Speaker 1: All right, this segment right here is brought to you
Speaker 1: by Rollertown beer Works, and it's gonna tie into the
Speaker 1: whole segment we're doing here, Ben, because first of all,
Speaker 1: Rollertown beer Works is the brewery up there in Solina
Speaker 1: that you and I.
Speaker 2: Are partners in.
Speaker 1: And we have two big things going on this week,
Speaker 1: and one of them ties into the topic that is
Speaker 1: the lead story on every news channel. We've talked about
Speaker 1: it multiple times, and that is the Mavericks have traded
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic. And there's a lot to think through, but
Speaker 1: it is very obvious that the Metroplex is devastated by this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just.
Speaker 1: Being objective here seeing reaction. Even if you, like you're
Speaker 1: not a Maverick fan or basketball fan. Let's say you
Speaker 1: only follow rugby and you're watching this, You're going, God,
Speaker 1: everyone sure to love this Luca guy. It's the lead story,
Speaker 1: and it's the entire front page of the paper and
Speaker 1: look at this. So everyone that listens to the show
Speaker 1: knows how closely we feel or strongly we feel about
Speaker 1: Luca and the MAVs and all this, But objectively, it's
Speaker 1: far it's one of the biggest stories in the nation
Speaker 1: because it's so shocking. So originally, you and I we're
Speaker 1: gonna have what we call a sound doown game watching
Speaker 1: party because the MAVs play the Celtics on Thursday, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it at the brewery and turn the
Speaker 1: sound down and commentate the game. What we've decided to
Speaker 1: do with you, suitet listener is we're still gonna have
Speaker 1: the game going on, and we'll tell you about what
Speaker 1: that is in a second, but we're gonna invite everyone
Speaker 1: out and we are just going to all share our
Speaker 1: feelings together. We're gonna drink some cold, delicious beer. We
Speaker 1: have nineteen fresh local beers on tap. Cheddar Wheel is
Speaker 1: a great food truck. It's gonna be there. But we're
Speaker 1: just gonna turn it into like a therapy session, right
Speaker 1: like a public forum convent. If you want to tell
Speaker 1: us we're wrong, if you want us to hug you,
Speaker 1: if you want.
Speaker 2: To drink beer.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have the game on the Celtic and
Speaker 1: by then Anthony Davis may be playing, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but the game on on a giant ninety eight inch
Speaker 1: four K television that we're then gonna turn around and
Speaker 1: give away on Sunday at our super Bowl party at Rollertown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna use it twice.
Speaker 3: We're gonna use it for a MAV watching party and
Speaker 3: then to watch the super Bowl. And then after the
Speaker 3: super Bowl, someone's gonna win that TV and we're gonna
Speaker 3: put it back in the box and get it.
Speaker 2: Over to your house. What's a a box? So?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So we have Thursday night if you want
Speaker 3: to give us your MAVs opinions and hear what we
Speaker 3: have to say in person, and sometimes even better stuff
Speaker 3: can happen off the record. Come hang out with us
Speaker 3: Thursday night at Rollertown and then Sunday you can watch
Speaker 3: the super Bowl with us at Rollertown on that big
Speaker 3: ninety eight ch TV.
Speaker 2: And somebody can win that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just know in order to win that thing,
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Speaker 2: This ties into the segment. You will find a link
Speaker 2: to the YouTube.
Speaker 1: Video we did today our our Maverick emergency super Soaker.
Speaker 1: So we went on the air at ten o'clock and
Speaker 1: we logged off at eleven forty five. We talked MAVs
Speaker 1: and Luca for an hour and forty five minutes. So
Speaker 1: if you want to get the full download, do it tonight. Man,
Speaker 1: I would encourage you to listen to Christina. You're going
Speaker 1: to be playing music here in about fifteen minutes, aren't you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, fifteen minutes, So.
Speaker 1: Maybe like listen to Christina and listen to the video
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, that would probably be sensical.
Speaker 1: I think we needed that conversation. I mean, I thought
Speaker 1: we were going to go for an hour. Looked up,
Speaker 1: it was an hour and forty five minutes. We covered
Speaker 1: every single angle this thing, from the emotion to the basketball,
Speaker 1: to the x's and o's, what does it mean from here?
Speaker 2: What else might they do?
Speaker 3: There was a lot to unpack, and so I've seen
Speaker 3: from a lot of people they thought it was very therapeutic,
Speaker 3: and we're grateful. We love hearing that if we helped
Speaker 3: you feel better in just a littless way, that means
Speaker 3: a lot to us. But yeah, so Thursday night at
Speaker 3: Rollertown and then Super Bowl Sunday at Rollertown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, like I saw the comments you
Speaker 1: were talking about too bad about people. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: great and we appreciate that, but come do it with
Speaker 1: us in person on Thursday, like, tell us what you think.
Speaker 1: You know, we want to talk through all this, and
Speaker 1: as you guys know, I'm always looking for an excuse
Speaker 1: to drink beer. So come drink beer with us, eat
Speaker 1: some food, and we'll continue this Luca conversation. And I
Speaker 1: actually feel like this is the part that nobody wants
Speaker 1: to talk about. And I understand this is still a
Speaker 1: great team and we feel tremendous loss, but I still
Speaker 1: think that if this team is healthy, they can win
Speaker 1: a championship this year. That's how strongly I feel about
Speaker 1: the roster. Yeah, it's a great roster. Berkley says they're
Speaker 1: the second best team in the Western Conference now.
Speaker 2: Which I think they were before.
Speaker 3: Anyways, you know, I think what you get down to is,
Speaker 3: if you ask all Maverick fans, everybody listening to this
Speaker 3: right now on the Eagle, would you rather have Luca
Speaker 3: on the Mavericks for the next ten years?
Speaker 2: But you do not win the championship.
Speaker 3: You go in lots of great adventures, He makes lots
Speaker 3: of trick shots, He has that Luca Magic, maybe he
Speaker 3: sets a new scoring record, who knows. But you go
Speaker 3: ten years with no championship, would you rather have that
Speaker 3: or go two years without Luca and win a championship
Speaker 3: in one of those years with Anthony Davis? Like, what's
Speaker 3: more valuable to you? And for me this may be
Speaker 3: an irrational take. I want the journey. I want Luca.
Speaker 3: I want the decade of magical memories. I don't want
Speaker 3: if you go win a championship but a couple of
Speaker 3: years with mercenaries, you've hired that you're not really invested
Speaker 3: in or attached to, and you haven't gone through all
Speaker 3: the hardship along the way to make the journey that
Speaker 3: much more special, it doesn't mean as much. But maybe
Speaker 3: I'd say that something different, Like I enjoyed that Rangers
Speaker 3: World Series and I wasn't attached to those players, to
Speaker 3: KT's point, like I was to Michael Young, Ian Kensler,
Speaker 3: Josh Hamilton, Napoli.
Speaker 2: You know, but I enjoyed that World Series.
Speaker 3: But I enjoyed I you know, I enjoyed what the
Speaker 3: Dirk did in twenty eleven more than anything I've ever
Speaker 3: enjoyed in my sports life.
Speaker 2: Because he worked so hard to get it.
Speaker 3: He was overwhelmed, crying and didn't want to be a
Speaker 3: part of the postgame festivities because he just had to
Speaker 3: go be by himself. That's how we all felt in
Speaker 3: that moment. Yeah, I feel like this is yeah, might work.
Speaker 3: It's great that it worked for you. You know, it
Speaker 3: just seems cold. Yeah, I understand all that. I think
Speaker 3: it's super valid. I think that those things take time, hurt,
Speaker 3: you know. I'm sure I'm butchering this. The line is
Speaker 3: sometimes attributed to Woody Allen where he says comedy is
Speaker 3: nothing but tragedy plus time. Yeah, you know, and so
Speaker 3: like right now, it's just it's too overwhelming and too
Speaker 3: shocking too, I think, be rational. But as I sit
Speaker 3: here and I listen to you give me those two options,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what I get to see Kyrie Irving's redemption story.
Speaker 2: That sounds amazing. Sign me up, right.
Speaker 3: That's That's the other thing I have not been thinking
Speaker 3: about kai that nobody has. We're thinking about the pain
Speaker 3: we feel because Luca's not here. But I love Kyrie too.
Speaker 3: I love him. I love what he means to basketball.
Speaker 3: I love watching him play the game. I love the
Speaker 3: human being that he is I want to know what
Speaker 3: he feels about this, and we may never know, but
Speaker 3: if he also if him and Ja Kid and Michael
Speaker 3: Finley and other people in the organization were like, this
Speaker 3: sucks but we have to do that, that changes how
Speaker 3: I feel about it.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because okay, I want to
Speaker 1: take We talked about this earlier just tuning in. You know,
Speaker 1: Nico kind of laid out a scenario in which only
Speaker 1: he and Patrick Dumont on the Maverick side knew about
Speaker 1: the trade until it happened.
Speaker 2: But okay, are we going to take him at face
Speaker 2: value about that? In that case?
Speaker 1: That absolves everyone from the anger we feel except for Nico,
Speaker 1: and except for the new owner, which is a businessman
Speaker 1: and doesn't have a history of knowing basketball and believes
Speaker 1: in Nico. Right, so you know, no one's going to
Speaker 1: quoe unquote blame him or whatever. This makes it feel
Speaker 1: like it's very Nico and Nico made the decision. But
Speaker 1: I don't think the things that are detailed in articles
Speaker 1: about what the did you see the Mark Stein quote
Speaker 1: where the Mavericks organization was quote over Luka Doncic Like,
Speaker 1: I don't have the exact quote from really yeah, sort
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 3: One of his ones that come out and email, cause
Speaker 3: I read everything that's coming out from him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the one that came out, I believe
Speaker 1: on Sunday where he said the Mavericks organization was over
Speaker 1: Luka doncic, Like what the the being out of shape,
Speaker 1: the complaining to officials, the all of this, Like, man,
Speaker 1: we're over it, right, like right, So, and that's Stein's
Speaker 1: reporting from people in the organization. And so if we
Speaker 1: take that at face value, what that means is that
Speaker 1: they've had conversations, all of them, Findley, Nico, Matt McCarty,
Speaker 1: like all these people in the scouting department, the analytics guys,
Speaker 1: like they've had all these conversations. And during those conversations,
Speaker 1: aren't you guys, Hey, man, I've got numbers that when
Speaker 1: Luca gets a tech for complaining that we lose one
Speaker 1: point nine points purposes, Like they have numbers for all this. Okay,
Speaker 1: So as they're having their discussion like we've got to
Speaker 1: stop this, I'm sick of this that and everyone's like, yes,
Speaker 1: I agree. That's different than Okay, you guys want trade
Speaker 1: him for Anthony Davis. I bet they go Hell no, way,
Speaker 1: what do you do hold on, Okay, these things aren't
Speaker 1: mutually exclusive. We can be angry at the twenty five
Speaker 1: year old and then not trade him for only Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to this when we sort through
Speaker 1: it from the outside. But I do think what I
Speaker 1: think Nico made his mind up that it was a
Speaker 1: bad idea for the organization to pay him the Supermax,
Speaker 1: and I think he said determined, I want Anthony Davis
Speaker 1: because I think Anthony Davis's can put us over the
Speaker 1: top and we go win a championship like that. It's
Speaker 1: okay for other people in the organization to feel anger
Speaker 1: with Luca, but that doesn't mean they would do that
Speaker 1: same deal if they were consulted.
Speaker 2: Huh, they didn't get enough back for him.
Speaker 3: It's universally, I mean, pretty much everyone on the planet
Speaker 3: is saying, this is probably going to be the worst
Speaker 3: trade that ever happens in professional sports.
Speaker 2: Unless it's not unless they win a championship.
Speaker 3: Unless they win championships, unless Luca's his career is not
Speaker 3: what we think it's going to be. You know, if
Speaker 3: Lucas struggles with his weight, with his lifestyle, with drinking
Speaker 3: whatever that is, and never really ends up being what
Speaker 3: we all think he could be if he gets like,
Speaker 3: look at what Joel Embiid is going through right now,
Speaker 3: right you know, look at what Zion is going through
Speaker 3: right now. If it's almost as if they're saying, we
Speaker 3: think that's the road Luca's gonna go down right now,
Speaker 3: and that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And like, you know who one of the most revered
Speaker 1: players is in the history of the NBA, loved by
Speaker 1: his peers, Hall of Fame, Alan Iverson, And he went
Speaker 1: hard and his career was over at thirty three.
Speaker 2: He went hard in terms of off the court both okay.
Speaker 1: Like he was the He's considered by a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Hear the phrase he's the toughest little guy of all
Speaker 1: time because he took so much.
Speaker 2: But he was in.
Speaker 1: He shut every casino down, He drank a lot, He
Speaker 1: gambled away his family fortune like he went that man went.
Speaker 1: But he was also Alan Iverson was imprisoned as a
Speaker 1: high school kid because a fight happened at a bowling
Speaker 1: alley in a racist state.
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot different it happens with these things.
Speaker 3: I want to know, as we put a bow on this,
Speaker 3: how Christine is doing because when we got here to
Speaker 3: look at her, she looks like she's crying.
Speaker 4: No, I wasn't crying today. I did cheer up a
Speaker 4: bit well this morning actually, but okay, no, you brought
Speaker 4: up if we do win this year, I don't care
Speaker 4: if we win next year, I don't.
Speaker 2: We don't. We're not winning with Luca feel right, and.
Speaker 4: So it's like I do not care. I'll be pissed, honestly,
Speaker 4: if we win this year.
Speaker 2: I think time will help.
Speaker 1: Time will help, and it maybe next year. But again,
Speaker 1: I love Luca, but I'm invested in Kyrie. I'm invested
Speaker 1: in PJ. Washington Junior. I'm invested in The Landlord Man.
Speaker 1: I love watching Yeah, I love watching How the Derek
Speaker 1: Lively The Second Story.
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, dude, dude.
Speaker 1: It's tough day, tough weekend, but we got more shows tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Christina Ray is next. I'll never forget the time KT
Speaker 1: looked Omax dead in his eye and he said, well,
Speaker 1: that'll do it for this one, and.
Speaker 2: Omax was confused because he didn't know who KT was.
Speaker 1: Christina k Ray Ray is next right here on ninety
Speaker 1: seven point won the Eagle.
Speaker 2: There you going you well, I'm gonna get my sack back, Dude, alight.