WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:04.160 Time forty Channel nine, first forty one of forecast. They're 2 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:07.799 saying around noontime we get some storms showing up, possible 3 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:12.000 thunderstorms and maybe some hail. They say it's going to 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.759 be scattered. I don't know, I just read it Thotty. Otherwise, 5 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:18.920 high have seventy forty five overnight with just a few clowns, 6 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.199 leaving us a sunny day on Friday with the highest 7 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:25.160 sixty seven, sparse clouds overnight dropp into forty four, and 8 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:28.519 a dry weekend with the highest seventy one on Saturday 9 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:33.079 and partly blody skies fifty nine now typer traffics from. 10 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:35.159 The U Scout Traffic Center. When it comes to stroke, 11 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.240 every second counts. That's why you See Health is the 12 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:40.960 clear choice for a wrap up wife saving treatment. Learn 13 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:44.399 more at you sehealth dot com. Northbound seventy five and 14 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:47.679 an extra five out of Arrow Linger into downtown southbound 15 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:49.880 seventy five. You'll need a couple of extra minutes in 16 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.039 and out of Blackland. Still no accidents on the highways 17 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:56.640 through where we're at About southbound two seventy five. Continued 18 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.240 slow between the Lawrence Burg ramp and the bridge Kingbram 19 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.200 fifty five KRC the talk station. 20 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:06.519 It's seven point thirty here pe five KRC Talk station, 21 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.319 pushing Ember one, a very happy Thursday, and welcoming to 22 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:13.480 the fifty five KRC Morning Show. A man who's interested 23 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:16.120 in what's going with Hyde Park Square. Hyde Park Square 24 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:18.920 organizer Todds ins or Todd's or John. Rather, John, it's 25 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:20.480 good have you on the program this morning. Thanks for 26 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:23.719 joining the show, glad to join it. To thank you, Brian, 27 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:26.000 And I think my listening audience is quite familiar with it, 28 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:27.640 because I've talked about it a lot. I found it 29 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:32.120 rather insulting that Sincinni City Council refused to give into 30 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:36.000 what the residents of Hyde Park One in terms of zoning. First, 31 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:39.879 they foisted connected communities on all of the Cincinnati neighborhoods 32 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.560 without input from the neighborhoods. And then they offered an 33 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.159 opportunity for a waiver two connected communities requirements to these 34 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.680 well connected developers to put in a hotel, which obviously 35 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.840 is going to dominate the landscape of Hyde Park Square 36 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.400 because of its height, as well as the fact that 37 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:56.400 maybe it's a hotel that people don't want because of 38 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:58.560 congestion and traffic and everything else that goes along with 39 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:02.519 that development. Now do you get the sense I saw 40 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.439 all the signs and I knew it was well organized 41 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:09.439 campaign in favor of Hyde Park residents determining their own destiny. 42 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.439 Do you get the sense in the community that everyone's 43 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:13.599 a little bit angry about what the council did. 44 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:16.800 I think anger might be a little bit strong of 45 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:19.319 a turn. There are definitely a lot of upset people, 46 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:21.439 And I want to be clear, this isn't a Hyde 47 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:24.319 Park issue. This is a city wide issue. You mentioned 48 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:29.560 connected communities fifty two neighborhoods across the city. Of those 49 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:34.120 fourteen other communities took votes to support Hyde Park and 50 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:38.879 asked council not to do this. For other civic organizations 51 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:41.800 also joined in with us and said don't do this. 52 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:46.159 This isn't what should be happening. The numbers that the 53 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:51.560 Sea Council saw were off the charts like nothing else previously. 54 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.319 This starts all the way back in January with the 55 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:58.680 Planning Commission staff event, which was a zoom call. They 56 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:02.479 had sixty some speak sixty three sixty four speakers. Four 57 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:05.439 of them are for the others were a posed. They 58 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:08.680 had over seven hundred pieces of email for that event 59 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.400 back in January. Then we you know, fast forward, go 60 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:16.199 through all the steps, the Planning Commission meeting, then you 61 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.120 have the committee, the Equitable Growth and Housing Committee, then 62 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.479 you have finally the council vote. At every one of 63 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:30.039 those steps, they saw overwhelming public turnout, email, phone calling, 64 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:34.599 et cetera, and effectively a deaf ear And to me, 65 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.520 that's what's important right now, Safe hyde Park Square is 66 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:42.360 launched a referendum. We are working to get the petitions 67 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.400 that we need in order to put this on the 68 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:50.199 ballot in November. We need about fifteen thousand signatures in 69 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.520 a little under a month, so we are working hard 70 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.360 at that, and we are doing it citywide because this 71 00:03:55.639 --> 00:04:00.400 isn't an issue just for Hyde Park. City Council isn't 72 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.759 listening to you regardless of where you are. And I 73 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:05.800 think most important, I think this ties in very much 74 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:08.199 with what I understand. You focus on a lote that 75 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:14.080 city council has literally said we're uninterested in neighborhood councils, 76 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.319 communitys in particular. 77 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:19.120 Well, and that's maybe why I characterize it as anger, 78 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:23.639 because candidly I feel anger on behalf of each of 79 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.680 those neighborhoods because I find it insulting you. This turns 80 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:29.439 the concept of representative government on its head. 81 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.839 I completely agree with you on that, and I think 82 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.759 certainly there are people and there are neighborhoods where the hanger, 83 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:38.519 I would say is higher and lower. I think everybody 84 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:41.920 in the Hyde Park case frustrated and perturbed about the 85 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:44.839 lack of listening. I know there's some other neighborhoods who 86 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:47.839 have had huge issues and fuel. If you want to 87 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:49.680 say anger, I just want to be careful by the 88 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:50.160 word like that. 89 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:52.560 I get it. I mean again, I don't want to 90 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:55.560 put words in your mouth or anybody else's mouth. That's 91 00:04:55.639 --> 00:05:00.000 my personal feeling because again, the concept of representative government, 92 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:05.519 we elect people to speak and provide and exercise the 93 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.879 will of the people as opposed to what they have 94 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:09.839 on their mind or whatever direction they want to go. 95 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:12.079 This is like, we have example. 96 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:17.720 After example of this council, this administration saying we know 97 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.800 better than you do and we're going to do what 98 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:24.279 we think is right. You've been touching on connected communities. 99 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.759 I'm no expert on that, but I have some familiarity 100 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:32.399 with it. The council, the mayor, has consistently said we 101 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.279 know what the city needs more than you. The people 102 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.560 know what the city needs. That's a challenge. I want 103 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.680 smart people lending ideas, bringing thought forward. But I know 104 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.879 there is a famous Japanese proverb, none of us are 105 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.040 as smart as all of us. And if we do 106 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:54.240 not involve the neighborhood councils, if we do not involve 107 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:58.519 citizen voice, we are not going to do the best 108 00:05:58.560 --> 00:05:59.680 things that we can do. 109 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.120 John Zinzer, let's pause, we'll bring you back. We'll talk 110 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:05.480 about the website, we'll talk about how people can get involved. 111 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.399 And once you to contemplate this. You know this city, 112 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:11.720 you know writ large, it's made up of all those 113 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:14.560 different neighborhoods, of fifty two neighborhoods, each of which is 114 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:18.879 its own sort of environment within the broader scope of 115 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:22.759 the city, all with different needs once and different architectural structures. 116 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.399 We're going to talk about that concept as well as 117 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.519 what's the next phase in this with John Zinzer again, 118 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.839 Save Hyde Park Square dot org seven thirty five. Right now, 119 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.720 if you've karousy toox stations, stick around, John, to be 120 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.759 right back. After I mentioned Zimmer heating and air conditioning, 121 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:37.879 they're outstanding of what they do, been around for a 122 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.560 long time, third generation Chris Simmer at the helm right now, 123 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.120 and they'll take great care of you for all your 124 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:47.040 HVAC needs. And sorry, it sucks to be anybody whose 125 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.240 system goes out, and I understand that, been down that 126 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:51.079 road in the past. But you can get a cool 127 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.759 carrier comfort system if yours is belly up and save 128 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:57.120 up the fifteen hundred and fifty dollars working with the 129 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:01.360 folks at Zimmer Heating and air That's they're great at 130 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.160 what they do and they represent the company of the 131 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.839 de vended air Conditioning that's carriers, So an ideal opportunity 132 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:08.720 to get a great system to replace the one that 133 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:11.079 went belly up and save some significant money of fifteen 134 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.560 hundred and fifty dollars. To learn more, check them out 135 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.240 online because they offer all kinds of HVAC services and 136 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:19.000 they're excellent customer service. It's go Zimmer dot com upper 137 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:20.759 right hand corner. Click on the little link there. You 138 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:23.600 can schedule your appointment while you're there go Zimmer dot 139 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.279 com or do it the way I prefer. Call them 140 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.519 up to schedule the appointment five one three, five two 141 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.920 one ninety eight ninety three five one three five two 142 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:35.120 one ninety eight ninety three fifty five KRC the Ford 143 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.360 Oval of Honors. Channel nine first warning weather forecast I 144 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:42.000 was saying scattered showers and storms may return. It should 145 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.959 happen around noontime. They mentioned hail being a possibility, as 146 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:46.800 well as some areas maybe getting an inch of rain. 147 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.399 Cloudy otherwise, I have seventy forty five overnight with some 148 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:55.040 clouds decreasing, sunny skies tomorrow with high sixty seven, but 149 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:56.959 a few clouds every night down to forty four, and 150 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.439 the weekend's going to be dry Saturday, partly cloudy end 151 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.199 seventy one fifty nine. Right now, traffic time. 152 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:06.439 From the you see up Tramfic center when it comes 153 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:08.639 to stroke to every second comps. That's why you see 154 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.160 Health is the clear choice for wrapping by saving treatment. 155 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:14.120 Learn more. You see health dot com really beginning to 156 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:17.120 slow down now south bend seventy one between Field, Turtle 157 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:21.639 and Feifer southbound seventy five break lights just below Tilersville 158 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:25.160 towards Union Center, then through Wachmann and bound seventy fours, 159 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.759 an extra five minutes coming down the hill from North Bend. 160 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.519 John Ingramont fifty five krs deep talk station. 161 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:35.399 To shy seven forty fifty five krcy talk station Brian 162 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.600 Thomas talking with John Zinzer, concerned citizen behind at least 163 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:42.879 one of them behind Save Hyde Park Square, which you 164 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.240 can find on line at Save Hyde Parksquare dot org. 165 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:50.120 They're circulated. Petition for a referendum has to be filed 166 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.639 to nullify City Council's April twenty third decision to approve 167 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.279 this plan development zone change for Hyde Park Square in 168 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:00.440 spite of the fact the high Park residents didn't want it. Oh, John, 169 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.879 the website is quite revealing. I don't know that I 170 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:05.679 had seen. I'm certain I hadn't seen what it is 171 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.440 going to look like after this development is put in. 172 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:10.240 It is really something, isn't it. 173 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:11.240 Oh my god? 174 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.559 It's like dropping a container ship into a historical neighborhood 175 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:16.159 right way. 176 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.840 That's crazy, great way to put it. So, you know, 177 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:21.720 in case you were thinking, oh, what's the big deal, 178 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:24.639 you should see how huge this is. It's just inside 179 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.120 and I got Newsray. I mean, that's a piece of 180 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:29.759 paper and that's a drawing. You know, when you stand 181 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:32.679 in front of a building, of any mass of any size. 182 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:35.000 You go, my gosh, that's a building. It's huge. 183 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.759 It's big, it's not a piece of paper. If they 184 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.720 build that thing, the feeling in the square will be 185 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:46.799 lost forever. And it just that's what the citizens on 186 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.600 one level are most concerned about. This is a neighborhood. 187 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.039 Cincinnati has made up of fifty two neighborhoods. You were 188 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.480 saying this before you headed out to the break. Every 189 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:02.200 neighborhood has its characteristics and its special and that deserves 190 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:05.519 That's one of the things that makes Cincinnati if I 191 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:09.600 make Cincinnati, and that's why the citizens here are taking 192 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:12.240 action right now. This is not the way we should 193 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:14.759 go about development. Let's say one more thing about Hyde 194 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:16.120 Park and then when I kick it back to the 195 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:21.080 city for a moment. We are not opposed to change, 196 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:25.639 to growth, to advancement. We are opposed to this project. 197 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:28.639 I heard you talk in the earlier segment you returned 198 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.559 about connected communities. I know you have an issue around 199 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:34.440 being told what to do. Again, I'm no expert on 200 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:39.159 connected communities. This neighborhood, and no neighborhood wants to have 201 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:42.639 something dropped on it that it doesn't have a say, 202 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:44.960 and what's it going to look like, what's it going 203 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:46.919 to do to the traffic, What's it going to do 204 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:51.080 to our day to day rhythm. That's something every neighborhood 205 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:55.200 deserves to have a voice and a comment on, rather 206 00:10:55.279 --> 00:11:00.240 than having a developer alongside some city council people who 207 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:04.399 are worked together over and over again, the ease with 208 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.519 which development can happen in Cincinnati. There's a miss out 209 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:10.440 there that we're a hard place to build something. We're 210 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.759 actually of the forty seven communities that were rated, we 211 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.799 were the forty fourth, meaning we were the third easiest 212 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.320 place to build something. What needs to change now? We 213 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:23.080 need to get this on the referendum. We need volunteers. 214 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:26.039 I would love people listening to us right now. Went 215 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:30.519 to park safehyd parksquare dot org and signed up to 216 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.600 become someone who would move a petition around, get some 217 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:36.759 signatures different events. Really need to talk with people in 218 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.240 the different parts of the city. As I said earlier, 219 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.840 we have multiple neighborhood councilors who are supporting us, other 220 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.679 civic organizations who are supporting us. But we just need 221 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:49.080 a lot of people to help us put this to 222 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.879 a referendum. Get a vote in November, and I believe 223 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.039 that vote could begin the process of reversing the tide. 224 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:00.639 There's been this long, steady tide of city council not 225 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:04.960 thinking that the neighborhood council's community councils got example after 226 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:08.279 example of how they are trying to depower or actually 227 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:11.960 do away with that. And this is a place where 228 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.639 the people have the chance to stand up and say, 229 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:18.200 now we get to say in this what we say 230 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.519 also matters. You may be smart, but you're not the 231 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:25.200 only smart person. We know some things too about where 232 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.919 we live and how we'd like to live. And we're 233 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:30.879 going to put this on the ballot to get that started. 234 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:32.840 Yeah, and I suppose you'll get a lot of people 235 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.000 in Bondhill wanting to sign on to something like this 236 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:35.919 as well, because. 237 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:39.480 I did the actual presentation to the Bondhill group to 238 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.440 say will you join us? And I was overwhelmed with 239 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:48.480 how they feel what happened to them. Perfect example, even Oakley, 240 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:53.559 who's a relatively friendly to the developer community, just had 241 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:58.840 a really nice housing project scrapped for car condos. I'm 242 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:02.200 not opposed to having nice places to stay, but if 243 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.320 city Council is all about housing. How dare you make 244 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.919 an adjustment from something that was going to be reasonably 245 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.519 priced housing to something to park my Ferrari. 246 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:14.799 In that's a good point, and it seems like that's 247 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.960 kind of I'm a misunderstanding. It seems inconsistent with their 248 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.639 desire to get rid of cars in the city of Cincinnati, 249 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.399 you know, turning it into a fifteen minute walking or 250 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:27.600 public transportation community, which is the green agenda folks idea 251 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:28.039 about it. 252 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.240 So, and I want to be careful that one of 253 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:34.840 the advantages of Hyde Park is its walk ability. Yeah, 254 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.480 and that's something we'd like to preserve. That's a feel 255 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:40.399 that we want. Other communities may want to be different 256 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.080 in how that feels, but they need to have their 257 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.679 voice in order to achieve that. And that's why we're 258 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:49.679 asking people to help us to move the petition around. 259 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:53.080 Please go to Save Hyde Park square dot org, sign 260 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:56.200 up to volunteer, find us. We're got lots of events. 261 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:59.399 Then we had the primary on Tuesday. We were at 262 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.120 lots of the polling places, a lot of people signed up. 263 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.080 Thank you for everybody who has signed. If you did 264 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:08.320 sign the change dot org petition, that's not the same 265 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.600 thing over five thousand people signed that for us. It 266 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:14.320 was a very helpful tool. It was another thing that 267 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:18.519 city council just chose to ignore. But we need different 268 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:21.320 signatures to get this on the refer to get this 269 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:21.720 on the. 270 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:25.480 Ballot, Save Hyde parksquare dot org. And this is something 271 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:27.639 that's going to resonate with all the communities, I think 272 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:29.559 more than just the ones that have been insulted by 273 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.799 the decision making of Cincinni City Council, like you and 274 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.720 Bonn Hill, but everybody who felt me. I mean I 275 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:38.639 talked about going back to connected communities real quick. That 276 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.759 was foisted on all of the neighborhoods as well without 277 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:43.480 any of their input, in spite of the fact that 278 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.320 a lot of them chimed in and said, wait, wait, 279 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:47.879 where did this come from? And we don't want that, 280 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:50.559 and you didn't consult us before you foisted it upon us. 281 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.039 So this is going to resonate among I would think 282 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.879 the vast majority of Cincinnati residents. So if you are 283 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.840 a resident of the city of Cincinnati, that's the signature 284 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.000 that you need to put down on paper and go 285 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:03.279 to save High ParkScore dot com to do that, or 286 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:04.000 dot Orger to do. 287 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:09.440 That hopefully agree, thank you. I can go the connected 288 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:11.840 community to piece absolutely, but you don't have to go 289 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:15.519 anywhere near that far back to find a place where 290 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:20.559 neighborhoods are not being heard, not even being responded to 291 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.879 by the city. On ours just own, fourteen different neighborhoods 292 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:29.080 sent an official letter to the city saying we took 293 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:32.440 a vote and we agree, we're standing with hyde per square. 294 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:36.720 Not one of them received a letter back saying thank 295 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:40.240 you for your letter, nothing more, not even acknowledgment. And 296 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:43.039 I can go down a list of different neighborhoods, different 297 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.759 instances where they are writing to the city and thing 298 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:49.000 we need help with this. This has happened to us, 299 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:54.120 things ranging from the recent flooding, some police issues, some 300 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:59.000 staffing issues, things that happened to an adverse outcome because 301 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:02.519 of development product at all of these things, where the 302 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:07.320 neighborhood councils have written to the city, crickets coming back nothing. 303 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:10.759 And that's what has to change, and that's why we 304 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:13.000 need all the help we can get with this referendum. 305 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.840 It sounds like we need a change of council members 306 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.480 and perhaps the mayor. My idea, John, you don't have 307 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.080 to buy into that or not. I don't care what 308 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.320 your political affiliation is, but no one seems to be 309 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.480 being served by the elected officials who are supposed to 310 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.720 serve the will of the people. And I love the idea. 311 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.120 This is a grassroots, community based effort. I was thinking 312 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.679 along the lines that maybe you guys might propose litigation, 313 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:37.480 but that has to be fund unless there's a lawyer 314 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:39.360 out there will be doing on a pro bono basis. 315 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.960 But you know, you get everybody an opportunity to help out. 316 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:44.200 Chime in, put a lawn sign in their yard. And 317 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:46.120 another element of this I wasn't even aware of, which 318 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:48.879 is posted on your website Save Hyde Park Square dot org, 319 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:53.000 is that it forces out over ten independent small businesses 320 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:53.840 out of the square. 321 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:59.759 I mean the Business Association of Hedberg Square voted against it. 322 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:02.919 They wrote a letter say we don't want to. If 323 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.200 they thought it was good for business, they would be 324 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:06.920 at the front of the brace saying let's do this. 325 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.319 They don't. And I can tell you you can walk 326 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.559 around Hyde Park Square right now and it feels a 327 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:16.559 little depressed because there are all these empty storefronts. That's 328 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:21.119 primarily not due to business conditions. Or anything. That's due 329 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:27.519 to the developer carefully phasing people out, primarily in legal means. 330 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:31.400 Primarily there is at least one lawsuit running about that 331 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:35.559 that I know of. But that is why Hyde Park 332 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:38.799 Square right now feels a little dingy, a little empty, 333 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:43.440 and that's really unfortunate. You can thank the developer for 334 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:47.759 those empty storefronts because they're now having to wait. They're 335 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.359 now having to wonder can we move ahead with this. 336 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:53.000 That's one of the reasons that we need to keep 337 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:56.000 the momentum up and get to the referendum. You mentioned 338 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.680 a lawsuit. That's always an option, but we do want 339 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.920 to be the grassroots group who does this the right way. 340 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.559 And city Council I think about one of the few 341 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:09.519 things they said that was positive was there has to 342 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:14.599 be more communication between the development and developer and the community, 343 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:17.920 and that just didn't happen. It was as quiet from 344 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:21.200 the developer as it has been from city council. They 345 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.160 listened to us a lot. I don't think they heard us, 346 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:27.359 and I know that's a subtle distinction, but it's an 347 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:31.319 important one. Right now, we as a citizens group would 348 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:34.200 like to be heard as we were not heard. We're 349 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.960 going to put it on the ballot. We're going to 350 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:38.359 put in a referendum, but only with help from people 351 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:41.319 who listen to your show and others who see citizen 352 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.160 voice matters. I want to be heard. I want my 353 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.799 neighborhood council to be heard, and the neighborhoods that's signed 354 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:50.400 on for this stretch all the way east to west. 355 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.920 You've got Mount Washington out east all the way to 356 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.200 Sailor Park in the west. I would love to have 357 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:58.279 other of the neighborhood councils also to join on with us. 358 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.759 More letters from that because this right now has become 359 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:05.640 for me. Yes, I do not want that development. I 360 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:09.480 also want city council to have to listen, to pay 361 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:13.799 attention to community councils, to neighborhood councils, and again we 362 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:17.119 have example after example of them saying we're not going 363 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.079 to listen anymore. 364 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.720 I love the message, John. It transcends just this issue 365 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.359 for me personally, and I appreciate what you're doing. You 366 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:26.519 can sign up to be a circulator or a captain. 367 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.279 You can help out circulate a position, show up at 368 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:32.839 farmers' markets and citywide events, and have these petitions ready 369 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:35.119 for folks to sign It's easy to do, John, and 370 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:38.799 the team has made it so easy. Save Hyde Park 371 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.759 Square dot org. I wish you all the luck and 372 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:44.279 the best in the world. John, on your efforts fifteen 373 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:44.799 thousand nine. 374 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:46.200 I really appreciate this time. 375 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:48.599 Pleasure man. If you got an update or something down 376 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:50.279 the road, you want to announce the day that you 377 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:53.079 get the sufficient signatures. You got to welcome opportunity here 378 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.000 in the fifty five Cars Morning Show. Good job John, 379 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:57.880 keep it up seven to fifty one, fifty five care 380 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:00.720 se the talk station. Love that effort. 381 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:01.720 Love it. 382 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.480 Affordable imaging. Imaging can be affordable if you go to 383 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:07.400 affordable imaging services rather than the hospital imaging department. Because 384 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.440 it's crazy expensive there, crazy expensive. I don't know why, 385 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:13.799 well I do know why. It's a profit center. They 386 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:16.039 got tons of overheaded hospital. They got to pay for 387 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:17.880 it some way, so that's why they charge you five 388 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:20.559 thousand dollars for a CT scan when you can go 389 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:23.319 to affordable imaging services like I'm going to do again 390 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:26.519 in June keeping an eye on my cancer. Got to 391 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.839 get CT scans with a contrast six hundred bucks four 392 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:31.640 hundred and fifty bucks. If you don't need a contrast. 393 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:33.640 That's for a CT scan that might set you back 394 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.680 five grand at a hospital echo cardiogram. They'll get your 395 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.359 right in at affordable imaging services, unlike the hospital, which 396 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:41.440 may have a wait time. It's your heart, I know 397 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:44.839 you want to know, so without an enhancement five hundred bucks. 398 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.559 With an enhancement eight hundred, not the three grand four 399 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:50.480 grand they might charge you at the hospital. Every image, 400 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:54.039 whether it's enough, ultrasound, CT scan, MRI, echo cardiogram, comes 401 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:58.839