WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:14.439 Hmm. Welcome friends. 2 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:20.280 They are locked in a battle to the death, a 3 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:23.839 battle that they'll take them across the heavens stop, a 4 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:28.920 battle that will finally be fought. Brought me across the 5 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:33.960 face of Earth from a distant galaxy. They have come 6 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:39.320 to work. Dolph Landgren as he Man, Frank Langella as Skeletor. 7 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:45.039 Only they have the powers to be the masters of 8 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:47.840 the universe. Live the adventure. 9 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.479 Welcome to a movie film commentary track. My name is 10 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:03.759 Zachi Hasan and Brian Hall. Tell me about the loneliness 11 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:07.439 of good? Is it equal to the loneliness of evil? 12 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:10.920 I ask you that all the time? Yeah, he ask 13 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:12.640 me that all the time. Turns out it's a line 14 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:14.000 in this movie. I had no idea. 15 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:16.040 Yeah, that's just something you've always wondered. 16 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:17.359 I just constantly. 17 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:21.040 Yeah, And I've never known which side you thought I 18 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:21.599 was a part of. 19 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:26.120 So well, I'm asking about the loneliness of good. Right, 20 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:31.079 So they're therefore, oh, okay, by extension, right, we are 21 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.280 kind of like the he Man and Skeletor of the 22 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:41.040 podcasting scene. Sure, engaged in constant, lifelong battle, neither complete 23 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:41.760 without the other. 24 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:44.400 I think it tracks, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I like our 25 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:47.799 duality and thinking that together we could unlock the secrets 26 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:48.680 of Gray Skull. 27 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:51.680 Right, I think that is our lot in life. Yeah. 28 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.159 But you know, as we are recording this, we are 29 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:58.079 we are in the lead up to the big budget 30 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:02.359 new movie at saptation of Masters of the Universe, which 31 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.680 is I think, as we've discussed many a time on 32 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.280 this show, was not a sentence we expected to say. No. 33 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:12.280 I mean there's been starts and stops trying to make 34 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.639 this movie ever since we began this podcast fourteen years ago. 35 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:18.560 Or yeah, it was so Yeah, it's amazing. Like I 36 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.319 think you and I even said, until we're seated in 37 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.800 the movie was like unspooling in front of us, we 38 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:25.240 would wouldn't believe it. 39 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:29.439 But like the premiere has already happened. Yeah, even still, 40 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.520 I won't believe it till I am walking out of 41 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:31.919 the theater. 42 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:34.000 Hey, if it was a Warner Brothers movie, they could 43 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.159 still delete it. 44 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.840 It's just one hard drive away from never seeing the 45 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:42.759 light of day. Yeah, but hey, we thought this is 46 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:45.599 a perfect opportunity to go to dip into the archives 47 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:49.520 to almost forty years ago and watch and talk through 48 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.759 the only previous live action Masters of the Universe movie 49 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.280 nineteen eighty seven's Masters of the Universe. 50 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:58.800 Yeah, yeah, which we've talked about for a long time, 51 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.199 and I think it's kind of amazing that we get 52 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:03.599 to do it to celebrate the release of this new movie, 53 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:05.039 which I'm really looking forward to. 54 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.520 It's true, this is a movie I think, correct me 55 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:10.680 if I'm wrong you you did not see it as 56 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:11.080 a kid. 57 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.840 I have seen it in my life. As I was 58 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.159 watching it, I thought, I'm not sure I've ever seen 59 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.599 this all the way through. This is a movie that 60 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.960 would be on on a Saturday afternoon on WGN Channel 61 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.919 nine kind of a thing. Yeah, and I'm certain I've 62 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:31.360 seen chunks of this several times, but yeah, this might 63 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:32.960 be the first time all the way through. 64 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:37.960 Well, there you go. For me, I was seven going 65 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:41.599 on eight. I saw it in the theater when it 66 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:44.000 came out. I was in Edmonton. This is this is 67 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.199 kind of like a this is a canon event for 68 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:47.280 me totally. 69 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:48.719 I could I can imagine. 70 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:51.919 Not to say I think it's good necessarily, but boy 71 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.439 do I have a lot of affection for it. 72 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:55.159 Yeah. Well, you and I both grew up with the 73 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:58.000 he Man cartoon that I was obsessed with and I 74 00:03:58.000 --> 00:03:59.599 had the action figures. 75 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:02.360 And yeah, and this came out just in time to 76 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:06.719 not capitalize on any of that. I know, I know, 77 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:11.080 but we'll talk about that as we watch the movie. Yeah, so, hey, 78 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:13.199 if you want to watch along with us, this is 79 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.959 the nineteen eighty seven Masters of the Universe, the one 80 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:21.319 starring Dolflandgren and of course Frank Langella. If you want 81 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:23.079 to have that experience of watching along with us, you 82 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.720 certainly can do that. However, the best way to do that, Brian, 83 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.079 would be by subscribing to our Patreon feed. 84 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:30.800 Yes, if you head over to patreon dot com slash 85 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.319 Movie Film Podcast. Over there, you'll find a special feed 86 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:37.199 where it has all our episodes, all our commentaries absolutely 87 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:39.879 ad free, so you have no ads or interruptions, butting 88 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.040 in to the conversation, which is most important when we're 89 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:44.879 doing a commentary and you're trying to fall along with 90 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:45.879 a movie. 91 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.720 And if you just want to hear us talking, and 92 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.480 we'll try to keep the conversation interesting enough. But we're 93 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:51.879 gonna go ahead and do our thing right now, so 94 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:54.519 we'll do the usual. We'll start on three one two 95 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:58.240 three and play you ready, Brian, I'm ready and here 96 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:04.800 we go one, two, three play Canon pictures. 97 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.879 Yeah, I mean that could be its own feature length track. 98 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:10.519 Talking about I have to. 99 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:13.680 Say this was basically my first time seeing a Canon movie, 100 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:15.519 So I see that logo for the first time in theater, 101 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.680 I'm like, Wow, these guys must be the ones who 102 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.360 make the great movies, right right, right, And I will 103 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.600 say I wasn't necessarily wrong in that their movies are 104 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:31.560 great in a certain manner of speaking. Sure, sure they 105 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.000 represent a very specific era. 106 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.279 Yeah, yeah, and type of film a moment, a moment 107 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:39.519 if you will, in film a moment. 108 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:43.160 Yeah, this one, despite being a Canon picture, has a 109 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:47.639 conspicuous absence of ninjas and or Sylvester Stallone. So that's 110 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:50.519 Chuck Norris. 111 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:52.360 A beautiful painting here by the way. 112 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:53.079 There. 113 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:56.680 You know, there is a lot of great practical effects 114 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.600 work and Matt painting work in this movie that I 115 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:05.199 think has helped some of these effect sequences stand the 116 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:08.040 test of time more than I would have expected. I agree. 117 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.839 I mean, this is obviously a low budget film, but 118 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:18.240 working within their constraints, I think it's like pretty, you know, 119 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.800 enjoyable and admirable even you know what they do get 120 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:24.759 away with here. I mean even just like the this 121 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:26.600 is at the ending, but when they're having that battle 122 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.920 by the corner of the building, you know, at the end, 123 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.680 and then it gets teleported into Eternia and you see 124 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:36.560 just the corner of the building right in the throne room. 125 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:39.480 I was like, that's fun, that's cool, that's clever, and 126 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.639 it doesn't need to be big, but it sells the 127 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.160 spectacle of the story in a really practical way. 128 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.360 Yeah. I mean this movie when we talk about canon, 129 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:51.279 it came out within weeks of Superman four The Quest 130 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.800 for Peace, which is obviously a famous catastrophe. This one 131 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:58.920 was too, by the way they lost their shirts. They 132 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:03.480 took big bets on both Superman four and this, and 133 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:05.879 it basically helped to bring down the studio. 134 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.639 Right, And they had big plans had these succeeded, right 135 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:11.560 for a Spider Man movie. 136 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.519 That's right, it shot back to back with a sequel 137 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:15.759 to this, that would have been the plan. 138 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:21.399 Yeah, and they were gonna share sets apparently, and costumes. 139 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:25.600 And the director Albert Pion. Yeah. But but I think weirdly, 140 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:27.959 despite the fact that this came out, you know, in 141 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:33.199 proximity with Superman four that this one in terms of 142 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.720 the visual effects holds up better than Superman four. 143 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.120 Yeah, yeah, but I. 144 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:42.040 Want to be very clear. I mean it looks like 145 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.759 they had about eight dollars to rub together and other 146 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:48.040 than the set we're in right now, which is the 147 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.920 Gray Skull set, which is quite impressive. Yeah, one of 148 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:54.519 the biggest sets ever built up to that point. 149 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:58.199 Actually, yeah, right, it was like two stages together, right, 150 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.160 didn't they like smash a wall down right, extend a stage? Yeah? 151 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:04.199 Yeah, so very impressive. But what you realize is it's 152 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.519 basically this and that's it. They blew a big truck 153 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:08.639 of their budget. 154 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.560 On and like a street in Whittier, California. 155 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:17.720 They had no money for extras, right right, this ghost 156 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:22.360 town that our heroes end up in. Now now Frank Langela. 157 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.680 So when I watched this movie, I I don't believe 158 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.079 I had seen Rocky four yet, but I knew Dolph 159 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.080 and Grant from that, like I had seen images of him. 160 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:33.480 M hm. 161 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:35.720 So I was like, Okay, I did not know Frank 162 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.840 Langela for sure, No, but I remember the trailers in 163 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.600 the TV spots were like, Frank Langela is skeletor I 164 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:45.960 was like, oh wow, he must be a big deal. 165 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.559 If he is the is you know right right? 166 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:54.240 And and I will say, Frank Langela does a this, 167 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.559 this is comparable to Raoul Julia in Street Fighter. Hey, 168 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.960 I had the same thought. Yeah, my man up, yep, yep. 169 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.879 He is so fun to watch in this movie. 170 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:06.240 He is. 171 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:09.960 He's great. Apparently he rewrote big chunks of his dialogue. 172 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.000 Give him a big monologue. I believe all of that. 173 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:15.360 You see, I watched that documentary what was it, By 174 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.080 the Power of Gray Skull? Oh sure, sure, okay, yeah, 175 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:21.519 the he Man you know story about the whole franchise. Yeah, 176 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.000 it's like a ninety minute documentary and he's interviewed in 177 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.279 it and he talks about that where his son was 178 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.720 a fan of hem in the cartoon. He was offered 179 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:30.639 the movie and he's like, sure, yeah, I'll do this, 180 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.519 Like my son will really enjoy this. And what I 181 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:34.200 love is it wasn't like, all right, I just tell 182 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:36.240 me where to sit, you know, I'll just throw my 183 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.159 mustache and call it a day. Where's the catering table? 184 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.440 Like he dug into the script and was like, no, no, no, 185 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.679 let's let's try this. Like this might be better. Like, 186 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:48.240 he really invested in this and to this day talks 187 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.399 about it being one of his favorite roles he's ever played. 188 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:53.919 I would imagine that Franklin Jella has spent much of 189 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:58.639 the last forty years encountering people who are like I 190 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.759 love do eskeletor you know, like talk about a role 191 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.080 that lives on with the very specific demographic. 192 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.799 Right, absolutely, yeah. 193 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.039 I mean it's funny because a year ago you and 194 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.279 I were we talked through Superman Returns, which also features 195 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:19.120 Frank Langella, and and he could not have appeared more bored, right, Right, 196 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:24.279 So we sort of have the poles of Langella. 197 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:27.679 The poles of Langella. That sounds like a made up 198 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:34.360 mystical world, a fantasy novel. Load up the boats you 199 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:36.159 need to head to the poles of Langela. 200 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:39.240 You picture like a Frank Frazetta painted cover of some 201 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.360 barbarian or something, right exactly exactly so, So now here 202 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:45.960 is Eternia aka the Vasquez Rocks. 203 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:47.799 I was just gonna say, this is like twenty minutes 204 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:48.399 from my place. 205 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.240 They had a lot of big ideas about shooting somewhere, 206 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:55.879 you know, in Arizona or Montana or something they ended 207 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:58.879 up No, let's just do the Vasquaz rocks. 208 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:00.879 Yeah, which, by the way, it look great. I mean 209 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.799 they're very cinematic and are a lot of productions like, 210 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:06.960 they're very recognizable. 211 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:11.679 Very familiar. Yeah. So Dolph Lundgren, uh, he came with 212 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.000 with the package. Basically by the time Gary Goddard signed on, 213 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:22.120 he had one you know, major credit, which was Rocky four. 214 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:27.000 And so I think some of his his inexperienced shines through, 215 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:30.679 a lot of his inexperience shines through. Yeah. 216 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:36.200 And it wasn't there conditions about dubbing him, Yeah. 217 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.559 So well apparently so it was in his contract that 218 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.279 that if he was going to be dubbed, he was 219 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:49.240 going to be allowed to go do it three times. 220 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.200 Try it himself first before hiring another voice. 221 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:54.720 He would do his own looping before it would move. 222 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:57.559 You know, they bring somebody else in. Gary Goddard wanted 223 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:02.679 somebody else. Cannon did not. Mm hmm. I think Mattel 224 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:06.360 probably wanted somebody else too, And so essentially by virtue 225 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:09.399 of giving him three tries, that allowed him to you know, 226 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:11.840 to keep his to keep the job. And and I 227 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.240 think this is weird, right, because, like I don't think 228 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:18.039 his English is terrible in the movie. This is not 229 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.279 like early Schwarzenegger sounding right right, right, right, like in 230 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.559 terms of his ability to speak and and and enunci 231 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.240 and stuff. I think it's fine. It's just he's not 232 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:30.840 an experienced actor and so there isn't a lot of 233 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:34.240 emoting going on, and so there there is, well, there's 234 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:37.440 like zero internality for he Man in this movie. 235 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.279 Yeah, yeah, it's strange. He's almost a side character and 236 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:41.879 he is. 237 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:43.159 A secondary Yeah, it feels like it. 238 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:45.919 Yeah, and it do you think that is because of 239 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.279 Dolph Lungren trying to mask him a little. 240 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:49.559 Bit or. 241 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.200 That was like I was just thinking about, like, it's 242 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:55.879 strange that he Man doesn't make a very big impact 243 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.320 as a character in his own movie, right, and people 244 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.600 react to him in ways that don't quite make sense. 245 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.200 Like Courtney Cox bonds with him immediately and is like, 246 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:06.960 I'll miss you more than I've ever missed anyone before, 247 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.360 and I'm like, man, I don't remember them ever connecting really, 248 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:12.480 but you can imagine. 249 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:12.840 Him, you know. 250 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:15.879 But like I was thinking, you know, this is obvious, 251 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:17.919 but you can imagine someone like Chris Hemsworth in that 252 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:23.440 role and just the inherent charm that he brings, yeah, 253 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:26.639 before he even speaks like that would just make the 254 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:28.879 character feel a little bit more lived in and robust 255 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.320 and why people respond to him the way that they do. 256 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.720 And unfortunately with Lundren, I don't get that sense, and 257 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:35.840 you just have to roll with it. 258 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:40.159 Yeah. And certainly in the years since, the decades since, 259 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:43.240 I think he has gotten better as an actor. Yeah, 260 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.279 so kudos to him. I mean this is he was 261 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:49.080 in his like twenty seven twenty eight when he made this, 262 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.720 and he was basically signed on because he had a 263 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.960 blonde hair and a physicists. Yeah he fit the bill, 264 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:00.720 you know. Yeah. Yeah. Gary Goddard said it much that 265 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.399 the part of the reason he wanted somebody with the 266 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:08.799 presence of Franklingello was to sort of give ballast. Yeah, 267 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.960 and and sort of ends up being the eyes of 268 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.279 the story, like who we experienced the story too through, 269 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.919 which I think is somewhat true. You know, a couple 270 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.519 of years back, I mentioned a movie called Biggles. Do 271 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:28.240 you remember this? No reminder, it's about so there's a 272 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:34.200 series of books about a World War One pilot named Biggles. Okay, 273 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:36.559 and it's just it's just his Adventures. That's the series 274 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:38.320 of books. And they made a movie in the eighties 275 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:41.759 where they have an ad exec in the nineteen eighties 276 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:44.480 who is hit by lightning and ends up back in 277 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:47.919 time and meeting Biggles. Okay, and he keeps going back 278 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:51.960 and forth and encountering Biggles. And I remember seeing that 279 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.600 as a kid and being like, well, why aren't I 280 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:58.440 don't care about this guy, you know, like Big Old, 281 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.360 our main character is back there, you know, yeah. Yeah, 282 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.080 And so this is this does a little bit of 283 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:06.600 the Big Olds thing, Yeah, where where you know, we 284 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.120 have these these human characters who we sort of experienced 285 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:14.840 the story through, which is odd but somewhat understandable given 286 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:20.799 the time where you know, the the budget and effects 287 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.679 technology wasn't there to fully depict the world of he 288 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:25.519 Man as we know it or as we knew it. 289 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.919 The other thing is, when you think about it, I 290 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.200 mean this movie just drops us into the world. Yeah right, 291 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:33.720 And you. 292 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.440 Just get a narration at the beginning, really quickly trying 293 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:40.519 to say and it's very boilerplate, right yeah, yeah, uh. 294 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:44.000 And I think that says something about how much he 295 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:47.159 Man and and this mytho sort of existed in the 296 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.480 in the you know, in the in the ether at 297 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:53.360 that time, where it was just known. 298 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.120 Yeah, he man skeletal. Everybody kind of got it, even 299 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:58.919 though this it was waning by the time this movie 300 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:01.360 came out. I this is the thing. I don't think 301 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.519 it's it's possible to even summarize what a big freaking 302 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.720 deal Masters of the Universe was at its peak. Yeah. Yeah, 303 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.759 and so that's when this movie arrived. I just think 304 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:13.720 it came too late to capitalize on it, right. I 305 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:17.440 mean it's like it's like if the first Ninja Turtles 306 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.600 movie came out in like ninety four, right, yeah, right, yeah, 307 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:23.480 they just would have missed the window, right. 308 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.039 You know, man, they really did get on that. 309 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.159 I mean right away, right. I think they learned from this. 310 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:35.080 Yeah. But you know, it's interesting thinking of Superman four 311 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.200 and this movie coming out so close together and in 312 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:43.679 the public's imagination, that's what superhero movies are, that's right, right, 313 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:48.200 Like these sort of cheap, you know, ramshackle movies that 314 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.399 kids like and adults tolerate when they have to drag 315 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:54.279 them there on a Saturday afternoon, and only two years 316 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:56.600 later you would get Tim Burton's Batman. 317 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:59.360 Just resets the compass forever. 318 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.159 Yeah, like or at least to this day, right, and 319 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.720 then all of a sudden they're for everyone, right, and 320 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:07.880 they're taken more seriously, and they have bigger budgets and 321 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:08.960 they have more. 322 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.160 Scope, and they're more sophisticated. 323 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:16.000 It's crazy, like to imagine, like we're just living in 324 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.839 that universe now and it's just watching this reminded me 325 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.079 that like, oh, this is what people thought superhero movies 326 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:25.079 were for a while, and now it's something where like 327 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:28.319 everyone checks them out, they're taken seriously. They're the highest 328 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:32.279 grossing movies of the year. You know, my parents watched them. 329 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:37.920 You know, it's Batman eighty nine really did change at everything. 330 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.200 So so two points here. First of all, Christina Pickles, 331 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:47.599 who plays the Sorceress, just just what seven years later 332 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:53.559 she would play Monica's mom on Friends? Yeah right, little 333 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.640 could she have known? Right? Isn't it funny both of them? Right, 334 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:59.319 like their lives were intertwined from this moment. 335 00:17:59.640 --> 00:17:59.960 Yeah. 336 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.599 Yeah. The other thing is is you think John Cipher, 337 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.319 who plays Man at Arms, felt embarrassed wearing a helmet 338 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.680 that looks like you could buy it at the toy isle, 339 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:12.759 like a Costco at an Osco at jewel Osco. Right right, right, 340 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:15.839 doesn't it look like that? Like it definitely does. 341 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.640 Yeah, which, speaking of costumes and everything, I mean this 342 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:24.279 skeletor face design that is great is amazing because it 343 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:28.359 does look like a skull, but it doesn't look it 344 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:30.960 looks like its own thing at the same time. Yeah, 345 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:37.319 and it allows Langella to emote that's right, you know, 346 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:40.079 like we get a real clear look at his eyes 347 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:44.119 and he's able to have some physicality in his face 348 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.119 with it. Like it's just as great, perfect design. Yeah. 349 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.400 So the makeup design for this film was by Michael Westmore, 350 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.319 who would go on to become the guy for Star 351 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.000 Trek from nineteen eighty seven to two thousand and five. 352 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:01.599 So you know when you look at Wharf and Data 353 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:05.559 and the Borg and all those, that's all Michael Westmore, right, uh, 354 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.799 and you see you see that in the skeletor face here. 355 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.319 If I'm not mistaken, this this skeletor mask ended up 356 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:16.519 in a Next Generation episode and ins Holo deck scene. Yeah. 357 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.480 Oh wow, yeah, yeah. 358 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:19.119 Well why not? 359 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:20.960 It looks great. 360 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:23.920 I mean this set looks great too, you know, I 361 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:25.200 think it's pretty sweet. 362 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:30.400 I think so. See, I I think, as I said before, right, 363 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.599 if if you just look at this set, you're like, man, 364 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:34.920 look at the scale for this movie, right m hm. 365 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:39.279 But like I said, once we moved past Eternial, you're like, oh, 366 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:43.759 they spent all their money on gray skull, right right. 367 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:46.559 Oh. 368 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:48.319 I wanted to mention, by the way, Meg Foster, who 369 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.839 plays Evil in Yeah, I mean just these amazing eyes, 370 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.599 right oh yeah yeah yeah, and you and when you 371 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:57.160 read about it, you're like, yeah, that's why she got 372 00:19:57.160 --> 00:19:59.319 the part is because she's got these amazing eyes. 373 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.200 I mean for people can't see them. I mean they're 374 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:06.039 just this really interesting and unique, like icy blue gray. 375 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:11.119 I've never seen eyes that that color ever other than her. 376 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.039 I mean it's it's uh it looks like she's wearing 377 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:15.359 special contacts or something. 378 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:17.799 That that was her actual ideolol, that's just her. She's Yeah. 379 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:19.640 Well I was gonna say she's in They Live also, 380 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:20.319 is what I know. 381 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:23.799 Yes, that's right, yeah, yeah, uh yeah. They were talking 382 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.160 about Sarah Douglas, who played Ursa in the Superman films, 383 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.759 playing Evil Linn and I, yeah, I say, I can 384 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:32.680 absolutely see that. But I'm sure she was like, can 385 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:36.119 I not make a career out of standing next to 386 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.200 a guy who keeps wanting people to kneel in front 387 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:38.519 of him. 388 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.240 That's yeah, you're right, sah. 389 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:44.920 But Meg Foster is great. I love her as evil 390 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:46.559 in Yeah. 391 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:50.680 She doesn't have a ton to do, but speaking, you know, 392 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:54.400 the opposite of what I was saying about duff Lungren. 393 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.839 She brings so much in her stars and her smirks 394 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.680 and her the way she the postures her body like 395 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:03.640 she's bringing a lot and. 396 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:09.079 Making that charcter very memorable. I love. 397 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:13.039 I think these eighties effects look cool. They fit within 398 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:13.759 this film. 399 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:14.960 I agree with that. 400 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.519 Yeah, yeah, I think even down to just real quick 401 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:23.400 the Sorceress, Yeah, just that really subtle effect of having 402 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:28.200 a light overhead, you know, making her look illuminated and 403 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:29.759 trapped in that light like that. 404 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.880 That's easy. Anyone could do that, but like it's. 405 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:41.319 Imaginative, you know, and it feels otherworldly and like she's 406 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:43.559 trapped in a beam of light. And I just feel 407 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:45.880 like you don't need something like to animate all these 408 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.759 other extra things going around her. Like that is enough 409 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:50.480 and it looks really cool and I think is a 410 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:52.279 smart use of their budget. 411 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:57.200 That's really true. I think that by working within their limitations, 412 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:02.200 you become less obvious of where those imitations are. And 413 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:05.720 and you know, I think that certainly for me seeing 414 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:09.880 this as a kid, I didn't grock that this was 415 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:13.960 a very low budget movie. Yeah right, you know, and 416 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.599 I again, now it's very clear. Like I said, man 417 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:22.000 at arms wearing that jewel Osco helmet, Yeah yeah, that 418 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:25.559 just sticks out. It does look like army helmet, yeah 419 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.279 right exactly. Like you know, I was like, does he 420 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:32.559 feel embarrassed during that? It is amusing to me how 421 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:35.839 much of this film is spent on gwildor doing something 422 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:39.720 and the other characters being like, oh, gwildor. 423 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:47.559 That's a lot I know, which he is totally fine. 424 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:49.400 I guess he's team WORKO. 425 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:51.759 I was just gonna say, right, because that character was 426 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:57.119 too difficult for them to realize within their budget, I guess. 427 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:01.640 Yeah, so so too too. Glaring missions are Orco and 428 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:06.200 Battlecat yeah right right, which I suppose we should be 429 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.119 grateful they didn't try to put either of them in. 430 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:11.839 Yeah yeah, yeah, like these stock images of a tiger 431 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:13.119 that they painted green. 432 00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:16.799 Right exactly. I don't even know what that would look like. 433 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:20.240 Yeah, but I guess said ghul door does. I mean, 434 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.920 the performance is really good, I'm not sure. I'm crazy 435 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.680 about the design, Like it sort of looks like a 436 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:29.920 toy that's been partially melted in the sun, you know 437 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.720 what I mean, versus like a real distinct, definitive design 438 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:34.759 of like a character. 439 00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:39.079 There's a bit later where he's like guzzling down barbecue 440 00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:43.799 sauce or whatever. Yeah, and I'm just picturing what the 441 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:48.920 actor must have been going through, Yeah, with just just 442 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:50.640 gunk call over his suit. You know. 443 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:53.519 I do think about that a lot when you see 444 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.599 suits like this and they have hair and sort of 445 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:58.119 fine parts to it, and when they do don't get 446 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:00.680 in a river or they pour barbecue sauce over the beard. 447 00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:03.839 I'm like, yeah, it's maybe it's funny, you know in 448 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:05.559 the movie, but like, was that a pain in the 449 00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:11.039 butt to yeah, reset and clean up or whatever? Dry clean? 450 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:16.160 I don't know. But Billy Bardy playing Guilder, who I 451 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.759 think of as the cameraman from Jeff, I mean, he's 452 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:20.079 in a lot of things, but that's wow. 453 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.039 I forgot he's in u ahef see. I know him 454 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:24.599 from this and the year after this he was in 455 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:30.200 Willow right right, which that's the that's the other thing 456 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:35.720 because Willow, of course stars Warwick Davis, who was the Leprechaun, 457 00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:39.319 which starred Jennifer Aniston. M hm, And so I wonder, like, 458 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:42.519 does Courtney Cox think of this movie in her filmography 459 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:46.200 the way Jennifer Aniston thinks of probably thinks of Leprechaun. 460 00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:48.759 You know what's funny. I was a little dismayed. I 461 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.920 saw an interview with Sarah Jessica Parker and she was 462 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:54.519 being interviewed about all I think it was called Random Rules, 463 00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:57.440 and they asked her about Flight of the Navigator, like, Ah, 464 00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:58.960 do you have any memories from working on that when 465 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.440 you were younger? And she was like like, no, I 466 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:03.240 don't remember that at all. Why would you even. 467 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:04.039 Ask me that? 468 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:06.200 Like paraphrasing, but she had like kind of a weird 469 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:10.000 attitude about it, And so it's interesting some people want 470 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.400 to distance themselves from those things, and you wonder for 471 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.359 Courtney Cox, she I don't know, but maybe it's like, hey, yeah, 472 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.240 that was exciting. It was a one of my first roles. Well, 473 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:19.640 I think she had done before that was the Bruce 474 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.799 Springsteen music video where she's dancing on stage and this 475 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:24.359 well no, that's not true. 476 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.480 She had been in a television show called Misfits of Science. Oh, okay, well, 477 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:31.920 I mean films, but yeah, yeah, Misfits Science, Yeah, which 478 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:33.839 is I only know this and that was probably like 479 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.880 eighty four eighty five, and it starred Dean Paul Martin, 480 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.680 who was the son of Dean Martin, okay, and it 481 00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:45.000 starred the guy who the guy played the Predator Okay, 482 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:48.400 I forget his name, Paul, yeah, the tall guy yeah, 483 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.160 and Max right, okay, right, And basically it was like 484 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.359 X Men, but for you know, network television. 485 00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.200 Interesting, okay, and I it was a fun. 486 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.079 Showed last like thirteen episodes. But I only know it 487 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:04.519 because I saw this in summer of eighty seven. And 488 00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:08.680 Courtney Cox is very distinctive. She was speaking of distinctive eyes, right, 489 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:11.240 her eyes stay with me, and I knew her name, 490 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:13.359 and then I came, you know, that was in Edmonton, 491 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.880 came back to Saudi Arabia and wouldn't you know they 492 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:19.200 were showing Misfits of Science on TV. I'd never seen 493 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:19.640 it before. 494 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:21.240 Yeah, I've never heard of it. 495 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:23.799 And so summer of eighty seven was when I first 496 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:28.000 saw alf and this, so I knew both Max Right 497 00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.480 and Courtney Cox because. 498 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.279 Of this, and that is amazing. 499 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:36.240 Kevin Peter Hall, that's the Predator actor's name, okay, right, right, right, Yeah, 500 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.599 he passed away shortly. Gosh, I think after the second 501 00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:40.440 movie he passed away. 502 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:42.799 Oh wow, okay. 503 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.759 You know about that. He was in like a car accident, 504 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:49.240 I believe, and he was given HIV infected blood. 505 00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:53.079 Oh my gosh, heal this but I didn't remember that. Wow, 506 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:53.799 that is sad. 507 00:26:54.000 --> 00:27:00.839 Yeah, Robert, Robert duncan McNeil, he uh just actually, right 508 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.799 around the same time Courtney Cox was on Friends, he 509 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.400 would star on Star Trek Voyager and oh he did 510 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.240 all right there, he's now a TV director. He does 511 00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:10.119 pretty well for himself. 512 00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:10.839 That's great. 513 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.160 Now. I have to say, both of these actors do 514 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.960 a good job with what they're given in this movie. 515 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:20.640 I completely agree. They're fun. Yeah, yeah, I. 516 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:22.640 Think you know, we were talking about like whether like 517 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:27.119 like Jennifer Anston probably looks back with embarrassment at Leprechaun, 518 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:32.279 and I'm like, well, Courtney Cox, she gets actually a 519 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:36.640 full range of emotion to portray in this film. Sure, yeah, 520 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.880 nothing to be embarrassed about. I don't think, you know. 521 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.000 Yeah, yeah, she does do kind of an old school move. 522 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:43.799 I feel like we don't see much anymore, which is 523 00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:46.640 the like standing and screaming and gripping your hair and 524 00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.400 face thing. I think she gets like a couple of those. 525 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:52.720 But like, hey, if if the ghost of your mom 526 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.440 turns into evil Lynn, that's what you'd do too, right right. 527 00:27:57.960 --> 00:27:59.680 Which, by the way, going back a little bit, you 528 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.319 were talking talking about Dolph Lungern possibly having to have 529 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:09.440 his role or his performance dubbed over by another actor. Yeah, 530 00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:12.200 when was the last time something like that has happened, 531 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:14.559 like a major character in the film. I mean, I 532 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.559 think of Schwarzenegger in the Hercules movies, right, and like 533 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.319 older films. But is that something that's happened in recent memory? 534 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.279 Not recent recent, but I mean this is not too 535 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:28.559 see Look at that. Look at the barbecue sauce on 536 00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:33.079 his chin and stuff. So gross. I know. In Flash 537 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.839 Gordon nineteen eighty so too long before this, Sam J. Jones, 538 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.400 who plays Flash Gordon, his voice was dubbed. It's a 539 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:40.559 completely dubbed performance. 540 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:41.119 Oh wow. 541 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:43.519 And then in I believe it was nineteen eighty three 542 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:45.880 or four, there's a movie called Gray Stoke. The Legend 543 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:50.880 of Tarzan, right, which that has Christoph f Lambert as Tarzan. 544 00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.279 His voice is not dubbed. However, Jane is played by 545 00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:57.400 Andy McDowell and her voice is dubbed by Glenn Close. 546 00:28:58.039 --> 00:28:58.880 I did know that. 547 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.319 Yeah, yeah, okay, wait, I want to talk about this 548 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.839 scene real quick. Yeah. So we're establishing the people on 549 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:09.039 Eternia are vegetarian, I guess, right, yeah, But here's the thing. 550 00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.480 Man at Arms is like fully on board. He's like, 551 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.599 oh yeah, he knows exactly what. He's like, Oh, that's 552 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:16.400 a rib bone, and he's having a grand old time. 553 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:20.680 So I'm like, well, what is the what is the 554 00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:27.160 meal structure on Eternia? Thinking about this, you know what 555 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:28.359 I mean? Maybe he travels. 556 00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:31.240 He's well traveled, or he was in the military at 557 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.759 some point and they, you know, spent time in other worlds, 558 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.400 and he knows other cultures that Eternia isn't familiar with. 559 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:40.599 I don't know, see the way Tila is like, how 560 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.000 could you eat animals? What? 561 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:43.559 What? You know? 562 00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:48.119 Like it's barbaric. But Man at Arms isn't like, well, 563 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.000 you gotta do it right, right, He's like, oh, like 564 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:57.440 so in other words, he loves the taste of flesh 565 00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:58.440 is what I'm saying. 566 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:02.440 Which is hilarious because I'm thinking like, oh, that sounds 567 00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:04.240 so horrifying, but I'm like, wait, no, so do I 568 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:12.559 That is funny though. 569 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.960 Yeah, I've spent a lot of time, like maybe too 570 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.240 much time thinking about that again, right, Like in the 571 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.519 cartoon show, they're having banquets and they're eating like chicken stuff. 572 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:27.440 There's plenty of drumsticks I've seen in the cartoons, so 573 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:29.599 you know, this is clearly meant to be doing something different. 574 00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:31.759 Yeah, Like it's showing them as fish out of water, 575 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.279 like where they don't know what a cow is. Yeah, 576 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:40.920 you know, and yeah, you know, just looking at this 577 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.680 shot in the cemetery and kind of how beautiful it is. 578 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.359 I was going to remark earlier, you know, with the 579 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.799 limitations we're talking about that this film's working with, I 580 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:53.000 do feel like there's something to be said about the filmmaking, 581 00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:58.640 like some good camera work being shot on film, which 582 00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:03.680 just gives an cinematic sheen to everything. I feel like 583 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.079 a lot of those things, the fact that it's lit 584 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.680 well right, you know, go a long way and helping 585 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.880 to sell whatever they have to work with here. 586 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:16.000 Also, so credit to that. Now, now you have many 587 00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.359 a time commented and how how one of one of 588 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.000 your favorite places in movies is the fantasy outside your window? 589 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:28.200 Mm hmm yep, So so does this tickle your fancy there? 590 00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.880 One hundred percent? I even thought about it. Where you 591 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.640 have you know, this futuristic you know, army of like 592 00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:40.359 robot soldiers and these floating vehicles marching down a suburban 593 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.799 downtown street like that is just chef's kiss for me. 594 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.519 Absolutely, it would have been nice to see at least 595 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.359 a few people on the on said streets. 596 00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.599 Yeah, dropping their shopping bags and be like oh and 597 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:54.279 running away. 598 00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:57.359 Absolutely No, we needed one guy being like, well that's 599 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:04.240 not something you see every day. That's hilarious. 600 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:08.680 Wait, so when you were a kid then and you 601 00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.559 were a huge fan of the cartoon, and then you're 602 00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:15.359 getting to see the movie where you disappointed that it didn't, 603 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.720 you know, the locations didn't resemble what you were used 604 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:18.480 to from the cartoon. 605 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.720 See this, This is what's so interesting is that. So yes, 606 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.400 I was dare I say, I was probably a he 607 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.480 Man fan longer than you by like a year or so, 608 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.799 because I got in before the cartoon. 609 00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.599 Oh yeah, for sure, And I mean even since, like 610 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.839 you've seen all the other ones, and absolutely I look 611 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.240 to you as the masters of the universe experts. 612 00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.640 Yeah, I mean I've said this before. Like, so that 613 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.559 first batch of figures, I got them. I didn't even 614 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:49.960 need the cartoon to get me in. I was like 615 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.359 three or four, you know, I had he Man skeletor Merman, 616 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.160 Man at Arms, beast Man like this is the first wave, right, 617 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.160 And then the cartoon started a year or so later. 618 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.759 And I remember seeing the cartoon and being like, I 619 00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:05.759 didn't think, like, this toy that I played with is 620 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.799 a thing on my TV now, Like I've never seen 621 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.000 that before, you know. Yeah, but bear in mind, I 622 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:16.400 I during the eighties. What I was used to was 623 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.599 this thing that you play with or that you read 624 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.759 in a comic or whatever. Never is never like this 625 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:26.759 when you see it on the TV. M. So, yes, 626 00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:30.880 there is the Incredible Hulk, but his name is David 627 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.400 Banner and his origin is totally different, and he doesn't talk, 628 00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:35.799 and and I was just like, well, that's just how 629 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.920 it is, right, right. Oh, here's Spider Man on TV, 630 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.200 but there's no Uncle Ben and he doesn't swing a lot. 631 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.119 And that's just how it is, you know, I mean 632 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.359 it's you know, so when I saw this, I was 633 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.480 literally I mean I was seven, yeah, and I was like, well, 634 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:53.480 that's just how it is. I was like her, it's 635 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:55.079 really weird. I was like, oh, well, he man doesn't 636 00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.839 have the furry underwear and the you know, and he's 637 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.359 got a cake for some reason. And well that's just 638 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:01.000 how it is, you. 639 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:03.640 Know, hard lessons at a young age, it really like. 640 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.839 And it wasn't even like me being upset. I was like, 641 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:11.239 oh yeah, how else would it be, you know, yeah, 642 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.000 yeah yeah, And so I was just like listen, like 643 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.920 like here, like right here, we have Skeletor's goon squad, 644 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:27.920 which is composed of who huh and beast Man. Yeah yeah, yeah, 645 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.320 yeah right. And it's like, well, I'm just glad we 646 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.960 got beast Man. I guess. You know. That kind of. 647 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.400 Reminds me for me, you know, with the the Ninja 648 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.760 Turtles movie, right, and You're like, and now let's spend 649 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:39.880 some time with Danny. 650 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.320 Yeah, I'm like, really, who's Danny? Like seriously? 651 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:44.559 Right? 652 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.880 Like like when when that's actually a great example, like 653 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.480 when Ninja Turtles one came out, I don't know, about you. 654 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.840 But I was like not even expecting the technodrome or craying, 655 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.280 right right right. I was like, of course you're not 656 00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.239 going to get that, you know. Yeah, And and you 657 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.840 know the fact that, like I guess it's like ten 658 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:02.840 years old now, right, they did the sequel Out of 659 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.159 the Shadows, the sequel to the Michael Baywin and we 660 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.880 got the technodrome and craying in the big suit and whatever. 661 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.840 I was like, holy shit, yeah, because we've never seen 662 00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:12.280 that before. 663 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:13.000 So I. 664 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:16.800 Was just like, well, this is just what it is, 665 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.039 you know, And I was fine with that. I think 666 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.559 I was more disappointed that we never got at that 667 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:26.199 time he Man and Skeletor toys that looked like the 668 00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:27.719 he Man and Skeletor in this movie. 669 00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.679 Yeah, I was reading about that. Apparently they did make 670 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.039 a couple toys they did based on the side characters, 671 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.719 but not the movie versions of the main characters. 672 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:42.000 That's right, So they did. They had gwildor Blade and Saurod, 673 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.679 and I remember those toys because they had the Masters 674 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.440 of the Universe packaging, but they had like film strip images. 675 00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:51.119 I kind of remember this. 676 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:55.000 Yeah, yeah, I guess what I've read is that there 677 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:57.320 was some kind of a rights issue where they didn't 678 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.679 make the right deal with William Stout, who's the production designer, 679 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.880 to include toys, which seems like kind of a major 680 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.239 foul up if if it's a toy based you know, 681 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.760 they you know. But I remember, like a year or 682 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:15.800 so after this movie, I mean, this is this movie 683 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.719 came out as the as Masters of the Universe was 684 00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.519 breathing its last right, So about a year or so 685 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:22.920 later you had like I want to say, it was 686 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.000 like laser he Man who had like the mullet, like 687 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.760 like dolf one Grand and a cape and he looks 688 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.800 close ish to the he Man in this movie. That's 689 00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:35.960 the closest they got. But by then, I mean, the 690 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.800 misfortune about the timing is that there's like a variety 691 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.039 of factors. But this one came out right as the 692 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:48.039 toy line was dying out, and I think Mattel, well, 693 00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.239 I guess Mattel and Cannon, We're both hoping it would 694 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.960 reverse their respective fortunes. Right, didn't happen, So it ends 695 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.719 up being sort of the one of the last nails. 696 00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:01.440 And then like a year later, the Ninja Turtles show 697 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:03.559 up and that's it. 698 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.679 Then yep, yep, right, and amazing that they have never 699 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:07.519 really gone away. 700 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.679 That's interesting. I yeah, I Other than there was probably 701 00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.119 like a five year spell I would say, from like 702 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.639 ninety seven to two hm. That was like a right 703 00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:19.880 because because you had the original show, which went from 704 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.320 like eighty seven to ninety seven or thereabouts, right, and 705 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:27.599 then at some point there was the that live action show. 706 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:29.079 Do you remember that? I do? 707 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:33.320 Yeah, yeah, when they had the the female Turtle that's right, 708 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:37.920 Venus de my Lenus yep, yep, yep, yeah, and then 709 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:39.920 and then but it basically went away, and then I 710 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.360 think in O two they had that that new series. 711 00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.360 Yeahah over a Nickelodeon. 712 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.400 No, No, before the Nickelodeon there was a Nickelodeon had 713 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.440 the CG animated one. Okay, but before that there was 714 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.079 like it was it was it was before Nickelodeon bought 715 00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.320 the Turtles anyway, my point, Yeah, you're right, there was 716 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.599 like this brief lull, which is simi to what the 717 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.639 Transformers had earlier in the nineties. And that's why from 718 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.880 them from the eighties you got Transformers and Turtles. Those 719 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.400 are the only ones that have like consistently lasted. 720 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:10.800 That's really interesting. 721 00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.559 Like he Man. If not for he Man, you don't 722 00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.760 get g I Joe, you don't get Transformers, you don't 723 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:21.159 get Turtles because he wrote he Man wrote the playbook, right, 724 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:22.960 you have a toy line, you come up with the 725 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.880 animated thing, and then bah blah blah blah. This fight 726 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:26.360 scene that's coming up here, by the way, I really 727 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:28.960 like it. It's shot, well, you got these great kind 728 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.960 of you know, the red and the light, the red 729 00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:34.039 and the green lights. 730 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.639 That's what I'm saying, right, I mean, if this was 731 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.960 shot for twenty dollars, it sure doesn't look like it, 732 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.039 you know, I mean, because it's executed well. 733 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:46.840 Well, I think what helps is that the people making 734 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:50.840 it weren't looking down on it. They were and it's 735 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.800 not like they were coming at it as fans necessarily 736 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.599 because they weren't. It's not like they grew up with 737 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.960 It's not like Travis Knight making this new one right right, right, 738 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.320 who's like part of the he Man generation. But you know, 739 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.599 Gary Godter talked about how, you know, he got the 740 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.360 gig because he had done the like the Conan Stunt 741 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:10.840 Show for Universal. Oh interesting, right, and he was at 742 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.159 the time he was developing Captain Power for Mattel Oh wow, okay, 743 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.920 which that show started in fall of eighty seven, so 744 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.559 shortly after this movie came out. But he talked about it. 745 00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:25.840 He was inspired by you know, Frank Frizetta paintings and like, 746 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.440 and he's actually said the the the Fourth World characters 747 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.000 from d C that Jack Kirby creates, like dark Side 748 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.679 and and and you know Oryan and all that. You know, 749 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.760 and you've seen dark Side, right, Like that's basically what 750 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.760 Skeletor is doing. You talk about Doctor Doom. How Skeletor 751 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.480 is like a Doctor Doom totally very you can very 752 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.639 much see that. Uh. And so my point is like 753 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:52.760 he he was still trying to he he wasn't looking 754 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:58.679 down on it, like for example, you know, you know 755 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:03.440 Richard Lester doing Superman sequels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, where it's 756 00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.320 clear that he was like, well, I can't take any 757 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:07.320 of this seriously, you know. 758 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:07.719 Yeah. 759 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.519 Yeah, he's winking a little bit. 760 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.519 Winking exactly like I think this fight sequence is good. 761 00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:13.280 Yeah. 762 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:18.239 It's interesting is that initially they had been Mattel basically 763 00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.159 had veto power over over I need decisions, right, So 764 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:25.519 they're like, well, he Man can't hurt anybody or kill anybody. Sure, 765 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:31.400 and Goddard is like, well, Jesus Christ, what we're supposed 766 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.360 to do? You know? Yeah, and that's why they came 767 00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:36.599 up with the Black Stormtrooper. Guys, yeah, there are robots, 768 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:38.840 I guess right, yeah, they're robots, so you know. And 769 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:40.440 and then everybody looks at it and they're like, oh, 770 00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:41.719 it's a Star Wars rip off. And He's like, I 771 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.159 didn't want to put I didn't want to put them 772 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:43.599 in there. 773 00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.480 You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you do 774 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.800 feel intentional or not a real Star Wars influence. 775 00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.880 Well, I mean that That's the funny thing is that 776 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:56.800 Star Wars is itself partly the origin of Masters in 777 00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:01.880 the Universe as a concept. Sure, because Lucasfilm went to 778 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.199 Mattel first and for the toys back in the seventies, 779 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.960 and Mattel is like, the hell is this right? Get 780 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:14.559 out it, get out of here, close the door behind you. 781 00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.679 They said, probably, you know, and then cut to nine 782 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:22.960 months later they're like huh yeah, yeah, so they were 783 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.039 like chasing that dragon, right, and so's they were. They 784 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.840 were literally like, why are we trying to license something 785 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:31.519 that we hope will be the next Star Wars. Want 786 00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:33.039 we just create our own thing and then roll the dice. 787 00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:35.679 And so that's what leads to Masters of the Universe. 788 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.320 And that's all in the documentary, I'm sure, which is 789 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.960 very interesting. I definitely, Oh it's worth watching. Yeah, And 790 00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:45.079 so this is like ten years later, and it's just weird, right, 791 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:52.039 how all it all intersects. You cannot disentangle Star Wars 792 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.880 from the breadth of eighties pop culture totally. Everything is 793 00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:58.760 either trying to be it or trying not to be 794 00:41:58.840 --> 00:41:59.960 it right. 795 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.920 Right, and this is only four years after Return of 796 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:03.840 the Jedi, I know. 797 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:08.519 Yeah, there were commercials, like certainly in the UK where 798 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:11.880 it's like the Star Wars of the eighties. I'm like, well, 799 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:13.840 we already had the Star Wars of the eighties. Yeah. 800 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.719 Star Wars is Star Wars of the eighties. Yeah, exactly. 801 00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.159 Which, by the way, from that last battle, I was 802 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.039 thinking this the other night watching this. Say what you 803 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:27.320 will about special effects from the seventies or eighties, they yeah, 804 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.920 from the beginning, really nailed blaster fire. Yeah, it looks 805 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:33.840 great in Star Wars. It looks great in this movie. 806 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.559 Something about the way that it actually looks like it's 807 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.800 in the environment and the speed that it's going from 808 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:43.000 the gun to its target. Yeah, they've always been really 809 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:43.400 good at that. 810 00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:46.920 Well, and this is something you and I talked about 811 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.760 just recently. But animated lightning. Yes, there's plenty of animated 812 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.760 lightning in this movie, and I'm all about that. Yeah, 813 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:54.159 me too. 814 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:56.840 Now this is cool effect too, by the way, I 815 00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.119 mean just this, I agree, little fireworks display over the 816 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.440 the key. And by the way, look usually in a 817 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.199 special effects shot like that in the eighties, the visual 818 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.199 is a little degraded because they've had to, like you know, 819 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.559 optically put the effect on it and reprint the frame 820 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:15.800 and all that stuff. But that was really clean and 821 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:17.760 I was really admiring that, and the and the shot 822 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.719 earlier with Courtney Cox too when they're using the key. 823 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.039 Well, this is something you know. Richard Edlind who did 824 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:29.280 the effects, he mastered the effects on sixty five, so 825 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:36.119 they are high, high resolution. Yeah, and talk about forward thinking. Yeah, 826 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.000 it looks great because you don't see a degradation whenever 827 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.599 we switched to these effects shots totally. And I also noticed, 828 00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.719 especially on the one with the guy in Courtney Cox, 829 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.400 the light was dancing on their faces, so someone in 830 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.880 the location thought to put some sort of little strobe 831 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.519 effect on their face so it looks like the you know, 832 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:59.800 they're actually interacting with the effect, which is really smart. Okay, 833 00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:03.840 so here, So so Julie has been a couple of 834 00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:08.000 things here actually, like what are they doing at the 835 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:12.599 gym where it's like a sound check where nobody's there, 836 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:14.760 and he's like, I'm gonna do this thing now. Bear 837 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:20.880 in mind he's gonna he's his Julie is leaving like tomorrow, right, yes, 838 00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.400 so you're telling me, bro can't wait like a day 839 00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:28.960 to have this synthesizer quote unquote looked at right, They 840 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.840 as to leave his girlfriend there. But but so she's 841 00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.199 being chased by these weirdos in various stages of undress 842 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:39.440 and then he man shows up and and he's like 843 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.599 trust me, and I'm like, well why, I mean, he 844 00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:43.239 looks just like those other guys. 845 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.119 I was thinking that too, Like she's very like immediately 846 00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:48.559 like sure, and then just kind of hugging him and feeling, 847 00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.320 you know, protected by him. But I was like, yeah, 848 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.480 if I saw anybody look like they stepped out of 849 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.320 a science fiction story at this. 850 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.119 Point, Like you see him standing next to Blade. Yeah, 851 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:01.400 I don't know. They both look like they're on the 852 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:03.079 same team if you don't know any better. 853 00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:04.320 Yeah, but. 854 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.480 We know what they're doing here. Yeah, so James Tolkien, 855 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.199 now this is this is a year after Top Gun 856 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.599 and two years after Back to the Future. So my 857 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.880 man's having a moment. Yep. And what I love is 858 00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.440 that he's playing this like hard as nails. Brooklyn, cop 859 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.199 in like the most quiet town in America. 860 00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.480 Yeah, like southern California suburbs. 861 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:32.719 Do we even know that this is California? 862 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:36.719 Well no, but I just yeah, they never say, right. 863 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.440 It is very funny though, Yeah, yeah, his accent. 864 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.960 And what's funny to me is like I feel like 865 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.000 this character lubic, like he's got some kind of an 866 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.719 arc that they just missed out on. Yeah. 867 00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.760 You could get that sense throughout the whole movie that 868 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:54.920 there's probably a lot more that they wanted to do, 869 00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.320 but they just couldn't budget it, so they whittled it 870 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:02.320 down to what they absolutely could carry out. 871 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:03.159 See. 872 00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:07.599 Yeah, I oh, I definitely agree with that. I think that, uh, 873 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.559 they were probably very happy to get him because he 874 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.719 was a pretty familiar face and he'd been in some 875 00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.960 pretty big deal movies. I just say the first time 876 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.800 I saw him was in this because I saw both 877 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:19.480 Back to the Future and Top Gun after this. So 878 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.800 to me, he's not mister Strickland. He's lubic. 879 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.519 Oh that's really funny. Well, and for him, I mean 880 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.440 he always plays like a certain type, right, I mean 881 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:27.840 he's very memorable in BacT. 882 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:29.119 To this place James Tolkien type. 883 00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:31.960 Yeah, but he probably has about a minute of screen time, right, 884 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:34.880 he just makes a big impact. But in this, as 885 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.760 far as I have seen, this is his media's role. 886 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:39.199 He gets the most to do. Yeah. 887 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.000 Yeah, it's kind of fun watching him do his thing 888 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:46.119 and actually play a character, see, not like a type. 889 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.840 What strikes me is they should have done like they 890 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.679 should have done like a like a Chief Brody thing 891 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.679 where he's like afraid of aliens or something, and then 892 00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:01.000 now he's going to live with them exactly right, like 893 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.679 like that's yeah. They kind of allude to it a 894 00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:06.079 little bit where it's he's talking to these other cops 895 00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.400 and they're like, oh, not agandalubic or something. Maybe he's 896 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.159 like he's got this thing about aliens and you know, yeah. 897 00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.639 Yeah, sort of like the Randy Quaid character in Independence day, 898 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.599 like exactly, you had an experience that he can't explain 899 00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:19.199 and people are tired of hearing about it. 900 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.960 But because his ending in the movie makes like not 901 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.960 even a little bit of sense he's been there. I mean, 902 00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:27.960 like I don't we'll feel like there's a well, we'll 903 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:28.599 get there, we'll get it. 904 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.079 But it makes me laugh, Like if you're writing this 905 00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:39.119 movie's wavelength, you know, it's really funny. See this is 906 00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:41.760 like there's not like a ton on the page necessarily, 907 00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.519 but this moment between Skeletor and Evil Lynn and just 908 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.480 in her eyes, like how she really admires him and 909 00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.840 but he treats her so badly, And yeah, her little 910 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.920 arc sort of silent, but her arc with him sort 911 00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:57.960 of turning on him a bit. 912 00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.679 Dude, she does even weight to turn on him. That's 913 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:03.039 that's also really funny. 914 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:04.840 But look at the way she's looking at him and 915 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:08.960 then she kind of like this, they're just bringing so much. 916 00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:11.920 You know, I agree with that well. And Meg Foster 917 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.159 is interesting because like she talked about how the armor 918 00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.760 thing that they gave her was so uncomfortable that it 919 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.480 sort of arched her back in a specific way. And 920 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.239 yet like that really does add to, so there's like 921 00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:29.119 a regalness to her gait totally. You know. Yeah, So 922 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:33.119 here I'm wondering why they killed off like the cooler 923 00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:36.639 looking a mercenary guy. 924 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, sort of he doesn't look like him necessarily, 925 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.239 but sort of like a general grievous type of Yeah, 926 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.880 expect to like part robot, part organic, kind of. 927 00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.920 Like a like a lizard guy. Yeah, Like, what's that 928 00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:50.760 guy's deal? Then? 929 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:52.719 Yeah, I don't know why. 930 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:55.559 Just because I remember watching this in the theater and 931 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.760 definitely going, oh yeah. One of my clearest memories of 932 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.840 seeing this in the theater I was I was seven 933 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:05.840 going on eight, so my brother would have been, you know, 934 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.480 twelve gone on thirteen, and we were in Edmonton and 935 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:12.480 my uncle dropped us off at the movie theater and 936 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.840 just left, which I think about to this day. I'm like, 937 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.400 I would never in a million years do that. 938 00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.079 That's how it used to be, though, I mean, that's 939 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.880 how it was right when we'd be like seven or something, 940 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.559 you drop us off at the theater to go watch 941 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:26.960 The Lamb Before Time or something exactly. 942 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:28.519 And I would like, it's just so weird. I'm like, 943 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.920 are we more paranoid now? Or were we not paranoid 944 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:32.400 enough then. 945 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:32.920 I don't know. 946 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.840 I don't know, but I remember a kid sitting in 947 00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:37.599 the row in front of me, and he must have 948 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:41.320 been five ish, probably he was younger for sure, And 949 00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:43.239 at one point in the movie he goes, he man 950 00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:47.440 is the bestest man, and I remember being like, oh, 951 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.519 this young pup. I love his youthful enthusiasm, you know, 952 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:58.280 because I'm like seven, right right? That is lit. 953 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.679 It's amazing you remember that to this day. 954 00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:02.719 I was. I was just talking about that with Amana. 955 00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:05.440 I was like, what a weird thing to have such 956 00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:08.039 a specific recollection, But I remember that very he man 957 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:08.960 is the bestest man. 958 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.360 But yeah, the evil in moment. I like where she 959 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:16.840 and then he just kind of shoves her and like 960 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.360 you're going too, and she's like, well, I wasn't suggested 961 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:21.840 that he's spoken. Yeah. 962 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.320 I like that. 963 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:24.280 I like that dynamic between them. It's interesting. 964 00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:29.239 I certainly love Langella's skeletor of voice. I'm glad they 965 00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:32.519 didn't try to do Alan Oppenheimer's you know, high pitched thing. 966 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.079 Oh sure, relationship. I don't think that would have worked. 967 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:39.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 968 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.880 It is interesting as well that they didn't incorporate the 969 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.960 Prince Adam thing, Like you'd think that that would have 970 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.920 been a good way to, like when he's on Earth, 971 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.440 have him blend in or something, you know, mm hmmmm hmm. 972 00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:56.320 I mean, just there's so much going on in this 973 00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:59.679 movie and even having to explain there's this other world 974 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.360 but they can come to Earth because of a key, 975 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.159 and there's this castle that the these two people are battling, like, 976 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:09.159 it's just maybe too many things going on. Yeah, to 977 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.800 introduce the fact that he has a secret identity. 978 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:11.599 And. 979 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:16.519 Yeah, it's a pretty terrible secret identity when you really 980 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:20.239 think about it, because it's just he takes his shirt 981 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.519 off and suddenly nobody knows what happened to Adam. Right. 982 00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:26.280 Yeah, I rewatched the pilot of the cartoon show because 983 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.679 I hadn't seen it since I was a kid, and 984 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:30.599 just in preparation for this, and it was fun to 985 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:31.239 go back. 986 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.760 And like, what was what was the episode? 987 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:34.760 Uh? 988 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.679 I mean Skeltor wants to take over? 989 00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:39.840 You know what I mean? 990 00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:42.239 Like it's like I don't even remember, but it's a 991 00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.000 lot of you know, the parents, like, oh, there goes 992 00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.400 Prince Adam running away from danger again. Yeah, and then 993 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:50.440 he becomes he Man, and you know it's it's it's. 994 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.440 Janky. Yeah, but I. 995 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.079 Totally see why I liked it. It's fun, you know, 996 00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:01.000 it's the colors are fun, the characters are fun, orco 997 00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:01.599 is fun. 998 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:03.360 Like, I totally get why I loved. 999 00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:03.679 It as a kid. 1000 00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:08.760 Well, and I mean it was a phenomenon, right, Yeah, 1001 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.159 I mean that that's the thing, this idea of a 1002 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:17.679 Monday through Friday series that was based on a toy 1003 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.960 that had not happened until Masters the Universe. Yeah, and 1004 00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.320 you know that, like it's so funny because we look 1005 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.599 back at the eighties and at least for me, I know, 1006 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:33.400 you know, between he Man and Transformers and g I Joe, 1007 00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:37.599 Like that's my childhood. And now as an adult, I'm like, god, damn, 1008 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:43.039 that's cynical these products. Yeah yeah, it's like just just 1009 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.960 toy commercial after toy commercials. But as a kid, I'm like, 1010 00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.440 it meant so much to me. So I have this 1011 00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:51.519 this I have like such a bipolar relationship with this stuff. 1012 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.320 I understand what you're saying, and you're not entirely wrong, probably, 1013 00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:59.400 but it did engage with your imagination, Yeah, you know 1014 00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.400 what I mean, Like it did involve you, which is 1015 00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:03.480 kind of a special thing. 1016 00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.360 Well, that's the funny thing because these shows all ended 1017 00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.039 this was He Man and g I Joe, right, they 1018 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.079 would end with the lesson you know, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1019 00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:16.719 and you know with he Man, you know it would 1020 00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:20.280 be like in today's episode, skeletor lied about what he 1021 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.519 was going to do. You shouldn't lie or Whatever's. 1022 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.360 That's basically what the first one is. It's like, do 1023 00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:27.719 things the right way, you don't need to lie. 1024 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.440 Yeah, dude, I love this. By the way, we just 1025 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:34.039 stay on this shot of James Tolkien going through the 1026 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:38.559 whole gamut of reactions. I'm like, did you just not 1027 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:49.639 get a cut away? That's hilarious. He's like, that's exactly it. 1028 00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.599 By the way, I was laughing when he had the chicken, 1029 00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:56.639 He's like eating this chicken. 1030 00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:58.159 I was like, all right, what what's this? Is this 1031 00:53:58.239 --> 00:53:59.039 like an acting thing? 1032 00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:00.800 Like you just want something to within his hands and 1033 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:02.280 he's like, now I'm gonna warm this up in the 1034 00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:04.000 microwave and then we can do what we need to 1035 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.320 do next. And I was like, what is happening? And 1036 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:11.519 then the fact that that's the interference for a moment 1037 00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:13.159 where the bad guys can't track the key. 1038 00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:15.800 I was like, ah, I like that. It's just funny. 1039 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:24.519 The way that it plays out is just very funny. Yeah, 1040 00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:26.719 but yeah, you know, it just occurred to me. I'd 1041 00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.840 never really seen Tolkien like have a whole role that 1042 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:32.760 he gets to play with an arc I haven't. I mean, 1043 00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:34.440 there's probably other movies I haven't seen, but. 1044 00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:39.519 Yeah, he he I mean, you know, in Back to 1045 00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:43.440 the Future, basically what he's in like one scene really, I. 1046 00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:46.119 Mean yeah, yeah, the beginning right where he gives them 1047 00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:46.679 the tardy. 1048 00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:49.239 And then we see and then and then later in 1049 00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:50.960 when Marty is in the past. 1050 00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.719 Yeah yeah, oh yeah in the hallway with the dad 1051 00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.039 and then oh well breaking up the fight and then 1052 00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:58.000 putting his hands over his ears, and I'd be total, 1053 00:54:58.400 --> 00:54:59.960 that's probably about a minute. 1054 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:05.519 Yeah, yeah, but that's I mean, he he played a 1055 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.559 type and he did a he did a good job 1056 00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:09.199 embodying that. 1057 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:14.800 Yeah, And I guess that's what's kind of funny about 1058 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:18.519 it is he's just always hard ass, you know, with 1059 00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:20.800 the capital H so here it's kind of funny seeing 1060 00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:22.719 him act like a hard ass. But like you said, 1061 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:25.639 have these police officers not believe him about something. I'm like, oh, 1062 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.960 that's I've not seen him have to like defend himself before, right, 1063 00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:34.679 you know. But yeah, seeing these kinds of things bust 1064 00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:38.239 down a house in the suburbs. 1065 00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:41.679 Is like sick. But when when Kevin sees the beast Man, 1066 00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.480 his first reaction is get out of here, get out 1067 00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:48.239 of here, yeah, which strikes me out a little bit, right, 1068 00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:52.519 Like I'd be like, what the hell, what the hell? 1069 00:55:53.159 --> 00:56:00.719 That would be the thing, right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's hilarious. 1070 00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.760 I don't know what to say about that. That's you're right, 1071 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:05.320 You're right. 1072 00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:07.719 He's like, get out of here, get out of here. 1073 00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.800 I'm like, that's odd. How about that? 1074 00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.559 It'd be funny if he threw the chicken at him. 1075 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:16.880 He's like, ah, it's been heated up. 1076 00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:21.119 Yeah, that's why you put it in the microwave. Well, 1077 00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:25.119 because earlier in the movie, Julie throws the ammonia at him. Yeah, 1078 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:27.679 He's like, ah, it's just he's just like he's just 1079 00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:34.960 susceptible to earth, you know. Products. Yeah, so he should 1080 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:38.320 say the Anthony Delongus, who plays Blade, he's also the 1081 00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.119 fight choreographer for this movie. 1082 00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:42.960 Yeah, and he does the sword play for skeletor right 1083 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:44.280 at the end, Yeah, at the end. 1084 00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:44.519 Right. 1085 00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:46.679 But he's also got a great look as Blade. I 1086 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:48.840 think he's a cool character. Yeah, totally. And he can 1087 00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:54.920 act mm hmm, yeah, hmmm. Is this something that might 1088 00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:56.639 come into play later? 1089 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:03.440 This looks pretty good too, by the way, this hologram, Yeah, 1090 00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:04.880 I feel like she even. 1091 00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:08.000 Yeah good, no, no, no, I finished your thought. 1092 00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:09.800 Yeah, no, no, no, no, actually good. 1093 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.039 Well, I'm just looking at the state of this house 1094 00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.960 and I'm like, this is Julia's house, and isn't she 1095 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:16.199 leaving like tomorrow? 1096 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:18.880 Don't be You're right, she's not done packing. 1097 00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:20.119 She hasn't done anything. 1098 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:24.320 Yeah, yeah, I'm maybe they'll be movers. 1099 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:28.559 I suppose. But you'd think she'd be better equipped after 1100 00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.639 her parents died suddenly in a plane crash to get 1101 00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:35.480 on with her life, right, one would think. But it 1102 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:39.679 was the eighties, you know, I think I have to 1103 00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.760 give it up to that as well, that that's a 1104 00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:47.559 fairly dark plot element. Yeah, And you know movies in 1105 00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:50.079 the eighties that were ostensibly aimed at kids, they would 1106 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.679 do that. They would just have like parental death, Yeah, 1107 00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:55.599 just like layered in and it was fine. 1108 00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:57.880 Well, and this character believes it's her fault. 1109 00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:00.960 That's true. Yeah, that's extra dark. 1110 00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:06.199 Yeah. Yeah, this stuff is cool, like that crazy Star 1111 00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:07.719 Wars looking ship on a front lawn. 1112 00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:13.119 But there is literally nobody in this town. Yeah, like 1113 00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:16.480 like I mean, there's there's like there's our two people, 1114 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:19.320 there's Charlie and Lubick. Yeah. 1115 00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:26.239 Yeah, very odd. Yeah. By the way, uh, I think 1116 00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:28.480 you mentioned earlier that the poster for this was done 1117 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.559 by Drew Strews and Drew Strews and gorgeous. It's a 1118 00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:34.400 hell of a poster, man, it looks dazzling poster. Yeah, 1119 00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.280 well that makes the movie look like fifty million bucks. 1120 00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.360 I mean I remember seeing that in theaters, you know. Yep, 1121 00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:46.519 I remember when this movie was coming out actually, because 1122 00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:49.880 there used to be a magazine called called he Man 1123 00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:51.719 in the Master's Universe Magazine. It was just like a 1124 00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:54.480 bimonthly thing for kids about about, you know, he Man, 1125 00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.519 the toys and stuff. And there was an issue with 1126 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.920 the with the other theatrical poster for this, with with 1127 00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:04.679 Dolph Lungern as he Man, and I remember seeing that 1128 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.320 at a jewel or whatever and and just being like, oh, 1129 00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:09.880 it's just a guy dressed like he man, like, I 1130 00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:13.239 didn't realize there was a movie. Oh okay. And my 1131 00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.239 brother who was again he was the arbiter of what 1132 00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.639 is and isn't true. He had the wisdom of five 1133 00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:22.880 years ahead of me. Yeah, right, right right. He's like, no, man, 1134 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:24.440 that's a movie. There's a movie come out. I'm like, 1135 00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:26.840 get out of here. I was like, you know, your 1136 00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:31.599 buzz aldrink, get out of here. I was like that, 1137 00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:35.559 that's a Punky Brewster reference kids. And then you know, 1138 00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:37.719 I saw the TV spots and stuff, and so for 1139 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:41.199 me again, it was just something like wow, I never 1140 00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:43.039 thought there would be a he Man movie kind of thing, 1141 00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.360 you know. Yeah, So I was just I was just 1142 00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:49.679 tickled by its mere existence. And and you know, you 1143 00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:51.800 see that drew S Drews and poster and you're like, man, 1144 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.440 they're they're doing it for real, you know, mm hmmm. 1145 00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:58.119 Same artists who was making the Star Wars posters exactly. 1146 00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:01.119 Right, and the Indiana Jones one and two posters up 1147 01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:04.280 to this point. Up to this point. But in addition 1148 01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:08.320 to that, you have this Bill Kantis score, and Bill 1149 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:14.840 Kanty is clearly doing like a very transparent Superman slash 1150 01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:21.360 Star Wars pastiche with his music. But it's freaking great, dude, 1151 01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:25.440 it works totally. He I mean it's it's an impressively 1152 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:27.840 robust score for a movie like this. 1153 01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:32.159 I completely agree. Yeah, you know, you know he did 1154 01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:38.639 the Rocky scorer karate Kid. By the way, I just 1155 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:41.400 texted you something. That's what I remember from when this 1156 01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:43.920 movie came out. There used to be a Muppet magazine 1157 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:46.960 and they would have a can you see it? 1158 01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.920 Yes? I can't, oh I. 1159 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:53.719 They would have a poster in each magazine, and for 1160 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:55.880 when this movie came out, they had a poster of 1161 01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:57.880 Kermit dressed up as he Man. 1162 01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:00.519 Dressed up as Dolph on Gren's he Man. Yeah, and 1163 01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:02.360 I remember as a kill it included. 1164 01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:06.119 I thought that was hysterical and I've never forgotten it, 1165 01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:12.960 and so it's too funny. Yeah, but yeah, somehow I 1166 01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:13.800 missed it. I'm not sure. 1167 01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:14.440 You know, it's funny. 1168 01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:18.239 You got the gwildor thing where he's real quick. 1169 01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:20.239 By the way, so right here where Lubik's like the 1170 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.000 mountain came to my hammet. I had never heard that 1171 01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:23.639 phrase before. 1172 01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:25.800 I didn't even notice it. 1173 01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:28.039 Yeah, these guys show up and he said, what looks 1174 01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:29.840 like the mountain came to mahammet right. 1175 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:30.519 No, that's funny. 1176 01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:33.400 I've never heard that before, and have you heard it 1177 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.519 since or is that just like I've heard it enough 1178 01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:38.039 to know it's a thing. But I feel like if 1179 01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:39.920 if I feel like if I were to say that, 1180 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:41.480 people would be like, what do you I don't know 1181 01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:43.400 what that means? You're right right, right right? 1182 01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:46.840 You know that's like when I you know, there's a 1183 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:49.039 bear poop in the woods or whatever that expression is. 1184 01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:50.599 Like I heard it once in a movie and I 1185 01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:52.559 thought it was just silly for the movie, and then 1186 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:55.480 I learned that was an actual expression. I was like, Okay, 1187 01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:02.760 we all knew this. We got the guildor you know, 1188 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:04.800 I think this is kind of like the post et thing, 1189 01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.599 like it's funny we put these little creatures in like drag. 1190 01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:11.039 Yeah, and then he shows up and he goes, oh, quilldoor, O. 1191 01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:13.480 Guilled door, and it's funny, like why did he do that? 1192 01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:15.719 Like if there's everything's urgent? Was he just in a 1193 01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:18.920 closet like oh, this is fun put like a boa 1194 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:21.239 around his neck and yeah. 1195 01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:22.880 As was the style at the time. 1196 01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:31.000 Yeah, I mean it adds some fun comedy, but. 1197 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:34.000 See again, The absolute lack of any earth life on 1198 01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.199 this street is like hugely distracting to me now as 1199 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:37.880 an adult. 1200 01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:40.079 It would be nice if they could have hired just 1201 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:43.400 like ten people to just sort of be on the 1202 01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:44.760 sidewalks and then flee. 1203 01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:47.039 Just give it some life for God's sake. 1204 01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:49.280 You know, it might even make more impact that way 1205 01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:51.320 if you saw that this was bustling. But they have 1206 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.400 now cleared right right the street. 1207 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:59.519 You know, I definitely remember at that moment where he 1208 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:01.400 man says, how are you feeling in Man at Arms says, 1209 01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:05.320 I'm feeling hungry. I remember laughing history I was slapping 1210 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:11.679 my knee that Man at Arms. I didn't know hunger 1211 01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:15.960 was his thing, but this movie has clarified that for me. 1212 01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:22.519 That is hilarious. I do. I do like John Ciphers 1213 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.599 as Man at Arms in this He's got to look 1214 01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:25.880 you know, he's got a. 1215 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.320 Real dad vibe, right, you know, Yeah, maybe it's because 1216 01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:31.159 it's kind of what my dad looked like in the eighties, 1217 01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:37.840 like the mustache, and yeah, we at least you get 1218 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:41.039 this guy, right, the shop owner. Yeah, someone who's not 1219 01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:43.480 involved with the adventure but gets to react to how 1220 01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:44.119 crazy it is. 1221 01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:49.800 We just need him to say, well, that just happened. Yeah, 1222 01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:51.639 that's all that's missing. Really. 1223 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:55.920 It's funny you talking about that hungry line making you 1224 01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.400 laugh as a kid because it's unexpected. It's like irreverent, 1225 01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:01.559 not something you would expect a character in a movie 1226 01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:03.559 like this to say. And it's funny how that's become 1227 01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:07.360 the humor now. Is that's so true saying the irreverent thing, 1228 01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:09.400 like almost to the point where I can sense it 1229 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.000 coming and I'm sort of like, nah, I'm really enjoying 1230 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:13.119 this moment. Don't don't break. 1231 01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:14.280 Yeah, let's just play it straight. 1232 01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:16.880 Yeah, yeah, Yeah, let's enjoy this being an emotional moment. 1233 01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.440 We don't have to like subvert it or undercut it. 1234 01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:21.599 That's kind of the trick, right, Like how do you 1235 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:27.599 how do you balance that, like little little incorporating humor 1236 01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:29.880 in a way that doesn't undercut drama, you know, And 1237 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:31.480 I feel like a lot of films these days have 1238 01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:33.960 have an issue with that, which is, you know, with 1239 01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:38.760 this film broadly, I appreciate that it stays consistent within 1240 01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:39.360 its tone. 1241 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.360 Yeah, it totally does. Man. I think I think that helps. 1242 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.360 Yeah. 1243 01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.199 I mean the scene coming up in a little bit 1244 01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:53.280 where where Julie. You know, she she hands the cosmic 1245 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:55.199 key over to evil in right, and it's easy to 1246 01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:57.119 watch them be like, you, stupid idiot, why would you 1247 01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:58.519 think that's your dead mom? Right? 1248 01:04:59.000 --> 01:04:59.400 Yeah? 1249 01:04:59.239 --> 01:04:59.400 Yeah? 1250 01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:01.440 And I always look at that and I'm like, well, 1251 01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:03.400 you have to look at it as like how a 1252 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:09.599 kid would would perceive this totally totally right, Like, you know, 1253 01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:13.800 it doesn't have to make sense purely, but like on 1254 01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:15.920 an emotional level, you can sort of understand where the 1255 01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:16.800 character's coming from. 1256 01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:21.440 And maybe the execution's a little a little hokey hoky 1257 01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.880 or something, but I on the page or the concept 1258 01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:29.400 I love. Actually that's a really sad thing, right for 1259 01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.400 her desperately hoping that she is seeing her mother again, 1260 01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:34.519 but she's really being tricked by the bad guy. 1261 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:40.960 Right. Oh, so so we haven't mentioned at all Chelsea Field. 1262 01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:44.079 It plays Tila. Yes, I love her in this movie. 1263 01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.079 She's great. I mean, you know, I know she's she's 1264 01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:47.840 done a whole bunch of stuff, but I kind of 1265 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:49.639 wish she had done more. I think she's great. 1266 01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:50.559 Yeah. 1267 01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:52.400 I looked her up afterwards because I didn't really know 1268 01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.280 who she was, and I agree, she's got like a 1269 01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:57.840 fun energy and like they have Like that's what I 1270 01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:00.440 do like, even if it feels a little corny times, 1271 01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:02.519 is that she and he man and Man at Arms 1272 01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:06.360 have a rapport, right, you know, yeah, like they do 1273 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:07.519 this stuff some history. 1274 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.400 Yeah, exactly. Well, she's got this bit right here where 1275 01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:13.000 she just kind of looks just past camera and goes 1276 01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:18.840 woman at arms, which is like so odd to me, 1277 01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:22.440 Like like, I'm glad she gets that moment, but I'm like, 1278 01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:25.320 does that for people like what you know, because I 1279 01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.679 don't you know what I mean, Like, we don't hit 1280 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.000 that her dad is Man at arms. They don't really underscore. 1281 01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.880 That, yeah, or like she's living in her dad's shadow 1282 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.920 or something, right, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Although it 1283 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:38.199 was funny because I didn't remember that and it kind 1284 01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:39.840 of made me laugh. But you know me, I'm a 1285 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:41.440 sucker for people breaking the fourth wall. 1286 01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:44.159 I love it. 1287 01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:46.880 I don't know, it just always gets me and it 1288 01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:49.440 rarely makes me think you shouldn't have done that. I'm 1289 01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:51.400 almost always like, oh, I love that you did that. 1290 01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:55.159 Like right recently was send Help with Rachel McAdams when 1291 01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:57.119 she's in the camera. I was like, I love it. 1292 01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:00.559 Doesn't it doesn't ruin the movie. It makes it better. Yeah, 1293 01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:01.320 I don't know. 1294 01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.679 Oh, and Chelsea field Worth mentioning she is missus Scott Bacula. 1295 01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:09.559 Yeah yeah, so good for him. Yeah, you know, it's funny. 1296 01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:11.719 You mentioned that we were texting about it yesterday and 1297 01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.480 I googled one of them I don't know, and it 1298 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:17.840 brought up like a video of the two of them 1299 01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:20.559 recently talking about a play that they're going to be 1300 01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:23.880 in together. Oh nice, and they just look older and 1301 01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:27.440 happy and sweet, and it just really warmed my heart 1302 01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:30.239 seeing them together all these years later and just looking 1303 01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.000 like a happy That's funny. 1304 01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:35.039 I saw I saw something similar. It was a video 1305 01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:39.599 of Mark Harmon and Pam Dauber. Who oh okay, I 1306 01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:42.199 mean they've been married since forever, right, yeah, and yeah 1307 01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:45.159 they're just like this older couple now, you know. Yeah, 1308 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:47.719 I mean like Mark Harmon at this point is far 1309 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.480 removed from like the early days of ncis even, right, 1310 01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:55.119 I Mean, he's like an old guy now, and so 1311 01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:57.480 it's just it's it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's been 1312 01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:58.519 it's been a while, you know. 1313 01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:00.679 Yeah, it's nice. 1314 01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:03.079 See. I mean this moment again, look at it from 1315 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:05.320 a kid's perspective, right, what's the worst thing you can 1316 01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.199 think of when you're a little kid, right, losing your 1317 01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:12.079 parents exactly, right, And so to have the possibility of 1318 01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:13.880 them being back, I mean it is it's like a nightmare, 1319 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.560 you know. So you're not like, no, that's evil, Lynn, 1320 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.600 you know, I mean you are like that probably, but 1321 01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:23.079 but you imagine being seven, right, well you can exactly. 1322 01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:25.680 But I like the actress too. By the way, she's 1323 01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.720 doing a great job. She feels very motherly, but also 1324 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:32.960 the whole you know, or she's like betraying what's really underneath, 1325 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.239 like go get that key to me, you know, it's 1326 01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:36.359 it's easy. 1327 01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:38.439 Well her explanation too, it's like, I'm sorry, we couldn't 1328 01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:42.520 tell you we were doing like secret government stuff. You 1329 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:42.960 went with. 1330 01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:49.560 That's actually though I was a kid, I'd be like, 1331 01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:52.159 well that makes sense that tracks. 1332 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:56.000 My parents are spies, of course. I mean, that's what 1333 01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:59.520 they did with Peter Parker in the in the Amazing 1334 01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:01.239 Spider Man movies, right, yeah. 1335 01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:04.199 Actually I was just thinking that, so you know what 1336 01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:05.800 it is. I think there's a little bit in the 1337 01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:09.479 execution here, probably because they didn't have time for multiple 1338 01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:11.680 takes or angles or whatever. But I think if you 1339 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:15.720 showed Courtney Cox's character go in that room and like, 1340 01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.119 I the key and really think about it and moll 1341 01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:21.439 over it and wrestle with it for a moment. It said, 1342 01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:23.239 she just kind of like in one big wide shot, 1343 01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:24.800 she just kind of flipped it up, like goes in 1344 01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:26.399 and takes it and walks out, and it feels a 1345 01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:27.560 little like, what are you doing? 1346 01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:31.479 Well? The other thing is I feel like, once she 1347 01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:37.239 realizes that's not her mom, instead of just standing there, 1348 01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:39.359 she should have there should have been something preventing her 1349 01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:43.199 from following evil. Then yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure, you know, 1350 01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:44.479 like a force field or something. 1351 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:45.279 Mm hmm. 1352 01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:50.520 Yeah. So so he Man is rocking a pistol or 1353 01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:53.640 two in this movie, which you know was not the case. 1354 01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:54.880 I couldn't remember. 1355 01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.279 Yeah, that's another thing that I sort of attributed to 1356 01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:58.039 the Star Wars E. 1357 01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:01.199 Yeah, I mean the the og toy he came with 1358 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:04.319 with the with half the power sword, right and then 1359 01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:07.960 a shield. See, the original original mythology was he Man 1360 01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:10.680 had one half of the power sword, Skeletor had the 1361 01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:12.920 other half, and if you put the two swords together, 1362 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:17.520 you can open Castle Gray Sculpe. They left that way behind. Mm. 1363 01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:22.800 But in this movie, it's like he uses the guns 1364 01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:26.079 to you know, attack people and the sword as a shield. 1365 01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:30.199 M Yeah, which feels like maybe not the most practical 1366 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:33.439 use of of what you got. I guess. Swords are tricky. 1367 01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:35.199 It makes me think of the Ninja turtles, right, Like 1368 01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:38.640 you can't show your hero slicing and dicing people, that's right, 1369 01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:39.359 you know. 1370 01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:42.000 So they have to be used as Yeah, that was 1371 01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:46.239 the issue, is that, Like I said, initially, Gary Goddard 1372 01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:49.399 is told, hey, no, you know, you can't can't kill 1373 01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:52.880 or hurt anybody. And then while they're making the movie, 1374 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:56.039 the sales chart just keeps dropping and dropping in real 1375 01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:58.880 time for he Man toys. Yeah. So then they come 1376 01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:00.600 back they're like, listen, if you want him to just 1377 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:03.199 like murder everybody, that's totally fine with those like whatever 1378 01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:03.760 you gotta do. 1379 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:08.199 Oh, because it doesn't matter anymore. What else they want do? 1380 01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:10.520 What you gotta do? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see. 1381 01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:13.720 If you want to have him like eating people's entrails, whatever, 1382 01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:17.399 it takes mine and he's like, well we're done now, 1383 01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:20.600 so thanks anyway, you jackasses the right, right. 1384 01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.439 Yeah. I was sad that the sword didn't look like 1385 01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.640 the sword I knew from the cartoon. It's so distinctive, right, 1386 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:31.640 Like it just looks like a sword you could get 1387 01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:33.680 at like a shop in Las Vegas. 1388 01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.039 You know, like that's it. You know they did the 1389 01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:39.319 you know, a couple of years after the original toy 1390 01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:41.319 line ended, they did. They brought it back, or they 1391 01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:43.359 attempted to, but it was just called he Man. Do 1392 01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:45.079 you remember this? I do. 1393 01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:47.119 I remember what they looked like, but I didn't watch it. 1394 01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:50.640 Yeah. The cartoon show was called The New Adventures of 1395 01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:52.399 he Man, and that was not by filmation. It was 1396 01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:54.760 by a French company. And he Man's sort I mean 1397 01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:56.479 it's supposed to be the same power sort it looks 1398 01:11:56.520 --> 01:12:00.680 totally different. Yeah, and that was like a sci fi show. 1399 01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:04.600 Yeah right right. He Man's wearing pants in that one, 1400 01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:09.079 which is which is goddamn heresy. I'll look at it. 1401 01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:12.319 The frame is flipped. You see that. How funny the 1402 01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:13.600 shops were backwards? 1403 01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:15.880 Wow, I did not catch that. 1404 01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:20.760 You know, this hoverboard stuff looks a little janky, but 1405 01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:24.960 like it's cool. It's a concept. I wish they could 1406 01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:26.720 have figured out how to nail it a little better, 1407 01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:28.720 but like I like it. I think it's a good 1408 01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:29.640 action sequence. 1409 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.119 I I think there's something about knowing that it's still 1410 01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:37.159 an actual thing on top of an actual thing that 1411 01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:40.000 sort of, at least for me, my brain sort of 1412 01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:45.399 slots into just just going with it, where like Janky CG. 1413 01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:49.920 I'm not able to do that as easily. Yeah, No, 1414 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:50.960 I agree. I agree. 1415 01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:54.079 The I don't know, the tangibility of it goes a 1416 01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:54.960 long way for sure. 1417 01:12:57.960 --> 01:12:58.199 Yeah. 1418 01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:00.199 I mean I'm sort of repeating myself now, but just 1419 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:04.079 seeing like a camera boom up from like a Hallmark 1420 01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:09.239 store to Skeletor. Yeah, like riding this like big space 1421 01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:14.800 vehicle is just like delights every part of my brain. 1422 01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:20.279 Yeah, it's good. I love this here where I mean, 1423 01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:23.680 he's so mean to evil Lynn, Yeah, throughout the movie, 1424 01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:26.279 and so it's it's the least surprising thing in the 1425 01:13:26.319 --> 01:13:28.159 movie when she's just like, all right, we're out of here, 1426 01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:31.359 when she just like leaves him to be defeated. 1427 01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:34.720 You know, they talk about like a lot of guys 1428 01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:37.199 have these moments like ten fifteen years later where they 1429 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:39.399 realize a woman had been flirting with them but they 1430 01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:41.479 didn't know it in the moment. Do you think Skeletor 1431 01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:42.920 like ten years later, like in the middle of then 1432 01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:47.000 I was like, wait a minute, I think people in 1433 01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:54.920 liked me. Oh, it goes on Facebook, seems the beacon 1434 01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:00.359 finder just really tries to wish her a happy birthday, Tarkanna. 1435 01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:04.000 Her status as it's complicated, and he's like there's a chance, 1436 01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:07.720 or it's like back in the my space days, he 1437 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:11.359 pokes are just like hoping. No, poking was a Facebook thing? 1438 01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:12.800 Oh was that Facebook? 1439 01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:13.720 That was Facebook? 1440 01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.560 Okay, you never got poked on Facebook? I did, well. 1441 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:18.960 I remember that happening and even think he was weird 1442 01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:19.640 in the moment. 1443 01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:20.720 But like, you don't know what you're supposed to do 1444 01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:20.960 about it. 1445 01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:25.319 Yeah, yeah, it's poking. You're just like, okay, he poked back, 1446 01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:28.119 you know, and then they poke you and you poke back. 1447 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.399 Now. Now, these these hoverboard things, I think they're cool looking. Yeah, agree, 1448 01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:37.760 But I questioned the practicality, Like I don't know what 1449 01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:41.039 kind of maneuverability you're able to really have on them, right, 1450 01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:43.239 because it's like it's like a manhole cover that you're 1451 01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:43.800 standing up. 1452 01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:46.319 Yeah yeah, I feel like you can fall off pretty easy, right, 1453 01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.640 And there's no like footholds, I don't think. 1454 01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:54.359 Yeah, no, it's just like a it's like a there's nothing. 1455 01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:57.920 I mean, it doesn't seem practical, is what I'm saying. 1456 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.279 Yeah, even the hoverboards and Back to the Future have 1457 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:04.000 like little slip grip for your yeah, well and then 1458 01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:06.239 something you can slip your foot through to be fixed 1459 01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:06.560 to it. 1460 01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.159 So this shot right here, I kind of love how 1461 01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:12.760 how how low fi it is, right the shot where 1462 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:13.279 we right. 1463 01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:15.279 Here, Yeah yeah, yeah, he's like probably in the back 1464 01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:16.439 of a pickup truck. 1465 01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.239 Yeah yeah, exactly, you know, and I'm like, no, he's not, 1466 01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:20.560 He's on a hoverboard. 1467 01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:30.159 Yeah yeah, No, it's great, right, yeah, I mean, this 1468 01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:32.359 is a cool sequence. 1469 01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:37.119 And I's got that key. Look at that. 1470 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:44.439 Well, I would kind of like to watch it behind 1471 01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:46.399 the scenes and see what that is. I mean, are 1472 01:15:46.399 --> 01:15:49.880 those just two models, like little miniature sort of things 1473 01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:52.079 that they just sort of are dancing around like. 1474 01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:54.880 For the wider shots, Yeah, yeah, I think so. Because 1475 01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:55.760 they look a little stiff. 1476 01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:57.199 I think it would go a long way if they 1477 01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:59.880 could have made it look a little bit less like 1478 01:15:59.880 --> 01:16:02.199 a thing on a rod that they're passing across the 1479 01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:05.119 screen right right, right, if there's a little bit more 1480 01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:08.720 like the character was reacting and a little bit more 1481 01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:11.399 bounce to it or something. But yeah, I mean, no complaint. 1482 01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:15.079 I'm just thinking I think they did a good job 1483 01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:16.920 with what they had. By the way, that reminds me. 1484 01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:18.760 Did you see that they're putting out a special four 1485 01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:21.880 K of this and it's going to have like not 1486 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:23.319 only a bunch of features, but it's going to have 1487 01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:24.439 a preview cut. 1488 01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.840 I may need to order that copy. 1489 01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.079 I would really like to watch that. I would like 1490 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:35.600 to see what was cut from this. And that's like 1491 01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:38.000 becoming a thing now, right, all these preview cuts are 1492 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.720 getting unearthed. Did you hear about We didn't talk about it, 1493 01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:42.920 but there was a two and a half hour Gremlins 1494 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:44.840 cut that was screened recently. 1495 01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:50.159 Yeah, that's right, Yeah, which sounds probably about about forty 1496 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:52.720 five minutes too long, probably probably. 1497 01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.800 I mean, I wonder if it actually feels like an 1498 01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:58.760 overly long movie or just like a ton of stuff 1499 01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:01.399 they shot and just kind of tape together. And right, 1500 01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:06.840 I don't know, the Batman Forever, Right, isn't that one 1501 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:08.439 also marker cut? 1502 01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:10.720 Yeah? That one I'm desperate to see. 1503 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:12.399 Yeah, yeah, it's kind of cool. 1504 01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:15.680 Now, this is hilarious to me that Skeletor just sneaks 1505 01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:20.119 up on them in this freaking goddamn The Titanic. 1506 01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:23.479 That's like that thing where like a helicopter always appears 1507 01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:24.520 out of nowhere in a movie. 1508 01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:25.720 It's like, how do you not hear that? 1509 01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:27.840 Yeah, like there standing at a cliff and then suddenly 1510 01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:34.000 like it appears, but you would hear like while, yeah, 1511 01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:37.520 it's no way it sneaks up, you know what movies. 1512 01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:45.279 So we were talking about Skeletor earlier. I was reading 1513 01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:48.800 about how Franklin Angela initially was like really into the 1514 01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:52.439 idea of dressing like the Skeletor from the Toy Slash cartoon, 1515 01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:55.840 you know, so he'd be wearing like a you know, 1516 01:17:56.199 --> 01:18:00.560 like a revealing harness, like like he man. 1517 01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:04.840 Has maybe like bare chested with like something strapped over right. 1518 01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:06.800 And and and Gary Goddard was like, no, no, we 1519 01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:10.279 can't have a sexy Skeletor, to which I say, why 1520 01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:10.840 the hell not? 1521 01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:14.359 I why not? 1522 01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:17.600 Why not? But but I will say I first, I 1523 01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:19.640 think I think Skeletor's costume is pretty bad ass in this, 1524 01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.159 but I think it's pretty menacing. And it really is. 1525 01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:26.239 And and I was, I was, Uh. I saw an 1526 01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:28.199 interview with I think it was with Williams stopped talking 1527 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:32.640 about how he how Langella worked with them to figure 1528 01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:36.800 out the exact way the cloak should look and and 1529 01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:39.079 in such a way that he can sling it over 1530 01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:41.279 his shoulder and all this stuff. And it's very theatrical, 1531 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:44.720 very Doctor Doom. You know. I think it holds up. 1532 01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:45.920 Yeah, totally. 1533 01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:49.239 And and actually I really like the he Man costume 1534 01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:51.640 in this. I think I think the armor is a 1535 01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:55.960 very natural live action translation of you know, the toy 1536 01:18:56.039 --> 01:18:58.399 and the and the cartoon. I agree. 1537 01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:00.720 I mean, what we're seeing from the twenty twenty six 1538 01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:03.399 Masters of the Universe, which looks more like the cartoon, 1539 01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:07.960 looks very cool. But I can see, especially I don't know, 1540 01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:11.159 him wandering around Earth and everything without those things on 1541 01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:13.640 his shoulders, he might just feel more exposed, like just 1542 01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:16.760 like a guy running around in his underwear. Yeah, like 1543 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:18.520 it helps, it adds some sort of. 1544 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:26.079 I don't know. Yeah, I mean, as far as what 1545 01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:30.560 they have he Man wearing here, it's like a leather thong. Yeah, 1546 01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:36.359 So I don't know how comfortable dolphone Gren felt. 1547 01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:40.399 Yeah, there's a couple of times where it literally feels 1548 01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:42.279 like he's wandering around in a speedo and yeah, you 1549 01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:43.199 just gotta wonder how that. 1550 01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:45.960 I mean, you have a body like that. 1551 01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:48.119 I'd do it too, but like you gotta wonder, like 1552 01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:50.000 being on a set, you know, with all these people 1553 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.479 if Yeah, there were some times he felt self conscious. 1554 01:19:52.760 --> 01:19:56.079 Maybe that's why he has the cape, like just make 1555 01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:57.680 him feel slightly more covered. 1556 01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:00.159 Yeah, and even just yeah, the shoulder pads, right, it 1557 01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.600 looks more. Even that alone makes it feel more like 1558 01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:04.239 a costume than a guy that just came out of 1559 01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:04.640 the pool. 1560 01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:09.640 That's true. I mean that that itself is fascinating that 1561 01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:14.920 the the movie came with Lundgrend like he was part 1562 01:20:14.920 --> 01:20:17.439 of the deal and so they did sort of have 1563 01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:20.520 to work around him. But Mattel had been trying for 1564 01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:22.640 a couple of years to get this movie made and 1565 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:27.319 the big studios were hesitant. And then Cannon is like, hey, uh, 1566 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:29.159 if you pay for half, we'll pay for half, and 1567 01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:33.880 Mattel's like, sounds great, little realizing that this is this 1568 01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:35.720 is not the company to make that kind of a 1569 01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:40.039 bed with because they they gave their half, and then 1570 01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:42.560 when it came time for Cannon to pony up there half, 1571 01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:44.640 they're like, oh, yeah, we don't have it. By the way, 1572 01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.319 So there was nearly no ending for this movie. 1573 01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:52.920 I mean they did like shut down at one point, right, 1574 01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:54.479 that's right, yeah, yeah, and then. 1575 01:20:54.479 --> 01:20:55.239 Just had to be like. 1576 01:20:56.840 --> 01:20:59.279 They had more elaborate things in mind, but then they 1577 01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:01.079 just had Okay, this is all you got left. You 1578 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:06.199 got to finish this thing now. Yeah, be stressful. Can 1579 01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:06.840 you imagine? 1580 01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:09.319 I can't. That's why so I'm glad I'm not a 1581 01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:15.720 film director. Yeah, now I have to say it. There 1582 01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:18.319 is an inordinate amount of time in this movie where 1583 01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:22.439 Skeletor wants this scantily dressed man to kneel and be 1584 01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:25.439 his slave, and well, there you go. That's why he's 1585 01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:29.840 not paying attentioned to Evil in Sometimes the subtext is 1586 01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:32.000 very loud. 1587 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:34.159 Well do you think Evil in ten years from now 1588 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:35.600 was in bed and woke up and went. 1589 01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:44.159 Oh, now I get it. Yeah, this looks. 1590 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.359 Cool, doesn't it. The marching back into that portal, that 1591 01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:47.000 looks good. 1592 01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:52.279 That's what I'm saying, right, Like, there's enough work on 1593 01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:54.800 the on the effect sequences where where if you didn't 1594 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:56.840 know any better, you'd be like, hey, they spent some 1595 01:21:56.920 --> 01:21:59.560 money on this, and by the way, I mean twenty 1596 01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:03.439 two million in nineteen eighty seven. That's not chump change. 1597 01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:06.920 I mean Star Wars, not that long ago or ten 1598 01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:08.840 years earlier, was made for seventeen million. 1599 01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:09.399 There you go. 1600 01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:16.479 Yeah, actually, what's their excuse? Now I'm just true, So 1601 01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:19.239 here you go. Yeah, now the police are ribbing him. 1602 01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:25.239 Exactly right, like make that a runner? Yeah, yeah, because 1603 01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:27.800 it's it's clearly like he's like a big city cup. 1604 01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:31.279 He is Chief Brody and for some reason he's here 1605 01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:34.880 in the middle of nowhere. So Brody was afraid of water. 1606 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:38.600 Lubick's got his thing that he's afraid of is disgusting, 1607 01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:42.560 you know, space viruses like whatever Julie has. 1608 01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:45.560 By the way, Yeah, I was like, I assume there 1609 01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:47.640 would be, you know, some sort of gnarly sort of thing. 1610 01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:51.800 But I was like, what is that? The designers went 1611 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:53.960 nuts on that on her leg wound? 1612 01:22:54.359 --> 01:22:59.159 And yet doesn't that feel very of its era? Like wait, 1613 01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:01.079 what do you mean? It just feels like what we 1614 01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:02.920 would see in movies like I mean that we're talking 1615 01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:04.520 about Gremlins. Doesn't I feel like something you would have 1616 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:05.239 seen it in Gremlins? 1617 01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:10.680 Definitely looks yeah, grimliny. Yeah, there were a lot more, 1618 01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:17.199 I guess practical makeup effects people and getting to show 1619 01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:22.680 off and do all sorts of things. Yeah, and then 1620 01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:24.920 you get another Like it is kind of funny seeing 1621 01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:27.359 I have to imagine a lot of these popular movies 1622 01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:30.000 in this moment, we're seeping into their head. 1623 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:30.159 You know. 1624 01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:31.279 You get like ET with the. 1625 01:23:31.720 --> 01:23:34.640 Dress and the wig on and grilled or earlier. And 1626 01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:38.279 then we get this device that looks like ET's communication device, 1627 01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:41.680 you know, set up right here, and of course the 1628 01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:44.920 Star Wars of it. But as a kid, that would 1629 01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:47.159 have been really fun for me because I would be like, oh, 1630 01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:49.000 it's tapping into all the stuff I love. 1631 01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:54.720 Right, Well, that's I mean, that's the thing, right, Like 1632 01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:58.199 for a lot of these you know, it was like, well, 1633 01:23:58.279 --> 01:24:01.119 this is our shot and let's put on a show. Yeah, 1634 01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:04.039 and they're and they're pulling from all of their influences 1635 01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:05.600 and stuff. Like I said, I mean, I mean for 1636 01:24:05.640 --> 01:24:08.520 this film, like obviously ET was recent enough. I'm sure 1637 01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:11.399 that factored in. How could it not have. Yeah, but 1638 01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:14.760 you get like this Jack Kirby influence. You know, you 1639 01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:20.199 had Mobius doing the some of the costume designs, and 1640 01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:23.720 you know, and it's like I appreciate the fact that 1641 01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:27.760 that everyone leaned in and and and they made a 1642 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:30.560 movie that that is far from perfect, just to be clear. 1643 01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:35.159 But I think when we watch it nearly forty years later, 1644 01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:38.960 that earnestness, at least to me, stands out. And that's 1645 01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:43.039 I can view it through that lens and be like, well, 1646 01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:44.720 I appreciate that they're just trying to put on a. 1647 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:47.760 Show, definitely, which I have something to say about that, 1648 01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:49.239 But I want to point this out before it ends. 1649 01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:55.359 If we see another wide shot the street behind them, 1650 01:24:55.560 --> 01:24:59.840 there's just this fog consistently rolling down the street and 1651 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:02.560 a light that's placed there to illuminate the flaw fog 1652 01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:06.479 that's giving it like sort of a blue illumination kind 1653 01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:10.159 of thing. And I'm just like, someone thought to put 1654 01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:13.119 a machine down there, someone thought let's put the light there, 1655 01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:17.199 Like they really composed an image, yeah, you know, And 1656 01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:20.079 I just I don't know, looking at it, I'm like, 1657 01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:22.479 it really makes what could just be sort of a 1658 01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:25.079 static shot of these people around a fountain feel like 1659 01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:28.399 it's breathing. So I don't know, I just want it's. 1660 01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:31.359 A good observation. Yeah, It's just I don't know. 1661 01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:34.399 I don't feel like enough of that detail gets considered 1662 01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:36.520 or thought thought of these days. 1663 01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:40.560 Actually, while we're while we're talking about this specific sequence here, 1664 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:43.760 there's a moment right here where where Guildor is telling Kevin, oh, 1665 01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:46.279 help me come up with the key, and Kevin's like, look, 1666 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:48.760 I'm just a guy in a high school band. There's 1667 01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:51.960 a million of me, and Guildor says something very nice. 1668 01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:55.000 He says, only one of you, Kevin, only one of anybody? 1669 01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:57.439 What a nice I mean, like, what a nice sentiment, 1670 01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:02.039 especially for a little kid watching this absolute yeah, you know, yeah, 1671 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:03.239 I agree. 1672 01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:07.720 I love it. And it's oh see look see that 1673 01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:12.000 smoke and fall. Yeah, not just adds, it adds character 1674 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:15.000 to the scene. It makes the location feel alive. 1675 01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:19.880 Yeah, oh okay, so so real quick, we gotta oh yes, 1676 01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:23.800 So this little kid right here who he gets the 1677 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:27.760 staff from. So he's credited as pig Boy and that 1678 01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:29.960 little kid I forget the actor's name, but but he 1679 01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:34.399 won a contest that Mattel had that some kind of 1680 01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:36.239 sweepstakes where you can get a role in the he 1681 01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:39.960 Man movie. So he got that role and then you know, 1682 01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:43.640 Mattel shows up and they're like, hey, you gotta put 1683 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:44.960 this kid into the movie. And he's like, well, God, 1684 01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:50.279 damn it. So they just gave him that part. He's 1685 01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:54.760 credited that kid who is now an adult obvious that 1686 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:58.840 has talked about how his skin broke out, oh because 1687 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:01.319 of the chemical reaction to that pig boy mask that 1688 01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:03.840 they wow. So I don't know if it was a 1689 01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:06.560 great experience for him, but he made it in it's 1690 01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:07.039 pretty cool. 1691 01:27:07.079 --> 01:27:10.319 I mean, I think I would be minorly bummed that 1692 01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:11.079 you don't see. 1693 01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:12.039 My face, that's right. 1694 01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:15.720 Yeah, but it actually feels like a really natural addition. 1695 01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:19.079 Yeah. I think they did a good job of working 1696 01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:22.119 around fine here, like without it being that obvious. 1697 01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:22.720 Yeah. 1698 01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:25.399 Yeah, Skelter is snatching the staff out of his hands. 1699 01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:28.399 Now this I love this too. She says, men who 1700 01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:31.680 crave power, look back over the mistakes of their lives, 1701 01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:35.880 pile them together and call it destiny. Isn't that that 1702 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:38.600 talk about a universally applicable sentiment? 1703 01:27:39.479 --> 01:27:39.680 You know? 1704 01:27:39.760 --> 01:27:42.760 It's funny that And then Langella's lines. We were talking 1705 01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:44.359 about how he went in and came up with some 1706 01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:47.960 really almost Shakespearean sounding sorts of things for Skelter to say, 1707 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:49.920 that's some of those things where you go back and 1708 01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:52.199 watch movies made for kids and You're like, oh wow, 1709 01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:56.239 they like really thought of some profound things to say 1710 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:57.760 in here that I just kind of exactly when I 1711 01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:07.159 was a kid, you know, Yeah, good, Sorry. 1712 01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:10.119 No, no, no, I'll come back. Well no, I was gonna say. 1713 01:28:10.159 --> 01:28:12.319 I mean, there is that line that you already mentioned 1714 01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:14.600 where Skeletor is you know, tell me about the loneliness 1715 01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:17.039 of good? Is it equal to the loneliness of evil? 1716 01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:22.760 And I love that's an amazing line. And I love 1717 01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:26.479 that there's someone who's self aware enough to know that 1718 01:28:26.520 --> 01:28:27.119 they're evil. 1719 01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:30.159 I was going to bring this up. I'm like, I'm like, 1720 01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:33.039 this guy is not He's not like Magneto or something, 1721 01:28:33.079 --> 01:28:36.000 you know, yeah, like he knows. He's like, man, give 1722 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:40.000 me a cat, I will kick that some bitch. Yeah. 1723 01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:42.159 I think that's there's something kind of fun about that, 1724 01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:44.720 and we see it. 1725 01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:47.199 Here where Sorceress is like, you know, there's still a 1726 01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:49.600 chance to pull back from this madness. He's like, no, 1727 01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:51.760 I have to be scorned and hated. 1728 01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:57.760 I'm like, my man, Yeah, it made me think of 1729 01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:00.319 that line that's always made me laugh. Where sort of 1730 01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:03.119 riffing on that in the Simpsons at Camp Krusty and 1731 01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:05.720 there's that leader and he's sitting around the table and 1732 01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:10.119 they raise a gentleman to evil, gentlemen to evil like 1733 01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:14.079 that guy knows, like we are peddling evils. 1734 01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:19.079 That's hilarious, s skeleter Man. He just wants to see 1735 01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:25.359 he Man stripped down and whipped. Oh yeah, so I 1736 01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:27.359 was talking. So for the longest time, there were no 1737 01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:30.199 action figures of he Man and skelet from this movie 1738 01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:34.399 because of rights issues, and it wasn't until like twenty seventeen, 1739 01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:39.199 twenty eighteen that they finally came out with characters wearing 1740 01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:43.520 these costumes. Wow, you know, I think they had to 1741 01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:46.960 work through And they didn't even call it like Master's Universe, 1742 01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:50.039 the Motion Picture Figures. They called it the WILLIAMS. Stout Collection. 1743 01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:54.720 Oh interesting, like like, oh no, we're actually this is 1744 01:29:54.880 --> 01:30:00.199 the from his concept drawings like to I guess to 1745 01:30:00.199 --> 01:30:05.680 get around I guess, so yeah, huh. It was weird, yeah, interesting, 1746 01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:08.359 because there were certain I don't know what kind of 1747 01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:13.359 monkey ass deal Monk Mattel made where they did not 1748 01:30:13.600 --> 01:30:15.399 have the rights to certain things like how do you 1749 01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:18.760 not anticipate that you're gonna want to make toys of 1750 01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:19.479 all this stuff? 1751 01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:22.479 In a post star Wars World, how right, not think 1752 01:30:22.479 --> 01:30:22.920 about this? 1753 01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:25.880 You know, so they they didn't have the rights to 1754 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:29.199 like certain characters that were in the movie only, or 1755 01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:32.920 that the way they appeared in the movie only really weird. 1756 01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:38.560 Yeah, this is sweet, It. 1757 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:41.239 Is until you realize that these are like high school seniors. 1758 01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:45.640 So let's be honest. How long is this really gonna last? Right? Right? 1759 01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:47.359 Still one of them leaves for college. 1760 01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:49.760 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I love you well, do 1761 01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:50.279 you though? 1762 01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:58.199 That's still sweet? I loved my high school girlfriend in 1763 01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:00.680 a way that only you know, seventeen year olds can. 1764 01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:11.159 And then yeah, right, yeah, see Skeletor's like really into this. Oh, 1765 01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:13.039 by the way, I was gonna mention seeing that fountain 1766 01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:15.439 location again is reminding me of our what we were 1767 01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:19.560 talking about. So where this movie is just proudly absorbing 1768 01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:23.000 all its influences et Star Wars whatever, you know, I mean, 1769 01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:26.399 famously Star Wars is a collection of influences for George 1770 01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:28.800 Lucas too, So it's you know, that's what stuff is. 1771 01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:34.600 It's things that are created based on the inspirations in 1772 01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:36.840 the artist's head. You know, that's right. 1773 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:40.760 So yeah, I mean, we would not have gotten Star 1774 01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:43.359 Wars if not for Flash Gordon. Yeah, exactly, And we 1775 01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:47.800 would not have gotten Flash Gordon if not for Star Wars. Yeah, right, 1776 01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:54.479 so I think this right here, seeing his eyes and 1777 01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:56.760 how important that is, Like I was thinking about in 1778 01:31:56.840 --> 01:32:00.720 terms of skeletor either in the action figures or the 1779 01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:05.119 cartoon show. You know, you never see his eyes, right, 1780 01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:09.640 and that's you know, so much of the performances in 1781 01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:10.840 the eyes. Totally. 1782 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:17.359 Yeah, it was a smart That mask is really smartly designed, 1783 01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:17.880 for sure. 1784 01:32:18.359 --> 01:32:24.399 Absolutely so. 1785 01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:28.439 I guess this is him addressing the galaxy, which is 1786 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:30.039 like five people at Mesquez Rocks. 1787 01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:35.479 Again, that's it. We don't see the King, we don't 1788 01:32:35.479 --> 01:32:38.119 see the Queen, we don't see anybody. Yeah, that's a 1789 01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:38.640 good point. 1790 01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:41.319 That would be kind of nice to see like the 1791 01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:42.199 the other leaders. 1792 01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:45.680 Exactly right, because according to this movie, it's basically the 1793 01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:52.920 Sorceress is the head of Gray Skull and that's it. Yeah, 1794 01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:54.800 he said the thing he said, he said Master of 1795 01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:59.239 the Universe. This is kind of a cool haunting effect 1796 01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:03.479 having the Sorcerer age. Yeah, she's like Alec Baldwin and 1797 01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:06.479 Geena Davis and yeah, totally exactly that. 1798 01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:15.319 Yeah, you know I was reading I don't know if 1799 01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:17.600 you can verify this stuff, because you know, I tried 1800 01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:20.159 always back this stuff up, but sometimes I couldn't. But 1801 01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:22.720 there were just a lot of ideas that they wanted 1802 01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:27.600 to do, Like they wanted to show Snake Mountain. There 1803 01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:29.319 was like a scene I guess with Ta mention it 1804 01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:31.880 a few times, but they don't show it. Yeah, and Tila. 1805 01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:35.039 There's a scene with Tila freeing prisoners that was scripted 1806 01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:37.520 at the beginning, sort of setting up her as being 1807 01:33:37.520 --> 01:33:40.680 a woman of action and he man and his cohorts 1808 01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:42.560 were going to be booked at a police station. But 1809 01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:46.039 just I guess with budgeting limitations, they couldn't shoot all 1810 01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:46.560 this stuff. 1811 01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:49.680 Yeah, but I think. 1812 01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:54.359 They did a good job of still making this feel 1813 01:33:54.439 --> 01:33:55.399 complete without. 1814 01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:56.039 All that stuff. 1815 01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:59.159 I agree some movies can't pull that off, but I 1816 01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:00.479 feel like this one does enough. 1817 01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:04.000 Yeah, I think some of that stuff would have been nice. 1818 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:07.920 Definitely Tila fleeing the prisoners, freeing the prisoners, that would 1819 01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:11.239 have been good. There was also in the in an 1820 01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:15.960 earlier draft of the script where you had, uh, I 1821 01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:18.560 guess just like a button at the end that they 1822 01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:25.840 find wreckage of like a NASA spacecraft. Yes, yes to 1823 01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:29.680 show that like human humans were the humans in the 1824 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:32.199 future were the first settlers of Eternia. 1825 01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:35.920 Yeah, yeah, I like that. Yeah, I do like it, 1826 01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:38.439 And I mean it's not not needed. It's a cool idea. 1827 01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:41.800 It's like needlessly confusing, right, Like, yeah, that's true, that's true. 1828 01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:45.840 You know, even though in the cartoon and in the 1829 01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:48.520 comic books and stuff, you know, he Man's mother is 1830 01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:52.880 from Earth, so she's a she's a human astronaut who 1831 01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:56.800 crashed on Eternia and so that's you know, so she 1832 01:34:57.039 --> 01:34:57.520 stays there. 1833 01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.640 So he Man is half humans. So in the new film, 1834 01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:01.479 you know, that's like a big part of the story 1835 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:05.359 that he's on Earth for for reasons beyond just oh 1836 01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:07.520 I had I had a button on the cosmic key 1837 01:35:07.560 --> 01:35:11.079 and here you are. You know, is that why he's 1838 01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:11.680 called he Man? 1839 01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:13.720 Like when she gave birth and I guess it was 1840 01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:16.720 with you know, an alien she had, you know, he's like, 1841 01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:17.680 she was like. 1842 01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:27.239 Is he Man? You know, they've never like satisfactorily explained that, right, 1843 01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:30.880 because obviously the term he man predates this toy line 1844 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.000 because it's like, if you're a big muscular guy, you're 1845 01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:36.119 a he man, right, And that's like a silly name 1846 01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:39.640 for a character. And you know, I know, I know 1847 01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:42.079 that they've tried to do stuff like saying that that 1848 01:35:42.279 --> 01:35:45.199 the sword, it's the it's the sword of he and 1849 01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:49.399 like like come up with some kaka Mamy's funny, you know, 1850 01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:53.279 And I'm I, I understand the the drive to do that, 1851 01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:56.760 but I'm also like, you know, I don't think there's 1852 01:35:56.760 --> 01:35:58.079 any fixing this. I think it is. 1853 01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:01.079 It just is what it is, and somehow we can 1854 01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:04.199 say it without you know, giggling, like, so you did it. 1855 01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:07.199 Right, well, And I think it helps that that the 1856 01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:10.720 phrase he man has passed out of the parlance for 1857 01:36:10.760 --> 01:36:13.399 what it used to refer to, you know what, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1858 01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:19.840 exactly right. Yeah. So this this costume Skeletor is wearing 1859 01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:22.119 currently now that he's now that he is a god, 1860 01:36:23.319 --> 01:36:25.399 it tells me that my man just wants to go 1861 01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:31.199 to Vegas. Really, so it's both impressive and extremely cheap 1862 01:36:31.239 --> 01:36:32.279 looking at the same time. 1863 01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:36.920 I remember, even as a kid, thinking he looks scary 1864 01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:41.039 in it, something about it. Maybe it's because of the 1865 01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:44.439 bottom half of his face being that skull and this 1866 01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:48.920 really ornate I don't even know how to explain it, 1867 01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:51.880 sort of It reminds me a little bit of the 1868 01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:54.600 end of Raiders of the Lost Arc. Oh sure, sure, 1869 01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:57.479 you know that sort of overly ornate like get up. 1870 01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:00.319 See, I'm just like, you have the power of God, 1871 01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:07.560 you can do anything, and you landed at like horror. Liberachi. 1872 01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:12.520 You know when you're saying, I gotta be honest, like, 1873 01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:14.439 it's always been kind of scary to me, and I 1874 01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:17.079 don't exactly know how to put it into words. There's 1875 01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:21.399 something really nightmarish about it to me, something about the gold, 1876 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:26.840 how beautiful it looks and horrifying with that face underneath 1877 01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:30.760 the mask. But you saying that now, I completely see 1878 01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:35.239 what you're saying, but I still dig it. There's something 1879 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:38.199 weird and like he has leveled up in sort of 1880 01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:39.000 a scary way. 1881 01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:42.319 I feel like they sell that because of this movie. 1882 01:37:43.319 --> 01:37:46.640 If I get the power of a god, I'll at 1883 01:37:46.720 --> 01:37:48.279 least consider making myself look like that. 1884 01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:52.920 And he hasn't turned himself into like Super Shredd or anything, 1885 01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:55.079 or make himself even bigger or you know, as big 1886 01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:56.319 as the room or anything. 1887 01:37:56.399 --> 01:38:00.600 And I just see he gets all the powers. He 1888 01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:02.439 looks like that, and the first thing he does he 1889 01:38:02.479 --> 01:38:06.880 points his fingers that he man goes Neil like, bro, 1890 01:38:07.039 --> 01:38:10.279 come on, I know, I know, just go rule the universe. 1891 01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:14.800 I do love that there's bat wings on it. I 1892 01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:16.000 didn't notice that till this time. 1893 01:38:16.319 --> 01:38:21.279 Yep, yep, I mean I get The production design for 1894 01:38:21.359 --> 01:38:25.600 this Grayskull sequence is very impressive. William Stout talked about 1895 01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:29.039 how he built in like multiple levels so that you 1896 01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:31.399 could have a sword fight where the characters are jumping 1897 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:32.840 to different tiers and stuff. 1898 01:38:33.399 --> 01:38:34.119 Super smart. 1899 01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:37.319 Yeah, and unfortunately they didn't get to do any any 1900 01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:37.560 of that. 1901 01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:41.000 Yeah, but even just having those different levels makes the 1902 01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:42.359 place seem dynamic. 1903 01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:46.000 Okay, this right here, look at this, so Evil Lens like, car, 1904 01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:47.880 let's go, and he's like, what about scot Tour And 1905 01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:52.439 he's like nope. And then I love this because this 1906 01:38:52.520 --> 01:38:55.560 is the very very beginning of he man start. He 1907 01:38:55.720 --> 01:38:58.399 didn't even have a sword back yet. Yeah right, and 1908 01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:00.359 Evil Lens like, all right, well we've been through this 1909 01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:05.560 ship before. This dumb ass about to get defeated again. Yeah, 1910 01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:07.960 let's dip like he does not even have a sword 1911 01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:12.560 back Evil and has already gone. She's like, whatever, we 1912 01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:18.159 know this is gonna end. That's hilarious because she she's 1913 01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:23.039 lived through the filmation series, she's seen him get his 1914 01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:27.000 ass handed to him every week. That's every weekday afternoon 1915 01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:33.600 on Fox. It was on Fox in our in our neighborhood. 1916 01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:37.279 Yeah, that was a cool shot. 1917 01:39:37.319 --> 01:39:39.279 By the way that I have the power look good. 1918 01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:41.800 I think it's great. I think you the way they 1919 01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:44.640 put the sword the light and now this here, I 1920 01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.239 will say as a kid, I just took it at 1921 01:39:47.279 --> 01:39:50.760 face value. Yes, that power was so much that they've 1922 01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:53.239 just they've drained the power from the room and they're 1923 01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:54.880 just this is how they're fighting. 1924 01:39:55.319 --> 01:39:57.439 And what we're actually seeing is the moment this movie 1925 01:39:57.600 --> 01:39:58.399 ran out of money. 1926 01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:01.119 Yeah, and they were like shooting rilla style, just get 1927 01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:03.600 whatever shots they could. So this is Anthony Delongist in 1928 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:08.000 the skeletor suit, Yeah, aka Blade And I think given 1929 01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:11.279 the constraints they were operating and it is not a 1930 01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:14.600 bad sword fight. No, well the fight is great. 1931 01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:16.840 It's it's just funny where they Yeah, they turned all 1932 01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:18.600 the lights off in the castle so they don't have 1933 01:40:18.640 --> 01:40:21.000 to have any of the other actors and there's basically 1934 01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:24.439 just two spotlights. Yeah, so we can see them fighting. 1935 01:40:25.399 --> 01:40:26.199 It's like, what do you do? 1936 01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:30.600 They make it stylish and you know, it works, it works. 1937 01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:33.720 And then this part basically from here to when he 1938 01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:37.920 tossed the skeletor over This was like three months later. Oh, 1939 01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:40.439 just so they could get the ending of the fight. 1940 01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:41.640 Oh interesting. 1941 01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:47.439 Yeah, so this is like at the at the effects house, 1942 01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:49.800 you know, just whatever they had available. 1943 01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:52.600 Like a like a stage, like have a floor and 1944 01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:53.000 a light. 1945 01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:54.039 Yeah. 1946 01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:58.239 Interesting, Okay, I read that originally he was a skilled 1947 01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:01.079 that's a that's a good almost lose the sword over 1948 01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:03.640 the edge and him gripping it. I agree, that's good. 1949 01:41:04.079 --> 01:41:07.199 But he was supposed to this shot right here, probably 1950 01:41:07.239 --> 01:41:09.680 the most poorly aged shot in the whole movie. 1951 01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:11.720 Sure, but I mean it was the eighties. You got 1952 01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:13.760 Diehard with that, you got RoboCop with that, you got 1953 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:15.000 this with that. 1954 01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:18.600 But this is the most Egregiously he's not really falling anywhere. 1955 01:41:18.800 --> 01:41:21.359 No, I mean, Diard looks incredible, but it is funny. 1956 01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:24.840 You just have this overhead, you know, fixed camera watching 1957 01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:27.039 the camp or the bad guy just fall down. 1958 01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:31.000 I mean we saw Palpatine fall to his yeah death, 1959 01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:34.760 just four years earlier, right right right, I mean this 1960 01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:35.600 is very much that. 1961 01:41:36.079 --> 01:41:38.039 Yeah, sounded like a shaft or something. 1962 01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:41.359 Yeah, that's literally what my son, my twelve year old, said, 1963 01:41:41.640 --> 01:41:44.560 just now, I was watching the end of it. He's like, oh, 1964 01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:45.439 it's like Palpatine. 1965 01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:46.800 Yeah, I was like. 1966 01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:52.279 And somehow they both return, so he does. Okay, so 1967 01:41:52.359 --> 01:41:55.119 let's talk about Lubik's weird ass ending here. 1968 01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:59.560 How much time has passed because our kid, the kids 1969 01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:00.199 are still there. 1970 01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:02.760 Well, he's like, hey, what do I have to go 1971 01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:04.960 back to? Over here? I got a castle and I 1972 01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:06.920 want the sorceress to be just like look over and 1973 01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:11.039 be like, no you don't right now? Who is this woman? 1974 01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:16.279 I wish she like yeah, right, like have her be 1975 01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:19.479 somebody who's life he saves on Eternia or something. 1976 01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:21.840 I mean, if they had more money, maybe there would 1977 01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:24.920 have been a scene. It makes no sense though, you know, no, 1978 01:42:25.079 --> 01:42:27.119 but but we like rolled with this stuff back then. 1979 01:42:27.199 --> 01:42:29.399 We absolutely roll with it. But again, if it's one 1980 01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:31.359 of those things where you show like all his life 1981 01:42:31.359 --> 01:42:33.159 he's wanted to prove that aliens are. 1982 01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:35.640 Real, and now he's now he married to one. 1983 01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:36.439 Exactly. 1984 01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:42.840 Yeah, Get the Good Journey reminds me a little bit 1985 01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:46.000 of face off. You know how they like sort of 1986 01:42:46.079 --> 01:42:48.680 use their hands. Oh that face thing, it's like a 1987 01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:50.840 face wipe basically the way. 1988 01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:54.159 They see, all we need is Christina Pickles to go 1989 01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:57.439 to Courtney Cox and be like, in another life you 1990 01:42:57.479 --> 01:43:01.479 could have been my daughter, and we'd be like, wow, 1991 01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.479 that's that's weirdly prescient. 1992 01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:08.880 The creators of Friends who are like this stoned one night, 1993 01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:09.520 you know, like. 1994 01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:12.520 I mean, I wondered, did they did they? I mean, 1995 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.319 isn't it within the realm of possibility that you had 1996 01:43:15.359 --> 01:43:18.439 a Masters of the Universe fan in that creative food 1997 01:43:18.479 --> 01:43:22.520 chains And when it came time to casting Monica's mom, 1998 01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:25.439 they're like, well what about her? Right, like, yeah, yeah, 1999 01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:27.680 you're telling me it. It didn't come up. 2000 01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:31.239 I'm sure someone was aware. 2001 01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:34.600 Did these two actors just agree never to mention it again? 2002 01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:34.960 You know? 2003 01:43:35.319 --> 01:43:39.079 Yeah, that's funny. By the way, I love like how 2004 01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:43.479 undefined this key is. Yes, It's like when when we 2005 01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:47.239 need their you know, for him to struggle with it, 2006 01:43:47.319 --> 01:43:49.520 he's like, I can't figure out the sequence. But then 2007 01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:51.760 later he's just like, oh, yeah, it's just this, you know, Like. 2008 01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:54.880 Yeah, and when do you want to go? Yeah, yeah, 2009 01:43:54.960 --> 01:43:59.560 I can send you anywhere anytime. Okay, Okay, so let's 2010 01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:01.119 talk about it. You know, you and I just before 2011 01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:03.239 we got on we were happening to talk about time 2012 01:44:03.279 --> 01:44:06.840 paradoxes and movies. Yeah, let's talk about the absolute shit 2013 01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:12.800 show that's unleashed by this end here. Okay, first of all, 2014 01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:14.880 I love that that Julie's wearing kind of like a 2015 01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:16.800 Loura Angeles Wilder. 2016 01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:17.880 Dude. 2017 01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:21.319 I thought about that because I do remember people wearing 2018 01:44:21.399 --> 01:44:25.000 these things. I do, like I like my mom or 2019 01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:27.159 like neighbors or you know, like and I was like, 2020 01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:31.399 that is such an odd, hilarious Yeah. 2021 01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:34.920 Okay, So she's she's like, right before she goes through 2022 01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:36.439 the port, she's like, wait, wait, good doors, and the 2023 01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:38.800 idea is like, send me back to before my parents die. Yeah, 2024 01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:42.720 willedore because he's just that goddamn good Yeah, he knew it. 2025 01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:45.760 So now she's like, hey, I'm gonna take your keys 2026 01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:50.159 so you don't diem. Hmm. Now I see a logic 2027 01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:54.840 problem here, which is he probably has another set of keys. 2028 01:44:55.439 --> 01:44:56.760 Yeah yeah, yeah right. 2029 01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:01.560 Uh that's part A, but part B. If you prevent 2030 01:45:01.640 --> 01:45:05.239 their deaths, have you not undone everything that happened in 2031 01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:05.920 the movie. 2032 01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:09.760 If it's like a loop or like a yeah, like 2033 01:45:09.800 --> 01:45:14.840 a if she's creating some sort of strand in time, yeah, 2034 01:45:14.880 --> 01:45:20.279 that is screwing up the future, right, I guess it 2035 01:45:20.319 --> 01:45:22.119 would be the future now from where she is in 2036 01:45:22.159 --> 01:45:22.920 this moment. 2037 01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:25.920 Like this is before, this is whatever it is like 2038 01:45:25.960 --> 01:45:28.880 a month or so ago, right m hm. So now nothing, 2039 01:45:29.319 --> 01:45:33.119 nothing that happened before happens. So then somebody else finds 2040 01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:37.600 the key, right right right? Wait Zachi sequel. 2041 01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:42.159 Wait, by the way, so this right here on the street, 2042 01:45:42.239 --> 01:45:44.319 I was thinking it'd be so funny because she's basically like, 2043 01:45:44.479 --> 01:45:47.479 got your keys, okay, you know, and then she runs 2044 01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:48.640 out to her boyfriend like I did it. 2045 01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:50.119 I saved my parents life. 2046 01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:52.720 I did everything within the realm of possibility to stop 2047 01:45:52.720 --> 01:45:55.039 them from beginning out, and is as they're in the street. 2048 01:45:55.079 --> 01:45:56.560 I think it'd be funny out of focus in the 2049 01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:58.479 background if you see her parents in a car backing 2050 01:45:58.479 --> 01:46:02.479 out of a driveway, because to your point, like they 2051 01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:06.199 have like a backup set of keys, and she thinks 2052 01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:06.880 she did enough. 2053 01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:11.600 That's hilarious. Well, so, so, as you mentioned there was 2054 01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:15.000 going to be a sequel, Uh, they were going to 2055 01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:20.399 recast Dolphin Gren. Presumably they would have recast Frank Langela 2056 01:46:20.479 --> 01:46:23.720 because they had budgeted four million dollars for the sequel. 2057 01:46:24.640 --> 01:46:25.079 Wow. 2058 01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.720 So I once again, He Man would have come to Earth, 2059 01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:32.239 and I think he would have just like been on 2060 01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:36.239 Earth just working at a used car a lot or something. 2061 01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:37.680 I don't, I don't, I don't know what you do 2062 01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:38.880 with four million dollars. 2063 01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:41.239 Yeah. 2064 01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:46.479 Wow, there's pig Boy Richard Spawnder. Hey, that's the credit there. 2065 01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:51.199 So the sequel did not happen because because they were 2066 01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:52.880 going to shoot it back to back with Spider Man. 2067 01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:54.600 As you mentioned, it was gonna be Albert Pion who 2068 01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:58.640 went on to do Captain America for for for Cannon, 2069 01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:04.680 but the costumes and sets that they had designed were 2070 01:47:04.720 --> 01:47:08.680 then used for a movie called Cyborg starring Jean Claud 2071 01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:11.279 van Dam and that movie came out and it did 2072 01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:14.600 okay because Cannon lost the rights to both He Man 2073 01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:16.439 and Spider Man at the same time, so neither of 2074 01:47:16.439 --> 01:47:19.560 those got made. Cyborg did okay, not well enough to 2075 01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:23.680 save Canon and there it went no more Canon. Wow. 2076 01:47:23.720 --> 01:47:26.399 And this movie, as we said, had a budget of 2077 01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:29.760 twenty two million, and it only grows seventeen million worldwide. 2078 01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:35.800 Yeah. So that's impressively bad, which I mean, doesn't it 2079 01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:38.920 feel like it should have done at least twenty two million. 2080 01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:41.159 I was gonna say, I'm a little surprised. 2081 01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:44.279 I mean, even if there was he man fatigue, I 2082 01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:46.840 don't know, it really feels like it was our time then, 2083 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:51.560 Like kids movies, you know, PG movies aimed at kids 2084 01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:55.039 our age were like the you know, movie du jour 2085 01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:57.880 back then. So, like I I'm a little surprised it 2086 01:47:57.920 --> 01:47:58.600 didn't do better. 2087 01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:02.600 I think that the mistake was making it through cannon, right, 2088 01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:04.479 because they might have been able to get that twenty 2089 01:48:04.479 --> 01:48:06.640 two million budget, but they didn't have any money to 2090 01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:10.960 promote it. And you know, they didn't have any like 2091 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:13.840 because after a couple of weeks, the theaters just dropped this, right, 2092 01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:17.159 And normally, if you're a studio, you're able to strong 2093 01:48:17.279 --> 01:48:19.760 arm the chains into being like, look, if you want 2094 01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:21.920 to play this thing a month from now, you're going 2095 01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:24.399 to keep this in theaters. You know, they didn't have 2096 01:48:24.439 --> 01:48:28.680 anything right, right, right, So I think all of that 2097 01:48:28.720 --> 01:48:32.520 stuff factored in and it just led to this movie 2098 01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:35.079 doing whatever it did, not much, but it became a 2099 01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:39.960 beloved cult artifact. Certainly those who grew up with it 2100 01:48:40.439 --> 01:48:46.960 have have fondness that they've nursed for forty years. Almost Yeah, 2101 01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:47.439 I mean. 2102 01:48:47.439 --> 01:48:51.359 I I love it for the nostalgia of it. Like 2103 01:48:51.520 --> 01:48:53.279 I didn't see it when I was seven, but I 2104 01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:54.560 did see it when I was pretty young, like I 2105 01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:57.840 said on TV, so I kind of remember it. But 2106 01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:01.720 there's that bit of it. But also just I don't know, 2107 01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:03.359 growing up in this time and watching a lot of 2108 01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:05.840 movies like this, just seeing a movie that looks like 2109 01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:08.800 this is really daring to me and fun. 2110 01:49:11.720 --> 01:49:15.319 I agree. I think the ways in which they adapted 2111 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:20.239 the original mythology for the big screen I appreciated. I 2112 01:49:20.239 --> 01:49:22.760 appreciated some of the you know, they didn't give he 2113 01:49:22.840 --> 01:49:27.159 Man his page boy prince Ville haircut, which I think 2114 01:49:27.159 --> 01:49:30.039 I'll take the mullet that he has in this one. Yeah, 2115 01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:31.800 that is, you know in the new one. You see that. 2116 01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:34.920 It's like you can tell that's the conversation, like how 2117 01:49:34.920 --> 01:49:36.880 do we keep the long hair and not have it 2118 01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:43.680 look sort of you know, dorky dorky? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2119 01:49:43.720 --> 01:49:46.319 And I think they found different ways of accomplishing that. 2120 01:49:46.399 --> 01:49:50.359 But I think, if nothing else, the fact that it 2121 01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:53.800 took forty years for us to get another live action 2122 01:49:53.960 --> 01:49:57.039 he Man tells you that, well, this thing, this movie 2123 01:49:57.079 --> 01:49:59.039 had the field to itself for a very long time, 2124 01:49:59.199 --> 01:50:02.479 so multiple generations have their own relationships with it. 2125 01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:05.640 Yeah. By the way, I'm mystified that they got purple 2126 01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:09.439 Haze by Jimmy Hendricks in this movie. Crazy right, that 2127 01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:10.680 must have been so expensive. 2128 01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:14.159 That's that's the other half the budget. Yeah, it's the 2129 01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:19.319 Castle Gray Skull set and the Jimmy Hendricks royalties. Yeah. Oh, hey, 2130 01:50:19.560 --> 01:50:22.439 is this the first post credits scene of our lifetimes? 2131 01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:26.920 I didn't even know about this post credit scene until 2132 01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:27.399 much later. 2133 01:50:28.079 --> 01:50:30.880 I feel like I do remember seeing it on TV. Yeah, 2134 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:31.479 I think you saw it? 2135 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:31.760 Wow? 2136 01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:34.520 Then yeah, I definitely didn't stick around for it in 2137 01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:37.680 the theater. Well yeah, yeah, I mean who knew to 2138 01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:40.960 do that back then? Right? But here we go nineteen 2139 01:50:40.960 --> 01:50:44.279 eighty sevens Masters the Universe. Yeah. A lot of fun, 2140 01:50:44.399 --> 01:50:46.920 a lot of fun, fun to revisit, a lot of 2141 01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:51.279 nostalgia there, and I'm certainly looking forward to contrasting this 2142 01:50:51.399 --> 01:50:53.119 one that we just watched with the one that we're 2143 01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:56.359 going to watch in the next couple of days. So hey, 2144 01:50:56.439 --> 01:50:58.560 let us know your thoughts about this film. If you 2145 01:50:58.600 --> 01:51:00.479 have any, you can email us at Movie Film Podcast 2146 01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:02.000 at gmail dot com. You can also hit like on 2147 01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:05.239 our Facebook page Facebook dot com. Slash moviefilm podcast and 2148 01:51:05.359 --> 01:51:07.960 message us there. As always, please go to Apple Podcasts 2149 01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:10.119 and leave review, leave a star rating. 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You 2169 01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:06.800 can also read my reviews, including for the new Masters 2170 01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:09.800 of the Universe film at the San Francisco Chronicle and 2171 01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:12.600 also at IGN and the rap What About You Right. 2172 01:52:12.920 --> 01:52:15.159 You can find episodes I've written of Puppy Dog Pals 2173 01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:17.640 and Young Jedi Adventures streaming on Disney Plus. 2174 01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:22.680 There we go, And with that, this has been our 2175 01:52:22.720 --> 01:52:25.319 movie film commentary track for Masters of the Universe. And 2176 01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:28.880 I'm not gonna say goodbye. I'm gonna say good journey, 2177 01:52:29.399 --> 01:52:29.920 Good Journey. 2178 01:52:30.039 --> 01:52:33.800 Zachy