Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. The former CEO of Abercrombie and
Speaker 1: Fitch and two associates are expected to be a rain
Speaker 1: this afternoon on Long Island on those federal sex trafficking charges.
Speaker 1: Prosecutors accuse Michael Jeffries and two others of using their money,
Speaker 1: power influence to prey on young boys for their own
Speaker 1: sexual gratification. They held sex events, according to the prosecutors
Speaker 1: all over the world. Jeffries and at least one associate
Speaker 1: will be in federal court this afternoon. A third is
Speaker 1: being transported from Florida to New York.
Speaker 2: The campaign stops in Texas today. Former President Trump is
Speaker 2: in Austin. He's going to be talking the border. He's
Speaker 2: going to be talking with Joe Rogan, Kamala Harris, the
Speaker 2: Vice president is in Houston. She'll be talking about abortion
Speaker 2: apparently and taking the stage with Beyonce and Willie Nelson.
Speaker 2: The latest and apparently final New York Times Siena College
Speaker 2: pool for this election shows that they're in a dead heat.
Speaker 3: Forty eight forty eight.
Speaker 1: That's the best funded poll. I believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets good.
Speaker 2: It gets good reviews, shall we say from pole watchers.
Speaker 2: The results are now, obviously less than two weeks before
Speaker 2: the election. In recent elections, Democrats have had an edge
Speaker 2: in the popular vote even when they have lost the
Speaker 2: Electoral College and the White House.
Speaker 3: Therefore, so you could argue that a.
Speaker 2: Forty eight to forty eight tie in the popular vote
Speaker 2: would be an advantage for Trump going into November fifth.
Speaker 1: We are spread pretty thin here in Los Angeles today.
Speaker 1: We have what they call a heightened security atmosphere as
Speaker 1: we are host of several high profile sporting events. Really
Speaker 1: started last night with Thursday Night football, and hey, you're
Speaker 1: a Rams fan. The Rams are back right at those
Speaker 1: receivers back Matt Stafford looks lights out, able to knock
Speaker 1: off the Vikings and just pick apart that defense.
Speaker 3: Justin. Jefferson was very angry last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand why so large crowds expected for the
Speaker 1: lakers second home game of the season at Crypto dot
Speaker 1: Com Arena. Usc football takes on Rutgers at the Coliseum.
Speaker 1: You've got the East LA Big High school football game
Speaker 1: with Garfield and Roosevelt halftime concert by Black Eyed Peas
Speaker 1: by the way.
Speaker 3: At so Far Yeah, at the high school football game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then of course the biggest one game one
Speaker 1: of the World Series at Dodger Stadium. Mayor Karen bassaid
Speaker 1: that she activated the city's emergency Response center to ensure
Speaker 1: a coordinated effort.
Speaker 2: I did like watching some of that news conference that
Speaker 2: she did yesterday from City Hall, just because she was
Speaker 2: talking about how she's got it, she knows this is coming,
Speaker 2: She's got to do this sort of a thing. But
Speaker 2: she said, right after they won the championship Series over
Speaker 2: the Mets, she immediately called for this to be set up,
Speaker 2: knowing that this was going to be a big day
Speaker 2: in LA just because of the everything else that was
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 3: So they say, if you're headed to the World Series.
Speaker 2: Pack your patients and dress warmly, but also bring a sweater.
Speaker 2: Metro's Dodger Stadium Express ferries fans up to the ballpark
Speaker 2: from Union Station and from the Harbor Gateway transit Center.
Speaker 2: They said you can get past all of the car
Speaker 2: traffic on sud Set thanks to their own dedicated laye there.
Speaker 2: The service also runs after the game.
Speaker 1: That sounds nice. There's some live traffic noise.
Speaker 3: Sounds like traffic.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's gonna be a lot of honking. Speaking of honks,
Speaker 1: So did you see the picture. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is just the digital LA Times story on this event,
Speaker 1: this mass security event or security test pre Olympic security test,
Speaker 1: but the picture that they chose to print, at least
Speaker 1: on the print edition of the story is from Dodger
Speaker 1: Stadium in twenty twenty I'm assuming or twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Everyone's wearing masks and it's a Giants game. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's this odd picture of the ground of just like
Speaker 1: an officer standing outside of one of the gates of
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium and everyone's in masks and it's Giants fans.
Speaker 1: Why would you ever choose this picture to go along
Speaker 1: with this story?
Speaker 2: Do you think the people who are writing the stories
Speaker 2: at the LA Times are big Dodgers fans outside of
Speaker 2: the guys from.
Speaker 3: The sports past.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to be a big Dodger fan.
Speaker 1: I think you just have to have something bigger than
Speaker 1: a brain stem to not choose this picture.
Speaker 2: I will say this, I know a lot of people
Speaker 2: who are not sports fans. I mean, couldn't tell you
Speaker 2: the first thing about sports, and that it's the kind
Speaker 2: of picture that they would choose.
Speaker 1: Okay. Also, half of this article is about the altercations
Speaker 1: at Dodgers games. Brian Stowe is mentioned, Okay, several fights.
Speaker 1: Half the story three pages is about the security at
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium. If I'm paying fifteen hundred dollars for my
Speaker 1: World Series ticket, I'm not gonna get wasted off twenty
Speaker 1: five dollars beers and get into a fight. That's not
Speaker 1: what this crowd is. When they say pre Olympic security tests,
Speaker 1: they mean security like for a UTA bomber or what
Speaker 1: have you, not a drunken guy from East LA who's
Speaker 1: gonna pick a fight with a Yankees fight. It could
Speaker 1: be Sonart, it could be any of these.
Speaker 3: What if it's Manhattan Beach, That's.
Speaker 1: Not what it is. Actually, that probably is what it is.
Speaker 4: Hey, Gary Channon, love you guys.
Speaker 5: You guys are awesome.
Speaker 6: Go Dodgers.
Speaker 7: Got to start off with that.
Speaker 4: But this is SoSE from Lakewood.
Speaker 2: I just want to say that I'm on the one
Speaker 2: ten freeway at the transition of the ninety one, heading
Speaker 2: towards downtown.
Speaker 3: LA, and it's already bumper to bumper.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm probably doing two.
Speaker 6: Miles an hour two Most of the time my foot's
Speaker 6: on the break.
Speaker 3: I hope everybody gets to their destination safely.
Speaker 6: Go Dodgers and let me guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you, go blue out today. Let us know about
Speaker 1: your traffic situation today, and are you brave enough to
Speaker 1: drive a stick in traffic? I miss a manual transmission too.
Speaker 1: I have read an article I think it was in
Speaker 1: The Atlantic this week, and I almost put it in
Speaker 1: the show at some point, but then I realized that
Speaker 1: this is my own personal bugaboo. It's called or. The
Speaker 1: headline was the death of parallel parking, and like I
Speaker 1: always thought that was like one of the major things
Speaker 1: you need to know how to parallel park. And it's
Speaker 1: growing up in the city and stuff like that, driving
Speaker 1: a stick on hills and stuff like that. Parallel parking.
Speaker 1: These are things that are going away.
Speaker 3: It's why we're softening.
Speaker 1: That's why we're softening. It's the automatic transmission. Real Americans
Speaker 1: know how to parallel park right stiction and roll down
Speaker 1: their window okay with the crank easy.
Speaker 2: Presidential elections get plenty of people upset. This may be
Speaker 2: one of the most nerve wracking elections we've seen in
Speaker 2: a very long time. More than sixty percent of Americans
Speaker 2: in a new poll say that their mental health has
Speaker 2: been slightly, moderately or significantly impacted by the upcoming election.
Speaker 2: Forty six percent say they have anxiety, thirty seven percent
Speaker 2: say they're stressed out, thirty one percent say they experience fear,
Speaker 2: and they think about the upcoming election.
Speaker 1: I feel all of those things when it comes to
Speaker 1: the fact that Tua is going to start for Miami
Speaker 1: this Weekend's.
Speaker 3: That will generate tensiinge.
Speaker 1: And tension, and is what I feel. Two has been
Speaker 1: cleared to play against the Cardinals on Sunday, first start
Speaker 1: since being concussed in Week two, that terrifying concussion that
Speaker 1: we saw. They say he has met with numerous medical
Speaker 1: experts who deemed it safe for him to play football again.
Speaker 1: I say he was examined yesterday by an independent neurological consultant.
Speaker 3: Doctor Nick Riviera from The Simpsons.
Speaker 1: It was probably one of those It's like an expert
Speaker 1: witnesses at a trial. You know, you pay him enough,
Speaker 1: they'll tell you whatever you want to hear. There is
Speaker 1: a an awful story out of Washington State you may
Speaker 1: remember we talked about it earlier. A fifteen year old
Speaker 1: boy charged with the murder of his parents and three
Speaker 1: of his siblings this week in the area called Falls City.
Speaker 1: It's east of Seattle as you head towards say snow
Speaker 1: Qualmy Pass. It's outpasted Issaquah, very nice, mostly rural setting,
Speaker 1: and they live on this place called Lake Alice with
Speaker 1: you know, multi million dollar homes.
Speaker 2: Their house was beautiful. I think dad was an engineer,
Speaker 2: Mom was a nurse. Prosecutor said that this fifteen year
Speaker 2: old kid called nine one one at about five in
Speaker 2: the morning and said that his younger thirteen year old
Speaker 2: brother had killed the family and himself because the thirteen
Speaker 2: year old was caught looking at pornography.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: There were other little kids like seven, I believe, and nine.
Speaker 3: But an eleven year.
Speaker 2: Old sister was shot twice, survived, was able to escape
Speaker 2: the house, and at about the same time that the
Speaker 2: fifteen year old called nine one one to lie about
Speaker 2: what happened, the eleven year old had made it to
Speaker 2: a neighbor's house, and the neighbor was able to call
Speaker 2: nine one one and explain what happened.
Speaker 1: What a horrific story. It's all the way around.
Speaker 2: For some reason, the fifteen year old also had to
Speaker 2: be told by the judge that they he could not
Speaker 2: have contact with his little sister, which I don't know
Speaker 2: if that was just a common thing, but that became
Speaker 2: one of the headlines that came out of that story
Speaker 2: that the judge told him specifically not to contact his sisters.
Speaker 1: They say that with all of those.
Speaker 3: That would make sense, And what kind of contact would
Speaker 3: he have. I mean, he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: In and he's a psychopath. Yeah, I mean to be
Speaker 1: fifteen and come up with that story and slaughter your
Speaker 1: family like that.
Speaker 2: The eleven year old said they had always had weapons
Speaker 2: in the home and they were very careful with them,
Speaker 2: that they all knew how to shoot, but that the
Speaker 2: fifteen year old was the only one of the kids
Speaker 2: who had the combination to the gun safe to get
Speaker 2: access to them.
Speaker 1: Well, that is wild, is an awful story. Well, we
Speaker 1: saw this hail Mary being launched for quite some time.
Speaker 1: George Gascone said it himself, the habeas petition did not
Speaker 1: need to be dealt with until late November, but you
Speaker 1: know what happens before late November.
Speaker 3: November fifth comes to November.
Speaker 1: Fifth comes in early November, and he wanted to milk
Speaker 1: the publicity cycle of this thing leading up to the election,
Speaker 1: and so he decided to play politics with two spoiled,
Speaker 1: entitled kids who killed their parents in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 4: I believe that they have paid their debt to society,
Speaker 4: and the system provides a vehicle for their case to
Speaker 4: be reviewed.
Speaker 3: By a parole bar and the parole.
Speaker 4: Concurs with my assessment, and it will be their decision.
Speaker 4: They will be released accordingly.
Speaker 1: Of course, nobody, somebody who has never tried a case
Speaker 1: does not understand the importance of evidence.
Speaker 2: Well, there's that to your point about this being clearly
Speaker 2: a re election tool, because he's being outraised by Nathan
Speaker 2: Hockman somewhere like ten to one in terms of the
Speaker 2: money falling into their campaign coffers. He was asked by
Speaker 2: a reporter yesterday at this news conference about re election
Speaker 2: and Gascon loses his mind in the middle of this question.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that the manslaughter would have been the
Speaker 4: appropriate charge. Give him the premeditation that was involved in
Speaker 4: the murders. I believe that this were clearly murders that
Speaker 4: were premeditated now the motivation, that's where you know, the
Speaker 4: differences of opinion come up. But I don't think it
Speaker 4: will be appropriate to all the way down to man'slaughter,
Speaker 4: for every election. Would you please stop. I am not
Speaker 4: going to talk about reelection. Okay, I will talk later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you're interrupted, sir.
Speaker 1: So my god, not protest too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a staff member behind him, one of the
Speaker 2: DA's office workers that was there, and tells the reporter,
Speaker 2: I wish I knew who it was. Something like that's
Speaker 2: in the inappropriate question. That is entirely appropriate.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: The timing of this is.
Speaker 2: So us it's it's pretty ridiculous. The last piece is
Speaker 2: sound from Gascoon.
Speaker 4: I have to tell you that, after a very careful
Speaker 4: review of all the arguments that were made for people
Speaker 4: on both sides of this equation, I came to a
Speaker 4: place where I believe that under the law, resentencing is appropriate,
Speaker 4: and I am going to recommend that to a court tomorrow.
Speaker 1: There's all of these conspiracy theorists that are getting so
Speaker 1: much attention now because of the way the podcast game works.
Speaker 1: Let's pick a case dissected and come up with a
Speaker 1: different alternative ending and then sell you on that how
Speaker 1: to do with the evidence, forget about all the evidence.
Speaker 1: I want to pedal my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: And some of them are very entertaining. Sure I leave
Speaker 2: it at that, but it is entertainment. The idea then
Speaker 2: that you And again not to say that some of
Speaker 2: these podcasts aren't well researched, but you as a podcaster,
Speaker 2: doing better research than.
Speaker 1: Investigators, detectives, prosecutors, jurors that came to their own conclusions.
Speaker 2: But there are cases listen and you bring that up,
Speaker 2: and I think of your own backyard podcast, the one
Speaker 2: about the Kristen Smart murder in.
Speaker 1: Sam Paul Flora is when it happens.
Speaker 2: Which is weird, and I don't know why. I mean,
Speaker 2: it doesn't You're right, it doesn't change. Most of the
Speaker 2: detectives and investigators that were involved in that case had
Speaker 2: their belief that it was Paul Flora's all along and
Speaker 2: that his dad probably helped him. But they couldn't put
Speaker 2: those pieces together. And not that the podcast put those
Speaker 2: pieces together. It just kind of filled in some of
Speaker 2: the low spots.
Speaker 1: For Sometimes more attention to cold cases is a good
Speaker 1: thing if you stick to the evidence, right. There's so
Speaker 1: many of these that do not stick to the evidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is one of those cases. Now, Kitty
Speaker 2: Menendez was not.
Speaker 1: The most likely thing. Oukham's razor right, it's the most
Speaker 1: likely thing. There was mountains of evidence that these kids
Speaker 1: were spoiled brats and that the gravy train was was done.
Speaker 1: The parents were going to cut them off and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to live their lavish lifestyle. They didn't
Speaker 1: want to go to work. They were flunkies at school
Speaker 1: and at jobs, and they had no path towards living
Speaker 1: the lifestyle that they were living and that they wanted,
Speaker 1: and they were frustrated, and they it was more than premeditated.
Speaker 1: It was months. This molestation story is so far fetched
Speaker 1: and so not the likeliest thing that happened. The fact
Speaker 1: that a father would molest his own sons for decades
Speaker 1: is insanity.
Speaker 2: The person I think that's got the most attention is
Speaker 2: Kitty Menendez's brother. He has not been speaking to the media,
Speaker 2: but his attorney has. Her name is Kathy Katie, and
Speaker 2: she said, among other things, this is exactly what George
Speaker 2: Gascon does and what his pattern has been, which is
Speaker 2: ignoring the victims of crime.
Speaker 8: Despite repeated requests to mister Gascon that he meet with
Speaker 8: my client so that he could hear both sides of
Speaker 8: the argument, he has never done so. He has never
Speaker 8: responded to mister Anderson. He has not listened to mister Anderson.
Speaker 8: He has been ignoring mister Anderson, and that, unfortunately, is
Speaker 8: what he does whenever he doesn't like people who have
Speaker 8: opinions who go against him.
Speaker 1: And to our point at last hour, you have to
Speaker 1: have the conversation, even if you don't believe in what
Speaker 1: the other person's saying, be open to the conversation.
Speaker 3: She was on Fox this morning.
Speaker 8: I think that the polls right now show him being
Speaker 8: down thirty points, so it's pretty clear that he will lose.
Speaker 8: But it's also clear he hasn't gotten any money. He
Speaker 8: hasn't been able to raise any money, so holding press
Speaker 8: conferences are essentially free media for him to get his
Speaker 8: face in front of the viewers. And I think that
Speaker 8: it was a last minute grab on his part to
Speaker 8: try to get his face in front of the viewers,
Speaker 8: remind people of who he is, try to show that
Speaker 8: he's whatever a sympathetic guy. I can't begin to get
Speaker 8: into his mind.
Speaker 3: It's uh, Kathy, I want to play it.
Speaker 1: Kathleen Katie is a retired LA DA. She is somebody
Speaker 1: who works pro bono for victims. She's the one who
Speaker 1: will go to these parole hearings when Gascon came in
Speaker 1: and told his attorneys they were no longer able to
Speaker 1: go to parole hearings to fight to keep people in prison,
Speaker 1: no longer able to go to those hearings and say,
Speaker 1: these are the facts of the case. This woman next
Speaker 1: to me, her son was murdered, and this is what happened,
Speaker 1: and that's why we need to keep this murderer behind bars. Now,
Speaker 1: it's that very mother who has to go into these
Speaker 1: parole hearings and make the case for keeping her son's
Speaker 1: murderer in prison. Kathleen Katie is one of those people
Speaker 1: who has gone to these parole hearings to avoid that
Speaker 1: from happening. Because Gascone doesn't care about crime victims or
Speaker 1: their families.
Speaker 2: I remember, the key piece of evidence that Gascone is
Speaker 2: referring to when he talks about he wants to have
Speaker 2: these guys resentenced is this letter that one of the
Speaker 2: brothers allegedly wrote to a cousin describing abuse, described ongoing abuse, etc.
Speaker 2: The letter never appeared. The letter appeared during the first trials.
Speaker 2: The letter appeared in twenty fifteen. Right where did the
Speaker 2: letter come from? Well, and that's what she said earlier today.
Speaker 8: I have received a number of emails and information that
Speaker 8: would seem to indicate that the evidence that the Menendez
Speaker 8: brothers are trying to put forward now may not be true.
Speaker 3: That's all she says.
Speaker 2: I mean, but there's clearly something to be said about
Speaker 2: her having represented Kitty Menendez's brother and that of the
Speaker 2: family that believes these guys are guilty of sin.
Speaker 1: And also go back in history, do your own research.
Speaker 1: It's worth a google to find out the craze that
Speaker 1: was going on in the late eighties about kids being
Speaker 1: molested and abused. It was very in It was a
Speaker 1: very in craze and concern that was going on. The
Speaker 1: McMartin trial was one of the examples of this. And
Speaker 1: it's just all way too convenient that they were looking
Speaker 1: for a way to get away with murder and this
Speaker 1: is what they landed on.
Speaker 2: Earlier, we talked about this statement from jd.
Speaker 3: Vance.
Speaker 2: He was at a News Nation town hall last night
Speaker 2: with Chris Cuomo and was asked about what he believed
Speaker 2: was the biggest threat to democracy. He went on to
Speaker 2: say censorship, but added this line, which I thought was
Speaker 2: important for all of us.
Speaker 9: Don't cast aside family members in lifelong friendships. Politics is
Speaker 9: not worth it. And I think we follow that principle
Speaker 9: hill of the divide in this country.
Speaker 2: I was curious if this has happened to people. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: and if you don't have to tell me what side
Speaker 2: you're on or who your vote doesn't matter, but you
Speaker 2: just if there's a disagreement about politics that has upended
Speaker 2: relationships that you have, or just.
Speaker 1: Kept you from maybe reaching out and talking to a
Speaker 1: friend or a family member, especially this time of year
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the.
Speaker 2: Election, because you know politics is going to come up.
Speaker 2: You don't want to have that conversation. Exactly less than
Speaker 2: two weeks before election day, we are seeing the campaigns
Speaker 2: go through Texas.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 2: Vice President Harris is in Houston, former President Trump is
Speaker 2: in Austin. NBC News shows they're tracking shows almost thirty
Speaker 2: three million people have already voted in this election, either
Speaker 2: through mail in ballots or early in person voting. This
Speaker 2: story actually came out. There are two things that prompted
Speaker 2: me to think about this today. Number one was this
Speaker 2: study that came out that said over sixty percent of
Speaker 2: a man can say that this election has damaged their
Speaker 2: mental health to some degree. Forty six percent say they
Speaker 2: have feelings of anxiety, thirty seven percent say they're stressed out,
Speaker 2: thirty one percent experiencing fear. And this statement from jd
Speaker 2: Vance from yesterday in the town hall meeting that he
Speaker 2: was doing on News Nation, and we can't This is
Speaker 2: my most important advice.
Speaker 9: Whether you vote for me, whether you vote for Donald Trump,
Speaker 9: whether you vote for Kamala Harris, don't cast aside family
Speaker 9: members in lifelong friendships. Politics is not worth it. And
Speaker 9: I think we follow that principle will hill of the
Speaker 9: divide in this country.
Speaker 3: And we've we've heard it before.
Speaker 2: We've heard from other politicians, other people, from family members,
Speaker 2: from pastors, from friends, whatever. Do not let this be
Speaker 2: the thing that destroys a relationship with a family member
Speaker 2: or friend.
Speaker 5: Morre Gary and Shannon, I just felt like I wanted
Speaker 5: to say thank you for bringing this topic up because
Speaker 5: I am an independent conservative and my parents are blue
Speaker 5: card carrying Democrats and it has been really rough because
Speaker 5: a lot of what I am fighting for I believe
Speaker 5: for my kids, and I am clashing so much with them.
Speaker 5: So I appreciate the thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's not easy, but doesn't mean that you can't
Speaker 2: talk about politics. Just don't you remember where politics is
Speaker 2: supposed to fit in your world, right and your family's
Speaker 2: supposed to be more important than that.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, and it does come up, like
Speaker 1: my mom is a very strong Democrat, always husband, and
Speaker 1: if I say anything that is not favorable, well, it's
Speaker 1: a sense of like because I am also like that him.
Speaker 1: I am more of a moderate independent conservative if I
Speaker 1: had to pick. But it's it gets frustrating when the
Speaker 1: like if Kama for instance, the instance I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: is Kamala did one of her word salad moments and
Speaker 1: it was on the news or what have you, and
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I want to hear what
Speaker 1: she has to say, and I said something like, she's
Speaker 1: just gonna speak in a word salad. Oh, Shannon, you
Speaker 1: don't know it. You don't know that. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I do, because I'm watching and you know, and it's
Speaker 1: just like those little ten moments and it's like, so
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't say anything anymore.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that I'm going to talk to my
Speaker 1: mother less. It's just I'm not going to bring anything up.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to even say the words Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anything. I see the landmines.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Gary, really, really you don't think this has occurred?
Speaker 3: No, I think it does.
Speaker 6: Look at today the world everyone's divided. You don't think
Speaker 6: this has occurred at home? I do you if you
Speaker 6: can come up with some better material, work out something.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the milk.
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to my own parents in weeks, maybe months,
Speaker 2: because of the political rhetoric that goes on every.
Speaker 3: Time in our house. Interesting they cannot stop.
Speaker 2: I've asked them to talk about other things, family things, memories.
Speaker 3: No always political, and I get that too.
Speaker 2: Even if there are family members or friends that I
Speaker 2: agree with politically, I don't.
Speaker 1: Want to talk about it. I'm the same way. I mean,
Speaker 1: And I wonder if it's because we have to talk
Speaker 1: about it here. I mean, I guess we don't have to,
Speaker 1: but it is something that's going on, and I wonder
Speaker 1: if I've just I'm talked out of it by the
Speaker 1: time I go home or I live my real life.
Speaker 7: Hi, Garyan Shannon, I'm not going to be able to
Speaker 7: go back to Iowa for my sister's eighty fifth birthday
Speaker 7: due to our differences in the election. I am going
Speaker 7: to go after the election. I thought I would be
Speaker 7: able to to go, but I just realized it would
Speaker 7: cause way too much stress for the both of us.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's I guess that's good that you
Speaker 2: recognize it.
Speaker 3: It's just sad that that's the way it's got to be.
Speaker 3: The relationship with my sudden law.
Speaker 1: That hasn't changed. But about five years ago, during the last.
Speaker 3: Presidential election, we declined a.
Speaker 1: Our fiftieth anniversary free trip to Hawaii for a week
Speaker 1: because we didn't want to spend a week with our
Speaker 1: sudden law. This makes me so sad.
Speaker 3: With three days about as much as we can take.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's anybody though, right, Like that's par six aside.
Speaker 2: There is a time limit, right, there is a timeline.
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