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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, Hour number two O t B.
Thursday morning.
Speaker 4: It is training camp time in the NFL. We're starting
to get a great idea of who these teams are
and who they're going to be in ESPN dot Com
put out their best ross right. The top rosters rejected
starting lineups of all thirty two teams, and they ranked
them one to thirty two.
Speaker 3: I guess one. Oh, actually, I don't think you can.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to guess the top one.
Speaker 2: No, go ahead, Top rosters.
Speaker 3: The top roster.
Speaker 5: I mean I would say it would be the Eagles
number two. I mean that I ain't the only wrong
one on the list, don't.
Speaker 3: It's another fault. That's another bird.
Speaker 6: Like I'm thinking of the other birds, and I'm like,
there's no way.
Speaker 2: Quote them, quote quote the raven E. The Raven's the
best roster.
Speaker 4: It has them number one it has Baltimore Ravens number one.
Speaker 7: Do you remember us like debating Yeah, I do remember
as debating this last season, like the Eagles and Ravens
and them having so of the best rosters. So that
kind of the one in the two makes sense.
Speaker 5: The brought the hot, no reason should it not be
flipped though. Yeah, yeah, Philly, in my opinion, they have
a way better roster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you go Baltimore one, Philly two.
Speaker 4: Detroit number three, shout out to Detroit, grit number four
of the Bills, number five, the Chiefs. We'll go through
ten here, number six, the Broncos, which I don't know
about that. Seven Commanders, Yeah, seven Commanders, eight Rams, nine Bengals, No.
Speaker 3: Number ten, San Francisco forty.
Speaker 2: They got a good top three. Go look at the defense.
Speaker 4: BJ Hill is a good player, Chris Jenkins a good player.
They got Hendrickson and Stuart in here, but neither one
of those players is at camp right now. So like
that plays into what you're talking about. Tata plus, even
if Stuart's on board. Demetrius Knight, who they drafted out
of South Carolina is a dog. But to your point,
I mean, you look at it, does any defensive back
really scare you?
Speaker 5: No, at nine, Like, I'm fine if you put them
at fifteen nine, the.
Speaker 3: Broncos being at six.
Speaker 5: I mean they did add a lot in free agency.
They had a good free agency on defense.
Speaker 3: Okay, but if.
Speaker 4: You line up an eleven personnel and your three receivers
are Sutton Mims Junior and Pat Bryant, I'm like, yeah, okay.
Now they did add JK. Dobbins in the backfield to
go with R. J.
Speaker 3: Harvey, but.
Speaker 4: Evan Ingram at tight end, but you know he's on
his what third team in four years?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean maybe they're just thinking, good old line
bo Nix will take the next step.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're really a lot of quarterbacks in
this list, which they should, but they are saying they're
relying on some people to have some good sophomore seasons too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your first NFC South team doesn't come until twelve.
Tampa Bay Bucks come in at number twelve. You go,
you continue on down the list.
Speaker 2: Where's the Vikings on that list?
Speaker 3: They are eleven, I believe. Yeah, Vikings are.
Speaker 2: On the top ten probably I guess, I guess, Jay,
I guess their quarterbacks and unknown.
Speaker 4: No Texans coming in at thirteen. That feels like a
pretty stacked roster. Yeah, to be thirteen when you think
about all the weapons that they have at receiver, at back,
at quarterback, at dB, and on the defensive line. I mean,
they got Danil Hunter, will Anderson as their edge guys.
They got Stingley as a shutdown corner.
Speaker 3: CJ. Gardner Johnson signed with them.
Speaker 5: And Jalen Petree is an underrated player also, he was
good last year.
Speaker 3: I'd had the Texans a little bit higher.
Speaker 4: The Bears come in at fifteen, The LA Chargers come
in at sixteen.
Speaker 2: I think they should be higher.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels like they should be higher. Was the
Charger Charger at They should be higher. Look how good
they were a year ago. They kind of got better
at every position in the offseason.
Speaker 3: You got the Cowboys at eighteen.
Speaker 4: I was feeling about that too hot, too high?
Speaker 2: Yeah, quit too hot.
Speaker 5: I mean that's actually I guess we're all talent. That's
probably about right, all right, So.
Speaker 4: Where are the Raiders on this list? The Raiders on
this list coming in at twenty three.
Speaker 2: They should be lower. I think they should be way lower.
I think they should be lower too. Yeah, I think
they're I think Raiders is gonna be pretty dang all right,
Bowers is excellent. Look at look at the three receivers.
That is a baller. I mean he has like the illustrious,
like the beginning part of.
Speaker 3: His critical story, how he got it.
Speaker 5: But he was with the Jets though last year there
their line wasn't great.
Speaker 2: They didn't do a ton in the draft to help that.
Speaker 5: Like their receivers right now, No offense to our guy,
Jack Besh, he's a rookie. Should Kobe Myers, Jack Besh
and Trey Talker.
Speaker 3: Myers is a dude.
Speaker 2: That Myers is a good player.
Speaker 3: He's a good player. He just needs some help in
the backfield.
Speaker 2: And I heard this from DeVante Adams. He said, one
of the best athletes he's ever seen in his life. Max, Yeah,
just straight freak is free. But the d line will
be good.
Speaker 3: I think Max Crosby, how at your boy?
Speaker 2: I mean you got on death.
Speaker 4: So we talked about the Bucks being at twelve. You
got to go all the way down.
Speaker 3: To number.
Speaker 4: Twenty six to find the next team in the NFC South.
So twelve was the first appearance. You got to go
all the way to twenty six to find the next team,
which is the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3: I mean that's a team with Michael Pennick.
Speaker 4: Junior, John Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts, Jake Matthews, Kaden Ellis,
a j tur I mean they got some good players.
Twenty six on the list here for the Atlanta Falcons.
And then, well, wait a minute, you still got two
more NFC South teams. The Carolina Panthers come in at thirty.
They are thirtieth on this list. We know what their
core looks like. You got Hubbert at running back, you
got Bryce Young, you got Theling, you got Xavier Leggett,
Tedo McMillan with somebody they took in the top ten.
Get some you know, some players like a Derek Brown
on defense, j C. Horn at the corner position. Well,
thirty one's the Cleveland Browns. That leaves one team, we said,
the Saints. Yep, we have not so what I say twelve,
twenty six and thirty for the NFC South. The Cleveland
Browns are thirty one, So that means your New Orleans
Saints come in at thirty two.
Speaker 3: I was joking when I said, though, where's our thirty two.
Speaker 2: Where's our sound machine?
Speaker 3: I we really should have used that more was on me.
That was on me. I need to get on it
was on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he had to flip the camera, Like what
what were we doing, Matthew?
Speaker 3: We had a great view in the first day. Uh.
It says the biggest strength is edge rusher.
Speaker 4: What Carl Granderson, Chase Young, Cam Jordan Isaiah Foski says
that is their biggest strength edge rusher. It says their
biggest weakness. He's the quarterback position. Of course. It lists
you know, Tyler Shuck, Spencer Rattler, Jake Hayner. How do
we feel about biggest strength and biggest weakness?
Speaker 2: For the first the first sentence of the biggest weakness
is because Derek Carr's sudden retirement left us weak.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's gonna be up That
does a positive.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be an upgrade.
Speaker 4: Have you seen his reviews of cars, the Car Brothers
car reviews. Not a lot of dynamic situations going on there.
Speaker 2: Biggest strength can't be your edge rusher, like I'm putting
d line. If not one, then two.
Speaker 5: As far as your biggest question mark, like the Saints
of D line's not good.
Speaker 4: Where would you put their biggest strength And that's not rhetorical.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe linebacker. I mean to Mario Davis and Pete Warner,
really good players. They brought Stutsman in who they really like,
like maybe linebacker, Like they're they're fine there.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's the that's the problem.
Speaker 7: Then they're like Carl Granderson has emerged as one of
the league's most underrated pass rushers, which like his stuff
isn't terrible, but like.
Speaker 3: He's nice, he's solid, nice guy, he's a solid player.
Speaker 2: So they're saying that.
Speaker 4: The problem, y'all, though, is if that's your biggest strength,
Like the thing is, Taylor, you can make an argument
for linebacker, and I'd listen, Alanja, you can make one
for another position. I'd listen. I could sit here and
I could try to give you like running back maybe
and maybe y'all would listen. Maybe I don't know where
you like. Yeah, But the problem is we can't come
up with a position to say this is it on
the team and and be like, yeah, you're right, you're right.
They don't have that right now. Edge rusher is not
the answer. But if you ask ten people you're gonna
get like seven different answers.
Speaker 2: Well all, so you'll love this.
Speaker 5: This list came out on Monday, So Tyrat Matthews a
projected starter.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say safety if it was two days ago.
Biggest strength.
Speaker 6: You got Koli McKinstry, Alantes Taylor.
Speaker 3: If KO.
Speaker 7: Make an argument for either corner or right, I think
you can make an argument for running back just because
of Alvin Kamara. And then you got that rookie that
came in, Devin, and then you still have Clyde.
Speaker 3: Edwards Hilaire, right, we'll see you got Ken Dre Miller.
Speaker 4: That's that's the only position I can like, I feel
like I can give you a debate and not feel
like Billy Maddison you have there.
Speaker 2: So the problem with corner though, Like think about.
Speaker 4: This, Billy Madison and a debate you've seen Billy mattis yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: When you're hoping that kool Aid mckinsree as your shut
down corner, Like, think about this all off season. You're like, man,
who's gonna win that corner job on the opposite of
kool Aid McKinstry. Like mckintree was a rookie who played
a little bit last year. We saw a little bit,
and you're booking him to be the inserted guaranteed starter
and a battle on the other side, like mckintree hasn't
done anything in the NFL, and that's the guy you're
sure about.
Speaker 3: I know he's about it pop though, I hope, I
hope he does.
Speaker 6: Okay, but it's not Edge.
Speaker 3: It's not Edge. No, it's not Edge.
Speaker 4: I truly do think running back is the only one
that you could make a solid argument and you could
get people to actually listen to.
Speaker 7: I do agree with their X factor though that the
tax is Calvin Bankstee.
Speaker 6: You're in Tally Essay X factor.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but their non starter no is Kendre Miller.
Speaker 6: So yeah, but think your true argument.
Speaker 3: It's running back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, running back, that's where we're gonna go with we
I'd go he's Spencer Roller.
Speaker 3: So you're going quarterback, strong fish team cool.
Speaker 5: I mean, I would love to go running factor. There's
a lot of bodies. I just don't know what we're
gonna get outside of Kamara.
Speaker 2: We just don't know depth wise.
Speaker 3: Sure, I feel like.
Speaker 6: Kendre wasn't staying healthy because of Dennis Allen though.
Speaker 4: Maybe, But Kendre, this is this is his last chance
when he played mentally and physically, he's got a lock in.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like there was you know, some stuff out there about
him not knowing the playbook. I'm not really caring to
know the playbook, him not putting his best foot forward
as far as I'm gonna play. Hurt, being hurt and
injureds different. Now, Like you said, though, that was that
was Dennis Allen. How much of that was from him?
How much from the player?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: Because that feels like a culture issue.
Speaker 3: So this is this is it for him, and he's
a he's a really good player.
Speaker 4: And when TCU went to the National Championship game, now
I know what, I know what happened in.
Speaker 3: That game, but to get there, yeah, he was a
big part of it.
Speaker 2: Team touchdowns that year. I mean, he was a monster.
Speaker 4: Well he got hurt. Yeah, not that it would matter.
They all a million, but like, he's a really good
football player. They get that's why he's gotten the chances
that he's gotten, because he'll flash of practice.
Speaker 3: Nobody like, oh man, we can't get rid of this.
Speaker 2: Guy, right, I just we've all seen that player. Yeah,
he's practice, like you can't deny his athleticism as playmaking ability, and.
Speaker 4: Every time like he doesn't know the plays or he
shows up later like I don't, I don't know. I'm
just saying like in general, I'm not talking about just
Kendre Miller. I don't know if he's been late to meetings,
but we've all been around that player that has been yeah,
and it's like, man, that was me, I'd be cut,
but I didn't hit that eighty yard stretch run in practice.
Speaker 2: The other DA Jimbo used to say it. He's like,
you know, you can be little and play football, but
you better be special. It's just kind of the same
thing with that, like you can kind of disappear for
a long time or for stretches of time and making
plays and you can make mental layers and not learn,
but you better be special, Like you better be able
to do something that nobody else can do. And we've
all seen it. We all seen that guy, no matter
what if it's high school, college, NFL, we've all seen
that guy practice. That's like he can do things that
other people can't do, and he's gonna get way more
chances because of it. I do think we do need
to mention this.
Speaker 5: Yesterday you know, media had like a small viewing portion
of training camp, right, so I mean take away with
this what you want. A couple of reports came out yesterday,
the ones like running with the ones was Kamara behind him?
It was Clyde and Devin Neil Kendre Miller was not
there and Andre Miller was on the other field with
the backup unit.
Speaker 2: He was not rotating with.
Speaker 3: Well, be I bet some of that too, is like, hey, Bud, you.
Speaker 2: Gotta earn it. No, for sure, we've heard Clyde's and
established new coaching.
Speaker 4: Staff, but some of the stuff that happened has been
passed down to us.
Speaker 2: Like I would love for running back to be deep.
I just I don't know. I think this needs to
be said as well. Y'all brought up the name. UH
found out at SEC media Days that Dennis Allen played
tackle football.
Speaker 6: For Texas at like a high level.
Speaker 2: At a high level, and apparently he knew.
Speaker 6: I thought he was a safety, was he or no?
Speaker 2: I think yeah, he was a safety. They told me
he was a safety. And if you don't know, it's
on defense where you have to go hit people, which
is crazy, which was absolutely shocking because.
Speaker 6: He's so soft now shocking.
Speaker 3: He also played We heard a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of things, but that is one
thing that I didn't have a response to.
Speaker 7: It doesn't he's it makes sense he's an aggy. It
doesn't make sense that he was a safety.
Speaker 2: We were sitting, we were having dinner with coach. Coach
knew heisl and he was telling the stories about Denis
making a play one time. He was like, wait, the coach.
Speaker 3: Play he made a play against him.
Speaker 2: But he's been just a DC. He's actually been pretty good. Yeah,
but you're not looking at him well watching him walk
around and be like that guy I used to buckle
it up.
Speaker 5: Right, But I guess you could also say, like all
these coaches are just fat out of shape, Like I
guess he's more in shape than some of the coaches
in the NFL.
Speaker 2: He's just skinny and yeah he just lost weight after
he plays weakchin baby cakes weakchin no cakes weak.
Speaker 7: Like just aura about him, Yeah, very much. Not somebody
that I would want to follow into battle.
Speaker 2: The school he went to has yell leaders, like it's
a tradition.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That the fact that Dan Campbell came from there
is wild.
Speaker 5: I know that is the only have transferred inn.
Speaker 7: That is the only Aggie that I can kind of
accept because I love Campbell.
Speaker 3: That How are that? How are the players you grew
up Texas fans? How are they plays?
Speaker 2: At SEC media Day?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 6: What did you gusk?
Speaker 3: The linebacker was awesome? That that that like York that
likes My High so much?
Speaker 4: I think I told that story like you found out
that he loves My High and he had a certain
flavor that he liked. And so when I gave him
that hat and My High, you would have thought I
gave him the Willy Wanka Golden ticket.
Speaker 3: He was so excited. He goes My High like, oh,
that's my flavor.
Speaker 4: I'm like yeah, actually, like I do radio with with
the owner, the creator whatever of My High, and he
found out that this is your favorite flavor, and he
wanted to give you a hat.
Speaker 3: He's like, this is It's like Christmas morning. This is awesome.
I'm like, man, this guy really likes.
Speaker 6: Did you give him like just the hat or did
you give him some My.
Speaker 3: Matt gave me some his favorite.
Speaker 2: It was they were on Thursday, so I had to
go so I couldn't like stick someone. I was hoping
they'd go in the morning so I could see him. Yeah,
but yeah, they they've been using for a little while.
Speaker 3: He was very well spoken.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are ticians over there like he's our captain,
like he loves it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, I love that hydrated Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they get it for the eellators because those guys
work hard. You know, those guys really put it all
out there.
Speaker 7: So you should go bring them some my high and
maybe do a little practice with them.
Speaker 4: Those guys would do anything for it, yea, how you
put it in the drink because they have to practice
all the things they do.
Speaker 5: Over under two and a half. How many times Dennis
Allen turned in that fountain.
Speaker 2: Probably a lot, as y'all y'all give the ellators, y'all
hate them a lot. But those guys, you know, they
they will do anything. They'll bend over forward for the aggies, what.
Speaker 7: Say, uh they will They certainly will will anything.
Speaker 4: So enclosing after that, the NFC South, according to ESPN
dot com, as far as rosters, in the totality of
the strength of the roster, Tampa Bay at twelve Atlanta
at twenty six, Carolina at thirty and New Orleans at
thirty two should be.
Speaker 7: A hell of It does not feel like how it's
been the past couple of years though, Like it's always
been like Tampa Bay kind of ahead of everybody else.
Speaker 4: I think Tampa is ahead of everybody now. It used
to be like every year with somebody different. Tampa they
prayed the culture of their foundation.
Speaker 6: Last year.
Speaker 3: I feel like they were yeah, yeah, their foundation is
much stronger.
Speaker 2: I think, well, they they've won, They've won the NFC
South four years.
Speaker 4: And but remember I'm saying, like, yeah, go back for sure.
By six seven years, it was like every year like
there was a different team. Absolute Tampa's got the foundation.
Speaker 5: It was one of the I mean for a while
that was considered one of the toughest divisions in football.
Now look at the numbers thirty two and you go,
but they gives you hope.
Speaker 2: Should we got hope my comeback? Should they be thirty two?
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Speaker 4: All right, Tota, you were talking about the roster the
Saints coming in at number thirty two according to ESPN
dot com, and you questioned if they should have been
thirty two on this list.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just looking like and maybe maybe not
like should they be thirty two? But like if you
could replace some of the few teams, who would you like?
I get that everybody expects big things about cam Ward.
I don't love that roster Offensively, they got some weapons. Defensively,
m M, like that's that's an iffy one. I mean
the Jets like they got a good receiver in Wilson
and base Hall.
Speaker 3: But you imagine if you had to play for the Jets.
Speaker 2: Right, like the Jets, and you played for Jets. Yeah,
I wasn't.
Speaker 6: Yeh, that's what you had the man bun right.
Speaker 3: It was just in training camp though, right, Okay, real bad.
Speaker 2: Remember I almost missed my first child's birth because of them.
Who is the sorry I was playing for the Jets?
What you Fitzpatrick was there? Gino Smith was I went
there because Gino Smith got punching the jaw.
Speaker 3: But I remember.
Speaker 2: That, yep. And Fitzpatrick was there.
Speaker 7: Bryce Peddy, this one's obvious.
Speaker 3: Holy Baylor Bears.
Speaker 2: Bryce Patty started game number four in the preseason. Not
a big deal.
Speaker 5: A little bit.
Speaker 2: I did a little bit about two, a couple of tutters.
Speaker 6: Ok, no big deal.
Speaker 3: What was your last your last pass in the NFL?
What was the outcome?
Speaker 2: It might have been a touchdown in that game? My
last rush was a touchdown. Yeah, I hadn't even never
thought about that. Okay, we'll find out. We'll do some research.
Speaker 4: Uh So, where do you think the Saints should be
if they shouldn't be thirty seconds?
Speaker 5: So that's the thing I'm debating right now, whether they should.
Speaker 2: Be moved up at all, because under the basement, my
thought was Cleveland.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like that one's obvious, and then like what Dylan
Gabriel is gonna come.
Speaker 5: The thing is, it's either gonna be right now round.
I was actually, you're gonna say, why would someone do this?
I would do this because I love to do this.
I was reading about the Cleveland Browns last night, and.
Speaker 2: That's the most I've ever heard it kind of right now.
Speaker 5: Like Flao's not taking reps because he's ancient and you
know what he can do. But right now it's it's
picking in Dylan Gabriel as far as the guys that
are coming in, like they're bad, but their defense is
a lot better than the Saints defense. Like top to bottom,
they're still better.
Speaker 3: They got maybe the most dominant defensive player.
Speaker 5: Right, but then their secondary like Denzel Ward, Greg Knew,
some Grant Delpit, Like that's better than anybody the Saints
have right now. So like that was one for me.
Maybe the Titans, Maybe that's the answer.
Speaker 2: The Titans of the of the like the bottom four,
I'm looking at the Titans stuck out to me, right,
like that's the only one, right, even the Jets, the
Jets have some really good pieces on defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well and the thing is, they're just going to
run the crap out of the ball. With briest On
justin field, It's like it's gonna be fine. Wilson really
good receiver. Mason Taylor's your tight end. Now, that's better
than anything the Saints have, and your d line's better
in New York. I don't know if there is a
team that you could switch, maybe the Titans that'd be
the only one.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Raiders roster is way too high too. It needs
to be bothered, like I could, like, I'm looking at it.
I'm like, so we very easily could see that being
you know, close to thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: As much as we like to hate him for like
two thousand and three, Pete Carroll can run a team, Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm going to lean on you, you know more, you.
Speaker 2: Well and to your point, like we didn't we didn't
consider staff. I guess it's like.
Speaker 8: We just have the.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I could argue.
Speaker 5: I could argue the Indianapolis Colts at thirty two, for sure.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about I was thinking about that he
still got Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael Pittman, Josh Downs is underrated. I don't know
you got you got Tyler Warren. He's a true unicorn.
They've got Nelson, one of the best interior probably the
best interior offensive lineman. Lat too is somebody that I'm
pretty high on. I know, like he's got a lot
of cards. No I met him at that met him
at Senior Bowl last not this year, but last year,
and he messed up his name. But he's incredible, Like
he was the first defensive player off the board in
that draft.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot still in there.
Speaker 5: I can that would be the team though, because, like
I agree with you, they got good receivers.
Speaker 3: I don't trust. I don't trust.
Speaker 2: I don't so properly ranked we're probably saying for.
Speaker 4: The Anthony Anthony Richardson when they drafted him, like Bob
was so hot. It blew my mind that Bob was
so high on Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2: The clips from training camp yesterday, I've got a pretty
heated quarterback battle Anthony Richardson versus Daniel Jones, and it
was a dual drop back against Ralse on air and
they both missed him. As you know, Matt like.
Speaker 4: And I love Shane Steiken's one of my favorite coaches
I've ever had on a on a team that I've
been on like he was. He was the defensive quality
control guy with us in San Diego. He was awesome.
He was one of those coaches and you've been around
these guys Matt that you knew he was gonna be
like a head coach. He like he could sit in
the middle of a room with the entire team as
a defensive quality control guy and had everybody dialed in
listening to everything that he was talking about.
Speaker 3: I think he's a really good football coach.
Speaker 4: But if you don't have a guy at the most
important position, it doesn't matter how good.
Speaker 3: You are, and he can dial them up.
Speaker 4: He could look anything, Richard, He'll win games because of talent.
He gonna win you anything of note, not as of
right now.
Speaker 2: And you look at I'm looking at these roster rankings too,
and like an embarrassment of riches for the opposite I
guess of NSC South n S North. The worst roster
they have in the NSC North is the Chicago Bears
coming in at fifteen, so extremely top heavy up there
in the North. Is the rules still in place the
NFL that only two teams in a division can make
the playoffs. So that's been gone. So that was when
we were playing. It was like two teams of Pro
division last years. Okay, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: I know your division as your division.
Speaker 2: I do know the division also kind of fall back
on the rules that.
Speaker 4: I played my entire career in the same division and
just like, all right, so it's going to be the
Chiefs and who else? Yeah, that one didn't What did
Denver make it? Yeah, Denver made it, So Denver Chief
San Diego, LA. But yeah, I think I'm prettyhigh on
the Bears this year too. I mean, that's the best
football are you hoping?
Speaker 2: All the people I got card Zon? I mean the
AFC South is that's by far the worst.
Speaker 3: Though you think it's worse than the NFC South, I
don't know.
Speaker 2: It depends on I don't know.
Speaker 7: You're like very like there's one outlier in the NFC South.
Speaker 5: I feel like, well, I think that I think there's
one in the a FC South. So I think it
depends who has the better season. The Texans at the bunks,
that's it. Because outside of the Texans you have the
Colts as Jaguars not really.
Speaker 2: Gonna do anything. Titans.
Speaker 5: We just argued they could be the worst team in
the league, bad division being I mean, if the Texans,
that's that's your team, that's the only team there.
Speaker 3: The South does mirror each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, both Bucks and the Texans, although I think the
Texans a little bit better than the Bucks. But yeah,
the rest of the team is like, you have hope,
maybe in in Jacksonville. I think Atlanta probably has hope.
And then you just got bad. Right now, you have bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Jacksonvill in Atlanta Boats.
It's like you said, they got hope. I wouldn't be
surprised if both of those teams weren't at least a
tough out, pretty dangerous, make a little run at it. Then.
I don't mean that's at the super Bowl. I mean
at the playoffs.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: So look, I I realized that we're trying to find
a way to get the Saints to be competitive. We're
trying to find a way for the Saints to be
better than they were a year ago. But this is
what the outside thinks about the New Orleans Saints. They
think they had the worst roster in the NFL. I
think they're a little bit higher, but I can see
the arguments. Where'd you put them. I put them like
twenty eight, twenty nine. Not much higher much. That's what
I'm saying. It's not much higher because I think when
you look at who they have, if we're rolling out
there first game of the year, I was like, okay,
like I can get behind that when you look at
quarterback is going to be so important.
Speaker 3: So like we don't know who's gonna.
Speaker 4: Start quarterback, but like you got ak, you gotta live,
you got Rashiet Shaheed, you got Cooks and Johnson, and
I like the offensive line of Banks and Penning and
McCoy and like I think, I think Pinning playing guard
is going to be actually a good thing for the Saints.
Flagg is gonna be moving to his more natural right tackle.
I don't Sesar Ruiz, I do. That's I mean, Jacqueline HoTT,
I don't know what you're gonna get from him. Like
I think Brian Berzy can take a step. I'll say
that coming over for like, I like, I can make
a case. But here's the problem though. If one guy
gets hurt here, if one guy gets hurt there, it's
uber drivers ye.
Speaker 3: That's the problem with the Saints roster.
Speaker 4: The first twenty two I put somewhere like twenty two,
twenty three. Right after that it's thirty two, and it's
not even a question.
Speaker 2: And well, the thing is like we look.
Speaker 5: At these rosters right like we're looking at the Titans.
You're like, hey, you're good here, but there's an unknown,
there's an under Like the entire Saints roster is in unknown.
Like to your point, like you're kind of banking on
the old line being good. And that's a weird thing
to say.
Speaker 3: But when you look at it, four first round picks
in the second rounder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four first and second, like that old line has
to be good. Yeah, And I will just say that
I think it's probably pretty properly ranked for the reason
we discussed. Because this list still has Tyro Matthew on it.
Yeah right, yeah, it's still and it's still thirty two.
The roster just got the roster just got worse, right, Yeah,
Tyrant retiring. They come out put in Jordan HALLI, oh,
there are everybody's These are people that play in the NFL.
So they're all really great football players. So you know,
if things happen here, they some people improve new coaching.
You just never know where it's going to end up.
But as of July twenty fourth, I think it's pretty accurate.
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Do you want the Packers? I can make that happen.
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Speaker 4: We'll try to like try to give you, like some
positive after ranking the Saints thirty two and and really
trying to find a way to create an on thirty
two situation, we found it a little bit more difficult
than we wanted to.
Speaker 3: But we'll give you some positive something positive when we
come back on OTB.
Speaker 1: Off the bench.
Speaker 4: If you're watching the Saints this year, you might need
to grab a couple of do sekis.
Speaker 3: You might need to go for dose.
Speaker 4: Like you'll have gray beer, you have your feet up,
you'll like you'll have to watch the Saints maybe, but
you'll enjoy it because you've got a do Sekis in hand,
so we always talk about it. It is the perfect beer.
Beach beer, lake beer, river beer, whatever beer. Go for
dose grab a do sequis, airport beer, studio beer. It
is always a good choice. We enjoyed them in Atlanta.
You can enjoy them in bat Ruge. You can enjoy
them in New Orleans. You can enjoy dose Sekis.
Speaker 2: Anywhere you can smell football right now, like it is,
we're getting the highlights of practices. Guess it? So what
does that mean? It is almost tailgates season? Are you
kidding me? So make sure that this season when you
go for tailgating, you make it. You go for dose.
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU football twenty four to seven. You're
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Speaker 4: All right, Welcome back in OGB one O four five, ESPN,
Beton Rouge and Misery Loves Company, And I said, I
was gonna give you some good news. The Saints might
not have the worst roster because unfortunately there's an injury
in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Yeah, nine minutes or seven minutes ago from Adam Schefter,
Jets quarterback Justin Fields carted off into the locker room
with an apparent lower leg injury.
Speaker 2: Someone actually at camp. Uh.
Speaker 5: Jets reporter says he was riding like shotgun on the cart.
He wasn't like, okay, maybe that's a little I mean
he was carted off lower leg, non contact, like you know,
people always fear the worst on that.
Speaker 2: So, uh we'll see. But uh yeah, maybe the Saints
are thirty one.
Speaker 4: Might just be a little cramp, right, might be Yeah,
maybe he didn't get hydrated.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's no high looking at Do we have any
professional teams that are hydrated?
Speaker 2: I mean as many as college.
Speaker 6: The packers should be hydrated.
Speaker 3: I better be hydrated.
Speaker 2: You need to get on the I.
Speaker 3: Don't like I need to answer that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to get listening.
Speaker 5: Pirates help ourt guy schemes out because they always up
blow leads late.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's it's.
Speaker 2: Justin Phils limped off practice. So he wasn't carried off practice.
Off the field there, you might just be a little crampy,
just a little little situation.
Speaker 6: Don't send him any of my high though.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 6: We don't need that because we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't need them to be thirty. Well, we don't
want to be st hydra.
Speaker 7: My other thing with the Saints are hydrated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. Let's go the Chargers.
Speaker 2: No, well prove it.
Speaker 3: It's still from when I was there.
Speaker 4: Hey, Chargers, if you don't want to be the Bush
League bolts, you need to be hydrated. Have you Have
you all seen the meme of the drill they do
with like the curtains and like hardball peeking through.
Speaker 2: No, what's so good?
Speaker 4: They do this drill and it's like two tarps which
they it's like on a rod, so it's like a
curtain and you know, the receivers are behind there and
the quarterbacks drop back and they tell receiver, you know,
which way to go, and the quarterbacks got to you know,
see it.
Speaker 3: Turn and throw and so they're doing this drill. They
catch harball.
Speaker 4: He's in the middle he's opening I he's peeking through
to watch Justin Herber do the drill.
Speaker 2: That man, strange man, good coach, great coach.
Speaker 4: That's very very if you interview Harball like person that
is him, there is nothing like he is like that.
And it's like there are a football families. Dad as
a coach Western Kentucky. Obviously his brother won a Super Bowl.
Like they're all different though, like his his brother.
Speaker 3: Is I don't want to say normals, like Jim's like
not normal.
Speaker 2: But his brother's not nearly as weird as see.
Speaker 3: He's not as quirky. I love it, though his Harball.
Speaker 5: It always threw me off with Harball. I remember the
story he came out he was at Michigan and like
he had sleep over. He stayed the night at the
recruits house, and I was always like.
Speaker 3: I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: That's a little odd, but I mean to make matters worse.
Speaker 5: It was also a kicker, like it wasn't it stayed
in at a five star QB recruits holes, Like we can
maybe get around at a kicker or full back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, hard news fullback that works.
Speaker 4: I do want to get to a story, but Ty
Tama throwe right back to you because I know that
you've been following this and covering this, and if we
would have had this story ten years ago in college football,
it would have been like, that's the wildest thing I've
ever heard. But we all know what Trey Holly in
a situation at LSU, and we were kind of waiting
to see what would happen with him at LSU because
you you kind of heard that it was going in
the right direction. And then a couple of days ago,
it just like pops up that and no, he's actually
on Southern's football team. He's actually like in a uniform,
like he's on the team. And like again ten years
ago to be like, what what are you talking about?
Like he was suspended from LSU's team, and he's on
Southern's team now, but with transfer rules and where they're
at and just all things in college football, like it
was like kind of a oh okay, like Trey like,
but there was obviously like what he's dealing with and
back home, we all know the situation. I mean, obviously
that's a serious situation. But now he's just apparently on
Southern's football team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, showed up on Tuesday. He is eligible right away.
Speaker 5: Their head coach was interviewed to open practice. He said
that he is good to go. As long as he
can get in shape, he's ready to go. I think
this is the best move for him because I mean nowadays,
I mean what Trey Holly is three years of eligibility. Yeah,
he could play one year, be awesome, go to the
Big twelve or something like that.
Speaker 2: Next season.
Speaker 5: LSU had this had this thing where they were like, hey,
you know, we want to do our due dilligence to
make sure everything's behind you before you rightfully, so when
I get it, and like, look, I don't I don't
know the situation.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna speculate.
Speaker 3: Any of us. Dude, Like it was kind of up
in the air.
Speaker 7: I do know that they like delayed the trial because
the ac was out in the courtroom.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yahia.
Speaker 5: Yes, they've delayed it three different times. It was supposed
to be like next week, conveniently pushed it back after
this upcoming football season. And not only did they say, oh,
we're delaying it because the air conditioners broken in our courthouse,
they announced that two weeks before the trial. So you
can't have if somebody come out and put in a
new AC in two weeks. Maybe that kind of difficult.
There's a lot of.
Speaker 3: We've heard some bad let's call it Dixon, see if
you can get somebody.
Speaker 5: People were kind of dragging their feed. I think this
is the best move for him. He needed to change anyways.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like I said, it's like literally popped up
out of nowhere and he was, you know, on SOUTHERNS
football team. And so obviously a situation that doesn't feel resolved,
and so we'll update you whenever it does. But a
new Tata would be all over that story. Right, we'll
close out our number two. We still got a big
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wanted me to pull up the Flipper remember the Flipper
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played the intro. He's like, that's not the one I
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