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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. The former CEO of Abercrombie and

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<v Speaker 1>Fitch and two associates are expected to be a rain

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<v Speaker 1>this afternoon on Long Island on those federal sex trafficking charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Prosecutors accuse Michael Jeffries and two others of using their money,

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<v Speaker 1>power influence to prey on young boys for their own

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<v Speaker 1>sexual gratification. They held sex events, according to the prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world. Jeffries and at least one associate

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<v Speaker 1>will be in federal court this afternoon. A third is

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<v Speaker 1>being transported from Florida to New York.

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<v Speaker 2>The campaign stops in Texas today. Former President Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>in Austin. He's going to be talking the border. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be talking with Joe Rogan, Kamala Harris, the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice president is in Houston. She'll be talking about abortion

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<v Speaker 2>apparently and taking the stage with Beyonce and Willie Nelson.

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<v Speaker 2>The latest and apparently final New York Times Siena College

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<v Speaker 2>pool for this election shows that they're in a dead heat.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty eight forty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best funded poll. I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it gets good.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets good reviews, shall we say from pole watchers.

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<v Speaker 2>The results are now, obviously less than two weeks before

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<v Speaker 2>the election. In recent elections, Democrats have had an edge

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<v Speaker 2>in the popular vote even when they have lost the

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<v Speaker 2>Electoral College and the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>Therefore, so you could argue that a.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty eight to forty eight tie in the popular vote

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<v Speaker 2>would be an advantage for Trump going into November fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>We are spread pretty thin here in Los Angeles today.

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<v Speaker 1>We have what they call a heightened security atmosphere as

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<v Speaker 1>we are host of several high profile sporting events. Really

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<v Speaker 1>started last night with Thursday Night football, and hey, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Rams fan. The Rams are back right at those

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<v Speaker 1>receivers back Matt Stafford looks lights out, able to knock

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<v Speaker 1>off the Vikings and just pick apart that defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Justin. Jefferson was very angry last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I understand why so large crowds expected for the

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<v Speaker 1>lakers second home game of the season at Crypto dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com Arena. Usc football takes on Rutgers at the Coliseum.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the East LA Big High school football game

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<v Speaker 1>with Garfield and Roosevelt halftime concert by Black Eyed Peas

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<v Speaker 1>by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>At so Far Yeah, at the high school football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then of course the biggest one game one

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<v Speaker 1>of the World Series at Dodger Stadium. Mayor Karen bassaid

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<v Speaker 1>that she activated the city's emergency Response center to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>a coordinated effort.

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<v Speaker 2>I did like watching some of that news conference that

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<v Speaker 2>she did yesterday from City Hall, just because she was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how she's got it, she knows this is coming,

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<v Speaker 2>She's got to do this sort of a thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>she said, right after they won the championship Series over

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<v Speaker 2>the Mets, she immediately called for this to be set up,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that this was going to be a big day

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<v Speaker 2>in LA just because of the everything else that was

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<v Speaker 3>So they say, if you're headed to the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>Pack your patients and dress warmly, but also bring a sweater.

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<v Speaker 2>Metro's Dodger Stadium Express ferries fans up to the ballpark

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<v Speaker 2>from Union Station and from the Harbor Gateway transit Center.

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<v Speaker 2>They said you can get past all of the car

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<v Speaker 2>traffic on sud Set thanks to their own dedicated laye there.

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<v Speaker 2>The service also runs after the game.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds nice. There's some live traffic noise.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's gonna be a lot of honking. Speaking of honks,

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<v Speaker 1>So did you see the picture. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this is just the digital LA Times story on this event,

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<v Speaker 1>this mass security event or security test pre Olympic security test,

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<v Speaker 1>but the picture that they chose to print, at least

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<v Speaker 1>on the print edition of the story is from Dodger

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium in twenty twenty I'm assuming or twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's wearing masks and it's a Giants game. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's this odd picture of the ground of just like

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<v Speaker 1>Dodger Stadium and everyone's in masks and it's Giants fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you ever choose this picture to go along

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the people who are writing the stories

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<v Speaker 2>at the LA Times are big Dodgers fans outside of

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<v Speaker 3>The sports past.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to be a big Dodger fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just have to have something bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this, I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>who are not sports fans. I mean, couldn't tell you

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing about sports, and that it's the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of picture that they would choose.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Also, half of this article is about the altercations

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<v Speaker 1>at Dodgers games. Brian Stowe is mentioned, Okay, several fights.

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<v Speaker 1>Half the story three pages is about the security at

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<v Speaker 1>Dodger Stadium. If I'm paying fifteen hundred dollars for my

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<v Speaker 1>World Series ticket, I'm not gonna get wasted off twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars beers and get into a fight. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>what this crowd is. When they say pre Olympic security tests,

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<v Speaker 1>they mean security like for a UTA bomber or what

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<v Speaker 1>have you, not a drunken guy from East LA who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pick a fight with a Yankees fight. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be Sonart, it could be any of these.

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<v Speaker 3>What if it's Manhattan Beach, That's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not what it is. Actually, that probably is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Gary Channon, love you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are awesome.

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<v Speaker 6>Go Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 7>Got to start off with that.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is SoSE from Lakewood.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say that I'm on the one

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<v Speaker 2>ten freeway at the transition of the ninety one, heading

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<v Speaker 3>LA, and it's already bumper to bumper.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm probably doing two.

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<v Speaker 6>Miles an hour two Most of the time my foot's

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<v Speaker 6>on the break.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope everybody gets to their destination safely.

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<v Speaker 6>Go Dodgers and let me guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, go blue out today. Let us know about

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<v Speaker 1>your traffic situation today, and are you brave enough to

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<v Speaker 1>drive a stick in traffic? I miss a manual transmission too.

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<v Speaker 1>I have read an article I think it was in

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<v Speaker 1>The Atlantic this week, and I almost put it in

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<v Speaker 1>the show at some point, but then I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>this is my own personal bugaboo. It's called or. The

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<v Speaker 1>headline was the death of parallel parking, and like I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought that was like one of the major things

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know how to parallel park. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in the city and stuff like that, driving

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<v Speaker 1>a stick on hills and stuff like that. Parallel parking.

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<v Speaker 1>These are things that are going away.

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<v Speaker 3>It's why we're softening.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we're softening. It's the automatic transmission. Real Americans

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<v Speaker 1>know how to parallel park right stiction and roll down

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<v Speaker 2>Presidential elections get plenty of people upset. This may be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most nerve wracking elections we've seen in

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<v Speaker 2>a very long time. More than sixty percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 2>in a new poll say that their mental health has

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<v Speaker 2>been slightly, moderately or significantly impacted by the upcoming election.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty six percent say they have anxiety, thirty seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>say they're stressed out, thirty one percent say they experience fear,

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<v Speaker 2>and they think about the upcoming election.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel all of those things when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Tua is going to start for Miami

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<v Speaker 1>this Weekend's.

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<v Speaker 3>That will generate tensiinge.

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<v Speaker 1>And tension, and is what I feel. Two has been

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<v Speaker 1>cleared to play against the Cardinals on Sunday, first start

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<v Speaker 1>since being concussed in Week two, that terrifying concussion that

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<v Speaker 1>we saw. They say he has met with numerous medical

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<v Speaker 1>experts who deemed it safe for him to play football again.

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<v Speaker 1>I say he was examined yesterday by an independent neurological consultant.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Nick Riviera from The Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably one of those It's like an expert

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses at a trial. You know, you pay him enough,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll tell you whatever you want to hear. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a an awful story out of Washington State you may

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<v Speaker 1>remember we talked about it earlier. A fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>of his siblings this week in the area called Falls City.

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<v Speaker 1>It's east of Seattle as you head towards say snow

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<v Speaker 1>Qualmy Pass. It's outpasted Issaquah, very nice, mostly rural setting,

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<v Speaker 2>Their house was beautiful. I think dad was an engineer,

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<v Speaker 2>Mom was a nurse. Prosecutor said that this fifteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old kid called nine one one at about five in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning and said that his younger thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>brother had killed the family and himself because the thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old was caught looking at pornography.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>There were other little kids like seven, I believe, and nine.

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<v Speaker 3>But an eleven year.

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<v Speaker 2>Old sister was shot twice, survived, was able to escape

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<v Speaker 2>the house, and at about the same time that the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen year old called nine one one to lie about

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, the eleven year old had made it to

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<v Speaker 2>a neighbor's house, and the neighbor was able to call

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<v Speaker 2>nine one one and explain what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>What a horrific story. It's all the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, the fifteen year old also had to

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<v Speaker 2>be told by the judge that they he could not

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<v Speaker 2>have contact with his little sister, which I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that was just a common thing, but that became

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<v Speaker 2>one of the headlines that came out of that story

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<v Speaker 2>that the judge told him specifically not to contact his sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that with all of those.

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<v Speaker 3>That would make sense, And what kind of contact would

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<v Speaker 3>he have. I mean, he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>In and he's a psychopath. Yeah, I mean to be

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and come up with that story and slaughter your

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<v Speaker 2>The eleven year old said they had always had weapons

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<v Speaker 2>in the home and they were very careful with them,

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<v Speaker 2>that they all knew how to shoot, but that the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen year old was the only one of the kids

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<v Speaker 2>who had the combination to the gun safe to get

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<v Speaker 2>access to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that is wild, is an awful story. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw this hail Mary being launched for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>George Gascone said it himself, the habeas petition did not

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<v Speaker 1>need to be dealt with until late November, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what happens before late November.

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<v Speaker 3>November fifth comes to November.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth comes in early November, and he wanted to milk

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<v Speaker 1>the publicity cycle of this thing leading up to the election,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he decided to play politics with two spoiled,

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<v Speaker 1>entitled kids who killed their parents in nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that they have paid their debt to society,

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<v Speaker 4>and the system provides a vehicle for their case to

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<v Speaker 4>be reviewed.

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<v Speaker 3>By a parole bar and the parole.

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<v Speaker 4>Concurs with my assessment, and it will be their decision.

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<v Speaker 4>They will be released accordingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, nobody, somebody who has never tried a case

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<v Speaker 2>Hockman somewhere like ten to one in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>and Gascon loses his mind in the middle of this question.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe that the manslaughter would have been the

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<v Speaker 4>were premeditated now the motivation, that's where you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>differences of opinion come up. But I don't think it

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<v Speaker 4>will be appropriate to all the way down to man'slaughter,

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<v Speaker 4>for every election. Would you please stop. I am not

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<v Speaker 4>going to talk about reelection. Okay, I will talk later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So my god, not protest too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a staff member behind him, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>DA's office workers that was there, and tells the reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I knew who it was. Something like that's

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<v Speaker 1>The timing of this is.

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<v Speaker 2>So us it's it's pretty ridiculous. The last piece is

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<v Speaker 4>I have to tell you that, after a very careful

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<v Speaker 4>review of all the arguments that were made for people

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<v Speaker 4>place where I believe that under the law, resentencing is appropriate,

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<v Speaker 4>and I am going to recommend that to a court tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all of these conspiracy theorists that are getting so

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<v Speaker 1>much attention now because of the way the podcast game works.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pick a case dissected and come up with a

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the evidence, forget about all the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of them are very entertaining. Sure I leave

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<v Speaker 2>it at that, but it is entertainment. The idea then

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<v Speaker 2>that you And again not to say that some of

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<v Speaker 2>these podcasts aren't well researched, but you as a podcaster,

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<v Speaker 2>doing better research than.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators, detectives, prosecutors, jurors that came to their own conclusions.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are cases listen and you bring that up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think of your own backyard podcast, the one

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<v Speaker 2>about the Kristen Smart murder in.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Paul Flora is when it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is weird, and I don't know why. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't You're right, it doesn't change. Most of the

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<v Speaker 2>detectives and investigators that were involved in that case had

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<v Speaker 2>their belief that it was Paul Flora's all along and

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<v Speaker 2>that his dad probably helped him. But they couldn't put

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<v Speaker 2>those pieces together. And not that the podcast put those

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<v Speaker 1>For Sometimes more attention to cold cases is a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing if you stick to the evidence, right. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many of these that do not stick to the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is one of those cases. Now, Kitty

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<v Speaker 2>Menendez was not.

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<v Speaker 1>The most likely thing. Oukham's razor right, it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>likely thing. There was mountains of evidence that these kids

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<v Speaker 1>were spoiled brats and that the gravy train was was done.

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<v Speaker 1>The parents were going to cut them off and they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to live their lavish lifestyle. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to work. They were flunkies at school

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<v Speaker 1>and at jobs, and they had no path towards living

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<v Speaker 1>the lifestyle that they were living and that they wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were frustrated, and they it was more than premeditated.

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<v Speaker 1>It was months. This molestation story is so far fetched

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<v Speaker 1>and so not the likeliest thing that happened. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that a father would molest his own sons for decades

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<v Speaker 2>The person I think that's got the most attention is

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<v Speaker 2>Kitty Menendez's brother. He has not been speaking to the media,

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<v Speaker 2>but his attorney has. Her name is Kathy Katie, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said, among other things, this is exactly what George

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<v Speaker 2>ignoring the victims of crime.

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<v Speaker 8>Despite repeated requests to mister Gascon that he meet with

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<v Speaker 8>my client so that he could hear both sides of

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<v Speaker 8>the argument, he has never done so. He has never

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<v Speaker 8>responded to mister Anderson. He has not listened to mister Anderson.

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<v Speaker 8>He has been ignoring mister Anderson, and that, unfortunately, is

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<v Speaker 8>what he does whenever he doesn't like people who have

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<v Speaker 1>And to our point at last hour, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have the conversation, even if you don't believe in what

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<v Speaker 1>the other person's saying, be open to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>She was on Fox this morning.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that the polls right now show him being

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<v Speaker 8>down thirty points, so it's pretty clear that he will lose.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's also clear he hasn't gotten any money. He

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<v Speaker 8>hasn't been able to raise any money, so holding press

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<v Speaker 8>conferences are essentially free media for him to get his

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<v Speaker 8>face in front of the viewers. And I think that

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<v Speaker 8>it was a last minute grab on his part to

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<v Speaker 8>try to get his face in front of the viewers,

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<v Speaker 8>remind people of who he is, try to show that

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<v Speaker 8>he's whatever a sympathetic guy. I can't begin to get

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<v Speaker 8>into his mind.

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<v Speaker 3>It's uh, Kathy, I want to play it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kathleen Katie is a retired LA DA. She is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who works pro bono for victims. She's the one who

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<v Speaker 1>will go to these parole hearings when Gascon came in

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<v Speaker 1>and told his attorneys they were no longer able to

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<v Speaker 1>go to parole hearings to fight to keep people in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>no longer able to go to those hearings and say,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the facts of the case. This woman next

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<v Speaker 1>to me, her son was murdered, and this is what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why we need to keep this murderer behind bars. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that very mother who has to go into these

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<v Speaker 1>parole hearings and make the case for keeping her son's

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<v Speaker 1>murderer in prison. Kathleen Katie is one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>who has gone to these parole hearings to avoid that

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<v Speaker 1>from happening. Because Gascone doesn't care about crime victims or

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, the key piece of evidence that Gascone is

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<v Speaker 2>referring to when he talks about he wants to have

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<v Speaker 2>these guys resentenced is this letter that one of the

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<v Speaker 2>brothers allegedly wrote to a cousin describing abuse, described ongoing abuse, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>The letter never appeared. The letter appeared during the first trials.

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<v Speaker 2>The letter appeared in twenty fifteen. Right where did the

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<v Speaker 2>letter come from? Well, and that's what she said earlier today.

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<v Speaker 8>I have received a number of emails and information that

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<v Speaker 8>would seem to indicate that the evidence that the Menendez

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<v Speaker 8>brothers are trying to put forward now may not be true.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all she says.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but there's clearly something to be said about

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<v Speaker 2>her having represented Kitty Menendez's brother and that of the

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<v Speaker 2>family that believes these guys are guilty of sin.

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<v Speaker 1>And also go back in history, do your own research.

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<v Speaker 1>It's worth a google to find out the craze that

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<v Speaker 1>very in craze and concern that was going on. The

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<v Speaker 1>McMartin trial was one of the examples of this. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just all way too convenient that they were looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a way to get away with murder and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what they landed on.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier, we talked about this statement from jd.

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<v Speaker 3>Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>He was at a News Nation town hall last night

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<v Speaker 2>with Chris Cuomo and was asked about what he believed

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<v Speaker 2>say censorship, but added this line, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 2>important for all of us.

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<v Speaker 9>Don't cast aside family members in lifelong friendships. Politics is

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<v Speaker 9>not worth it. And I think we follow that principle

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<v Speaker 2>I was curious if this has happened to people. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you don't have to tell me what side

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<v Speaker 2>you're on or who your vote doesn't matter, but you

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<v Speaker 2>just if there's a disagreement about politics that has upended

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<v Speaker 2>relationships that you have, or just.

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<v Speaker 1>Kept you from maybe reaching out and talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>as we get closer to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Election, because you know politics is going to come up.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to have that conversation. Exactly less than

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks before election day, we are seeing the campaigns

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<v Speaker 2>go through Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Today.

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<v Speaker 2>Vice President Harris is in Houston, former President Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>in Austin. NBC News shows they're tracking shows almost thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three million people have already voted in this election, either

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<v Speaker 2>through mail in ballots or early in person voting. This

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<v Speaker 2>story actually came out. There are two things that prompted

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<v Speaker 2>me to think about this today. Number one was this

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<v Speaker 2>study that came out that said over sixty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>a man can say that this election has damaged their

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<v Speaker 2>have feelings of anxiety, thirty seven percent say they're stressed out,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one percent experiencing fear. And this statement from jd

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<v Speaker 2>Vance from yesterday in the town hall meeting that he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing on News Nation, and we can't This is

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<v Speaker 2>my most important advice.

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<v Speaker 9>Whether you vote for me, whether you vote for Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 9>whether you vote for Kamala Harris, don't cast aside family

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<v Speaker 9>members in lifelong friendships. Politics is not worth it. And

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<v Speaker 9>I think we follow that principle will hill of the

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<v Speaker 3>And we've we've heard it before.

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<v Speaker 2>We've heard from other politicians, other people, from family members,

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<v Speaker 2>from pastors, from friends, whatever. Do not let this be

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<v Speaker 5>Morre Gary and Shannon, I just felt like I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to say thank you for bringing this topic up because

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<v Speaker 5>I am an independent conservative and my parents are blue

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<v Speaker 5>card carrying Democrats and it has been really rough because

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<v Speaker 5>for my kids, and I am clashing so much with them.

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<v Speaker 5>So I appreciate the thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, it's not easy, but doesn't mean that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about politics. Just don't you remember where politics is

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to fit in your world, right and your family's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be more important than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, I mean, and it does come up, like

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<v Speaker 1>my mom is a very strong Democrat, always husband, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I say anything that is not favorable, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of like because I am also like that him.

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<v Speaker 1>I am more of a moderate independent conservative if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to pick. But it's it gets frustrating when the

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<v Speaker 1>like if Kama for instance, the instance I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>is Kamala did one of her word salad moments and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, I want to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna speak in a word salad. Oh, Shannon, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know it. You don't know that. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean that I'm going to talk to my

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<v Speaker 1>mother less. It's just I'm not going to bring anything up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to even say the words Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say anything. I see the landmines.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Gary, really, really you don't think this has occurred?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think it does.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at today the world everyone's divided. You don't think

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<v Speaker 6>this has occurred at home? I do you if you

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<v Speaker 6>can come up with some better material, work out something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's the milk.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't talked to my own parents in weeks, maybe months,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the political rhetoric that goes on every.

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<v Speaker 3>Time in our house. Interesting they cannot stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I've asked them to talk about other things, family things, memories.

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<v Speaker 3>No always political, and I get that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if there are family members or friends that I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with politically, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to talk about it. I'm the same way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if it's because we have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it here. I mean, I guess we don't have to,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is something that's going on, and I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if I've just I'm talked out of it by the

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<v Speaker 1>time I go home or I live my real life.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, Garyan Shannon, I'm not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 7>go back to Iowa for my sister's eighty fifth birthday

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<v Speaker 7>due to our differences in the election. I am going

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<v Speaker 7>to go after the election. I thought I would be

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<v Speaker 7>able to to go, but I just realized it would

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<v Speaker 7>cause way too much stress for the both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess that's I guess that's good that you

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<v Speaker 2>recognize it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just sad that that's the way it's got to be.

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<v Speaker 3>The relationship with my sudden law.

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<v Speaker 1>That hasn't changed. But about five years ago, during the last.

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<v Speaker 3>Presidential election, we declined a.

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<v Speaker 1>Our fiftieth anniversary free trip to Hawaii for a week

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<v Speaker 1>because we didn't want to spend a week with our

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<v Speaker 1>sudden law. This makes me so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>With three days about as much as we can take.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's anybody though, right, Like that's par six aside.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a time limit, right, there is a timeline.

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