WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:02.960 The views expressed in the following program are those of 2 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:05.839 the participants and do not necessarily reflect the views of 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.160 Saga nine sixty Am or its management. 4 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.000 It's Wednesday, and you know what that means. 5 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:34.280 Ringside Heat is on the air on news Talk Saga 6 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:37.280 nine sixty AM and your favorite Codcatcher, ladies and gentlemen. 7 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:39.479 My name is Lextan, host the producer of the show. 8 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:41.479 You can follow me at Lextan Media. You can follow 9 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:46.399 the show at Ringside Underscore. Today, March eighteenth, twenty twenty 10 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:51.000 six is Ruthless, Echoes, Chris at Chaos and three sixteen forever. 11 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:56.560 Last Monday was in March sixteenth, effectively affectionately rather known 12 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.880 as three sixteen Day, in honor of our very own 13 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:02.560 stone called Steve Austin. And I call him a very 14 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:08.959 own stone called Steve Austin. What because what? That was 15 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.359 his catchphrase? And that was that That's what made him great? 16 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:19.200 What that person saying what? What is Chico? And his 17 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:23.760 and his Instagram handle is at Cocoa collects Chico. 18 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.599 How you doing what? And I'm just kidding. 19 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:30.480 It was a cool little three sixteen day. They what 20 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:34.159 they honored him on raw what with a couple of 21 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:39.239 promos what but nothing really direct? What because Stone Cold 22 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:44.519 Steve Austin, what is comfortable? What putting the Stone Cold 23 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:47.000 what persona behind him? 24 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.040 Mmmm? Yeah, so that was cool. 25 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.159 He was interviewed on Busted Open this past Monday during 26 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.439 three sixteen Day in the morning, and it's interesting because 27 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:59.280 he seemed like more at peace than I've ever heard 28 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:04.079 him with, kind of having the Stone Cold era behind 29 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:07.760 him in his life, almost like whether or not you 30 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:10.360 could you kind of almost assume that whether or not 31 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.439 he got the call from WWE to show up on 32 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:18.000 RAW on Monday, maybe he didn't even answer the phone, 33 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:20.280 or maybe he didn't care to answer the phone or something. 34 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.840 Apparently he's got many things going on, like racing and 35 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:27.199 things like that. So good for him that he's sort 36 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:30.400 of seems to be at peace with just moving on. 37 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:35.120 Because if there was a time for Austin to have 38 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:39.000 shown up on a three sixteen Day this year would 39 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:42.120 have been it because it was on a Monday night, 40 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:45.719 the March sixteen thing, and it was in Texas. 41 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:46.639 Yeah. 42 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.800 Yeah, I could not have had a more ideal set 43 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.199 of circumstances for Stone Cold to do a run in 44 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:54.840 and maybe do a couple of stunners, or at least 45 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:58.159 do some sort of entertaining segment with oh, I don't know, 46 00:02:58.199 --> 00:02:58.639 maybe Dan. 47 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:01.639 So that would have. 48 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.879 Been fun, but it just seemed to me like Steve 49 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:09.719 Austin is plenty comfortable just moving forward with his life. 50 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:13.400 And also also a fun story here. 51 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.759 We were talking in the chat with the rest of 52 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:20.919 the former members of the Ringside heat Wrin crew and 53 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.680 they mentioned as well that one of them call him, 54 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:28.120 actually mentioned that at work he had to call a 55 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:33.360 man named Stephen Austin, which is great on March the sixteenth. 56 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:38.800 For yeah, that's great. Yeah, what a quinky think it is? Yes, yes, yes, 57 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.560 and yeah, and it's great because well now we have 58 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:44.639 we have a new version of that catch phrase of course, 59 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:49.120 because Dan Housen gave out some some shirts via shirt cannon, 60 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.639 like the shirt bazooka, and then he and then he 61 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.439 introduced Cannon Housen with multiple shirts. 62 00:03:57.479 --> 00:03:58.599 So that was fun. 63 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:05.960 And after that he said, since it's a very nice day. 64 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:08.360 Then he dropped the line he said, Dan house in 65 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.560 three sixteen says I just cursed your ass. 66 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.360 Yes, it's great, and then he ran off. 67 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.879 The lights went out and the lights went on again 68 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:21.160 he was still running, and then audibly he said, oh, 69 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:22.120 they can hear me too. 70 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:28.399 See it's it's and that's the thing like if again 71 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.199 we've said this before, but we'll say it again, if 72 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:33.519 there's any company that knows what to do with a 73 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:35.560 Dan Housen, it's w w E. 74 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:39.319 And I did have that feeling from the very beginning, 75 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.920 even when he went to AEW. I kind of figured, 76 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:47.439 since they're they're more quote unquote sports focused and more 77 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.759 more focused on the moves and you know, earning a 78 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:58.360 earning a really bafflingly bafflingly meaningless five star rating. Uh, 79 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.160 you know, since that's what the owners focused on, I 80 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:04.399 guess they're all focused on that. I knew they weren't 81 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.000 gonna last very long trying to use dan Housen. So 82 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.120 it's not that surprising to me because dan Housen is 83 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:13.319 sports entertainment exactly exactly. 84 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:13.839 That's the thing. 85 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:15.920 That's that that that's what that That's one of the 86 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:19.839 reasons why WWE has survived through all of these years 87 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:22.040 is because it's not just the sports. It's not just 88 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:25.519 the it's not just the moves. It is the entertainment 89 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.839 aspect of it. No matter if people. No matter what 90 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:31.759 people will say about the way that Vincent made handled 91 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.279 things in that sort of way, the one thing you 92 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:35.160 can give him is that. 93 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:37.759 He knew that it was sports entertainment. 94 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:40.920 And that's something that we will get into a little 95 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.560 bit later on the show when we go deeper into 96 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:47.839 these stone cold Steve Austin memories and recollections and and 97 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.439 things like that. But I want to talk about UH, 98 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:52.680 let's start. Let's let's start it off first with the 99 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:58.240 ww SmackDown. And because so called Steve Austin, UH calls 100 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:02.079 Steve Austin kind of like all it advertinally started the 101 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:04.959 ruthless Aggression era because he took his ball and went 102 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.720 home and Vince McMahon challenged the w w E superstars 103 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:10.519 on Raw at the time, do. 104 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:15.319 You have ruthless aggression? Which John Cena drink some water there? 105 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:16.519 I think there's something in your throat. 106 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:23.000 Yeah maybehn okay, But but but John Cena himself responded 107 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:26.079 in his first day of uh it's his first day 108 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.879 on the main roster, up against Kurt Angle and saying 109 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:32.680 what does he what? And in response to uh to 110 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:34.800 Kurt Angle asked him what does he have? And he 111 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:39.600 also answered ruthless aggression. So uh there you there, there, 112 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.839 there you go. I mean, uh, that is something that 113 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:46.240 is prevalent, I guess, and is that uh with that 114 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:49.839 connect Stone Cold and John Cena, uh and in the 115 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.199 I didn't arguably to the greatest superstars of all time, 116 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:56.000 and we'll also uh connect that to one of the 117 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:59.920 greatest superstars of this particular generation of w W. 118 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:01.360 Wrestlers and superstars. 119 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.519 Randy Orton makes a returns and shows the world that 120 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:08.319 he still has ruthless aggression even though they didn't say 121 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.920 ruthless aggression on the on the broadcast. I call it 122 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:16.399 ruthless aggression because the contract for WrestleMania between for the 123 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.600 Championship match between Randy Orton and Cody Roads was officially 124 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:23.759 signed and then Orton snaps a vicious attack on Cody 125 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.399 Roads with note theatrics just violence. This isn't just this 126 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.160 is the legend Norton anymore. This is predator Orton and 127 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.040 he has and now Cody Roads is no longer just 128 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:37.040 chasing destiny. He's got to survive destiny now. 129 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:43.560 So basically, welcome to the third or fourth annual. Let's 130 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.279 bloody up Cody Roads. On the Road to WrestleMania. 131 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:50.680 Yep, why not? I mean, like, hey, it worked the 132 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.800 last three years if it ain't broke right exactly. 133 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.720 So yeah, let's let's recount a little bit. 134 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:00.920 Take us take a little trip on memory lane the 135 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:03.279 past couple of WrestleManias or so. 136 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:03.759 So let's go. 137 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.600 So last year, I'm fairly sure Sina did a number 138 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:11.759 on on on Cody Roads. Oh yes, in Toronto. 139 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:16.000 Uh huh, punched him with a watch, got him a 140 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:17.920 bloody yes he did. 141 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.240 Which they pay tribute to. In Mattel's upcoming Ultimate Edition 142 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:25.240 Series thirty one release of John Cena, there is an 143 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:31.600 alternate hand with a like watch wrapped around the hand. Yep, yes, yes, yes, yes, 144 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.919 that's pretty cool. The only problem is, and I've seen 145 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.159 a couple of pictures of it, the watch is unpainted, 146 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:40.279 so it looks like it's just flesh colored. But hey, 147 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.679 you know, I still want a memento of that night 148 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:44.960 it having been in Toronto. 149 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:46.559 That heel turn, so to go with all the. 150 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.320 Other momentos that we've gotten from that night John, the 151 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:53.080 John Cena shirt, the fake John Cena shirt? 152 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:54.399 What else do you have? 153 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:59.559 I bought the little Elimination Chamber twenty twenty five pl 154 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.440 E Souvenir Mini Belt. 155 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:04.279 That's right, you did, That's that's right you did. Yeah. 156 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:07.159 Yeah, I almost bought the top Snow card too. About 157 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.519 the heel turn, so, I mean, too bad I didn't 158 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:10.720 get it, but that would have been fun. 159 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:12.120 But I haven't seen a couple of them have to 160 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.720 be marketplace, I mean, I don't. 161 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:16.559 I wouldn't mind getting that too, but then, like you know, 162 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:19.399 I'm I'm already pretty happy with my puppy, the fourteenth 163 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:20.200 Tops cards, so. 164 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:23.679 Oh yeah, that's pretty cool. So but we're not talking 165 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:25.759 about national Trading card data. That's not up yet for 166 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:30.159 another couple of weeks or so. So yeah, I don't 167 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:31.440 know how we got to talk about John c and 168 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.399 oh yes, bloodying up Cody Roads on an annual basis 169 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.440 en route to the WrestleMania main event that he's part of. 170 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:42.159 So yeah, John Cena bloody Cody Rhoads. 171 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:46.039 And then before that the Rock bloodied him, and then 172 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.519 before that, I'm pretty sure Roman Rains got him too, 173 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.600 before that wrestlmingd at thirty nine confrontation maybe. 174 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:54.720 Exactly, and and and and here's the thing. It's like, 175 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:57.279 as as we joked around the board. If it ain't broke, 176 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.600 don't fix it. But at the same time, it's like 177 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.840 it's like it does put Cody Rhodes in a more 178 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:08.080 sympathetic position. And when you are the when you are 179 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:12.960 the face going into WrestleMania, you want you you obviously 180 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.799 want the casual fans to know that you know that 181 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:18.840 you that that that uh who is rooting for? 182 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:21.679 Yeah, exactly who's the good guy? Who's the bad guy? 183 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:25.159 And right now, h Randy Orton in his I mean 184 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:27.200 he's having I love the fact that Randy Orton is 185 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:31.159 having so much fun as the legend Randy Orton and 186 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.200 living it up, and he's had he's lived it up 187 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:36.039 over the over the past little while being you know, 188 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:40.720 the being the fan favorite because you know that, thanks 189 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.879 to the Internet, r KOs out of Nowhere memes were great, 190 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:46.519 right and still and and and are still fun. So 191 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:49.120 whenever you see Randy Orton pull a pull an r 192 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.080 k O out of Nowhere, it is obviously gonna be 193 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.519 you know, it's obviously gonna get a huge pop no 194 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:58.080 matter what it is. But at the same time, now 195 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:02.240 I just think that Randy Orton is such a natural 196 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:05.879 heel and yes uh uh and ever since he was 197 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.679 doing the h before he became the legend killer uh, 198 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.919 when he was just just just just playing old vanilla 199 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.440 Randy Orton, blue trunks and uh and hair on his head, 200 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:20.720 doing the R and end segments, when he was updating 201 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:24.279 people about the uh the injury, the injury to his arm, 202 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:27.399 or very early on in his rookie year as a 203 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.799 WW superstar, those pissed me off. I did not like 204 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.080 those ones. I still watch them, don't get me wrong, 205 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:34.960 but I just like it just pissed me off, Like, 206 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:36.240 what the hell am I watching this for? 207 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:37.279 Oh? 208 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:40.960 That entertained me back then. Actually I appreciated that. 209 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.159 You know, if if if he's got the talent, why 210 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:47.399 not keep him on TV? Which I think? Uh now 211 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:50.000 they do a decent job of. I mean, we're not 212 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.440 going to talk about this much, but Chelsea Green was 213 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.080 on SmackDown and she made the most out of a 214 00:11:55.120 --> 00:12:01.840 few seconds of time backstage where she was hastily disposed 215 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:04.759 of by Tiffany by like just sending the wheelchair off 216 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:10.440 camera right. Yes, reminds me of Tom reminds me of 217 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.279 when Cain threw Matt Cardona off the stage. 218 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.039 On rass so on on the wheelchair as well. 219 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:17.600 See you got ahead of me, man, but I was 220 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:22.000 getting there, so you know, like like like wife like 221 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.840 husband or something. I guess it runs in that family. 222 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:27.519 And then and then Chelsea even showed up down the 223 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:31.480 ramp after that too, just kind of being a pest 224 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:37.480 during the Tiffany versus h Keana James match, was it, yes. 225 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:38.559 Tiffany versus Keanna James. 226 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.639 Yes, yes, so so Chelsea made her presence known and 227 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:45.759 so yeah, sometimes it's kind of good to have an 228 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:50.240 injured superstar still on TV, uh if they can, you know, 229 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:53.679 still get a reaction from the crowd. Sometimes not all 230 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.840 the time, Like I'm okay with Kevin Owens, for example, 231 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:59.240 being like gone for a while, it'd be nice to 232 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.159 get an update. He needs to eat, he needs the 233 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:04.279 heal though, man, Like yeah, absolutely, yeah, so that's that's 234 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:05.200 a whole different story. 235 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:07.840 Yeah. 236 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.559 So, I mean Chelsea was there and even though she's 237 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:14.799 injured whatever. Randy did it back in the day. But yeah, 238 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.840 going back to your point about Randy being a natural heel, 239 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.840 I was gonna mention that it looks like and he 240 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:23.600 may have even said this off camera to the crowd 241 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:27.559 and look at somebody's Instagram footage of raw or SmackDown. 242 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:31.200 But I think Randy even yelleda like like nine, it's 243 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:34.000 two thousand and nine again, baby or something. I don't 244 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:35.840 know if he said that. I mean, I would think 245 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:37.840 that somebody else should say it for him. I think 246 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.919 he should just be like ruthless again and cold and 247 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:45.799 not have to pander like I hope he does less 248 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:49.279 pandering on the road to WrestleMania because he's you know, 249 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.120 I think he sincerely means it too, because he's in 250 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:55.200 a more enlightened part of his adult life. So he 251 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:57.120 that's what he was expressing as a as. 252 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:57.679 A baby face. 253 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:00.279 But now that he's back to kind of being that 254 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:06.200 ruthless viper ready to bite you at any turn, and 255 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.720 you know, unleash's venom on you and all that stuff, 256 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.679 I think we got to see like a colder Orton again, 257 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.039 at least, like while he's on screen. Yeah, yeah, and 258 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.399 it's nice. At least they made a line in the 259 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.279 sand reference to the old evolution theme. 260 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:20.919 I guess. 261 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.159 A line in the sand to make sure to make 262 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:29.480 it simple good guy versus bad guy, you know, and 263 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.399 people are still going to cheer for Randy because they have. 264 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:32.399 So much respect for him now. 265 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:35.679 But yeah, it's nice to draw that line between face 266 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:40.799 and heel. Keep it simple, you know, let people have 267 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:44.039 that babyface versus heel match up, and then you know, 268 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:45.840 they could still decide for themselves what to do, but 269 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:49.799 at least you're you're keeping it kind of clear who's 270 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:51.759 the good guy, who's the bad guy? Per se like, 271 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:55.039 you know, so I'm glad that they're doing that. Some 272 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:57.120 people would have wanted it to be Cody, but I 273 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.080 think that it's it makes more sense that it's And 274 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.639 because he can always snap at any time. He always 275 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:05.559 talks about the voices in his head, why not listen 276 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:07.879 to them now, which he did exactly. 277 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:13.639 And an interesting psychological layer I think that is going 278 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.639 on here is that Orton seeing Cody as a man 279 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.720 trying to complete a story, even though yes, Randy Cody 280 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:23.519 did complete his story before and everything, but then with 281 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.799 Orton's mindset is the one he wants to end Cody's 282 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:28.879 story of this kids in this case. 283 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:30.919 I don't know if you caught this, but on Monday, 284 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.000 Michael Cole was supposed to interview Randy Orton, and so 285 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.360 Orton Pops on screen, but he's in the middle of 286 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.480 a phone call and it was a mystery caller. So 287 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.840 and then he decided to change his mind and tell 288 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:44.960 Cole he's not going to give the interview anymore. So 289 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:47.399 he's playing more into the whole persona of being a 290 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:51.639 heel again. So I like where this is going. I 291 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:55.320 just hope yeah, Orton gets colder again and more calculated 292 00:15:55.360 --> 00:16:00.279 and more heelish, because he's just been overtly sugary suite 293 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:01.399 the past few months. 294 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:04.240 He has been exactly and and and and and the 295 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.240 thing is like, because of the respect that I've gained 296 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:10.080 for or that that that I've had for Orton, uh 297 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:13.360 over the years now, I mean like and it's uh, 298 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.720 I haven't I I I haven't really liked Orton a 299 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.440 lot for most of his career. But then you know, 300 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.919 now that all this time has passed and uh, you know, 301 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.159 he's still wrestling at a high level and still can 302 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:28.919 go for another few years, kind of like the way 303 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:30.679 A J styles is and and I guess that's the 304 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.200 that's our generation of h uh, like you know, the 305 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.879 the the the the the millennial generation of wrestlers, as 306 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.639 uh Randy is probably one is probably the first generation 307 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:46.639 millennial wrestler, uh is or first cohort millennial wrestler, like 308 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:52.519 uh uh compared to you know, Gen X and Boomer wrestlers. Uh. 309 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:55.720 You know, the the nutrition and the fitness and the 310 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:59.279 uh and the health, the the the focus on health 311 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:03.519 within the athletics community is just at a different level 312 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.079 than it was, you know, for even for for that. 313 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:11.720 Yeah, yeah, I think that with Orton too. He's one 314 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.920 of the best at working smarter, not harder mm hmm. 315 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:19.119 So he knows how to make the the best out 316 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.920 of not having to do much physically because and I 317 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.000 used to think of all of that as as super boring, 318 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:28.720 and sometimes maybe it still is. But I've come to 319 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:32.720 understand some of the psychology more and more through the years, 320 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.519 and I think that Randy is is what they say 321 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:39.160 he is. He's a master at doing that. He's a 322 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:44.279 master of again doing much without having to do much, sorry, 323 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:46.400 doing a lot without having to do much. So he 324 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:52.480 uses the psychology to his advantage, something that in recent 325 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.640 years Roman Reigns has learned to do as well, in 326 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:58.720 a different way, at a different level too, But Orton 327 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.480 has been doing it for a long time, and so well, 328 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.599 I'm glad he's getting the shot. And I don't know 329 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:07.519 about you, but I like that this is going to 330 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.680 remain a singles match. Yeah, are you okay with it 331 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:12.920 now or now? 332 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:14.960 I am because of the fact that because of the 333 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:18.640 way they're building the different stories with Drew McIntyre and 334 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:20.200 Jacob Fatio and the rest. 335 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:23.079 YEP, this is exactly what I had confidence that would happen. 336 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:26.680 So I'm glad that it's so far that it's working well. 337 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:32.400 And in fact, I even hope that Randy wins number fifteen. 338 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:36.240 You know, I wouldn't I wouldn't be opposed to that, Honestly, 339 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:39.319 I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be opposed to to Randy 340 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:40.920 taking number fifteen at WrestleMania. 341 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.599 I mean, we've already seen Cody. 342 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.240 You know, we've already seen Cody finish his story and 343 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:49.599 all that, and you know it would be and I'm 344 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:52.000 sure that they're going to build up a good moment 345 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:54.599 for Cody if he is going to be slated to 346 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:57.400 win at WrestleMania and retain the championship. 347 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:01.680 But there is I mean, they did it for Sena. 348 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:05.480 They got Seena his seventeenth and and broke the record, 349 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:09.480 Uh broke the record at WrestleMania last year, and it's uh. 350 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.079 Might as well put Randy on that road too, right 351 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.440 like toward that maybe exactly exactly. 352 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:18.920 And I would say that Randy has earned that distinction 353 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:21.039 just as much as John Cena has. 354 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.160 Yeah, and Sena himself recognizes that records are made to 355 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:27.640 be broken. So I'm sure that he, of all people, 356 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:31.559 would not mind if Randy gets close or at least 357 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:32.720 ties him. 358 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:33.119 Like. 359 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:36.480 I don't know if they'll they'll have Randy like break 360 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:37.319 Sena's record. 361 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:40.519 It could happen, though, Yeah. 362 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.200 I'd like him. I don't know if I want him 363 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:44.640 to break Seena's record. I'd like him to tie it, 364 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.799 at least tie Rick Flair. 365 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:50.240 Which is the one right under Sena. 366 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:53.759 Yes, that's right, yeah, because and it would be fitting 367 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:57.279 because it would be fitting because it was Ric Flair 368 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:01.680 and Triple H an evolution that that made Batista and 369 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:05.119 Randy Orton who they are today and particularly and so 370 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:08.839 if so, if Randy Orton does have that opportunity and 371 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:13.759 has that health still that he can, you know, convincingly 372 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:18.119 be somebody that could tie Rick Flair's record. 373 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:19.839 At this point in his career, I said, do it. 374 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.720 Yeah, And I think at this point you can always 375 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.839 get Cody on the chase for a world title, and 376 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:33.440 I think that that there's potentially more story with Randy 377 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:35.839 going forward for WrestleMania's champion. 378 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:41.640 M hm and yeah, yeah, I mean when you have 379 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:46.319 when when you bring back the legend killer persona that 380 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:48.839 you know, as you said, you know, taking it back 381 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:49.920 to two thousand and nine. 382 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:51.960 One thing I like. 383 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:54.680 One thing I actually do appreciate what they've been doing 384 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:57.799 with AJ Styles, what they've done with or what they've 385 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.279 done with AJ Styles rather what they've done with John 386 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.000 Cena and what they've done and what they might be 387 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.400 doing with Randy Orton, is that you know, they're giving 388 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:10.480 them their final runs of their careers and or in 389 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:12.759 at least in the back end of their careers, the 390 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:16.839 older age of their careers. But it's not a nostalgia run. 391 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:21.319 I didn't find a nostalgia run from from from AJ Styles. 392 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:24.480 I didn't feel a nostalgia run from John Cena. And 393 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:26.559 I didn't feel and I don't feel that they're going 394 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.039 to do in a nostalgier run for Randy Orton because 395 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:33.559 this is not nostalgia. This is a man remembering exactly 396 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:36.400 who he is, and he is a legitd killer with 397 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:41.759 Raspress Ringside Heat on New Stock snat nine sixty am. 398 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:43.279 We're going to take a break, but we're going to 399 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:46.200 come back with talking a little bit more of the 400 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:48.720 lighter side of wrestling. We're gonna start off with Dad 401 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.720