. I took about fifteen segs and was like, well,

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I mean, if you got the ace, queen, you got

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ace queen whatever man. He had ace three off.

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Speaker 2: On my way to finishing third out of one hundred

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and twenty players in the three hundred dollars. Nother man

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Hodem Turbo actually busted Robbie he put.

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Speaker 1: It also also a chop tournament.

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Speaker 2: A great chop. He ran a crazy bluff with aces,

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and I had jacks and I hit a jack.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing stuff. When he when he was bluffing with

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the best hand, it's just absolutely wild and these guys.

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, he was awful, all right.

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Speaker 1: So he wins the He won two flips right away, right,

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He won the first two flips and that was it.

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It was over with. So Sonny wins it all, two

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hundred eighty three thousand dollars his he's a he's a

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Houston local. This is his local Room Downer Champions Club.

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So we got a local winning it all. Just rounding

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out the rest of the final table, you ad Jason

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Bulloch in fourth place, Fu Voe in fifth place, Andrew

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Moreno in sixth place, Will Benson seventh, and vietvo in

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eighth And then was it nine hand? Found?

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Speaker 2: Was it was nine handed? We just wanted to finish

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that level before the.

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Speaker 1: Got it one ninth place was justin Liberto. And then

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i'll just round out the top ten. Michael leang in

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tenth place for forty thousand. Elsewhere on the in the

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money finishes, you had Joey Wiseman, who won the Poker

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gro Cup earlier in the twenty twenty five PGT season.

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He finished in twelfth place. Matthew Wantman finished in thirteenth place.

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Both of them took home thirty three thousand dollars. You

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had Daniel Cpo in fifteenth for twenty seven thousand dollars.

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Then a little bit further down you had Philip Hellmuth

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the third, not the regular Philip Healmuth, his son Philip

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Helmuth the third, sixty first place for seven K. Jeff

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Platt shout out to our guy, sixty fourth for six K,

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Jeremy Becker sixty sixth for six K, David Chen seventy

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first for six K, Ray Kartomi seventy second for fifty

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five hundred. I'll hit on those two a little bit more.

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On a second to Jonathan while the reigning be made

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have been champion eighty fifth for and fifty yards.

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Speaker 2: What's this?

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Speaker 1: What's this little note? You put in here, stack guy.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen people have cashed in both Texas pokerpins. I thought

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that was a pretty much bigger number than I thought.

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Speaker 1: But has anyone cast in both of them and the

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poo around it.

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Speaker 2: There there's potential for Isaac Kempton and Matthew Wantman. I

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think I'm gonna check it right now. But even still

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eighteen players, I think is is quite a lot. Even

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with the you know, the whole multi fly aspect of

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the tournament, it's still pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: I think this year it was the Texas Poke Open

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main event, ran it back with the same two million

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dollar guarantee that was in the first edition last year.

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Speaker 2: Isa and Matthew Wantman have cashed in three champions Club

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tournaments that we have run.

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Speaker 1: Oh and bab bo geez okay fuvo. He played outrageous.

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I'm sorry, I don't know what that guy was doing

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the best?

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Speaker 2: How could I not take a chuck against him?

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Speaker 1: He's he was the one who did He was the

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one who slow rolled Sundara on late on day two.

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He was yeah, he he had a full house and

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Sonny this was it, by the way, This was like

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late on day two. Sonny had like seven and a

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half million chips and like a half an hour later

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when they finished up and bagged, he had like two

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and a half minute just out of control. But at

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one point he made a flush against Vos. I think

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he flopped or turned a full house. And on the

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end Sonny called that from Voe and like, turn over

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an ace. I think there was two aces on board

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and I think a ten and he had ace ten.

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He just turned over an ace and Sonny said, I

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beat that and turned over his flush and then he

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slipped over the ten for the full house, and Sunny

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like was pissed and got into it. So that was

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the whole thing at the table tuber slowl do chob slow,

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it was the whole thing. It was all on stream.

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It was pretty pretty incredible, all right, two million dollars

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guarantee in this one beat it not by much, though,

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I can't say this is a fake guarantee. Two million,

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ninety seven thousand dollars in the prize pool. You were there,

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you're the PGT commissioner. You're obviously in touch with everyone

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that we worked with at Champions Club Texas. What was

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the sweat of the guarantee? Like and were you actually sweating, sir.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were sweating quite a lot. It was Look,

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we knew it was going to be. I think we've

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discussed this before. When you have a new series, you

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come back for the second year, it always tends to

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be a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Of a second year is always the hardest year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we knew that. So that was we're going

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against that. And then as we spoke to how play is,

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you know, we talked about in the last part, not

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a lot of these guys were coming and that was

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a little scary. But to Champions credit, they did. They

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got us over the line. And what I mean by

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that is we had a huge increase in unique players,

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mainly locals. We had three x more satellite winners than

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last year, so that on its own made up for

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the the PGT REGs that would have been there blasting

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like last year, Sean Dee Brand, Lynn Josh Aria, Jesse,

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Lonas Chinaim, all these guys that put in lots of

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bullets that weren't there. Champions made up for it with

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a huge satellite program, lots of locals. I think locals

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just wanting to be a part of this. This year,

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we went from two hundred and thirty six unique entrance

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to two hundred and seventy five, which is a massive

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increase with the field also being thirty six players short

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this year. So look, we were sweating it the entire way,

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and you know, we were trending pretty good at the start.

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Once we hit those bigger flights on the Saturday and

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then the Saturday night turbo, we were a bit behind pace.

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But yeah, we broke through probably midway through registration on

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the final turbo flight, and it was a good, good

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sigh of relief for you know, the entire team down there,

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just getting through the guarantee and then obviously pushing through

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for another you know, ninety seven. K.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I don't know why a lot of

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the PGT regulars didn't go. I mean I would have

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assumed that many of them that traveled down to Texas

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for the first time likely last year for this and

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saw the state of play. I mean, I mean, listen,

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I can't I have to just talk about it. I mean,

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it's it's the play is outrageous. I mean it's absolutely outrageous.

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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time talking with.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we need to just cut like a highlight

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clip of these hands that were played out on stream

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and just like send them to people. Yeah, just be like,

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this is why you need to go to Texas.

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Speaker 2: In the third high Roller, Jeremy Becker says to me,

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this is the softest event I've ever played. Five K

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hi roller with thirty nine entrants.

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Speaker 1: Was that the one where he called with seven four

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off yes.

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Speaker 2: Which was a very weird hand? I wrote, I got

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that hand, and I had to make sure I wrote

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those cards down right.

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Speaker 1: Well, we were wondering if the like, We're like, are

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his chips wrong?

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Speaker 2: Like did he like I know?

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, like these guys are good, like

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I don't like, I don't I trusts.

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Speaker 2: The blinds were going up next hand, he would have

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been in the small blind, so that has something to

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do with it. I just feel like seven to four,

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you know, it's not the one to get in with.

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But hey, look, Jeremy is a field player. He's not

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a gto guy. You know, let him do what he

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wants to do. But speaking with him, we talked about

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this and he know, he says, the poker is great here.

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But the biggest problem we have and why some of

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these guys in the com was if you bust like,

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there's not much else to do. You know, Champions is

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a hotel with the pokeroom. Now says if you don't

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want to play poker, sorry, there's not much you can do.

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And Jeremy's like, just give me a ping punk table,

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give me something.

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Speaker 1: I was you know what I was thinking when when,

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because you and I were talking a little bit obviously

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about this stuff. I was like, they need to put

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a bowling alley there. All these guys in their bowling. Now,

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put like a three or four lane bowling alley right there.

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You put like you said, you put a ping pong

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table room.

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Speaker 2: Come up with the table room.

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Speaker 3: Boom.

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Speaker 2: I've got the idea. It's the winner. Are you ready

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for this. We're gonna we're gonna convert one of the

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one of the sweets right Presidential Suite to feel Home

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with Sweet as they like to call it, into the

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PGT Lounge. Okay, I'm gonna moove the tables around. We're

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gonna put a ping pong table there, gonna get some

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arcade games, snacks, deck of cards that can play Chinese poker.

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Because Jeremy's like, we just want to DJ and we

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want to gamble. We want to bet on ping pong,

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we want to bet on arcade games. I told him

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this idea. He goes because he was like, I don't

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think you're getting me back here, you know, and he

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was having an okay series. He cashed the high Roller,

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he cashed the main event. Now twice. He's like, I

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don't think he getting me back here. There's not enough

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for me to do. And then I told him this idea.

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He's like, all right, you got me back. So giving

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these guys, the PGT players, an outlet when they I

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don't want to play poker, you know, they can go upstairs.

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We'll set up this lounge. We'll stock it with drinks

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and snacks and all kinds of things that they can

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degen and gamble and keep them on property, keep them,

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you know, firing the high roller is firing the main event.

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I think that's one way to really get them there.

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The other part is, you know, it's going to be

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their fault because we had players messaging us the day

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before the main event saying, hey, could you help us

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get a rum I heard they're sold out. I mean,

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when you're going to leave it to the last day,

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that's a bit of an issue for as a poker player.

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You know, we know they're not that organized, but when

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you know this is a boutique property, you have to

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try and get your your accommodations settled earlier and kind

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of get in there, get the booking, come down play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think another thing that we can probably

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do on our side a little bit better ahead of time.

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I mean, you mentioned going from twenty five to seventy

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five satellite winners. We got to push that ahead of

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time more. Yeah, however we do it. You know, you know,

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ideally you can kind of put like a photo of

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all the satellite winners out there, stuff like that, you know,

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because that will attract a lot of the the bigger

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players or whatnot. So but I listen, I think that

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the state of play sells it. And if you're chasing value,

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I think it's great to head down to Texas and

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to Champions Club and to this event. It's you know,

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there's not that many big events like this iron wise

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in that region. I also think, listen it. The time

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slot is really good because right after it's done, a

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lot of the guys can just you know, check up

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a little bit to Choktaw in Oklahoma and play that

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World Poker Tour event, so like it times up nicely.

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It's not just kind of like you're going there for

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like one thing. Yeah, you go down to Houston, you

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play this event at Champions Boom, you're up to Choctaw,

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you're playing that WPT there. Then you come back a

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few weeks off. It's World Series of Poker time. That's

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how you do it.

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Speaker 2: I think on allen to, we should try and give

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a little more breathing room between the USPR and Champion Club.

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Give these guys a you know, a week or two

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just to reset, relaxed, spend time family, then come over

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to Houston. The fact that we were going from USPO

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literally less than a week later the main event was starting,

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I think that was too tired of a window. So

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if we can just move USPO back a week or

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two weeks even, I think that will come go a

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long way in you know, like we always talk about

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player burnout and bankroll rebuilding or resetting mental resetting, that

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will go a long way and helping that.

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Speaker 1: The guarantee was a sweat. We talked about it, but

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it was met at the end of the day. It

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seemed like overall there was a lot of really really

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good energy out of Champions Club. Once again, how proud

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are you, guys? How proud are you? You know how

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the main event turned out? Overall? Are you happy with everything?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think both us and Champions are

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pretty happy. Like I said, I kind of mentioned the

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huge increasing in uniques, the huge increase in locals, the

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satellite winners. That's all says a lot about how much

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effort Champions is putting into this. Also how much the

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local poker pool really supports Champions, really supports what we're

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doing there. So from that aspect, it couldn't be more

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happier than you know, how it turned out once we

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hit that guarantee.

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Speaker 1: Now, in addition to the thirty three hundred dollars by

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main event that was won by again Sonny Sundhara two

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hundred and eighty three thousand dollars, there were four fifty

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one hundred dollars high roller events, all of them qualifying

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for the PGT. You had Ray Kartomi winning two of

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the four, you had David Chen winning one of the four,

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and then the other one was won by Elliott Smith.

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I told you that I would mention Chen and Kartomi

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later on. Here is that time. Both Kartomi and Chen

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cashed four times during the series. They both cashed in

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the main event as I already mentioned, then both of

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them cashed in three of the four high rollers, with

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Ray Kartomi winning two of the four. Kartoli won the

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first one for five hundred all, David Chen won the

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second one for fifty four thousand dollars, Elliott Smith won

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the third one fifty eight, six hundred and eighty dollars,

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and then Kartomi again winning the last one forty one thousand,

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seven hundred dollars for him. Kartomi cashed total from the

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series just under one hundred and seven thousand dollars. Chen

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cash total for the series eighty five thousand, seven hundred

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and fifty dollars. Now little bit of a different look

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to the schedule with these high rollers. This year's Texas

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Poke gre Open schedule had fewer high rollers. They were

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also all at the five K buy and level, whereas

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last year you had eight of them, so cut them

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in half. Also last year there was a couple ten k's.

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There was also a couple that were pot limit Omaha

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as opposed to just the Nolan HoldEm So last year

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they did a little bit of Nolan hould them a

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little bit of PLO. How do you feel the adjustments

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worked out with with you know, the high roller stuff.

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Speaker 2: The main difference with last year in this year was

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that last year the high roll was extended on the

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main event, and we saw kind of a bit of

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a decrease in numbers once the main event was done,

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So we wanted to basically overlap them during the main

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so that our players that were coming could come and

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book you know, four or five days and get full

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value and not have to stick around for no other reason.

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So that's kind of why we shifted from seven well

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it was seven that we added an extra one last year,

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but from eight down to these four, just to fit

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the schedule a little better, be a bit cleaner. Also,

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with the ten k's they didn't perform as well, so

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we kind of kept with the five K prize point,

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which just hits the locals a bit more like it's

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a bit more reachable for those guys, So that was

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kind of the change. I think it worked okay. Some

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of the guys really like the twenty minute level blinds,

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the entire way like super Turbos basically. So yeah, at

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this stage, I think we wouldn't really make any changes

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to that. You could maybe at a plow, but you know,

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we're doing that PLO series hopefully in November, so they

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have enough PLO at that point.

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Speaker 1: So is it coming back next year? And if it is,

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what's the schedule going to look like? Is this is

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this like the best schedule or do you still have

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like fine tune adjustments that you want to make. What

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are you thinking?

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Speaker 2: I like this schedule a lot. I hope it comes back.

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I think it's a good event. I like the event.

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I think the local players like the event, So I

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don't see there's a reason why we would just stop schedule.

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I think it is fine. I think the side events

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schedule could you know, use a bit of a twigging.

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For example, they had the Ladies' event on day two

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of the main you know, it makes a little tough

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if you know, for some of the ladies, they make

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day two obviously to play that event, so we could

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obviously flex off that. But yeah, the side events is

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mainly Champions Club's decision, and I kind of work with

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them about figuring out what may work, what may not work.

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But yeah, I like the schedule. I thought there was

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a good variety of events. Huge you know, keep the

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satellites going, keep everyone on property firing away. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I My one suggestion would be, I think you need

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like a one K like opener, like the weekend before

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the main event.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if you're getting anyone out of

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town coming in for that. That's the only thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I don't know. I have to think

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about it more, but that's I think that would be

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a good position. But overall, you know, I thought it

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was a good event. I had fun watching the large

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majority of it, and I still have to kind of

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finish out the final table stuff because I had other obligations.

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But other than that, you know, I'm happy it reached

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the guarantee happy the I like when guarantees are a

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sweat because I believe that they're then a little bit

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more real, you know, as I always joke about fake guarantees,

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but this one definitely made you guys sweat quite a bit.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 1: But I do think also if you were to run

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it back the same for next year, probably a little

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bit more in the prize pool would be my guess

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as things sit right now, coupled with the fact that,

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you know, a lot of people in the US probably

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don't have a lot of disposable income. So just with

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the way everything is, you know, you got to pay

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for them eggs. But a year's time away, you know,

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maybe that's all changed and become a little bit better

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and things are. You know, there's a little bit more

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people that want to you know, travel down the travel

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part as well, Like it's I mean, it's just hard,

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like you know, it takes a lot to go down there,

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just anywhere really not it's not only just traveling to Texas.

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You know, there's you know, you really do have to

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rely on the local regional crowd, of course, and I

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think this event did so. I think that's a really

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good sign. And then yeah, hopefully we get the regulars

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to head back down to a good old Texas. Let's

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swing up. But I think it's like what sixteen hundred

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miles northeast to Pennsylvania in the Keystone State got the

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We got Pennsylvania joining the Multi State Internet Gaming Agreement.

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Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro recently signed the MMSIGA to bring

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Pennsylvania into the shared online poker market, which is great, great,

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00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:28,000
great news. That agreement. The MSIGA or MESSIGA includes obviously Pennsylvania,

475
00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:32,359
now New Jersey, Nevada, Delaware, West Virginia, and Michigan. Now

476
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,240
put a little asterisk next to West Virginia because although

477
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,160
online poker is legalized in the state, no one has

478
00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:44,200
launched yet. That's the same for other states Connecticut, Delaware,

479
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,279
and Rhode Island, although those three aren't signed into the

480
00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:54,880
MSIGA as of this time. Pennsylvania originally now are announced

481
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,920
originally legalized online poker in twenty seventeen. It became the

482
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,839
fourth state to do so, and then they launched. The

483
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,799
first operator to launch was Poker Stars in twenty nineteen.

484
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,000
So I guess that timeline there is something that like

485
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,359
I look at because it took, you know, two years

486
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,400
to go from when you legalize it to when you

487
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,640
got the first operator launching, and then here you got

488
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,960
the governor, Governor Shapiro signing this agreement and then it

489
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,720
was like three days boom on Monday, which was yesterday,

490
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,279
April twenty eighth, that a couple of the operators are

491
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,359
ready to go. They're in multiple states were often running,

492
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,960
so the fact that it turned around so quick, I

493
00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:43,160
think is like probably the biggest thing to me at least,

494
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,119
which hopefully is a sign of more things to come. Now,

495
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,759
we also had a great opportunity here at Poker Go,

496
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,759
you know, the Governor's team, Governor Josh Shapiro, his team

497
00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:58,720
reached out to us. We were able to link up

498
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:02,920
on a special interview and it was really cool. Again,

499
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,400
big big news for online poker in the US with

500
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,559
this happening. You know, I know it's like a lot

501
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:10,799
of places might be like, yeah, well you have fifty states,

502
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,960
you know, there's not that many on board. But I mean,

503
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,039
trust me, this is this is a big move in

504
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,359
the right direction. So you know, Pennsylvania getting involved, it

505
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,839
creates much bigger prize pools. You know, the games are

506
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,400
going to be better. Those players are all now part

507
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,880
of a much bigger player pool. You already have some

508
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,359
of the operators you know, doing stuff in terms of

509
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,799
bigger prize pools, the stuff in the summer as it

510
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,440
relates to the World Series of Poker. Because they are involved,

511
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,319
they are in the different states, you know, there's gonna

512
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,519
be a ton more action. I know we're gonna hit

513
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,119
on the online bracelet schedule. But you know, the online

514
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,720
bracelet schedule, of course, does give credence to the fact

515
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:50,400
that Pennsylvania is now roped in with the other states.

516
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,920
So and myself as a player in Nevada, I mean,

517
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,559
it's it's hugely beneficial to me being able to have

518
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,519
more games, to play, bigger and better tournaments, all that

519
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:04,799
sort of stuff. So I thought that that was really cool.

520
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,440
But President Governor Josh Shapiro, he actually got to chat

521
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,880
with our president poker Go President Maury Eskandnnie and that

522
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,200
was an exclusive interview that these guys linked up on.

523
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,279
So it was a video interview that the two hopped

524
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:21,119
on a zoom call and chatted. You can find that

525
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,960
on the poker Go YouTube channel. But we'll play the

526
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,599
audio for you guys here right now, so if you

527
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,960
haven't heard it here that is, let's get to it.

528
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:30,599
Speaker 4: Governor, what an honor? How are you?

529
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm so good? How are you?

530
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,039
Speaker 4: I'm doing just fine, doing a lot better now that

531
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,960
I know an official like you is advocating for poker.

532
00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:42,680
This is this is truly amazing.

533
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: It's a dream come through, sir. Absolutely, no, I it's

534
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,359
a big deal. I'm excited about it, happy to talk

535
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,000
to you today.

536
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: Well, pleasure is all mine, and I mean the fact

537
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:58,160
that you are the highest ranking official that I know

538
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:03,960
all my years in poker that supporting us. It's so grateful.

539
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,559
And what made this the right time for Pennsylvania to

540
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,400
join the multi state and the gaming.

541
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:15,519
Speaker 3: Well, well, first off, more it's really cool for me

542
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,960
to be with you. I love your background. By the way,

543
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,400
it looks great. I'll just say what made me want

544
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,319
to do it is. I think it's common sense. There's

545
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,079
a bunch of folks like you out there, including one

546
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,680
hundred and fifty thousand people right here in my state,

547
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480
in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, who love to play poker online,

548
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:36,839
and I think they should be able to play poker online,

549
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,920
not just with people from Pennsylvania, but they should be

550
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,160
able to reach out and deal with people from other states,

551
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,799
not have to wait as long for a game, and

552
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:49,759
have games that are more vibrant, more competitive, and where

553
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:52,039
they you know, they get to compete against more people

554
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,799
kind of at their level. So I just think it's

555
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,720
common sense, it's smart, and I know you probably don't

556
00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:00,680
care about this, but it's good for the Commonwealth taxpayers

557
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,039
as well, So I think it's a win win all around.

558
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: Well, I care more than you can possitively imagine. I've

559
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,880
often wonder a game that's been around for some thousand

560
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,319
a year and came to United States in the eighteen hundred,

561
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,759
just like everything else that comes here was raised to

562
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:20,039
new heights, so many different variety of games that were

563
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:25,000
added here, all the creativity, everything being played in seventy countries.

564
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not legal in birthplace of Texas, legal in

565
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,440
eight states or so, but it's not just you know, like,

566
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,839
what is it going to take wherever we want to

567
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,400
take your lead?

568
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: Look, I'm a big believer in giving people the freedom

569
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,240
to do the kinds of things they want to do,

570
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,839
obviously within the bounds of the law and obviously within

571
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,160
the bounds of responsibility. But the way I look at

572
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,680
this is, you know, folks are playing poker all the time,

573
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,039
and whether you're doing it at a table or whether

574
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,160
you're doing it at a casino, you're doing it with

575
00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:00,680
some buddies, or you're doing it online. I just think

576
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,920
you should have the freedom to do that. And by

577
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,319
the way, if you don't want to play poker, if

578
00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:05,799
you don't want to gamble, You don't have to do

579
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720
that either. It's totally fine. No one's forcing you. So

580
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,359
I am hopeful that as Pennsylvania, we're now the biggest

581
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,759
state as part of this compact, Pennsylvania does it, maybe

582
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,000
more states will join in, more Americans will get the

583
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:22,960
opportunity to participate with one another in this great game that,

584
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,119
as you said, has been around thousands of years. I

585
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,480
think it's a great opportunity.

586
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: Do you really feel like you're getting closer to having

587
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:37,200
this be connected nationally, like having a market that's like

588
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,680
in like sports betting in forty.

589
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: I hope so, I hope so. And again not because

590
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,519
I'm trying to encourage people to go out and gamble

591
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:48,720
or play poker or do something else.

592
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,359
Speaker 2: It's up to you.

593
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:51,519
Speaker 3: But if you want to do that, I think it's

594
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,599
important to make it easy, right, have it on your

595
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,640
phone or have it in your home, you know, however

596
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,839
you want to do it, or show up at a casinover,

597
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,960
show up and in some other way to do it.

598
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:03,119
I think it's common sense.

599
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: You know what.

600
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,839
Speaker 3: What I've learned over my years in this business is

601
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,160
a lot of times folks are just knee jerk reacting

602
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,359
against something, right, there's against it. And if you actually

603
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,440
get a minute to have a conversation and say, hey,

604
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,000
you know, Pennsylvania's doing it, Michigan's doing it, Jersey, other

605
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,920
states are doing it. Maybe explain to me why you

606
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,240
think it's a bad idea. Why aren't you doing it?

607
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,519
And so when you get rid of that sort of

608
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:33,079
immediate political no and you're able to bolster your argument

609
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:34,599
by saying a lot of other states are doing it,

610
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,799
and ask people what they're real deep objection to to

611
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480
it is. You know what most time they say is well,

612
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:43,559
I don't know. I guess it's kind of always been

613
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,000
that way. And for me, I hate when people say, well,

614
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,200
that's the way it's always been and that's the way

615
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,680
it's going to be. That frustrates me to no end.

616
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: I've had people come to me know poka gambling as

617
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,960
a matter of fact, just you know, I've been in

618
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,359
the industry forever. Poker players don't like to be called gamblers.

619
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,200
They like to be called poker players because he gambled,

620
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640
He gambled anything gamble at golf. It's not a game,

621
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,720
you know, like God knows. I mean, when you live

622
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:13,079
in Las Vegas. You gamble with everything but his choice.

623
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:15,039
You know you're having fun, you know you're doing something

624
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:18,359
that he can afford. And poker, there's just so much

625
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,839
to the game. So, h let me ask you a

626
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,440
fun question. It sounds to me that you've been into

627
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:26,839
this a little bit. Which state do you think from

628
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,960
the eight states that have now online gaming, which one

629
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,759
do you think has the best poker players?

630
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, man, you know what the answer is. Pennsylvania.

631
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,799
Of course. Look, I am competitive as hell, right, So

632
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,160
I want to beat everybody at everything and whatever sport,

633
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:48,119
whatever game, whatever you're doing. And I think Pennsylvanians have

634
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,279
that attitude. We want to be the best. With the

635
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:53,599
birthplace in democracy, we're where it all started, and so

636
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,000
of course we want to win it everything from our

637
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,440
Super Bowl winning Eagles to you know, every other team.

638
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,400
We just want to be the best. And I know

639
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,880
Pennsylvania poker players want to be the best, and I

640
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,440
think we are.

641
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:08,119
Speaker 4: Well. One of these days, I'm hoping maybe perhaps some

642
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,119
sort of a tournament in our studio in poker got

643
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:15,119
studio in Las Vegas and have different players from the

644
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,640
states come in, maybe the governors, maybe maybe a game

645
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:17,960
at all.

646
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: These That would be cool.

647
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:23,079
Speaker 4: We should do that, all right, I got I will

648
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:25,079
send an invitation to everybody. I would love to do

649
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,000
that and see which governor is the best player.

650
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,079
Speaker 3: That would be a lot of fun. We'll probably all

651
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,400
talk a lot of shit on one another, even though

652
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,400
we all really like each other, but we'll have a

653
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,440
lot of fun. Exactly exactly. That'd be great.

654
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 4: Well, this is truly an honor, and I meant it.

655
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:48,200
It is dream come true. We are in this industry. Nothing,

656
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:51,799
nothing will will be lifting this industry more than in

657
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,079
national poker across the team.

658
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:58,279
Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited to help one hundred and fifty thousand

659
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,319
Pennsylvanians and hopefully I'm world grow, compete with others from

660
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:05,160
across the country and see this industry grow. Mare. I

661
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,319
want you to know you're here in the Governor's reception

662
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,840
room here in our state capitol in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Through

663
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,079
that door over there is my office, and I just

664
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,639
signed the Multi State Compact before walking out here to

665
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,960
talk to you. It goes into effect Monday, so poker

666
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,199
players will have the opportunity to compete online across state lines.

667
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,559
And we're really excited about it.

668
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely wonderful news, wonderful, Thank you so much.

669
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: Great, thank you, Mary. Look forward to seeing you and

670
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,679
we got to have that game with the other GUVs.

671
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,159
Speaker 4: It'll happen, thank you.

672
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,039
Speaker 2: All right.

673
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:42,039
Speaker 1: So that was really cool. Listen. I don't know, I

674
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:46,199
didn't know anything about Joshapiro, Okay, the fact that he

675
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,599
was talking so casually, the fact that he swore in

676
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,840
the interview, I'm a gready to vote for this guy

677
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,360
for anything. I mean, I'm ready to go. I'm like, okay,

678
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,679
let's go. Can we play some poker? Like, you know,

679
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,800
like it's definitely he seems a guy that I would

680
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,599
get behind. And again, you know, just very cool overall that,

681
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,960
you know, he pushed this through. I remember hearing I

682
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,760
can't remember when it exactly was, whether it was several

683
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,760
months ago or you know, a year or two ago,

684
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,960
when he urged the Gaming Commission there in Pennsylvania to

685
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:20,960
start approaching getting involved with the multi state agreement and

686
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,920
then boom, he signs it. A couple of days later,

687
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,599
Monday happens. You know, these these operators are in. I mean,

688
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:33,079
that's just incredible. So the I mentioned all the states, Pennsylvania,

689
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,840
New Jersey, Nevada, Delaware, West Virginia, and Michigan. So of

690
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:39,800
the ones that are like linked right now with operators,

691
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:43,280
Pennsylvania is the largest. Thirteen point one million is the

692
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,519
estimated population, fifth largest state in the US. So that's

693
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:50,159
a big one. Yeah, that's a very big one. Michigan

694
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,960
tenth ten point two million, New Jersey, you know, not

695
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:55,159
too far off, nine point six million, that's the tenth

696
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:58,880
and eleventh largest states. And then Nevada. You know, again,

697
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,719
this is why it lately benefits people like Tim and

698
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,519
I who play on dissip dot com because Nevada is

699
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,360
only three point three million and we're the thirty first

700
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,719
largest state by population. So US getting a state like

701
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,199
Pennsylvania that is what more than four x hour population

702
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,079
into this, like boom, let's go, Like I'm ready, Like

703
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:23,000
I'm ready for the games. I'm ready for the tournaments,

704
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,039
like I can't wait a little bit of a rundown

705
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:29,639
on the timeline here on yesterday. We're recording this on Tuesday,

706
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,159
April twenty ninth. But on Monday, April twenty eighth, you

707
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,519
had bet MGMPA and Borgata PA. They connected their player

708
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:41,840
pools in Pennsylvania with New Jersey and Michigan. Now those

709
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:47,440
operators are not currently in Nevada, but we've heard that,

710
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,960
you know, BETMGM could be coming to Nevada pretty soon,

711
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:55,280
you know, hopefully soon, but we'll see, you know, I

712
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:58,519
if I were to guess, I would guess by the

713
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,599
end of the year. Obviously MGM has a footprint here

714
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,039
in the state of Nevada, you know, but that's still

715
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,760
you know, TBD and those operators celebrated with they have

716
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,440
this one hundred and nine dollars buying c note tournament.

717
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,800
They made that a free roll and they're calling it

718
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,920
the Free Note. They also announced what they're calling the

719
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,920
May Millions May eighth through eleventh, with eighteen events. I

720
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,800
think that spans a weekend, eighteen events, million dollar guaranteed

721
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,079
across the entire series, one thousand dollars buying championship event

722
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:32,679
that has a four hundred thousand dollars guaranteed. So already,

723
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,360
like you have these operators coming out with some big stuff.

724
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,960
You have WSP in Pennsylvania. They connected with Nevada, New

725
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:45,679
Jersey and Michigan and they were the first operator with

726
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,199
a four state network. Again, Bet MGM, Burgada they're in

727
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,599
three states, but WSP is in four states, which is

728
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,719
very cool, very very cool. Now poker Stars, everyone knows

729
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,639
Poker Stars. They have not yet can their Pennsylvania platform

730
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,280
with New Jersey and Michigan, so that's still TBD, and we'll,

731
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,679
I guess, we'll see what happens. I did see something

732
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,800
from I want to say it was a new g

733
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,440
aurora from Pokerfeus on social media earlier today that said,

734
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,079
I think you put a screenshot of the lobby of

735
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:23,960
Poker Stars and it didn't have any tournaments scheduled like

736
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:26,320
past April thirtieth, So like, I don't know if that's

737
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,880
like like what's coming type of thing, or like maybe

738
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,119
they just haven't scheduled that, who knows, you know, but

739
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,920
I would expect at some point they probably get involved,

740
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:40,239
right will be like BETAMGM where they won't be in Nevada,

741
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,400
but I think they'll they'll, you know, they'll they'll get

742
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,599
into the other ones and that'll obviously create that and

743
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:49,679
then just quickly on the other operators or on the

744
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,440
operators as a whole. Just as a little bit of

745
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,119
a summary here, wsp PA is combined with Nevada New

746
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,239
Jersey and Michigan, so they're in four states. BETAMGM Pennsylvania

747
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,880
is combined with New Jersey and Michigan. Poker Stars Pennsylvania

748
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,039
is still separate. New Jersey and Michigan are combined, but

749
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,320
we'll see how that goes. And then the other one

750
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,480
is Bette Rivers, which is you know, speaking of the

751
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:14,119
Texas Poke Ropean and Phil Hellmuth and you know, he's

752
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:16,599
he was on stream saying I'm a co owner of

753
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,639
the Champions Club and this and that and the other thing.

754
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: Whatever.

755
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, his new sponsor, Bette Rivers. They are in only Pennsylvania,

756
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:26,400
but they did send it out a release that said

757
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,840
they are preparing for a multi state launch, so that's

758
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,760
likely coming at some point. I don't think there was

759
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,440
a timeline given for that, but but yeah, but that's

760
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:38,480
kind of the rundown there. Thoughts, sir, thoughts, you.

761
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: Got me, not really because I don't really understand your

762
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,679
legal world here in America. But it is a good thing.

763
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,320
It is a good thing for poker that we are

764
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,960
getting more and more states involved, and it's great for

765
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:57,559
obviously the players that are on WSP. You know, whenever

766
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,840
Poker Stars joins in, you bet MGM as well. It's

767
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,480
a good thing for the industry hopefully. You know, as

768
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:06,800
you kind of touched on some of these states that

769
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:09,960
kind of in limbo, if they can join in too,

770
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:12,599
you know, it's gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger,

771
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:14,480
and you know, maybe we're going to get back those

772
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,360
good old days of pre Black Friday.

773
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Well I don't know if that's gonna happen, but let's

774
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,320
just hope the good days.

775
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,039
Speaker 2: I was okay at poker back then.

776
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you never know. I mean, listen, I think

777
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,119
it's it's obviously big news. It benefits us pretty greatly

778
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:34,760
here in Nevada with WSIP linking up right away with

779
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,760
those other states, you know, so that'll be good. You

780
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,880
know WSIP was previously linked with New Jersey and Michigan.

781
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,599
It was New Jersey, Michigan and Nevada. So you know,

782
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,079
once that happened, you definitely saw a boost at least

783
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:50,400
I think so playing online and now with Pennsylvania and Wales,

784
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,280
I think that'll be really really really good. All right,

785
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,440
let's take a quick pause here because as we have

786
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:02,239
been doing, we have of our giveaway running for the

787
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,679
Poker Girl Podcast Dream Seats, and we gotta do some

788
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:11,440
code words. You're the code word, guy, what do.

789
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: You what do you card word? I'm not gonna say

790
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,039
what last week's card word.

791
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Was, because you know you have they gotta go find it.

792
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna go find out on this one. We're

793
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:20,920
gonna keep it Texas themed. It's gonna be very simple.

794
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,840
It's Texas. I don't even knowed to spell it for

795
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,519
you guys, because you can spell that show like a

796
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:32,159
Texas poker play. Because I like Texas.

797
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: He's not changing it now, but I'm just telling I'm.

798
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: Gonna say I like easy, simple ones like we don't

799
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,159
make it too complicated. So Texas is the code word.

800
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:41,800
You guys know where to go. Link is in the

801
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,280
description of the pod. Thanks for producer Rich and we

802
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,400
want one of you guys representing us in the PGT

803
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,440
Million Dollar Championship and winning it. Obviously, let's go.

804
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,559
Speaker 1: All right. So, speaking of w SP's involvement with the

805
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:04,719
Pennsylvan stuff, they then ws pdawsp dot com announced their

806
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,480
online bracelet schedule thirty online gold bracelet events this year,

807
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,599
which is actually, if you can believe it, sir, fewer

808
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,800
online bracelets than last year. Can you believe they actually

809
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,239
had less in a bracelet schedule?

810
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,159
Speaker 2: They could add more, let's not, let's not get out

811
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:27,519
home add more.

812
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,519
Speaker 1: And the reason why it's less is because last year

813
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,960
they had thirty as well, but they also had seven

814
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,159
for Pennsylvania loss.

815
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 4: Ye.

816
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now everything's combined and they only have the thirty. Okay,

817
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,800
Now it's pretty robust. There's more guaranteed prize money in

818
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,519
the series. I believe this year it's five point five

819
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:51,079
million versus last year. I think it was three or

820
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,360
three and a half million. I'm guaranteed. Not every event

821
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,559
is guaranteed, but there are a lot of a lot

822
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:59,880
of guarantees. The online Bracelet events they span May thirty

823
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:03,360
first through July fifteenth. The full World Series of Poker

824
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:08,639
is May twenty seventh, I believe through July sixteenth, So

825
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:11,440
you know, a couple of days cut off on each side,

826
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,480
but that's fine. They are running it back with five

827
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:19,400
live final tables. Those five live final tables, so you'll

828
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,519
start playing online, you'll reach the live you'll reach the

829
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:25,559
final table, they'll pause the tournament. Those people will come

830
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,440
out to Las Vegas and they will play at the

831
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,599
horseshoe for the bracelet. Those are the thirty two hundred

832
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,320
dollars Nolan Hold Them high Roller, the fifty three hundred

833
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,480
dollars Nolanman Hold Them high Roller six Max, A twenty

834
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,719
five hundred dollars Nolaman Hold Them Event, fifty three hundred

835
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,360
dollars Nolaman Hold Them high Roller Championship, the thirty two

836
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,480
hundred dollars high Roller six Max. Now I don't really

837
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:51,440
understand the fourth one that I mentioned, the fifty three

838
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,840
hundred dollars Nolan Hold Them high Roller Championship. Shouldn't the

839
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,039
championship event be bigger than everything else?

840
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think last year was a ten game, right.

841
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,960
Maybe it's just a better structure.

842
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just saying, like, you have another fifty three

843
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,880
hundred high roller like I would think.

844
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: You would have, Yeah, you would, Yeah, differentiate it.

845
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: Best buy ins across the entire thirty online gold brased

846
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,599
events started two hundred and fifty dollars, which I think

847
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,280
last year was three thirty three. I think was the

848
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,880
lowest one, so a little bit smaller on that end,

849
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,159
but not you know, not that much different. And then

850
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,280
of course up to the fifty three hundred dollars and

851
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,440
then they are you know, this does include the shared

852
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,559
liquidity across Nevada, New Jersey, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. So I

853
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:37,239
would expect these to be quite big.

854
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 4: You know.

855
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I think in recent years you and I have both

856
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:42,960
done you know, our article where we mentioned all the

857
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,119
different winners, and sometimes it's like, you know, this guy

858
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,119
won twenty k, and you know, so you're not going

859
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:50,440
to get any more of that. You know, these are

860
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,519
going to be some pretty pretty juicy prize pools, some

861
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:56,519
pretty big first place prizes, so you know it'll be

862
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,079
pretty good over.

863
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: I think I very confident this is new. But it

864
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,800
looks like they have a couple of multi day.

865
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,079
Speaker 1: No they did that before, Yeah, but but they are.

866
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:11,480
They are bringing that that stuff back.

867
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,079
Speaker 2: I know they've done on GG, I just didn't know

868
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,920
they've done it on Yeah. I think one of them

869
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,000
is a Colossus, Yeah, ones a Mystery Yeah, they.

870
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,639
Speaker 1: Have a bunch of Mystery Boundary. I think all the

871
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,119
Mystery Bounty events, if I remember correct when I was

872
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:24,960
looking at the schedule earlier, I think all the Mystery

873
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,880
bound events are the ones with the guarantees on them.

874
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,559
Speaker 2: They have that million million million.

875
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: Mystery boundies are you know, that's what everyone loves to play,

876
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,320
so of course they're gonna have plenty of those.

877
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 4: You know.

878
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many I'll play this summer, you know,

879
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:41,400
just because obviously we have a lot of work and whatever.

880
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,159
But something I would like to play is they have

881
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,079
two twenty five scrambles, So those are on there. So

882
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,480
those are nice and juicy to try and win yourself

883
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,760
a w S a P main events.

884
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: So those also have guarantees. Yeah yeah, well yeah, yeah,

885
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,800
of course you said the other things with guarantees of them.

886
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:07,679
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I got you. So there's that. That's

887
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,159
the the I guess part A of the w c

888
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,079
P news that that recently dropped, and then part B

889
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,960
is that the Wasit plus app is coming to Vegas.

890
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:23,000
You know, I think we kind of thought it might,

891
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:25,559
but then we heard it might not, you know, just

892
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:29,800
some regulation stuff here in Vegas with with the casinos

893
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,400
here and whatever. But they got it done, so the

894
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:33,920
app is coming to Las Vegas.

895
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,119
Speaker 3: Now.

896
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: I do want to mention that a lot of the

897
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,480
information that I gathered around the Wasity plus app stuff

898
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,159
I got from the good team over at Pokerfuse pokerfuse

899
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:46,679
dot com. They do a bunch of great work. Nick Jones,

900
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,599
you know, does incredible work.

901
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: I know.

902
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: Nick Jones also had a great thread on Twitter poker

903
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,159
pro Jones is his handle, just talking about all the

904
00:46:55,199 --> 00:46:58,519
different Pennsylvania stuff that's happening a news Aurora. As I

905
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:00,599
already mentioned, there's a lot of good stuff over there

906
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:02,239
as well. So to shout out to those guys for

907
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,400
all the information that they constantly populated and there by

908
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,679
the way they're like often you know, I think I said,

909
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,239
you know, you and I kind of thought that it

910
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,280
was to be plus app could come, but we also

911
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,440
thought maybe it wouldn't come this year, maybe for twenty

912
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,079
twenty six. They called it. They were like, no, this

913
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,079
is coming for twenty twenty five. So they were on

914
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:23,880
the ball, as they are many times. They tend to

915
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,920
predict that things are coming and they likely happen. They're

916
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,599
also very well sourced, so of course those predictions do

917
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,679
carry a lot of weight. Anyway, about the details of

918
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,039
this now, it is said to be needed by all

919
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:40,920
players to enter tournaments. I think that that's now. Also,

920
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:42,559
I don't know, I I think you saw it, but

921
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:45,159
we both saw Kevin Matt tweet something right that is

922
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:50,400
not sleted, but he had all these responses but those

923
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,840
aren't deleted, so like, I don't know what happened. But

924
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000
like one of the things that we saw in that

925
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,960
now deleted tweet was was it like registration is only

926
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,760
going to be open like nine am to ten pm

927
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,239
or something.

928
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a very iffy. Yes, but but if you.

929
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: Think about it, if they are requiring the WSP plus app,

930
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,920
and you can do all the registration through the WSP

931
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,719
plus app, well, then you can obviously cut the actual

932
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:24,719
live in person registration, right, Like that would make sense

933
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,639
because you're just trying to funnel everything to a much

934
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:31,199
more streamlined and efficient thing, you know, much more overhead

935
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:33,159
on the cost. You don't need all those people in

936
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,639
there working twenty four to seven, you know, you can

937
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,800
just have people can you know, verify their account, load

938
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,119
their account however they do that, and then you know,

939
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,880
registered tournaments right through the app. I believe. I also

940
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,599
saw no more Bravo Poker Live, which was I mean, listen,

941
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,239
Bravo Poker Live was it was a benefit to the

942
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,360
WSP yes, but it was also a bit archaic.

943
00:48:58,079 --> 00:48:59,199
Speaker 2: It was like very old.

944
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,039
Speaker 1: This Waspy plus app looks awesome. So I know it's

945
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:07,559
been in use down at the WSP Paradise and Bahamas

946
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:09,599
for the past two years, but you know, we haven't

947
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:11,440
been there, we haven't used it, so it'll be our

948
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,000
first time using it. So I think it'll be a

949
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:15,599
big help.

950
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: You know.

951
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: It also is going to allow you to track you know,

952
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:21,639
like you'll have your tournament clock right there, you'll have

953
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,920
players remaining price. Well, I just think of it like,

954
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,559
you know, when when I went to play the NAPT

955
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:28,719
event the Poker Stars an APT event at Resorts World,

956
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,719
and you had to use the Poker Stars Live app. Ye,

957
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,440
everything was in the app. So that's just what I

958
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:36,559
think this is. And that sort of stuff is great.

959
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,440
It's certainly going to streamline the process. I'm gonna definitely

960
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,480
try and you know, I'm gonna play five or six

961
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:44,880
events I think this summer, but like try and set

962
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,119
up my account in the early days just so I

963
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:49,360
can press a couple of buttons, not have to wait

964
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,400
in any lines, all that sort of stuff.

965
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: So so we I guess I'm just concerned about is

966
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,960
it allowed. I mean, I'm sure it's fine.

967
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:02,199
Speaker 1: How can they announce it if it's not allowed?

968
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: Hey done stuff we had before. I don't know. I'm

969
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,679
just like I think also, I mean, I love the app.

970
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:11,400
I love everything that they're trying to do with it,

971
00:50:11,519 --> 00:50:14,920
and obviously sweating Paradise through the app was always good.

972
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,000
Just you're coming to Nevada, which has the strictest, you know,

973
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:24,559
gaming regulations, and I'm just wondering, is everything signed off?

974
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,440
That's what I would say.

975
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think they're coming out with the news

976
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,199
if it's not signed off. Secondary to that, I think

977
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,440
Nevada in general needs to like get with the times.

978
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: Yes, that'll agree with that.

979
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: It's not just in this situation. Like I would say

980
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,159
the same thing about like the way Nevada operates with

981
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,239
sports betting, like all this silly nonsense, like like let's

982
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,199
go Nevada, Like you're losing. I see all these numbers

983
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,480
from all the reporters out there, like you know Colorado

984
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:50,480
sports betting numbers, New Jersey, Like you know, they're doing

985
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:53,039
pretty well and they are, like they have a much

986
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:55,480
better user experience for a lot of their stuff versus

987
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:59,920
here in Nevada. So fix it, guys, Like let's go

988
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:04,480
now I'm also kind of a bit of a weird purist.

989
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:08,000
I do really like actually going up to the cage,

990
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:11,280
actually putting my money down, actually getting a ticket, Like,

991
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,400
I like that feeling. I know I've talked with Jeff

992
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,519
Platt about this. I know I've talked with you about this.

993
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: Like, I actually like it.

994
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: Now save me the two hour line. I get it.

995
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,679
That's why I would usually register like eleven thirty at night,

996
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,920
the night before stuff like that, because we're always there.

997
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:27,039
But uh, but but yeah, this will be a really

998
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:29,920
good change of pace. I thought when you were gonna say,

999
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,920
I'm worried that you're gonna be like, are you sure,

1000
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,480
like all the super seniors are gonna be able to

1001
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:36,519
use this app lit? Yeah, I mean that's the one thing.

1002
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: It's also you know, it's the deal. It's too right.

1003
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:43,599
The dealers have to input on bus players. It's gonna

1004
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:47,599
add a bit happened too. I would assume that's how

1005
00:51:47,639 --> 00:51:49,119
I do it, and they do the chip counts and

1006
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:52,119
stuff like. That's gonna slow it's gonna slow the hands

1007
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:55,400
down because they're gonna fumble over the clock and check

1008
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,679
people in bus people.

1009
00:51:57,039 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was all part of it I

1010
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:58,880
thought it was.

1011
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm getting seen that like, if they're going to go,

1012
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,960
they're going to go all in. That's what I mean,

1013
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:04,599
more than.

1014
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: You're soft for the first year, like you kind of

1015
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,079
require all the it's you, it's your soft launch, you know,

1016
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,239
to get all the players to download it to use it,

1017
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:16,039
and then you bring in the next wave of it

1018
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,840
for like twenty twenty six.

1019
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well they're not going to do everything then

1020
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,000
I think it'll be fine. But yeah, just imagine having

1021
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:27,280
to train the dealers and getting you know, all hundreds

1022
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,199
of dealers and thousands of dealers to be able to

1023
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,400
use something they've never used it for.

1024
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: Sound like Matt Savage over here just anti training people.

1025
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: That I'm not anti training at all, but like this

1026
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,440
news just came out less than a month before the

1027
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,159
World Series starts. That's more. My point is that you

1028
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,159
know you've hired, you've already hired dealers, and you probably

1029
00:52:48,159 --> 00:52:51,159
start in the training process. You know that these guys

1030
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,320
might be scrambling internally to to get everyone up to

1031
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:55,719
up to scratch.

1032
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's also why I say that it's probably

1033
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,599
not going to be a dealer. I think it's not

1034
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:01,000
going to be on the tables, like it's not going

1035
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:04,039
to be that robust. I mean, listen, if it is

1036
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,960
cool whatever, but I just don't think it is going

1037
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:09,239
to be for the first year. I think it's going

1038
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,800
to be one of those players saying focus on registration,

1039
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:15,559
streamline that entire process, and then add that next wave

1040
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:18,679
you know for dowasit P plus app two point zero

1041
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,800
if you want to call it that, you know, coming

1042
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,199
for twenty twenty six. So that's where my head is.

1043
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,000
I do kind of wish or maybe I wonder And

1044
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,800
I was looking around on the WASP dot com website

1045
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,679
and I couldn't find a lot of information about it.

1046
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,719
But you know, like I downloaded the app right like

1047
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,440
you said, to sweat some of the stuff down at

1048
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,239
the Bahamas. You know, why can I can I go

1049
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,159
to Horseshoe right now and load it? Like can I

1050
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,000
can I take care of it now? Like what do

1051
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:49,400
I have or do I have to wait till like

1052
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,280
you know, May twenty seventh, and like when everyone's there,

1053
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,800
Like can I just get this out of.

1054
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,079
Speaker 2: The way that I don't know, I'm like actually doing

1055
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:00,480
my profile now because obviously, like I said, I already

1056
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:03,239
had it. It was linked to my club gg account

1057
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,440
as well, so Alady found it.

1058
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: And I think it's all. It's all I'm pretty sure

1059
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,760
what what do they call it? I forget what they

1060
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,719
call the log in, but like your club gg account

1061
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,519
is linked, this is linked, poker Steak account is linked.

1062
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:22,519
Like it's all linked, which is great, Like that's what

1063
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:26,320
you want. You want that ease, you know, so so

1064
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,880
that's all happening. So that's that's really good. I forget

1065
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,159
what it's called, Like you have.

1066
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: Like a GG pass or like what, Yeah, I think

1067
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,880
that's what I figure what it.

1068
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: Is when you have to like I see it. It

1069
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,360
prompts when I go to sign into poker Steak. But

1070
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:42,280
but yeah, I you know, I like that everything is

1071
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,840
is linked together. And then you know, I would say

1072
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,880
probably down the line, you get at least in my

1073
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,000
idea of a perfect world, like if I have money

1074
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:59,239
on ws P dot com, this should all be linked

1075
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,119
in with WIP and then I should also be able

1076
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:04,480
to buy into live tournaments with the money in my

1077
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:06,960
online account, like what like you know, what's the what's

1078
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,079
the difference if it comes out of like what did

1079
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:12,440
I think they called the Paris Tournament account. I think

1080
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,199
they called it, you know, like what's the difference if

1081
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,880
it comes out of that bucket or if it comes

1082
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,000
out of my online bucket, like I would, you know,

1083
00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:19,760
wherever I have the money, Like I should just be

1084
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,880
able to be like, yeah, I'm gonna use this option,

1085
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:24,360
you know. And I think they said that you can

1086
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,440
you can do PayPal to load it that Paris Tournament account.

1087
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:31,000
I think credit card as well, probably some sort of

1088
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:33,800
wire transfer. Again, I kind of looked around WSB dot com.

1089
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,360
I couldn't find it, you know, ahead of this episode,

1090
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,960
but you know, in the coming weeks, coming episodes, I

1091
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:41,000
think we'll get a little bit more clarity on on

1092
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:43,079
how this is all gonna work out. And I'm assuming

1093
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:47,000
with the deleted tweet from keV Math, you know, it's

1094
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:48,760
also probably still a little bit of a work in

1095
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,440
progress in terms of the messaging that that you know,

1096
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,039
they're getting out there with you know, Kevi Math obviously

1097
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:58,480
being the divisiity social medias are so yeah, so I guess,

1098
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:00,639
you know, stay tuned to that. But I mean I

1099
00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:04,000
would say you can also probably download the app wherever

1100
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:05,960
you are right now and kind of get ahead start,

1101
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,599
get a little feel.

1102
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,599
Speaker 2: For it, you know whatever, get a verify your profile

1103
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:12,480
and identity, do all that stuff. Get that out of

1104
00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:12,920
the way now.

1105
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know, obviously once you get here,

1106
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:17,760
when you come, you're gonna have to get all that

1107
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,760
squared away. But at least you'll be you know, one

1108
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,800
step ahead of everyone else as opposed to coming here

1109
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,960
and you know, you walk into the registration line, they

1110
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,519
tell you got to do this and then whatever.

1111
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: So Super Senior's Day is going to be a fun

1112
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:33,559
day at the registration case. Well, that's what.

1113
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of one thing that I'm a little bit

1114
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,639
confused about is I believe I've seen that they're still

1115
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:43,639
going to have the regular registration open, but then I've

1116
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,320
also seen that you need to have the app. So

1117
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:52,199
like again, that's what when I say like the super

1118
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,239
Senior or the Seniors, I mean, sorry, I'm you know,

1119
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,159
we're kind of you know, bashing you guys a little

1120
00:56:57,159 --> 00:56:59,840
bit here, but you know, it is what it is.

1121
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1122
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: So anyway, then also, what if you don't have a smartphone,

1123
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:08,239
there has to be some work around. But yeah, I

1124
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,559
mean not everyone has a smartphone.

1125
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: Not everyone has a smartphone. Yeah, look, it's gonna take

1126
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,320
some time. It's just like any kind of you know,

1127
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:19,719
technology changes to people. It's gonna it's gonna take a

1128
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:21,719
little bit of a bit of time before everyone's adjusted.

1129
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:25,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll say that, you know, all in all,

1130
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,960
very positive move, good move. So you know, I think

1131
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,320
it's gonna make things a lot more efficient, a lot

1132
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,679
easier during the summer. You know, if you're somebody who

1133
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,679
who obviously wants to like deposit money on there and

1134
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:42,519
all that sort of thing, you get that squared away.

1135
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,960
It should alleviate having the stand in long lines like

1136
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,360
all that sort of stuff, which is great. I also

1137
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,639
gonna help like if you have like simple things like

1138
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,400
you have the tournament clock right there and it's synced

1139
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,039
on your phone, so you don't have to like get

1140
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:56,920
up and be like hey serious, set a timer for

1141
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,199
twelve minutes, and then you know, you and I are

1142
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:00,800
walking in the hallway, You're like, oh, how much time

1143
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,320
do we have left? I have thirteen minutes? Why I

1144
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:02,800
have eleven?

1145
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:03,639
Speaker 2: Oh? Well what is it?

1146
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:05,159
Speaker 4: You know, like all that.

1147
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just right there on your phone,

1148
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,119
which is really great. So again, I think this is

1149
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:13,280
a positive thing and uh. You know that combined with

1150
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,360
the fact that we now have the online bracelet schedule,

1151
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,320
we got joint player pools, you know, with Pennsylvania now

1152
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,039
in there. I mean, it's it's time, baby, let's go.

1153
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:25,239
We're a month away from everything. Poker Go will be

1154
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,840
coming out with its streaming plans pretty soon, and we've

1155
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,760
been working hard at it, just kind of trying to

1156
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,840
nail everything down. Excited for that, you know, obviously excited

1157
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,920
for the summer, and yeah, I'm looking forward to what

1158
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:39,559
else you got for.

1159
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:43,679
Speaker 2: It to be a great summer, is it? Yeah? Of course?

1160
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: So okay, well you want me. How about this? We've

1161
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,079
been really positive. Let's get negative for a second. Oh god, no,

1162
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:51,320
why not? Like I can't, I can't just let a

1163
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,639
whole bunch of you know, sunshine and rainbow has been

1164
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,039
blowing out everyone's ass. We got to get a little negative.

1165
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,920
I'm now. I will also say that I don't know,

1166
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,440
necessarily think that what I'm about to say is negative.

1167
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:06,400
It's it's like a negative prediction in a way. It's

1168
00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:10,159
it's I'm not fully ready to like, you know, ink

1169
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:12,679
the prediction, like sign the dotted line and send it in.

1170
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:16,480
But it's it's been working. It's like in the It's

1171
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:19,360
in the It's in the take Oven. And I think

1172
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:22,639
WSP actually comes out in the positive through all of this.

1173
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,639
And what I'm gonna say is that there is a

1174
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,400
crap ton of poker in Vegas this summer. Okay. I

1175
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:34,280
also think that generally speaking, just with the way that

1176
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,559
again people having kind of less money to spend. Also

1177
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,320
as it pertains to the summer, are the Europeans going

1178
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,400
to come over? Just with everything that's going on, like

1179
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:49,320
with the politics and you know, all this sort of stuff.

1180
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,559
Like I don't know, I feel like if people were

1181
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:53,960
going to sit out, they might sit out. If you're

1182
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,639
kind of on the fence, maybe you lean a little

1183
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:57,920
bit more towards not coming versus coming, Like I don't,

1184
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,679
I don't know exactly. So there's that. Now, do you

1185
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,880
also lose people in Vegas in general because of something

1186
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:10,280
like Pennsylvania joining where now Pennsylvania gets action within the

1187
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,079
bigger player pool, they get action to thirty online bracelets,

1188
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:16,119
Maybe you don't have to make a week or two

1189
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:18,679
trip out here. And what I'm gonna say is that

1190
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,599
everywhere outside of the w s AP, from what I

1191
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:24,639
can tell, has guarantees on every single event on their schedule.

1192
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,840
Sp of course doesn't need to do that. They only

1193
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:33,119
they guarantee what the Gladiators event, they guarantee a million

1194
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:35,400
dollar bounty and a million dollar first place prize. In

1195
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,599
the Mystery Millions event, they guarantee, you know, a million

1196
01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:40,519
dollar first place prize and a millionaire maker. But like

1197
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,440
those prize pools get a bazillion dollar, so it's not

1198
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,280
even that big of a deal, right, So they don't

1199
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,519
ever have to really worry about missing guarantees. But everyone

1200
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,079
else does. Yeah, and some of these guarantees are freaking huge,

1201
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,039
So I'm a little bit worried that a lot of

1202
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:01,239
the other places are gonna missed a lot of guarantees,

1203
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,599
you know. Now, why say that like this can be

1204
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:11,239
quote unquote positive for dovaspvasitp like their numbers could be down,

1205
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,360
let's say, like if everything's down, but they don't have guarantees,

1206
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,960
so it doesn't really matter, right. And also they have

1207
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:18,800
more events this year than they had last year, so

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01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:21,760
as a whole, they probably go up in terms of

1209
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,920
entries for the whole summer. So that's fine as well,

1210
01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:28,039
But you're looking like a win of Venetian in Aria,

1211
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:31,480
like even the smaller ones, the Golden Nuggets, the Orleans, like,

1212
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:36,400
they all have guarantees. And so you see it across

1213
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,440
the board. You just saw it in Texas, like there's

1214
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,920
it's getting hard to kind of pull the same numbers, right.

1215
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:45,480
It seems like it seemed like for let's say the

1216
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:48,960
last year or two, things kind of plateaued, which is

1217
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:52,199
largely because there's just so much on off. There is

1218
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,079
so much going around now, I would say the plateau

1219
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:56,840
has kind of started to be a little bit of

1220
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,920
a decline slope. Not a lot, but just a little bit.

1221
01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:02,159
But if you got, like I was looking at the

1222
01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:04,920
wind schedule, they have forty million dollars in guarantees of summer.

1223
01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:08,599
I mean, like what, like, are these places all going

1224
01:02:08,679 --> 01:02:09,800
to hit them? Are they worried?

1225
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 4: Like you know?

1226
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I feel like it could

1227
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,840
be bad now. I don't think it's gonna be like

1228
01:02:18,639 --> 01:02:21,159
a bloodbath like per event. Like if you have let's

1229
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:22,880
say a five hundred K guarantee, I don't think you're

1230
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,159
getting three hundred k. But let's say you get a

1231
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:28,880
five hundred K guarantee and you get four seventy, so

1232
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:30,880
now you're thirty k short, and then the next event

1233
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,760
is five k shore, and the next event is you know,

1234
01:02:33,039 --> 01:02:35,039
and these are these like they're like fifty events on

1235
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,360
these schedules, like it's a lot Nick can add up quickly.

1236
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:43,440
So I don't know. I'm like kind of worried about

1237
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:46,119
just everything that's going on in the state of the world,

1238
01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:51,599
et cetera. So that's my negative Nancy thought. Obviously, I

1239
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,440
don't want it to happen. I hope it doesn't happen,

1240
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,320
you know. I want poker everywhere to just be through

1241
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,119
the roof. But that's kind of my thought.

1242
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,239
Speaker 2: No, I think I agree with you. I think the

1243
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,119
numbers will be down. I think people from overseas will

1244
01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:09,159
be skeptical to come in. Last month, we obviously we

1245
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:13,840
had some webbly state of the market, which affects things

1246
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,679
as well. We're not sure where that's going to be

1247
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,320
in another month. So look, if I was an international operator,

1248
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,639
like a Pocus Stars in Europe, I would be putting

1249
01:03:21,639 --> 01:03:25,719
on a big festival in Europe because I think it

1250
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,440
would be heavily attended from the European crowd. But here

1251
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,199
in America, I think the World Series will be fine.

1252
01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:38,159
I will bet that their numbers are down, you know,

1253
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:43,400
on average in each event, but the addition of flights

1254
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,159
in the bigger field events, I think their total entrant

1255
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:50,000
numbers will eclipse last year. You know something. They'll be

1256
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,159
worried they're the other rooms. I think they're just they

1257
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,360
understand what the World Series is. Everyone's coming into town

1258
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,800
to play events. All the casinos here in Vegas will

1259
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,679
work together and kind of figure their schedules out so

1260
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,679
there's not too much clashing, I think. And they've done

1261
01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:10,719
a pretty decent job. It's not you can't be perfect,

1262
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,000
but they've done decent enough job to do that this year,

1263
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:17,360
and you're really giving players a full range of events

1264
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,599
they can play. And I think those five and JK

1265
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:22,719
guarantees that I'll be fine, to be honest. So I

1266
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,840
don't think any of the smaller rooms quote unquote, like

1267
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:29,079
smaller in the World Series are really that worried about

1268
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,079
about anything.

1269
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I hope, I'm just just worrying for

1270
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:38,119
the sake of worrying, you know. I would maybe maybe

1271
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:40,159
over the next couple of weeks, I'll kind of look

1272
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:42,719
around a little bit more of the regional stuff that's happening,

1273
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,280
and see if there's like a year over year type

1274
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:50,880
of thing that I can kind of pinpoint. But yeah,

1275
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,000
I mean we'll see, you know. Now, let me spin

1276
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:58,880
it back positive and say that the Aria Poker Classic

1277
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:05,679
specific this thirty five hundred dollars buying BETMGM event is

1278
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,039
just a BETEMGM.

1279
01:05:06,639 --> 01:05:08,559
Speaker 2: Event championship championship.

1280
01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:13,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, three million dollar guarantee. This event I think can

1281
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:21,639
blowdoors because Pennsylvania, now that I know that Nevada's not

1282
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,440
involved in the BEDMGM stuff, but they've all like they

1283
01:05:24,519 --> 01:05:27,800
have this. They made that c note tournament, the free note,

1284
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,039
it had a boosted guarantee, and I think they're even

1285
01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:33,719
giving a BETMGM championship package worth five K to the

1286
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,039
winner of that, and like they're starting to put the

1287
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:39,679
packages and stuff out there. Well, now, if you have

1288
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:43,559
Michigan and New Jersey linked with Pennsylvania, you can run

1289
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:47,440
bigger satellites for your marquee event. So I think this

1290
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,960
event specifically could really benefit from the fact that Pennsylvania

1291
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:54,280
is now involved in the multi state agreement, so they

1292
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,519
can boost their prize schools, their satellite offerings, you know,

1293
01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:01,119
run more of them all that sort of stuff. So

1294
01:06:01,239 --> 01:06:03,039
I think this event, like let's say last year it

1295
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,119
got I don't know, I'm just throwing a number out there.

1296
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:06,360
I have no idea what the number is. Let's say

1297
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,800
it got fifty satellite qualifiers, that could easily be one hundred.

1298
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,039
It could easily be one hundred this year. Now, Like,

1299
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:14,760
so this event specifically can do really really really well.

1300
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're spot on right there.

1301
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: So you know, I think if I think this event

1302
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,360
can be one of those ones where I know, obviously

1303
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,519
a lot of people are like, first and foremost, I'm

1304
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:30,559
gonna play WAIP stuff that's the most value obviously, the

1305
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:33,599
bracelets all that, I get it. I would say this

1306
01:06:33,719 --> 01:06:35,880
time frame, you know, it takes place right before the

1307
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,280
WSP main event, I would say, you know, probably pencil

1308
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,360
this one into your schedule.

1309
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 4: You know.

1310
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a it's a good one. And

1311
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,320
if you get a lot of online satellite qualifiers, you know,

1312
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,119
that could also provide again a lot of value. So

1313
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:54,719
I think that that's probably gonna be beneficial, you know,

1314
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,760
through through all of this. So, I mean, we'll see

1315
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:01,679
overall how it all plays out. But uh, but yeah,

1316
01:07:02,199 --> 01:07:05,679
it's gonna be nuts. Man, It's definitely gonna be nuts.

1317
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: Can't wait, can't wait? All right?

1318
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: We got nothing else, I don't think, right, mm hmmm

1319
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,639
mm hmm, All right, well, I mean, I guess next

1320
01:07:15,679 --> 01:07:18,840
week we'll bring some up, probably have a little bit

1321
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,239
more clarity on the WS plus app stuff. We can

1322
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,079
talk about that. We can start just kind of previewing

1323
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:30,440
the summer stuff. It's obviously big, and it's enormous all

1324
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,159
summer long. So I'm looking forward to getting into everything.

1325
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,719
And I know we say it all the time, but

1326
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,000
it's gonna be here before we know it. And now

1327
01:07:38,199 --> 01:07:40,559
we're less than a month away, it's certainly gonna be

1328
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:43,960
here before we know it. So I can't wait, all right.

1329
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:46,440
For Tim Duckworth, my name is Donny Peters. We will

1330
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,920
talk to you guys next time, so you