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Speaker 2: Sense and drugs, and then the revelation at the end

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of the all.

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Speaker 3: Reality is just one, it is being itself.

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Speaker 1: Look within you that that's the great us. By the way,

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to be one of the misty eye.

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Speaker 3: You study for like twenty.

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Speaker 1: Th years, what if it's like a giant.

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Speaker 2: It's like an ancient super scam right, like you studied

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for twenty thirty years. And then the mystery the same

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ship that just says.

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Speaker 3: You, old letter, it's amazing, just like a whoa, bro,

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Just just look in the mirror, Bro, just look in

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the mirror. You're literally everything. You are everything, You are everything.

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So that's uh it got you were Johnny Utah? Are

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you kidding me? Well, you don't even know his name,

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Johnny Utah. Yeah, except it was what literally me said

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to literally me, because I'm everything and everyone, I'm everything

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and everyone based and you're everything and everyone cringed, And

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I just manifested you to I only manifested you to

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make Yeah, I only I only manifested you so that

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I could remind myself of my base. The cosmic baseness

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is what they call me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm gonna I'm invoking Ali against you.

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Speaker 1: So Ali will strike you from the heavens.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have like Iranian sempters raining down on you

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from the heavens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I would have manifested that too, and I'll

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just unmanifest it so you can't do anything about it.

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Bye bye, unmanifested that. All right, We're good now, Jay's unmuted.

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Jay was just preaching to me from his his new

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his new books. He's kind of workings where he's running

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his script for the new cult he's building. It's going

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to be based on the works of Gerchief, which a

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little with a little bit of Terrence McKenna. I was.

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I was pitching him on how he has to use

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our newly discovered Terrence McKenna psychological manipulation technique of convincing

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the women that all the men in the world are

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toxic and that we need to get rid of them

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in order that we can be the only men, so

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that we can be in charge of of course, lovingly

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and philanthropically helping to service all of.

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Speaker 1: The lazers roundabout way of spitting game.

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Speaker 2: But I'll give Terrence McKenna some credit for that. He's

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got that death cult game going on, right, He's like

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he's spitting game and he realizes that I can just

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get rid of all the men.

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Speaker 1: Bro it's me and like a zillion women.

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Speaker 4: All of the people that make me feel uncomfortable should

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not exist because I am the center of the I

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am in the center of the eye of the third

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eye of the cosmic Buddha in the universe.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, obviously, Yeah, I'm here evident until now and

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I do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's show self evident. I'm here with Jay Dire

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a K A body, a K A Johnny Utah a

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k A young boomer you all you all know Jay Dyer,

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right you titled titles, many titles. He is a He's

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a bondologist. He's a James Bondologist. He did his seventh

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or eighth PhD. I forget which one in in Bondology

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under greg correct, Yeah, under doctor Gregor. In Advanced bond Studies.

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Also uh, Bond Girl Studies, which is now bond Women's Studies.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you want to know what's funny about that? Is?

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I kid you not?

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Speaker 2: Because I'd buy a whole lot of Bondology studies. You

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can as you can imagine, as we get more and

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more contemporary. The Bond studies turn in more and more

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into queer theory and Bond male toxic masculinity and Bond

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that's all.

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Speaker 3: About for sure. Well you see you see this in

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the media dialogue concerning the new Bond films when they

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come out. That's always a part of it of like

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when are we going to get a black man? Like

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when are we going to get a black woman? And

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the last one I didn't see the last one, did

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you like the most recent one that was released.

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an okay film, but I mean the whole purpose of

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No Time to Die was like, hey, old white man

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in your colonization, it's time for you to die.

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Speaker 1: Bro. That was that's for me.

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Speaker 3: So as Terrence McKenna wrote that, And I will be

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in charge of all the Bond ladies and they will

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be be badonka dunk wielding black ladies.

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Speaker 3: And his poly poly coo yeah is what was it

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what I was gonna say. It seemed it seemed like

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the dialogue was all about well, out with you and

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out with the old and with the new we need

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a we need a black woman to be.

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Speaker 2: The actually, yeah, the lead female character in I mean

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they had two or three Bond girls as usual in

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in the the new one. Who's that Latino chick that

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everybody thinks is hot? You know, the girl from Blake

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Brounder twenty forty nine. She's the operating system girlfriend of Yeah,

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literally mean's girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: And there she and a Dharmas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's her, she's in it.

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Speaker 2: But then the other Bond girl is the black girl

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that you're talking about, and she's the new double oh

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seven in the story. So yeah, story, long story short,

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Bond dies and then it passes on to baysed Black women.

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Speaker 3: Is she even? Does she have herdeeming qualities in the field? Like,

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Speaker 2: Is she she's sassy black woman?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? They made her sassy? She's English?

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Speaker 1: She talked ship to James Bond.

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Speaker 3: But she's English, or she like an American.

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Speaker 1: She's British, or she's from Botswana.

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Speaker 2: He goes to it's there's a nod to GoldenEye, which

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is Ian Fleming's estate in Jamaica.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bond, my mom's been to It's pretty cool. Uh

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a nod to that, and then that's where he meets her.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember she's Jamaican or British. I think she's British.

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Speaker 3: Would be so funny if she was Jamaican. But she

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would like, big up, big up to the James Bond. James,

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but why you be up?

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Speaker 5: She was like a roster assassin, James Bomb, James Bumber

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clad more like a James Bomber clap.

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Speaker 2: We say, me only killing the people that Barbylon tells

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me to kill.

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Speaker 1: Even though I'm working for Babylon, I'm also gonna fight it.

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Speaker 5: We got you call him James Bond, We call him

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James Barbylon Man, James b Bobbylon system. They keep James Bond.

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They make James Bond and white devil, a bald head.

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You're the bald head, white devil. James Bond were the

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true black, were the true black queen of this place.

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Speaker 3: Queen Elizabeth, she really a black woman. She's black exactly.

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Speaker 2: Was sharing the old the classic icons or black people

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stuff today.

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Speaker 5: Look at it.

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Speaker 3: What that is? That's a black man? Yeah, yeah, wool

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and here wool hair is wooly. Who has wooly hair? Dude,

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He's like two steps away from like, you're gonna be

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my slave, Jay Die, you can be my slave in

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the after life, white devil, will we take over you

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be my slave? Kiss my boot, Jay Dayah pledge allegiance

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to the to the black Hebrew is reeal lights.

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Speaker 2: The one is that you can tell like his extreme

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arrogance is what keeps him so stupid.

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Speaker 1: He's like the greatest dunning Krigger of all time.

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Speaker 3: I love it a character. Yeah, guys, we got a

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fun show tonight. Uh, thanks for coming on, Jay, I

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always appreciate it. The biggest figgots always demand this. They

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demand the man these more, almost more than anything. So

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we gotta do some more movie reviews soon too. And

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I'd like to talk about words more.

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Speaker 2: Than words, to show you how you that's your love

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Speaker 1: You remember extreme? What what.

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Speaker 3: Say? It's just like one of these eighteen thirty songs

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from your childhood, Jay, more than words.

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Speaker 1: You don't know that song. I don't know. Oh my goodness,

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you're a freaking millennial. You know that song?

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Speaker 3: Actually, no, who is that is? Like ninety eight degrees

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or something? Is that?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: You have to I literally don't do you.

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Speaker 2: Know all these nineties songs and then whenever I start

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singing them, you're like, never heard of it?

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Speaker 3: Just gaslight you into thinking acting no. It's like an

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automatic reaction. It's you know, my my as the as

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the what was that the sex positive psychotherapist we saw

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last night? I was a full body no when Jay

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thinks full body no, no, I legit have never heard

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that song though.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it only has almost one billion views.

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Extreme more than words those two long haired nineties dudes.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know, No, Jay, I was four and

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Speaker 2: Probably many of the audience will know more than words

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Speaker 1: I guarantee that.

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Speaker 3: Extreme. That's wait. No, I would I I wouldn't remember

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ninety seven I'd remember a lot of the pop songs.

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Speaker 3: It was before my before my days, my friend, that

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was my you know, I was, I was. I was

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watching Sesame Street freaking What else was I I don't

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know what I was consuming media, I was consuming what.

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Speaker 1: I will assure you that if you you you will

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probably like that song. I don't care for it, but

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this song suck. But you'll probably know this

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song is awful and everybody that likes it sucks, so

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you'd probably really like it.

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Speaker 1: You're the only thing you would say.

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Speaker 3: This is exactly what the type of thing that you

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would say. Well, so, on orders from my our KGB handlers,

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we are here to discuss the recent revelations and how

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these kind of tie in with historical use of mass

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media for psychological operations, cultural engineering, steering people socially politically.

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And you know who better to have on and talk

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about some of this stuff than mister j Di er

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KGB sorcerer himself. So yeah, we got did you get

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a chance to read any of that indictment? Uh, the

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indictment which was not actually levied at Tim Poole or

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even Lauren chen The The indictment was of two people,

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two Russians, that were going under pseudonyms and allegedly funding

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that YouTube channel called Tenant Meetia. The funded this YouTube

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channel called Tenant Media and apparently allegedly the owners of

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these companies of this company. I think there were actually

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two companies that were being used to push money into

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this YouTube channel, which actually when you look at the

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were involved with it. Tim Poole came out today. He

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talked to Ben Shapiro. He's one of Jay's heroes.

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Speaker 1: He's like, Jay models his whole I call it Ben.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, He's Jay's north star, so he's he really looks

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up to him, and so he was. He talked to

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Ben's Shapiro, a shape hero as Jay calls him, and

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he said that, well, all we did was actually licensed

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content that we already had on our Culture War channel

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that would then be also on the Tenet Media channel,

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and they got a certain amount of money for it,

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which seems like for what Tim Poole's doing and for

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what his operation has is scaled at, it was kind

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of minuscule. From what Pool said, It's like it was

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kind of inconsequential money now to somebody like not somebody

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like Jay, because Jay, I mean, I mean, look at

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look at the guy. Look at the shirt I mean

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he's wearing. I mean that that shirt. Yeah, look at

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that Rolex he's got, Like we don't you know, look

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Speaker 1: Is the AOC model of a Movado That.

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Speaker 3: Is not a Rolex AOC fud Look it up.

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Speaker 1: I have the same watch as AOC. I'm proud of that.

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I'm very proud of that.

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Speaker 3: I'm proud of you as well, my friend. So, yeah,

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it was. It was inconsequential amount of money for for

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mister Tim Poole. But allegedly the owners of the company

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that were funding this YouTube channel, Tenant Media, were getting

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Russian money. We're told this is Russian money, and apparently

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this is enough to make somebody a Russian agent. Right,

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So if you if you got money from any Russian

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for any business dealing at all, apparently you're you're now

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a Russian agent. We've got people jumping all over the

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anybody who's got an ax to grind with Tim Poole

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And I'm not here like trying to like show for

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Tim Poole. Nor am I here to hate on Tim Poole,

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Vousch Hassan and Destiny saying oh he knew it. He's

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a Russian agent. He's a Russian agent. We gotta you know,

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we got to back Ukraine. You know Slava Ucraney, you

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know Glori. It is reel. So this is this is

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the narrative that's coming out now, there's this DJ indictment

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that is causing a big hullabaloo, and we've got essentially

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a new Russia Gate. So I think that's that's a

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basic outline of it. Most of the details that I'm

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familiar with. I was looking at the indictment earlier. It

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seems rather tame. There are some d ms from Discord

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included there which the media is trying to portray this

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as all they're openly shilling for Russia, and uh yeah,

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await for more information to come out and see what.

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I'd like to see what Chen has to say, what

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Lauren Chen has to say. Everybody, not everybody, but a

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lot of people are jumping all over and acting like, oh, well,

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she's clearly a subversive agent. And the people who are

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on the some of the people who are on the right,

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are saying, well, she was put in there to create

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division right before the election and try and sway certain

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voters using single issue wedges to not vote at all

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and abstain from voting for Trump, which would then in

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turn benefit Kamala. The people like Vausch and all these

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other vous destiny Hassan MSNBCCNN type people are saying, well,

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this is clearly showing that everybody on the right wing,

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anybody that opposes us sending seven trillion dollars to Ukraine

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every month, and anybody who's vaguely critical of the actions

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of Israel, these people are all Russian shills, and the

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Russians are directly paying them in order to get Donald

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Trump elected. It's a whole new Russian gate thing. So

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those that's a basic overview of the narrative. There anything

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I forgot there, Jay, Then you've seen about this.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that covers the overview. Do you want

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to get into the specifics or do anything else?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Either way. I mean, as this whole case is

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somewhat interesting, but I think it really illustrates kind of

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the broader mechanisms for discrediting, creating disunity among certain political fronts,

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and you know, swaying the behavioral people.

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Speaker 2: Let's think back to say ten twelve years ago, maybe

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even fifteen years ago, in terms of what was allowed

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for American media. If there was this serious threat, why

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did the West? Why did the US allow RT to

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operate so freely and so widely, giving it a massive

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platform on YouTube for many many years, if and everyone

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knew that RT was Russian state media. I mean, it's

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almost like this was allowed to happen and then they

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kind of let it sit there, and they let the

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influence happen as far as they perhaps wanted it to

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be there so that then they could crack down on

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it and then use it as an excuse. Because if

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you remember, over the years, everybody from Larry King, Larry

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King had a show, You had people who left CNN

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who would go to the anchors at RT. You people

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leave our t to go be in American pro American media.

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Speaker 1: I can think of.

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Speaker 2: Tons and tons of Alice Jones has been on our

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team many times over the years. So this was never

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an issue until it became politically useful to say when

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they concoct the whole Russian hoax narrative in twenty sixteen

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that Donald Trump had been at some point compromised. And

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we know that the Steele dossier was drawn up by

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former British intelligence people as a complete hoax.

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Speaker 1: It was entirely fabricated.

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Speaker 2: The original story actually related to a place, a hotel

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that the Obamas had stayed in. Now that doesn't mean

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that Obama was involved in some peace situation, but I

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wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well you were. I remember. The details were

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incredibly degenerate, right, It was kind of it was like

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this this crazy, you know, twisted fan fiction, highly pornographic

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of Trump doing gross stuff in a hotel room with

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some with some ladies of the night.

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Speaker 2: And this was admitted eventually to be wholly concocted by

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Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence operator who was obviously

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just working with Democrats in the US to concoct this

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kind of a nonsense story.

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Speaker 1: And that goes back to the shows.

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Speaker 3: The international collusion there. I mean, so you've got you've

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got collusion of British intelligence, you know, us the law enforcement.

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So now that's not foreign interference though, right when you've

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got British agents, that's fine. These are our friends, they

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are you know, we've got our greatest ally who's also

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you know, beyond reproach as far as funding media operations.

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being that this is being selectively used for selective outrage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that will tie in, uh to the espionage

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side of this, because the entire apparatus of the OS

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S and c A are set up by British intelligence operators.

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It's set up by literally Ian Fleming, Bill Donovan, Noel Coward,

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the playwright, and other people who came over WILLIAMS. Stevenson

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from Canadian British intelligence who came and basically told Bill

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Donovan how to set up this British version of an

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intelligence apparatus.

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Speaker 1: So again, the CIA has.

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Speaker 2: This long standing special relationship as it's called, with the UK.

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But again, like you said, that's not foreign interference when

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other nation states that you can think of in the

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Middle East, and I don't just mean Israel, the Arab

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States also the Saudis promote, for example, Islam at a

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very wide scale in America and on social media. That's

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not for an different Remember all the pay to play

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scandals for Hillary's campaign. It came out that all these dictators,

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Katari dictators, basically paying into Hillary's campaign. And then when

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Hillary took the office, she was going to divide up

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whatever country she went into, destroy and you know, piece

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millhand it out to these these various Arab states.

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Speaker 3: So you know, this is like there are our allies.

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Speaker 2: So that's okay, right, okay, So if you're an ally,

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then it's fine. You can totally, you know, interfere in

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the elections all you want.

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Speaker 1: And that's the point.

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Speaker 3: That's that's real. Hold on, let me, let me reinforcing

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democracy exactly, reinforcing the democracy.

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Speaker 2: But wait a minute, Saudi Araby, I'm pretty sure isn't

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a democracy.

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Speaker 1: But you know, like, wait a.

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Speaker 3: Minute, well I thought its racist. All right, let's we

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don't have to be racist about it. I mean there's

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cultural differences and yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so those are the good Muslims, the good Salafi

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Muslims like Jake and Daniel Ober and Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: They're the good guys.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, they helped fight the Soviets in nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: Even though they're also the bad guys in World Trades

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Center nineteen ninety three in the Big nine event, they're

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also still the good guys at the same time, right,

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help me understand that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think, Uh, I don't even know what the

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excuse would be there, like a high level of cognitive

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dissonance there. I can't even I can't even.

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Speaker 2: Role plays right because the Goldstein is like a hero,

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but then he's a terror man and then he's a.

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Speaker 3: Course, It's like, of course, yeah, I've bin Laden was

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very much, very much that character. Mh.

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Speaker 1: I got way too ahead of that.

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Speaker 3: It was good. That's It's all actually very relevant here.

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I mean you mentioned the Saudist I mean what about Well, now,

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what we're seeing with this setup of what we're supposed

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to be. First of all, we're supposed to believe that

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we're mortal enemies with Russia, right Russia. We're basically there's

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this underlying assumption and this kind of presupposition that we're

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basically at war with Russia, like as like the whole

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of the West is at war with Russia. Ukraine, you know,

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we're acting almost like Ukraine. It's like some sort of

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a vassal state of the US and name Block. So

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I think that's pretty interesting. And then also he got

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the son of the sitting president involved in massive billions

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and billions of dollars of business deals with Barismo over

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there in Ukraine. You've got Biden bragging before the Council

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and was a Council on Foreign Relations, and that infamous

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clip where he brags about uh saying he's gonna stop

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this IMF money from getting to Ukraine unless they fire

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the prosecutor. That was kind of sniffing up the bomb

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of of of Hunter concerning the sketchy stuff that they

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were involved in. But yeah, in front of camera fired. Yeah.

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So but no, this is not collusion. This has nothing.

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You know, that's that's reinforcing.

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Speaker 1: Nothing going on. Why would you think there's something going

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on there.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that's not I'm saying this is normal,

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this is good, it's clearly fine. He also his his

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dealings with China, with Jina, you know, I mean the

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business dealings with China that are being done with the

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back room stuff with certain political families, you know, the

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sitting president and his son as well. So there's this

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stuff is supposed to be overlooked, I mean a gain.

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We're also supposed to pretend that China is somehow mortal

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enemy of the US, and that China, you know, there's

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this imminent war with China that's been kind of the

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neocons have been pushing for this idea for a long time.

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Speaker 1: But you'll know that this is kind there once again

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the DNC.

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Speaker 2: And you know, going through Whitney Webb's book that the

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chapter on the relationship of the DNC going back to

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the Clinton period in what many people have forgotten or

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if they're too young, they don't know about Chinagate. Chinagate

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was a big deal in the nineties during Clinton administration

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because all these scandals were coming out that at that time,

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the Clinton circles had already well established themselves with Chinese spies,

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Chinese operatives, Chinese people coming over here and pushing scams,

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ponze scenes, all this kind of stuff. And I remember

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at the time there was like neo con outlets and

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conservative outlets that didn't like the Clinton's talking about how.

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's transferring our technology to China and sending it,

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and which I don't doubt.

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Speaker 2: But when you really dig into it, if you read

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that chapter in Whitney's book about the DNC in China

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and China Gate, now that a lot of this makes

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sense because it's the same situation with the what you

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see with Hunter and all these people in not just China,

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but also, like you said, in Ukraine with Barisma.

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Speaker 3: So it's a really good boat man. And then when

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you look at the cultural the downstream cultural engineering effects

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of this, I mean, mass media didn't really cover China

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Gate to a great extent, right, I mean, there wasn't

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much criticism of the Clinton's.

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Speaker 2: Actually no, I mean it's just different because it's hard

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to say. I don't remember I remember it being discussed

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on like CNN stuff. And when I went and looked

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this up the other day, I did find old CNN.

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Speaker 1: Articles of old BBC articles. But like in nineteen ninety seven,

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eight ninety nine, like not many people were reading the internet.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Watergate. The whole Watergate situation was not Watergate?

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What was the other one? Not Watergate? With that hotel property.

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Speaker 1: Are you talking about the Clinton property scandals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there was a they had, there was a

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gate behind it. It was think about it, I'm thinking watergate,

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not Watergate.

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Speaker 2: I thought that that had to do with like Clinton

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in Arkansas, land deals.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, land deals and there was some resort type

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thing or hotel there. It was there was that took

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up a lot more media attention. And then I don't

471
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know if that was at the same time as China Gate,

472
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but that that was a big deal in the nineties.

473
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:46,920
And it's you know, sometimes these little scandals that actually

474
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,680
get focused on are kind of just there to distract

475
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,440
you from things that you maybe would be a big deal,

476
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,200
right like when you think about China Gate and the

477
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,960
repercussions of this for the American middle class with Walmart, uh,

478
00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:03,319
the the massive explosion of Walmart, Costco, Sam's Club, all

479
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,880
these things with huge imports from China with very low

480
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,640
import duties, the offshore manufacturing that really started kickstarting NAFTA,

481
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:16,640
the NAFTA Super Highway, stuff that they were trying to

482
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,599
get pushed through. This had huge effects of the US

483
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,200
economy on the way of life in America and just.

484
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,759
Speaker 2: Right trying it was to be really precise, the nineteen

485
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:33,400
ninety six campaign finance controversy that China was giving money

486
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,720
to the Clintons to help get them elected.

487
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,559
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about like scandal.

488
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: That's crazy, right, that's insane, But it makes a lot

489
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,559
of sense when you see like what happened with the

490
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:47,279
whole NAFTA deal and what a shift we saw on

491
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:51,119
the culture. I mean, you wouldn't have had you wouldn't

492
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,759
have you probably wouldn't have never, would have never had

493
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:56,319
the opioid crisis. You know, if it weren't for Afghanistan

494
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,200
obviously in the Iraq War, but.

495
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:00,799
Speaker 1: Also White Waters were wide.

496
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:05,799
Speaker 3: Water, not Watergate, Whitewater, the Whitewater scandal. But yeah, you

497
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:08,599
wouldn't have had the opioid epidemic and it wouldn't have

498
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:12,559
been nearly as bad if the American jobs hadn't been

499
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,519
thrown off shore during the nineties, right.

500
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Speaker 2: So I mean, now this was a time, this was

501
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,039
to the period for those that remember. And I was

502
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:26,000
talking to doctor James Lindsay about this at the event

503
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:27,799
that was at He had a really good insight on this.

504
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,799
Speaker 1: He said, if you think.

505
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,319
Speaker 2: About it, this was the time when you remember in

506
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,440
the nineteen eighties. If you go to Walmart, the big

507
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:39,000
sales pitch that they had was by American, made in America.

508
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,279
Speaker 1: It's all American.

509
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: And this is right before when the Clintons come in,

510
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,640
then it all switches to everything goes over to China.

511
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:51,200
There's a book written by this published by the Spotlight.

512
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,119
I forget the name of the book, but that's who

513
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:59,079
did the Builderberg coverage, and they did the guy.

514
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,279
Speaker 1: That wrote the JFK.

515
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: But Michael Collins Piper alleging that a certain medieval, certain

516
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,039
Middle East nation was behind the assassination of JFK. That's

517
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:09,920
a very famous book.

518
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: So final what is it? What was it book?

519
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

520
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:16,039
Speaker 3: I remember Grandma got me that book and like the.

521
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: Same publisher, they did a book about how the deals

522
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,960
were set up to senttlement manufacturing over to China, specifically for.

523
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,559
Speaker 1: The Waltons and Walmart.

524
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:29,839
Speaker 2: So this this, I think that the Clinton period is

525
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:30,920
probably a key period for that.

526
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crucial. And look how much our lives have

527
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,599
changed because of this. I mean we've you wouldn't have

528
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,279
the world yet today. So many of the issues that

529
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:43,000
we have economically in the US and the West direct

530
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,559
repercussions of this and these same you know, these same

531
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,039
people are still wielding power to a great extent.

532
00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to bring it back to the sort of

533
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,440
inconsistency of this, I think, as like I said on Twitter,

534
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:01,839
when it comes to foreign nations and attempts to buy media,

535
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:04,519
influence and to have people, this is well known. Remember

536
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:09,319
some years ago there's some kerfluffle about Al Jazero.

537
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,519
Speaker 1: Al Jazeera is Arab owned, and they're pushing you know,

538
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,880
Arab pro Arab, pro Muslim, anti Israel rhetoric in the West.

539
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,920
So when it's convenient, it's a necessary thing to fuss about, right,

540
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,839
you follow me, It's absolutely this is well known. Right,

541
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,680
other medieval I keep saying medieval.

542
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: Other Middle Eastern countries do the exact same thing by

543
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,200
influencing media people in America.

544
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,799
Speaker 3: Right right, Well, you know the APAC lobby like this,

545
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,319
I mean all this, the Israel lobby is huge. But

546
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480
you know that's that's okay, they're an ally, right, But

547
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:50,000
clearly when with these other countries. You know, China is

548
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:52,880
okay as long as it's benefiting you know, some of

549
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,720
the people that are powerful within the US government. But

550
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:59,240
China is not okay in other context, when it's convenient

551
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,279
to make them the book man that we must you know,

552
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:07,680
prepare for war with and build up our surveillance state domestically. No,

553
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:09,920
it's good. It's completely inconsistent in every way.

554
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:12,119
Speaker 2: Exactly, so that what that shows you is that it's

555
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,359
rolled out when it's politically useful, because at any point,

556
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:20,599
like they could have said a long time ago, these

557
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,880
are foreign influence agents, right, and we can't have if

558
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,519
we and if we can't have that, then we're not

559
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:31,160
going to have Chinese foreign influence. We shouldn't have, you know,

560
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:35,799
pick any other what's the They went after press TV

561
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
too some years back, because that's Iran, right, Yeah, so

562
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,200
they really just sort of pick the ones that they

563
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,799
allow for a while and then decide, oh, now you're

564
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,480
a problem, so we're gonna ban press TV. We're gonna

565
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,839
ban our tea, but no banning of other opera other

566
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
entities that are obviously hostile to the West.

567
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: Again, not not just even talk about you even talk

568
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,920
about their influence. And then you're you know, you're you're

569
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,920
a bad man. You want to you want to literally

570
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,240
bring about the death and destruction of entire people, your

571
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:14,119
you're racist, your anti you know, you're anti Amish, uh,

572
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:16,119
I mean it's very inconsistent.

573
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,039
Speaker 2: Just think about the mainstream narrative. Let's just go with

574
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:19,920
mainstream narratives.

575
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Right, So the Big Nine event was Saudi.

576
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,079
Speaker 3: This has been admitted, right, Well, the Saudis that were

577
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,480
dancing on the brit.

578
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I'm saying that just the mainstream exactly know,

579
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:34,680
we know those other narratives and background stuff, But I'm saying,

580
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,920
let's just go with what the mainstream has admitted about

581
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:42,279
the Saudi hijackers, right being involved in that event. Wouldn't

582
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:46,119
that constitute those people in that ideology being contrary to

583
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,599
American values into the West and yet.

584
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: A few bad apples, There are a few bad apples.

585
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: There's no complaints right about you know, Islam being pushed.

586
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: Everywhere in America.

587
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,039
Speaker 2: So any way, but yeah, the excuse, of course will be,

588
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:04,079
as you said, well that they're allies right now.

589
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, what about maybe the neocons are down with

590
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,720
the Saudis now too. I mean that, well, Saudi Arabia

591
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,920
has made a major shift in their policy and they've

592
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,079
been very you know, they've been super soft and really

593
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,319
buddied up with, you know, with our greatest ally, so

594
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,279
I guess you know there there there seems to have

595
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:23,559
been a major shift there. I don't really know the

596
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,119
ins and outs of what goes on in Saudi Arabian politics.

597
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,880
Something teams that have happened, you know, something happened under

598
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,359
the Trump administration. Those are there are a lot a

599
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,559
lot of strange issues, a lot of weird events that

600
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,640
did go down, including well the sort of events you

601
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,599
don't really can't talk About'm.

602
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,799
Speaker 2: Just saying that based on the mainline narrative, wouldn't that

603
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,440
make them a an entity hostile to American interest?

604
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: Of course? But like you said before, it's like it's complete,

605
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:53,000
you know, it's completely nineteen eighty four at this point.

606
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,920
You don't you don't even try to be consistent. You

607
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,599
just roll with the punches and then just pragmatically take

608
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,319
whatever position at the time will benefit you and help

609
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:05,440
you to wield more power, you know. I mean, it's

610
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,359
just a you see it in the way that these

611
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,079
leftists debate, you know, like they're they're the inconsistencies. They

612
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,840
don't care about it the truth, No, that doesn't matter, right,

613
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,559
They're they're in this post post truth reality where you know,

614
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:19,880
it's not about truth. It's about power.

615
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: It's pure power.

616
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even debate, even interactions, it's only about

617
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,719
gaining the upper hand and optics and and displays of spectacle.

618
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,880
Nothing to do with you know, determining or delineating truth.

619
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: Which you know, of course, the displays of spectacle. It's

620
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,920
a major espionage and you know it's a it's a

621
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,559
major tactic used in espionage. But then also kind of

622
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:46,320
has its roots in what we were talking about in

623
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,440
the very beginning. You know, before we started here, you

624
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,920
were talking about that that book on Western occultism and

625
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,559
Western esotericism and the roots of espionage are really are

626
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,440
kind of coming from that, right, John d talk about

627
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,599
this a lot is in your book as well, you know,

628
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,960
John Dee being the Queens, you know, top spy guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a book that Scooter got me to get.

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Trussell recommended.

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Speaker 2: Buddy Duncan till it's called uh John b Empire of Angels,

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Enochian Magic and the Occult Roots of the Modern World.

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Speaker 3: Where did he go? Where Duncan Trussell go? That dude

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used to be everywhere like three years ago you've gone now.

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Speaker 2: But this is interesting because I haven't read this yet.

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I just got it pretty recently. But it's pretty much

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positive kind of what you're getting at that the way

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that we think of the modern world kind of kind

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of spins out of these occult movement movements who also

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oftentimes were tied into espionage spy operations. And some people theorize,

703
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,840
for example, that the Enochian magic symbols that John D

704
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,840
was all into really might have just been ways to

705
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,800
write spy code to send it to Elizabeth. Of course,

706
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,079
he was Elizabeth's chief spy. Queen Elizabeth. So if you

707
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,280
see the pictures, the paintings of her with eyes all

708
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,519
over her, those famous paintings are her spies.

709
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: She had a bass spy network.

710
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,559
Speaker 2: And this included I mean not just him, but other

711
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:18,559
I think Sir Walter Raleigh and other people that, by

712
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,159
the way, is where the term the world is not enough.

713
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:26,119
The bond phrase that comes from Sir Walter Raleigh. The

714
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,480
double O seven symbol comes from John D.

715
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:31,039
Speaker 1: It's his two balls and a cane, toulcane.

716
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: That's what the ladies call meane they called you.

717
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: Nevermind, go ahead, two.

718
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: Small ball canes what they call you two balls too,

719
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,079
smalls they call it.

720
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you know there's a fascinating relationship between

721
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,320
these two worlds that I know you know about now

722
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,840
having known me the expert in this field.

723
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, bondologists, James James, James James, is it James, Jim,

724
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,239
Jim Dyer, Jim Dryer. I forget I'm here with Jim Dryer, bondologist,

725
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:09,239
boomer fashion expert.

726
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: This is a joke. I'm not. But there is a

727
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,719
field called bondology that's crazy.

728
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,039
Speaker 3: Well, if if there's anybody that should get an honorary

729
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,159
PhD in bondology. I mean, you definitely know more about

730
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:23,480
the bond flicks and it definitely studied the whole subject

731
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:23,960
more than anyone.

732
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: The history part of it's interesting, But like I was

733
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,880
saying earlier, like when when it gets into queer theory

734
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:30,679
and toxic.

735
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: Mass, I know, that's like my that's my stuff, that's

736
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:32,719
my bad.

737
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: That's where you would step in as an expert.

738
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,119
Speaker 3: Obviously, obviously you have to tell me, dude, I know.

739
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:44,480
So yeah, you mentioned, you know, going back to John D.

740
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:51,559
This this occult influence in Western thought. You know, it

741
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,840
goes back to even pre Enlightenment, right, I mean John

742
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,400
D is kind of this like you know, what would

743
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,960
you call like Victorian era figures of the Victorian air

744
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:04,440
of the John D was Elizabethan era, and before this

745
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:09,880
you've got the Renaissance, And I've got a copy of

746
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,159
the book and I've yet to delve into it. But

747
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,920
the cult roots of the Renaissance or what is what

748
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:19,239
is the book called the Occult History of the Renaissance.

749
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: I forget, there's the occult Enlightenment.

750
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:25,079
Speaker 3: The occult Enlightenment, but there's another one about the Renaissance.

751
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:26,920
I think that I've got a copy of that have

752
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:29,400
yet to delve into. But you know, I mean, you've

753
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,440
got this this resurgence of of paganism in the West

754
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,559
that came with the Renaissance that ended up leading to

755
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:39,320
the Enlightenment. The Father Sarah from Rose and his Orthodox

756
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,360
Survival course does a good job and kind of tracing

757
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,760
the roots of all these movements to the Great Schism

758
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:49,840
and schism leading to the enlighten Schism leading to the Renaissance,

759
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,559
the Renaissance leading to the Reformation, and of course many

760
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:58,079
of the enlightened Enlightenment thinkers and then the later revolutionaries

761
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:01,880
that came out of the Enlightenment loving and revering the

762
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,280
Protestant Reformation as being a sort of many Enlightenment, and

763
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,000
and of course this leading us to where we are today.

764
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:12,119
Where you've got you know, me as an expert in

765
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,800
bond study, bond gender studies.

766
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 2: Well, Uh, Dame Francis Yates and her famous book Rosa

767
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,280
Cruscian Enlightenment. She begins the book with a chapter on

768
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:26,599
John D. So she points out John D is a

769
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:27,239
key figure.

770
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,039
Speaker 4: Uh.

771
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,599
Speaker 2: And since reading this book, I kind of overlooked the

772
00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:35,840
influence of Jacob Bowen, who is, by the way, Nicholas

773
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,159
Cage's favorite esotericis those who are.

774
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: Interested out there?

775
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,159
Speaker 3: Whoa how wait?

776
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,199
Speaker 1: How do we know that he talks about an interview?

777
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: How did that did that come up? Who's your who's

778
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,159
your favorite esotericist?

779
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: Won't really been an interested in reading jacobime and the

780
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,480
Theologia Germanic just a wild guy, dude.

781
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: Anyways, he really did talk about an interview. So Jacob

782
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440
Oween is sort of the father of this idea of

783
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,760
Christian what's called Christian theosophy, and he posits this God

784
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:18,159
in process, so process philosophy from him then influences Hegel,

785
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,639
who influences Marx. So a lot of the Western philosophers

786
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,360
that we might not think of as being directly connected

787
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,719
this actually are especially Hegel. So Hegel, there would be

788
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,800
no Hegel without Jacob Oween in some of these other

789
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:35,440
Renaissance from Medicis and as you pointed out, the Neoplatonists

790
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,719
of the Renaissance as well.

791
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: So that's a big, you know, pathway to where we

792
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:43,400
are today.

793
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,679
Speaker 2: As these figures they play into the Enlightenment or the

794
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,360
fine the Minds of Men book that you've covered, a

795
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,239
lot of those characters who were revolutionaries were also into

796
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,400
the occult. There's that great chapter in Firing the Minds

797
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,440
of Men on the pithe Rheans and the neo Platonists

798
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,239
that in influenced by shop to you know, create his

799
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:07,239
group and a lot of that, Yeah, a lot, a

800
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,280
lot of that involved spycraft and espionage.

801
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: These revolutionary characters were were spies too, So.

802
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:19,519
Speaker 2: Really no different today, I guess, because to move it

803
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:23,400
up into the modern period you have Blovatski, who is

804
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,639
pretty clearly some time.

805
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: She was eve. She was even believed by the multiple

806
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,000
British investigators.

807
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: And whatnot at the time to be some kind of spy.

808
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,280
They thought she might be a Russian spy. But I

809
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,480
think it's more makes more sense, you know.

810
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: I assume that it was confirmed that she was you know,

811
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,199
deeply steeped in espionage circles.

812
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,599
Speaker 2: But well, there the the accusation comes from people who

813
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,079
were connected with the British government who were in the

814
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:57,000
Psychical Research Society. So the problem is that Psychical Research

815
00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:02,159
Society is not the most credible organs say because they're

816
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,079
but they have people in it who were connected with

817
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:08,400
the British government. But so what happens is Blavatski says

818
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,480
that she channeled all of these messages from the assented

819
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:15,880
masters and then the people at the Psychic Research Society.

820
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,920
This guy who was like a UK investigator guy was like,

821
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,000
wait a minute, this all sounds like her.

822
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

823
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,559
Speaker 2: And by the way, what she doing when she goes

824
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:27,079
on these missions to the Himalayas and she's meeting with

825
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,599
KGB operatives.

826
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: Like, h what that guy.

827
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,039
Speaker 2: Temple Roorick ror She would she would go and meet

828
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:40,000
with Rorica, not Temple.

829
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 3: And uh.

830
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,079
Speaker 1: She is then accused of being a Russian spy.

831
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: But in reality, I think Rotziu's analysis makes more sense

832
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:58,079
that no, she was going and meeting with KGB guys

833
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:03,480
because the Fabian socialists and the Rothschild circles liked the KGB.

834
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: They weren't against the Soviets. And the Bolsheviks and all them. Hm,

835
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,920
So I think she was a Milner Fabian spy, not

836
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,039
a Russian spy.

837
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: We got super chat here from Big Boss super chatting

838
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,280
through through the stream labs. Thanks a lot, Big Boss

839
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,199
to fifteen bucks. Is how exactly would Russia even subvert

840
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,880
the US were weird now as degen as it gets,

841
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,119
or would the subversion be the opposite of what we are?

842
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,239
You will participate in sex after marriage, you will marry

843
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:43,559
a natural born woman as a natural born man. Yeah. Well,

844
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,920
I mean the narrative from the media is that, well,

845
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:52,480
the Russians clearly want Trump in because Trump is you know,

846
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:54,960
Trump's a Russian Agent's been the thing that they've been

847
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:01,159
spouting since twenty sixteen. And the other one now is that, well,

848
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,519
the Russians want you to not be pro Ukraine, and

849
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,639
the Russians want you to be anti Israel, right, So

850
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,519
this is they're kind of tying all their little pet

851
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:14,920
issues in with like just throwing that all in one basket,

852
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,440
it seems.

853
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:16,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

854
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:20,519
Speaker 2: And also, I mean, you know, if you think about it, well,

855
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:22,679
the New York Times had a long article that I

856
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,880
reported on back at the twenty eighteen or nineteen. I

857
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,760
think everybody's forgotten this, but Hillary had huge deals in

858
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:36,519
Russia with certain energy companies. So the actual monetary interests

859
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,440
of Hillary are way more than any kind of deals

860
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,360
that Trump had relation in relation to any Russian people.

861
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: So it actually amazing how much money they've generated through

862
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,039
all these deals since the nineties. I mean, the Clintons

863
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,119
are they're very powerful people. I mean they're very they're

864
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:55,400
very really adept at doing these you know, shady, gangster

865
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:59,920
level business deals internationally. I mean with their don't they

866
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:03,480
also have a big Saudi connection too, Yeah? Did, or

867
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:05,800
they did, I'm not sure what.

868
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,159
Speaker 2: Sort of you the the pay for play stuff was

869
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:17,199
Saudi Qatar, various royals giving Hillary vast sums of money

870
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,400
for when she was elected.

871
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: That they would get hey, they would get paybacks.

872
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: Remember that they're not going to get a DOJ indictment

873
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,480
about that anytime soon.

874
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: No, exactly. Do you remember the twenty fifteen payer play.

875
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,119
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm remembering now that you say it. It's it's

876
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:39,000
amazing the sheer magnitude and and frequency with which this

877
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:40,360
has been happening since.

878
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: To think how silly this is.

879
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: Right, The only thing that they could find on Trump

880
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,280
is a made up thing about being peede on which

881
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,920
was fake. But Hillary and Bill and all of them

882
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:56,360
have like literally taken zillions of dollars from China, Saudi's

883
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,960
kataris like all of it and other countries.

884
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: Is there like an Israel connected I mean, you know,

885
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,679
the Apex pretty dangn powerful everywhere.

886
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,679
Speaker 2: But absolutely, I mean, like a half of uh Winning

887
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:14,360
Webb's book is Epstein's connections there.

888
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,519
Speaker 3: And with with China. Yeah, but you know, I mean Epstein,

889
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:22,000
He's he's there are our greatest allies. You know these

890
00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:22,320
are well.

891
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: But he gave money to the Clinton campaign back and

892
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,000
at that time philanthropy.

893
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:31,199
Speaker 3: He was for science. The guy likes science. The Clinton's

894
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:31,920
are pro science.

895
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: What's your problem?

896
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:36,119
Speaker 2: I mean at that time, Look, all Bill Clinton knew

897
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:39,360
at that time was that he was getting philanthropic donations

898
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,199
from a science man.

899
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:43,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his young girls. They were giving him philanthropic

900
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:50,559
we don't know, happy ending rubdowns allegedly allegedly, Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well,

901
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,960
you have to say allegedly, don't don't not say allegedly.

902
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,239
It's it's so crazy, It's like, it's it's insane. The

903
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,679
level of corruption that has been normalized now, and I

904
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,559
think you know, if if there, if there is a syop,

905
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:06,719
and then you know there's levels and levels and layers

906
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,280
and layers of syops. One of the biggest syops out

907
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,960
there is clearly to just demoralize us through us knowing

908
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:17,519
all of this, right, I mean, it's it's so incredibly

909
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:21,679
it's amazing how much corruption there is that's just right

910
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,480
out there in the open, and nothing gets done about it.

911
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:27,920
You know, It's it's just really right in front of

912
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,760
your face. And I think one of the major syops

913
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,239
in in mass media has been to well, just cover

914
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,960
this stuff up with spectacle. Right whenever there's something coming out,

915
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,320
there's a new spectacle that it's just oh, look over there,

916
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,599
you know, like it's you know, start a dumpster fire

917
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,920
and point the cameras at the dumpster fire, and people

918
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,079
are going to focus on that. And you know, the

919
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:55,360
manipulation of consciousness is something that these westerness terists have

920
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,920
always been really interested in the nature of consciousness, probing

921
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,119
into the depth of the human soul, which they'll usually

922
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:07,239
call the psyche or something. But this is of seminal

923
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,679
importance to these you know, to the Western necessary esotericists

924
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,639
that you were discussing earlier, and I was talking a

925
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:19,400
little bit about psychoanalysis and Freud, Young and Reich and

926
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,440
all of these guys. The framework with which we that

927
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:27,199
we look at the world through has been changed so

928
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,000
much over the years, but has really led us into

929
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:33,800
this almost like hall of mirrors U and mass media

930
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:39,000
now with social media has become kind of like the

931
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,480
ultimate opioid for for the masses, because you know, you

932
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:45,800
can anybody can just jump into the little hall of

933
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,320
mirrors and just spend endless hours on TikTok on Instagram,

934
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,719
you know, following their favorite uh, their favorite influencers, influencing

935
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,360
them to you know, behave in ridiculous ways doing TikTok

936
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,920
dances and all this stuff. But you know, but that's so,

937
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,159
that's fine, that's okay. What what is a problem is

938
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,400
general people who are slightly to the right of center

939
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:14,639
on some issues, like Timpoole, Lauren Chen and some of

940
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:18,599
these people who are you know, very moderate in all

941
00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:20,960
regards like these are not extreme far right. You know,

942
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,280
Tim Poole extreme far right. You know, he's really far

943
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,199
on the right side of his bum when he's sitting

944
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,079
on the fence on most issues. I mean, he's he's

945
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:30,320
notorious as being like a fence sitter, and I'm not

946
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,039
trying to just slag on Tim Poole, but like he'll

947
00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:35,360
admit this himself that he's a fence sitter on a

948
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,039
lot of these things, and that's what he's known for.

949
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,599
But now, oh no, he's he's far right because he's

950
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,239
critical of spending billions of dollars on this war in

951
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,679
Ukraine that is going to benefit all these you know,

952
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,679
oligarchic families who have been ripping off the country and

953
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,239
ripping off the people in Ukraine for so long. It's ah,

954
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,480
this is a problem him being vaguely critical of certain

955
00:52:57,559 --> 00:53:02,440
actions that Israelist taking while being really apologetic for Israel

956
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:06,679
in general on most things. Him Russians must be paying

957
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,320
him to do this, and this is a major problem.

958
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:12,639
You know, it's not only fans polluting the minds of

959
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,760
you know, entire generations young men and turning people's daughters

960
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,960
into literal whors. That's okay, that's fine, but you know,

961
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Tim Poole's saying some stuff that maybe the Russians would

962
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,320
the Russians maybe that they would agree with. Well, we

963
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,440
better shot that. Yeah.

964
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: Well, the accusation not too long ago was that he

965
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,000
was being funded by the CIA. I remember that accusation

966
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,119
a while back.

967
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:41,159
Speaker 2: And the more he moved into this sort of libertarian

968
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:46,639
and sort of conservative on some issues takes, then the

969
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,920
heat gets turned up. Now it flips over into this

970
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,159
and like you pointed out, I mean, I'm not I didn't.

971
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,079
Speaker 1: I didn't follow a lot of.

972
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:57,159
Speaker 2: Lauren Chen's content, but what I have seen from her

973
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,519
seemed to be fairly middle of the I there wasn't

974
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:01,800
anything super edgy.

975
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: That's not that I've seen. I don't follow her either,

976
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:08,119
just the clips I've seen. It's just basic takes like

977
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,199
oh look at look at the the woke mob is

978
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,840
kind of crazy, don't you think guys like maybe we

979
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,039
shouldn't give a bunch of money to Ukrainians? And you know,

980
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:18,480
it seemed like normal stuff that you maybe see some

981
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:19,639
of it on Fox News.

982
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean she debated Andrew and they had

983
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,159
this debate over you know, she had a very kind

984
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:28,840
of standard approach to what Christian marriage is.

985
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,119
Speaker 1: Nothing radical or over the edge.

986
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 3: Definitely not a far right extremist or extreet you know, like.

987
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: No That's what I'm saying.

988
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: Like the I think what they're doing is they're sort

989
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,440
of right, they're going down the line of anyone anti establishment,

990
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,559
whether you're far right, whether you're you know, middle of

991
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:52,119
the road libertarian conservative, Like they're sort of just going

992
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,559
down the list, I think, sort of going after anyone

993
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,599
that can can have any kind of influence or called rucus.

994
00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:01,480
And so this seemed to be a timely thing that

995
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:05,159
they rolled out, particularly because probably this is my analysis,

996
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:07,719
Temple was saying that he was going to try to

997
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,400
take legal action against Kamala for editing the videos of

998
00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:12,199
him to make him say something else.

999
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: The very next day, Kamala and her crew roll this out.

1000
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:19,639
Speaker 2: So they might have been sitting on this for a

1001
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,519
while to use at the opportune time. And if you recall,

1002
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:28,599
going all the way back to twenty sixteen, it wasn't

1003
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:34,320
just Trump, but Alex was called Russian agent for a

1004
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,039
couple of years. Of course, Soccer was Russian agent for

1005
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:42,400
several years, Rogan was Russian agent at one point. So

1006
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:46,159
essentially this is what they do to anyone in alternative

1007
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:52,039
media that is in any way anti DNC and perhaps

1008
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:56,239
even Unit Party RNC Rhino establishment. So it's just a

1009
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:01,679
thing they constantly roll out. But I mean it's not

1010
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:07,480
that extreme because, like you pointed out, I don't think

1011
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:09,960
Temple really needed tenant media.

1012
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:13,119
Speaker 1: It's not like it was some massive thing that he

1013
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,400
was was, uh it was going to take it to

1014
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,119
the next level.

1015
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:19,559
Speaker 3: I mean like, yeah, like Tim Poole's operation is not

1016
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,840
the you know, the house that Russia built or something

1017
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,079
like that.

1018
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 2: But well I remember so you know, uh Tim was

1019
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,920
on there and he debated with Rollo and and uh

1020
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:35,400
Tim Poole, Tim Gordon Rachel was on there debating with

1021
00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:37,039
people two or three.

1022
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,519
Speaker 3: I mean I've seen I've seen maybe like those people

1023
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:41,400
are clearly a few of those debates.

1024
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: And like and the but the they have maybe ten

1025
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,480
twenty thirty thousand views on something. It's like it wasn't

1026
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:49,239
even like, you know, I can get that on my channel.

1027
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:52,400
So you know, like you said, sixty million views in

1028
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,400
two years is not even that big of a deal.

1029
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:56,679
Speaker 3: So this was not I mean it it seemed like

1030
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,800
it was a lot of money considering the amount of views, right, Like,

1031
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,920
I mean, considering the amount of views, that is a

1032
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,599
lot of money.

1033
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: But maybe the fault I mean, if all that stuff

1034
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,519
is accurate or true, maybe the thought was it would

1035
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:09,719
grow into something more.

1036
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:15,639
Speaker 3: But of course, of course, and and to take that money. Yeah,

1037
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,079
you know again like I, I haven't read the entire indictment,

1038
00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:22,559
which is not indicting Chen Timpool. None of these people

1039
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:24,119
are actually being indicted.

1040
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: These are two people will never be indicted.

1041
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:29,679
Speaker 3: So I mean, look, in all reality, this could be

1042
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:34,440
an indictment against two pseudonyms of people that don't even exist, right,

1043
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:38,000
like it because it is so easy to fund any

1044
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:42,440
alt media operation through a shell game of you know,

1045
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:45,159
essentially you know, anonymous.

1046
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,079
Speaker 1: With the vegans in the Saudis right.

1047
00:57:48,239 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we've talked about I've talked about this even

1048
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,519
with just alt media in general, how it's so easy

1049
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:55,840
for somebody to just start making anonymous bitcoin donations or

1050
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,000
get contact somebody through email and say, hey, I like

1051
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:00,119
your content, you know, let me drop you a w

1052
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:02,719
BTC bro like I got rich off BTC I bought,

1053
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,000
you know, I bought I bought in early at two cents,

1054
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:07,480
and I got all this sitting around these There are

1055
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:13,320
ways that you can influence content, fun content, promote content very.

1056
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,559
Speaker 2: Easily through Who was it that was paying like earthling

1057
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,639
Ed and all those people who was Yeah, a.

1058
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: Lot of the vegans, the vegan activists are all funded

1059
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:25,239
by the Saudi guy called Prince Alwali beIN Tallal. He's

1060
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:30,320
this major Saudi prince's son and he's got all these

1061
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,119
little Silicon Valley startups. It is really involved in some

1062
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,480
some projects for like smart City twenty thirty type stuff.

1063
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:41,480
And his dad was actually arrested under during the Trump administration.

1064
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:45,159
His father was arrested by the current Saudi regime for

1065
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:48,679
some sort of intrigues that he had. His ex wife

1066
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,920
can actually accused him of being a human trafficker. I

1067
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,199
mean these are like this super shady Saudi guy and

1068
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:04,559
his he his going back to Bond. His yacht that

1069
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:07,000
he has sold to Donald Trump in like the eighties

1070
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:11,119
or nineties, was actually used is that.

1071
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:13,239
Speaker 1: Yacht?

1072
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 3: I think it might have gone to Koshogi, but originally

1073
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:20,079
within the Bond movie.

1074
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.

1075
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,719
Speaker 2: In Whitney's book, she has the first chapter where she

1076
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,159
talks about how Koshogi was using the yacht as a

1077
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,000
kind of floating mini Epstein situation.

1078
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,599
Speaker 3: Interesting, I don't it might have been the same one.

1079
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:35,320
It might have gone through Koshogi. But this yacht was

1080
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,920
used in a Bond film, like.

1081
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:41,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that, Yeah, so on an old

1082
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,920
streaming and you did it. So I think you're right

1083
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:43,239
about that.

1084
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: So he would openly fund like all these vegan YouTube

1085
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,079
channels and then also be kind of a secret funder, right.

1086
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:51,079
But you know, of course nobody's concerned about you know,

1087
00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:56,159
Saudi Prince funding vegan activists throughout the West to influence uh,

1088
00:59:56,639 --> 01:00:00,920
you know, behavior dietarily and culturally and you know, attack

1089
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,360
small family farms and all this. Nobody's concerned about that

1090
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,760
at all. But it's all it's really easy to just

1091
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,280
set up, you know, some pseudonyms or have I mean,

1092
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,840
in any intelligence agency, you can get in there, fund

1093
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,559
any operation they want and maybe like you know, fed

1094
01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:18,880
jacket it and make it look like it's some Russians

1095
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,639
thin blame the person receiving the money or you know,

1096
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:24,360
fed jacket them and make it seem like it's some

1097
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,000
sort of you know, Chinese, even any any country you

1098
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:31,960
want it can you can make it seem like they are,

1099
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,880
you know, funding an operation. It's not very hard. You

1100
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,840
don't have to be that intelligent to do it.

1101
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: This is an eighty six million dollars yacht. And uh

1102
01:00:41,199 --> 01:00:43,159
at one time Trump was the owner of it.

1103
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: What's the nut yachts name. It's a funny name.

1104
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: It's called the Yes, it's right here, it's called the

1105
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,400
the Nobila.

1106
01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's right. I thought it was something else.

1107
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,519
I thought it was like an English name.

1108
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: That was that was pretty His eighty six million dollars

1109
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:14,280
super yacht, the Nobila nearly broke the shipyard. But you

1110
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,440
said there was, and it's this, Yes, this is it.

1111
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:21,760
Because when you search for it, Ali while Benttilal comes up.

1112
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,519
The Nabula yacht was named the Trump Princess when he

1113
01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:33,559
took it over. It was in Never Say Never Again,

1114
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,559
the nineteenth three James Bond movie.

1115
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, it's funny. We go full circle. The

1116
01:01:44,199 --> 01:01:49,880
vegan activists can connect to the Epstein operation in some way.

1117
01:01:50,719 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: That's great.

1118
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,039
Speaker 2: If you if you look up the first chapter or

1119
01:01:54,199 --> 01:01:57,480
first or second chapter of Whitney's book, the second.

1120
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: Volume, it deals with they were bringing in like.

1121
01:02:03,679 --> 01:02:09,239
Speaker 2: Foreign I forget which nationality, prostitutes and it was rigged

1122
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,360
up with like cameras. The yacht had like cameras to

1123
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:17,239
film because Kashowge was working for the establishment to blackmail.

1124
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: People baste and he was. He was.

1125
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:25,079
Speaker 2: He was connected to Epstein like they were. They had

1126
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:29,800
some connection. Oh Man based, you say, based.

1127
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1170
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You got that book now, Jay, Yeah.

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01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:58,039
Speaker 2: So the Sultan of Brune was Epstein's Jeff sim McCaffrey's

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01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:02,960
landlord during this time period, and this I think is

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01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:07,079
the means by which he's introduced to add non Koshogi.

1174
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:09,320
And it says that Jeff Stein may have been first

1175
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,719
exposed to this idea of blackmail operations through the proximity

1176
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,760
to Kohne Gray and Koshogi. In fact, he was in

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01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,519
close proximity to Koshogi himself. And this is a possibility

1178
01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:25,960
that is linking. This links then Epstein to the BCCI

1179
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,679
affair in the nineteen It doesn't say what here this is,

1180
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:35,920
but the John Kerry Hank Brown investigation too, the BCCI

1181
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:40,840
uncovered that the bank, which was located in Pakistan, was

1182
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,519
utilized in blackmail operations through the yacht and the bringing

1183
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:51,039
in of Pakistani women and men for parties on the

1184
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:55,719
yacht where it could be filmed. And these are Pakistani

1185
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:01,719
guys and girls ages sixteen to twenty. This is before

1186
01:06:02,159 --> 01:06:05,639
Trump owns the yacht. This is back in the late

1187
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:09,239
seventies early eighties. Trump by the by he got in

1188
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,000
nineteen eighty eight from Koshoge. But anyway, so there, so

1189
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:17,320
there is basically the mini pre Jeff sin McAffrey operation

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01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,679
on this famous yacht.

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01:06:20,679 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: That crazy as wow.

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01:06:22,679 --> 01:06:26,559
Speaker 3: Well it's it's amazing to you look at how nineteen Yeah.

1193
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:31,719
Speaker 1: And weapons he's a weapons uh dealer.

1194
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we didn't. We didn't mention that big

1195
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:38,840
international weapons dealer, super sketchy guy involved with tons of

1196
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,119
very powerful people. He's, uh, how do you how do

1197
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:45,559
you die? I don't remember? Then you get murdered.

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01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:48,119
Speaker 2: He also comes up as drug I think drug trafficker

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in the famous McCoy book on in the drug trade.

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,239
Speaker 3: Well, the drug trade, weapons trade, and the trade in

1201
01:06:56,679 --> 01:07:03,039
humans right in human trafficking closely web book correct, closely

1202
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:08,480
linked and very much uh you know, tools of black

1203
01:07:08,519 --> 01:07:11,079
ops type stuff. I mean these are known to be

1204
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:17,280
used to fund black ops type actions, the crack cocaine

1205
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:24,239
stuff that was happening in the eighties, the Ali North stuff. Yeah,

1206
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,840
so yeah, Wow, it's just it's incredible. It's staggering just

1207
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:34,079
the level of interconnectedness with so much of so many

1208
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:37,440
of these operations. And you know, back to the Epstein op,

1209
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:41,840
this is something that was used to influence people in

1210
01:07:42,039 --> 01:07:49,039
media in academia and his Glene Maxwell and the sisters

1211
01:07:49,199 --> 01:07:53,320
and the Promise software and all of their connections to

1212
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,800
with getting back doors in software that was used for

1213
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:01,719
interagency communication through out intelligence agencies in the US.

1214
01:08:03,159 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: Did you know they invented what was the Netscape navigator

1215
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,519
and the Karda. Isn't that crazy?

1216
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 3: Oh that's hilarious.

1217
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a Gislaine invention. Well her, her sister

1218
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,400
and her brother. I think we're all connected on that.

1219
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:17,359
And they sold it to gil Bates.

1220
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,159
Speaker 3: Wow, there you go, there you go. So, I mean,

1221
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:24,960
but all this stuff, you know, and remember these are

1222
01:08:25,119 --> 01:08:30,680
you know, not foreign agents, these are these are good people.

1223
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,720
They're just you know, business people. And this is all okay,

1224
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,560
it's all okay, Now I'm not trying to you know,

1225
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,159
if there is influence from any foreign country, you know,

1226
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:44,560
in order to propagandaize. I'm not we're not running apologetics

1227
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,079
for this, just simply pointing out that shouldn't we be consistent,

1228
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:51,520
shouldn't we be consistent in uh, you know who's being

1229
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:58,319
called out prosecuted for, you know, illegal activity. And yeah,

1230
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:02,520
it's it's pretty crazy the level of interference that's happened

1231
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,520
from certain countries in the in the Middle East.

1232
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:08,399
Speaker 1: Well, it's fascinating too to think about.

1233
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:16,399
Speaker 2: Like the origin of search engines, Netscape Navigator, online encyclopedia,

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01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:20,960
the idea was originally hatched by people working in intelligence

1235
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,960
and blackmail, all right, to have quick access for files

1236
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:28,960
and presumably I need to access all the dirt I've.

1237
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: Got on Tristan right, which you have none on me.

1238
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,399
Speaker 2: It would come up under the queer theory chapters like

1239
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,000
vast volumes of blackmail.

1240
01:09:38,199 --> 01:09:46,199
Speaker 3: Right there, I go clean my Netscape navigator. Clear. Wait,

1241
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:49,520
if I delete my cookies on Netscape Navigator, Glene Maxwell

1242
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,199
won't know, right, go back.

1243
01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:52,520
Speaker 1: To the Nescape Act.

1244
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: That's unfortunate because she already sold all your cookies to

1245
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,439
Bill Gates from that scape.

1246
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,359
Speaker 1: So now Bill Gates has a good one.

1247
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,239
Speaker 3: So my freaking girl scout cookies at Bill Gates my

1248
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:13,920
thin minces what the ladies call my cookies, my thin mince.

1249
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,239
Speaker 1: The h oh.

1250
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 3: I had another another idea, but just it just skipped

1251
01:10:21,039 --> 01:10:24,399
my mind of his dumb jokes. But yeah, what were

1252
01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:25,720
you gonna say? You see your flipping too a page?

1253
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 1: Look, Johnny Chung, That's what I was trying to think of.

1254
01:10:29,319 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 2: One of the key characters in the Clinton the China

1255
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,800
Gate scandal was a Chinese operative working with the Clinton's

1256
01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:39,720
Albor went and visited China and at this time as well.

1257
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,800
So basically they were working with all these entities that

1258
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:49,640
I think this is probably why, Yeah, the Confucian Society

1259
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,880
and all this set up that was allowed for so long,

1260
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,760
And that was one of the controversial things Trump did

1261
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,920
was to shut down a lot of these foreign Chinese operations.

1262
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the Confused Society may still be here, but

1263
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,479
it was a big deal.

1264
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 2: What twenty seventeen somewhere in there when Trump banned all

1265
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,000
of the Chinese foreign exchange stuff, which.

1266
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,159
Speaker 3: Was, ah, yeah, I was wondering what you're talking about.

1267
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:14,039
I remember that now.

1268
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was Trump trying to reverse some of

1269
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:21,119
this like Clinton stuff. That they had put in place there.

1270
01:11:23,079 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it seems like there was at least a

1271
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,960
level of that rivalry that was that was legitimate. I

1272
01:11:28,039 --> 01:11:29,680
mean a lot of people speculated, Ah, you know, he

1273
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,000
was just saying lock her up just to get elected.

1274
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:33,079
He was just trying to get it, you know.

1275
01:11:34,079 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 1: Guy, Yeah, Whitney rebbed.

1276
01:11:36,119 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: She lists Clinton's connections to Charlie Tree, the Tati group,

1277
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,920
the Lippo group, ing Lap Singh, all of which were

1278
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,800
connected to people's Republic of China fronts, so that they're

1279
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,279
like they're deeply into.

1280
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you're.

1281
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: Like an FBI like chart board to draw, you know

1282
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:56,560
what I mean, like how.

1283
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: They have like all the yeah, the conspiracy theory thing

1284
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:05,199
from whatever show that's from. I'm surprised your web book

1285
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:07,760
held up the binding on the physical copy held up

1286
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,680
so well, because mine, like I don't know, like the

1287
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,720
publisher at Yeah. Yeah, the glue was really bad and

1288
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,479
it started falling apart just when I was in like

1289
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,359
the first few chapters. I haven't even gotten to the

1290
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:20,600
second book, but it's yeah, it's dense, it's really well done.

1291
01:12:23,239 --> 01:12:27,560
Webb's book there, we've covered a lot. Man, you got

1292
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,159
any other thoughts on how you know, we've talked about Bond,

1293
01:12:31,279 --> 01:12:34,800
We've talked about, you know, the social engineering and the

1294
01:12:35,159 --> 01:12:38,479
role of mass media. We didn't get too much into that,

1295
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,800
but I mean, I can.

1296
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: Go anywhere you want.

1297
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I got this history of Tavistock that's an

1298
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,880
academic publication which is pretty wild, has a lot of

1299
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,199
admissions in that, but recently obtained.

1300
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: I've got a book on mocking Bird. We didn't go

1301
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,079
too deep in the mocking Bird.

1302
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: But we should do a whole Let's do a whole

1303
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:01,399
show on Tavistock. I'd love to. I've got a book

1304
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:06,479
on Tavistock that I've yet to delve into. Also, No,

1305
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,920
there's the old Stealan book, but I don't know if

1306
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,760
that one's any good.

1307
01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean it's a lot of resetting what's

1308
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,720
in the John Coleman book. But I branched out and

1309
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:18,720
I've actually gotten some of that.

1310
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,319
Speaker 3: Coleman wrote a book on Tavistock or his Committee in

1311
01:13:21,319 --> 01:13:24,399
three hundred. It's separate from the Committee of three hundred book.

1312
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: Interesting, it was out of print forever, no never, and

1313
01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:29,920
I finally got it, so it's back in print.

1314
01:13:30,079 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 3: It's back at all. I have to get a copy

1315
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,720
of that is the cook in print? Again?

1316
01:13:34,359 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 4: What is it?

1317
01:13:35,159 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: Is it the other the Committee of three hundred book

1318
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,000
in print? Again? It's kind of fallen apart. It was

1319
01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:40,920
expensive for a while.

1320
01:13:43,039 --> 01:13:45,319
Speaker 2: Now I've crossed reference because a lot of people complain

1321
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,920
that Coleman didn't do very good with footnotes and references,

1322
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,159
which is a fair critigue. But in this official history

1323
01:13:53,199 --> 01:13:57,000
of Tavistock, I have been able to back up a

1324
01:13:57,079 --> 01:13:57,880
lot of the claims.

1325
01:13:58,359 --> 01:14:00,399
Speaker 3: Who's the publisher of that one? Is that hard to get?

1326
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:01,000
Is it hard to find?

1327
01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: No, it's a famous academic It's Rutledge, which is a

1328
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,880
famous academic culture.

1329
01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so those are always kind of expensive too, though.

1330
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,880
Is it like seventy bucks for the No, this was

1331
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,680
more like forty or fifty. But okay, that's funny. All

1332
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,079
all the all the university books, they're like one hundred

1333
01:14:18,119 --> 01:14:20,680
bucks for a soft right soft back.

1334
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: Also, I mean this is uh tavistocka jacent So I've

1335
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,319
only got Walter Littman's book.

1336
01:14:27,399 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, I've got a printed copy of that. That's

1337
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:36,960
not nice and bound. That's a good one. Sweet, I

1338
01:14:37,079 --> 01:14:39,079
do I'd like to I'd like to do a Tavistoking

1339
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,960
Institute one. Soon I actually I started reading Public Opinion.

1340
01:14:43,279 --> 01:14:45,239
It's a little bit drab, like it's kind of like

1341
01:14:46,039 --> 01:14:48,000
it's kind of you know, it's good, but it's you're

1342
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:51,560
looking at the early days of of PR And I

1343
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,760
don't like how Litman writes. He kind of writes in

1344
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,199
an annoying more yeah read.

1345
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,239
Speaker 1: But there's all yeah, we can't forget. Did you ever

1346
01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:02,039
read this classic?

1347
01:15:04,119 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 3: Oh Brene? Of course? Yeah, brenees and Litman. That'd be

1348
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,560
better to do those together, because Litman is not as

1349
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:14,159
fun as Brene's. Right, you know his nephew is his

1350
01:15:14,279 --> 01:15:19,439
nephew or his grandson that owns Netflix? Yeah, or former

1351
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,840
CEO or a founder of Netflix. So yeah, yeah, Matt,

1352
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:31,199
mass media espionage, social engineering, bondology.

1353
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 2: Clearly you know these are all I mean, I can

1354
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,079
always go off in the bond stuff for a long time.

1355
01:15:37,279 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: You want to wrap it up or do you want

1356
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,000
to keep going? I don't care the way whatever you want.

1357
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:42,319
Speaker 3: Either way, man, either way, I'm just getting a little

1358
01:15:42,319 --> 01:15:44,079
tired here. I feel like we could wrap it. Sometimes

1359
01:15:44,199 --> 01:15:45,880
I go way too long, and I feel like I

1360
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,600
could have just split that up into some you know,

1361
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,640
leave some, leave some for dessert.

1362
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: So we can say some more stuff for specific Bond.

1363
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,399
Speaker 2: They could do a whole Yeah, I've done like probably

1364
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,720
thirty Bond streams on this or that Bond movie, novel, whatever. Right,

1365
01:16:01,239 --> 01:16:02,640
there a lot of there's a lot of stuff packed

1366
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,199
in those that's pretty fascinating. Nice man and actually one

1367
01:16:06,279 --> 01:16:09,680
of the key operatives that not many people know who

1368
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,520
is one of the big influences, the most famous, one

1369
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,119
of the most famous Jewish operatives out there was Sidney Riley.

1370
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,199
Speaker 3: I'd huh, never heard of Sidney Riley.

1371
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 1: Oh really, Yeah, he's he's key because he comes up

1372
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:25,920
in the.

1373
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,199
Speaker 2: Rakowsky interrogation as sort of the right hand operative of

1374
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,000
Ralph Chold. And so there's a lot of literature out there.

1375
01:16:36,079 --> 01:16:40,439
But doctor Richard Spence, who's public published at Trion Day.

1376
01:16:41,279 --> 01:16:43,720
Before he was at Trin Day, he wrote this whole

1377
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,039
history of Sidney Riley, and there's other ones. This is

1378
01:16:48,079 --> 01:16:51,199
a pretty kind of pop pop book on him. He's

1379
01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:53,159
again famous influence on James Bond.

1380
01:16:53,359 --> 01:16:58,079
Speaker 1: But well he's important because he's famous.

1381
01:16:58,119 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 3: Wait, why does it have the couples in the background.

1382
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:00,880
Is he's Russian?

1383
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,319
Speaker 2: No, Well, that's the thing is like, was the British

1384
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:10,039
intelligence operative or was he a Soviet Bolshevik communist.

1385
01:17:13,359 --> 01:17:16,279
Speaker 3: Or Victor Rothschild.

1386
01:17:19,359 --> 01:17:22,359
Speaker 1: And that's what the recops interrogation alleges about him.

1387
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 2: I've not yet read uh doctor Spencer's book on him,

1388
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,159
but I think it's probably the case.

1389
01:17:29,279 --> 01:17:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what Spencer's thesis is, but yeah, he's

1390
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:34,479
a character, and they'd made a whole movie or a

1391
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,079
whole series about him. Uh, who's that? Who's that? Who's

1392
01:17:38,119 --> 01:17:44,479
the guy in? N't it? It's the guy in Jurassic Park?

1393
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:47,840
Remember him? Which one original one? The doctor and the

1394
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:48,880
original of the British guy?

1395
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 3: No, not the doctor, which doctor?

1396
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: The paleontologist?

1397
01:17:58,319 --> 01:18:01,079
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Grant, doctor Grant. What's his name?

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Speaker 1: He plays Sidney Riley in the British show He's.

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Speaker 3: An easy Is he actually British or is he American?

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He's pretty, he's got an accent in that film.

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Speaker 1: Sam Neil, Yes, Sam Neil plays Sidney Riley in an

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01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:24,039
entire series that the British BBC made.

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Speaker 3: What year was that? Made?

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01:18:26,399 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: Eighties?

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Speaker 2: It's called Riley as Spies. It's pretty famous spy series.

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But people don't know, like, wait a minute, this is

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01:18:34,079 --> 01:18:37,640
actually like this is the real Illuminati, right, because this

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01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:38,920
is the people working for.

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01:18:40,039 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 3: Like Rothschild so right, and and also you know, crossing

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01:18:44,039 --> 01:18:49,159
the crossing over into the Soviet influenced blog, playing both

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01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:53,039
sides exactly. Well, there seemed to be aspects of this

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with the with this current. You know, there's always a

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stamp of that of like this. You know, you're always unsure, well,

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01:19:00,399 --> 01:19:02,319
what's the what's even the intention here?

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01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: Right?

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01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 3: So like you I think that's kind of a signature

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01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,800
of these intelligence operations and that like you know, you

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01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,680
can't make it too blatantly obvious, and you can sometimes

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01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,000
they'll cast a wide net and you know the different

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01:19:16,399 --> 01:19:20,439
things that they're trying to influence. But yeah, that we're

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01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,359
living in that gray area. You know, it's a good movie.

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01:19:24,279 --> 01:19:27,119
It's maybe what do you think about The Good Shepherd?

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01:19:27,399 --> 01:19:28,319
You like The Good Shepherd?

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01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:33,079
Speaker 2: Well, it has it has the at the beginning, is

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01:19:33,119 --> 01:19:36,800
it Stephen fry In? He the gay handler, one of

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01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:37,760
the one of the handlers.

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01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not the other British actor, but well there's.

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01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 3: What's his face? Oh goodness, Caine. Michael Kaine's in there too.

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01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the other guy who is the one that

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01:19:48,039 --> 01:19:51,199
trains Matt Damon and spycraft.

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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 3: The British intelligence.

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01:19:52,039 --> 01:19:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's making this this point that the OSS is

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01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,239
set up by British intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And there some reference in there. He calls it,

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01:20:01,399 --> 01:20:04,119
you know, the Dark Arts. I think Michael Kayne uses

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01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:05,439
the term the Dark Arts.

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01:20:06,399 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: We use it.

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01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 3: As training in the doc Rots. That's I know. I

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01:20:10,079 --> 01:20:11,479
enjoyed The Good Shepherd. I think I watched it a

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01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,199
few times, like the revisit that it's a little long,

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01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,279
not yeah, is.

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01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: A little long and slow, but it's pretty accurate.

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01:20:19,119 --> 01:20:21,039
Speaker 3: I do like I kind of like long films though,

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01:20:21,159 --> 01:20:24,239
you know, I mean the extended versions of the Lord

1445
01:20:24,279 --> 01:20:26,920
of the Ring trilogy like those are you're not gonna

1446
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,119
say for four hours and watch.

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01:20:29,279 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: I liked those two. I mean I like the long

1448
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:36,760
Dune films. Did you be the new Mad Max? It

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01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:37,439
was pretty long?

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01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 3: No, you both you and my brother said that it was.

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01:20:41,039 --> 01:20:41,600
That it was good.

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01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:48,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if you filter out like the feminist stuff otherwise.

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01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, just as like an entertaining film like a Mad

1454
01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:55,560
maxim But I guess Mad Max always the what's his name? Frank? Uh?

1455
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,960
What's again? George Miller? He said that the original Mad

1456
01:21:00,079 --> 01:21:03,439
Max were also feminist. Yeah, he's made the claim that

1457
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,560
these were it was always feminist.

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01:21:07,039 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true because the villains in one

1459
01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:19,760
and two are clearly skittles. There's nothing feminist in part

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01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,720
one or two. You could argue that maybe Tina Turner

1461
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,039
is the first emergence of something quasi feminist.

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01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what his justification was, but yeah, he's

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01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,600
just revising. He's like, no, I promise, I'm always I'm

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,479
not a Remember JK.

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01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: Rowling did this too, where it's like, oh, by the way, okay, fine,

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01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:40,920
Dumbledore was gay.

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01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,039
Speaker 3: Yeah he was trans, Harry Potter's trans. It's okay, I'm

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01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:46,479
not a big.

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01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 2: Nothing at the time that suggested that I'm not even

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01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,760
that I don't care about defending Harry Potter. I just

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01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,239
I think a lot of these people retroactively will say

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01:21:53,319 --> 01:21:54,680
this for social justice.

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01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,279
Speaker 3: I thought it was just the actor that was gay.

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01:21:56,399 --> 01:21:59,880
She actually legit said that he himself, the character Dumbledore was,

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01:22:00,199 --> 01:22:00,520
was a gay.

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01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,039
Speaker 2: I don't know something like that, but I mean people

1477
01:22:03,079 --> 01:22:07,800
do this retroactively where they're like, you know, I mean

1478
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,960
they said SpongeBob supposed to be gay, right?

1479
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,199
Speaker 3: Uh? We can see that. I always thought that show

1480
01:22:14,279 --> 01:22:14,840
was pretty gay.

1481
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:17,359
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny.

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01:22:17,399 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying like there was nothing at the

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01:22:21,119 --> 01:22:26,520
time that was explicitly showing that they're retroactively going back

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,399
and saying right.

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01:22:28,399 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: For I think for virtue signaling social justice reasons. Oh

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01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,760
everyone and they're all gay. Everyone was gay, right, I'm serious.

1487
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,239
Speaker 2: They're going to start saying like they're doing this with

1488
01:22:38,319 --> 01:22:41,079
Star Wars, right, they're rewriting Star Wars now to be

1489
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,680
all of these you know, women characters and whatnot, which

1490
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:46,159
is failing.

1491
01:22:46,279 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 3: There was another one recently too, where they tried to like, oh, yeah,

1492
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,199
these these trends are gay, by the way, No, that's

1493
01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:55,159
a that's a huge trend. Now. We were always we

1494
01:22:55,279 --> 01:22:58,359
were always this progressive. We promise we were. We were.

1495
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,439
We were trying, we were smashing the fash and fighting

1496
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:02,159
the patriarchy.

1497
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,199
Speaker 1: James Bond was always secretly gay. I'm serious.

1498
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like, that's coming, right, that's coming now.

1499
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,399
He was compensating. He was hyper compensating. Oh you know

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01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,199
what masculinity now that I think of it.

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01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,319
Speaker 2: When I had a Shakespeare class and office in grad

1502
01:23:19,359 --> 01:23:22,640
school or undergrad, but the professor who was total shit

1503
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,920
live like he was trying to argue that, oh.

1504
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: This is you know, Shakespeare's repressed, you know, queer whatever.

1505
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they just do this about everything. Everything is repressed,

1506
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,560
queer writing was gay, Yeah, exactly, this kind.

1507
01:23:39,399 --> 01:23:41,159
Speaker 3: Of stuff that's true.

1508
01:23:43,159 --> 01:23:45,520
Speaker 1: But they'll say it. I mean, they're blasphemous.

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01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 2: And they'll say about the Bible too, like, oh, I mean,

1510
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,000
I don't mean to be blasphemous, but they'll say, well,

1511
01:23:51,039 --> 01:23:54,479
when Jesus rests on John, the disciples breast, that's a

1512
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:59,279
clear sign of this is they're so gay, Like the

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01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,439
professors are so gay that they'll they'll everything is gay.

1514
01:24:03,319 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 3: That's a giant it becomes a giant projection. What's becomes

1515
01:24:09,279 --> 01:24:13,760
a huge projection, right exactly that I'm well, it's I

1516
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,840
mean that kind of relates to to the well, everybody's

1517
01:24:18,119 --> 01:24:22,199
everyone's a fed, everyone's a you know, look at these people.

1518
01:24:22,279 --> 01:24:25,279
They're they're Russian bots, they're they're taking money from Russia.

1519
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,520
Speaker 2: Remember Kinsey too, Remember when Kinsey put out his studies

1520
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:36,479
that vindicated the claim supposedly through quote science, which turns

1521
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,359
out it was all like fraudulent. But that allowed academia

1522
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,920
to say, oh, actually turns out everyone is gay.

1523
01:24:42,359 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: It's just a spectrum. Yeah.

1524
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 3: Well, like, well, Jim Jones, everyone is gay. Jim Jones

1525
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,039
whole thing was everyone is gay except him. Every man

1526
01:24:51,079 --> 01:24:53,520
in the world is gay except Jim Jones, and he

1527
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,279
would help to prove this to them by sodomizing the

1528
01:24:57,399 --> 01:25:01,600
men to prove to the It was like the most

1529
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,880
twisted thing. Everyone else is gay except me, and I'll

1530
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,439
prove it to you by doing gay acts to you.

1531
01:25:08,359 --> 01:25:11,000
I'll condescend to you because I'm such a good guy,

1532
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,079
and I'll prove to you that you're gay but I'm not.

1533
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,760
But I'll do the gross It's really gross, but I'll

1534
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:22,800
do it. It's like what h yeah, yeah, well hey man,

1535
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,560
let's uh, I'm gonna wrap it up. I want to

1536
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,079
take too much your time here, it's getting a little late.

1537
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,039
But yeah, I'd love to do some Uh you know

1538
01:25:31,079 --> 01:25:34,479
that we got that way Walter Littman and in Burnet's

1539
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,079
we get to tie that into something fun too, Tavistock,

1540
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:42,800
and tie that we can maybe do Beatles Tavistock. You know,

1541
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,079
there's a lot of connections there.

1542
01:25:44,359 --> 01:25:45,279
Speaker 1: If you don't have a.

1543
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:51,079
Speaker 2: A physical copy, I did find somebody uploaded the entire

1544
01:25:51,159 --> 01:25:53,840
audio of Coleman's Tavistoc book.

1545
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,039
Speaker 3: If you want that, let me check if I got

1546
01:25:56,039 --> 01:25:59,720
the physical copy. I'll let you know. I think I do.

1547
01:26:00,079 --> 01:26:02,520
Speaker 1: It is out by the way, it is reprinted, so

1548
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:03,920
you can't get the physical copy.

1549
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 3: I think I have a lot of books that are

1550
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,560
at my mother in law's house still that we want

1551
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,800
to get shipped. But yeah, I stored stored a lot

1552
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,319
of books there unless she got rid of them. She

1553
01:26:14,399 --> 01:26:16,079
might won't be mad if she got rid of them,

1554
01:26:16,319 --> 01:26:19,600
boxes and boxes of them. But yeah, well we'll do that.

1555
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:21,760
We'll do the thing. We'll do the thing. Ok, maybe

1556
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,760
we should do some some movie reviews to coming up.

1557
01:26:24,119 --> 01:26:26,119
Speaker 1: Absolutely great chat Man, thanks for cool.

1558
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got to you've got a show coming up

1559
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,520
tomorrow night? Or when you when are you gonna do

1560
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,960
your debate? Stream? You set up a debate today.

1561
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,520
Speaker 2: Afternoon because Cotel was streaming, and then I think Sunday

1562
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,920
I'll be on a show with Shane Cashman.

1563
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,399
Speaker 3: For that name, who's Shane Cashman?

1564
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:46,119
Speaker 1: It sounds familiar, Temple buddy libertarian guy.

1565
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: Oh can you get those get them rubles? Huh, I'm

1566
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:51,079
not sure.

1567
01:26:51,119 --> 01:26:52,039
Speaker 1: We wants to talk about.

1568
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: But you were your KG beanie on that one too.

1569
01:26:57,159 --> 01:27:01,640
I like that Jay's handler. Jay's Handler's out there. Anybody

1570
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,520
that has ever met Tim Poole, Now, I'm sure that

1571
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,600
people Tim Poole associate Russian and bought. Yeah, through six,

1572
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,760
you're gonna get six degrees of separation. I'm now a

1573
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,079
Tim Poole. Uh. You know, I I probably have a

1574
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:17,520
whole closet full of KG beanies because I know Jay,

1575
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,159
and Jay has personally met and been on Tim Pool.

1576
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 1: That was pretty funny. Mark Dice put up a picture

1577
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,079
of him wearing a beanie with like the Soviet.

1578
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,520
Speaker 3: That's funny. That's why I've got on the thumbnail here.

1579
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to Soviet beanie now that'd

1580
01:27:32,279 --> 01:27:34,199
be funny, Like next time if I go back.

1581
01:27:34,079 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 3: On, I don't even you can't even see it. But yeah,

1582
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,479
that's the background of the of our thing right here.

1583
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,560
We got James Bond from the from Russia with love

1584
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:48,000
with a with a KGB beanie on in honor of

1585
01:27:48,279 --> 01:27:54,159
In honor of comrade pool Well bro brother brother j Danovich,

1586
01:27:54,319 --> 01:27:56,159
we thank you very much for coming.

1587
01:27:58,079 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: I'll send you the Dugan coin.

1588
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 3: I you after this, Yeah, three three DGN coin three

1589
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:08,079
point zero DGN equals one beat DC in mad Russia.

1590
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:13,079
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