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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blind Sider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Tuesday edition of our program. It is exam week.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you're studying hard. What it means is no midweek

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<v Speaker 1>basketball games. The women play on Friday at six o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>at Historic Memorial Coliseum against Belmont, and the men, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>will be in New York City for the Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>game about five thirty. It's the second game of that

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<v Speaker 1>doubleheader in Madison Square Garden. And yes, I am going up.

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<v Speaker 1>The wife and I are actually going to make that

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<v Speaker 1>trip Christmas in New York. I love it, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen several games in Madison Square Garden. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>covered the nit in nineteen seventy six start to finish

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<v Speaker 1>all four games up there. The Kentucky Colonel crew. We

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<v Speaker 1>went up. Gosh, there were four of us to have

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<v Speaker 1>fun and have a long weekend in New York because

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<v Speaker 1>we thought the Wildcats might win a game, Nah, maybe two,

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<v Speaker 1>but we knew we'd be coming home. Nope. I just

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<v Speaker 1>kept right on winning. I had to go to laundromat

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<v Speaker 1>and do some laundry to last out the week. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Garden's a great place to see college basketball and

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<v Speaker 1>it should be interesting. So we'll talk about the basketball

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<v Speaker 1>Cats here in just a moment. Later on, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk with j R. Vanhus, who, of course was

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<v Speaker 1>a Kentucky schoolboy legend went under a great career at Marshall,

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<v Speaker 1>his alma mater. Had to drop out of the Independence

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl in Shreveport, a ten to three team, but their

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<v Speaker 1>coach resigned to take a different job at Southern Miss

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<v Speaker 1>and so so many players jumped into the portal with

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach leaving, they can't feel a team. So

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<v Speaker 1>now there's going to be a five and seven Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>Tech team playing in that bowl game. That's where it's

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<v Speaker 1>come to with the portal and nil money. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to JR about that a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 1>in the show. But basketball Cats, of course, coming off

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<v Speaker 1>the big win over those Louisville Cardinals, Lamont Butler with

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<v Speaker 1>just an incredible performance, a perfect night at the second

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<v Speaker 1>most points thirty three ever scored against the Cardinals Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Miller at thirty four, many many years ago. But Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Gibbons talked to Lamont about the fact that, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>came off the ankle injury. But Lamont assured Jack they

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<v Speaker 1>would have won without him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how we win that thing to

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<v Speaker 2>night without you out there. We were one to just

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<v Speaker 2>like we won the last two games with that like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, everybody steps up, you know when when

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<v Speaker 2>someone goes down. You know, Kurt was out, so we

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<v Speaker 2>all stepped up again. So, you know, a big credit

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<v Speaker 2>to my teammates. They you know, continue to play with hard.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, with me on or off the Corey, It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take us far this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are noble sentiments. And at first I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack's right, But then I got to thinking, when you

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<v Speaker 1>watch this Kentucky team, Yeah, you gotta worry if you're

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<v Speaker 1>the opposing team about Lamont Butler, But you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about Jackson Robinson on the Arc. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>worry about Andrew car You gotta worry about so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people have said there's no truce, Superstar,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no true lottery pick or whatever that is. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a fact. I do agree with that, But I

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<v Speaker 1>just think the way that Mark Pope has put this

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<v Speaker 1>team together speaks well to the balance, teamwork, unselfishness for

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<v Speaker 1>this team and in fact, speaking to Jackson Robinson. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>asked him after the game if it surprised him the

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<v Speaker 1>Lamont butler, known for defense, jumped up with an effort

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<v Speaker 1>like this on offense and before whoever was asking the

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<v Speaker 1>question could finish, Robinson was shaking his head. No, not

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I played Lamont last three years.

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<v Speaker 3>I know exactly what he's capable of, and just being

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<v Speaker 3>with a coach like Coach Pope and just learning the system,

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<v Speaker 3>learning how to playoff two feet, make plays for his teammates.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't forcing anything, got all the great shots that

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<v Speaker 3>he gets every single game. They were open and he

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<v Speaker 3>knocked him down. So I mean, I couldn't be more problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Puts them to work every day.

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<v Speaker 1>That last comment, Seeing him put in the work every day,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so important. And I don't get to go

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<v Speaker 1>to practice a lot, but what I have as a

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<v Speaker 1>constant reminder of how much time these kids spend in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym. They spend time working with the team, working

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<v Speaker 1>with their coaches, but they spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>in there by themselves. John Caliperry talked about this a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was important when he talked about it. When

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<v Speaker 1>any coach talks about it. The work these guys do

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<v Speaker 1>on their own as well as practice is so vital.

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<v Speaker 1>And with Lamont Butler, it's clear he's worked on his shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to work on defense. Of course, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to have your teammates around. You can do slides, you

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<v Speaker 1>can do all kinds of individual work, but when you're

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<v Speaker 1>honing that skill it takes to read an opponent and

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot passing lanes and things like that. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to come in either full court practice or drills.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the reps that make you a better shooter.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jack Gibbons has talked about it on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody who's ever played basketball knows that the more time

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<v Speaker 1>you spend on reps doing things right. If you're jacking

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<v Speaker 1>up shot after shot and you've got major flaws in

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<v Speaker 1>your shot, then it's going to hurt you, obviously. But

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<v Speaker 1>the guys who spend time in there working by themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>working with their teammates, it pays off, of course, And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why Robinson wasn't surprised at all that his

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<v Speaker 1>teammate had such a big game shift over to football.

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<v Speaker 1>For just a moment. We talked about this a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on the state wide show last night. Wake Forest

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<v Speaker 1>head coach Dave Clawson is stepping down and you might

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<v Speaker 1>shrug and say, eh, so well, a couple things. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>Brad White's a wake Forest alum. If you're Wake Forest,

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<v Speaker 1>do you not take a good, hard look at him? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Kentucky struggled this year, but if you're smart,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a smart ad, you look beyond that. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at the body of work and you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>other people who will tell you, not that I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to push this guy out the door, but they'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you he's a tremendous defensive coordinator. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down and talk to him to find out

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<v Speaker 1>if he's a good fit, if he wants the job.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I haven't heard anything about it. It just makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense to link the two and don't talk about the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he's a candidate. I'm just saying there's

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<v Speaker 1>a connection. Clawson, what a great job. In eleven years,

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<v Speaker 1>seven Bowl games, twice had them in the top fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wake Forest. That's the Vandy of the acc Due respect

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<v Speaker 1>to Andy, but he wanted out. He's not happy as

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<v Speaker 1>a coach right now. And one have you heard that before?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Nil, Thank you Portal. Want to come on

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty eight WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue Sider.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up at the bottom of the hour. WKYT's Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Milem who is of course covering the Basthtsketball Cats the

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<v Speaker 1>football Cats, but also has recently been named to the WYMT,

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<v Speaker 1>the TV station in Hazard where Brian worked for I

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<v Speaker 1>think a dozen years. Brian has been named to the

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<v Speaker 1>WYMT Mountain Classic Hall of Fame. That's the basketball tournament

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<v Speaker 1>that's been happening for nearly four decades now. Crazy success

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<v Speaker 1>in the Mountains and Brian's been a part of that,

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<v Speaker 1>the coverage. Brian loved covering sports in the Mountains and

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job. We've talked to him about that before.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit later on Jara Van, who's speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains. Paintsville High School legend mister Basketball, helped lead

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<v Speaker 1>Paintsville to a Sweet sixteen championship in the mid nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>went on to a great career at Marshall, and we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to him about Marshall having to drop

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<v Speaker 1>out of a bowl game. He's had some strong comments

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, so we'll talk to him about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll put a rap on the Kentucky volleyball season

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<v Speaker 1>with Hunter Mitchell, who covers the sport so capably for

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<v Speaker 1>On Three. In fact, he writes about it so well

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<v Speaker 1>and takes really good photos for their website as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did want to touch base on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things. There's been so much fallout about Bill Belichick,

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<v Speaker 1>and I join those who are skeptical simply because I

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<v Speaker 1>just really wonder about Bill Belichick sitting in somebody's living

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<v Speaker 1>room trying to beg an eighteen year old to come

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<v Speaker 1>play for him. And I don't buy this stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>all kids don't know who he is. Yeah they do,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they do. They know who Tom Brady is and

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<v Speaker 1>kids who love football. If you want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>college football player, you eat, sleep, and breathe a sport.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guarantee you you pay attention to more than

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<v Speaker 1>just what's happened in the last twenty minutes. So they

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<v Speaker 1>know who Belichick is. If for no other reason, the

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick story is front and center all the time, it

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<v Speaker 1>was about the fact that he couldn't get an NFL job.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's about the fact that he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>coaching college football. But yeah, Tom Brady's coaching. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Rick Patino at success when he first got

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<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky. Well, this guy coach the Knicks. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy knows how to get me to the league.

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<v Speaker 1>You think Belichick isn't going to sell that. He already is.

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<v Speaker 1>He said it's going to be his program will be

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<v Speaker 1>a feeder system to the NFL. But it's interesting. He

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<v Speaker 1>was on with Pat McAfee the other day, as he

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<v Speaker 1>has been frequently, and McAfee was going on about his

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts about it and you know what's gonna happen down

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<v Speaker 1>in Chapel Hill, and Belichick interjected with some pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>promotional ideas. Bill.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to let you know last week I spent

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of time talking about you recruiting with a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people, you know, because cause you come on

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<v Speaker 4>the show, because we did the draft together, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>considered an NFL person, All the college football people that

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<v Speaker 4>I know are like, how do you think Bill's gonna do?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, well, Bill's not gonna half ass anything like

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<v Speaker 4>for He's not gonna He's gonna be very well researched.

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<v Speaker 4>His team is obviously going to be held to a

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<v Speaker 4>standard the way they're going to operate, Like, I think

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<v Speaker 4>he's gonna win. And everybody was like, well, how's he

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<v Speaker 4>gonna recruit, how's he gonna recruit, how's he gonna recruit?

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<v Speaker 4>You think he's gonna recruit? And it's like, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be a little different for him. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna bet. And I literally spent the entire week

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<v Speaker 4>saying that to a lot of college football people. So

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<v Speaker 4>to hear that it's all kind of happening the way

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<v Speaker 1>Can I jump in there?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, why don't you come down and talk about

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<v Speaker 5>it in person?

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<v Speaker 1>How about if we do game day down here? See

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Hey, we love that. Uh And I would be

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<v Speaker 4>honored to go down there. Lombardi tells me it's the

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<v Speaker 4>most beautiful place that he's ever been, and obviously he

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<v Speaker 4>told us about you guys taking the off seasons down

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<v Speaker 1>We can't wait to get down there. I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to get down And again that's Pat McAfee and Bill Belichick.

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<v Speaker 1>Courtesy of ESPN. I heard Sally Jenkins talking to Tony Corneiser. Jenkins,

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<v Speaker 1>She talked about the fact that Belichick's parents were we're educators,

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<v Speaker 1>or Mountain West Conference. That I'd be debies at a

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<v Speaker 1>right there. One other note before we hit the brake.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're an NFL fan, there's a chance you have

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<v Speaker 1>And so now I'm reading that there were commercials throughout

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<v Speaker 1>seven hours of commercial free football, and I've always wondered,

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<v Speaker 1>are subscriptions enough to make this channel work. Well, evidently

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<v Speaker 1>the answers know or somebody got greedy upstairs because now,

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<v Speaker 1>and admittedly they did it with a split screen, they

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<v Speaker 1>made a big deal. Fans let people know it did

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<v Speaker 1>indeed bother them that they were seeing commercials on their

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Somebody told me it'll change your life, and

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting to me. Actually, it's double sided. Bone Knicks,

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<v Speaker 1>over the Colts. Right, he throws three interceptions for the

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<v Speaker 1>of Nicks. And remember now, the Broncos got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the mountaintop. Well, fans turned on him. He struggled for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Beat Kentucky. It was the open air for

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID year. Remember the year that Kentucky played nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody played nothing but conference games. That was Kentucky's opener

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<v Speaker 1>at Auburn and Kentucky got out of a touchdown, ends

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<v Speaker 1>up losing. Bo Nicks had a great game be Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>as much with his legs as his arm, but later

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<v Speaker 1>he left. Which quarterbacks are doing that a lot? As

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<v Speaker 1>you know, goes to Oregon, has an incredible career at Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's doing great things in the NFL. And

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<v Speaker 1>you got to wonder, if you're an Auburn fan, just

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<v Speaker 1>how badly did we screw up letting that guy get away?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one of his veteran teammates said, he is

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<v Speaker 1>so tough, smart and put together. He's everything you want

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<v Speaker 1>him in that moment, didn't even blink, just kept going

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<v Speaker 1>and kept at it. And it's a team football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now balance that against what's happening in San Francisco with

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<v Speaker 1>Devondre Campbell. He's done. He's the guy who walked to

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<v Speaker 1>of their twelve to six loss to the Rams and

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<v Speaker 1>his locker now empty, and his teammates have basically said

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<v Speaker 1>your team. That just sucks. Nick Bosa said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have a hard time finding somewhere else to

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<v Speaker 1>career is over. He's only thirty one, nine year veteran,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was moved to a backup role for this

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<v Speaker 1>complained about it before the game, during the game, left,

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<v Speaker 1>and now his locker's empty. So things like that matter

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<v Speaker 1>both when you're hanging in there and getting the job

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<v Speaker 1>next from wyt here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Big Blue Insider, joining us now as a

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<v Speaker 1>buddy of mine and a longtime friend of the show

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<v Speaker 1>and now a Hall of Famer, mister Brian Nylem. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>teasing you before one on the air, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>what an honor. You were named to the Mountain Classic

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame, and you and I have talked before

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<v Speaker 1>about your love for the time you've spent in the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains and you still spend time in that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the state. Congratulations, first of all, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>It is a nice honor when you can be in

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<v Speaker 6>the same company, at least by name with Bobby Keith,

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<v Speaker 6>Richie Farmer, Jr. Van Hoos Clay County, Paintsville, you know

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<v Speaker 6>in the list at Jay Crawford, the list goes on

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<v Speaker 6>and on. So I'm at the special. It was a

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<v Speaker 6>special moment and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A great coincidence I have Jr. Coming on in the

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<v Speaker 1>show a little bit later on, so it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit of course in Mountain Classic,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian goes back how far and by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I told you this. I was in the building

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<v Speaker 1>the da wymt you went on the air. Our late

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<v Speaker 1>Gray GM Ralph Gabbard, who built that place, leaving the

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<v Speaker 1>ground up. He wanted all of us department heads, all

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<v Speaker 1>of his management team from Lexington to be there for

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<v Speaker 1>this historic occasion. So we saw the sun come up

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<v Speaker 1>over the mountain where the transmitter is and we saw

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<v Speaker 1>it go on the air. But tell us about the

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<v Speaker 1>history of that basketball tournament.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the tournament was started in nineteen eighty eight and

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<v Speaker 6>it was to raise money scholarship money for four students,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean basically, and at the very at the inception,

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<v Speaker 6>it was eight scholarships, I think, one to represent each

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<v Speaker 6>school involved in the tournament. Well now here we are

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<v Speaker 6>thirty eight years later, and that scholarship a lot is

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<v Speaker 6>more than five million dollars. And wow again, from eight

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<v Speaker 6>thousand and year one to a totality of more than

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<v Speaker 6>five million, that's pretty incredible. And oh yeah, by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>you've seen some great basketball over the years too. But

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<v Speaker 6>the premise was to raise money to send Appalachian students

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<v Speaker 6>to college that may not have had the means to

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<v Speaker 6>do so, or at least give them a jump start

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<v Speaker 6>into thinking about college and rewarding students who had done

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<v Speaker 1>And it has survived, it has thrived, it has grown,

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<v Speaker 1>which says everything there is to say about the pride

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<v Speaker 1>of the mountains really, and I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>people who've lived their all their lives. They love it,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's it's sometimes a rough place to live,

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<v Speaker 6>They they do? And you know, and just to show

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<v Speaker 6>you the impact, I came across the story you did

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<v Speaker 6>with st Roach, oh yeah, twenty five years ago maybe,

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<v Speaker 6>and you asked him, who treated your dunbar bearcats better

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<v Speaker 6>than anybody else? And he said all the people in

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<v Speaker 6>those people treated us better than any other place in

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<v Speaker 6>the state of Kentucky. And if st Roach can say that,

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<v Speaker 6>what's that mean for? I mean, that's just the ultimate

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<v Speaker 6>sign of affirmation about Eastern Kentucky. If sd roach Conte says.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot about the sport of basketball, too, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 6>Sure? I mean with John Bill Trivett, who was coaching

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<v Speaker 6>you know, if dun Bar's having a tough situation, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>come on over here. We'll feed you, we'll house you,

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll play some great basketball. And man, I would

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<v Speaker 6>have loved to have lived in that era that Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what I did. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mean back back when you know basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>They would talk about New York Chicago, LA, and Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in terms of young kids coming up and

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<v Speaker 6>I think there is. But obviously, with the decline of

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<v Speaker 6>And that's why the nineteen eighties for me from college

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<v Speaker 6>and high school in this state may have been second

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<v Speaker 6>to none at least when you compare decades throughout this

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<v Speaker 6>state's history. But it is tough to see the dwindling

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<v Speaker 6>population again. The Tallepool is going to suffer a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>But one thing that doesn't suffer is the pride and

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<v Speaker 6>the way these communities show up for their teams, not

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<v Speaker 6>just basketball, but football as well. And it's really something special.

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<v Speaker 6>If you've never been there to experience and said, you

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<v Speaker 6>need to. Devin Jackson, one of our guys at KYT,

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<v Speaker 6>he was down there. He goes, man, this is all right,

425
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<v Speaker 6>shod and this is nothing compared to what it was

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<v Speaker 6>twenty years ago when you'd have five thousand strong and

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<v Speaker 6>twenty five hundred on each sidy to kill each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Brian Milem, sports director WKYT and now

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Mountain Classic Hall of Fame, the

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<v Speaker 1>WYMT Mountain Classic Hall of Fame. You're talking about the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to think that it it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it peaked, but certainly it culminated in Richie Farmer

433
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<v Speaker 1>versus Alan Houston, that game in the Sweet sixteen where

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<v Speaker 1>they both went for a thousand points.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was. That was in many ways the last.

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<v Speaker 6>In some ways it felt like maybe I'm just being

437
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<v Speaker 6>I'm overlooking something, but that was the last great rivalry

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<v Speaker 6>that pitted city versus country, small town team versus an

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<v Speaker 6>enrollment of two thousand. You know, it had to have

440
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<v Speaker 6>a great rivalry. You must have contrasting styles. Oli Frasier. Yeah,

441
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<v Speaker 6>Ballard and Clay County. You've got the tall, beautiful looking

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<v Speaker 6>athlete in Ali and you got the short, kind of

443
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<v Speaker 6>clumsy looking guy who's just coming straight at you, the

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<v Speaker 6>Rocky Balboa guy. Yeah, you know. And that's what Clay

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<v Speaker 6>and Ballard was in eighty seven and eighty eight, And

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<v Speaker 6>I think people forget they met in the Louisville Invitational

447
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<v Speaker 6>Tournament in Clay County won there and eighty eight finals.

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<v Speaker 6>The eighty eight state finals was the culmination of Clay

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<v Speaker 6>County winning the year before and then Ballard and maybe

450
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<v Speaker 6>it's coincidence, irony, I don't know. Clay County wins it

451
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<v Speaker 6>in rough Ballard wins it in Freedom Ball.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great point. I hadn't thought about that either.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember Terry Hatton, who of course had to

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<v Speaker 1>walk on UK and he's since written a book. His

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<v Speaker 1>dad's verned and wrote a book about being a ticket

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<v Speaker 1>scout for He was an intern at KYT and he

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<v Speaker 1>and a young Steve Moss so I think was an

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<v Speaker 1>intern then as well, went on to become executive sports producer,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of your colleagues. They argued all season

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<v Speaker 1>about Richie and Allen, and of course Terry's game was

461
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<v Speaker 1>much closer to Allen's than Richie's, and Steve kept telling him,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, and I remember getting to that game,

463
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<v Speaker 1>and it was in the early stages of that game

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<v Speaker 1>at Freedom Hall and Terry looks up at me and

465
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<v Speaker 1>all he said was, you know, I believe it now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I get it when you see Richie Farmer play.

467
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<v Speaker 1>But then again, you know, Alan Houston went on to

468
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<v Speaker 1>have an incredible career for Bad teams at Tennessee. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I think you'll agree, Brian, because you grew up

470
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<v Speaker 1>following U of L as I did. If he goes

471
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<v Speaker 1>to Louisville instead of Tennessee, I think the trajectory of

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<v Speaker 1>Denny Crumb's career, his career ends on a much higher note,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely When Wade Houston left, he was the main recruiter,

475
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<v Speaker 6>and he went the Vince Marrow to Mark Stews at

476
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<v Speaker 6>that time. And when he left, so did that pipeline,

477
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<v Speaker 6>maybe the Camden, New Jersey, and maybe the pipeline to

478
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<v Speaker 6>other places that had made Louisville so successful, And unfortunately

479
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<v Speaker 6>it did not follow to Knoxville for Wade. Now Allen had.

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<v Speaker 6>He may still be the school's all time leading score,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe behind christ Oh gosh, how can I forget his name? Yes,

482
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<v Speaker 6>Chris Laughton. Maybe he's two behind him or maybe still

483
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<v Speaker 6>a head I don't remember. But he had an individually

484
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<v Speaker 6>spectacular life in Knoxville, but as a team they didn't

485
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<v Speaker 6>make it. And Diddy Crumb goes to at least in

486
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<v Speaker 6>my opinion too, maybe three more final fours of Allan

487
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<v Speaker 6>Houston as a global cardinal, and he'd like to think

488
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<v Speaker 6>with his track record of getting to the final four

489
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<v Speaker 6>that he could have won at least one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're talking to Brian Milam WKYT is the newest

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<v Speaker 1>one of the newest members of the WYMT Mountain Classic

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. When we come back, we'll talk some

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and some Wildcat Wildcat basketball that is here on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the break six thirty WLAP Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Brian Mylam of WKYT as the sports director.

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<v Speaker 1>I often call him Mister Baseball because he just absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>loves baseball, played it in college at Morehead State. And

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<v Speaker 1>before I get to the basketball cats, Brian, I texted

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<v Speaker 1>you the other day about this the Golden Rule or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they're calling it, that the suits who run Major

501
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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball are actually considering this some kind of rule

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<v Speaker 1>tweak where at a certain point in the game you

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<v Speaker 1>can send up to the plate your best hitter whoever

504
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<v Speaker 1>you want, which would just be an a just an

505
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<v Speaker 1>aberration of the worst degree. I know you hate that

506
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<v Speaker 1>as well, but what we talked about in text is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact they're even thinking about this. Nuts.

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<v Speaker 6>It's called the Golden at bat that's it. And this

509
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<v Speaker 6>tells you all you should need to know. It was

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<v Speaker 6>basically it was brought up a decade ago by someone

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<v Speaker 6>within the MLB commissioner just a you know, just a

512
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<v Speaker 6>pipe dream, hey, just a brainstorm. But the Savannah Bananas

513
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<v Speaker 6>are the ones who put it into play. And Savannah Bananas, yes,

514
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<v Speaker 6>they played base but their number one objective is to

515
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<v Speaker 6>be entertaining. It's not about winning championships and doing you

516
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<v Speaker 6>know whatever. I mean, at what point are they trying

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<v Speaker 6>to make Major League Baseball just backyard baseball? Hey? Ghost Runners? Second? Sick?

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<v Speaker 6>All right, I'm here, you know, then you go listen.

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<v Speaker 6>I just can't understand how anybody in their right mind

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<v Speaker 6>would say this is a great idea. I just I

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<v Speaker 6>can't understand it. And uh, you know, I thought the

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<v Speaker 6>pitch clock rule for the pitch I thought that was

523
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<v Speaker 6>a great idea because the game was being slowed down

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<v Speaker 6>in ways it was not meant to be. Yeah, uh

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<v Speaker 6>that And at first I thought, well, the umpires have

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<v Speaker 6>allowed this to happen because they should never. They should

527
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<v Speaker 6>always and say hey let's go, let's go pick it up,

528
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<v Speaker 6>pick it up. But they didn't, So I don't mind

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<v Speaker 6>that rule. The ghost Runner at second needs to go.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean at some point just for the just to

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<v Speaker 6>speed up baseball, what are they going to inherit a

532
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<v Speaker 6>three to two count next year? And he's all right,

533
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 6>you're on the beauty of baseball. For me and for

534
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 6>many was that it was there was no time, there

535
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<v Speaker 6>was no clock. You may play all night if you

536
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<v Speaker 6>don't get that lashed out. And I love Thomas Boswell,

537
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<v Speaker 6>the great writer for the Washington Post for all those years,

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<v Speaker 6>and he even mentioned one time he's he wrote in

539
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<v Speaker 6>a in an article about just basically an impairphrasing. Just

540
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 6>when you think you understand baseball, there's an illusion that

541
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<v Speaker 6>can almost be understood. You can almost see what's going on,

542
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<v Speaker 6>but you really don't know the intricacy things. And if

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<v Speaker 6>this happens, I mean, you talk about driving Billy Martin

544
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 6>and Earl we were crazy. They'd have great arguments. It

545
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<v Speaker 6>just doesn't make any sense as to changing the game

546
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 6>is one thing, enhancing it as another. And this would

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<v Speaker 6>change it and it would not enhance it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And like you said, the next thing you know

549
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<v Speaker 1>is that you know leftfield's closed. You know that kind

550
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 1>of stuff like in a bankard. No, it's nuts. Well,

551
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<v Speaker 1>let us get over to the basketball catch. You've seen

552
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those uku of l games, and to me,

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<v Speaker 1>what surprised me the most was the fact, and this

554
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<v Speaker 1>is not a knock on Kentucky. Oh maybe it is,

555
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky goes up ten and couldn't pull away. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you had the same sort of feeling, But

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<v Speaker 1>what did you make of that? What did you make

558
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<v Speaker 1>the way that game was played?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think it depends on how you look at it,

560
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<v Speaker 6>because you know our job, your job, my job is

561
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<v Speaker 6>to look at it from both both angles. And yeah,

562
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<v Speaker 6>Kentucky could not pull away, So that means you got

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<v Speaker 6>to credit Louisville a little bit. And it's been tough

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<v Speaker 6>to credit Louisville at anything over the last five years

565
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 6>and four years. So you've got to credit Louisville for

566
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<v Speaker 6>having a belief in what they're doing. And you also

567
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<v Speaker 6>got to remember, for Louisville, they were without two of

568
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<v Speaker 6>their players who were lost to the year for medical reasons.

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<v Speaker 6>They've been gone for a couple of weeks now. But

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<v Speaker 6>Kentucky could not pull away, and I think if I'm

571
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<v Speaker 6>Kentucky a little bit, the only thing that bothers me is,

572
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<v Speaker 6>you gave up eighty five points. You scored ninety three.

573
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<v Speaker 6>But at some point down the road, you're going to

574
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<v Speaker 6>have to stop giving up these these bursts. And for

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<v Speaker 6>Louis to score eighty five, louisles much better. It's amazing

576
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<v Speaker 6>what an attitude adjustment and a culture culture adjustment can

577
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<v Speaker 6>do for a program. But if Lamont Butler is not perfect,

578
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<v Speaker 6>who knows what outcome we've got.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, that's true. A few minutes Levet with Brian

580
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<v Speaker 1>Mylin from WKYT, you and I talk a lot about

581
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>were both old schools. You know, you're an old soul

582
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>like me, even though you're younger. And the big picture

583
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<v Speaker 1>on this Kentucky team, I think is incredible, given the

584
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<v Speaker 1>fact that the new coach comes in and has to

585
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<v Speaker 1>build a roster literally from the ground up, due respect

586
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<v Speaker 1>to the walk Ons. Never been done at Kentucky, rarely

587
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>done in college basketball period. I remember Max Good had

588
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<v Speaker 1>to rebuild the EKU program when he got the job.

589
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 1>He was an assistant and was promoted, but he had

590
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>two scholarship players to start with, you know, none, and

591
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<v Speaker 1>this is of course one of the blue bloods. Where

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<v Speaker 1>do you put this in the Annals of College Basketball History, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying this team's going to win the

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<v Speaker 1>national title, but just the fact that it's thriving says

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I don't remember what it was like, and

597
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 6>you would when Patino took over the first that first year. Yeah,

598
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.039
<v Speaker 6>when he gets your tickets are going to be more

599
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 6>valuable than hastains and oil and all that stuff. That

600
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:32.159
<v Speaker 6>great New Jersey Boston active that he had. But what

601
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 6>he did at a fourteen and fourteen clip coming off

602
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<v Speaker 6>of a dumpster fire that he inherited. But he had

603
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 6>scholarship guys on the team. Now they weren't. He would

604
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 6>have gone out and saw it had he been the

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<v Speaker 6>head coach for the previous three years. He said, Yeah,

606
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<v Speaker 6>I mean Richie, Richie Farmer is not on that ball club.

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<v Speaker 6>Pelfrey might be, Beldhouse might be. I don't know if

608
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<v Speaker 6>Sean Woods is. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe

609
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<v Speaker 6>he is, maybe isn't. But I think when now, for

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<v Speaker 6>the first half of this season of the regular season,

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<v Speaker 6>Cope has been perfect almost. I don't think anybody saw

612
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<v Speaker 6>this team with one loss at this juncture. You thought

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<v Speaker 6>Pagan zagad. They've got three losses, maybe four if there's

614
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<v Speaker 6>an upset at the halfway point. Mark Pope has got

615
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<v Speaker 6>to be the SEC coach of the year, the national

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<v Speaker 6>coach of the year. He has got to be in

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<v Speaker 6>my opinion. I'm not being biased in this. Bruce Pearl

618
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 6>would have something to say. Rick Barnes would have something

619
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<v Speaker 6>to say about it with the way their teams are playing,

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<v Speaker 6>But Mark Pope has done He's got to be the

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<v Speaker 6>halfway point, the national coach of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I can't disagree with that, all things considered.

623
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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah. And now we're going to see just how

624
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<v Speaker 1>well this team fairs. Can it survive in the SEC,

625
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 1>which it is early, but I heard another talking hit

626
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>earlier today saying it could be the best conference in

627
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the history of basketball. And that's got a lot more

628
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<v Speaker 1>to do than just adding Texas and Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 6>You know it is, but I think but still, and

630
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<v Speaker 6>I had this conversation with someone the other day, but

631
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<v Speaker 6>the more teams, the more schools rather that you put

632
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<v Speaker 6>into a conference, especially with the histories, the athletic histories

633
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 6>of Texas and Oklahoma, and then the rumor mill that

634
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<v Speaker 6>in the next three years of Virginia could be there,

635
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 6>or a Clemson or North Carolina. I mean, when you

636
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 6>gobble up all the smart kids in the room, you

637
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 6>better have the smartest room in school.

638
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

639
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 6>This case, you're getting the majority of the great talent

640
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 6>across the country, you better be the best conference. And what,

641
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 6>in my opinion, what's always made the SEC better than

642
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.719
<v Speaker 6>everybody else? It's not Kentucky because you expect them to

643
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 6>be there. You expect the horses of the conferences to

644
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<v Speaker 6>be there. But when Tennessee comes and doing what they're

645
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 6>doing and Auburn doing what their it's always and I

646
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 6>don't mean this in a bad way, but it's the

647
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<v Speaker 6>it's the schools that don't have a crazy basketball reputation.

648
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 6>When they're better, it raises everybody else. Though, that's right,

649
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 6>and uh, you know when Kentucky's great in football are

650
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 6>very good in football, it raises the SEC.

651
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

652
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<v Speaker 6>Now, just the same thing for basketball when your Tennessee's

653
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 6>and Auburn's come up and then LSU. I've always thought

654
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 6>the conference is at its best when LSU was there,

655
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 6>But now you throw in Texas and Oklahoma and they've

656
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 6>made runs before and have had great individual talent. This, Yeah,

657
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 6>this could be the greatest, This could rival this could

658
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 6>rival the eighties Big East a little bit. And maybe

659
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 6>they're pack We will see, because you know the eighty

660
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:56.679
<v Speaker 6>five Big East did put three teams to the final.

661
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Four right here in the election. That's exactly right. What

662
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say was I remember John Cohen

663
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 1>talking about and he didn't use his phrase back then,

664
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's now. It's you know, not just raising the ceiling,

665
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 1>but raising the floor. And when he got to Kentucky

666
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and Kentucky was starting to become relevant, he said, that's

667
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>what's making the league tougher. It's not that LSU is

668
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be great again this year or whatever, but

669
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<v Speaker 1>he said, it's the Kentucky's and whoever else was good

670
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that year, you know, getting better. When the league gets better,

671
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.119
<v Speaker 1>when the teams in the lower half get better, That's

672
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly what's happening with the SEC right now. Brian Milin,

673
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 1>sports director w KYT and one of the new members

674
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 1>of the Mountain Classic Hall of Fame, congrats again, thanks

675
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>so much.

676
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<v Speaker 6>Sir, Thank you, buddy, appreciate you.

677
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>And as I mentioned up next, JR. Van, who's former

678
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>mister Kentucky basketball went onto a Hall of Fame career

679
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>at Marshall. We'll talk about what's going on with the

680
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>portal nil, how it's getting into the high schools, all

681
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of that and more. And now number two here on

682
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<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue and

683
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 1>sider joining us down our celebrity hotline as a guy

684
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<v Speaker 1>I've known for a while, but JR. Van, who's to

685
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.679
<v Speaker 1>believe this might be the first time you've been in

686
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 1>our show.

687
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 7>Welcome, Thank you.

688
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:13.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is the first time I've been on your show.

689
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 6>I do appreciate it well, Jr.

690
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>As most sports fans around here, I would hope No

691
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.159
<v Speaker 1>was Kentucky's mister basketball in nineteen ninety eight at the

692
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Paintsville High School led him to the ninety six Sweet

693
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>sixteen state championship, went on to a Marshall University Hall

694
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of Fame career playing for the Thundering Herd. And the

695
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>reason I wanted to reach out to JR. Besides just

696
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>chatting with him at ball games was I wasn't aware

697
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of this, JR. But you're alma mater apparently has had

698
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the back out of a bull game because you won't

699
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>have enough players, Is that right?

700
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 6>Well, that's I think that's what's been reported on the internet.

701
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 6>But from what I hear, I think there's somewhere around

702
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 6>thirty thirty five players that are in the portal as

703
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 6>of right now. Yeah, I mean that's that's a lot.

704
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.159
<v Speaker 6>But you know I and I believe three or four

705
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.280
<v Speaker 6>of them are quarterbacks. So you know, you definitely, I

706
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:11.079
<v Speaker 6>don't think you could show up to a ball game

707
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.000
<v Speaker 6>with maybe one quarterback and no backup.

708
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<v Speaker 1>You know, Marshall was slated to play Army and Independence

709
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 1>ball and now apparently Louisiana Tech will play. But as

710
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.559
<v Speaker 1>a former college athlete and you're an educator, that's got

711
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to hurt your heart and being a Marshall alum, I've

712
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>got to think that's a what a terrible feeling.

713
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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, anytime that you know, something like that

714
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.239
<v Speaker 6>happens to a school, especially your school, your sports team,

715
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:41.000
<v Speaker 6>it's a it's a big blow because you know, you

716
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:44.920
<v Speaker 6>always want to see your modern football teams win championships,

717
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 6>playing bowl games, you know, do all those things that

718
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 6>teams talk about doing. But you know, the landscape of

719
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 6>college sports today, just for some reason, these things happen

720
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 6>and they happen quite often, and it's just it's really,

721
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 6>it's really sad to see.

722
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 1>This is happening in the wake of the head coach

723
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 1>resigning to take the vacant job at Suttern, Miss Charles Huff.

724
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 1>So in a way, I mean, as a former athlete,

725
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>can you blame these guys for saying, well, you know,

726
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>if he's gone, so am.

727
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:22.320
<v Speaker 6>I No, you know, I don't. I don't. I definitely

728
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.199
<v Speaker 6>don't blame the players at all. I think the system

729
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 6>that exists today allows them to do that. And you know,

730
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.800
<v Speaker 6>like I said, being a being a former player, I

731
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 6>don't blame players for looking for better opportunities for them.

732
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 6>I just think there needs to be some type of

733
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 6>system in place to prevent things like this from a

734
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 6>team not being able to participate in a ball game

735
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 6>from happening.

736
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it costs the kids who want to play

737
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.320
<v Speaker 1>in the ball game now they don't get that experience.

738
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, I think when you

739
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 6>play college football, I think your goal is to always

740
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 6>playing a bowl game. It's like going to the NCAA tournament.

741
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 6>You might not have a chance to win a national championship,

742
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.280
<v Speaker 6>but you sure want a chance to play in that

743
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 6>tournament or that bowl game.

744
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and as you pointed out on your tweets and

745
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 1>your social media posts, the history of Marshall University football

746
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 1>is one of course that it includes the terrible tragedy.

747
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Some friends of mine, former colleagues, worked the story of

748
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.039
<v Speaker 1>the plane crash that wiped out the football team. But

749
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you know the fact that Marshall came all the way

750
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>back to win championships is phenomenal.

751
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, you know, you go and have a

752
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 6>school that experiences a tragedy like that, where seventy five

753
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.840
<v Speaker 6>members of your community, your football team, your coaching staff

754
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.079
<v Speaker 6>are killed in a tragic plane crash, and you know,

755
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 6>the administration and new coaching staff that was brought in

756
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.719
<v Speaker 6>fought to have a season the next year, you know,

757
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 6>and when you look now and you win your conference championship,

758
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 6>you finished ten to three, and you're invited to a

759
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.519
<v Speaker 6>fairly prestigious bowl game against an army team that you

760
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 6>know had been in the top twenty five whijor recently,

761
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.519
<v Speaker 6>and you know that's the opportunity you want. And so yeah,

762
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.960
<v Speaker 6>it's just it's just sad to see something like that happen,

763
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 6>and like I said, you know, I definitely don't blame

764
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 6>the players that I think the system just needs six.

765
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it needs more these better guard rails, doesn't it.

766
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I mean, I think there could be things in place,

767
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 6>like you can't transfer to after the ball season, and

768
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 6>I think that should be the same for coaches too.

769
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 6>I think contracts should remain in place. That's if you

770
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.159
<v Speaker 6>make it to a ball game, you have to coach

771
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 6>that game, and then you can you know, maybe they

772
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 6>can push back the hiring date for coaches or I don't.

773
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I think there's a lot of things

774
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 6>that can be looked at.

775
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, it is still in the early stages.

776
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling that several year years from now,

777
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.599
<v Speaker 1>we'll look back at this period of time and say, wow,

778
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 1>that was crazy back then. It's hard to believe that

779
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the guard rails were not in place. But you know,

780
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>after that at obandoned lawsuit situation where they they kind

781
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of rushed everything into place such as it is, I

782
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>guess I shouldn't be surprised that things are just kind

783
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:20.159
<v Speaker 1>of messed up right now, you know.

784
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:25.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Yeah, I mean, and again I'm all four players

785
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 6>having the best opportunity for them to make money off

786
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.199
<v Speaker 6>their image and likeness and you know, all of those things.

787
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 6>I just think if you're going to pursue those opportunities,

788
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 6>I would definitely like to see some guardrails in place

789
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:42.159
<v Speaker 6>that won't hurt you their teammates if they choose to

790
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:43.360
<v Speaker 6>stay at at university.

791
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Have you talked to other Marshall lums about this?

792
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, some of my former teammates. Of course, we're

793
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 6>in you know, a tech a text group, a text chain,

794
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 6>and you know, we talk about it, and I think

795
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.239
<v Speaker 6>most of them have similar sentiments. You know, we are

796
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 6>definitely not the players. We just would like to see

797
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 6>something in place that doesn't hurt the teammates that stay

798
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 6>behind or choose not to leave.

799
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We're talking with Jared Van who's the former of

800
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Mister Basketball and a member of a Hall of

801
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Famer at Marshall University after a terrific career there. And

802
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>we're talking, of course about the fact that Marshall's had

803
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to back out of a bowl game because it just

804
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.039
<v Speaker 1>basically won't have enough players because there's so many in

805
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the portal. After the head coach decided to take a

806
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 1>new job. There is a player on the Marshall roster

807
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>right now. I don't know how much you keep up

808
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.280
<v Speaker 1>with the basketball team, but a kid named Creighton theenem

809
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and from Louisville. His father went to Trinity High School,

810
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 1>graduated with me. Phil was a great player for US,

811
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>went to Virginia Tech, played pro ball in Europe. Now

812
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 1>he is back in Louisville, and we were talking at

813
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:58.760
<v Speaker 1>a reunion a year or two ago about the fact

814
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that Marshall, as you know, Jr. Went to the NSA

815
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>tournament a couple of years ago and and pulled off

816
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>at least one upset, as I recall, But then the

817
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>bigger schools came calling with the big money and poached

818
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 1>a couple of their best players. And like you say,

819
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't really blame them, but it really kind of

820
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:21.639
<v Speaker 1>leaves a school like Marshall in the dust, doesn't it.

821
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 6>You know, it does and and and that's that's exactly

822
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 6>what happened a couple of years ago. You know, Marshall

823
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:30.800
<v Speaker 6>finished second in the Sun Belt Conference in the regular season.

824
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 6>I mean it went down to the last game of

825
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 6>the season and they finished second. Our our one player

826
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 6>that did graduate was the player of the year in

827
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.199
<v Speaker 6>the Sun Belt and he's still he's still playing professionally

828
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.159
<v Speaker 6>in the G League. And uh, you know, we had

829
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.079
<v Speaker 6>two other players that were all conference performers. One with

830
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 6>a four year point guard who left to an SEC school,

831
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 6>and one was a seven foot freshman who was the

832
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 6>freshman of the year, you know, and average close to

833
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.119
<v Speaker 6>a double double and he went to another SEC school. So,

834
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 6>you know, you lose three players like that when two

835
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.679
<v Speaker 6>of those players could have been returning, that definitely just

836
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.800
<v Speaker 6>hurts your prospects going into the next season, because not

837
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 6>only do you have to find pieces that fit your team,

838
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 6>you really have to rebuild your roster after losing three

839
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 6>players like that. And it is sad to see. You know,

840
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:26.440
<v Speaker 6>I think I think schools that you know, maybe aren't

841
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 6>in the SEC, the Big Ten, you know, all these

842
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 6>bigger conferences, it's almost like they're a breeding ground for

843
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:37.360
<v Speaker 6>those schools, Like they're almost like a minor league. To

844
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 6>give like a baseball example. You know, you you sign

845
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.079
<v Speaker 6>and you develop players for one or two years, and

846
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 6>then when they get really good, they're off to more money,

847
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.800
<v Speaker 6>a bigger school, you know, a better opportunity, whatever you want.

848
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 6>To call it, and then you're here just kind of

849
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:57.440
<v Speaker 6>left holding nothing and hoping to replace that player, which

850
00:47:57.480 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 6>sometimes that's hard to do.

851
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.679
<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot of former Kentucky players talking to

852
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 1>each other like, hey, can you imagine what we would

853
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>have gotten and things like that. As a guy who

854
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.239
<v Speaker 1>played at a so called mid major, do you think

855
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.679
<v Speaker 1>about that much that how your life might have been

856
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>different if and you you were a kid with skills

857
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 1>and size. I got to think that you would have

858
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>been attractive to a lot of other schools. Do you

859
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 1>think about that much?

860
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I mean, you know, when you have when you

861
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 6>have these situations happening like they are now, you kind

862
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 6>of almost put yourself in that spot. You know, what

863
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:35.920
<v Speaker 6>would I do? How would I react? What decisions would

864
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 6>I have made? I mean, it's you know, it's easy

865
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:40.039
<v Speaker 6>to look back now and say, well, you know, I

866
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 6>loved my time. I'm thankful for everything that I did

867
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 6>at Marshal, everything that I accomplished. But at the same time,

868
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 6>you're like, man, you know, even if I wouldn't have

869
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 6>had the opportunity to maybe playing in the Nbay, you

870
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 6>know in Europe, you know, who knows if I would

871
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 6>enjoyed that or not. But if I would have made

872
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.480
<v Speaker 6>four hundreds, five hundred thousand dollars in college, that'd have

873
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.239
<v Speaker 6>been a nice start to my life. You know what

874
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean? I may you know, I mean once you

875
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.119
<v Speaker 6>graduate and you get an entry level position in a job.

876
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 6>For me, you know, a first year teacher making eight

877
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.960
<v Speaker 6>hundred and sixty dollars every two weeks. Money like that

878
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 6>that you could have made in college just by playing sports.

879
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 6>It's life changing. Top money that you're talking about. It's

880
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 6>almost like you're signing professional contract and still playing collegiate sports.

881
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 1>And at these kids who are not only helping themselves

882
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>but helping their families.

883
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, And so who's to say that I would

884
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 6>have not played at three different colleges and all these

885
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:46.199
<v Speaker 6>different things, you know, I mean, it's just money talks,

886
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.440
<v Speaker 6>and money talks a lot. And again that's why I

887
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 6>don't blame the players for entering the transfer portal. I

888
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 6>just think there needs to be rules in place that

889
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 6>kind of allow them to do those things while not

890
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 6>hurting the university and the teams that they're leaving. You know,

891
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.440
<v Speaker 6>when they're playing in a tournament, a bowl game, championship,

892
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 6>you know what whatever, whatever it may be. But yeah,

893
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:13.719
<v Speaker 6>I mean it's just a it's a different landscape. I

894
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:16.519
<v Speaker 6>can't imagine what it would have been like when I

895
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.360
<v Speaker 6>when I played. I've had, you know, some of my

896
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:23.920
<v Speaker 6>former college coaches and people that coached against me, you know,

897
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 6>talk about how much money they would have offered me

898
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 6>and all this stuff. And I mean it's just as

899
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.320
<v Speaker 6>an adult, as a forty five year old adult now,

900
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 6>it's just kind of unbelievable to hear things like that,

901
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 6>like you would have gave me how much just to

902
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:39.280
<v Speaker 6>just to play and go to you know. I mean,

903
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 6>it's just it's unbelievable. So I can't imagine what these

904
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:42.960
<v Speaker 6>kids have to deal with today.

905
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Marw Kentucky high school basketball legend Jared Van, who's after

906
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>to break here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're

907
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 1>talking with j Van who's he was mister basketball at

908
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Paintville High School back in the nineties, went on to

909
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame career at Marshall. And we've been talking,

910
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>of course about the portal and nil dollars see and

911
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>now it's kind of creeping into the high school ranks.

912
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.119
<v Speaker 1>And you've coached at Paintsville. You've coached at Johnson Central,

913
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.079
<v Speaker 1>do you talk to other coaches about what it's like now?

914
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 1>I got to think there's more pressure from parents, you know,

915
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.119
<v Speaker 1>to get their kids to a situation where there may

916
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:20.840
<v Speaker 1>be some dollars out there for them.

917
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 6>Well listen, I mean, you know, especially there's not a

918
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 6>lot of college high school age players that go on

919
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:32.239
<v Speaker 6>to play college yep. And so like, if you think

920
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:34.960
<v Speaker 6>that you may at least have an opportunity to make

921
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 6>a little bit of money, you you are probably going

922
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:41.679
<v Speaker 6>to have to look at different situations and see how

923
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 6>things work out. Now. I hate that that has come

924
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 6>to that, but again, I mean, who knows what families

925
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 6>are experiencing behind closed doors, right, you know what I mean,

926
00:51:53.000 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 6>especially financially, And so it is almost like the recruiting

927
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 6>and the stories that you've heard of college recruiting, like

928
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 6>in the seventies, eighties, and nineties, that's almost gone down

929
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.039
<v Speaker 6>another level to the high school level now. And you

930
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:12.400
<v Speaker 6>know now that those college players are getting paid. You

931
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 6>hear the I'm getting offered this from this school, and

932
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:20.239
<v Speaker 6>this opportunity and these different things you're hearing at the

933
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.920
<v Speaker 6>high school level two, which you know I'm sure that's

934
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 6>that's always been the case for the most part, but

935
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:28.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean to hear it as often as we're hearing

936
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 6>it now, that's that's kind of crazy.

937
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And next year it's going to be even crazier

938
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>when the schools can flat out pay players. But they're

939
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 1>going to change, for instance, they're going to cut way

940
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:41.480
<v Speaker 1>back on the number of baseball players, for instance, who

941
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>can be on a roster. They are gonna be kids,

942
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to have a ripple effect all the

943
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>way down to high school recruits who won't be playing

944
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Division one college baseball or Division two three whatever. So

945
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible.

946
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.519
<v Speaker 6>And listen, I think, you know, I think what the

947
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:58.960
<v Speaker 6>lady that I look at is, you know, you have

948
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 6>a lot of Olympics they're getting shut down because they

949
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:06.280
<v Speaker 6>can't And that is really that that's not only hurting

950
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 6>the university, that's hurting opportunities for kids to compete at

951
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:14.559
<v Speaker 6>those levels in a sport that they chose to play,

952
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 6>you know, because they were good at it, you know.

953
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 6>And so it's almost like, well, if you're not playing

954
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 6>football or basketball or even baseball, we're sorry about your luck.

955
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, we don't have a team a roster spot.

956
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 6>You know, you're gonna have to think about doing this

957
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:34.159
<v Speaker 6>at another place and maybe not even going to your

958
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 6>dream school. And it's just because a kid is good

959
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 6>at or chose a sport that's not considered to be

960
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 6>a money making sport, which is real and that's really sad.

961
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 6>And when you look at it hurting the collegiate level,

962
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.679
<v Speaker 6>I mean, shoot, it may hurt the Olympic level. Yeah,

963
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, you don't have players developing in college that

964
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 6>are playing golf, swimming, track and field. You know, what's

965
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:01.639
<v Speaker 6>that going to do to the Olympics in a couple

966
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:04.760
<v Speaker 6>of years. Are there going to be enough people to compete?

967
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:06.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure there will, but will it be at a

968
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:09.679
<v Speaker 6>higher level like it has been? You know, I mean

969
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:14.000
<v Speaker 6>there's all kinds of unknowns that that people are talking about. Man,

970
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.159
<v Speaker 6>it's just kind of blows your mind to hear them all.

971
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Talking to j Aravan, who's a few minutes left where

972
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.559
<v Speaker 1>a former Kentucky Mister Basketball Parade All American at Paintsville

973
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.039
<v Speaker 1>High School went onto a Hall of Fame career at

974
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Marshall And we've been talking about the portal, and of

975
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 1>course Nil and I don't know if the word is plagued,

976
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:35.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's certainly affected sports up and down the level,

977
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.000
<v Speaker 1>from college down really to middle school with kids bouncing around.

978
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>But let me get back to your career at Marshall.

979
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>As I said, I have a couple of friends who

980
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:48.199
<v Speaker 1>cover the tragedy and I'm wondering on campus there, Jay are,

981
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>when you got there, how cognizant of it did you become?

982
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.079
<v Speaker 1>How much did you know about it when you got there,

983
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Because it was about twenty years after the accident that

984
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 1>you and it's been another what twenty years or so,

985
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 1>But I've not been on that campus in a long time,

986
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:08.519
<v Speaker 1>but I wonder what it's like to be an athlete

987
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 1>on that campus.

988
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, I'll tell you this. You know, in the recruiting

989
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 6>process even you know, there were a couple of people

990
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:19.159
<v Speaker 6>from the area who had played football at Marshall.

991
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:19.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

992
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:23.280
<v Speaker 6>I actually graduated high school with a girl whose dad

993
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:26.000
<v Speaker 6>was on the Young Thundering Herd. He was he was

994
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 6>one of the players that Marshall brought in. He was

995
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.760
<v Speaker 6>from Buffalo, New York, YEP to continue the football program.

996
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.840
<v Speaker 6>So it's kind of ironic, but I did know the story.

997
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 6>One of the gentlemen killed on the plane crash. Roger

998
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:41.320
<v Speaker 6>van Over he was actually from Van Leer, which is

999
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.880
<v Speaker 6>in Johnson County, but had gone to high school in Russell,

1000
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:47.239
<v Speaker 6>and so that that story was always around. The story

1001
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:50.039
<v Speaker 6>was always around, and so it was a big part

1002
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 6>of the culture at Marshall. I mean, you honor those people.

1003
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:57.880
<v Speaker 6>Some of my very best friends were impacted. You know,

1004
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.920
<v Speaker 6>Keith Morehouse, who still does sports for w SEZ lost

1005
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 6>his father in the plane crash, you know, and his

1006
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.519
<v Speaker 6>wife lost her parents in the plane crash. And so

1007
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, you meet these people throughout your time there

1008
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 6>at Marshall and you're just like, I can't believe that.

1009
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:18.760
<v Speaker 6>You know, you're actually meeting people that this tragedy affected

1010
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:21.400
<v Speaker 6>the way it did. And you know, when they hurt,

1011
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 6>you hurt, especially when your friends and so you know,

1012
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.920
<v Speaker 6>you just always think about them, especially when that time

1013
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.159
<v Speaker 6>rolls around every year, and you know, it's just it

1014
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 6>is a big part of Marshall's a big part of

1015
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.599
<v Speaker 6>who we are because you know, we came back from

1016
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:42.440
<v Speaker 6>that moment and our football program, I believe at one

1017
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.599
<v Speaker 6>time was called the winningest Division I program in the

1018
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:48.199
<v Speaker 6>nineteen nineties. You know, we had more wins than even

1019
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 6>in Alabama.

1020
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so.

1021
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:54.519
<v Speaker 6>You know, to go from that moment to national championships,

1022
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 6>conference championships, I mean, that's that's just astonishing to me.

1023
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Marshall became a real power. In one double A

1024
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was a rival of EKU. I covered the playoff game

1025
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 1>over there is one of the best games I ever covered,

1026
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:09.159
<v Speaker 1>and that was special. He is Jr.

1027
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:12.639
<v Speaker 6>Van, you know, And and we had Hosman finalists too,

1028
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:16.639
<v Speaker 6>Dad Diennington, Randy Moss, right, you know the list of

1029
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:18.519
<v Speaker 6>players who have come through there. I mean, it's just

1030
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 6>to go from that tragedy and all of the things

1031
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 6>that had happened to what Marshall football he is, it

1032
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 6>is just it's amazing in mine.

1033
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Jr. Van, who's former mister basketball and Marshall Hall of Famer.

1034
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your time. We'll call back and check with you.

1035
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:41.119
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk some more basketball during Sweet sixteen. How's that?

1036
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.079
<v Speaker 6>That sounds good? That sounds good. And in the meantime,

1037
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.280
<v Speaker 6>if I can get some in ile money from me, body,

1038
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:48.519
<v Speaker 6>you know, please please don't hesitate to contact me.

1039
00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll see what I can do. All my best to

1040
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:51.679
<v Speaker 1>your wife.

1041
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:53.920
<v Speaker 6>All right, thank you, we'll come.

1042
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Back and take a look at the Kentucky volleyball season

1043
00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:58.280
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the break here on six thirty,

1044
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Wlap join us on Celebrity Heartline as a longtime friend

1045
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 1>of the show. You've heard him well, he used to

1046
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:07.159
<v Speaker 1>hear him on Cameron Mills' radio show regularly. Hunter Mitchell

1047
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.039
<v Speaker 1>joined us now and then to talk Kentucky volleyball. Hunter,

1048
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately the season is over. But I got to ask

1049
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you if you and I had spoken back when Kentucky

1050
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.039
<v Speaker 1>was losing to the likes of you know, well, let's

1051
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.599
<v Speaker 1>not even talk about Auburn. I thought that was a

1052
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:28.440
<v Speaker 1>real surprise. But you know, Stanford, Louisville, Purdue, the opener

1053
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.440
<v Speaker 1>against the over in Louisville against Nebraska. If I had

1054
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 1>told you that they would have won SEC and made

1055
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:40.320
<v Speaker 1>it to the Elite eight, would you believe me?

1056
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:43.400
<v Speaker 7>Not even a little bit, especially the SEC part with

1057
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 7>Texas joining the league. I don't think anyone thought. I

1058
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:47.800
<v Speaker 7>mean obviously no one day Kentucky was six third in

1059
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.440
<v Speaker 7>the preseason in the league. But I don't think anyone

1060
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.760
<v Speaker 7>thought that the SEC championship was going to come back

1061
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.880
<v Speaker 7>to Lexington, and certainly not in Elite eight. So for

1062
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 7>all intents and purposes, the Cats very much exceeded expectation.

1063
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I think this year, how did they do that?

1064
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 7>You know, when we looked at it, the way the

1065
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:07.239
<v Speaker 7>team was playing early in the year, their problems were

1066
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.039
<v Speaker 7>very similar to what happened last year. If you remember. Offensively,

1067
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 7>they started really slow last year with Brooklyn being a

1068
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.000
<v Speaker 7>freshman and just all the new pieces, it just took

1069
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 7>a while to get the offense going. Ben Josephson came

1070
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 7>in and I think utilized a lot of stuff that

1071
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:22.000
<v Speaker 7>we see in the mind game, with the idea of

1072
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.880
<v Speaker 7>resetting the block, you know, by intentionally throwing the ball

1073
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:27.679
<v Speaker 7>into the block to get the point recycled, and then

1074
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:30.119
<v Speaker 7>also just how fast the offense he wanted to bring

1075
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:31.480
<v Speaker 7>it in. So I think it took a while for

1076
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:33.519
<v Speaker 7>the offense to adjust last year. I think you saw

1077
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 7>that again this year. Even though a lot of those

1078
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.679
<v Speaker 7>players came back, you had some freshmen mintal blockers that

1079
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 7>had to get used to the tempo behind Emma, and

1080
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:42.599
<v Speaker 7>so there was just a lot of stuff that they

1081
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:45.079
<v Speaker 7>were early in the season really struggling to figure out.

1082
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 7>And again we know how Craig's schedules, he schedules, the

1083
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:50.159
<v Speaker 7>likes of the Nebraska's and the Penn States and the Stanfords.

1084
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.239
<v Speaker 7>All that comes early, and so unfortunately, when you're learning,

1085
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.079
<v Speaker 7>you don't really get to learn during a lot of wins.

1086
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:59.239
<v Speaker 7>And so they showed slashes. If you think about it,

1087
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:03.599
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky was not swept except for Texas and obviously yesterday

1088
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:06.039
<v Speaker 7>against Pittsburgh all season long. And you mentioned they played

1089
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:09.679
<v Speaker 7>Nebraska and Louisville and Stanford and like all these teams

1090
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:12.199
<v Speaker 7>and they were only slipped twice. So we saw, yeah,

1091
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 7>Penn State had they were up two zero on Penn State. Yeah,

1092
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.800
<v Speaker 7>like we saw flashes of how good this team could be,

1093
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:19.559
<v Speaker 7>but they just couldn't put it together consistently. And then

1094
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.440
<v Speaker 7>sec play came and it seemed like they really settled

1095
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 7>into who they were and their identity. And once they

1096
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:27.480
<v Speaker 7>did that and they got the offense rolling, you started

1097
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 7>to see this team really click and really lean into

1098
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 7>who they were and leaning to each other. And I

1099
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:33.320
<v Speaker 7>think that's a big reason why they were able to

1100
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.360
<v Speaker 7>run off that success in the Southeastern Conference.

1101
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that Pittsburgh match, you know, Pittsburgh wins set one.

1102
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, all right, Okay, Kentucky is up twenty two

1103
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to sixteen, and Set two in that run that Pittsburgh

1104
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.480
<v Speaker 1>makes is gonna haunt Craig Skinner's dreams, I know and

1105
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:55.639
<v Speaker 1>all those kids. A nine to one run by Pittsburgh. Kentucky,

1106
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:58.840
<v Speaker 1>it had its way in your eyes. What the heck

1107
01:00:58.960 --> 01:00:59.559
<v Speaker 1>happened there?

1108
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:00.639
<v Speaker 6>You know?

1109
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:02.599
<v Speaker 7>It's funny you same question if you would have told

1110
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:04.440
<v Speaker 7>me yesterday going into that pit match that they were

1111
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.079
<v Speaker 7>going to out hoold Pit to less kills than them,

1112
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:09.119
<v Speaker 7>that it wasn't going to be Alivia Babcock going off.

1113
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 7>She's only going to have like thirteen kills, like I

1114
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:13.559
<v Speaker 7>would have thought, Oh wait, Kentucky might have won that game.

1115
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 7>But Pittsburgh is just one of those teams that if

1116
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 7>you've watched them at all this season, they don't They

1117
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:20.519
<v Speaker 7>only lost one game that was to SMU. They're just

1118
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.079
<v Speaker 7>a team that they've been together forever. They've got some

1119
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.599
<v Speaker 7>fifth year seniors. Olivia Babcock and Tory Stafford are two

1120
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:30.119
<v Speaker 7>of the best hitters in the country and they're only sophomores.

1121
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.239
<v Speaker 7>So that was already going to be a tall order.

1122
01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:35.519
<v Speaker 7>And you're also playing in pit. That first set, though,

1123
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky early it looked like they were overmatched, and then

1124
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:40.920
<v Speaker 7>they settled into it again. They said, they started playing

1125
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:42.960
<v Speaker 7>their game, and they made it a game. They made

1126
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:44.800
<v Speaker 7>it a one point game late until Pit closed it

1127
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:46.599
<v Speaker 7>out on a little two oh run there at the end.

1128
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.960
<v Speaker 7>In the second set, it was all Kentucky service pressure, right,

1129
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.519
<v Speaker 7>which going into the match, the only way Kentucky was

1130
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 7>going to win that game is if they applied ridiculous

1131
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:56.840
<v Speaker 7>service pressure on Pitt, and they did in the second

1132
01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.400
<v Speaker 7>set and twenty two to sixteen lead. Actually, it back

1133
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:03.360
<v Speaker 7>today and watch that part of the match, only that

1134
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 7>part of the match when they went up twenty through sixteen.

1135
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.599
<v Speaker 7>Just what in the world happened? And if you watch it,

1136
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 7>Brooklyn only got set one time in that run. Now,

1137
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:13.719
<v Speaker 7>part of that is she was in the back row,

1138
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 7>so obviously when you're in the back row, it's a

1139
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:18.679
<v Speaker 7>bit harder. But Kentucky has gone off of the arm

1140
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:20.960
<v Speaker 7>of delay all season long. It's one of those things

1141
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:22.679
<v Speaker 7>where you know, when you're playing a team like Pitt,

1142
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.159
<v Speaker 7>you want to make sure your offense is balanced that way,

1143
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:27.679
<v Speaker 7>the block can't just camp on Brooklyn. But you also

1144
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:29.800
<v Speaker 7>have to make sure that you just ride your best player,

1145
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.159
<v Speaker 7>and so I think unfortunately Kentucky tried to get a

1146
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 7>little bit too cute, They tried to get the others

1147
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:36.440
<v Speaker 7>involved too much. And when a team is coming back

1148
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:38.480
<v Speaker 7>like that, at a point you just have to say,

1149
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.159
<v Speaker 7>you know what, we're going to ride with delay, and

1150
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:42.239
<v Speaker 7>if we go down with delay swinging, then we go

1151
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:44.440
<v Speaker 7>down with delay slinging. And unfortunately she just didn't get

1152
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:46.800
<v Speaker 7>the ball enough. And I think that was a really

1153
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:48.559
<v Speaker 7>big part of it. The crowd came back into it,

1154
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 7>and with Brooklyn in the back, they just they couldn't

1155
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:53.840
<v Speaker 7>side out terminally, which is a problem that they had

1156
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:56.639
<v Speaker 7>had at points in the season against good competition. It's

1157
01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:58.559
<v Speaker 7>still kind of felt like at times they were missing

1158
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 7>a second left side hitter. And unfortunately Aaron Lamb just

1159
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 7>she struggled yesterday against that big pit block. So they

1160
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.400
<v Speaker 7>just they especially in that rotation when Brooklyn was in

1161
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 7>the back, they just could never really sat out.

1162
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and a healthy Asia thig Pen I'm sure would

1163
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:15.159
<v Speaker 1>have helped, But at five ten, I don't know how

1164
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:18.960
<v Speaker 1>much damage she could have done against them bigs for Pittsburgh, you.

1165
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:21.639
<v Speaker 7>Know, Yeah, And it would be hard to throw her

1166
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 7>into her really her first instill of the tournament game

1167
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.519
<v Speaker 7>against it. She played a little bit in some garbage

1168
01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:28.760
<v Speaker 7>time in the previous rounds, but that would have been like, hey,

1169
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:30.920
<v Speaker 7>this is it. We really need you to go, and

1170
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.519
<v Speaker 7>so that would have been tough. But you know, some

1171
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:36.239
<v Speaker 7>obviously in hindsight's twenty twenty, so you think, well, maybe

1172
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:37.440
<v Speaker 7>we should don't know what to tig pin and see

1173
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:41.440
<v Speaker 7>what would happen. But I do think that it's helpful

1174
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:44.199
<v Speaker 7>looking towards next year. What Stigpin showed you this year

1175
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.599
<v Speaker 7>is really really encouraging. And that's obviously not looking at

1176
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:49.360
<v Speaker 7>what Hannah Benjamin could be. It's not looking at what

1177
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:51.559
<v Speaker 7>Georgia Watson could be as a freshman coming in. Like,

1178
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:53.559
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky's got a lot of really good pieces on the

1179
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 7>outside next year. Obviously, this year, with all the injuries

1180
01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:58.320
<v Speaker 7>like that is a refreshing thing to see if you're

1181
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky fan, because there's a actually hopefully going to be

1182
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:03.639
<v Speaker 7>a flew of talent there on that left pin.

1183
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:06.519
<v Speaker 1>But they do say goodbye to Ammigrom the best now

1184
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:09.840
<v Speaker 1>statistically set her in the history of the program. But

1185
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:13.280
<v Speaker 1>they've said goodbye to Madison Lily. They said goodbye to

1186
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Morgan Berg. So you know who's next.

1187
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:17.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1188
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:19.880
<v Speaker 7>So it's funny because when Madison left, that was the

1189
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:22.039
<v Speaker 7>big question, right, like, oh my gosh, how is this

1190
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 7>coaching staff going to replace Madison freaking Lily? You know,

1191
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:27.159
<v Speaker 7>at the time, the best setter that Kentucky'd ever seen,

1192
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:28.960
<v Speaker 7>one of the best collegiate setters that we have seen

1193
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:32.760
<v Speaker 7>play the game anywhere the year, the national player of

1194
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:35.159
<v Speaker 7>the Year, who won the team that the program's first title.

1195
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:36.920
<v Speaker 7>Like all of those things were true, there was a

1196
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:39.239
<v Speaker 7>lot of questions, who on earth is going to replace

1197
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:41.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, Madison, whether that was a transfer portal player,

1198
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.840
<v Speaker 7>whether it was a freshman coming in and Emma came

1199
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 7>in and really from the minute that she was on

1200
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:50.159
<v Speaker 7>campus was superb. She just carried herself with that kind

1201
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.320
<v Speaker 7>of confidence. And that's what you need to cetter. You

1202
01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:54.960
<v Speaker 7>had a confidence setter that is sure of where she's

1203
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.119
<v Speaker 7>setting the ball. A The fact that Matison Lily is

1204
01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.719
<v Speaker 7>now on your coaching staff, regardless of who is your setter,

1205
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:02.480
<v Speaker 7>is an incredible asset. Like the fact that she is

1206
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 7>over there. Whoever she's training next year is going to

1207
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:07.599
<v Speaker 7>be in good hands. But secondly, keep in mind Ava

1208
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:09.679
<v Speaker 7>Sarafa was supposed to come in as a freshman and

1209
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:12.719
<v Speaker 7>actually challenge Emma grown for that starting spot. I think

1210
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:15.760
<v Speaker 7>there was a little bit of some some confidence problems

1211
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:17.320
<v Speaker 7>when she came in, just trying to figure out the

1212
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:19.400
<v Speaker 7>college game. It's obviously very different. The speed of the

1213
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:21.880
<v Speaker 7>game is very different. You're playing the SEC, so she

1214
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:24.280
<v Speaker 7>really didn't get there. But I think we saw her

1215
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:26.639
<v Speaker 7>in that serving specialist role, and as the season went on,

1216
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:29.079
<v Speaker 7>she looked like her confidence was through the root. Even

1217
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:32.639
<v Speaker 7>yesterday she was setting balls in transition when Emma was

1218
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:34.440
<v Speaker 7>out and she was serving or Emma was taking that

1219
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:37.639
<v Speaker 7>the first ball, excuse me, and she looked good. So

1220
01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:40.480
<v Speaker 7>I think there's some hope and some confidence that Ava

1221
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:41.599
<v Speaker 7>could could buy for it.

1222
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:42.719
<v Speaker 6>And then Cassie.

1223
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:44.800
<v Speaker 7>O'Brien the freshman coming in. She's a six to one setter.

1224
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.519
<v Speaker 7>That's a big setter, right, so they have some size

1225
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.559
<v Speaker 7>coming in now in the setting position, who I think

1226
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:50.800
<v Speaker 7>is also going to challenge for it.

1227
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, Madison was a tall setter.

1228
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:55.800
<v Speaker 7>She was I think Madison was five to eleven, so,

1229
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:58.039
<v Speaker 7>you know, a little taller than Emma and a little

1230
01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:00.360
<v Speaker 7>shorter than Cassie. So we'll see again, I think with

1231
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.760
<v Speaker 7>Ava and Cassie, they've got a nice little battle. We'll

1232
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.679
<v Speaker 7>see who wins it next year. You know, I haven't

1233
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:07.599
<v Speaker 7>gotten to watch Cassie play a whole lot, and I

1234
01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:09.360
<v Speaker 7>haven't really gotten to watch Ava play in the setting

1235
01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:12.079
<v Speaker 7>position a whole lot. But I think that again, with

1236
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.000
<v Speaker 7>Madison on the coaching staff, the setter position is going

1237
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:16.679
<v Speaker 7>to be well taken care of it and we'll figure

1238
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:18.800
<v Speaker 7>it out. There might be some growing pains, There probably

1239
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:22.039
<v Speaker 7>will be, and so it's gonna take some adjusting. But again,

1240
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:24.360
<v Speaker 7>we've seen Kentucky the last two years now have those

1241
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<v Speaker 7>growing pains early in the season and they've overcome them.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, I think there's reason to be encouraged

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<v Speaker 7>given the setting position and what's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>In talking to Hunter Mitchell, he covers UK volleyball for

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01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.639
<v Speaker 1>on three dot com and has covered the Wildcats for

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01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:41.639
<v Speaker 1>a long time, taking pictures written about him, tweeted about him.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see anybody covering volleyball the way you see

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter do it. You mentioned Brooklyn delay twenty two kills yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a surprise, you know, I guess we should have

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01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.199
<v Speaker 1>seen this coming in that she was freshman of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, Well, let me put it to you this way.

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01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Were you surprised she did win Player of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>not Kennedy Martin from Florida?

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<v Speaker 7>I actually was, Yeah, I really expected Kennedy Martin to

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01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 7>win it, just because Kennedy has had so many thirty

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01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:10.960
<v Speaker 7>bomb games. Yeah, and as the right side, thirty kills

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01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:13.320
<v Speaker 7>is hard because you weren't always getting as many opportunities

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01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:15.280
<v Speaker 7>as the outside is because it's harder to set the

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01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:18.360
<v Speaker 7>right side in transition on nouns system ball. So I

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<v Speaker 7>was surprised to see Brooklyn get it. But when you

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<v Speaker 7>look at what Brooklyn did this year, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 7>argue that she didn't deserve it. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>surprised by what Brooklyn did, but at the same time,

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01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:30.039
<v Speaker 7>a little bit like she was ridiculous. That she was

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<v Speaker 7>ridiculous as a freshman. I didn't think she could get

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01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:35.440
<v Speaker 7>that much better as a sophomore, and we hear about

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01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:37.519
<v Speaker 7>sophomore slumps all the time. Brooklyn doesn't even know what

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<v Speaker 7>that means. She just she was superb this year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>she was averaging darn near five six kills per set.

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<v Speaker 7>Me install the tournament, you think they're playing Minnesota, they're

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01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:48.239
<v Speaker 7>playing Pittsburgh. I mean in Pittsburgh they played three sets.

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<v Speaker 7>She had twenty two kills, so she averaged over seven

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01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:52.599
<v Speaker 7>kills a set. And she also hit three forty five

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<v Speaker 7>against the pitt team that's one of the best blocking

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01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:56.760
<v Speaker 7>teams in the country. Like, she is just a ridiculously

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01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:59.719
<v Speaker 7>talented left side. And I was texting Edmond yesterday and

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01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:01.800
<v Speaker 7>I said, you know, Leah, I hate saying that you're

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01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:03.800
<v Speaker 7>right because I'm just I'm tired of telling you. But

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01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:07.280
<v Speaker 7>you know, when Brooklyn before the season last year, she said,

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<v Speaker 7>you got to watch out for Brooklyn Delay now, like

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01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:11.000
<v Speaker 7>she's really good. She could make a viye for my

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01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:13.440
<v Speaker 7>kills record depending on how much she plays. And I

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01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:15.760
<v Speaker 7>thought she was crazy. But if Brooklyn keeps this up,

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01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:18.359
<v Speaker 7>she could I don't know, they might need some some

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01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.399
<v Speaker 7>deep tournament runs. But if she keeps bombing twenty plus

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01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:22.800
<v Speaker 7>kill games, and you got to think she had a

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<v Speaker 7>thirty kill game this year, which has only been done

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01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:28.439
<v Speaker 7>by like three other players in Kentucky's history. So and

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<v Speaker 7>when you look at that, serve how much better from

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01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:33.279
<v Speaker 7>behind the service line she got, like the room for improvement.

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<v Speaker 7>The fact that Kentucky still gives her for two more years,

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01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:37.439
<v Speaker 7>and they already made an Elite eight with her as

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01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:39.319
<v Speaker 7>a sophomore. Like, there is a lot of reason to

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01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:41.399
<v Speaker 7>be really excited about what Brooklyn can be as a

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01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.479
<v Speaker 7>junior and even as a senior, because because this guy

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<v Speaker 7>is the woman with her. She is a ridiculously talent outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, and when you look at stats, you

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01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:52.199
<v Speaker 1>look at kills. Yes, but I think her overall game

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<v Speaker 1>may have pushed her to the top when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to player of the year. Plus you know, playing for

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01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the team that won the SEC championship that helps.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it does.

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01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:04.199
<v Speaker 7>And Brooklyn, you know, you mentioned that she made a

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01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.439
<v Speaker 7>lot of improvements in her blocking game. She made a

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01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:08.239
<v Speaker 7>lot of improvements in the fit in defense. In the

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01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:10.680
<v Speaker 7>back row, she had improvements oftensively in the back row.

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<v Speaker 7>She was almost as good, if not better, in the

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01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:13.680
<v Speaker 7>background than she was in the front row.

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<v Speaker 6>This year.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, they started running her out of the middle back,

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01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.279
<v Speaker 7>they started running on the right back. They stared using

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01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 7>her on the slide attack on the right back. Like,

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01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:23.279
<v Speaker 7>they got really creative with how they moved Brooklyn around

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01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:25.760
<v Speaker 7>and used her offense this year and again to be

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01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:28.800
<v Speaker 7>able to do that with a sophomore is really really impressive.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think, you know, especially as Kentucky loses some

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01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:34.119
<v Speaker 7>pieces that have been big leaders over the last several

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01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:37.359
<v Speaker 7>years and Aaron Lamb and mcgrome and Eleanor Bevin, having

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01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:39.680
<v Speaker 7>Brooklyn there now be as good as she has been

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<v Speaker 7>and also kind of it seems like really settling into

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01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:45.560
<v Speaker 7>that leadership role and have the confidence that she's got

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01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:47.720
<v Speaker 7>is really really beneficial for what Kentucky's going to be

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01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:48.520
<v Speaker 7>the next two years.

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<v Speaker 1>More with Hunter Mitchell from on three dot com when

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01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:54.239
<v Speaker 1>we come back on six point thirty WLAP Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Hunter Mitchell, who covers volleyball UK volleyball

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<v Speaker 1>for on three dot com. You mentioned Texas and uh,

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01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no sense crying over the proverbial spilled milk,

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01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:10.600
<v Speaker 1>but Kentucky loses two really good players and Reagan Rutherford

1330
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:15.279
<v Speaker 1>and especially Maddie Skinner to Texas. You think about the

1331
01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:18.920
<v Speaker 1>portal when it comes to football, baseball, and basketball, but boy,

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<v Speaker 1>it affects every sport, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>He does, Yeah, and Texas was a team that again

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01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:25.560
<v Speaker 7>I told Leo she was right about this. She told

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01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.239
<v Speaker 7>me coming into the year. Hey, don't just give it

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01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.920
<v Speaker 7>to Texas now or remember, the transfer portal affects everybody,

1337
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.680
<v Speaker 7>So everybody's getting players like this, and I think the

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01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:35.359
<v Speaker 7>parody in the entire sport we've seen, you know, like

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01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:37.640
<v Speaker 7>Creighton this year for example, Crayton's been good, but they're

1340
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.319
<v Speaker 7>top five good. You know, at least get Singer went

1341
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:41.000
<v Speaker 7>over to Creighton and they just they're not. They knocked

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01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.960
<v Speaker 7>Texas out this weekend. So the parody and the whole

1343
01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:46.279
<v Speaker 7>sport all over the place is really good. And that

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01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:48.680
<v Speaker 7>transfer portal has really really been a big part of that.

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01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:51.520
<v Speaker 7>Craig he uses it when needed, But Craig likes to

1346
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:54.319
<v Speaker 7>develop his players as freshmen, which I think you've you've

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01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:57.840
<v Speaker 7>seen the the fruits of with Emma and Eleanor and Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean just recently, like man, my goodness, their growth

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01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 7>from freshmen to just sophomore and senior for mong them

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01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.159
<v Speaker 7>has been superb. Yeah, the transfer pot is a big weapon,

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01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.479
<v Speaker 7>and you're starting to see more parody across the entire sport.

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01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:14.199
<v Speaker 7>Now it's not always just Stanford and Penn State winning it.

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01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:15.880
<v Speaker 7>Now you're seeing a lot more teams that have never

1354
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:18.560
<v Speaker 7>won it before actually make national championship games and actually

1355
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:19.720
<v Speaker 7>win it. So it's really cool to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I think it would be nice if Pittsburgh

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01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:24.439
<v Speaker 1>goes on to win it, right, I mean the team

1358
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that a way to Kentucky.

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01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, And I think Kentucky fans probably would probably

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01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:29.800
<v Speaker 7>like that if they knocked Louisville out. You know, you

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01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:31.439
<v Speaker 7>don't you don't really want to see louvill win it,

1362
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:31.960
<v Speaker 7>do you? I mean?

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01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:32.800
<v Speaker 6>Right?

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01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:35.439
<v Speaker 1>But you know it's like you said, it's a new face.

1365
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:40.479
<v Speaker 1>But ESPN, I guess was did a terrific piece on

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01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:43.640
<v Speaker 1>how close pitt has come. I mean you talk about

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01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:48.479
<v Speaker 1>a driven team against Kentucky. I mean they were absolutely

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01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:52.560
<v Speaker 1>focused because they were so bitterly disappointed each of the

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01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.000
<v Speaker 1>last two years.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, Yeah, Pitt's been knocking on the door for a

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01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:58.680
<v Speaker 7>very long time with this group, which also is a

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01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.000
<v Speaker 7>big part of it. And when you look at when

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01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.920
<v Speaker 7>you have hitters like Vasquez Gomez and Tory Stafford and

1374
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:07.079
<v Speaker 7>Lyudia Badcock, a center like Rachel Fairbanks, like that team

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01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:10.079
<v Speaker 7>is just loaded at every position. And you mentioned it,

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01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:12.600
<v Speaker 7>they've been so close so many times. I would be

1377
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:15.239
<v Speaker 7>very I thought before the tournament started that it's Pits

1378
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:18.279
<v Speaker 7>to lose. The pit is the overall favorite. They have

1379
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:21.680
<v Speaker 7>looked the best in the country all season long, even

1380
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:24.600
<v Speaker 7>games do they look quote unquote bad, like against Oregon

1381
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.279
<v Speaker 7>for example, the round before Kentucky, like Orgon, exposed a

1382
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:30.279
<v Speaker 7>lot of weaknesses in Pitt's game, but Kentucky tried to

1383
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.479
<v Speaker 7>exploit right and Kentucky did to a degree, but pitt

1384
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:35.359
<v Speaker 7>covered them. I mean, I thought that a lot of

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01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:38.680
<v Speaker 7>the things that Kentucky was trying again in that run

1386
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:40.640
<v Speaker 7>in the second set when they went up twenty to sixteen,

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01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:44.000
<v Speaker 7>pitt adjusted on the fly really quickly. And they just

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01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:47.000
<v Speaker 7>have so much confidence. That's a team that knows that

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01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:49.359
<v Speaker 7>they've been right there, and I think that they know

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01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:52.000
<v Speaker 7>how good they are, and they know their identity and

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01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:55.199
<v Speaker 7>their pieces. And when you have athletes that are a

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01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.279
<v Speaker 7>that good but we also know and play within their identity,

1393
01:12:58.319 --> 01:12:59.960
<v Speaker 7>it's just really hard to be a team like that.

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01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:04.000
<v Speaker 7>And again I thought Kentucky played them closer than I

1395
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.359
<v Speaker 7>thought they would, not that I thought Kentucky was bad

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01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:08.600
<v Speaker 7>and just going to get blown out, But again, Pittsburgh

1397
01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:10.359
<v Speaker 7>is just that good. I did not think that Kentucky

1398
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:11.960
<v Speaker 7>would be up twenty two sixteen in one of the

1399
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:15.720
<v Speaker 7>sets pitch, they just imposed their will on you, and

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01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:18.279
<v Speaker 7>it's just really really hard to beat that team. Obviously

1401
01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:19.479
<v Speaker 7>only one team half, so.

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01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I thought Kentucky was extremely competitive with Pitt. Yeah, I

1403
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:28.520
<v Speaker 1>was pleasantly surprised, and like you said, twenty two to sixteen,

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01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, this is going to be interesting if

1405
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:32.960
<v Speaker 1>they can finish this up and get it into a

1406
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:35.479
<v Speaker 1>third and four set. But we know, like you said,

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01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:38.079
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how many times where I thought,

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01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:39.159
<v Speaker 1>well that's down, that's.

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<v Speaker 7>A point, but kept it alive and that was the game, Dick, Yeah,

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01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:46.000
<v Speaker 7>that was the game. When they lost that run, you

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01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:48.479
<v Speaker 7>knew that the it was over just because the confidence

1412
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:51.560
<v Speaker 7>that you're up twenty two to sixteen, which in volleyball,

1413
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:53.920
<v Speaker 7>like you have a six point lead. Really in any set,

1414
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:57.000
<v Speaker 7>it's hard to overcome, especially when you're only three points

1415
01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:59.760
<v Speaker 7>away just be between service errors and hitting errors, like,

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01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:01.720
<v Speaker 7>it's really hard to lose a lead like that. The

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01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:03.960
<v Speaker 7>other team has to play Basically, it's like being up

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01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:07.119
<v Speaker 7>fifteen with three minutes to go on basketball, like, it's

1419
01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:09.560
<v Speaker 7>very unlikely that it's going to be overcome. And so

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<v Speaker 7>when they lost that lead, you just you knew, like

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01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:15.079
<v Speaker 7>what else do we have to do? Like we were

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01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 7>just up six, three points away, and even that didn't

1423
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:19.960
<v Speaker 7>do it. And you think, you know, you'd like to

1424
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:22.720
<v Speaker 7>think if that match gets tied one to one, you

1425
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:25.279
<v Speaker 7>have all the momentum on your side, and you've exploited

1426
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:27.960
<v Speaker 7>a lot of the things that you wanted to exploit,

1427
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:29.800
<v Speaker 7>and you really didn't play well in the first set

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01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:31.319
<v Speaker 7>and you almost won that one. So you've got to

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01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:33.279
<v Speaker 7>think that their confidence would have been like, hey, we

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01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:36.199
<v Speaker 7>got this. And so when they lost that lead, you

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01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:38.520
<v Speaker 7>just kind of knew, like, there's just it would take

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01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:42.560
<v Speaker 7>a herculean effort, in a miraculous collapse on Pittsburgh's parts

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01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.239
<v Speaker 7>for them to actually come back. And so that was

1434
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:46.840
<v Speaker 7>the game that right there was the game when they

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01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:47.880
<v Speaker 7>lost that run on Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Chucky was out playing pitt It's not like pitt was

1437
01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:54.279
<v Speaker 1>playing poorly. Kentucky's just playing better. And yeah, it just happens.

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01:14:54.279 --> 01:14:57.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's that volleyball. Momentum changes in volleyball more than

1439
01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:01.119
<v Speaker 1>any other sport, quicker than any other sport. Is wild, yeah,

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01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:03.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's what helps make it great. Hunter Mitchell, you

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01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:06.680
<v Speaker 1>can follow him on Twitter. Where do people see your work?

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01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:10.039
<v Speaker 6>You can follow me on Twitter at h Mitchell fourteen

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01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:13.960
<v Speaker 6>and then I've been writing on KSR on k sr's website.

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01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So sounds good, brother.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you see us soon, yes, sir, Thank you, Dick.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was a remarkable season when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>all those losses back at the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and not surprising because they were playing just a brutally

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<v Speaker 1>tough schedule, including Louisville, which is in the Final four

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<v Speaker 1>now playing on its home court. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to wonder was this the year that the streak

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01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:42.359
<v Speaker 1>would end when it came to Southeastern Conference championships. Turns

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01:15:42.439 --> 01:15:45.279
<v Speaker 1>out no, they won their a straight. Didn't look good

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<v Speaker 1>after they were swept by Texas, but then Texas began

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01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to falter and Kentucky took care of business and went

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<v Speaker 1>on to take the championship with the ability to host

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<v Speaker 1>for a seventh consecutive season. Craig Skinner, of course, was

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<v Speaker 1>proud of what happened this year winning the conference title,

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<v Speaker 1>but really proud, he said, of the way this team

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<v Speaker 1>battled back after the setbacks early in the year.

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<v Speaker 5>Outside of this particular match, I couldn't be more proud

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<v Speaker 5>of this team and doing this a long time, and

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<v Speaker 5>there's been very few that have those resilient, tough understanding

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<v Speaker 5>and seeing the value in each other and overcoming injuries,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, all kinds of things to get to this point,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, each one of them maximize their abilities

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<v Speaker 5>and maximize the potential of this team, and all fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>on the roster made a difference in you know, us

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<v Speaker 5>having the success that we did this year. So as

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<v Speaker 5>a staff and a coach, couldn't be more proud of

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<v Speaker 5>of what we'll accomplished this year.

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<v Speaker 1>One of Skinner's building blocks next season will be Brooke Baltima,

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01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:54.319
<v Speaker 1>who was a force on that front line up at

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<v Speaker 1>the net. She can score, and she talked after the match,

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<v Speaker 1>and again this is her freshman year. She's a red

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<v Speaker 1>shirt freshman after sitting at all last year injured. She

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the late run that this team made.

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<v Speaker 8>I think those are the things that I'm most proud

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<v Speaker 8>of this team because we went through a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>hard things. There are a lot of things that we

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<v Speaker 8>had to work through, and by the end, I mean

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<v Speaker 8>we I mean we were so close, we were so bonded,

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<v Speaker 8>Like our bond on the court was just the strongest

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<v Speaker 8>it's ever been and something that I just will hold

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<v Speaker 8>on to the rest of my life. That's I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 8>remember that more than the wins, more than the accolades,

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<v Speaker 8>more than anything else. So I think just the little

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<v Speaker 8>victories that we achieved together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll do it for now. Thanks to Jared Van

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01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:43.520
<v Speaker 1>who's Hunter Mitchell and Brian Milin. Back with you tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 1>That said good night from the garage in Lexington. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, son a flying waiver. You're built too low

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<v Speaker 1>a fast ones go over your head.

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<v Speaker 8>You got a hole in your glove.

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<v Speaker 4>I keep picking them and you keep missing them.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta keep your eye on the ball.
