Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Say Hester and Hester.
Speaker 1: From carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each
other on the air live from the Mercedes Benz Baton
Rouge Studio, gets off the bench.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in hour number three of ot B,
Gonna try to catch up with a guy, Nick Underhill,
New Orleans Dot Football.
Speaker 4: We'll see if Nick gets back to us.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he is at some football practice writing some story.
We'll see if he gets back poetically hopefully, hopefully, because
if it's not, he'll tell us.
Speaker 5: Jake Hayner this third year, apparently it was not.
Speaker 4: Apparently in this third year. Okay, well, we have some
extra time here. I think maybe it is so.
Speaker 6: I actually think practice is from nine to ten forty today,
so he might not be able to.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, Nick, that would have been nice
to know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that kind of impigration would have been useful yesterday.
Speaker 6: This is probably maybe a little bit on me because
like Ross told us this, but we're not calling Ross.
But like I also kind of forgot about it.
Speaker 5: I can't take responsibility and say, maybe you got to
own it.
Speaker 6: I don't know how much of it, like just because
Ross had practice that just from nine to ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Nick could join us from this.
Speaker 6: Is like a completely separate conversation. Like it's Ross telling
me this and the Ellison.
Speaker 4: We'll talk, really think about it. We'll see it's okay.
Speaker 3: I Actually, so our foundation does have a pretty cool
raffle going on right now. Flynn hasn't entered it yet,
so that's a little bit disappointing. But we've got three
things on the raffle, right So, we've got a game
war in l s Hu, Jersey, a game war in
San Diego Chargers, Jersey. And we have this very cool
one of one custom card that for c Underscore Custom
Cards did for us on Instagram. And Chris is a
great guy. He's done you know, cards for me before.
He does custom cards all over the place. But follow
them for the Underscore custom cards on Instagram and you'll
see take all the word that's a one of one
right there. It's got a Bronco a charge is a
custom card.
Speaker 5: Just a magnet.
Speaker 6: That was about to be impressed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can get you can get custom card, you
can get you get innings labbed.
Speaker 3: But it is a custom card like he created it.
There is only one of those out there even do that.
It's got like a Bronco and a Charger and it's
got me in the Charger uniform.
Speaker 4: It's a very very cool card.
Speaker 3: And again you get a game war in LSU and
a game war and Chargers jersey and shout out to
Kevin Fontneau who also won our football raffle that we
had a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4: But yeah, this one is live. It's gonna be live
this week.
Speaker 3: Only ten dollars per entry, Vinmo, PayPal, cash Apple like
the foundation goes all all three of those ten dollars,
no limit on entry. So you know, one hundred dollars
obviously gives you ten entries and you get all three,
so you would get all three and we'll probably I'll
probably spend the wheel here live on air at.
Speaker 4: A little drama. See who ends up, you know winning
the giveaway there?
Speaker 5: Can we do it? If we do it, can we
like put it on the screen here, Like.
Speaker 4: I think we've done that.
Speaker 3: I think we've actually done that before. Yeah, we've done
that before. So that is our that is our raffle
going on right now. If you want to find out
more information at Hester Sports Foundation on Instagram and at
Hester Sports.
Speaker 4: Believe is the handle on Twitter.
Speaker 3: I believe it's at Hester Sports on Twitter, so you
can find all the information there. Only a couple so far.
So you've got great chances of winning. I know Flynt
really always won in one of my jerseys, so you
can enter.
Speaker 5: No, I mean you should do it like I would
if I was doing a some sort of raffle. You
would not be eligible to win. I would expect you
to give me the ten dollars, but you cannot.
Speaker 3: Win, Okay, give me, well, you can give me one
hundred dollars, that's ten injuries.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I will absolutely donate to the Hester Foundation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Taylor, you can give ten dollars. That's just three
monsters at a lot of monsters.
Speaker 4: Actually probably two.
Speaker 5: That's about caffeine. He's going to be missing out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so game more in LSU jersey. I believe it's
from the six season rookie year Chargers jersey.
Speaker 6: Or does it still have probably so?
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably so.
Speaker 3: And then again one of one custom trading card that
was done by four C so the number four see
Underscore custom cards.
Speaker 4: Check them out on Instagram. That's very cool and dollars
could win that.
Speaker 5: That's very cooled. Game war and jersey is a big deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh, so many of those puppies then shout
out to one of my donors for our foundation who
I think he said he won the Chargers jersey in
an auction, because that's how the NFL used to do it,
Like we didn't get our jerseys all the time like
they do now, and so the NFL would actually put
them on auction. I think he said he won in
twenty sixteen, like some random NFL auction that they had. Yeah,
and so it's kind of cool, like donated the jerseys back.
Speaker 4: To me and be able to raffle off. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good deal. It's good that we have
this platform to kind of talk like to do that.
I mean, for ten dollars to be able to give
to foundation that supports charities and things like that, and
you know, have a chance, no matter what the chances are,
to win some cool memorabilia and a game jersey, which
is awesome from one of the best LSU teams in history.
Six six good, pretty good.
Speaker 4: Pretty good, and we were pretty good that year, end
up winning the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 5: I think just for only four first round picks. Yeah,
only three on offense.
Speaker 4: Pretty good. Quinn says, you can do more than ten
dollars map.
Speaker 5: All right, you take eleven, it only gets.
Speaker 4: You one entry. Still, it only gets you one.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I do forget about that sometimes that in
the game war and Jersey market.
Speaker 4: People that collect they don't want it washed, which I get.
Speaker 3: I get they want the stains and everything, but like,
also I didn't smell great after games. Na I mean
the San Diego Jersey maybe smells better than the the
LS years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get you want like the grass stains or
blood stains would be really cool, but like, I don't know,
you think there's a collector out there. It's just like
put it up this space selling.
Speaker 7: I prefer on wall.
Speaker 3: Six was the last time we won the Sugar Bowl, correct,
I guess technically because seven nineteen was the Natty and
not technically.
Speaker 5: Just just go to the Natty too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, eleven was the Natty when you played there.
Speaker 7: So basically every time it's in New Orleans, you you find.
Speaker 5: A way to go. It was like that three seven eleven,
nineteen eighteen we miss one.
Speaker 3: I know, the Super Bowl is in California, Matt's favorite place,
Northern Califoria.
Speaker 5: It's a really great state, really is. There's a lot
really cool about it. Gas brasses are super high, so
you know it's real premium taxes super high, so you
know it's a great place. Uh, groceries they're hired too,
so they got to be better quality groceries.
Speaker 3: Right Miami this year, Oh okay, Miami Toll Roads, hard
Rock Stadium highest. I don't think I've ever been there,
so when I was in when I was in California,
I used to use the toll lane and I had
ordered a fast pass but it hadn't gotten in yet,
and traffic horrible, horrible, So like I already got to
be there super early. I'm not trying to leave my
house like at four am. Although, like if we were
in a losing streak, we all carpulled and we would
pick each other up earlier and earlier try to break
the losing streak.
Speaker 4: It never really worked, so we're picking each other up
like at four am. It got ridiculous.
Speaker 3: But my rookie year, you know, I'm just trying to
be there thirty five forty minutes before meetings start and
traffic was just wasn't what I was used to, even
living in Baton Rouge, and so I did take my hat,
put it on the headrest, put a shirt over the
car seat, and tried to make it look like somebody
else in the passenger seat in the carpole lane for
like a couple of months until I got my easy pass,
fast pass whatever it was, because I wasn't sitting in
that traffic and I had to get to practice, and
I had the story all ready to go if I
got pulled over, because that's a major, major ticket. But
I would try, like I dressed my passenger seat to
make it look like it was somebody in.
Speaker 5: The passenger and it worked. Never got stopped, absolutely did.
And if you did get stopped where you were, they
wouldn't have cared that you played for the Chargers, because
nobody cares about the Chargers there, Like, yeah, okay, whatever,
ticket straight to jail.
Speaker 3: So true, I gotta get the practice, like we had.
Speaker 5: A team here, Na, dude, you get a ticket straight to.
Speaker 7: I was reading about a year ago a guy got
pulled over, got major fines because he had a mannequin,
like a full on mannequin dressed up as a person
pulled over for like tail light out speed and whatever
top sold.
Speaker 5: He got like, I remember, bad at you?
Speaker 4: I remember, I get it.
Speaker 5: It was like posted all over the the news newspaper,
and it was on the news and stuff. Somebody was like,
you know one of those inflatable dolls that has the
looks surprised all the time. One of them look surprised.
It looks surprised all the time. I was in the
front seat, shocking, I told.
Speaker 7: Jo I told Jos watching Old School the other day
when the woman comes up to the house and she's like,
I feel like I feel like he's gotten a lot
more mature. And Luke Wilson stand there talking to him.
Will Ferrell walks out with the blow of doll behinds like, Hey,
where do you want this?
Speaker 5: What do you think this should go? Oh? That's good,
good clean fun, so good, good clean fun up there
in Seattle.
Speaker 4: Daniel Basham, Hello, authorities, I have a recording of Jacob Ester.
Speaker 3: You'll want to hear Satue. The limitations is over. I'm old,
my man, it was over fifteen years ago. Didn't cancel us,
that was seventeen years ago.
Speaker 5: What'd you say? You think?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 5: What say what.
Speaker 3: Uh. Teap House says, super clean l s U jersey
must be from the Auburn game. I don't know what
you're talking about, because Auburn games were always mean, nasty, tough,
like if they were not clean games. But it's just
like a like a stock image of of a of
a jersey there.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, that's when I went in stock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I just put that together real quick. Had
some help from Matt's favorite friend best friend Chat GBT.
Speaker 5: Chat GBT is pretty great, even though it has failed
me multiple times right here on this show live. That's
all right, I must keep going to it.
Speaker 4: I feel like I knew what I should probably get them.
Speaker 5: Should I get the premium?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I use it.
Speaker 5: It's four cards, like if it was like it was
like four a month.
Speaker 3: Do you know how quick though you can list trading
cards when you have it and give you information and
kind of a break.
Speaker 5: I get that, but I get all that info on
just I type it in an eBay and I get
all the info there not as quick and I can't
trust I don't know if I can trust it or not.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, well, I don't know. I look at
eBay for comps, but we do it different. I do
auction style. You do more by it now because you
got big money cards, I got balling on the budget.
Speaker 5: Cards got all I got all the ranges. That's true.
Speaker 4: Can't have money all right. Since Nick Underhill didn't join us.
Speaker 5: He's not a Foxhold guy right now at all. I
mean they're just like warming up.
Speaker 4: Heads.
Speaker 5: They're doing touch, put the metaglasses on and let's roll.
Bobby would join us, no doubt.
Speaker 4: Bobby literally was in the endoor with coaches blowing whistles,
running in the background on video, walking around with a laptop, and.
Speaker 5: Bobby has us that aura about him that if they
were running like during this show, doing a local sports
show in Baton Rouge, Louisiana at the Ohio State practice facility,
if Ohio State was running in to do practice, he
wouldn't have moved and they would have moved their drill
around him. I do feel like that, Yeah, Bobby, he
wasn't moving for nothing. Bobby was a real one.
Speaker 4: I thought, Nick was, how did this conditioning tesco crushed it?
He crushed it.
Speaker 3: He's got some video dropping a little I saw a
little teaser video. So he had Anthony Schlegel, who was
linebacker played in the NFL, was a strength coach for
the Jags when Urban Meyer was a head coach there.
Speaker 4: He had him doing the timing and uh had his
kids out there.
Speaker 3: Rootneyman, you know, should we do it? No, Memphis did
one the other day. He's like, hey, dad, time me
and we had Jake Flint, the l Shu Streems coach
out there, and he's like, hey, you made you know,
you made like the time that we would ask our
guys to make. He goes, all right, now you got
nineteen more like is there's twenty half castles Memphis.
Speaker 5: Like a lot.
Speaker 6: Nick just texted me back.
Speaker 5: Oh nope, said mister tom Bud.
Speaker 6: Oh bleep, I forgot the day. I can come on
now alight.
Speaker 3: Now, guys, No, I mean he knows the Saints like,
get inside and outside. We're gonna take a break when
we come back. Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football here
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven. You're
listening to Off the Bench.
Speaker 4: First time, Great times.
Speaker 3: Well done on the new kids on the block. Alandra,
I don't know from the old archives.
Speaker 4: I went deep in there. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: All right, let's do a deep dive into the New
Orleans Saints. Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football joins us. Now, Nick,
how's it going? How are you living?
Speaker 5: Sir?
Speaker 2: Tell us, I have no idea what damn day it is.
I didn't know it was Tuesday. Yeah, so I had
no idea. But I'm here, I'm late. I'll run a
lot when it's over. But uh, yeah, that's all me.
Speaker 1: That's all me.
Speaker 4: Hey, it is all good.
Speaker 3: We have certainly been in training camp where you don't
know what day of the week it is, and sometimes
you're three days off what day it actually is.
Speaker 4: So we're just glad that we got you here, all right.
Speaker 3: So I had a chance to go to practice last
week and enjoyed that, had a lot of fun. But
what's been the latest and greatest over the last five
or six days?
Speaker 4: Though? Nick?
Speaker 3: I mean, is it only like strictly been quarterback conversation
for you or you know what kind of stood out
to you at Saints training camp before they head out west.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you caught him on a good day.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: That was probably one of those that was a great
day that we that we've seen the last time we
were out here. It was it was the scrimmage, and
you know, it's funny, and I guess it's rooky rookie
quarterback evaluation stuff. I mean, I think there were moments
within the scrimmage that you could have said, this is
the best Tyler Shuck has looked, and then there were
probably four or five moments where it was maybe some
of the worst moments that he's had. Some of the
decision making was was really poor. You know, he had
the the interception, but I think, you know, you go
through it. We post the uh the full practice footage
on our on our website and kind of shoot it
like you know, the coaches film wide angles so you
can kind of see everything, and uh, you know, I
think I think there's four or five turnover worthy plays
on there that that he got lucky on that probably
didn't get picked off. So it was a mixed bag,
and I think that's probably what it's going to be,
you know, ten days in. I do think that the
the maybe hope and optimism you have coming out of
passing camp quickly gets a reality check, and you know,
you're at the place now where I think I think
it may be a little bit surprising as Spencer Rallery
isn't the Week one starter we'll see in the preseason games.
I mean, there's obviously still a lot of time left,
but I think we are seeing just kind of the
distance that it needs to go. And I think, you know, ultimately,
for this coaching staff, I think they're going to be
a team that wants to to run the ball, play defense,
be conservative, and not lose because of the quarterback. And
I think right now there's one guy that pits out
molding another guy that that has some work to do
to get there. But I'm not rolling it out. We
haven't seen like a real actual game yet, so there's
still plenty of time, but I think that's where it
exists right now.
Speaker 5: Nick, when do you see Kellen Moore kind of making
the adjustment because for the first, you know, handful of days,
they were as a three quarterback rotation with running with
the ones. Now I know that Spencer is has more
reps total with the ones, but like, when do you
is Jake is a plan if y'all had any indication
as a plan to still have three guys rotating in
with the ones, well.
Speaker 2: I think he's Jake kind of get rotated out a
little bit in that that scrimmage practice. He got a
lot of reps at the end, but none of them
more against the first with the first or second team offense,
and it's actually skipped his turn in the rotation. I
think they'll they'll give him the respect to probably keeping
the door open until I'd say, I'd say, you know,
after this preseason game, I think we probably see it stiff.
You know, personally, I kinda I kind of hate it
that that they're giving those some of those first team
reps then, But I would say, like when you take
a step back, like that's me kind of having a
conclusion on the quarterback. Can you take a step back.
I do want the new coach and the new staff
looking at everything with their fresh set of eyes and
seeing what they think about things, informing their own impressions
and opinions. And the only way to do that is
that actually look at them now. Me, I feel like
I've seen enough. I feel like, you know, I've watched
every camp rep he's ever had, every game rep he's
ever had, and I feel like, you know, I know
what it is. But they do need to make that
that that twitch quick. I think you've seen enough to
make that decision. Probably to this point. Today's the last
day here in Metai. I feel like this would even
maybe be a natural, you know, breaking point after today
to kind of focus more on the other two going forward.
But yeah, I think it needs to get there, and
then you know, the sooner they can make the decision
on who's going to be their early season starter. If
their goal is to win as many games as possible
and it isn't just you know, balancing, you know, the
quarterback development thing, I think it would makes sense to
maybe shift towards towards one there. I kind of hope
they don't. I kind of want the whole season to
be about, you know, just kind of the future and
developing these guys and get them to a place. But
you know, we'll kind of see what their goals are
as far as is, you know, with the outcome of
the season is for them. You know, everything Mickey said
is pointing towards I'm trying to win as many games
as possible. So it'll be interesting to see if they
make a shift towards one of these guys sooner than later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I were talking about the other day,
nick I mean, you can't waste days in training camp.
Speaker 4: You just can't, Like those are precious days.
Speaker 3: And when you have two quarterbacks battling, you already feel
like maybe you're a step behind because one guy is
not getting all the reps.
Speaker 4: And certainly when you have three.
Speaker 3: And I was doing the NFL radio show there and
my host Bruce Murray, He's like, I've done these for
a long time. I've done Saint Scamp for as long
as I can remember. I don't remember ever having three
guys come sit down with us, because it just doesn't
happen across the league. And so like, you know, that
number has already been probably too big, and you're right
like by the time you go out west and today
being the last day in Metori, it's almost like you
got to just let everybody know, Hey, this is what
it is.
Speaker 4: We're down to two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: And I would say within the next what six to
eight days, maybe even even if you don't announce a starter,
just go out there and go with the same consistent
guy with the ones, because man, those other ten guys,
they need to hear that leadership voice, whoever that's going
to be for Game one.
Speaker 2: I agree, and especially given that you know, they're younger
guys like you need to and they're gonna help, Like
they need all the help in the world that that
that they can get, you know, putting it, but like
it isn't it isn't you know a vet going out there.
This is these are guys that have that have never
you know, won games, and you got to build it
around him, and it's it's it's puzzled, man, because like
I don't want them to give up on Shuck. But
if your goal is to try to win, you know,
the division, and again that's what Mickey says it is,
I don't think it should be their goal. I think
they should go the whole other direction. I like Julian
Blackman as a player. I think he's had a great camp.
You know, I thought that was an opportunity wasted to
just get a little bit worse without doing anything and
not sending a message to your team just all right,
we're gonna go with stanker. So I didn't even like
that stunning, Like I'm I'm far off on the other side. Again,
I think he's good. I think he's a good culture guy.
But I just wouldn't have made the signing so I
feel like their goals for the season are different than
what I think their goals should be. We'll see what works.
You know, I'm not nearly arrogant enough to think there's
only one way of building a team and only one
way of getting better, So I could definitely be be
wrong here. But if if you're gonna spend this season,
like you know, if it's if it's not shock, look,
it could end up being rattler. But I think the
odds are that you you probably don't have the starting
quarterback long term on your team right now. Just given
league data, you got like a thirty percent chance of
hitting in the second round. You have like, yeah, four
percent chance of hitting in the fifth round. You know,
chances are that they're probably looking again. So you know,
either way, like, I just want them exhausting every possibility
at the end of the season, and I want them
to know one hundred percent, hey this guy, we took
a forty is the answer or isn't the answer? And
you know, I want that door to stay open. But well,
we'll see. You know, if you are trying to win
as many games as possible, it makes more sense to
try to try to move behind one guy after that
charges again.
Speaker 5: You're being a real negative nick today it comes quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think it's I don't think it's
negative though, Like I want him to do the thing
that that builds him out long term possible. Like I'm
taking the five six year of you on this thing,
not just like how do you win the NFC South
and try to be better than the Buccaneers, Like you know,
I'm looking at you. How do you compete with the Chiefs?
How do you get up there with the Bills, the
Ravens all that stuff? Like you know it is though,
I mean, it's it's just the truth though, Like there's
only a couple Jalen Hurts is out there and like
before out a ten hit rate, going back to Derek Carr,
two of those guys didn't even hit with their own team,
you know, like Gino had to go somewhere else to
become a success. Garoppolo had to go somewhere else to
become a success. I guess his path was, you know,
pretty block for a good reason. So I wouldn't necessarily
call like Jimmy and miss for the Patriots, but you know,
to those guys had to go somewhere else, so like
even hitting in the second round and then having the
patience to harvest like the good permit. That's why I
want them to take their time with it, Like I
don't want them to go all in behind Rattler, never
really give Shuck the real look. Get to a point
where they're they're dropping a guy, you know, first, second, third,
whatever it is wherever they're picking next year, and then
all of a sudden, shut go somewhere else and he hits,
and it's like, well, they didn't have the opportunity to
look on him, and you know, I just want them
to know for sure what they have. And if Tyler
shucks your answer, you can you can drop Parker or
Woods or you know whoever, or you know, Caleb downs,
like that's that's an even better outcome. But I just
want them definitive answers by the end of the season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and whoever it ends up being long term for
this season. I'm not gonna say long term pass the
seem but for the season whoever ends up being the
starter for the majority of the season. In order for
them to have any success at all, we're gonna have
to have a lot of improvement and for Chrystal lave
Rashishah to step up their game and start playing at
the next level because a good receiver being friendly to
the quarterback, getting open, making fifty catches can make a
decent quarterback good and a good good quarterback great. So
like what if I know the depth isn't there at
wide receiver. So talk a little bit about the death,
but those two top guys that we have have to
rely on, Like, what have you seen from them? Do
you see glimpses that, Yeah, these guys can take that
next step to be true number ones, true really good
receivers in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always thought Chris is there, you know, I
think he has that kind of talent to be really
it's just it's just being on the healthy and getting
the ball. I do think she is obviously a different
a different player right now. I think you obviously see
the steps. I call him the MVP at camp, Like
easily he's gained a little bit of muscle, gained a
little bit of weight, and you know, you you actually
we talk about that stuff every year, but like you
he's visibly different, and you know the thing is, like
it stands out too, Like when you watch videos of him,
because if you can't see the number clearly videos to
zoomed out, you know, you're always looking at that Chris
or is that Rashid And it's like, all right, Christies
the armband on, and that becomes the identifier. He's body
just looks different now, like he's just he's a more
he's a more built out guy. And I think that's
going to open up other areas of the field for him. Uh,
if he stays healthy, I think he's gonna have, you know,
relative to the opportunities. I think he's gonna have a
monster year. And yeah, I think both those guys look great.
I think looks okay in what he's going to be doing. Man,
I'm reluctant to drink the Mason tipp and Kolid again.
But he's he's lookome out here at this camp. You know,
we kind of got to see that one in games.
You know. I think these tight ends are gonna have
like every opportunity in the world to be, you know,
really productive in this offense. I don't know if they're
gonna be able to step up or not, but I
you know, it does look like they are going to
play a conservative brand of football. I don't think they
want him to take too many risks, you know. I
think there's gonna be a lot of passes to the
flash of these tight ends, Like that's what we're seeing
out here, you know, to this point, I think they've
done a good job taking advantage. Trayton welch Is is
maybe a sleeper that could possibly sneak his way onto
the team. He's I think every pass but one that's
coming his that's coming his wayter in a team drills
like he he looks solid. He's gotten banged up twice
out here, so I think helse maybe is a thing
for him. But yeah, look, I feel there are things
out here that I feel better about, you know, ten
days in, I feel a little bit better about the
idea of the weapons. I see a way of them,
you know, getting by with with what they have. I
think the secondary is better than I thought it was
going to be. We'll see in these games though, like
is the inflation and the good fields on defense about
the offense or is the defense actually you know, over
exceeding expectations. I think that's what we're gonna find out
on Sunday.
Speaker 3: All right, last one for you, here Nick. The thing
I did notice on the practice I went to. I
was watching one on ones pass protection end routes with
the running backs on the linebackers, and I thought the
running backs had a really good day. It wasn't just Ak.
Clyde had a really good pass protection. A couple of
Reps cam akers as well. Clyde got opened on a
route and beat Stutsman. I believe it was on an
angle route, and they had a good day. The only
one that didn't have a good day was Kendre Miller.
He got pushed around a little little bit in one
on one pass protection. The routes were okay, But like,
what's his development? Was it just like I called him
on a bad day? Is he developing? Is he somebody
that you think the Saints can count on, because like
you've got some veterans in that room now behind Ak
that if he's not ready, they'll just continue to pass
him up.
Speaker 2: No, I you know, I think that's that's probably a
fair synopsis of the camp as a whole. He got
pulled up the field one day for lining up wrong.
So I mean that's the stuff we saw last year too.
So it's everything around running the ball that that kind
of has to come into shape. I think he's been
a little bit more solid than than previous years, but
there's definitely still work to do there. And I still
like man when he carries the ball, though, like you
don't have to look to see who it is, Like
you notice him, he catches your eye. It isn't what
guys that like. He moves different, he's built different. I
still think there's like huge upside there, but he's got
to get everything else right to have a chance to
harvest it. Bully, you know that group. I do think
right now, if you ask me to do the depth chart,
I go Alvin Hendre and Bayless Jones. I think is
a three that are in and I think Clyde, Neil
and Acres are kind of fighting for that other spot.
We'll see how it goes, could change. That's where it's I, oh,
my other bright spot. Since you know it's a leg
sure that I'm mister negative. I feel better about Trevor
Penning this camp. I'm starting to get sold a little bit,
and I feel like I'm gonna regret saying that today
because we're gonna come on here Tuesday. It's gonna be
like NICKI he got blown away on two plays, like
you know, so, I'm good luchit to say it, but
it is what I believe in this moment.
Speaker 3: No, I have heard multiple people that have been at
camp say the same thing about Trevor Penning, And it
does feel like he is so much better.
Speaker 4: When he's not on an island, and his style.
Speaker 3: Of play just feels like interior vibes and he can
be more aggressive. And so you're certainly not the only
person to say that. And we're looking forward to watching
the preseason Saints and Chargers coming up here, looking forward
to breaking that down. Nick, you're the man. We appreciate
you joining us. And hey, when you take that lap,
just make it a long lap.
Speaker 4: You know, tardiness. I mean that's what.
Speaker 3: Less used to always tell us, take a lap, make
it a long lap.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll do it. I got you, all right, Nick.
Speaker 3: We appreciate it, brother, all right, Nick Underhill, New Orleans
Dot Football, the Kendre Miller stuff. The NFL doesn't wait
on anybody. And I don't know him personally. I don't
know if this is his attitude. I have no idea,
but it feels like he thinks they wait on somebody,
and the NFL just does not do that. Yep, and
your a third round pick at the running back position.
I said it last week. It's kind of like a
second round pick kind of go up around when you're
a running back because of the way those guys get
drafted or don't get drafted, I guess I should say,
but that does not give you any safety nets once
you're past a year to the NFL. And again, I
haven't been there every day, but the day that I went,
he was like fifth on the guys that impressed me
as far as the running back group. Now, Jones is
going to be somebody that doesn't. He does like a
little bit of everything. I thought Cam and Clyde have
better days. I thought Devin Neil had a much better.
Speaker 4: Day than he did.
Speaker 3: So seeing how it plays out a running back, it's
gonna be interesting because if you keep Kendre Miller as
your two with a thirty year old running back and
ak it's in great shape. Didn't look like he's slowing
down at all. But he's thirty years old. It's like
forty at every other position. Is Kendre Miller ready to
be your guy? I don't know.
Speaker 5: They when we got to the NFL, they were real
quick to remind us or teach us at that time
that football does not owe you anything. Yes, it'll be here,
no matter gone. Yeah, as soon as you're gone, football
will still be there. So you better get it while
you can get right and stop lining up in the
wrong spot. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, dude, you're doing you're you're you're
two veteran at this.
Speaker 5: Point running stuff. It's not even interesting.
Speaker 4: You're going into year three.
Speaker 3: And again I say it all the time, you're not
reinventing the wheel here when when you're talking about the
running back position.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you might be learning a different offense, but
so is everybody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's not learning any like little small adjustments
of the like running backs, running back.
Speaker 4: You got to learn it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: You can't get on the field and the team can't
trust you.
Speaker 3: And when they've got two guys that are veteran guys,
right was camp Akers was second round pick?
Speaker 4: Some second round pick.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you got a first and a second round pick,
veteran guys that have done things. Clyde's won a super
Bowl in this league.
Speaker 5: They've already each learned multiple offenses and they're learning to
do it. Like, hey, let me tell you. You don't start
a drill over or start a playover or stop practice
for someone lining up wrong. If it's the first time
they've done it, or if it's a brand new place,
you stop it and you make a display of it. Yeah,
if it's a repeat offender and a repeat offense, so
he's done dumb stuff and he did it again, and
that's the and it happens. It happens all the time
to players. But like, if you're a guy, former third
round pick, you're trying to make it and beat out veterans,
you better not do it.
Speaker 3: And another draft pick in Devin Neil that, as Tata
pointed out, the last week's the all time leading rusher
in Kansas history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a very productive and it's.
Speaker 5: A great way to be in the XFL real soon,
It's well said.
Speaker 3: And on that point, also shout out to Cam who
gave a couple of injuries into the game. War and
Jersey Raffle shout out to Cam Akers Uh, nope, but
shout out to Cam. I don't I only won't put
last names out there. It's his business. I'm just gonna
put cam.
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Speaker 4: Do we consider hands in boy band? It's yeah, three boys,
they're in a band.
Speaker 5: I would consider that like more of the boy band than.
Speaker 6: They are actually boys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know they were boys when the song came out.
Speaker 5: Do we consider the Jackson five a boy band? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, but I would say like in sync
and that they were men. What about boys to men?
Which were they transition period?
Speaker 3: We played in Sync, We've played Backstreet, We've played Hanson,
We've played New Kids on the Block. Was about say
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know' say the Jackson five? No, what
about the Temptations?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I mean see, like, no, we're talking about t r
L type boy.
Speaker 5: I know you are. I'm just saying, like.
Speaker 4: Luca didn't go to the Temptations.
Speaker 5: New Kids are on the Block. Wasn't t r L.
Speaker 4: Era it actually had uh it was on there.
Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot of like boy bands, like
every band that's full of.
Speaker 4: Boy bb MAC five.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. What made the boy band?
Speaker 4: What was what class?
Speaker 5: Town?
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Speaker 5: Otown came from the the series, right.
Speaker 4: Girl, he's the girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that Wastown.
Speaker 5: The one that was the slam.
Speaker 4: No town was what was that? They had a song
called Liquid Dreams. I'm gonna leave it at that. Oh gosh,
it's the name of their songs. What it was called?
What that was the name of the song?
Speaker 5: A boy band?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 5: I was, like I said, at a song of boys men.
Speaker 6: I guess technically like Van Halen could.
Speaker 4: Be a boy band. I mean yeah, for sure, But
you know what I mean, Like when I think.
Speaker 5: Boy band, I think actor boys, New Kids that was
their genre band, But like what made it that genre?
It was like poor poppy.
Speaker 6: They dance, so I think it was like a pop
and then you dance like and you're coordinated.
Speaker 5: And nobody played an instrument, nobody singing dancing performance cheesy Yeah, they.
Speaker 4: No know whate else to call it.
Speaker 5: I guess regular bands that with boys and they actually
like play musical.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got the guitar of the drama the same.
This is just like four or five guys all lined
up kind of similar.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which got me thinking about like the Temptations. The
Temptations was kind of the same thing, right, they say, Yeah.
Speaker 6: But I think that's what you're asking. Like to your point, though,
I think that what makes the distinct difference is that
like ones pop the other ones like R and B
or motown, and then like I think like the boy
band quote unquote craze is more of like a pop thing.
But yeah, I think like there's so many different other
things that could be a boy band.
Speaker 5: And if you're getting what I'm saying twisted a little bit,
like I'm a huge Temptation guy, let that be made
for TV. Temptations movie play. I will sit there for
four to five hours with commercials and watch it. It's incredible.
Have you seen it? Yeah, the Temptations movie. I remember
watching it when it was like crank what was brand new,
like the first time that it aired on v H
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Speaker 3: Daniel Basham, you're right, one Direction, that's that's new age
boy band.
Speaker 4: But you're right.
Speaker 6: I was a direction when I was in high that's
what they're called. Yeah, So when Zane left the band,
it was one of those like remember where you are?
It's like Zaye left the band when I was in
algebra my junior year of high school.
Speaker 5: She failed to focus.
Speaker 6: Uh so I was like full on one Direction. But
I just felt like it was I mean, it's too
recent for me to play it. I feel like.
Speaker 4: My wife sent me five. I said five. I'm a
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Speaker 3: I said five. I don't know what you're talking about.
You keep saying it. I'm just gonna act like I
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Speaker 4: But that's not what we were going for. Break with that.
Speaker 3: Different that is five pares? Are you talking about like
George slam does the name of the song. The way
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Speaker 5: Let's play it? Can you play right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Hey, never heard this?
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Speaker 4: Okay, I have never heard this one, but you know
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Speaker 5: A little too want to get into it. You're right.
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Speaker 3: Told you and the f in five was like the
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Speaker 6: I like this music video too, lots of baggy jeans.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to get to that. I want them
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Speaker 4: I've never heard this one. All right, here we goes.
Speaker 3: This was definitely like a Disney movie basketball situation, no doubt.
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Speaker 4: No, I don't know about that one. I don't know
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