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<v Speaker 1>All right, this segment right here is brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>by Rollertown beer Works, and it's gonna tie into the

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<v Speaker 1>whole segment we're doing here, Ben, because first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Rollertown beer Works is the brewery up there in Solina

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<v Speaker 1>that you and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Are partners in.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have two big things going on this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them ties into the topic that is

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<v Speaker 1>the lead story on every news channel. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it multiple times, and that is the Mavericks have traded

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<v Speaker 1>Luka Doncic. And there's a lot to think through, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is very obvious that the Metroplex is devastated by this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 1>Being objective here seeing reaction. Even if you, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a Maverick fan or basketball fan. Let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>only follow rugby and you're watching this, You're going, God,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone sure to love this Luca guy. It's the lead story,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the entire front page of the paper and

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<v Speaker 1>look at this. So everyone that listens to the show

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<v Speaker 1>knows how closely we feel or strongly we feel about

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<v Speaker 1>Luca and the MAVs and all this, But objectively, it's

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<v Speaker 1>far it's one of the biggest stories in the nation

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so shocking. So originally, you and I we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have what we call a sound doown game watching

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<v Speaker 1>party because the MAVs play the Celtics on Thursday, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do it at the brewery and turn the

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<v Speaker 1>sound down and commentate the game. What we've decided to

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<v Speaker 1>do with you, suitet listener is we're still gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>the game going on, and we'll tell you about what

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<v Speaker 1>that is in a second, but we're gonna invite everyone

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<v Speaker 1>out and we are just going to all share our

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<v Speaker 1>feelings together. We're gonna drink some cold, delicious beer. We

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<v Speaker 1>have nineteen fresh local beers on tap. Cheddar Wheel is

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<v Speaker 1>a great food truck. It's gonna be there. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna turn it into like a therapy session, right

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<v Speaker 1>like a public forum convent. If you want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>us we're wrong, if you want us to hug you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>To drink beer.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna have the game on the Celtic and

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<v Speaker 1>by then Anthony Davis may be playing, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but the game on on a giant ninety eight inch

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<v Speaker 1>four K television that we're then gonna turn around and

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<v Speaker 1>give away on Sunday at our super Bowl party at Rollertown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna use it twice.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna use it for a MAV watching party and

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<v Speaker 3>then to watch the super Bowl. And then after the

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl, someone's gonna win that TV and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>put it back in the box and get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Over to your house. What's a a box? So?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, So we have Thursday night if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to give us your MAVs opinions and hear what we

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<v Speaker 3>have to say in person, and sometimes even better stuff

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<v Speaker 3>can happen off the record. Come hang out with us

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday night at Rollertown and then Sunday you can watch

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<v Speaker 3>the super Bowl with us at Rollertown on that big

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<v Speaker 3>ninety eight ch TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And somebody can win that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I just know in order to win that thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be registered to our newsletter at Benin's,

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<v Speaker 1>So go to Beninskin dot com you can, and also

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<v Speaker 1>at Beninskin dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>This ties into the segment. You will find a link

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<v Speaker 2>to the YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Video we did today our our Maverick emergency super Soaker.

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<v Speaker 1>So we went on the air at ten o'clock and

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<v Speaker 1>we logged off at eleven forty five. We talked MAVs

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<v Speaker 1>and Luca for an hour and forty five minutes. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get the full download, do it tonight. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I would encourage you to listen to Christina. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be playing music here in about fifteen minutes, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, fifteen minutes, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe like listen to Christina and listen to the video

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. Yeah, that would probably be sensical.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we needed that conversation. I mean, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to go for an hour. Looked up,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an hour and forty five minutes. We covered

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<v Speaker 1>every single angle this thing, from the emotion to the basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>to the x's and o's, what does it mean from here?

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<v Speaker 2>What else might they do?

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot to unpack, and so I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>from a lot of people they thought it was very therapeutic,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're grateful. We love hearing that if we helped

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<v Speaker 3>you feel better in just a littless way, that means

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<v Speaker 3>a lot to us. But yeah, so Thursday night at

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<v Speaker 3>Rollertown and then Super Bowl Sunday at Rollertown.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think, like I saw the comments you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about too bad about people. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>great and we appreciate that, but come do it with

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<v Speaker 1>us in person on Thursday, like, tell us what you think.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we want to talk through all this, and

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<v Speaker 1>as you guys know, I'm always looking for an excuse

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<v Speaker 1>to drink beer. So come drink beer with us, eat

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<v Speaker 1>some food, and we'll continue this Luca conversation. And I

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<v Speaker 1>actually feel like this is the part that nobody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. And I understand this is still a

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<v Speaker 1>great team and we feel tremendous loss, but I still

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<v Speaker 1>think that if this team is healthy, they can win

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<v Speaker 1>a championship this year. That's how strongly I feel about

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. Yeah, it's a great roster. Berkley says they're

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<v Speaker 1>the second best team in the Western Conference now.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I think they were before.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, you know, I think what you get down to is,

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<v Speaker 3>if you ask all Maverick fans, everybody listening to this

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<v Speaker 3>right now on the Eagle, would you rather have Luca

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<v Speaker 3>on the Mavericks for the next ten years?

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<v Speaker 2>But you do not win the championship.

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<v Speaker 3>You go in lots of great adventures, He makes lots

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<v Speaker 3>of trick shots, He has that Luca Magic, maybe he

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<v Speaker 3>sets a new scoring record, who knows. But you go

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<v Speaker 3>ten years with no championship, would you rather have that

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<v Speaker 3>or go two years without Luca and win a championship

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<v Speaker 3>in one of those years with Anthony Davis? Like, what's

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<v Speaker 3>more valuable to you? And for me this may be

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<v Speaker 3>an irrational take. I want the journey. I want Luca.

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<v Speaker 3>I want the decade of magical memories. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>if you go win a championship but a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years with mercenaries, you've hired that you're not really invested

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<v Speaker 3>in or attached to, and you haven't gone through all

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<v Speaker 3>the hardship along the way to make the journey that

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<v Speaker 3>much more special, it doesn't mean as much. But maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say that something different, Like I enjoyed that Rangers

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<v Speaker 3>World Series and I wasn't attached to those players, to

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<v Speaker 3>KT's point, like I was to Michael Young, Ian Kensler,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but I enjoyed that World Series.

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<v Speaker 3>But I enjoyed I you know, I enjoyed what the

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<v Speaker 3>Dirk did in twenty eleven more than anything I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>Because he worked so hard to get it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was overwhelmed, crying and didn't want to be a

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<v Speaker 3>part of the postgame festivities because he just had to

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<v Speaker 3>go be by himself. That's how we all felt in

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<v Speaker 3>that moment. Yeah, I feel like this is yeah, might work.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great that it worked for you. You know, it

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<v Speaker 3>just seems cold. Yeah, I understand all that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's super valid. I think that those things take time, hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I'm sure I'm butchering this. The line is

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes attributed to Woody Allen where he says comedy is

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but tragedy plus time. Yeah, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 3>like right now, it's just it's too overwhelming and too

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<v Speaker 3>shocking too, I think, be rational. But as I sit

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<v Speaker 3>here and I listen to you give me those two options,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what I get to see Kyrie Irving's redemption story.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds amazing. Sign me up, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's That's the other thing I have not been thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about kai that nobody has. We're thinking about the pain

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<v Speaker 3>we feel because Luca's not here. But I love Kyrie too.

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<v Speaker 3>I love him. I love what he means to basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>I love watching him play the game. I love the

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<v Speaker 3>human being that he is I want to know what

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<v Speaker 3>he feels about this, and we may never know, but

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<v Speaker 3>if he also if him and Ja Kid and Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Finley and other people in the organization were like, this

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<v Speaker 3>sucks but we have to do that, that changes how

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<v Speaker 3>I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, because okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take We talked about this earlier just tuning in. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Nico kind of laid out a scenario in which only

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<v Speaker 1>he and Patrick Dumont on the Maverick side knew about

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<v Speaker 1>the trade until it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, are we going to take him at face

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<v Speaker 2>value about that? In that case?

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<v Speaker 1>That absolves everyone from the anger we feel except for Nico,

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<v Speaker 1>and except for the new owner, which is a businessman

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<v Speaker 1>and doesn't have a history of knowing basketball and believes

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<v Speaker 1>in Nico. Right, so you know, no one's going to

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<v Speaker 1>quoe unquote blame him or whatever. This makes it feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's very Nico and Nico made the decision. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the things that are detailed in articles

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<v Speaker 1>about what the did you see the Mark Stein quote

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<v Speaker 1>where the Mavericks organization was quote over Luka Doncic Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the exact quote from really yeah, sort

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<v Speaker 3>One of his ones that come out and email, cause

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<v Speaker 3>I read everything that's coming out from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was the one that came out, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday where he said the Mavericks organization was over

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<v Speaker 1>Luka doncic, Like what the the being out of shape,

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<v Speaker 1>the complaining to officials, the all of this, Like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're over it, right, like right, So, and that's Stein's

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<v Speaker 1>reporting from people in the organization. And so if we

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<v Speaker 1>take that at face value, what that means is that

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<v Speaker 1>they've had conversations, all of them, Findley, Nico, Matt McCarty,

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<v Speaker 1>like all these people in the scouting department, the analytics guys,

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<v Speaker 1>like they've had all these conversations. And during those conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you guys, Hey, man, I've got numbers that when

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<v Speaker 1>Luca gets a tech for complaining that we lose one

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<v Speaker 1>point nine points purposes, Like they have numbers for all this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So as they're having their discussion like we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>stop this, I'm sick of this that and everyone's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. That's different than Okay, you guys want trade

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<v Speaker 1>him for Anthony Davis. I bet they go Hell no, way,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do hold on, Okay, these things aren't

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<v Speaker 1>mutually exclusive. We can be angry at the twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>year old and then not trade him for only Anthony Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot to this when we sort through

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<v Speaker 1>it from the outside. But I do think what I

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<v Speaker 1>think Nico made his mind up that it was a

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<v Speaker 1>bad idea for the organization to pay him the Supermax,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he said determined, I want Anthony Davis

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<v Speaker 1>because I think Anthony Davis's can put us over the

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<v Speaker 1>top and we go win a championship like that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>okay for other people in the organization to feel anger

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<v Speaker 1>with Luca, but that doesn't mean they would do that

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<v Speaker 1>same deal if they were consulted.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, they didn't get enough back for him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's universally, I mean, pretty much everyone on the planet

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<v Speaker 3>is saying, this is probably going to be the worst

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<v Speaker 3>trade that ever happens in professional sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless it's not unless they win a championship.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless they win championships, unless Luca's his career is not

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<v Speaker 3>what we think it's going to be. You know, if

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<v Speaker 3>Lucas struggles with his weight, with his lifestyle, with drinking

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<v Speaker 3>whatever that is, and never really ends up being what

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<v Speaker 3>we all think he could be if he gets like,

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<v Speaker 3>right now. If it's almost as if they're saying, we

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<v Speaker 3>think that's the road Luca's gonna go down right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And like, you know who one of the most revered

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<v Speaker 1>players is in the history of the NBA, loved by

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<v Speaker 1>his peers, Hall of Fame, Alan Iverson, And he went

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<v Speaker 1>hard and his career was over at thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>He went hard in terms of off the court both okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was the He's considered by a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear the phrase he's the toughest little guy of all

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<v Speaker 1>time because he took so much.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was in.

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<v Speaker 1>He shut every casino down, He drank a lot, He

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<v Speaker 1>gambled away his family fortune like he went that man went.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was also Alan Iverson was imprisoned as a

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's a lot different it happens with these things.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know, as we put a bow on this,

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<v Speaker 3>how Christine is doing because when we got here to

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<v Speaker 3>look at her, she looks like she's crying.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I wasn't crying today. I did cheer up a

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<v Speaker 4>bit well this morning actually, but okay, no, you brought

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<v Speaker 4>up if we do win this year, I don't care

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<v Speaker 4>if we win next year, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't. We're not winning with Luca feel right, and.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like I do not care. I'll be pissed, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>if we win this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think time will help.

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<v Speaker 1>Time will help, and it maybe next year. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Luca, but I'm invested in Kyrie. I'm invested

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<v Speaker 1>in PJ. Washington Junior. I'm invested in The Landlord Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I love watching Yeah, I love watching How the Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Lively The Second Story.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, Yeah, dude, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough day, tough weekend, but we got more shows tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Christina Ray is next. I'll never forget the time KT

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<v Speaker 1>looked Omax dead in his eye and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll do it for this one, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Omax was confused because he didn't know who KT was.

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<v Speaker 1>Christina k Ray Ray is next right here on ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven point won the Eagle.

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<v Speaker 2>There you going you well, I'm gonna get my sack back, Dude, alight.