WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:03.080 Welcome to men, sex and Tundra. 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.799 Discover where your parents, porn and religion never taught you 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.439 about being a man and having extraordinary sex. Get ready 4 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:13.119 to have your mind blown and your world rocked. 5 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:18.359 Okay, we are back. 6 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:20.440 I still have Oliver with me, and we just have 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:22.960 you know, so I don't know most of you guys probably 8 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.120 don't know this. Maybe I've said it on a different episode. 9 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:27.079 But what I do is I usually get a guest in. 10 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.160 We usually book out two hours and we pick four 11 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.399 topics and then we kind of roll through this. So 12 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:34.039 I always say we'll be back in a minute, because 13 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:37.640 literally I'm hitting record off talking and talking to Oliver, 14 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:40.759 who's clearly passionate about. 15 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:41.399 All of these subjects. 16 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:44.079 He's like, I love to info dump on the subject 17 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:44.840 we're passionate about. 18 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:45.640 We just go crazy. 19 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:48.399 So some of the things that we talk about in between, 20 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:53.520 just those like few minutes even in between, become either 21 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.799 fodder for the next one or something that's super interesting. 22 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:01.640 And what we want to talk about this time is 23 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:06.159 the idea of aging. Of course we're going to relate 24 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:10.239 it to wolves as well, but we're a society that 25 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:13.959 really values youth, and this is the other thing. You'll 26 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:18.239 hear these guys talking about the idea of high value, 27 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.159 the idea of you know, oh, the guys should be 28 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:25.040 like looking. You know, he's only interested in those those 29 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:29.040 fertility cues, and you know, all of these things, and 30 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:32.519 the whole idea of most of these guys who think 31 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:36.680 they're alpha really to me and I can't say the word. 32 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:39.239 I keep trying to say the right word, but basically 33 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:43.439 they're trying to make the women I think really be 34 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:46.719 their daughters. Like the idea of you know, I can 35 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:51.879 teach them everything. They can't make decisions without me. They're 36 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:54.879 like so soft and like everything's so soft and whatever, 37 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.159 and I'm just leaning up to my big man. You know, 38 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:01.200 these ideas are put that along with everybody's shaving all 39 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.239 their pussy hair off for the last however long, and 40 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:07.719 we're starting to look a little bit like huh yeah, anyway, 41 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:12.680 So where does it put those of us that are 42 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:18.719 aging out of the mainstream everybody's looking at now, Look, 43 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.639 men take a lot longer to age out. Men in 44 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:24.520 their forties and forty five. I think forty forty to 45 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:28.520 fifty is when they start looking really hot, like you know, 46 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.199 that's they look like men. They've like grown into the 47 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:35.400 man experience. And so that is a thing. I'm somebody 48 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:39.599 who dates fifteen years younger, which is always surprised everybody, 49 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:44.840 but I typically date younger, and I still think you, yeah, 50 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:47.439 so sorry, and your wife is happy about that too. 51 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:51.240 So so that but the idea that you know, and 52 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.280 I'm saying, I'm shallowing that way right, Like I'm literally 53 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:58.280 telling you, here's this age thing, and I tend to 54 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.919 date younger, and it's an entergy jetic equation, not a 55 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:06.520 looks equation. But I've changed that recently. I literally purposely 56 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:11.919 changed that because I realized how shallow that is in 57 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:16.039 a sense of both energetically, physically, lots of being met, 58 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:20.520 like we have wisdom. There's a thing about being older 59 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:25.759 that really is hotter, but we don't talk about that 60 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:26.479 in society. 61 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:27.680 We don't. 62 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:29.960 We covet youth. Well, that's what we're all about. So 63 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:33.520 let's jump into some like you know what in the 64 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:37.800 wolf pack and the wolf family groups, are they automatically 65 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.120 like I would imagine people think that, oh, the old 66 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.080 the older wolf is like singing behind. 67 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:43.120 They're leaving it behind. 68 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.319 So like somebody's got to take it out and just 69 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:47.400 like make sure that the weak link is gone. 70 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:53.719 So let's talk about that, because it's as we've mentioned, 71 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:58.680 I've I think it's reasonable to say that there's very few, 72 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.719 if anybody, who spend as much time in direct contact 73 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:03.840 with these animals as me. I mean, even the best 74 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:07.599 biologists in the field are, you know, getting occasional glimpses 75 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.439 of the animals. I walk out my door right and 76 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:12.879 we are set up in a way that our animals. 77 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.000 You know, certainly captive animals are different than while wild, 78 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:19.000 free living animals, but we do everything we can to 79 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:22.639 give our animals the opportunity to exercise as much of 80 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:26.160 their wild behaviors and inclinations as possible so that we 81 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:28.920 get to see that I'm kind of living my own experiment. 82 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.519 And as we mentioned before, you know that my oldest 83 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:37.560 animal is still the one everybody defers to. And people 84 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:40.879 might say, oh, well, you know, that's an artificial circumstance. 85 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.759 Your animals are captive, they're being cared for, or they 86 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:44.560 don't have to perform. 87 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.279 But here's what we've learned recently, and I think this 88 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:52.319 is to me, this was so fascinating because there's a 89 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.879 lot of wolf research being conducted around the world, and 90 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.839 I read all of it very rarely as a study 91 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.439 where I've just amazed and this and again had to 92 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.040 the research coming out of the Yellstone Wolf Project over 93 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.079 the last twenty years or. 94 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:08.639 So has been really important. 95 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.439 But in the last decade there's been a couple of 96 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:16.040 young scientists that have just been transformational in our understanding 97 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:19.560 of wolf dynamics. And so one of the studies done 98 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:26.199 principally by cur Cassidy looked at wolf conflict in the park. 99 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:30.720 There are around one hundred wolves. 100 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.279 That are in the pretty much in the principal area 101 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.439 of Yellowstone National Park. For those of that aren't familiar 102 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:40.079 with the park, it exists in three states, Montana, Idaho, 103 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:44.000 and Wyoming, and around the park there's there's hunting and 104 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.319 so wolves that step out of this secured boundary can 105 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:46.920 be hunted. 106 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.160 But what they were looking at was, as we mentioned, wolves. 107 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:55.439 Fight with other wolves over resources, over territorial boundaries, and 108 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.639 there are times when wolves actually make a it appears 109 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.000 that they decide to go to wolf like you will 110 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.519 actually see the wolves come charging over a ridge into 111 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:08.639 another pack's territory with the obvious intent of taking it over, 112 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:15.399 and so what doctor, she's now a doctor. Congratulations Kia. 113 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.560 What she looked at was two things, what were the 114 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:27.199 uh pack composition characteristics that led to the decision to 115 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:32.839 engage and who was going to win? And she created 116 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:38.560 a matrix that was really interesting and sort of unsurprisingly. 117 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.639 The first part was unsurprising, which was that whatever pack 118 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:46.759 had more of what she considered prime age males, which 119 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:50.519 your age two to five, like, more likely to get 120 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:55.879 into fights, and whatever pack had an advantage in that 121 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:01.720 age cohort was more likely to prevail. It makes sense, 122 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:06.040 not very surprising. Accept and this is the thing that 123 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:11.199 was so amazing. Accept that. And so what she did 124 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:14.959 is she assigned weights, like numerical weights to those numbers, 125 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.199 and she could just add up those numbers and say, okay, 126 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:20.800 this is you know, a pack with a plus two 127 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:23.480 is more likely to get in the fight, and a 128 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:25.519 pack with a plus two is more likely to win. 129 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:26.120 Right. 130 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.319 Essentially, it was something almost as simple as that. But 131 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:37.199 what she discovered was that, regardless of sex, what whenever 132 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:41.879 a pack had an animal over eight years old, which 133 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.600 is a very rare wolf, that is an old wolf, 134 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:48.319 even in populations that aren't hunted. Right, life expectancy in 135 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.160 the wild is two to five. It's hard to be 136 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:52.800 a wolf though, even though in captivity a wolf can 137 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:55.360 live to be sixteen seventeen years old, that's not unusual, 138 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.439 so they could live longer, but nature kills them. 139 00:07:58.480 --> 00:07:58.639 Right. 140 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:02.040 The oldest wolves in the Yellowstone that they've documented, in fact, 141 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:06.720 until recently, a wolf I don't remember her numeric designation 142 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:09.240 off the top of my head. She was thirteen and 143 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.680 had one eye when she passed, and she was still 144 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:12.639 leading her family. 145 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:13.920 And there was. 146 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.720 Another one a few years ago, twelve females, both females. 147 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:23.480 But what she found was that a eight year old 148 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.000 wolf of either sex was worth two. So it was 149 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:31.519 like a plus four in her equation. And it's not 150 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.559 because they were the best fighters. It's not because they 151 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:41.200 were the most aggressive. It's because they knew what to do, wisdom, strategy, experience, 152 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.480 And I think that that's a very important thing to keep. 153 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:46.360 In mind in life, right. 154 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.480 I mean, you and I were discussing, you know, we 155 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:50.639 get to an age where you start to you know, 156 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:51.960 be aged out. 157 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:56.120 Of jobs of you know, and you know. 158 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:01.120 And companies are losing opportunity, huge opportunity because people have wisdom, 159 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.480 and wisdom transcend. You can learn new stuff about tech, right, 160 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.320 but you don't know what you don't know. Yeah, if 161 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.519 you're young and a lot of you know, more senior leaders, 162 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:15.440 more senior people, they've seen this stuff. They've been through 163 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.480 financial downturns, they've been through you know, times when you 164 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.440 know investment dollars are short or interest rates are high, 165 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:26.600 or you know, they know how to lead or to 166 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.919 adapt to the circumstances in just the same way that 167 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.200 old wolves or matriarchal elephants know what to do when 168 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:35.919 there's no water. 169 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:37.919 Yeah. 170 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:40.799 Yeah, and you're right, there is a certain a certain 171 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:42.919 thing that happens for you were saying. And men men, 172 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.600 you know, usually it's when they're up closer to sixty 173 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.840 that men start to be overlooked. Let's say for women, 174 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.840 you know, we're like forty five. I mean, it's the 175 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:56.279 new kind of thing at forty five. I hear men 176 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:00.480 say I like dating older women thirty five. I'm like, dude, 177 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.159 that's an holler. A woman is thirty five to forty 178 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:03.600 I'm like. 179 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:04.639 Laughing my ass off. 180 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.240 So the idea that you know over forty five, and 181 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.519 we could say fertility cues and whatever start to wane 182 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:13.120 or whatever. 183 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:17.320 But you know, I'm going to be sixty four this year. 184 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:22.639 I'm actually living my best life of several decades, and 185 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.360 I feel like I'm about to do my best work ever. 186 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:28.200 That's how I'm feeling now. Of course, if you buy 187 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:33.360 into your aging and you stop having passion and you 188 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.519 stop doing anything or whatever, then yeah, you're right, you 189 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:40.120 are going to decline in lots of ways. But if 190 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:42.559 you believe that age is just a thing, and you 191 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.080 can take all those that wisdom and all the other 192 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:47.919 experience and start ramping that up in a new way, 193 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:51.399 there are studies that show you do your best work 194 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:54.679 between sixty and eighty if you are literally still tuned in, 195 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:57.399 dialed up. And then when it comes to tech stuff, 196 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:58.440 you said, we can learn tech. 197 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.279 I have been involved in tech for a long time. 198 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.000 I'm speaking about AI and consciousness. I'm in the front 199 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.320 of that whole thing. It doesn't mean because I'm older, 200 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:12.960 you know, I can't learn things or do new things 201 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:13.720 or whatever else. 202 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:14.919 But that's a mindset. 203 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:21.559 However, dating, sex, attraction, all of those things. It's very 204 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:26.919 interesting to be older in those spaces. And if you're married, 205 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:29.559 you know, and you roll into your fifties and sixties, 206 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.600 you know, hopefully you picked your mate not just based 207 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:36.399 on attraction, because like stuff's gonna change, man, stuff is 208 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:39.600 starting to go south, Like things are different. My body 209 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:42.399 is the least interesting thing about me at this age, 210 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:44.679 Like definitely, I would just say that that is like 211 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:49.000 clear and so if I'm trading commodities on my looks 212 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.960 in my body, I'm in trouble. But the other stuff 213 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:55.200 that picks up, the other things where you don't care 214 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:57.879 as much about what people think, that you've leaned into 215 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.039 those things that make you interesting, that you're not a 216 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:04.000 pologetic anymore. I wrote a post on Facebook dating over sixty. 217 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:06.320 I mean, I've just had four million views on my 218 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:09.080 Facebook post. By the wait, guys, if you're not checking 219 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.600 out my Facebook, you should be jumping in there. But 220 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.000 been writing about casual sex and all these different things. 221 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:20.240 I feel like, yeah, I'm like literally on fire in 222 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.200 my life in a way that I've never been no 223 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:22.639 matter what. 224 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:24.919 So in the wolf Pack, we hear. 225 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.879 That the old wolves are there, and you know what, 226 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:30.679 there's a picture that I'm sure all you guys have 227 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:33.960 seen that it's like a long line of wolves and 228 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:39.360 it's like the oldest wolf. And this is so tiring 229 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.679 for me because I know exactly the picture because it's 230 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:44.919 the druids. It's actually I'm going to talk about this 231 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:50.440 pack in my Ted talk but tucks ucks ed X. Sorry, 232 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:56.000 thank you ted X talk. But the thing about the 233 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.559 picture is that it's got like arrow's pointing like the 234 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:02.000 oldest wolve's lead and blah blah blah. 235 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:05.159 No they don't. That isn't how it works. Wolves are 236 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:06.080 smarter than that. 237 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:09.679 Why would you tie out the animals that are already 238 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:14.399 the least robust, you know, but you know, wolves, wolves 239 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.159 are just too smart for that kind of foolishness, right, 240 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.919 Like it's just silliness. You know, wolves take turns breaking 241 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.559 trail in deep snow because it's exhausting. It's way easier 242 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.360 to take turns. They're all about efficiency. 243 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:27.960 Like drafting on a bike. 244 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.600 Right, it's exactly the same thing. It's exactly the same thing. 245 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.159 But you know, I mean think about think about you know, 246 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:38.080 if we go to military for a minute, right, you know, 247 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:41.960 you don't put your general out there to get you know, 248 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.720 on the firing line. The general's back there calling the shots, like, yeah, 249 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:49.120 I know where we need to go, right, I know 250 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.080 I know where the enemy is weak. I know where 251 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:55.120 food is I need you know, right, and there's there's 252 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.840 clear and now we know we know that there's clearly 253 00:13:58.360 --> 00:13:59.559 huge value in. 254 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.440 That collected cultural knowledge in wolves, and I would like 255 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.200 to think in people. I mean, you know, I find 256 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.559 that season right, there's a term seasoned executive. 257 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.639 Right, you know what that means. It doesn't mean you're 258 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.720 spiced appropriately. It means you've seen some shit. 259 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.080 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 260 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.279 And so we're taking these wolves that are smart, or 261 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.399 these wolves that are smart because of experience, they're seasoned, 262 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.840 they've been through the stuff, they've they're able to guide 263 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.679 the rest of the pack into a better space. 264 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:33.720 Leaders that are seasoned. 265 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:36.879 Yeah, but you know what that we do in people 266 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:38.720 that we don't do in wolves. And the reason that 267 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:42.039 seasoned leaders are replaced because it costs more. 268 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:45.480 That's true, right, I'm expensive, right, Like. 269 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:49.759 Exactly, So what expense does an older wolf have on 270 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:53.159 a pack, if at all, if that's even been studied, because. 271 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:55.600 It certainly they've looked at it, and you would call 272 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:59.240 that carrying cost, right, And the carrying cost is you know, 273 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:02.039 I mean every every wolf is a mouth to feed. 274 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:04.399 Every wolf needs you know, three and a half four 275 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:08.519 pounds of meat on average a day, right, I'm meaning. 276 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.480 Half of that as a carnivore. Carnivore, I'm meaning about 277 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:12.159 half of that a day. 278 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:14.480 And I so and to be fair, like, we feed 279 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:17.159 our animals around two and a half pounds a day. 280 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:19.559 But the thing is that when you look at the numbers, 281 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:21.360 they're not expending all these calories to. 282 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:24.320 Get They're not hunting yet, exactly right, and so. 283 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:26.799 We we adjust, right, but we know and I got 284 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:29.080 into a very embarrassed you know, one of those being wrong. 285 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.919 I got into a very embarrassing argument with a fellow 286 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:33.639 biologist about how much wolves need to eat. 287 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.279 And when I was early in my career. 288 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:37.799 You know, like I've been feeding wolves for you know, 289 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:40.399 ten years, and he was like, yeah, wild wolves feed 290 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:44.879 themselves galeries to do it, buddy, it's very humble. 291 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:46.320 I'm still embarrassed. You It's one of those things I 292 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:46.840 look back. 293 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.960 And I'm like, God, I can't believe I did that, right, Like, 294 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:52.120 I didn't know what I didn't know I was, you know, 295 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.840 I was an expert in you know, this tiny little 296 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.000 wedge that he didn't give. 297 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:56.679 A shit about. 298 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:00.360 So what is the carrying cost? 299 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:02.159 That is, basically, so the caring cost is that they 300 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.960 may not be the most effective hunters. They still need 301 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.320 to be fed, they may even need to be helped, right, 302 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.159 they're not, but their wisdom in knowing where the food 303 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.960 is is way more valuable than the cost to that group. 304 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.519 And oftentimes even even though they could be displaced, right, 305 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:21.639 we were just I was just mentioning, you know, and 306 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:25.360 ultiple talk about an animal that's arguably the most famous 307 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.200 alpha wolf in history, Wolf twenty one, and Wolf twenty one, 308 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.799 even when he was very old, he was still even 309 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.879 though he was no longer the breeding male in his pack, 310 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:42.000 so no longer technically the alpha wolf in biological nomenclature, 311 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:44.279 he was still unquestionably the leader. 312 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:49.879 And so being the leader once again the whole wisdom, 313 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:53.679 the age, the experience and things like that. Now, if 314 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.000 you know, in our culture, just because you're older doesn't 315 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:59.039 mean you have experience or wisdom. 316 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:01.840 There's a lot of old idiots. 317 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:05.400 You said that, Okay, I love that. Though there are 318 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:07.319 a lot of old idiots. So I think what we 319 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:13.640 don't want to be is those idiots. And also just 320 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.799 stop blaming age. The thing that I'm really tired to 321 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:25.160 hear is people use age as the reason for whatever. Well, 322 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:28.839 I'm just getting older. Now. Look, doctors play into that part. 323 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.319 I'll say this right now. I've gone to a doctor 324 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:34.359 and said I have X, Y and Z and they're like, well, 325 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:35.039 you're getting older. 326 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:35.759 I'm like, fuck that. 327 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:36.759 I literally said that. 328 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:37.359 Fuck that. 329 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:40.759 You and I have had some similar conversations. Give me a. 330 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:45.039 Different explanation for what this could be the same with fat. 331 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:45.880 Just because you have. 332 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.839 Fat on your body doesn't make everything about your fucking fat. 333 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:49.920 You know. 334 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.200 It's like, uh yeah, so all of these kind of things. 335 00:17:54.680 --> 00:18:00.559 We have to, I believe, fight for our bit to 336 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:05.880 be vital, even if your body's going south. 337 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:06.680 Right. 338 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:09.240 You and I are ex athletes. I was an extreme athlete. Man, 339 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:10.200 I've been beat test shit. 340 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:10.720 I mean, I know. 341 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:14.960 So I've had it, thirty nine broken bones, fifteen dislocations, 342 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:16.519 I've got thirty four surgical scars. 343 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:17.720 I've been there. 344 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:21.960 Yeah, we're in that there too, and that's an unfortunate. 345 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:27.680 And I yet I refuse to just say well that's 346 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:32.599 because and instead say what can I do instead? And 347 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.640 so that's that's that resilience. But part of it is 348 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:39.079 because my experience has shown me that just because I'm 349 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:42.240 told this doesn't mean I have to own this. 350 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:43.480 That's right. 351 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:47.640 So three four incurable illnesses, I've cured them. I'm working 352 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.720 on my fifth impossible to heal peripheral level five peripheral neuropathy. 353 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:55.119 Guess what my feet hurt the other day. Guess what 354 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:58.200 that means? I felt them. I haven't felt them in 355 00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:58.720 a decade. 356 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:04.519 So yeah, and we're ware there too. We discussed that earlier, exactly, So. 357 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:09.880 I think I think that experience, if you lean into 358 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:13.599 that resilience, if you lean into the intelligence that hopefully 359 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:18.200 you've built over the years. Once again, your quote unquote 360 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:21.720 desirability may not be that you are the best hunter. 361 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:25.160 It may not be that you look the best you 362 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:25.640 could look. 363 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:29.359 But what it does mean is that experience, the wisdom, 364 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.000 the things you gain, but most importantly, the things you 365 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.519 let go of as you season, is what starts to 366 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:40.559 make you more interesting, more attractive in a different way, 367 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:46.000 and definitely a better potential partner and mate when you 368 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:47.799 were young and dumb. 369 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:52.119 I think competent I mean, for me, I think competence 370 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:54.359 and efficiency are really sexy. 371 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:56.200 I think they are really appealing. 372 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.519 And I mean my wife and I for example, like 373 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:01.640 you know, I mean thirty years ago, I think we 374 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.839 invested time in having certain, you know, stylish wardrobes. 375 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:06.160 Right now, we have uniforms. 376 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.799 We wake up wear the same shit every single I 377 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:10.799 have five pairs of the same pants. In fact, the 378 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:13.519 other day, as I was explaining to my wife, She's like. 379 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:15.039 Why why have so many of those? 380 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:16.720 I'm like, well, they're not the same really, like this 381 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:18.359 is for this weather, and this is for when it's 382 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:20.319 this much warmer, and they're all the same, right, they 383 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:21.880 look exactly the same on the outside. 384 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.680 Yeah, different purpose. And that's efficiency for me. 385 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:26.839 I never have to think about what I'm gonna wear 386 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:29.519 in the morning because I'm wearing the same thing. I asked, Alexa, 387 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:31.000 what's the temperature, and. 388 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:33.359 Yeah, I just went to that. 389 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:35.559 Recently, people have been asking me in the last year 390 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:38.240 and a half, do you ever wear a different shirt? 391 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:40.519 I'm like, yeah, actually I have four of these different colors. 392 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:44.319 But literally, I'm working on the minimalist uniform. I get up, 393 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:46.799 I don't waste time wondering what I'm going to wear. 394 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:51.880 Steve's jobs pioneered that right. I mean, but men, that's. 395 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.720 Cool, Like men have been doing that for a long 396 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:56.119 time and it's okay, but still women get talked about. 397 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.279 So what I've done is I have an assortment of 398 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:00.920 necklaces over here, so literally, and I want to change 399 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:05.039 my look. There you go and all of a sudden 400 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:06.599 the right look different. 401 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:08.079