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Speaker 1: Let's all start to what you want to presents. Off

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the bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert. Off

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Speaker 2: I got to come off the bitch.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob aber.

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Speaker 2: Yo and walkme in O TV one, O four five, ESPN,

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Ben Rouge, Happy Monday morning, Jake, Alandra and Tata, No Bob.

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You know when something happens over and over and over again,

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sometimes you wonder is it real? And T Bob text

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us yesterday so we were Look, we've been out. We've

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both been out for a full week spring break with

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the kiddos, and so went on a family get away

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to the beach tea Bop, I believe went to see

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The Grateful Dead again like his yearly Guys trip in

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Las Vegas. He writes us, yesterday, I'm on the beach,

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like actually on the beach. Was going to do the

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show remotely today, he says, You're not gonna believe it,

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but I have messed the flights up again. So I

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don't know when he's getting back to Baton Rouge. It

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is apparently not last night. Maybe he'll be back today,

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but we do have laundry and tte here with us. Guys?

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How was last week.

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Speaker 3: All at that one? Because I was out two of

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those days, so I'll.

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Speaker 4: Speak when fine, it was a it was a.

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Speaker 2: Well hey babe, head look fine.

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Speaker 4: Well it was just like different people every day. But

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we rolled with it.

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Speaker 3: We made it happen for Hodgepodge, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We made it happen.

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Speaker 5: No, But when tea Bob's like, you're not gonna believe this,

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I'm like, no, I absolutely believe this. I actually kind

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of prepare myself ahead of time that you're going to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, And he'd probably get mad if if I

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asked him this if he was here. But how many

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times has this been where he's been out for an

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extended period of time and the day he's supposed to

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come back, he's not back at least five every trip,

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but it's at.

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Speaker 4: At least five, I know free It was about this

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time last year, let me a Victoria or at a

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Sunday LSU baseball game. I am sitting there to Bob

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text this, hey guys, actually coming back Monday and not today.

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It was like Florida sundding it's Sunday afternoon to Bob,

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like you can't, I rather thou better. Last week, like

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when I was closing out the Thursday show, I was like,

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I don't know what Jake's schedule looks like, because like

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at the end of the week, you're going to be

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at the draft, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean I actually leave tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 4: I know. I was like, I said, I don't know

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Jake's schedule. I was like, for sure Bob is back there.

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Speaker 2: That is a.

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Speaker 3: I have to say. I still I feel like he knows.

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Speaker 2: But then it's like, oh yeah, then it weighs on

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him a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he just wants to stay an extra day

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and he just tells me, which.

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Speaker 2: Is fine, Yeah, give us, just tell us the extra day.

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So let us know the extra day because it changes

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our plans.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So we drove back late last night, got back from

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Panama City Beach, and we are here today, taite. I

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appreciate you holding it down last week. I mean on it.

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I'm not even joking about this part. I mean that

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it was a lot a lot going on last week.

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I mean tried to separate myself because I wasn't working

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from like all the news cycle a little bit, but

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it was so news heavy it was hard to escape.

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Speaker 4: I got to do some things that, you know, like

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some unfortunate with the some like I live reacted to

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the leak course so new us, which hit me because

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things I did not expect to go on last week,

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but we we managed it. I thought, I thought we

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handled it.

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Speaker 2: One of the coolest moments that I've ever had on

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a football field was me not playing. It was LSU

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Texas at Texas Sorry Landra at twenty nineteen, and I

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was there somehow, some way, I don't even remember how

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it happened, but I had two sideline passes for the game,

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like I had mine, and then somehow we got an

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extra and Katie was traveling to the game, which she

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and look as hard we got, you know, we got

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five kids, even at the time we had four, but

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she got away on that trip and we sat on

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the sidelines together for the entire game, and it was

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like me, Katie and Lee Corso like randomly sitting there

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watching the game together. Uh, and it was just yeah,

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core memory, cool memory. You're right, just an absolute legend.

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I mean, everybody's got a story of Lee Corso putting

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on like Mike the Tigers. Yeah head, you know somewhere

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they they've seen it, either home or away games, shout

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out Lee.

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Speaker 5: But I think we can all agree it was. Yeah,

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it was getting sad like.

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me and moves that we're talking about it after the show,

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and it was like, you know, last year there was

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a game, like, of course I couldn't make it for

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whatever reason. You know, it's like a hell thing. I

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didn't realize he wasn't there, And it's like, you know,

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it's one of those things where it's like I forgot

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he wasn't on the set because he's only been there,

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you know, ten to fifteen minutes at a time. But

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if you're espn like, you got to let him go

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when he wants to go, right, I mean, he's a legend.

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You can't just you can't force him out. But at

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the same time, like I appreciate that he's gonna be

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ninety August seventh. Yeah, like it's time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, ninety Yeah, that's a shout out that's up there.

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Speaker 2: Yees. Again, we all have memories of him, and you know,

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most going to be home games here. As he picks LSU,

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the crowd goes wild, puts on Mike Tiger's head, and so, yeah,

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hell of a career for Lee Corso there's a lot

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of players that are looking to start their career this week.

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think afternoon, like tbub now, I think I think we're

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going tomorrow afternoon, get a chance to catch up with

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every player that's going to be in attendance on Wednesday.

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gonna be cool. Certainly going to send some of that

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soundback Will Campbell, you know, any potential Saints draft d

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gonna send that soundback. So looking forward to that. I'll

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be there with EJ. And then Thursday Friday gonna be

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doing live shows from Green Bay reacting to the first

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and second round. And then for the first time ever

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for the Draft, I'll be on NFL Radio and we're

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doing the Grind we're doing third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and

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seventh round. Oh oh yeah, all the way through. There's

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no time on it. It's just you're going to go

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until the final pick until mister irrelevant. I'm excited, slash

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a little bit nervous because as y'all know that the

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draft can drag on. Yeah, and when that left tackle

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from South Dakota State gets picked, we got to be

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ready to go with some kind of a little nugget

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about that tackle from South Dakota State.

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Speaker 4: It's harder, obviously, but like it's probably a little bit

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more exciting. It's like the first round. Like you may

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not know if a guy is gonna go like eight

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or twelve, but you kind of got an idea of

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like who's going to go in the first round. Like

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's gonna be a lot of day so

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and a lot of people give me a hard time,

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But I have a draft binder. So I put together

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a binder and it's typically got like one hundred and

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fifty names in it. Because again, like I've never had

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really go this deep into the bag. I've done rounds

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one through three, never done the full draft, so it's

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gonna have to expand we're talking probably like three hundred players.

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So Gordy, I apologize. I'm using the Company Inc. Whenever

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I print said bind her out. But I gotta be

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ready to go.

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Speaker 3: You gotta do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't want to be there because I

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think it's Jason Horowitz who's the voice of the Raiders,

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me New Heisel, and then somebody else another NFL radio

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typical host, and so I'm the college guy, like I

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don't want them to throw to me in be like

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gotta have something for everybody. Yeah, so I apologize in

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advance for the ink that I'm going to use from

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the Company Printer. There another thing, like we talked about

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having a ton of news to get to last week

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Taylor and having plenty to talk about LSU baseball getting

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't But also, like you know as well

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So the funniest part a Landra's playing the recorded live read.

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and Lacy news. We reacted LSU baseball getting swept, and

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we reacted to LSU softball getting swept. That was the

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first that one on Monday. It was it was rough.

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Speaker 2: I know, I really did. Like I thought about you,

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I was like, man, what what? What a bad time

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to just leave Tate out there on an island. I

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mean a lot of news, none of it was good

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when it comes to LSU, and just a tough, tough

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but they did get a victory on the road in

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the SEC. Baseball does bounce back. We'll get to the

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Getting this thing started with a little LSU baseball. After

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a rough weekend a couple of weeks ago there on

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the planes where you get swept, as we talked about,

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you come back in the midweek, you win on Tuesday

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against McNeice, and then you win two of three against

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Alabama Thursday and Friday. You get the Dubs on Thursday

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it was eleven to six, on Friday four to three,

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and then you lose the last game of the series

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on Saturday seven to four. But go around the room,

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how do we feel now? All right? So depending on

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how you look at it, okay, because so you get swept,

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you win two of three. You could also say you're

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two and four in your last six SEC games. That

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doesn't feel great, although you know, winning a series against

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a ranked opponent still not going to be a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people were saying, oh, well, you had

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to sweep this series. I disagree with that. I don't

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think you had to sweep. You had to win the series.

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Thing for me comes down to Saturday. I appreciated the

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move of Jay not starting Chase Shores. He went with

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connor Ware on that third game instead. Is that who

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I would have went with? I don't know, but it

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was time to make a change at Sunday. The problem is,

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though we talked about it coming into the season, Oh

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Lsu might have three legitimate starters, you no longer have

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his starter on Sunday. I mean, you don't. Connor Ware

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went two innings, he gave up an earned run. That's fine,

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but you pull him after two put in Chase Shores

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two and two thirds, four runs, three earned runs, five strikeouts,

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two walks. Like, Chase Shores has a big problem right now.

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Whether it's starting, he comes out of the pen. We'll

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see if that was better. It wasn't. As a matter

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of fact, it was probably a little bit worse. Now,

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everybody outside of Shores was great. I mean, you went

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six pitchers after Chase only give up two runs combined.

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So like again, your bullpen was pretty good on the weekend.

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Like even on the Thursday game, what's his name, Kate

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Anderson gave up five runs and six innings. It was

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your bullpen that kept you in that game. So the

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last two weekends at SEC play, your bullpen's really been

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really good. It's it's been the starting pitching on the weekend.

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And I don't really think you have a Sunday starter

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at this point. I know a lot of people have said, Okay,

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what's that Cowen, and the opposite has been okay, well,

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he's so valuable to you out of the pen, do

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you want to start him on Sunday? But I mean

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Sunday looks iffy right now.

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Speaker 2: No, it certainly does, and we've talked about it. You know,

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what do you do there? Because you've got a couple

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of arms that have been dominant. But I think Jay

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shows us with this move that he is not going

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to move Evans r. Cowen into the starting rotation, at

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least not anytime soon. That's why he rolls somebody else

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out there on Sunday. And you saw, like Cason Evans

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comes in. You talked about the Thursday game and he

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comes in and gives you, you know, two innings. He

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only gives up one hit, only walks one, strikes out too,

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but he doesn't give up any runs, right, He gave

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you that opportunity. Remember he came into the game when

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you were down. And Jay goes to Hims not playing

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any games. He holds the four down until you come in. Look,

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Zach Cowen had to come in and get one batter out,

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but he was able to pitch again in this series, Landra,

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I know you've been pretty vocal about not putting Cowen

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or Evans into the starting rotation as well. It looks

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like Jay is again going to leave them right where

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they're at because they've been so valuable, and we could

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have a situation where on Sundays it turns into Johnny Houlstaff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's a good decision to keep

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your best arm out of the bullpen, and also with

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Cason Evans as well. But you're right, it might be

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Schmidt whenever he started versus McNeice. McNeese is a good team,

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by the way, it's not like a flipant whatever, but

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he had four strikeouts, held them to two runs. But

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I mean, it is like you really would have to

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do Johnny Holstaff sometimes probably, But again, your bullpen hasn't

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really been too much of the issue. Your issue has

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been leaving runners on base whenever your offense is what

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keeps you in the game. Sometimes, like when we lost Saturday,

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we left fourteen runners on base, and last weekend versus

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Auburn that was also the issue, and we talked about it.

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It started with Nichols, Like when you played Nichols, you

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left twelve runners on base that game. But I didn't

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really get to watch the games this weekend, so I

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don't have too much of a take on it. But

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whenever we played Auburn, like it was kind of deflating.

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But it wasn't like I was worried about the team.

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It was just an off weekend. Everybody has them. I

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mean Tennessee got run rolled by Texas A and M

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a couple of weeks ago, seventeen to zero. So I

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mean we're still third in the SEC, tied with Tennessee

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at twelve and six. With the records, I'm never like,

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I'm not that worried about this team.

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't get to watch watch LU up

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in Rhode Island.

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Speaker 3: Well I just didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to have my phone out at dinner,

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Like it felt a little disrespectful.

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Speaker 2: But really, if there was ever a place where you

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couldn't watch LSU baseball, Rhode Island feels like the one

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you could not.

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Speaker 5: No, and I went on this campus, so this is

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super off topic, but there was. We went to the Breakers,

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which is like one of those mansions that the Vanderbilts built,

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like way back.

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Speaker 3: In the day.

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Speaker 5: And by the mansion there's a university. It's called Salve Regina.

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It's like a Catholic university, and they had a baseball

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game going on, okay, and I was like.

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Speaker 3: Kind of peeking at it. But yeah, I don't know,

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off topic, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean college baseball. You're just trying to I

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hustle a little college baseball probably wasn't the same vibe.

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Lsu Bam in the boxes.

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Speaker 3: No, I know, and I'm so upset I got I

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missed it. But even Saturday I missed because I was

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flying back.

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Speaker 2: I know. So I feel the same way because I'm

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going to miss the big series coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because I'm going to be in Green.

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Speaker 2: Bay, Wisconsin. Yeah, I was definitely wanting to go check

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some of those games out. Uh oh. Friday, though, Anthony

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Sen continues to dominate. I know, he walks five guys,

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got into some hairy situations, but he strikes out twelve,

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only gives up one earned run. And then Zach Cowen

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comes in. He pitches three innings, He gives up four hits,

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two earned runs. But still what he gives you what

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Case and Evans gives you. I look, trust me when

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I say, like, I know there's a temptation to want

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to start, certainly Zach Cowen because he's a veteran player.

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Case Nevin's still freshman, which is just remarkable that he's

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doing what he's doing in the spots that he's doing it.

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But Zach Cowen does have starting experience. You've seen him. Hey,

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you know last year in the regional that Elsie was in,

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he was out there, so everybody knows he can do it.

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But I just think he's so valuable right now. And

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I was kind of the opposite a couple of weeks ago.

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But I think when you talk with Jay Johnson, when

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you see the ways formatting everything is like, we are

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going to have to go get game one, game two,

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and I know it is very thin margins, but that's

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the way that they are attacking you right now, and

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their hope wanting somebody to step up and take over

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Game three Sundays whatever ends up being. You know, you

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had like a slight hope maybe William Schmidt could be

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that guy. Again. I know he's a freshman, but he's

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so talented and he'll, like eventually he will be that guy,

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just not ready for that right now. He only goes

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two thirds of an inning on Game three, gives up

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two runs, both earned, walk three, two wild pitches. Again,

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incredibly talented player, going to be somebody that is on

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the mount on the weekends. Without a doubt starting next year,

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like he's gonna be there next year, but just doesn't

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have the feel of being ready in those big spots

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right now, which is okay, he's a true freshman.

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Speaker 4: The fact that he didn't get the start told me

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that he wasn't ready because this was the weekend to

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start him, right Like if Tennessee and Texas A and

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M back to back, you're not starting a freshman in

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game three against Tennessee or A and M for their

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first extended SEC action. That's not happening. So when he

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rolled Connor where out there you know, I was, I

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was one of the ones that was like, okay, you

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extended Schmidt. He threw three and a third in the

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midweek against McNeice. That's a good lineup, Like they hit

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over three hundred as a team. He did a good

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job there, Like maybe this is where you ease it man.

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The fact that he didn't tells me that it's not

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gonna be William Schmidt at least the next two weeks,

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starting on that Sunday, because after that you got South Carolina.

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It lightens up a little bit, like you're not starting

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him against Tennessee Area. Now that's not happening.

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Speaker 5: No, we kind of talked about this last week too,

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where like for someone like Schmidt you kind of have

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to start preparing him because once we get to the postseason,

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you're gonna have to go deep in that, yeah, into

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like and somebody like him's gonna have to start.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Will Helms last year gave you the game

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of his life, right, gave you hope there in Chapel Hill.

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Speaker 4: Everybody says you need three, but like me and how

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we're talking about it, like Paul Skeins did not pitch

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in your Championshimpi Ships against Florida. You had to have

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a fourth starter technically for that, Like Schmid's gonna have

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to be ready. But it's just I don't know if

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it now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And we got a lot of baseball to

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get to. Chris Blair, the voice of the LSU Tigers,

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will join us at eight point thirty to recap last

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weekend against Alabama, look forward to Tennessee, to Texas, A

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and M and kind of get into the nitty gritty

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shout out though, and you're gonna hear about Ashton Larson,

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like that's so tough that like, and we're gonna talk

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about him. He's gonna weekend winners. I'm sure he might

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come back up. He'll come up back up in our

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conversation with Chris Blair, but shout out to him. I mean,

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he was somebody last year that gave you a big spark.

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He came in, he was batting right around three hundred.

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Nobody had any expectation for him coming from the state

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of Kansas, you know, as far as playing right away,

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and he held it together for you for a long time.

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This year hasn't gone his way. You've had other players

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certainly get at bats when he hasn't. He hits one of,

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you know, the biggest home runs that you've had this season.

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It was great moment for him. I was hoping he

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could do it again when he had the bases loaded.

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I think it was in Game two that he had

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the bases loaded, ends up striking out. But pretty cool

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moment for him because again, he was somebody that I'm

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going to assume coming into the season, thought he was

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going to be a starter, going to be somebody that

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you counted on and just hasn't been, that hasn't gotten

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the at bats, and then he comes up with a

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big home run and that is not easy to do

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cold off the bench and Lshu's pinchaters all series long

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were really I mean you had Jake Brown coming to

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do it on the game. Gosh, I keep thinking Sunday

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on Saturday, so big pinchators for LSU Larson was cool

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to see him kind of have that moment. We'll see

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if it can kind of jump start him here in

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his sophomore year. All right, we will step away. When

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we come back, it is NFL Draft week, and we'll

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dive into all the latest there, what's going on with

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Derek Carr, with our guy Ross Jackson, and we'll do

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it right here on OTV. Off the Bench, right, good,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to more sports talk. What's some other stuff

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mixed in off the bench with Hester and.

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Speaker 2: T Bomb All right, Welcome back in OTV one four

488
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five ESPN Ben Roush here on this Monday morning. It

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is NFL Draft Week. Nobody covers the Saints better than

490
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our guy, Ross Jackson, who joins us now host of

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Locked on. Saints of course, are right over on Louisiana

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Sports dot Net. Go to the website and Chance has

493
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always got like seven new stories up because he is

494
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always working. Ross. What's going on, man, Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 6: How are you doing great man? Thanks so much for

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having me on.

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Speaker 2: All right, So it is Draft week, one of my

498
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favorite weeks of the year. Does it feel a little

499
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bit different though for the New Orleans Saints because there's

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so much talk of them selecting a quarterback? Because we

501
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all know this stat in nineteen seventy one, the last

502
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time the Saints actually drafted a quarterback in the first round.

503
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I don't know. It does feel a little bit different

504
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for me, does it for you? Ross?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit. It feels different to me for

506
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a different reason though, because I remember back in twenty

507
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twenty two, everybody was like, the States can't leave without

508
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a quarterback in the first round? Can you pick it?

509
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Malik Willis, Desmond Riders pro ready, blah blah blah blah,

510
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all of us everything. Sorry, I remember that conversations. Oh yeah,

511
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but I think that this year. The reason why it

512
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feels so different is that no one really knows what

513
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this team is going to do, and it always feels

514
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:09,359
like we got a little bit of a beat on

515
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what's going to happen. You know, Tali sa Booma was

516
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,039
so obvious, right, Brian Brizzy was so obvious, chrys Olavi,

517
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,480
Trevor Pinning so obvious, and now all of a sudden,

518
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you get this new coaching staff in there, and there's

519
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so many opportunities. As you know, well, when you get

520
00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:26,079
a new coaching staff in for cracks in the foundation

521
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and it feels like there's been no crack in the foundation.

522
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It feels like there's so many different directions the team

523
00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:33,480
is expected to go. That means that no one knows

524
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where this team is going to go, and that's a

525
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pretty good sign for the long term when it comes

526
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to future drafts for this organization.

527
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Speaker 2: I mean, Ross at this point, would you be surprised

528
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if Sanders wasn't the pick at.

529
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Speaker 6: Nine, No, not at all. I would be surprised if

530
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he was. If I'm being on, i'd be We're more

531
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surprised if he was a slush at nine. I don't.

532
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I haven't really bought the idea that they were in

533
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on him, And maybe that's them, maybe that's the team

534
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,759
selling it really well well. But everything from Dion Sanders

535
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,440
being what I would say is too vocal about the

536
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connection between his son and the New Orleans Saints to

537
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you know, Kellen Moore and Doug Nassmeyer not even making

538
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a trip to go to the Colorado prode and instead

539
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sending quarterback coach Scott Tolzen as well as wide receivers

540
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,799
coach Keith Williams. I feel, coming out of all those

541
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things that will shepherd the wide receiver at Mandiville, Native

542
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is more likely to become a New Orleans Saint that

543
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you're a standard there.

544
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Speaker 2: And also, I mean over the last couple of days,

545
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I think we've all kind of seen that the Saints

546
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:36,200
are big fans of Jackson Dart as well. Now, if

547
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the Saints were to select Jackson Dart, if that ended

548
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up being the quarterback that they got in this draft,

549
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when do you think that would happen?

550
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Speaker 6: I like the idea of a late trade up for

551
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the New Orlean Saints into the back half of the

552
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first round. You know, I think about the twenty eighteen

553
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Baltimore Ravens trade where they moved up from number fifty

554
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they were in the fifties in the second round, they

555
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moved up to number thirty two overall with the Philadelphia

556
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,920
Eagles who were picking number thirty two again this year,

557
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to be able to get up there and get Lamar Jackson,

558
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:13,079
who Baltimore had originally passed on twice because they had

559
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an original selection. They traded back from that selection, then

560
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they took Hunter Henry, then they moved up to go

561
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and get Lamar Jackson. I could see the Saints doing

562
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:24,759
something similar, trying to get up ahead of the Cleveland

563
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Browns who have that number thirty three overall selection, that

564
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second round selection, and so the Saints don't have to

565
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do too much to be able to get up from

566
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pick forty to pick thirty two if they want to

567
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go up and get a guy like Jackson, guard after

568
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Louisville quarterback Tyler Schuck in there as well, those guys

569
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aren't super likely to make it to forty, and so

570
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the idea of jumping up and making a quarterback selection

571
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in the first round as a second first round selection

572
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,720
makes a lot more sense to me, and you get

573
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the fifty year outshore of the player that one.

574
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I saw you, retweeted Schefter and talked

575
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about the Saints already kind of exploring those options in

576
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the second round. So if you go from four and

577
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you go up to thirty two, what does that look

578
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,839
like as far as the draft capital that you would

579
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probably have to give up.

580
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Speaker 6: Yeah, if we use the Baltimore Ravens model from twenty eighteen,

581
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you're looking at the number forty year overall selection, next

582
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year's second round selection, and potentially some fourth round one

583
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of the two fourth round picks one twelve or one

584
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thirty one to help you move up, and you might

585
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be able to get a pick an extra pickback in return.

586
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For instance, win the Baltimore Ravens did this, they moved

587
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up and not only got pick number thirty two overall,

588
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but they got picked number one thirty two overall in

589
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the fourth round as well. So it was the late

590
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round pick swot from one twenty five to one thirty

591
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two to get the Philadelphia Egals to move back twenty

592
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spots in their first round pick to back to the

593
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second round. And so I could see the Saints not

594
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necessarily having to give up as much to be able

595
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to make that make that lead, but being able to

596
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fall back a little bit in the fourth round, maybe

597
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going back from the fourth to the fifth round. In exchange,

598
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you do a late round pick swap next year's second

599
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round pick to exchange second round pick to get up

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into that first round.

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Speaker 2: Talking New Orleans, Saints with our guy Ross Jackson here

602
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on OTB Ross. So I was out all of last week,

603
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and you know, there's a lot of things that were

604
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going on in the sports world, certainly here locally, and

605
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,039
so I kind of missed all of the Derek Carr drama,

606
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Like what is the latest there with Derek Carr, his shoulder,

607
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the injury, you know, just everything that was surrounding him

608
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and his future with the Saints. Last week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so there was an initial report around Derek Carr

610
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having a shoulder injury that potentially threatened his potentially threatens

611
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Phil does his twenty twenty five season availability. That shoulder

612
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injury is expected to be a throwing shoulder injury, which

613
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would then be connected to the same shoulder that he

614
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injured back in twenty twenty three in that Green pay

615
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,319
Packers team where he had that ac joint. Never missed

616
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any games during that, but missed sort of the second

617
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half of games, and it had some games that Atlanta

618
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Falcons game in particular, where you know, even he said

619
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that he just couldn't get the ball where he needs

620
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to go, things like that, and that injury was something

621
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that had also kind of been sort of pre existing

622
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shoulder stuff as well, and so the thinks have known

623
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about this injury for some time, but with the league

624
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is starting to question. And when I say the league,

625
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I mean you know people within the NFL. What they're

626
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160
starting to question is is this actually just more of

627
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,799
a leverage play for Derek Carr to get out of

628
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New Orleans? Is all of this all these kind of

629
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,319
rumors and speculation and look a lot of evidence that

630
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,440
points to it too that Derek car is frustrated here

631
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
in New Orleans and once out and so if that's

632
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the case, he could be using this as a sort

633
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of leverage to say, hey, go ahead and plan for

634
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:37,400
your future at quarterback without me having to ask for

635
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a trade. Then once you planned your future at quarterback,

636
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you can move on for me. And so then that

637
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,920
ends up creating sort of this opportunity for New Orleans

638
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,400
use his debts made him at the post you in

639
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one cut at any point after they kind of figure

640
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,960
out what their quarterback situation is going to be, or

641
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they end up looking after June first to trade him somewhere,

642
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:56,119
which I think is going to be a little tough

643
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,920
with the twenty twenty six cap number, and it's tough

644
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,599
to say, hey, we want to trade the guy who

645
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,680
might not play in twenty twenty five, right, Like that's

646
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,000
a challenging thing to be able to pull off. But

647
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:06,680
if they were to end up moving on from him

648
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:08,559
post shooting one cut, certainly a way to do it.

649
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Or you know, the shoulder injury is something that he

650
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works on and then he's back in twenty twenty five.

651
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Like literally anything can happen at this point, but there

652
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:18,359
is sort of an expectation that the Saint and car

653
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,200
will be headed towards a split at some point. We

654
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,759
just don't know if it's this saw season or next

655
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:22,319
off season.

656
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,799
Speaker 2: And Rossett, if you do, if you move on from

657
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:27,839
Derek Carr, and gosh it, it does feel like right

658
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,799
now that is going to be the move. But if

659
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,400
you do, and you select a quarterback in this draft,

660
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and you select him in the first round or the

661
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:37,480
second round, and you're gonna have a quarterback room that

662
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,599
has a rookie, second year player in a third year player, Like,

663
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,279
if that's the case, would the Saints go into the

664
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season with that being their quarterback room?

665
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would expect some adjustment there. I mean, they

666
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:51,119
also have Ben de Nugi on the roster, who's a

667
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,839
veteran and who's got experience with Kellen Moore from twenty

668
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,279
twenty and twenty twenty one back to the Dallas Cowboys.

669
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But I wouldn't be surprised to see them go back

670
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to the market for another veteran as well. Popular name,

671
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,279
and understandably so is Teddy Bridgewater. The Saints have shown,

672
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:08,799
you know, proclivity for their proclivity for reunions and guys

673
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:11,519
that they're familiar with has not waned at all, and

674
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:13,720
so they could potentially go that route. That would be

675
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,359
a good kind of you know, a good move for

676
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,000
the fans to who would get some excitement at having

677
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,680
you know, Teddy Bridgewater back and all that. And then

678
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,240
you know, they could go another kind of wily veteran

679
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:26,839
route of Carson Wentz. There was some of the early

680
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,400
connections with Aaron Rodgers too, but it seems that Aaron

681
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,960
Rodgers isn't close to the decision, so I don't think

682
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,720
that you can fully lean in on that. And then

683
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,400
the other route that you go too is wait and

684
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,880
see who becomes available, right, I mean, you know, teams

685
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,279
go through this draft, they draft quarterbacks, the quarterbacks they

686
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,599
have been their room all of a sudden become expendable

687
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,319
or potentially movable. And then so there's other conversations you

688
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:49,319
can get in on there, but I would certainly expect

689
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,359
you to Ben Denuci or another veteran to be on

690
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,519
that roster. And then the Saint's got to figure out

691
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,799
with that first year guy, second year, third year guy,

692
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:58,960
which ones they're keeping and which one they potentially look

693
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,519
to potentially move at some point if they decide to

694
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:02,559
want to go that route as well.

695
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,279
Speaker 2: And Ross, I know we're talking, you know a lot

696
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,680
of quarterback that's exciting again, and the Saints right now

697
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:11,839
looking for an upgrade at the position. But going into

698
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,839
this draft, what would you say is their biggest need?

699
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,799
Because you kind of look around and I know they've

700
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,319
got needs in a lot of different places. They've tried

701
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:24,799
to shore up the defensive front through free agency. The

702
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,839
offensive front certainly has a ton of assets thrown into

703
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,440
it with first round picks. You know your receivers, they're talented,

704
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:35,200
but health concerns, Like, what would you say is the

705
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,559
biggest they have to hit in this draft? Need?

706
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting because there's a lot of it, like

707
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:42,720
you said, there's a lot of different directions that they

708
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:46,319
can go. I think defensive line is always worth investing in.

709
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,920
It's just the when you have kind of a changing scheme,

710
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,359
everything kind of starts at that front, So how do

711
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,480
you bolster that front? So they could always go that route,

712
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:56,720
whether it be on the interior or over on the edge.

713
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:58,599
But if you're going to go to a young quarterback,

714
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,680
I think it's that raise is sort of the importance

715
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,440
of pass catcher, offensive line, and running back. You know,

716
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640
the Thinks gave up thirty seven sacks last season. That's

717
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,599
not a lot of sacks, and Derek Carr was only

718
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,960
sacked eight times over the course of the ten games

719
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,159
that he appeared in. The issue is that Spencer Ratler

720
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,760
was stacked twenty two times in his six starts, and

721
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,039
then Jake Hayter was sacked six times, especially having one start,

722
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,960
And so this is and that's no you know, shade

723
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,159
at those guys. That's just part of being a young

724
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,760
quarterback in the NFL. Things don't process the same way

725
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,360
as an eleven year veteran, right, So that's obvious that

726
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:32,679
that's going to be a thing, and so you want

727
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,639
to give those guys outlets. You want to make sure

728
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,719
that your offensive line has depth and has good starters

729
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,280
right at the top. You want to make sure that

730
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,280
your your quarterbacks got big body pass catchers that they

731
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,000
can rely on. You can do that early with a

732
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,760
wide receiver like Cetero and McMillan, or at tight end

733
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,880
out of Penn State like Tyler Warren. You can go late.

734
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,960
I think I said Mandeville native. I meant to say

735
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,119
Madisonville native. You know Will Shefferd coming out Yeah, yeah,

736
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,960
coming out of Colorado a little bit later. Like you

737
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,159
don't have to necessarily princes of the podium at nine

738
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:03,199
to address these but there are ways you can do that.

739
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,039
And then of course, any young quarterback benefits from having

740
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,119
a run game that they can rely on and guys

741
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,400
who can catch out of the backfield and check down situation.

742
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:12,159
So how do you add to that running back room

743
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,400
greater consistency next to Alvin Kamara, That's something they can

744
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,920
do in this draft too. So I highlight all those things.

745
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,400
It's tough to pick one. I think you always start

746
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,800
in the trenches right through offensive line or defensive line,

747
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,000
clearly kind of being the maybe the big step at nine.

748
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,360
But outside of that, there's still so much that they

749
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,679
can address. And because they have six selections right now

750
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,599
in the top one hundred and thirty one selections of

751
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,599
this draft, they're in a good position to be able

752
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,400
to kind of hit multiple spots there.

753
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as we all know, they love to move

754
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,679
up in a draft, in the likelihood of that with

755
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,719
those picks is highly likely. All right, last one, Ross,

756
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,679
You've heard a bunch of different names attached to the Saints,

757
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,760
be it at nine or or somewhere else in the

758
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,800
first round wherever they end up. Picking of the names

759
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,960
that you've kind of heard attached to the Saints, which

760
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,599
one would lead Are you scratching your head questioning everything

761
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:03,599
the most?

762
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,159
Speaker 6: Oh? I think I would have to probably go with Well,

763
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:10,199
I think that was Schamar Stewart out of Texas A

764
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,280
and m you know, I could almost I can under

765
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,239
I think MIKEL Williams, he's kind of lump in his

766
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,519
conversation as well, the edresser of Georgia, but a little

767
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:19,920
bit more production, a little bit less opportunity, all those

768
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,519
other things. And so I think that one wouldn't leave

769
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:24,559
me stretch my head as much. But a guy like

770
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:28,119
Technicatem's Shamar Stewart. He's got all the physical traits, all

771
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:30,599
the physical tools, but one and a half stacks in

772
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:32,639
each of the last three years, not a ton of production.

773
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,199
You know, has a lot of kind of raw trades

774
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,000
that need development. I just don't think that the Saints

775
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,519
are in position right now to go the developmental raw

776
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,280
you know, defensive player or really either side of the football.

777
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,920
But I just don't think they're in a position right

778
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,519
now to take that kind of selection. They were in

779
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:52,400
twenty eighteen. They're not in this needed they're in a

780
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,000
situation now to where unique way it's going to be

781
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,239
an immediate impact player. And so I think that as

782
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,280
Shamar Stewart ending up with like the Philadelphia Eagles is

783
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,599
a very different Shamar Stewart than a Shamar Stewart that

784
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:03,599
ends up with the New Orleans Saints. I think that's

785
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,559
a very different player, and I don't think the Saints

786
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:07,480
have the ability to bridge the gap right now while

787
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,239
him putting brand new systems, brand new coaching, and potentially

788
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,199
starting over with an entirely different quarterback.

789
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually very well put. I agree with you

790
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,840
wholeheartedly on that last fact. As well. There is our guy,

791
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:20,920
Ross Jackson at Ross Jackson at NOLA is the handle

792
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,599
on social media Gama follow their host of Lockdown Saints

793
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,800
of course, Louisiansports dot Net, which Ross, I'm going to

794
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,000
assume you're going to have a couple of things going

795
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,320
up this week on the website covering this draft for

796
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,000
the Saints.

797
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'll have more than a few things, for sure,

798
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,719
I'm gonna do. Maybe I might do a mock draft

799
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,679
every day up to the NFL Draft. I'll certainly have

800
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:41,039
one coming out today. But with this team being so

801
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,679
kind of enigmatic in terms of what it is they're

802
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,880
going to do, we might need to take multiple stabs

803
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,800
at this thing and see what we.

804
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,639
Speaker 2: Get right at the end of it, Ross, we appreciate

805
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,280
your time, brother. We'll catch up again soon of course.

806
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:53,519
Speaker 6: Tommy, thanks much for having me on. Man, take care

807
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:54,480
say say we'll talk to you too.

808
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: All right, there is our guy Ross Jackson again. Man,

809
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,239
he's doing great work over on louisiansports dot Net and

810
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,159
he's not lying. He will have multiple stories up he

811
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,000
said there he'll have a mock draft up on the website.

812
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:09,280
So again, Louisiansports dot net and check it out there.

813
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:11,159
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825
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,679
we will step away. Wanna break down some of the

826
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:50,960
things we talked about there with Ross. A lot of

827
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,599
different options for the New Orleans Saints, not only in

828
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:56,159
the first round, but as he said, they've got some

829
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,599
draft capital to really move up. We know they love

830
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:01,400
to move. Are they going to move up in the

831
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,280
first round? Are they going to move up in the

832
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,199
second round? More likely they're going to move up in

833
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,360
that second round? But what do they have to give up?

834
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,760
How far up do they have to go. We'll answer

835
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,440
all those questions when we come back here on OTV.

836
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: Off the Bench. Welcome to the seventh ranked morning sports

837
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,960
show in America, Off the Bench with Hester and t.

838
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: Bob all Right, Welcome back in to Off the Bench

839
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,800
here on a Monday morning, NFL Draft Week, and Adam

840
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,039
Schefter had an article that came out early this morning,

841
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,639
five am Central Time, So latest and the greatest when

842
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:41,920
it comes to what potentially could happen with your New

843
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,039
Orleans Saints, And here's what he is hearing. He said,

844
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,400
there is a belief around the league that the Saints

845
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,039
are more interested in using a high pick on an

846
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:54,280
offense or defensive lineman because there are questions about multiple

847
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,559
starters along the offensive line. The belief is they want

848
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:01,800
to use one of the their draft choices on a quarterback,

849
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:05,559
just maybe not at number nine and maybe not Shadear Sanders.

850
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,000
As another personnel executive said, I don't think New Orleans

851
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:12,320
is taking Shoulder. I think they're hot and heavy on

852
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:16,280
Jackson Dart. It goes on to say, speaking of Jackson Dart,

853
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,800
there is a belief about whether the Saints would take

854
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,119
the old miss quarterback at number nine. Or if that

855
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:27,360
felt too high around the league. They have an equally

856
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,599
strong need on defense, and as we know, the Saints

857
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:35,159
love taking a defensive linemen there early in the draft.

858
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:40,000
And it goes on to say that Dart would fit

859
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:43,800
into their plans, but probably not at nine. And that's

860
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,440
where what we talked about with Ross second round number forty.

861
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,920
They're already kind of making those calls. They said, they've

862
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,960
already made some calls asked around about trading up in

863
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,760
round number two because they do have two thirds and

864
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,039
two fourth round pick. So it does sound like the

865
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,679
interest in Jackson Dart is real. It's not at nine.

866
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,880
That's not a surprise. How far would you have to

867
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,199
move up? At number twenty one? The Steelers are sitting there.

868
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,039
They also have a quarterback need. Jackson Dart has been

869
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,920
mocked to them almost everywhere that I've seen at one

870
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,599
point or another. So that's got to be the question,

871
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:27,639
where would you have to go. You're not going to

872
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,719
move back up that far into the first round. I

873
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,119
think it would cost too much. And I know, I

874
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:34,119
know we're dealing with Mickey Loomis, so who knows. We

875
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,719
know he loves to move up. But if the Steelers

876
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,280
don't take him, or if they go Tyler Shuck maybe

877
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,320
in the first round at twenty one. How far do

878
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,280
you have to move up? You probably do have to

879
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,760
get ahead of Cleveland, like Ross was just talking about.

880
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,920
But I don't know. I think Saints fans, if you

881
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,000
were able to get a Marquee offensive defensive lineman and

882
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,760
Jackson Dart, would that be a cescful draft?

883
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: I mean to me, it would you fill multiple positions. Indeed,

884
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,400
there and Rosse broke it down, like second round pick

885
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,679
this year and next year one of your fourth round picks,

886
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,599
because you have two of them, Like, that's a small

887
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:14,880
price to pay. In my opinion, you're essentially giving up

888
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,000
a second rounder. I mean, it's kind of all you're

889
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,119
giving up. You already have another fourth round pick, and

890
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:21,360
you traded your second this year for a first. You're

891
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,480
essentially just giving up a second round pick next year.

892
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:25,960
I mean, I'm I'm okay with that. To your point,

893
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,480
I think you have to move to twenty to get

894
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:30,239
Jackson Dart. Denver Broncos are at twenty.

895
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

896
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: Sean Baden and Mickey Loomis, whatever the relationship is there,

897
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:37,000
they have one. They know each other, would they be

898
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,639
willing to work something out. They're obviously not taking a quarterback.

899
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:42,679
They have their franchise quarterback. I think that's where you

900
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,280
need to go, because again, if the Saints don't take

901
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,199
Shador at nine, and I don't think they are, where's

902
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:49,480
he going to go. There's a chance that Shador Sanders

903
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:51,559
is still there at twenty, So I mean you might

904
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:53,440
still have your pick of the litter as far as

905
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:56,280
QBS go. Maybe that's the spot you go.

906
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,519
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pretend, and I'm going to allow myself

907
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:05,400
to live in a fantasy world where Will Campbell goes

908
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,599
to the Saints at nine, even though he's going probably

909
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:10,000
number four overall to the Patriots. But let us just

910
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:12,880
believe here for a second. What if you got Will

911
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,400
Campbell at nine? And again, I'm not gonna be there,

912
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,079
but this is our show. We can do what we want.

913
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,119
He's at nine, and then you get Jackson Dart at

914
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,559
thirty two. I feel like a pretty good win for

915
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:23,000
the Saints.

916
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: I don't like you could say, oh, we needed a

917
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,559
receiver on the outside. There's not gonna be many people

918
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:29,920
that are gonna be upset with that though.

919
00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what would you have to give up

920
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,000
to get Jackson Dart because those choices that you would

921
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:37,920
give up would be where I would like some receivers. Yeah,

922
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,679
here in this draft, but yeah, a Meccha Buka might

923
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,760
be available there. He's a first round talent. Still surprised

924
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,079
he's not getting mocked more in the first round. All right,

925
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,360
we will step away more. Ot be little weekend winners

926
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,519
when we come back here. One of four five ESPN

927
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,639
batter Rouge off the bench,

