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Speaker 2: I still have Oliver with me, and we just have
Speaker 2: you know, so I don't know most of you guys probably
Speaker 2: don't know this. Maybe I've said it on a different episode.
Speaker 2: But what I do is I usually get a guest in.
Speaker 2: We usually book out two hours and we pick four
Speaker 2: topics and then we kind of roll through this. So
Speaker 2: I always say we'll be back in a minute, because
Speaker 2: literally I'm hitting record off talking and talking to Oliver,
Speaker 2: who's clearly passionate about.
Speaker 3: All of these subjects.
Speaker 2: He's like, I love to info dump on the subject
Speaker 2: we're passionate about.
Speaker 3: We just go crazy.
Speaker 2: So some of the things that we talk about in between,
Speaker 2: just those like few minutes even in between, become either
Speaker 2: fodder for the next one or something that's super interesting.
Speaker 2: And what we want to talk about this time is
Speaker 2: the idea of aging. Of course we're going to relate
Speaker 2: it to wolves as well, but we're a society that
Speaker 2: really values youth, and this is the other thing. You'll
Speaker 2: hear these guys talking about the idea of high value,
Speaker 2: the idea of you know, oh, the guys should be
Speaker 2: like looking. You know, he's only interested in those those
Speaker 2: fertility cues, and you know, all of these things, and
Speaker 2: the whole idea of most of these guys who think
Speaker 2: they're alpha really to me and I can't say the word.
Speaker 2: I keep trying to say the right word, but basically
Speaker 2: they're trying to make the women I think really be
Speaker 2: their daughters. Like the idea of you know, I can
Speaker 2: teach them everything. They can't make decisions without me. They're
Speaker 2: like so soft and like everything's so soft and whatever,
Speaker 2: and I'm just leaning up to my big man. You know,
Speaker 2: these ideas are put that along with everybody's shaving all
Speaker 2: their pussy hair off for the last however long, and
Speaker 2: we're starting to look a little bit like huh yeah, anyway,
Speaker 2: So where does it put those of us that are
Speaker 2: aging out of the mainstream everybody's looking at now, Look,
Speaker 2: men take a lot longer to age out. Men in
Speaker 2: their forties and forty five. I think forty forty to
Speaker 2: fifty is when they start looking really hot, like you know,
Speaker 2: that's they look like men. They've like grown into the
Speaker 2: man experience. And so that is a thing. I'm somebody
Speaker 2: who dates fifteen years younger, which is always surprised everybody,
Speaker 2: but I typically date younger, and I still think you, yeah,
Speaker 2: so sorry, and your wife is happy about that too.
Speaker 2: So so that but the idea that you know, and
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm shallowing that way right, Like I'm literally
Speaker 2: telling you, here's this age thing, and I tend to
Speaker 2: date younger, and it's an entergy jetic equation, not a
Speaker 2: looks equation. But I've changed that recently. I literally purposely
Speaker 2: changed that because I realized how shallow that is in
Speaker 2: a sense of both energetically, physically, lots of being met,
Speaker 2: like we have wisdom. There's a thing about being older
Speaker 2: that really is hotter, but we don't talk about that
Speaker 2: in society.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 2: We covet youth. Well, that's what we're all about. So
Speaker 2: let's jump into some like you know what in the
Speaker 2: wolf pack and the wolf family groups, are they automatically
Speaker 2: like I would imagine people think that, oh, the old
Speaker 2: the older wolf is like singing behind.
Speaker 3: They're leaving it behind.
Speaker 2: So like somebody's got to take it out and just
Speaker 2: like make sure that the weak link is gone.
Speaker 4: So let's talk about that, because it's as we've mentioned,
Speaker 4: I've I think it's reasonable to say that there's very few,
Speaker 4: if anybody, who spend as much time in direct contact
Speaker 4: with these animals as me. I mean, even the best
Speaker 4: biologists in the field are, you know, getting occasional glimpses
Speaker 4: of the animals. I walk out my door right and
Speaker 4: we are set up in a way that our animals.
Speaker 4: You know, certainly captive animals are different than while wild,
Speaker 4: free living animals, but we do everything we can to
Speaker 4: give our animals the opportunity to exercise as much of
Speaker 4: their wild behaviors and inclinations as possible so that we
Speaker 4: get to see that I'm kind of living my own experiment.
Speaker 4: And as we mentioned before, you know that my oldest
Speaker 4: animal is still the one everybody defers to. And people
Speaker 4: might say, oh, well, you know, that's an artificial circumstance.
Speaker 1: Your animals are captive, they're being cared for, or they
Speaker 1: don't have to perform.
Speaker 4: But here's what we've learned recently, and I think this
Speaker 4: is to me, this was so fascinating because there's a
Speaker 4: lot of wolf research being conducted around the world, and
Speaker 4: I read all of it very rarely as a study
Speaker 4: where I've just amazed and this and again had to
Speaker 4: the research coming out of the Yellstone Wolf Project over
Speaker 4: the last twenty years or.
Speaker 1: So has been really important.
Speaker 4: But in the last decade there's been a couple of
Speaker 4: young scientists that have just been transformational in our understanding
Speaker 4: of wolf dynamics. And so one of the studies done
Speaker 4: principally by cur Cassidy looked at wolf conflict in the park.
Speaker 1: There are around one hundred wolves.
Speaker 4: That are in the pretty much in the principal area
Speaker 4: of Yellowstone National Park. For those of that aren't familiar
Speaker 4: with the park, it exists in three states, Montana, Idaho,
Speaker 4: and Wyoming, and around the park there's there's hunting and
Speaker 4: so wolves that step out of this secured boundary can
Speaker 4: be hunted.
Speaker 1: But what they were looking at was, as we mentioned, wolves.
Speaker 4: Fight with other wolves over resources, over territorial boundaries, and
Speaker 4: there are times when wolves actually make a it appears
Speaker 4: that they decide to go to wolf like you will
Speaker 4: actually see the wolves come charging over a ridge into
Speaker 4: another pack's territory with the obvious intent of taking it over,
Speaker 4: and so what doctor, she's now a doctor. Congratulations Kia.
Speaker 4: What she looked at was two things, what were the
Speaker 4: uh pack composition characteristics that led to the decision to
Speaker 4: engage and who was going to win? And she created
Speaker 4: a matrix that was really interesting and sort of unsurprisingly.
Speaker 4: The first part was unsurprising, which was that whatever pack
Speaker 4: had more of what she considered prime age males, which
Speaker 4: your age two to five, like, more likely to get
Speaker 4: into fights, and whatever pack had an advantage in that
Speaker 4: age cohort was more likely to prevail. It makes sense,
Speaker 4: not very surprising. Accept and this is the thing that
Speaker 4: was so amazing. Accept that. And so what she did
Speaker 4: is she assigned weights, like numerical weights to those numbers,
Speaker 4: and she could just add up those numbers and say, okay,
Speaker 4: this is you know, a pack with a plus two
Speaker 4: is more likely to get in the fight, and a
Speaker 4: pack with a plus two is more likely to win.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Essentially, it was something almost as simple as that. But
Speaker 4: what she discovered was that, regardless of sex, what whenever
Speaker 4: a pack had an animal over eight years old, which
Speaker 4: is a very rare wolf, that is an old wolf,
Speaker 4: even in populations that aren't hunted. Right, life expectancy in
Speaker 4: the wild is two to five. It's hard to be
Speaker 4: a wolf though, even though in captivity a wolf can
Speaker 4: live to be sixteen seventeen years old, that's not unusual,
Speaker 4: so they could live longer, but nature kills them.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: The oldest wolves in the Yellowstone that they've documented, in fact,
Speaker 4: until recently, a wolf I don't remember her numeric designation
Speaker 4: off the top of my head. She was thirteen and
Speaker 4: had one eye when she passed, and she was still
Speaker 4: leading her family.
Speaker 1: And there was.
Speaker 4: Another one a few years ago, twelve females, both females.
Speaker 4: But what she found was that a eight year old
Speaker 4: wolf of either sex was worth two. So it was
Speaker 4: like a plus four in her equation. And it's not
Speaker 4: because they were the best fighters. It's not because they
Speaker 4: were the most aggressive. It's because they knew what to do, wisdom, strategy, experience,
Speaker 4: And I think that that's a very important thing to keep.
Speaker 1: In mind in life, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, you and I were discussing, you know, we
Speaker 4: get to an age where you start to you know,
Speaker 4: be aged out.
Speaker 1: Of jobs of you know, and you know.
Speaker 4: And companies are losing opportunity, huge opportunity because people have wisdom,
Speaker 4: and wisdom transcend. You can learn new stuff about tech, right,
Speaker 4: but you don't know what you don't know. Yeah, if
Speaker 4: you're young and a lot of you know, more senior leaders,
Speaker 4: more senior people, they've seen this stuff. They've been through
Speaker 4: financial downturns, they've been through you know, times when you
Speaker 4: know investment dollars are short or interest rates are high,
Speaker 4: or you know, they know how to lead or to
Speaker 4: adapt to the circumstances in just the same way that
Speaker 4: old wolves or matriarchal elephants know what to do when
Speaker 4: there's no water.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right, there is a certain a certain
Speaker 2: thing that happens for you were saying. And men men,
Speaker 2: you know, usually it's when they're up closer to sixty
Speaker 2: that men start to be overlooked. Let's say for women,
Speaker 2: you know, we're like forty five. I mean, it's the
Speaker 2: new kind of thing at forty five. I hear men
Speaker 2: say I like dating older women thirty five. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: that's an holler. A woman is thirty five to forty
Speaker 2: I'm like.
Speaker 3: Laughing my ass off.
Speaker 2: So the idea that you know over forty five, and
Speaker 2: we could say fertility cues and whatever start to wane
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm going to be sixty four this year.
Speaker 2: I'm actually living my best life of several decades, and
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm about to do my best work ever.
Speaker 2: That's how I'm feeling now. Of course, if you buy
Speaker 2: into your aging and you stop having passion and you
Speaker 2: stop doing anything or whatever, then yeah, you're right, you
Speaker 2: are going to decline in lots of ways. But if
Speaker 2: you believe that age is just a thing, and you
Speaker 2: can take all those that wisdom and all the other
Speaker 2: experience and start ramping that up in a new way,
Speaker 2: there are studies that show you do your best work
Speaker 2: between sixty and eighty if you are literally still tuned in,
Speaker 2: dialed up. And then when it comes to tech stuff,
Speaker 2: you said, we can learn tech.
Speaker 3: I have been involved in tech for a long time.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking about AI and consciousness. I'm in the front
Speaker 2: of that whole thing. It doesn't mean because I'm older,
Speaker 2: you know, I can't learn things or do new things
Speaker 2: or whatever else.
Speaker 3: But that's a mindset.
Speaker 2: However, dating, sex, attraction, all of those things. It's very
Speaker 2: interesting to be older in those spaces. And if you're married,
Speaker 2: you know, and you roll into your fifties and sixties,
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully you picked your mate not just based
Speaker 2: on attraction, because like stuff's gonna change, man, stuff is
Speaker 2: starting to go south, Like things are different. My body
Speaker 2: is the least interesting thing about me at this age,
Speaker 2: Like definitely, I would just say that that is like
Speaker 2: clear and so if I'm trading commodities on my looks
Speaker 2: in my body, I'm in trouble. But the other stuff
Speaker 2: that picks up, the other things where you don't care
Speaker 2: as much about what people think, that you've leaned into
Speaker 2: those things that make you interesting, that you're not a
Speaker 2: pologetic anymore. I wrote a post on Facebook dating over sixty.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've just had four million views on my
Speaker 2: Facebook post. By the wait, guys, if you're not checking
Speaker 2: out my Facebook, you should be jumping in there. But
Speaker 2: been writing about casual sex and all these different things.
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I'm like literally on fire in
Speaker 2: my life in a way that I've never been no
Speaker 2: matter what.
Speaker 3: So in the wolf Pack, we hear.
Speaker 4: That the old wolves are there, and you know what,
Speaker 4: there's a picture that I'm sure all you guys have
Speaker 4: seen that it's like a long line of wolves and
Speaker 4: it's like the oldest wolf. And this is so tiring
Speaker 4: for me because I know exactly the picture because it's
Speaker 4: the druids. It's actually I'm going to talk about this
Speaker 4: pack in my Ted talk but tucks ucks ed X. Sorry,
Speaker 4: thank you ted X talk. But the thing about the
Speaker 4: picture is that it's got like arrow's pointing like the
Speaker 4: oldest wolve's lead and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: No they don't. That isn't how it works. Wolves are
Speaker 1: smarter than that.
Speaker 4: Why would you tie out the animals that are already
Speaker 4: the least robust, you know, but you know, wolves, wolves
Speaker 4: are just too smart for that kind of foolishness, right,
Speaker 4: Like it's just silliness. You know, wolves take turns breaking
Speaker 4: trail in deep snow because it's exhausting. It's way easier
Speaker 4: to take turns. They're all about efficiency.
Speaker 3: Like drafting on a bike.
Speaker 4: Right, it's exactly the same thing. It's exactly the same thing.
Speaker 4: But you know, I mean think about think about you know,
Speaker 4: if we go to military for a minute, right, you know,
Speaker 4: you don't put your general out there to get you know,
Speaker 4: on the firing line. The general's back there calling the shots, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know where we need to go, right, I know
Speaker 4: I know where the enemy is weak. I know where
Speaker 4: food is I need you know, right, and there's there's
Speaker 4: clear and now we know we know that there's clearly
Speaker 4: huge value in.
Speaker 1: That collected cultural knowledge in wolves, and I would like
Speaker 1: to think in people. I mean, you know, I find
Speaker 1: that season right, there's a term seasoned executive.
Speaker 4: Right, you know what that means. It doesn't mean you're
Speaker 4: spiced appropriately. It means you've seen some shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And so we're taking these wolves that are smart, or
Speaker 2: these wolves that are smart because of experience, they're seasoned,
Speaker 2: they've been through the stuff, they've they're able to guide
Speaker 2: the rest of the pack into a better space.
Speaker 3: Leaders that are seasoned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what that we do in people
Speaker 2: that we don't do in wolves. And the reason that
Speaker 2: seasoned leaders are replaced because it costs more.
Speaker 1: That's true, right, I'm expensive, right, Like.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So what expense does an older wolf have on
Speaker 2: a pack, if at all, if that's even been studied, because.
Speaker 4: It certainly they've looked at it, and you would call
Speaker 4: that carrying cost, right, And the carrying cost is you know,
Speaker 4: I mean every every wolf is a mouth to feed.
Speaker 4: Every wolf needs you know, three and a half four
Speaker 4: pounds of meat on average a day, right, I'm meaning.
Speaker 2: Half of that as a carnivore. Carnivore, I'm meaning about
Speaker 2: half of that a day.
Speaker 4: And I so and to be fair, like, we feed
Speaker 4: our animals around two and a half pounds a day.
Speaker 4: But the thing is that when you look at the numbers,
Speaker 4: they're not expending all these calories to.
Speaker 2: Get They're not hunting yet, exactly right, and so.
Speaker 4: We we adjust, right, but we know and I got
Speaker 4: into a very embarrassed you know, one of those being wrong.
Speaker 4: I got into a very embarrassing argument with a fellow
Speaker 4: biologist about how much wolves need to eat.
Speaker 1: And when I was early in my career.
Speaker 4: You know, like I've been feeding wolves for you know,
Speaker 4: ten years, and he was like, yeah, wild wolves feed
Speaker 4: themselves galeries to do it, buddy, it's very humble.
Speaker 1: I'm still embarrassed. You It's one of those things I
Speaker 1: look back.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, God, I can't believe I did that, right, Like,
Speaker 4: I didn't know what I didn't know I was, you know,
Speaker 4: I was an expert in you know, this tiny little
Speaker 4: wedge that he didn't give.
Speaker 1: A shit about.
Speaker 2: So what is the carrying cost?
Speaker 4: That is, basically, so the caring cost is that they
Speaker 4: may not be the most effective hunters. They still need
Speaker 4: to be fed, they may even need to be helped, right,
Speaker 4: they're not, but their wisdom in knowing where the food
Speaker 4: is is way more valuable than the cost to that group.
Speaker 4: And oftentimes even even though they could be displaced, right,
Speaker 4: we were just I was just mentioning, you know, and
Speaker 4: ultiple talk about an animal that's arguably the most famous
Speaker 4: alpha wolf in history, Wolf twenty one, and Wolf twenty one,
Speaker 4: even when he was very old, he was still even
Speaker 4: though he was no longer the breeding male in his pack,
Speaker 4: so no longer technically the alpha wolf in biological nomenclature,
Speaker 4: he was still unquestionably the leader.
Speaker 2: And so being the leader once again the whole wisdom,
Speaker 2: the age, the experience and things like that. Now, if
Speaker 2: you know, in our culture, just because you're older doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you have experience or wisdom.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of old idiots.
Speaker 2: You said that, Okay, I love that. Though there are
Speaker 2: a lot of old idiots. So I think what we
Speaker 2: don't want to be is those idiots. And also just
Speaker 2: stop blaming age. The thing that I'm really tired to
Speaker 2: hear is people use age as the reason for whatever. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm just getting older. Now. Look, doctors play into that part.
Speaker 2: I'll say this right now. I've gone to a doctor
Speaker 2: and said I have X, Y and Z and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: you're getting older.
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck that.
Speaker 2: I literally said that.
Speaker 3: Fuck that.
Speaker 1: You and I have had some similar conversations. Give me a.
Speaker 3: Different explanation for what this could be the same with fat.
Speaker 3: Just because you have.
Speaker 2: Fat on your body doesn't make everything about your fucking fat.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, uh yeah, so all of these kind of things.
Speaker 2: We have to, I believe, fight for our bit to
Speaker 2: be vital, even if your body's going south.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You and I are ex athletes. I was an extreme athlete. Man,
Speaker 2: I've been beat test shit.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know.
Speaker 2: So I've had it, thirty nine broken bones, fifteen dislocations,
Speaker 2: I've got thirty four surgical scars.
Speaker 3: I've been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in that there too, and that's an unfortunate.
Speaker 2: And I yet I refuse to just say well that's
Speaker 2: because and instead say what can I do instead? And
Speaker 2: so that's that's that resilience. But part of it is
Speaker 2: because my experience has shown me that just because I'm
Speaker 2: told this doesn't mean I have to own this.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So three four incurable illnesses, I've cured them. I'm working
Speaker 2: on my fifth impossible to heal peripheral level five peripheral neuropathy.
Speaker 2: Guess what my feet hurt the other day. Guess what
Speaker 2: that means? I felt them. I haven't felt them in
Speaker 2: a decade.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and we're ware there too. We discussed that earlier, exactly, So.
Speaker 2: I think I think that experience, if you lean into
Speaker 2: that resilience, if you lean into the intelligence that hopefully
Speaker 2: you've built over the years. Once again, your quote unquote
Speaker 2: desirability may not be that you are the best hunter.
Speaker 3: It may not be that you look the best you
Speaker 3: could look.
Speaker 2: But what it does mean is that experience, the wisdom,
Speaker 2: the things you gain, but most importantly, the things you
Speaker 2: let go of as you season, is what starts to
Speaker 2: make you more interesting, more attractive in a different way,
Speaker 2: and definitely a better potential partner and mate when you
Speaker 2: were young and dumb.
Speaker 4: I think competent I mean, for me, I think competence
Speaker 4: and efficiency are really sexy.
Speaker 1: I think they are really appealing.
Speaker 4: And I mean my wife and I for example, like
Speaker 4: you know, I mean thirty years ago, I think we
Speaker 4: invested time in having certain, you know, stylish wardrobes.
Speaker 1: Right now, we have uniforms.
Speaker 4: We wake up wear the same shit every single I
Speaker 4: have five pairs of the same pants. In fact, the
Speaker 4: other day, as I was explaining to my wife, She's like.
Speaker 1: Why why have so many of those?
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, they're not the same really, like this
Speaker 4: is for this weather, and this is for when it's
Speaker 4: this much warmer, and they're all the same, right, they
Speaker 4: look exactly the same on the outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, different purpose. And that's efficiency for me.
Speaker 4: I never have to think about what I'm gonna wear
Speaker 4: in the morning because I'm wearing the same thing. I asked, Alexa,
Speaker 4: what's the temperature, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just went to that.
Speaker 2: Recently, people have been asking me in the last year
Speaker 2: and a half, do you ever wear a different shirt?
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, actually I have four of these different colors.
Speaker 2: But literally, I'm working on the minimalist uniform. I get up,
Speaker 2: I don't waste time wondering what I'm going to wear.
Speaker 1: Steve's jobs pioneered that right. I mean, but men, that's.
Speaker 2: Cool, Like men have been doing that for a long
Speaker 2: time and it's okay, but still women get talked about.
Speaker 2: So what I've done is I have an assortment of
Speaker 2: necklaces over here, so literally, and I want to change
Speaker 2: my look. There you go and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: the right look different.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I like it.
Speaker 2: Efficiency and competence is what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Is that maybe when you.
Speaker 4: Say you know how to do something, I love a
Speaker 4: god no know how to do it like we is funny.
Speaker 4: The other day we were drive. We were driving. We'd
Speaker 4: gone to run an air and kind of off the
Speaker 4: mountain and we were coming back and my wife was like, oh,
Speaker 4: let's take this back road so we can take the
Speaker 4: what we had one of the wolves in the car
Speaker 4: and and so she could go swim in the river.
Speaker 4: So we're taking this back road and my wife is
Speaker 4: always driving. She drives, I manage animals. She's she she
Speaker 4: likes the long she she would have been a great
Speaker 4: long haul trucker. She loves to just get It's funny
Speaker 4: because she's she's an Asian lady, right, I was. Whatever
Speaker 4: she screws up, we attributed to Asian, you know, being
Speaker 4: an Asian driver. But the reality is she's super competent.
Speaker 4: She can drive trucks and pull trailers and all this shit.
Speaker 4: But so we get a flat and it's in a
Speaker 4: bad place. I mean, we're like on this hairpin road
Speaker 4: with nowhere the flat where it's not safe to like
Speaker 4: do anything, And and she's starting to get stressed out,
Speaker 4: and she's like, call Triple A. And I'm like, do
Speaker 4: you want me to get the sad phone where there's
Speaker 4: no service?
Speaker 3: Like, okay, the smoke, the bad signal?
Speaker 4: Right, I'm like and and and I'm like, and she'd
Speaker 4: never seen me have to do this, Like, in all
Speaker 4: the decades have been together, we'd never gotten one of
Speaker 4: these situations. But when you grow up on a ranch,
Speaker 4: you get any situations on the daily. And and so
Speaker 4: I'm like, I just just get out the car so
Speaker 4: I can get us to a place where I can
Speaker 4: set the vehicle and do the work. And she she's
Speaker 4: a little you know, irritated and concerned and you know,
Speaker 4: pushing to get to a place with a signal. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, I got this, honey, I got this. And yeah,
Speaker 4: twenty minutes later, we were back on the road because
Speaker 4: I actually when I say now how to do and
Speaker 4: I tell her all the time, I'm like dab after
Speaker 4: twenty three years. When I say I know how to
Speaker 4: do something, I've got it.
Speaker 1: How to do it? Right? So just and that's I
Speaker 1: mean that.
Speaker 4: And if you were on a date, you have you
Speaker 4: have a great, great opportunity to prove you're awesome, right,
Speaker 4: but don't. But but don't be the guy that gets
Speaker 4: trapped under your own vehicle because you don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Go is not sexy. You will not get a second date.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got this.
Speaker 2: I got this, and it's clear that you don't have that.
Speaker 2: It's sexier to to call triple air.
Speaker 1: Say hey, let's call triple hand.
Speaker 4: Let's go on a walk, let's turn this into a
Speaker 4: picnic while we wait, and you know, be adaptable because
Speaker 4: adaptability is sexy, and competence is sexy. Incompetence and failure
Speaker 4: to adapt is just dumb. And that that girl's already
Speaker 4: texting or friends about you right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely so I would say the same thing.
Speaker 1: So I like that.
Speaker 3: So, guys, you heard that.
Speaker 2: You when you're aging out of the whatever the attraction
Speaker 2: zone or whatever the hell, aging is you understand that
Speaker 2: you have more assets than your six pack or whatever
Speaker 2: it is you thought you had or you know. And
Speaker 2: life is kinder with men that are older in a
Speaker 2: lot of regards because you know, people say, oh it's sexy,
Speaker 2: they got the beer, the gray and the whatever. Men
Speaker 2: tend to look wiser, more experienced, older. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that goes along with that. But if you're incompetent,
Speaker 2: or you do you are, you aren't using your skill set. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's the thing. You aren't using your skill set. We
Speaker 2: used to say there was three types of men. The
Speaker 2: man that can afford to call somebody, can afford to
Speaker 2: get it fixed, the man that can fix anything, and
Speaker 2: the dumb ass guy.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: You know, learn something, improve your skill set. If you're
Speaker 2: taking care of a woman.
Speaker 3: What does that mean.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you have to know everything and just
Speaker 2: know when you don't know something, either go learn it
Speaker 2: or don't claim you do. Because yes, you're right, that
Speaker 2: is very unsexy for women. I want men to consider
Speaker 2: this as a woman that's out in the day, as
Speaker 2: I'm single and out in the dating world, I will
Speaker 2: say that we have to steal ourselves if you don't
Speaker 2: go read my post on what It's like like. Most
Speaker 2: people are saying that was a really great post to read,
Speaker 2: you know, dating after sixty and knowing full well that
Speaker 2: I don't bring the attraction that I used to bring,
Speaker 2: and looking across from a man who's already decided that
Speaker 2: I must be dried up, not interested in sex, you
Speaker 2: know whatever, that most of us that are still interested
Speaker 2: in sex at this age are going to be way
Speaker 2: hotter than we ever were at a younger age. I'm
Speaker 2: just going to tell you that right now, you probably
Speaker 2: don't stand a lot of a chance in that inferno.
Speaker 2: Because if we've made it this far and we are
Speaker 2: happy with ourselves, and we feel competent and excited about life,
Speaker 2: and we're on fire, we're on more fire than we
Speaker 2: ever were when we were worried about our ass or
Speaker 2: our cellulate or anything else that we were worried about,
Speaker 2: because we are only worried about right now feeling everything
Speaker 2: we can. I'm going to say that again, our concern
Speaker 2: is feeling everything we can without compromise. So I'm just
Speaker 2: saying you need to think about these things a little different,
Speaker 2: all of us, all of us, if we're running our vitality.
Speaker 2: If we're claiming that age isn't something that is taking
Speaker 2: us out of the world. We have so much more
Speaker 2: to offer than I ever did in my twenties and
Speaker 2: my thirties and potentially even my forties where I am now.
Speaker 2: So I think we're all going to age, we should
Speaker 2: start considering how we want to do that, and so
Speaker 2: we have the value of these things. Like in an apocalypse,
Speaker 2: maybe you want me, I fly helicopters, shoot guns. I'm
Speaker 2: a badass.
Speaker 3: You want you know what. I can't run.
Speaker 2: I can't run anymore. So no, you all are going
Speaker 2: to carry me, but I guarantee you're going to protect
Speaker 2: me because I will be the one that helps us
Speaker 2: figure out how to die.
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that. People tell me all the time.
Speaker 1: They're like, I want to be at your place in
Speaker 1: the apocalypse.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, we're going to go to a Walmart
Speaker 4: distribution center because that's where you want to be in
Speaker 4: a pocket.
Speaker 3: Right, exactly right.
Speaker 2: I always wondered why in these shows that these people
Speaker 2: doing this dumb ass shit and not getting into the
Speaker 2: stadium or the Walmart distribution center or something like that.
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? People anyway, So.
Speaker 1: I actually know where those are on the map.
Speaker 2: Right. See, Okay, this is your takeaway everybody from this episode.
Speaker 2: Find your Walmart distribution centers. Mark them in your phone.
Speaker 1: So that's what you got to take over, right.
Speaker 2: Mark them not on your phone, because your phone's not
Speaker 2: going to work. Mark them in a piece of paper
Speaker 2: you keep in your wallet or whatever in your go bag.
Speaker 3: Just saying.
Speaker 2: And if you see the guy heading down the street
Speaker 2: with the wolves all following, you know who it is.
Speaker 3: It's Oliver.
Speaker 2: We're coming back for another episode.
Speaker 3: See in a moment.