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<v Speaker 2>the same type of reaction. And what I mean is

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<v Speaker 2>you go out there and you take care of business.

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<v Speaker 2>You do exactly what you are supposed to do against

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<v Speaker 2>you know, these kind of opponents. And Louisville right now

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<v Speaker 2>favored by twenty eight and a half against this Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 2>State team that I don't even know where. They were

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<v Speaker 2>predicted to finish in the Atlantic Sun this year, but

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<v Speaker 2>they got off to a rough loss against Coastal Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>in their first game and now they're underdogs about four touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, they are a step up from what

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<v Speaker 2>you would expect from an FCS team, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Austin p is not even Division one. Jacksonville State is. However,

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<v Speaker 2>they're you know, they're brand new to Division one at least,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, within the last few years.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would expect Louisville to be pretty dominant,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you'll see Jeff Brohm be pretty vanilla, meaning,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably play as quarterback for a half if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, unless for some reason he thinks that there's

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<v Speaker 2>more value. You know, there's value in getting him to

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<v Speaker 2>play more. But I mean, if you're Tyler, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what you have in Tyler Shuck. The guy's a seventh

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<v Speaker 2>year senior, so I think it's important for him to

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<v Speaker 2>get some valuable reps and continue to establish that chemistry

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<v Speaker 2>with his offense. But once they've put it on this team,

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<v Speaker 2>which I hope they do in the first and second quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>we may it may be a while before we see

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Shuck playing in a third quarter. And that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing because that means you're taking care of business

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<v Speaker 2>against these type of opponents. So bye week next week,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you've got George Attack and Georgia Tech only

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half point favorites against Syracuse, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know Syracuse made a coaching change, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know times that Dome can be sneaky because and

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you this firsthand just being there for

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<v Speaker 2>a football game. It's clearly because it's a dome, but

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<v Speaker 2>there can be not that many people there at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sound loud as hell in there, which is

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<v Speaker 2>honestly like, it's got to be confusing as a player,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're playing there for the first time. You're

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<v Speaker 2>wondering where all is sound coming from. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>were allowed pretty early when I was there, when Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>played custon twenty sixteen, when Lamar Jackson, I think on

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<v Speaker 2>that Friday night, won the Heisman Trophy, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody else did enough to take it from him, although

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<v Speaker 2>I think he set up himself for that following week

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<v Speaker 2>when they took on Florida State and demolished them, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably when he actually won the Heisman Trophy for

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<v Speaker 2>being honest. But anyways, you know Clemson and not Clemson

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<v Speaker 2>but Syracuse. You know, I hope they don't beat Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>Tech because I would love for Louisville to have their

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<v Speaker 2>first ACC opponent be against a ranked Georgia Tech team

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<v Speaker 2>and there'd be some real value there. Now again, who

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<v Speaker 2>cares if people say, well, yeah, I just if Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>beats Georgia Tech, then they'll fall from the top twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five and that'll mean that they just stink and the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the ACC stinks. Everybody in the ACC just sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there'll be some people that say that, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Louisville, take advantage of it, just because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can only control who you can only control.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens when you play somebody, right like you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got to play who's on the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>and you're in the ACC, and I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 2>wants the league to stink and I'm not here to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that it does stink, but I just as

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<v Speaker 2>we've discussed for a while, including the last two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>really with FSU and then Clemson and then Virginia Tech

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can't control it. Just go win.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, in fact, it doesn't really like if you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're really really if you feel like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a team that once you get there, you could actually

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<v Speaker 2>be competitive in the College Football Playoff. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>now you know, you probably want the ACC to suck

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<v Speaker 2>every year because hey, right now, with the playoff structure

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<v Speaker 2>of the way it is, it doesn't matter if you

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<v Speaker 2>win that league. You're getting a spot in the playoff

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<v Speaker 2>schedule as lightly as possible, right Go play a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of Patsy's in the non conference and then go play

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<v Speaker 2>in your league, and if it's down, who cares. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still you're still slotted with a spot in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff because it's one of the Power four leagues. And

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<v Speaker 2>again I'm not saying that I think the ACC is trash.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Boston College. I know it's all about Florida State,

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<v Speaker 2>but they look pretty damn good the other night. I

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<v Speaker 2>know Castellanos can play. We saw that first hand last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech. They finished with nine wins this year or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry last year, and they're coming off a top

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<v Speaker 2>four finish in the league. Maybe they are legitimately a

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty five caliber team. Miami looks really really good. Clemson,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we find out that they're a solid team this

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<v Speaker 2>year that's going to be a top twenty team all year.

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<v Speaker 2>They just happen to run into, you know, Georgia, who

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<v Speaker 2>is dominant. So either way, like I I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>psych myself up for a potential matchup against a ranked

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<v Speaker 2>team in a couple of weeks when they get off

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<v Speaker 2>the buy. But then again, like you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm searching for validation and I'm never gonna get it

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the ACC because I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>think the ACC. I'm not even really sure what they

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<v Speaker 2>could do this current season for the narrative to be

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<v Speaker 2>different about them as a league. I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even really sure what scenario like what could play out

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<v Speaker 2>to where at the end of the season people say, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC really proved this wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>They're legit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the only thing that could happen was maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the national champion be an ACC team, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>get a second team in the league, I'm sorry, the

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<v Speaker 2>second team from the league in the playoffs and they

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<v Speaker 2>compete and make a run in the playoff as well, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really unlikely. But I feel like outside of that,

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<v Speaker 2>what else could happen to where people will look back

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<v Speaker 2>and say, well, you know what, the ACC really got

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<v Speaker 2>better this year. We should stop treating this as if

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<v Speaker 2>it's the worst league in the history of college football.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, We'll move on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little envious of Kentucky's matchup in Week two,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you can tell that this is a big

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<v Speaker 2>game for both of these teams, not because it will

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<v Speaker 2>really set up anything special, but these two programs, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel view themselves as if they're kind of competing for

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<v Speaker 2>that for that spot in the SEC. Realistically speaking, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to win your league, you want to compete

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<v Speaker 2>at the very top. But these two programs, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>deep down know that that's not realistically possible. Obviously, Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Spurrier did a pretty good job there for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jadevian Clowney era was pretty special for him. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like since then, and since Mark Stoops got

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<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky, I feel like these two schools are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in the same spot.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what their head to head record is.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I honestly have no.

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<v Speaker 2>Clue, but in the previous divisions, which now there aren't divisions,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think South Carolina and Kentucky are programs that

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<v Speaker 2>could be four and four in conference play with a

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<v Speaker 2>seven and five maybe eight and four season, and they

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<v Speaker 2>would look at where they finished in their league at

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred and yet they can feel like, oh, we're great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just we're in this great league because they realistically

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<v Speaker 2>know they're not going to consistently compete at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of that league with the likes of Georgia, Alabama and

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<v Speaker 2>even Florida when they're rolling, which by the way, you

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<v Speaker 2>know they haven't been rolling in quite some time. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Ole miss has got some momentum now. LSU

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<v Speaker 2>like they kind of know where they stand to where

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<v Speaker 2>they can live comfortably knowing that they're not really relevant

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<v Speaker 2>in the grand scheme of things of their conference, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're not at the bottom. And this matchup here, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like has kind of annually become you in this one,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're going to be above the bottom. Although

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<v Speaker 2>last year South Carolina sucked out loud, what were they

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<v Speaker 2>like four and eight and then still beat Kentucky. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong. I feel like Shane Beemer, like he's a character,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and you know, I don't think he's a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible coach, but like, if they're terrible this year, like

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<v Speaker 2>how much longer does he keep his job? I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they did have two years ago they went eight and five.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year five and seven, three and five overall, they

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<v Speaker 2>nearly lost to Old Dominion in their first game. In

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<v Speaker 2>his first season, they went seven and six. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>ten and fourteen in the SEC twenty one and eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>overall right now, And I kind of feel like this,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is probably a bigger I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>is it a bigger game for Kentucky or for South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think it really depends on I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>for each of these two teams. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be six and six or better, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 2>look at this as a game that you need to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you're South Carolina, let's look up their schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see here, because there's a chance they could have

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<v Speaker 2>a really much tougher or much a much lighter schedule

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<v Speaker 2>than Kentucky depending on how it, you know, how.

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<v Speaker 3>Played out with the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're South Carolina and you know you're actually

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Shane Beemer and you know you need to

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<v Speaker 2>not only not be at the bottom of the league,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably need to have a winning record overall and

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<v Speaker 2>at least be four and four in SEC play. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot easier said than done because they have Kentucky this

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<v Speaker 2>week and then they play LSU that'll be at home.

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<v Speaker 2>They play Akron, they play Ole Miss at home, they

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<v Speaker 2>play Bama, They've got Oklahoma on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, their schedule is pretty damn tough. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they I mean, and they play Clemson to close out

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're if you're South Carolina and Beemer, like

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta win this one because LSU is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a loss for you. Ole Miss is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a loss for you. Alabama's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>loss for you. Oklahoma, We'll have to wait and see,

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<v Speaker 2>Considering that game is in Norman A and M I'd

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<v Speaker 2>home for you. You should beat Vandy Missouri. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been better than you recently. And then you play

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You could always pull off an upset, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like again, this is a game that South

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<v Speaker 2>we have to have that. Now if you're Kentucky, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>think the optics of this would be bad. That stoops

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<v Speaker 2>coming off of a three and five SEC season a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago. Yeah, they did beat Louisville, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>big win for him, was a win against the rank

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<v Speaker 2>the top ten team at their place. But he's three

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<v Speaker 2>and five in the SEC in his last two seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>seven and six overall in each of his last two seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they come out and start one in one

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<v Speaker 2>and they lose to South Carolina, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>not even just I would I wouldn't even say that

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is like a fact. It's just I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'll start to hear more of Well, the best

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<v Speaker 2>football for Kentucky under Mark Stoops is in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>They can still be a bold caliber team. Maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to five hundred and SEC play, But now that

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<v Speaker 2>Texas and Oklahoma in the league, they can't beat South

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina consistently anymore. Tennesse sees ahead of them, Missouri has

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<v Speaker 2>surpassed them. Like I think you would hear more. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'll hear more noise about Mark Stoops. Not to

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<v Speaker 2>say that fans will be demanding he'd be fired, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think even if you wanted a fresh start, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know Mark Stoops is not getting fired. If

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<v Speaker 2>he ever is not Kentucky's head coach, it'll be because

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<v Speaker 2>he decides not to be Kentucky's head coach. And trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying fans should be should be leading some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a charge because Stoops has done a great

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<v Speaker 2>job there in the grand scheme of things, especially considering

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<v Speaker 2>where the program was when he inherited it.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, how much happened? Can you all?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, haven't you maybe kept? Like are you still

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<v Speaker 2>satisfied with seven and six overall? Three and five in

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<v Speaker 2>the league play? I think some of you are if

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<v Speaker 2>it includes betting Louisville. But if you go six and

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<v Speaker 2>six in the regular season, three and five in the

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<v Speaker 2>SEC and you start losing to Louisville, which is going

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<v Speaker 2>to start happening, by the way, I'm speaking into existence here.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you, you wouldn't be happy Withtoops anymore, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You would probably be in a loveless marriage where you

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<v Speaker 2>thank him for everything he did to actually give you

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<v Speaker 2>an extended period of time where you were way more

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<v Speaker 2>successful than you've really ever been. He proved the administration

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<v Speaker 2>into the state and to their fans that if you

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<v Speaker 2>do invest in football and you have a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>can recruit to a place like Kentucky, you can be

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<v Speaker 2>different than what you were for a long long time,

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<v Speaker 2>which was for the most part the doormat of your league.

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<v Speaker 2>But like if it's capped out, like does he get

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<v Speaker 2>tired and want to move on? There's some talk of

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<v Speaker 2>like he may just retire and not coach football anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know enough about Mark Stoops to know that,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know, he would be fine with football not being.

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<v Speaker 3>A part of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to keep mind his brother did retire

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<v Speaker 2>pretty early and has had no real interest in coming

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<v Speaker 2>back to the college game, which I think surprised a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, including myself. I just mean he was

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<v Speaker 4>So I still think, and people may disagree with this,

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<v Speaker 4>that as soon as the Iowa job opens up, Kirk

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<v Speaker 4>Ferns people know that Mark Stoops is an aluma of Iowa.

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<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't surprise me if things are still kind of

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<v Speaker 4>sour with Kentucky if he made that move over to

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<v Speaker 3>You never know, it could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that's something a lot of folks have

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned as far as a potential that could get him

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<v Speaker 2>away because the best and biggest jobs aren't coming after him. No,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be fair, Kentucky has made it to where

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be foolish to leave because you would need I

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<v Speaker 2>think you would need a bigger and better, like an

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<v Speaker 2>elite job. Would be the kind of job that would

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<v Speaker 2>pay him enough to get him out of there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of a school that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a good like for example, Miami. They would never hire him,

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<v Speaker 2>but like if they did, they would pay him a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more than what they're paying their current coach and

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<v Speaker 2>Miami's a way better program, better resources, and better tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not viewed as a doormat of a league like

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky has been for a long time. But if your

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops like, yeah, they got more tradition, But like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already paid a lot and make a ton of money,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can go seven and five here and know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm never gonna have to worry about my job.

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<v Speaker 2>I could go six and six and never have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about my job. To be honest with you, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as Minch Barnhardt's there, So I think Iowa would

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<v Speaker 2>make sense because of the connection that he he played there.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're Iowa, is that the direction you would

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<v Speaker 2>want to go? Like Stoops is weird, And this is

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<v Speaker 2>not meant to be like a dig at him because

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<v Speaker 2>he has mean I don't even find Mark Stoops to

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<v Speaker 2>be that unlikable. I don't like him as a football

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<v Speaker 2>coach because he coaches the rival, right, he's the enemy,

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<v Speaker 2>He's the Kentucky coach. But I do respect the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he has turned Kentucky around and done something that

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's ever done there, meaning, you know, have this type

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<v Speaker 2>of success consistently, and he doesn't seem like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just don't know if a program like IOWA

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<v Speaker 2>will be energized at Stoops. Because again, it all comes

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<v Speaker 2>back to this when you see those out there that

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<v Speaker 2>cover college football that are respected in regards to their

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<v Speaker 2>opinion on the sport, A lot of those guys still

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<v Speaker 2>view Mark Stoops as one of the top twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>coaches in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Some think he's a top twenty, top twenty, top fifteen coach.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing they can point to to make that

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<v Speaker 2>make any sense is that Kentucky used to be the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest joke in their league outside of Andy, and now

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<v Speaker 2>they're not. Like there's no record at Kentucky, Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three and fifty five overall an SEC play and

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<v Speaker 2>I know he went oh to eight, two and six,

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<v Speaker 2>two and six in his first three seasons, but even

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<v Speaker 2>since then he has a losing record, which again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>tough to win. I mean, it's tough to have a

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<v Speaker 2>winning record in the SEC. Like I'll acknowledge that, But

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<v Speaker 2>my point is this, like, I just don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>a program like IOWA or a program like A and

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<v Speaker 2>M and it played out this way if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>for Stoops and all you can give me is, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he Kentucky doesn't suck anymore like that? That

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<v Speaker 2>falls flat, does it not, especially if you're a program

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like you can compete at the highest level

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<v Speaker 2>of the sport.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I was weird. They've only had two head

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<v Speaker 4>coaches in the last forty years, so they've had guys

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<v Speaker 4>who have been there for a very long time. They're

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<v Speaker 4>weird in a variety of ways, aren't they they. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they play very weird style. I mean maybe it's changed

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<v Speaker 4>this year. They hung forty in their first week, so

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see. But yeah, that's I was an interesting program.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be interesting if down the line, Mark Stoopson's up

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<v Speaker 4>at his alumni home.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how old as Mark Stoups. Let's see here

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<v Speaker 3>is he? I think it is fifty. He's fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty seven, so he just turned fifty seven a couple

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, so he's still I mean, that's young for

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<v Speaker 2>a ball coach. I mean, and yes, I'm doing a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of the you know, mocking the robble here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm also not making something up. He was crying

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<v Speaker 2>before the season started about having to do his job

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<v Speaker 2>like that's unusual behavior. It's another example of stoops, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, having like one of the like it sounds hyperbole,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like a backhanded compliment. It sounds like you're

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<v Speaker 2>making a joke. But I also think if you really

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<v Speaker 2>give it some thought, it's not crazy to say that

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<v Speaker 2>he might have the best job in college football, because

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<v Speaker 2>what coach could make that kind of money with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not a whole lot to show for it, meaning not

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of I mean, other coaches that make

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of money have way more of an impressive resume.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kentucky realizes, Hey, this guy is as good as

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<v Speaker 2>we've ever had as far as what we're doing, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, consistently, So let's pay him whatever we got

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<v Speaker 2>to pay him to keep him around. And I can't

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<v Speaker 2>fall Kentucky for doing that, but it's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a made man. This is a guy who had

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<v Speaker 2>a whole season vacated, which is stupid, right, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>coming off of back to back years where they were disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Kentucky last year did not meet expectations. They had

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<v Speaker 2>Devin Leary and the portal. Everybody thought that was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be going to be special. They went three and

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<v Speaker 2>five in their league, and without a win against Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>a big upset for them, they would have been six

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<v Speaker 2>and six, and I don't mean and it probably would

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<v Speaker 2>have been the worst Offseasonstoops has experienced to Kentucky. But

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<v Speaker 2>he beat the rival and it was a big win

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<v Speaker 2>for him. I don't think that Kentucky fans went from

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<v Speaker 2>viewing the season as a disappointment to claiming it was

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<v Speaker 2>the best season ever. But let's not be foolish. Year

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<v Speaker 2>beating your rival when they're really good can change a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>If Louisville was in the same situation last year and

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky was in the top ten and louisll beat them,

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<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, it would change a little bit as far

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<v Speaker 2>as how you view your league. That's just how the

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<v Speaker 2>rivalry works. But the year before that, in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>Will loves Is last year three and five again in

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC, lost it home to Vandy. Underwhelming. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>coming off of like back to back underwhelming seasons. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>he still makes a ton of money. He got a

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<v Speaker 2>huge extension and raise when they lost to Bandy during

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<v Speaker 2>that season, and you know you listen to him before

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<v Speaker 2>the season starts, and he's, Oh, I just don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how much longer I can do this. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>if he said it like that because we only had quotes,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that's quite literally word for word what he said,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know how much longer he can keep doing this?

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<v Speaker 3>Just unusual behavior from a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>So I bring all that up to say, like, if

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<v Speaker 2>they somehow slip up to South Carolina they have a

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<v Speaker 2>who hum season once again where they're flirting with Bowl eligibility,

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<v Speaker 2>it might make It might take another win over Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>an upset over the Cards again that could get their

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<v Speaker 2>fan base feeling good about football, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that they're gloom and doom and they have mean again.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, maybe they end up having a good year

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<v Speaker 2>this year. But I feel like their fans sort of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, their expectations for this upcoming, for this current

420
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<v Speaker 2>season that we're in right now, they just started. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like what happens Saturday against the game Cocks will

422
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<v Speaker 2>be a big factor in sort of Okay, maybe Stoops

423
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<v Speaker 2>has capped out here, or hey, we beat the breaks

424
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<v Speaker 2>off this South CA A lot of team, let's see

425
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<v Speaker 2>what we can do the rest of the way. It's

426
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<v Speaker 2>a big game, no doubt. All right, quick break, we'll

427
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<v Speaker 2>come back on the other side. Keep it rolling along.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Talk some NFL because the Athletic has given us their

429
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<v Speaker 2>annual rundown where they ask I think seven eight different

430
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<v Speaker 2>questions to different NFL coaches and executives, and their answers

431
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<v Speaker 2>to some of these questions may surprise you. Which quarterback

432
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<v Speaker 2>is going to have the biggest breakout season, Which team

433
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<v Speaker 2>is going to be the most disappointing. Which player would

434
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<v Speaker 2>you like to start a franchise with if you can

435
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<v Speaker 2>only pick one. So we'll take a look at that

436
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<v Speaker 2>and a lot more. It's Coffee and company. Feel about

437
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<v Speaker 2>Thornton's on Sports Talk seven to ninety So not news

438
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<v Speaker 2>you usually see in early September once school has started

439
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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball. But Penny Hardaway, he's looking for I mean,

440
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<v Speaker 2>he's looking for a brand new coaching staff because he

441
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<v Speaker 2>has gotten rid of all of his assistant coaches outside

442
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<v Speaker 2>of you know, let's see here, it's double check here.

443
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<v Speaker 1>Because I.

444
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<v Speaker 2>There's no way he could have gotten rid of his

445
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<v Speaker 2>like how I mean, how did you go about like

446
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<v Speaker 2>your day to day if you don't have anybody on

447
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<v Speaker 2>your staff. But there was a total of four including

448
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<v Speaker 2>Rick Stansbury that as of now is no longer with

449
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<v Speaker 2>the Memphis staff at Penny Hardaway. So yeah, you've got

450
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<v Speaker 2>Jermaine Johnson, Jamie Rosser, a guy with a lot with

451
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<v Speaker 2>a last named Phillips, and Rick Stansbury all out at Memphis.

452
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<v Speaker 2>So there's just no scenario. The timing here makes it

453
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<v Speaker 2>to where he's just decided, well, I'm gonna have to

454
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<v Speaker 2>regroup and get a new coaching staff. You do that

455
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<v Speaker 2>after your season, not now. So maybe there's a story,

456
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<v Speaker 2>some controversy that's gonna come out. I don't know, but

457
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<v Speaker 2>maybe this does open up a spot for Nolan Smith,

458
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<v Speaker 2>who I mean, there's two different jobs that ever. But

459
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, if it's not coming from the newsbreakers

460
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<v Speaker 2>in the college basketball world, I guess now we have

461
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<v Speaker 2>to kind of just, you know, wait and see if

462
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<v Speaker 2>there's any legitimacy. Because Trilli Donovan, Jeff Goodman, Matt Norlander,

463
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<v Speaker 2>Gary Parrish, John Rothstein, would you say that's the top

464
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<v Speaker 2>tier as far as people who break news in college hoops?

465
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<v Speaker 2>John laid them all out of Yeah, so you know,

466
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<v Speaker 2>nobody's reported on Nolan from that group, but there were

467
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<v Speaker 2>there was you know, no, basically, it's just websites who

468
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<v Speaker 2>cover certain programs. They mentioned Nolan being a guy that

469
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<v Speaker 2>could be taking a spot on Penny Hardaway's staff a

470
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<v Speaker 2>couple months ago. I thought for sure that meant that

471
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<v Speaker 2>it was happening, and it didn't. Same thing for Central Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the connection with Johnny Dawkins, who was close friends

473
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<v Speaker 2>with Nolan's father, who had an opening on his staff

474
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<v Speaker 2>at Central Florida, and they went and when they went

475
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<v Speaker 2>in a different direction.

476
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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, you've got five.

477
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<v Speaker 2>Openings right now, according to this this person who covers

478
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<v Speaker 2>Memphis for one of the newspapers there. In fact, overall

479
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<v Speaker 2>seven staff members lost this offseason, which, by the way,

480
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<v Speaker 2>Stansbury people can make jokes, but he's a I mean,

481
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<v Speaker 2>he's a great recruiter. I will remember Stell. I remember

482
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<v Speaker 2>Rick Stansbury not for the good teams he had at

483
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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State or the success that he had at Western.

484
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<v Speaker 2>As far as recruiting, I'll just remember him doing so

485
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<v Speaker 2>little with a lot for a program like Western. Like

486
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Western fans who are really into Western's basketball

487
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<v Speaker 2>program don't want to hear this because it makes them sad.

488
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<v Speaker 2>They had about a four to five year window with

489
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<v Speaker 2>Stansbury where they brought in dudes who'd start for Louisville

490
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<v Speaker 2>and some would start for Kentucky. Like they had really

491
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<v Speaker 2>good players there, I mean, and they never made the tournament,

492
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<v Speaker 2>which is crazy. And then the guy comes last year

493
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<v Speaker 2>in his first year there, wins Conference USA, goes to

494
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<v Speaker 2>the tournament, and then leaves and ends up getting the

495
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.160
<v Speaker 2>job at Oklahoma State. So yeah, Rick Stansbury out, but

496
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<v Speaker 2>everybody's out. Penny has no staff. Like again, maybe there

497
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<v Speaker 2>is maybe maybe these guys just you know, it was

498
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<v Speaker 2>a mutual thing. I don't know, but I am I

499
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<v Speaker 2>wrong here, Like this can't be just coincidence. Something had

500
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<v Speaker 2>to have happened to where he just everybody left.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I hate to kind of predict this without

502
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<v Speaker 4>having any context, but I feel like this is I mean,

503
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<v Speaker 4>maybe the beginning of the end already started. But I

504
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<v Speaker 4>feel like this maybe the upcoming final season for Penny

505
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<v Speaker 4>Hardaway if things don't really look.

506
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it should be.

507
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's he's a legend there at Memphis, but

508
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, guys who go from the NBA to being coaches.

509
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who's left to kind of prove that it

510
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<v Speaker 2>can be done and be successful. It's got to be

511
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<v Speaker 2>your boy Woodson, right.

512
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<v Speaker 4>Woodson's the only the last kind of experiment remaining. We

513
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<v Speaker 4>had Juwan Howard and Michigan doing well for a while,

514
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<v Speaker 4>but that fell off harder than.

515
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<v Speaker 3>And that's what happens here.

516
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<v Speaker 2>Like not to compare the two things, but these dudes

517
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<v Speaker 2>who come from the pros, it's not a slow gradual.

518
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<v Speaker 2>It didn't just work out. It falls off a cliff.

519
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<v Speaker 2>I mean pat Jwan Howard had Michigan in the Elite

520
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<v Speaker 2>eight and then he started punching coaches after a game, and.

521
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<v Speaker 3>Then last year they won.

522
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he was just as bad as Kenny Payne.

523
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<v Speaker 2>And he was doing weird stuff, like he just decided

524
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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't going to coach one game. He was gonna

525
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<v Speaker 2>have Phil mar Telly do it because he wanted like

526
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<v Speaker 2>it was just and they suspended a guy only for

527
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<v Speaker 2>road games, remember, yes, like just weird weird things going

528
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<v Speaker 2>on there. So anyways, that that's a big story because

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis is one of those kind of programs that they're

530
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<v Speaker 2>they're in comfort or they're in the Americans. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, and I know basketball it's not as important,

532
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<v Speaker 2>but you know, it is as far as visibility, right Like,

533
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<v Speaker 2>if you want to play, you want to play for

534
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<v Speaker 2>a program where you're on national television, you're playing in

535
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<v Speaker 2>prime time games. I mean, Memphis is at a disadvantage

536
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<v Speaker 2>because of the league that they're in right now. There's

537
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<v Speaker 2>just no way around it. And they're not good enough

538
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<v Speaker 2>to where they can actually get some standalone games like

539
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<v Speaker 2>a Gonzaga can or who else out there is I mean,

540
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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say Yukon, but they're not there. I mean,

541
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<v Speaker 2>they're they're in the Big East and that's a good league.

542
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<v Speaker 2>So if Memphis opens up that that's a that's a

543
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<v Speaker 2>good enough job to wear, Like it wouldn't be a

544
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<v Speaker 2>shocker if a young up and comer or maybe I

545
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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I mean, who would even be in line

546
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<v Speaker 2>for that job. But Memphis has resources to where you

547
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<v Speaker 2>could succeed. They have a lot of tradition in basketball,

548
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<v Speaker 2>they care about hoops, and they've got FedEx in their

549
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<v Speaker 2>backyard in IL, which not only is a potential thing,

550
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<v Speaker 2>Memphis is already getting a certain amount of money every

551
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 2>year from FedEx for men's basketball, women's basketball, and football.

552
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<v Speaker 2>All let's talk NFL. We got the NFL season starting tomorrow.

553
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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait. Excited. Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. I mean, obviously,

554
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<v Speaker 2>I'm all in on the Ravens in this game. Hopefully

555
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<v Speaker 2>they can pull off the upset, but gonna be tough

556
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<v Speaker 2>to do considering you know the opponent. It's the Kansas

557
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<v Speaker 2>City Chiefs. They're coming off a Super Bowl victory, and

558
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<v Speaker 2>we all know what they bring to the table. And

559
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't see that dynasty. If you can,

560
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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call it that, I call it that.

561
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<v Speaker 2>If you don't want to call it that, that's fine.

562
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 2>But I don't see that slowing down anytime soon. But anyways,

563
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<v Speaker 2>this is something the Athletic has done for at least

564
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<v Speaker 2>the past few years. They will talk to different executives

565
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<v Speaker 2>and coaches. So here I'll read it directly from the

566
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<v Speaker 2>Athletic dot Com. Twenty seven coaches and executives were asked

567
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<v Speaker 2>the same seven questions throughout training camp in preseason. They

568
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<v Speaker 2>voted on condition of being anonymous, and some abstain from

569
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<v Speaker 2>certain questions they didn't want to answer because they probably

570
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<v Speaker 2>didn't you know, coaches are paranoid. They probably didn't believe

571
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<v Speaker 2>that it would truly remain anonymous if they gave an answer.

572
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<v Speaker 2>And it may be that they trust this reporter, Jeff Howell,

573
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<v Speaker 2>but they also just don't want them to know their

574
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<v Speaker 2>honest answer, you know what I mean? So who will

575
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<v Speaker 2>win MVP? One guy got eighteen votes and he was

576
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<v Speaker 2>the leader, and there were two guys they got two votes,

577
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>So Patrick Mahomes eighteen votes, Lamar got to, Joe Burrow

578
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<v Speaker 2>got to and then there were there was one vote

579
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<v Speaker 2>for Josh Allen, Matt Stafford, Sequon Barkley, and Aaron Rodgers.

580
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<v Speaker 2>Who the hell voted for Sequon Barksley. It's very random.

581
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<v Speaker 2>You're starting a franchise from scratch. Who are the top

582
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<v Speaker 2>three quarterbacks you'd want? Patrick Mahomes got twenty five votes.

583
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<v Speaker 1>C J.

584
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<v Speaker 2>Stroud came in at number two with sixteen votes, Joe

585
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<v Speaker 2>Burrow got thirteen votes, Josh Allen got ten votes, and

586
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:05.440
<v Speaker 2>then both Caleb Williams and Lamar Jackson got five, and

587
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:07.079
<v Speaker 2>then Brock Purdy got too, which is kind of a

588
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>head scratcher. So again, this is quarterback specifically. Somebody's still

589
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>voting Aaron Rodgers, and I don't know this year for Rodgers,

590
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.279
<v Speaker 2>he's either gonna be like really good in remind us,

591
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, this a hole is still an elite quarterback

592
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<v Speaker 2>because I don't I mean, I don't think I'm alone here.

593
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't like Aaron Rodgers. I find him to be

594
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<v Speaker 2>pretty easy to not like. I felt that way for

595
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 2>a long time, even before he became this weirdo conspiracy

596
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.839
<v Speaker 2>theorist dude who likes to go into the woods and

597
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>hang out, like he just seems like a smug a hole.

598
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<v Speaker 2>But I've always felt like when he's rolling, he's as

599
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.079
<v Speaker 2>good as any quarterback I've seen in the last twenty years.

600
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<v Speaker 2>I know he didn't have the credentials the resume that

601
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<v Speaker 2>you see with somebody like a Tom Brady or even

602
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 2>a Pat Mahomes, But like Aaron Rodgers, he's never shown

603
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>us that he's not really really really good. It's just

604
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>he got hurt as soon as he hit the field

605
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>last year for the Jets. All Right, the other questions,

606
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<v Speaker 2>who's the league's best offensive player that's not a quarterback?

607
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Twenty six votes came in because this is one of

608
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<v Speaker 2>those questions that for some reason, one person did not

609
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<v Speaker 2>want to answer. Pretty competitive here, best offensive player in

610
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<v Speaker 2>the NFL that's not a quarterback? The leader with nine

611
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 2>votes was Justin Jefferson. Eight votes for Tyreek Hill and

612
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>seven votes for Christian McCaffrey, one for Chase and Jamar Chason,

613
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 2>then one for Trent Williams.

614
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<v Speaker 3>I could see that.

615
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I'd probably still take Tyreek Hill as the

616
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<v Speaker 2>best offensive player that's not a quarterback. But hey, Justin

617
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Jefferson's prett damn good too. Who's the league's best defensive player?

618
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<v Speaker 2>Twenty six votes? Again, somebody didn't want to answer. Miles

619
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<v Speaker 2>Garrett had thirteen votes. The runaway winner, Micah Parsons had

620
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 2>five votes in second place, and then you had Nick

621
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<v Speaker 2>Bosa with three.

622
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:52.759
<v Speaker 3>TJ Watt got.

623
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<v Speaker 2>To and then there were one vote apiece for Kyle

624
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Hamilton other Ravens, Max Crosby of the Raiders, and Chris

625
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Jones of the Chiefs. So again, Miles Garrett, the reigning

626
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<v Speaker 2>defensive Player of the Year, took the vote by a landslide,

627
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<v Speaker 2>which QB will deliver the best rookie season big time

628
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<v Speaker 2>winner here, Kayleb Williams got eighteen votes. Jayden Daniels with five,

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<v Speaker 2>and bow Knicks with three. I think bo Nicks has

630
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<v Speaker 2>a chance to be pretty good as a rookie. I

631
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he'll, you know, take the Broncos deep

632
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<v Speaker 2>into the postseason or anything, but I think I think

633
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<v Speaker 2>bow Knicks is it is pretty damn good. And I

634
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<v Speaker 2>don't think Jayden Daniels will have a great NFL career.

635
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm wrong, but I just I kind of feel

636
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<v Speaker 2>like he was not a flash in the pan. But

637
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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know. I just to me, he

638
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem like a franchise quarterback. But I've been wrong

639
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 2>about a lot of things. Maybe I'm wrong.

640
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<v Speaker 3>About that too.

641
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<v Speaker 2>All Right, name three teams that'll surprise you in a

642
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<v Speaker 2>good way. Twenty one votes came in for this, so

643
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<v Speaker 2>these are good surprises with seven votes. The surprise team

644
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 2>pleasantly surprising team I should say here with how they

645
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<v Speaker 2>framed it the Arizona Cardinals, which I wouldn't be shocked

646
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 2>if that's the case. They got a good coach, and

647
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Kyler Murray, despite him being undersized and the

648
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 2>weird couple years where the Cardinals seemed to be legitimately

649
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 2>concerned that he played video games too much like outside

650
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>of that, like he's shown to to I think, be

651
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 2>a really good quarterback in the NFL. So the Cardinals

652
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 2>are the leader as far as the most votes as

653
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<v Speaker 2>far as being a pleasant surprise. And then six votes

654
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>came in right behind the Cardinals for the Falcons and

655
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 2>the Seahawks, and then the Colts and the Chargers got

656
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>five votes. I hope whoever said the Colts are going

657
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<v Speaker 2>to be a pleasant surprise, I hope you guys are right.

658
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I happen to think we're gonna stink really, really bad

659
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 2>this year. And then the three teams that are gonna

660
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<v Speaker 2>surprise in a negative way, meaning these are teams that

661
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:47.960
<v Speaker 2>people probably have expectations for, but these twenty seven coaches

662
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.160
<v Speaker 2>and executives within the NFL don't think they're going to

663
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<v Speaker 2>be good this year, or at least not live up

664
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<v Speaker 2>to that standard. The leader was the Dallas Cowboys with

665
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>nine coming in behind them as the Dolphins at number seven,

666
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 2>and then in third place it was a tie with

667
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<v Speaker 2>the Buffalo Bills and the New York Jets. So again

668
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<v Speaker 2>I find that to be interesting because again not to

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<v Speaker 2>say that you know your opinion if you're not an

670
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>NFL executive or a coach, doesn't matter, because you know,

671
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 2>you can have your opinion and heck, you could be

672
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>you could be you could disagree with these guys who

673
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<v Speaker 2>are in the you know, in the uh the league

674
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<v Speaker 2>as they you know, the shield as Jim Rome calls it,

675
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 2>but you could you know, you could still be right

676
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<v Speaker 2>and may be wrong.

677
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 3>You never know.

678
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<v Speaker 2>We're all just kind of guessing when it comes to

679
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>some of this stuff. But I do find it interesting

680
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<v Speaker 2>to hear what those on the inside kind of, you know.

681
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<v Speaker 2>The biggest surprise to me was to see that when

682
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<v Speaker 2>it comes to starting, you know, a quarterback starting a

683
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<v Speaker 2>franchise from scratch with a quarterback that Straub came in

684
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<v Speaker 2>at number two. I mean, yeah, he's he looked really

685
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>good in his rookie season. But I mean Joe Burrow,

686
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Josh Adam, Lamar Jackson, those guys have proven to be

687
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>pretty damn good too. All right, Uh, let's see here. Yeah,

688
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>and this is this is really telling one guy who

689
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<v Speaker 2>gets talked about a lot it has never really done

690
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>much to I think prove that he's nearly he's anywhere

691
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 2>close to his good and has accomplished as some people

692
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<v Speaker 2>view him Justin Herbert. Only one vote came in for

693
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<v Speaker 2>Justin Herbert as far as who you'd want to start

694
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<v Speaker 2>a franchise with, which I think that's pretty telling. I

695
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<v Speaker 2>think those in the NFL also probably view him as

696
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>being pretty overrated. All right, quick break, we'll come back

697
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<v Speaker 2>on the other side. We still got a couple of

698
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<v Speaker 2>days where we get to the college football action. But

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<v Speaker 2>John and I have already made some wagers, at least

700
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<v Speaker 2>John has. I've yet to pull the trigger, but I

701
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<v Speaker 2>got some I got some games I'm very, very very

702
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<v Speaker 2>interested in as far as making a waitress, so we'll

703
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<v Speaker 2>get to that as we wrap it up here. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, don't go anywhere, keep it locked on

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven to ninety. All right, not a lot

706
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<v Speaker 2>of time left here in the show, so let's just

707
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 2>get right to it. We'll talk more about what we're

708
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<v Speaker 2>going to be interested in watching due to wagering. We

709
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<v Speaker 2>got the rest of the week to do it. But John,

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<v Speaker 2>what pick of your you know? I know you got

711
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<v Speaker 2>a parlay, but like, of all the legs and the

712
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.119
<v Speaker 2>multiple parlays you're building, which one is the one you're

713
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<v Speaker 2>most confident in?

714
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<v Speaker 4>The one I'm most confident in is Iowa to cover.

715
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<v Speaker 4>I believe it's still a two and a half point

716
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<v Speaker 4>spread against Iowa State. Iowa's had the cyclone's number for

717
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 4>the past I think seven out of the last eight years,

718
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.239
<v Speaker 4>something along those lines. And if they have an offense

719
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<v Speaker 4>that is anything like they put up last week, I

720
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<v Speaker 4>think they'll take care of Iowa State at home, by

721
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<v Speaker 4>the way, pretty easily. And Iowa State struggled last week

722
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<v Speaker 4>with North Dakota for a while before beating him twenty

723
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<v Speaker 4>one to three, So I think this is an easy one.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Campbell should have left when he had the chance, right, yes,

725
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know how sustainable football success is at

726
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Iowa State. Whenever in il is clearly a big factor, right,

727
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they don't have a lot of history in

728
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 2>fact before Matt Campbell. When you're talking about Power five

729
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 2>programs that like historically just have had the least relevance

730
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>over many, many decades. You're talking Vandy, you're talking Duke,

731
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<v Speaker 2>you're talking Kentucky, talking Indiana, you're talking Indiana, you're talking Iowa.

732
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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the reality of it. So you know,

733
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if I'm going to touch that one.

734
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<v Speaker 2>But if I did, it would be it would be

735
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 2>exactly that, just because I was clearly better. And it

736
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>is a rivalry, but that rivalry even in game like

737
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<v Speaker 2>Iowa was dominated, but they've won some weird games in

738
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>that one too, I feel like, And there was the

739
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>random year where Iowa State was actually really good and

740
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<v Speaker 2>still end up losing to them. I feel like, So

741
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<v Speaker 2>for me, I'm sure there's some emotion involved here, which

742
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>is never what you want to do, right. Don't bet

743
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>with your emotions, bet with your brain, right, even if

744
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.039
<v Speaker 2>you know it's a result you don't want, but you

745
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 2>feel like the money's there. You still got to trust

746
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>what you think is going to is going to happen,

747
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>regardless of how it makes you feel.

748
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<v Speaker 3>But the hell with that?

749
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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh plus two and a half against Cincinnati, I mean

750
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Saderfield's team. I mean they gave up over four hundred

751
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 2>yards to.

752
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Who was it?

753
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean a bum team? I mean who they play?

754
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Was it pm I or something? So Pittsburgh, you know,

755
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>they've won fifty five to twenty four against Kent State.

756
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I just think I think Cincinnati is gonna stink out

757
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>loud this year, and I think Pittsburgh is you know,

758
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>getting two and a half. I mean, I think they

759
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 2>win this one. I'm gonna take them to win. Money line,

760
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 2>And who is it that Cincinnati played last week? Because

761
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>it's alarming if you're a Cincinnati fan and Sadderfield I'm

762
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>sure acted like, Yeah, they probably threw a party in

763
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the locker room because that's what he does, right, even

764
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 2>if they beat an FCS team by two, he'll party

765
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 2>in the locker room.

766
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 3>Because that was his culture.

767
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they beat Towson thirty eight to twenty, gave up

768
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:32.599
<v Speaker 2>four hundred yards to Towson. Again, clearly some emotion involved here,

769
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 2>but like, I also think this is where the money's

770
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna be, Pittsburgh money line, baby, go acc right. All right,

771
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<v Speaker 2>we're out of time, you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy your evening.

773
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>We're back at it tomorrow right here, as the NFL

774
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<v Speaker 2>season get started.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah,