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<v Speaker 2>Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

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<v Speaker 2>much for joining us for another live episode of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it. Before we bring on tonight's guest,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give you two updates about past guests.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, last week's guest Tiffany. Unfortunately, she's had some

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<v Speaker 2>things happen since she was last week that just further

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<v Speaker 2>reinforced the point that she made the right decision to

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<v Speaker 2>move out. That's a good thing in a way, but

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<v Speaker 2>in another way, that was her dream property. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just so unfortunate that all this had to happen. These

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<v Speaker 2>things that have happened, or just reminders about how bad

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<v Speaker 2>of a situation that is. And like I told her

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<v Speaker 2>before several times, I'm so glad she's leaving that behind.

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<v Speaker 2>On another note, the other update I wanted to give

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<v Speaker 2>you is Kim, the eyewitness who came back on to

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<v Speaker 2>update us on her imber siting. Kim contacted me to

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<v Speaker 2>let me know that unfortunately the dog Men found her.

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<v Speaker 2>They found out where she lives, and they've been watching her.

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<v Speaker 2>That's bad in a way, but it might be good

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<v Speaker 2>news in a way. What I'm getting at is we

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<v Speaker 2>had a good conversation last weekend about this, and after

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<v Speaker 2>talking with her about what's been going on, she's been

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a pair of eyes in the woods, and she

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<v Speaker 2>can make out a silhouette that looks like is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a fairly decent sized male dog man that's been watching her. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's another set of eyes where she hasn't been able

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<v Speaker 2>to see what those eyes belong to very well. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>after we had been speaking for some time, I told her,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, you know, it sure sounds to me

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<v Speaker 2>like you do know who owns those eyes that are

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<v Speaker 2>more distant. I told her, I'm pretty sure that's Ember.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Imber and her escort basically that have found her

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<v Speaker 2>in they're watching her house. She got excited when I

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<v Speaker 2>posed that idea. We don't know that's the case, but

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<v Speaker 2>she got kind of excited when I brought that possibility up.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's what's going on, Maybe it's not. We really

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but like I told her, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>time will tell. I don't think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>all that long before whoever those dogmen are, they really

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<v Speaker 2>make their presence known and she'll be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>a good look consequently. Well enough on that, let's bring

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<v Speaker 2>on tonight's guest. Tonight's guest is Nicole. Nicole, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Vick, thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks so much for coming. We appreciate your time. Nicole.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a unique encounter to share with this tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Most encounters, the eyewitnesses felt like they're about to be attacked,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes even killed. But your encounter was a different kind

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<v Speaker 2>of encounter. We're going to get into the meat and

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<v Speaker 2>potatoes of that later on, but your encounter is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a fresh breath of air for me because lately

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<v Speaker 2>it's been bad encounter after bad encounter. I was contacted,

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<v Speaker 2>what two three days ago from a guy who claims

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<v Speaker 2>that a sasquatch that he's interacted with for years saved

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<v Speaker 2>his life from a dog mean that was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>kill him. So that's just one more bad encounter that

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<v Speaker 2>I've been made aware of and I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>help people with. So, like I said, talk with you

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<v Speaker 2>about your encounter and hear what actually happened. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm saying. It's kind of like a fresh breath

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<v Speaker 2>of air. But like I said, we'll get into that

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<v Speaker 2>in a bit. Before we do, we need to cover

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<v Speaker 2>some other things, such as, please give us a brief

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<v Speaker 2>bio in yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm Nicole. I was born and raised in a

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<v Speaker 3>small town in Georgia, where I lived in a very

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<v Speaker 3>haunted house with my grandparents. I lived there until I

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<v Speaker 3>was about eighteen or nineteen, where I moved into my

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<v Speaker 3>mom's house in an even smaller town in Georgia, which

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<v Speaker 3>is where I actually had my dog man encounter. And

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<v Speaker 3>then shortly after that, I moved here to Florida for

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<v Speaker 3>a job, where I've now been ever since. And I

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<v Speaker 3>live with my husband and our two rescue dogs and

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<v Speaker 3>our rescue cat. And that's about it. I work from home,

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<v Speaker 3>and I spend most of my time hanging out with

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<v Speaker 3>donate my time to the local shelters and whatnot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's where most of my time and where my heart

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<v Speaker 3>lies is with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's great. I think that's great that you rescue animals.

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<v Speaker 2>What you do? What kind of dogs do you have?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a Rhodesian ridge back and I have a

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<v Speaker 3>pit mix. The ridge back is about five years old.

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<v Speaker 3>We rescued him at the start of the lockdown for COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>Our local shelter was trying to clear out as many

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<v Speaker 3>animals as they could as everything was shutting down around here.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've worked with them before in the past, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were like, hey, do y'all want to come get

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<v Speaker 3>a dog to foster or take one on? And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm not gonna just foster. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>take one, so let me come take a look. And

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<v Speaker 3>I got my little spoiled baby. And then our pit mix.

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<v Speaker 3>He's about thirteen years old. Now he's an old man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's our gentle giant.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet those two keep you busy, don't they.

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<v Speaker 3>They sure do, especially the ridgeback.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet I'll bet they do. But that's great though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>glad you do that sort of thing. Nicole, you said

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<v Speaker 2>that you were raised in a hunted house. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a chance that just might have prepared you,

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<v Speaker 2>at least a little for the encounter that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell us about.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight, Yeah, I would say so, it definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>from a I mean, I had encounters with spirits from

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a baby, like things I don't even remember,

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<v Speaker 3>but my mom and grandma would tell me about. But

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<v Speaker 3>I had plenty, you know, throughout all the way up

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<v Speaker 3>through my teenage years there and then as an adult,

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<v Speaker 3>I still have had things happen. So I was very

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<v Speaker 3>open minded about you know, other things I had. As

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<v Speaker 3>I told you, I had never heard of the term

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<v Speaker 3>dog man until a couple of months ago and then

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<v Speaker 3>was turned towards your show. So when I saw what

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<v Speaker 3>I saw, the only thing I had to go off

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<v Speaker 3>of was you know, movie where wolves, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know such a thing existed, but I definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't opposed to there being such a thing because I'd

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<v Speaker 3>always believed in in the sasquatch and I never you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen one of those either, But I just

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<v Speaker 3>who am I to say what is or isn't out there?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, that's true, well as you've seen with

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<v Speaker 2>your own two eyes. I mean, if dog men could

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<v Speaker 2>be out there, who knows what could be out there?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a wild world definitely, and I'm wondering, how

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<v Speaker 2>did you find out what it was that you had

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<v Speaker 2>that encounter with, or are those two encounters with?

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<v Speaker 3>I should say, well, I didn't really have anybody to

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<v Speaker 3>truly talk about it, and anytime I've brought it up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, people were like, that doesn't exist. And whenever

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<v Speaker 3>I would like try to look it up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I would look up wear wolves or whatnot, and I

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<v Speaker 3>never came across the term dog man until about two

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<v Speaker 3>or three months ago. I saw a TikTok video of

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<v Speaker 3>an encounter somebody had with a dog man in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 3>and all the comments were telling her to come to

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<v Speaker 3>you and that they should check out your show, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I was like, what's a dog man? So I

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<v Speaker 3>looked up your show, started listening to it, doing research,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, okay, so that's what I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>So here we are, you know, fourteen years later, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm finally just understanding what I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Well better late than ever. I'm so glad you found

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<v Speaker 2>out what these guys are and what they're called. From

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<v Speaker 2>what I understand, you told your husband about the two

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<v Speaker 2>encounters we're going to talk about tonight. How did he respond? Though?

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<v Speaker 3>You cut out for a se I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's all right. From what I understand, you told

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<v Speaker 2>your husband about the two encounters that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about tonight. How did you respond when you told him?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, he does not believe in me. He does

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<v Speaker 3>not believe in anything paranormal. And like I said, I've

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I grew up in a haunted house, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've had stuff happen here because I inherited things from

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<v Speaker 3>my grandparents' house that I was raised in, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely a things attached to some of those objects. So

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<v Speaker 3>we have things here happen in our house. I know

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<v Speaker 3>for a fact he's witnessed these things, but he's always

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<v Speaker 3>trying to find a way to explain these things away.

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<v Speaker 3>And as everybody will hear later in my story, I

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<v Speaker 3>was in a lot of pain during the time of

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<v Speaker 3>my encounter, and so he just simply thinks that I

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<v Speaker 3>was just like hallucinating or just delusional and delirious from

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<v Speaker 3>the amount of pain I was in. But I saw

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<v Speaker 3>what I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course you did, and shame on him for

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that somehow you could do that. He knows you're

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<v Speaker 2>of sound mind, he knows you're not a liar. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you tell him that that's what you saw, he

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<v Speaker 2>should take that. So the fact he doesn't that makes

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<v Speaker 2>me not a big fan of his. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you right now. That's right, all right, Nicole,

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell us about your encounters. Now, give us ever

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<v Speaker 2>last detail that comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So, like I said, I grew up in one

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<v Speaker 3>small town most of my life, and then I briefly

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<v Speaker 3>moved in with my mother because I was primarily raised

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<v Speaker 3>by my grandparents, and after my grandmother passed away, I

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<v Speaker 3>moved in briefly with my mother, who had recently moved

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<v Speaker 3>to an even smaller town. And when I say a

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<v Speaker 3>small I mean like she was in a brand new

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<v Speaker 3>build neighborhood, like one of the first new neighborhoods in

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<v Speaker 3>this area. Everything else around her were old farmhouses that

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<v Speaker 3>had been there for years and years and years, and

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<v Speaker 3>those houses, you know, owned on the land around them,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just farmland and woods surrounding this little

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<v Speaker 3>were going to town, you were basically going down to

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<v Speaker 3>there was like a bank, an old school, pharmacy, city hall,

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<v Speaker 3>the fire station, and like a tiny restaurant and a

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<v Speaker 3>barber shop, and that was it. And you might cross

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<v Speaker 3>the tracks and there was like an old school and

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<v Speaker 3>that was all there was. So at the time, they

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<v Speaker 3>were just starting to like build up around the area

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<v Speaker 3>that my mom had moved into, and they had cleared

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<v Speaker 3>out some of the woods to the left of her

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<v Speaker 3>neighborhood and there was nothing built yet. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>So I had a black lab at the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>I like to take her and I would go down

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<v Speaker 3>where they were about to start building the neighborhood to

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<v Speaker 3>the left, and we would walk all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>the back of that and then cut over this like

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<v Speaker 3>where we're not too far from my mom's neighborhood, but

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<v Speaker 3>where we're two three miles away at this point, and

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<v Speaker 3>trying to walk a couple of miles like that's unheard of.

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<v Speaker 3>So the only thing I could do was there's a place,

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<v Speaker 3>of connected to a farm over towards the front of

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<v Speaker 3>and I can call my mom and have her, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>come over to that road and pick us up. So

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<v Speaker 3>bridge and I call my mom. And this was around

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<v Speaker 3>the holidays, and she was, you know, like baking or

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<v Speaker 3>she said, well, I'm in the middle of this, but

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<v Speaker 3>get you. And I was like, all right. So me

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<v Speaker 3>and my dog were on this bridge and we're all

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<v Speaker 3>the way on the far left side of the bridge,

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<v Speaker 3>which is closest to that like country Stone Road, and

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<v Speaker 3>pond to the right, and then to the left is

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<v Speaker 3>some woods. And at this point, just that little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of walking has got my pain just to absolute next level,

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<v Speaker 3>like I can't breathe. I'm starting to, you know, starting

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I'm gonna pass out, where your body goes

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<v Speaker 3>super hot and cold all at the same time. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I just sit down on the on the bridge,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just sitting down there next to my dog,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I'll just you know, sit here, try

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<v Speaker 3>to breathe and let this pass and and wait for

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<v Speaker 3>my mom to get there. And as I'm sitting there,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and I had only just sat down, like

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<v Speaker 3>this all happened so fast, So this thing had to

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<v Speaker 3>have been watching me, because as like no sooner had

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<v Speaker 3>I sat down, I see and hear movement coming from

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<v Speaker 3>that woodline on the other side of the bridge. Now

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<v Speaker 3>over here, it wasn't unusual for me to see deer

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<v Speaker 3>or wild turkeys or something like that coming out and

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<v Speaker 3>coming over there to that pond. So I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>But no, this, this big, gray, hunched over were wolf

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<v Speaker 4>like creature steps out from those woods and walks up

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<v Speaker 4>to the end of the bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>This thing was dark gray with almost like a blue

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<v Speaker 3>cast to its fur, and it was kind of it

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of like a cross between like one of

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<v Speaker 3>the Underworld were wolves and remas Slooping from Harry Potter.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very hunched over and muscular, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like huge, like it wasn't like the van helsing were

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<v Speaker 3>wolf like I've heard some people describe. This thing was

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<v Speaker 3>about i'd say seven feet tall. It might have been taller,

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<v Speaker 3>but it stayed very hunched over, like it was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to appear smaller and less menacing. And I'm about six

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<v Speaker 3>feet tall myself. So this thing it approaches the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the bridge and it it just it squats down

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<v Speaker 3>on all fours because it's walked out of that clearing

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<v Speaker 3>on two legs and now it's squatting down at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the bridge. And it had like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the backwards like looking legs, like like one of my

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<v Speaker 3>dogs has. But when it sat down the front like

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<v Speaker 3>it had basically hands with claws, So it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>when my dogs, you know, just sitting there. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like a man with dog feet and a dog head,

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<v Speaker 3>just squatting there in front of me. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about six feet tall, so this thing wasn't much

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<v Speaker 3>taller than me once it was squatting down like that,

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<v Speaker 3>so at the most it was probably seven feet tall

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<v Speaker 3>or so. Well, the thing's looking at me. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>showing me its teeth. It never once like truly tried

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<v Speaker 3>to look menacing at me. But it was still scary

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm sitting here thinking, oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a werewolf, you know, and I'm already in pain and

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way I can, you know, try to run

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<v Speaker 3>from this thing. I'm as vulnerable as you possibly could

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<v Speaker 3>be right now, and I'm just my blood has gone

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<v Speaker 3>from running cold to just being completely solid ice in

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<v Speaker 3>my veins. I don't know what to do. I'm freaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying. I'm not taking my eyes off of the creature,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm trying to avoid eye contact with it because

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<v Speaker 3>i don't want it to feel threatened or like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>challenging it or anything. But I also, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to look like I'm challenging it or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get up and run and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>make it think that it's a game, you know, come

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<v Speaker 3>and get me. So I'm just still sitting there, just

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<v Speaker 3>looking at it. And my dog, My dog, she was

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<v Speaker 3>not afraid of anything to her. Every person, every animal

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<v Speaker 3>was just a new playmate for her. She was never afraid,

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<v Speaker 3>and she certainly was not an attack dog. But this

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<v Speaker 3>thing scared her to death and she started cowering behind

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<v Speaker 3>my back, and that just added to my fear because

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen this dog get scared, and I never

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<v Speaker 3>saw her get scared again. And so I'm like, Okay, great.

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<v Speaker 3>If she is scared, then I know we're in a pickle.

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<v Speaker 3>This is awful, and so I'm just freaking out. And

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<v Speaker 3>now this thing is scooting kind of scoot closer to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very slow, it's still in all fours, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of creeping closer to me and tilting its head.

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<v Speaker 3>I can still see it now in my mind. It's terrifying,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just kind of tilting its head like a

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<v Speaker 3>curious dog, like trying to figure me out. And as

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<v Speaker 3>it's creeping closer to me, my dog starts freaking out

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<v Speaker 3>even more, and it's just practically trying to crawl into

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<v Speaker 3>my back right now, and it's just whimpering and whining,

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<v Speaker 3>and that draws the dog man's attention even more, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's now more curious about what my dog's doing, and

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<v Speaker 3>it stands up on two legs again and starts moving

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<v Speaker 3>across the bridge towards me. And all I could think

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<v Speaker 3>of was that scene in the Silver Bullet when the

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<v Speaker 3>kid's out on the bridge on fourth of July, and

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<v Speaker 3>that where Wolf Priest is coming at. But so the

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<v Speaker 3>dog Man's walking towards me, and at this point I

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<v Speaker 3>just go into full panic. I'm crying, I'm yelling, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going, please don't hurt me. I'm hurt. I have

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<v Speaker 3>somebody coming to get me. I don't mean to be

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<v Speaker 3>intruding on your territory. I'll I'll be gone in just

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<v Speaker 3>a moment. Please don't hurt me. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you do have to hurt one of us, please

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<v Speaker 3>take me, let my baby go. And I'm just begging

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<v Speaker 3>this thing for my life because I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>it's about to do. It's just coming closer and closer

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and of course, you know, I'm sitting down

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground, so this huge thing is over me

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just as menacing as you could think. And

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<v Speaker 3>finally it kind of stops. It doesn't make it all

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<v Speaker 3>the way up over to me. It's just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like halfway across the bridge, and I all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden just have this calmness wash over me and this

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<v Speaker 3>feeling of everything's gonna be okay. The panic immediately leaves

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<v Speaker 3>my body, and it's like I didn't hear like a

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<v Speaker 3>foreign voice. It was just like this thing took over

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<v Speaker 3>my inner monologue and started telling me, hush, hush, you're okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody means you any harm. You're gonna be all right.

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<v Speaker 3>And it kind of backed away from me, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was it was like something was asking me, like, are

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<v Speaker 3>you hurt? Are you in trouble? Do you need help?

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I'm looking for is to see if you

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<v Speaker 3>need help. And so the thing has slowly backed away

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<v Speaker 3>from me at this point, and I'm I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>look at it and I'm I fay out loud. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're concerned about me. And I'm just shocked because to

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<v Speaker 3>think that, you know, here's this big werewolf thing and

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<v Speaker 3>it's trying to make me feel better. And I started explaining,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm I'm not injured, I'm sick, I have

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<v Speaker 3>something wrong with me, but I'm okay, and there's somebody

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<v Speaker 3>coming to get me, and I will be out of

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<v Speaker 3>your territory in just a moment. And it just backed

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<v Speaker 3>away from me, and it went back into the woods,

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<v Speaker 3>not all the way into the woods, but just far

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<v Speaker 3>enough into the treeline to where if somebody was to

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<v Speaker 3>walk up on us, they wouldn't spot it without knowing

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<v Speaker 3>where it was. And it just watched me, and I

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<v Speaker 3>kept watching it. I didn't want to turn my back

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<v Speaker 3>on it. But I slowly, and I mean as slowly

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<v Speaker 3>as I could, stood up. I grabbed my dog by

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<v Speaker 3>the leash, and I backed down my side of the

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<v Speaker 3>bridge and got closer to the road. And I never

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<v Speaker 3>took my eyes off of this dog man, and it

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<v Speaker 3>never took its eyes off of me either. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just standing there trembling, like because even though this thing

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be letting me go and it's acting like it's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, concerned, I don't know if it's just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to catch me, you know, in my guard down or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think this thing is my new best friend

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<v Speaker 3>out here in the woods. And I'm just watching it

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<v Speaker 3>while it watches me, and I'm just praying, like a mom,

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<v Speaker 3>please get here as fast as you can. And in

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<v Speaker 3>a few minutes the car pulls up. This thing is

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<v Speaker 3>still watching me. I grab my dog, I throw it

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<v Speaker 3>into the back of the car, and then I hopped

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<v Speaker 3>in the car with my mom and while I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>watching the woods, and it finally turns and leaves. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>my mom and I we don't really have that good

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<v Speaker 3>of a relationship. And as soon as I get in

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<v Speaker 3>the car, she's just kind of scolding me and saying, like,

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<v Speaker 3>knew you could have had a pain flare up like this?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, Mom, I didn't know. It just caught

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<v Speaker 3>me off guard, which it really did. And I'm crying

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<v Speaker 3>and sobbing, but it's, you know, mostly because I just

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<v Speaker 3>have this encounter, but she doesn't know that. She just

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<v Speaker 3>thinks I'm in pain, which I still am, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in terrible pain. But I'm now freaking out about this

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<v Speaker 3>thing I just saw. But I'm not going to tell

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<v Speaker 3>her because even though she is sensitive to paranormal things

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<v Speaker 3>like I am, she has never really believed in anything

417
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 3>like this, and so I'm not about to try and

418
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.920
<v Speaker 3>explain what I saw to her. I had a cousin

419
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 3>that lived in the mountains and had different encounters with things,

420
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:33.319
<v Speaker 3>and most of my family mocked him and made jokes

421
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 3>about him, and my mom was one of those people.

422
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.359
<v Speaker 3>So I didn't open up to her. I just sat there,

423
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, in silence, just trying to process what I saw.

424
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:50.240
<v Speaker 3>And well, later that night, I'm now back home and

425
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm up in my bed and I'm just trying to

426
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 3>drown out my thoughts. With a TV. And my dog's

427
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.599
<v Speaker 3>up there and she's now seems like she's gotten over experience.

428
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:04.519
<v Speaker 3>She's just calmed down on the bed, and I get

429
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 3>this urge all of a sudden to go look out

430
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 3>the window. I try to fight it because I'm like,

431
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Speaker 3>this is weird, you know what if that thing's out there,

432
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:17.400
<v Speaker 3>and but I get up. I'm like, well, I'm up

433
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 3>here on the second floor. This thing hopefully can't keep

434
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 3>me inside my house up here. So I walk over

435
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:30.319
<v Speaker 3>to the window and across the road from my house

436
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 3>is one of our neighbor's house that backs up into

437
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:38.319
<v Speaker 3>the woodline and just out of those woods and into

438
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.359
<v Speaker 3>the clearing right where like just enough for the moon

439
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:43.440
<v Speaker 3>and one of the street lights to kind of shine

440
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:47.279
<v Speaker 3>on it. As that dog man, and it's looking up

441
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 3>at me in my room, and I'm looking down at it,

442
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and then that feeling takes over my mind again again.

443
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 3>It's not like I'm hearing some foreign voice. It's just

444
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 3>my inner dialogue, but it's like it's being controlled by

445
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>something else. And it was like, hey, you're still all right.

446
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to make sure that you're safe and

447
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 3>you're okay, and I'm just kind of like, yeah, I'm

448
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 3>fine by leave me alone, you know, because I just

449
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:16.720
<v Speaker 3>want this thing away from me. I don't want to

450
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 3>have anything else to do with this thing. And it

451
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.960
<v Speaker 3>just kind of looks at me and then turns and

452
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:28.079
<v Speaker 3>goes back into those woods, and I never saw it again.

453
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.440
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't but about three or four months later I

454
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 3>moved away from there. It wasn't because of that. I

455
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 3>just happened to have a job already lined up here

456
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.200
<v Speaker 3>in Florida that I was waiting for the new year

457
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 3>to come for me to start. But the last couple

458
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 3>of months that I lived there, I never wandered down

459
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 3>to the pond or into the woods ever again. And

460
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:58.480
<v Speaker 3>I've only been back to my mom's house maybe three

461
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:03.599
<v Speaker 3>or four times. Again, we're not very close, so I

462
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.960
<v Speaker 3>don't really have much of a reason to go back.

463
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 3>And I do have a little brother, but if I

464
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Speaker 3>want to see him, he usually comes here, because I mean,

465
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 3>we're in Florida and have all the theme parks, so

466
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of course he'd rather come here than me go there.

467
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 3>And now that place is so grown with so many

468
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 3>businesses and restaurants and warehouses and tons of new neighborhoods,

469
00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 3>that there's really no longer that big wooded area or

470
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 3>the farmland anymore. It's all, you know, taken over by

471
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 3>your typical modern, modern world that we live in. So

472
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know where that dog man could live

473
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>over there without being bothered by humans at this point. Yeah,

474
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 3>that was the only time I saw it was that

475
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 3>day on the bridge and then later that night. And

476
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.160
<v Speaker 3>that's the only encounter I've ever had with a dog man,

477
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.599
<v Speaker 3>and I hope I I never have one ever again.

478
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's pretty much it.

479
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, that makes two of us. Yeah, I can never

480
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 2>have another encounter again. Also, you're getting pretty worked up

481
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>there talking about those experiences. Let's shift gears a little bit.

482
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.319
<v Speaker 2>We can get back into the whole dogma thing and

483
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>just a bit, but let's kind of shift gears here

484
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 2>to help calm you down. Are you ready for the

485
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 2>holidays or do you still have to do all of

486
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>your shopping?

487
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I still have to do shopping, but I'm definitely ready

488
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 3>for the holidays. Christmas is my absolute favorite time of year.

489
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I've been saying I just want to go ahead and

490
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 3>put the tree up now, but I usually do that

491
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 3>at midnight on Halloween.

492
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Really midnight on Halloween.

493
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so as soon as late the trigger treaters are gone,

494
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 3>I take down all the Halloween stuff inside, and I

495
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.440
<v Speaker 3>put up all the Christmas stuff, and then the next

496
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 3>day I down the outside stuff and then put up

497
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.200
<v Speaker 3>my Christmas stuff. My neighborhood's always like, you know, it's

498
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Christmas time when Nichole starts putting out her stuff and

499
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 3>then they all follow suit.

500
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you're really into it. Then I see you're even

501
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>crazier about Christmas than I am.

502
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 3>I love Christmas. I'm definitely a Christmas girl. Buy Christmas

503
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 3>things all year round. I wear a lot of Christmas

504
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:28.759
<v Speaker 3>clothes year round. I love it.

505
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Have you got my present yet? Though?

506
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

507
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna get you a DVD of the classic

508
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 3>wolf Man.

509
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be a good present. That'd be okay, that's funny.

510
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Are you sure you're ready to talk about these encounters,

511
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>because if you want to unwind a little longer, we

512
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 2>can definitely do that.

513
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:54.559
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm okay. I think I got more nervous just

514
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 3>knowing that there is an audience. I've always been a

515
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 3>bit a bit shy and introverted, so and being really

516
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 3>brave to come on here and talk about this, but

517
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 3>I really, I really wanted to.

518
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very brave. It's not an easy group of experiences

519
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to talk about, number one, but yeah, I mean most

520
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>people weren't comfortable to talk to audiences, so it's like

521
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 2>a double whammy. I get it. I feel so bad

522
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 2>for you, the Nicole. It sounds like you went a

523
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 2>long time after having these experiences before you could confide

524
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>in anyone. How long was it.

525
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean I tried, you know, like a couple of friends,

526
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>and they would just kind of laugh it off and

527
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 3>think I was joking. And I mean that was within

528
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, the first few months of it happening, and

529
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 3>nobody really took it seriously. Like I had said, the

530
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 3>only person that I knew of that had ever experienced

531
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he'd ever experienced a dog man

532
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 3>per se, but I knew he had encountered other things

533
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 3>was my cousin, who was half Native American and his

534
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 3>mother was Native American, and she had brought him up,

535
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, teaching him about all the things out in

536
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 3>the woods, and they lived in an area where he

537
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 3>he claimed he saw things and he would try to

538
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 3>talk about it, and my family ridiculed him, and I

539
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 3>always listened to him, but he had actually passed away

540
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>from cancer. Unfortunately by the time I had my own experience,

541
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 3>so I didn't have anybody else I could talk to.

542
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 3>And ironically, he had a pet wolf, like an actual

543
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent wolf that he had raised and rescued

544
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 3>as a pub so then he would have been like

545
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 3>the perfect person to talk to about this sort of thing.

546
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he would have been shame and your family for

547
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.920
<v Speaker 2>ridiculing him though. That's horrible. Yeah, m h yeah, that

548
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 2>really is. But from what you've told me, I guess

549
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.480
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what I should expect. I mean, it

550
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 2>sounds like it does tend to run family.

551
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it does.

552
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Were you more hung up on trying to figure out

553
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>how in the world this thing was able to use

554
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>your inner dialogue to communicate with you, or were you

555
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>more just struck from the fact that, Okay, I just

556
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 2>saw something. It looks like a dead ringer for a

557
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>wear wolve.

558
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was both. I was absolutely floored to

559
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 3>see such a thing because, I mean, you see them

560
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 3>on movies all the time, and I liked, you know,

561
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 3>horror movies growing up. I still do, And but I

562
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 3>just never expected to see, you know, something from the

563
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.639
<v Speaker 3>screen right in front of me. But whenever I tried

564
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 3>to do research, like I said, I would you know,

565
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 3>look up wear wolves and stuff, and I would look

566
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 3>up like hearing like the voices from like a cryptid

567
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 3>or something like I was, you know, looking up all

568
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 3>different things. And one thing I had learned over the

569
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 3>years long before just I just learned about, you know,

570
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 3>what a dog man was a couple of months ago,

571
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 3>but I had learned about the kind of feeling I

572
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 3>had when it was doing the mind speak because I

573
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 3>read and heard several people who had had encounters with vampires,

574
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 3>usually in Louisiana, and they had very similar experiences to

575
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 3>what I had with this dog man, with it basically

576
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 3>like just taking over my inner monologue, controlling my feelings

577
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 3>and whatnot. And so that was helpful. So I at

578
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.840
<v Speaker 3>least had that to go on for a few years,

579
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.280
<v Speaker 3>but it was very few and far between on what

580
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 3>I could find on you know, like werewolves and stuff.

581
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.000
<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't until I stumbled across that one video

582
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 3>on TikTok and saw on the comments people were saying, oh,

583
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 3>that's a dog man and you should talk to Vic

584
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 3>about dog man encounters, and I was like, wait, do

585
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I have a new lead. Let me check this out.

586
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>And then for the past couple of months I have

587
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 3>been listening and going down a rabbit hole and doing

588
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 3>more research, and I was like, Okay, I think it's

589
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 3>time I can finally call somebody and find a community

590
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>that will understand me and not ridicule me.

591
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, it goes with that saying I'm so glad you

592
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>found out about me and what I do and found

593
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 2>out about this show. You're going to get nothing but

594
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 2>support here. No one's going to make fun of you.

595
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>So of course I'm so glad you've got access to that.

596
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 2>As far as how an experience like that would affect you,

597
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.519
<v Speaker 2>of course, yeah, two encounters, but the first encounter was

598
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 2>more of an encounter than the second one because you're

599
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>removed and you're looking down from your bedroom and whatnot.

600
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 2>But can you think of any long lasting effects that

601
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>you are dealing with today, whether negative or positive, that

602
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 2>you can point to the first encounter directly at that

603
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>first encounter as being responsible for these effects that you're experiencing.

604
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 3>I sometimes, especially if I'm out like walking the dogs,

605
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 3>like in the evening, it's it's Florida, so it's hot here,

606
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 3>so it's more comfortable to go out in the evening.

607
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 3>And sometimes I'll be by the woodline and I'll hear

608
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 3>a snapper crackle coming from the trees and suddenly I'm

609
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 3>back there. And sometimes I told you about this the

610
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 3>other day. My oldest dog, Tiger, he'll there's times where

611
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 3>he'll look at me and it's just like looking at

612
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 3>that dog man's face again, just something about how he'll

613
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 3>turn his head a certain way and his eyes will

614
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 3>look a certain way and and it just like makes

615
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:45.480
<v Speaker 3>my blood run cold for a moment, and I'll then

616
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 3>have to like go pat him and be like, don't

617
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 3>look at me like that. I love you, but you're

618
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 3>scaring me right now.

619
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I told you in the first conversation, that's

620
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 2>not just you. Yeah, a lot of eyewitnesses report that

621
00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 2>they'll look at their dogs, and their dogs have a

622
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:02.800
<v Speaker 2>certain an expression, especially the ones that look like shepherds.

623
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>They'll move a certain way and it just freaks out

624
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 2>the eyewitnesses and understandably so, I mean, some dogs can

625
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 2>look pretty similar to dog men down on all fours

626
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>at times.

627
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they can.

628
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 2>You talked about being next to the woodline, were you

629
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>alone at the time. Does that mean that, even though

630
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>you've had these experiences, you're able to go near the

631
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 2>woods or into the woods by yourself. Now?

632
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I still go. I always have one

633
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.360
<v Speaker 3>of the dogs with me, usually my ridge back, because

634
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 3>our senior dog, Tiger, he's thirteen years old. He can't

635
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 3>really hang out as long as as me and our

636
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 3>younger dog can. Now he's having a harder time moving around,

637
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>but the little one has lots of energy, so he's

638
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:56.239
<v Speaker 3>my walking buddy. We've ran racist together and stuff, and

639
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Speaker 3>we wander around the woods and the swamp land over

640
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.519
<v Speaker 3>here sometimes.

641
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's great, that's really good. When you've been doing

642
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 2>those things in the woods. Has there ever been a

643
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>time where you thought, Okay, I think we've got a

644
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>dog men nearby?

645
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 3>There was I never saw anything else again, but I

646
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 3>don't think I even mentioned it to you or in

647
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.880
<v Speaker 3>the story. But the smell. There was one time where

648
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 3>I smelled the smell that I smelled on that bridge

649
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 3>that day, and I was like, whoa that? And I

650
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:34.559
<v Speaker 3>didn't know what a dog man was, but I was like,

651
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 3>that smells like a were wolf. And I I telled

652
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 3>at home immediately.

653
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can understand, why better do you use caution

654
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.639
<v Speaker 2>than to risk having another encounter that doesn't need to

655
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 2>happen normally, I can get a pretty good beat on this,

656
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.159
<v Speaker 2>But with how you've laid it out there, I'm still unsure.

657
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 2>It's obviously your husband doesn't believe you when you talk

658
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:02.519
<v Speaker 2>about having these encounters. Has that strained your relationship with

659
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 2>him in any way?

660
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Not really, because I just I don't feel the need

661
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 3>to have to bring it up that much. The only

662
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.480
<v Speaker 3>time when we ever, like really argue about anything is when,

663
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 3>like I said, there's we've definitely had paranormal things happen here.

664
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I inherited stuff from my grandparents house that was the

665
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.920
<v Speaker 3>haunted house I grew up in, and there's definitely things

666
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 3>attached to some of those items, and ever since we

667
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.599
<v Speaker 3>brought those into our house, things started happening. And I

668
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.119
<v Speaker 3>know that he's experienced these things because he's even talked

669
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 3>to me about them. But then I'm like, oh see,

670
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 3>you see like it happens, and He's like he was

671
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 3>it was just a shadow, the lighting was weird, maybe

672
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 3>like if something moves. He's like, maybe I just put it,

673
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, too close to the edge of the counter.

674
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 3>Like he it's like he's scared and he just needs

675
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 3>to put any kind of excuse in front of it

676
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 3>rather than say that it's something paranormal.

677
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, of course he does. And the funny part about that, Nicole,

678
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.880
<v Speaker 2>is that, right there is a kind of eyewitness who

679
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>always has the most trouble coming to terms with their experiences.

680
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>When you've got a person like that contacted me, I

681
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.039
<v Speaker 2>know I've got my work cut out for me, because yeah,

682
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of cases, it makes their life

683
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.079
<v Speaker 2>just fall apart. It really does.

684
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, you know, like I've never seen anything

685
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 3>else as far as a dog man, but I did

686
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 3>have that similar smell the one time. That was in

687
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.519
<v Speaker 3>the like the swamp area around our house, because our

688
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 3>house now it goes right up to the woods, like

689
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 3>our garage is right there. Like I step out of

690
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:47.599
<v Speaker 3>the garage and right into the woods and head into

691
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 3>the swamp area. So I'm always like, I hope there

692
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 3>was there wasn't a dog man out there, And if

693
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 3>there is, I hope he doesn't ever come over here

694
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 3>because my husband is going to be like, oh, that's

695
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 3>just a big animal, let me go out there and

696
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 3>challenge it. And I don't want him to go out there,

697
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.280
<v Speaker 3>and that's with something like that. And I know he

698
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:08.480
<v Speaker 3>would because he'd be like, oh, let me just prove

699
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 3>to you it's just a big animal, you know. Let

700
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.119
<v Speaker 3>me grab grab a weapon and go out there. And

701
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.519
<v Speaker 3>I just would hate for him to do that because

702
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 3>it would not end.

703
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, it sure wouldn't. Ye, it's good you know that.

704
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.280
<v Speaker 2>If your house is right there up against the woods

705
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 2>like that, can you still go out at night to

706
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.599
<v Speaker 2>take the trash out or check the mail, get into

707
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.559
<v Speaker 2>the car truck or do you try to be a

708
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.000
<v Speaker 2>shut away after dark?

709
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 3>I still go out there, but it's always very nerve wracking,

710
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 3>especially when I have to go out there and get

711
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 3>the trash can, like from behind the garage. It's just

712
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 3>very nerve wracking. There's some nights where it gets almost

713
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 3>too quiet, and I do, like I look around and

714
00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this, something ain't right. It's just too quiet

715
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 3>around here. And you know that's when they say there's

716
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 3>different things and not necessarily dog man, but something's around.

717
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, listen to your instincts. I always recommend that

718
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>people do that.

719
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:15.360
<v Speaker 3>I just do what I have to do and then

720
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 3>get back in the house.

721
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah all, bet, and I understand. Well, like I said,

722
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 2>if your house is that close to the woods, right

723
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 2>upon it sounds like after dark, are you ocd about

724
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.480
<v Speaker 2>making sure every last door and window was locked?

725
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I but I have always been like that, just

726
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:42.599
<v Speaker 3>as a child for some reason, like my grandparents would

727
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 3>always have all the windows open because we didn't have

728
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 3>ac for the longest time growing up. So like my

729
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 3>my grandparents would have all the windows and doors open

730
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.239
<v Speaker 3>throughout the day and then they would close them at night.

731
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Speaker 3>And I've always been a night owl, so I would

732
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.679
<v Speaker 3>usually stay up by myself when I was a kid,

733
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't like it if they didn't shut like

734
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 3>a window all the way or something. I always had

735
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 3>this just feeling like something was watching me. And so

736
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 3>ever since I was a kid, that's been like a

737
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 3>nightly routine for me to make sure there isn't even

738
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.679
<v Speaker 3>like a crack coming through a blind or a curtain

739
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 3>and everything needs to be locked.

740
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, once bitten twice shy, I can understand why, and

741
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.960
<v Speaker 2>especially if your houses that close to the woods. I mean,

742
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:27.719
<v Speaker 2>you deserve a lot of credit to be able to

743
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 2>even live there, so I'm impressed most eyewitnesses wouldn't be

744
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>able to do that. Well, let's transition over to asking

745
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.679
<v Speaker 2>the questions from the listeners in the live chat. But

746
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 2>before we do that, I want to put something out there.

747
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.360
<v Speaker 2>We've got donations that came in from both Tiffany and

748
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Long Island Bigfoot. I want to thank both of you

749
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:54.760
<v Speaker 2>so much for your support. But to everyone listening, it's

750
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>awfully nice of you to send these donations, but please

751
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>don't even worry about sending donations monetary donations. If you

752
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>have a mind to do that, then instead of doing that,

753
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:08.920
<v Speaker 2>please just focus your support that much more on the

754
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.599
<v Speaker 2>eyewitnesses you hear it coming on the show. Please remember

755
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.400
<v Speaker 2>that it's not that I don't appreciate the donations, it's

756
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 2>just I mean, I think it would be better served

757
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>if you just focused even more effort on supporting the guests.

758
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 2>So I just wanted to put that out there for everyone. Well,

759
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I definitely appreciate the donations, but you

760
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 2>definitely don't need to do that. Just by supporting the eyewitnesses,

761
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 2>you do more than I could ever ask for. Well,

762
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 2>let's move on to the first question from the a

763
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.760
<v Speaker 2>guest in the live chat. This is going to be

764
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:48.440
<v Speaker 2>from Sheen and Uminaser, and Sheannon wants to know could

765
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 2>you tell if it was a male or a female.

766
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 3>I assume it was a male. It I don't know why.

767
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.960
<v Speaker 3>It just didn't look feminine to me. I you know,

768
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 3>at the time, I didn't have anything to go off

769
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:11.039
<v Speaker 3>of what would be what It's fur was very thick,

770
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 3>so there wasn't like I could see much like that

771
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 3>sort of anatomy. But from what I have gathered the

772
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.960
<v Speaker 3>last couple of months of hearing people that usually the

773
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 3>female ones are a bit more curvy looking, and this

774
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 3>was more like a It was muscular and and wasn't

775
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 3>like curvy or anything like that. It wasn't big. I

776
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 3>mean it was like seven feet, so it's still big,

777
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't like huge body builder. But it felt

778
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 3>like a male to me. But I could be wrong,

779
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:49.079
<v Speaker 3>but I had nothing to say that it would be female.

780
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, from a distance, it can be pretty difficult to

781
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 2>tell for sure, but you never know. More than likely

782
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 2>listening to how it responded to you and everything, there's

783
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>a good possibility it was a female. But we're never

784
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 2>gonna know. All we can do is guess on that

785
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>ban Bang wants to know. And Nicole, did it smile

786
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:09.719
<v Speaker 2>at you?

787
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 3>No, it didn't. I mean I could see like its

788
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.880
<v Speaker 3>biggest things like sticking out of the front of its snout,

789
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 3>but it never like growled or menaced or even you know,

790
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 3>tried to make a friendly smile. It really felt like

791
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 3>it was trying to be the least amount of intimidating

792
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 3>as possible, which it stayed. It stayed, you know, kind

793
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.280
<v Speaker 3>of squatted down, and then when I panicked and it

794
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 3>was standing up, it backed away and squatted back down

795
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.639
<v Speaker 3>like it really tried to. It seemed almost like respectful

796
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:51.000
<v Speaker 3>and trying to keep me from being afraid again. Like

797
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I said, I don't think it was my new best buddy.

798
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was just trying to lure

799
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.519
<v Speaker 3>me into a sense of safety and hope that, you know,

800
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 3>next time it could get me. I don't know that.

801
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it could have had me right then and

802
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:07.800
<v Speaker 3>there if it had wanted to. But yeah, it didn't

803
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.840
<v Speaker 3>like ever really show its full teeth to me or anything.

804
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 3>I just could see it's big, the biggest thing sticking

805
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:15.320
<v Speaker 3>out of the front of its mouth.

806
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:19.079
<v Speaker 2>It might have been trying to set you up for

807
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 2>a fall down the road. But if you think about it,

808
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 2>it had you dead to rights right there. If it

809
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get you, why not just do it then

810
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and there. I mean, it's possible. I'm never going to

811
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 2>say it's not, but it just wouldn't make sense in

812
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:35.360
<v Speaker 2>my opinion for that reason.

813
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 3>No, Because I mean I was as vulnerable as you

814
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 3>could get. I was, you know, sitting on the ground

815
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 3>out there in the middle of the woods. I was

816
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 3>an intense pain. If it had wanted me right then

817
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 3>and there, it could have had me.

818
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:51.119
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah, please never lose sight of that fact.

819
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 2>The next one on deck is from Michigan medi Eater,

820
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.880
<v Speaker 2>and he wants to know, did you notice anything else

821
00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>forrest sounds, gone, smell, et cetera.

822
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I said, I forgot to mention the smell

823
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 3>that it did. It did stinc It smelled like almost

824
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 3>like a skunky smell mixed with like feces and ammonia.

825
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 3>As far as the sound. When I'm in that sort

826
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:18.800
<v Speaker 3>of pain and I'm already like in that like almost

827
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 3>blacking out state, my ears kind of go into like

828
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 3>a buzzing noess like, you know, like when you're about

829
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:27.639
<v Speaker 3>to faint, your ears just kind of clog out and

830
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of have that buzzing feeling to them. My I

831
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 3>was like that at the time from my pain, So

832
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 3>I honestly wouldn't have known if anything had changed as

833
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 3>far as sound around me or not.

834
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, yeah, it's so much going on in your mind.

835
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:47.039
<v Speaker 2>You're doing good to know your own name, So yeah,

836
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I think you deserve a lot of credit for that.

837
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 2>It looks like Michigan Med Theater has the next one

838
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>up to you. He wants to know. Did you notice

839
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 2>any type of expression on its face.

840
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:00.840
<v Speaker 3>It looked like it just like a curious dog. Like

841
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.760
<v Speaker 3>it looked like how my dogs do when they hear

842
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:07.119
<v Speaker 3>like a new sound or see something for the first time,

843
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.679
<v Speaker 3>where they're like they almost have me like their their

844
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.320
<v Speaker 3>little eyebrows kind of go up and cock their head

845
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:18.480
<v Speaker 3>to the side. It was if it wasn't so scary looking,

846
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 3>it would have almost been like a cute face, honestly,

847
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.440
<v Speaker 3>because how it was looking at me. But I was

848
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 3>obviously scared and intimidated by it. But it was just

849
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of kept looking me over like it was trying

850
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 3>to figure me out. And I think that's exactly what

851
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.320
<v Speaker 3>it was doing, because when it took over, it took

852
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 3>over my mind. I felt like something was saying like

853
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:42.039
<v Speaker 3>are you all right? Are you are you hurt? Do

854
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:44.599
<v Speaker 3>you need help? Like it was It's like it was

855
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out, like why is this human just

856
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.079
<v Speaker 3>sitting here on a bridge like this?

857
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:53.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, if it did understand definitively that you did

858
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 2>need help, I wonder what would have done. It's not

859
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like it could have cured into the hospital or anything.

860
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.400
<v Speaker 3>I have. That's the thing I have thought about the

861
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:06.000
<v Speaker 3>most over the years for this encounter, and I just wonder,

862
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 3>like what if I had said, yes, I do need help,

863
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.920
<v Speaker 3>like with this thing had tried to pick me up,

864
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.719
<v Speaker 3>and as we know, we've later found out anew where

865
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I lived. Would it had like taken me and like

866
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 3>dumped me in my backyard or something like?

867
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that wouldn't have been good at all.

868
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 3>No, even if I had needed help, I'd be like, no, no,

869
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:25.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

870
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'd say so understandably so too. The next

871
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.760
<v Speaker 2>one up is from Keith from sixteen seventy five. His

872
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 2>question is what color werethy eyes? If you could see

873
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.280
<v Speaker 2>you're doing fine. Took me thirty years before I spoke

874
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:41.679
<v Speaker 2>to Vic.

875
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Thank you both, well, thank you. The eyes I forgotten

876
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 3>to mention I did tell Vic about was my first

877
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 3>book to him. I'm a big I'm a whiskey girl.

878
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.199
<v Speaker 3>And those eyes were like sunlight going through a glass

879
00:51:54.199 --> 00:52:00.159
<v Speaker 3>of whiskey. It was like that bright orange brown amber color,

880
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.400
<v Speaker 3>you know. And like I said, it was like sunlight

881
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 3>going through a glass that kind of had that backlit effect,

882
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.559
<v Speaker 3>not like you know, full of blown, like a fake light,

883
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.639
<v Speaker 3>but just kind of like a subtle glow from within.

884
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:17.719
<v Speaker 3>They were very intense, and I tried to avoid looking

885
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.039
<v Speaker 3>at the eyes at first because I didn't want to

886
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 3>show it any disrespect for or anything. It wasn't until

887
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:27.800
<v Speaker 3>it started kind of taking over my mind and I

888
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.920
<v Speaker 3>felt more calm that I finally looked up into its eyes.

889
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:33.280
<v Speaker 3>When I asked it, I was like, oh, you're concerned

890
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 3>about me?

891
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely not what you would expect when you have

892
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.239
<v Speaker 2>a dog ma an the counter, But I'll take that

893
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 2>any day over the common ones. Yeah, yeah, those normal

894
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 2>are very good. The next question would be from legal

895
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>gun smoke and they want to know hmm, having a

896
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:59.199
<v Speaker 2>hard time understanding this one. I guess they're asking once

897
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the feeling came over, you did it kind of calm

898
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 2>your nerves?

899
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

900
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 4>It did.

901
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 3>It was like the best way I could described it

902
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:12.960
<v Speaker 3>was like my blood had had run cold as this

903
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 3>thing was coming towards me, and as soon as like

904
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 3>it took over my thoughts, it was like a warm

905
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 3>blanket was draped over me, and I just felt like

906
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:28.280
<v Speaker 3>everything was gonna be okay. When it stepped away from

907
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 3>me and back into the woods was when the the

908
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:36.519
<v Speaker 3>like the unsettled feeling crept back in. But I still

909
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.239
<v Speaker 3>felt less panicky than I had.

910
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, Thank goodness. Anything that you can point to and

911
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 2>say was a positive, We'll definitely take that anytime. She

912
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.039
<v Speaker 2>and and Umanezer wants to know. Was hanging its head

913
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 2>down like a dog's, like dogs do when they were

914
00:53:57.639 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 2>approaching someone scared.

915
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, kind of like like I said he was, he

916
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.480
<v Speaker 3>was sort of hunched over. I don't think he ever

917
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 3>even when standing up on his two leg on two legs,

918
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like he ever completely stood up straight.

919
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 3>He was hunched over and had his head down. It

920
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 3>was it was like I said he was, like it

921
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 3>felt like he was trying to look smaller and less menacing.

922
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:26.679
<v Speaker 2>To me, sounds like that Doledomy was trying to cater

923
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:28.840
<v Speaker 2>to you, like you said, to make it so that

924
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you weren't any more afraid than necessary. Thank goodness for that.

925
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, it could be a lot worse. He

926
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 2>can have one that wants to frighten the dickens out

927
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 2>of you.

928
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:37.599
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

929
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:41.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, we'll take this kind any day. And Conzell

930
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:43.760
<v Speaker 2>wants to know if you see him again, would you

931
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.119
<v Speaker 2>consider asking him his name? Or is that too dangerous

932
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 2>to be so familiar.

933
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think I would ever see him again, because,

934
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 3>like I said, this took place where my mom still

935
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 3>I am not close with my mom. I don't really

936
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:07.000
<v Speaker 3>have much of a reason to go there. I've only

937
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 3>been back, like I said, maybe three or four times.

938
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 3>And I now live in Florida, and everything has changed

939
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.920
<v Speaker 3>so much over there. It's no longer just woods and farmland.

940
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 3>It's now tons of neighborhoods and businesses and restaurants, and

941
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 3>it's it's not the same place it was those fourteen

942
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 3>years ago. So I highly doubt I would ever see him.

943
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:37.239
<v Speaker 3>But even the couple times that I have been back

944
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:41.760
<v Speaker 3>there at my mom's house. I've never gone back down

945
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:45.519
<v Speaker 3>to that area or anything. I just stayed close to

946
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.119
<v Speaker 3>the house, even like when I was like taking the

947
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 3>dog out or something. While I was there, I didn't

948
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.159
<v Speaker 3>go further than like the next cul de sac over

949
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 3>in the center of the neighborhood. Like, I never left

950
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:04.519
<v Speaker 3>concrete and buildings. Guy stayed well way away, well away

951
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 3>from any of the what would have what was left

952
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 3>of the wooded area, not that there was much left anymore.

953
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a really good idea. I'm glad you didn't

954
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.039
<v Speaker 2>go back. Yeah, I definitely have got too much weight

955
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:20.000
<v Speaker 2>on the young back, So thank goodness, bravo. Johnny wants

956
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 2>to know if any orbs were cited, wouldn't you have

957
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:23.440
<v Speaker 2>that encounter?

958
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:31.559
<v Speaker 3>No, not that I noticed. I mean i've seen orbs before,

959
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:34.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, Like I said, I've had my fair share

960
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 3>of other you know, supernatural things like as far as

961
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:41.639
<v Speaker 3>ghosts and things. But no, I didn't notice any orbs

962
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:43.840
<v Speaker 3>when I was faced with this dog man that day.

963
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.400
<v Speaker 2>The reason why he's asking is it's not isolated for

964
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 2>a dog man eyewitness or a sasquatch eye witness to

965
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 2>report seeing orbs. Right before or after their encounter. So

966
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what's behind that question.

967
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Gotcha. No, And then, like I said, I I was

968
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:04.840
<v Speaker 3>in so much pain and thought I was I was

969
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.239
<v Speaker 3>trying not to pass out anyway that there might have

970
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 3>been things that I was missing before this thing came out.

971
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.519
<v Speaker 3>Like I felt like I was about to go down,

972
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.440
<v Speaker 3>and that's why I sat down and was trying to

973
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.679
<v Speaker 3>like get myself together, and then that was when this

974
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Speaker 3>thing stepped out.

975
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're just trying to hold it together as understandable.

976
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Dress Carrizals. Carozales wants to know. You said that your

977
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.400
<v Speaker 2>mother believes in the non physical part of paranormal like ghosts,

978
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:40.239
<v Speaker 2>but dismisses the physical part like Bigfoot. Did you think

979
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:42.239
<v Speaker 2>he wants to know? Did you ask her why she

980
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.280
<v Speaker 2>does that? No?

981
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I didn't. It's hard, like it's hard to talk to

982
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 3>my mom about anything. She just she thinks she's right

983
00:57:55.480 --> 00:58:00.800
<v Speaker 3>about everything and anything. And so I sure as peck

984
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.199
<v Speaker 3>wasn't about to let her know that I saw this

985
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 3>and that have her, you know, questioning this. It just

986
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 3>I've had enough arguments with her about many many a

987
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:16.079
<v Speaker 3>thing in my lifetime, so it just it wasn't worth

988
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.000
<v Speaker 3>it to bring up something like this whether Yeah.

989
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't blame you. I'm sure it wouldn't have been

990
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:25.159
<v Speaker 2>well received, so not at all. Yeah, like I said,

991
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 2>who blames you? Who could blame you for not doing that?

992
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Julie A. Thurston wants to know, Nicole, you have all

993
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 2>the support in the world right here. Thank you for

994
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 2>breaking out of your comfort zone and sharing your experience

995
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.519
<v Speaker 2>with this. I guess it's more of a comment than

996
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:43.400
<v Speaker 2>a question, but that's awfully nice of you, Julie.

997
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Pressure than thank you, Julie, I really do appreciate that.

998
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I've been, you know, walking around for years with this

999
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:56.840
<v Speaker 3>and nobody's ever taken me seriously. And you know, it's

1000
00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 3>been to the point where I questioned it and thought,

1001
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:02.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe it was just the pain, maybe when

1002
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 3>I was about to pass out, maybe I started hallucinating

1003
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.360
<v Speaker 3>or something, you know, but I did see it. I

1004
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 3>saw what I saw, and then it only you know,

1005
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:13.920
<v Speaker 3>further confirmed it. You know, by the time you know,

1006
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.599
<v Speaker 3>I got home, I had medicine, I was doing better,

1007
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:19.679
<v Speaker 3>and saw it yet again at night. So whenever I

1008
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:22.840
<v Speaker 3>start to doubt myself, I'm like, well, you saw it again,

1009
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.280
<v Speaker 3>so that's your confirmation right there.

1010
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:29.199
<v Speaker 2>That's right. I'm glad you do that. Yeah, you're right.

1011
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:32.000
<v Speaker 2>You definitely saw it, and that's all there is to it.

1012
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Audisia Samber wants to know where its ears on the

1013
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.000
<v Speaker 2>top of its head or on the sides of its head. Also,

1014
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:42.000
<v Speaker 2>she wants to know do you think it was a

1015
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.480
<v Speaker 2>dog man or a werewolf? Of course, a werewolf being

1016
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 2>a person who had sheep shifted into that form.

1017
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.199
<v Speaker 3>Its ears were on the top of its head. They

1018
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.719
<v Speaker 3>were very long and pointy, like like a crop like

1019
00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:02.119
<v Speaker 3>Doberman ear. I mean, I assumed now learning about dog man,

1020
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a dog man. At the time,

1021
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a were wolf because that was

1022
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 3>the only thing I knew, you know, to go off of.

1023
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:15.320
<v Speaker 3>There was nothing else I had ever come across other

1024
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.639
<v Speaker 3>than movie were wolf, so that was what I thought.

1025
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:23.760
<v Speaker 3>But also at the same time, I didn't really think

1026
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.960
<v Speaker 3>that there were people transforming into wolves, you know. I

1027
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:32.199
<v Speaker 3>just thought that's just what you called this wolf like creature,

1028
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 3>was a werewolf, you know. But no, I think now

1029
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:37.760
<v Speaker 3>that I've learned about them, I think it was a

1030
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:38.239
<v Speaker 3>dog man.

1031
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:42.719
<v Speaker 2>That was a good way to answer it. It looks

1032
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.800
<v Speaker 2>like Gamber has another question. She wants to know, was

1033
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.440
<v Speaker 2>the dialogue in your head male female or your voice?

1034
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I think you already clarified that it wasn't an actual

1035
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 2>voice that you heard in your head talking to you.

1036
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.679
<v Speaker 2>It was your inner monologue that was taken over exactly.

1037
01:00:59.760 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1038
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear like a specific, like foreign voice. It

1039
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:07.960
<v Speaker 3>was just it was like something controlled my thoughts and also,

1040
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, it seemed to control my emotions because it

1041
01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:14.280
<v Speaker 3>made me feel calmer as it was doing this, and

1042
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 3>it just kind of took over that inner monologue. So

1043
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:22.039
<v Speaker 3>it was just like any normal thought running through my head,

1044
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 3>except this time it was like this thing's way of

1045
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:26.519
<v Speaker 3>communicating with me.

1046
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a lot to wrap your mind around. Daniel

1047
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Williams wants to know what do you do to stay

1048
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:35.960
<v Speaker 2>so grounded all the time.

1049
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I understand.

1050
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, it seems like you're really staying level headed when

1051
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:49.400
<v Speaker 2>you think about your encounters, and that's why you're able

1052
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to deal so well with them. Of Course, you have

1053
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.679
<v Speaker 2>some hang ups, but that's to be expected when you

1054
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:56.239
<v Speaker 2>have an encounter like the ones you had, and it's

1055
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 2>proven to you with your own two eyes that things

1056
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:02.400
<v Speaker 2>like this exist but all in all a big picture,

1057
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 2>you're dealing very well with those encounters, you really are,

1058
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>and I think he just wants to know how you're

1059
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:08.440
<v Speaker 2>able to deal with them.

1060
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:13.320
<v Speaker 3>So well, Oh thank you. Like I said, I grew

1061
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:17.079
<v Speaker 3>up in a haunted house and that made me much

1062
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:22.880
<v Speaker 3>more open minded to just the unknown and things in general.

1063
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 3>I had some very scary experiences in my own house

1064
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:37.480
<v Speaker 3>growing up, absolutely terrifying. I only spent one night completely

1065
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:40.039
<v Speaker 3>by myself in that house, and I would never do

1066
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:43.760
<v Speaker 3>it again. To this day, I have nightmares about that house.

1067
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.800
<v Speaker 3>But I've only had maybe one or two nightmares about

1068
01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:52.159
<v Speaker 3>my dog man experience. Honestly. Now, like I said, you know,

1069
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:56.519
<v Speaker 3>I'll go out into the woods, or my dog might

1070
01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 3>make a certain expression, or even today, I was walking

1071
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:02.920
<v Speaker 3>out of the kitchen into the living room and there

1072
01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.840
<v Speaker 3>was a movie trailer on for a new werewolf movie

1073
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 3>that's coming out, and I saw that werewolf and I

1074
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.519
<v Speaker 3>was like, whoa that that looks like the dog man

1075
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I saw. I was like, man, that's that person must

1076
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 3>have actually seen one, because that's crazy, and that sent

1077
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:23.039
<v Speaker 3>chills up my spine. But yeah, I've had some pretty

1078
01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:29.760
<v Speaker 3>scary experiences from from a child, like from a baby, honestly,

1079
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:35.119
<v Speaker 3>So this was just a new, terrifying thing, and with

1080
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:38.719
<v Speaker 3>how it acted, it was less scary than some of

1081
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:43.079
<v Speaker 3>the things I've had happen. It was just new and

1082
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:46.519
<v Speaker 3>unusual and unexpected because I didn't know such a thing existed.

1083
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 3>So that was just the only difference.

1084
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Really, Well, I can only imagine what you must have

1085
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:55.960
<v Speaker 2>experienced in that house. That's awfully intense. It's one thing

1086
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.199
<v Speaker 2>to go out and have experiences like this, but when

1087
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:04.440
<v Speaker 2>you're having these frightening experiences, terrifying experiences and encounters in

1088
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:07.639
<v Speaker 2>your own home, that is horrible. Don't know how you

1089
01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:08.039
<v Speaker 2>do it.

1090
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:11.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I said, I still have nightmares, and I'm

1091
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.760
<v Speaker 3>talking like every other night. I have nightmares, and I

1092
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:18.920
<v Speaker 3>have full blown night terrors. I wake up screaming. Sometimes

1093
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:22.800
<v Speaker 3>I have sleep paralysis. I'll wake up and see things,

1094
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:26.559
<v Speaker 3>and that scares my husband more than anything with some

1095
01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:28.599
<v Speaker 3>of my reactions in the middle of the night.

1096
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh bet, Yeah, you're sleeping next to someone and they

1097
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:35.119
<v Speaker 2>wake up screaming. Yes, it's not a good way to

1098
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 2>wake up. Yeah, huh, that freaking anyone out? It looks

1099
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:43.760
<v Speaker 2>like Cody laughing wolf, Hey, Cody he's got the next question,

1100
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.280
<v Speaker 2>or I guess it's a comment. He's saying, your sounds

1101
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 2>almost exactly like Sasha, that's a female dog woman that

1102
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:52.800
<v Speaker 2>he came on the show twice and talked about his

1103
01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 2>encounters with. He wants to know. Do you think they're

1104
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the same type. It's good to be wary.

1105
01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:03.360
<v Speaker 3>I've at actually listen to Cody's stories, and from the

1106
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.119
<v Speaker 3>sound of it, they do sound very similar.

1107
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, they just might be a mean yours

1108
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 2>just might have been a female. I wouldn't be surprised.

1109
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.679
<v Speaker 2>All we can do is guess, of course, but you know,

1110
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:19.800
<v Speaker 2>like I said, it wouldn't be surprised in the least.

1111
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 2>This next question is from the light seeker. He wants

1112
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:26.760
<v Speaker 2>to know or she wants to know. Was there a

1113
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:27.960
<v Speaker 2>full moon out that night?

1114
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:34.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember. The first encounter I had was like

1115
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:40.000
<v Speaker 3>late afternoon, early evening, and then that night, you know,

1116
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:45.360
<v Speaker 3>when I saw it, I didn't take note. I can't remember. Honestly,

1117
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:50.039
<v Speaker 3>I should, honestly probably look at a calendar from around

1118
01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:52.239
<v Speaker 3>that time period and see if I can pinpoint when

1119
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:54.239
<v Speaker 3>it was and if there was one that night.

1120
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, please don't feel bad about not remembering because, like

1121
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I said, you had so much on your mind at

1122
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.199
<v Speaker 2>the time, no one can fault you for not paying

1123
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:06.119
<v Speaker 2>attention to what the moon's like. Wh So I get it,

1124
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 2>I do, And the tig chick wants to know. I'm

1125
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:12.760
<v Speaker 2>looking at your weld here, tig chicken looks like it

1126
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:16.920
<v Speaker 2>needs a little more heat. Well, anyway, Tigchick wants to know.

1127
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Nicole for sharing. Did your dog's behavior change

1128
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:24.679
<v Speaker 2>after that encounter? More protective with you or more needy

1129
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:25.000
<v Speaker 2>with you?

1130
01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 3>She didn't really get more protect as I'd say, like

1131
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:35.719
<v Speaker 3>she just wasn't the type of dog to challenge anything.

1132
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:41.760
<v Speaker 3>She was just a complete sweetheart. She was still very

1133
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:48.960
<v Speaker 3>friendly to everybody, though ironically she got a bit more adventurous,

1134
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:52.440
<v Speaker 3>which was odd because she was so afraid that day.

1135
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:57.199
<v Speaker 3>But there got to the point where, like if you

1136
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:00.400
<v Speaker 3>opened the door and you weren't paying attention, she'd out

1137
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:03.760
<v Speaker 3>and take off running and you'd have to go chase

1138
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:07.159
<v Speaker 3>her down. And I mean she'd go out there and

1139
01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 3>get out in the cow pastures and in the woods

1140
01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.480
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. So I don't know if if she decided

1141
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:14.800
<v Speaker 3>she had a new buddy or what, but you know,

1142
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.159
<v Speaker 3>she came, would always come back safe and sound.

1143
01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:23.119
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, thank goodness for that. Sounds like a

1144
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:25.519
<v Speaker 2>really sweet dog she was, and I just hate that.

1145
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Do you have anything happening to her back then?

1146
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:31.840
<v Speaker 3>She sure was. We lost her about five years ago.

1147
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:37.679
<v Speaker 3>She finally met her match with a rattlesnake unfortunately, so

1148
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 3>that was devastating. She was a she was a good dog.

1149
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:43.960
<v Speaker 3>But she lived a long, happy life and she was

1150
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:44.599
<v Speaker 3>well loved.

1151
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Wollw How old was she?

1152
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Let's see, I I'm thirty four now, passed away out

1153
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:57.400
<v Speaker 3>five years ago, so I was twenty nine and I

1154
01:07:57.519 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 3>got her when I was sixteen, when I six sxteenth

1155
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:02.960
<v Speaker 3>birthday present, so about thirteen years.

1156
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I reckon she was Wow. Yeah, that's a long life.

1157
01:08:07.119 --> 01:08:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I definitely hate to hear that she died because of

1158
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:12.760
<v Speaker 2>the rattlesnake bite, but you had a time.

1159
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, thank.

1160
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Goodness for that. This next question is from Keitln McLeod

1161
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and Keaitlyn wants to know, Sugar, how is this experience

1162
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:25.439
<v Speaker 2>going to affect your life from this point?

1163
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Don Well, I mean, ever since that day, I've definitely

1164
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:36.119
<v Speaker 3>been more cautious when I go out and about in

1165
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:40.399
<v Speaker 3>the woods and whatnot. I'll admit the first few months

1166
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:45.680
<v Speaker 3>after it happened, I didn't really go wandering about anymore.

1167
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:48.600
<v Speaker 3>The rest of the time that I was still living

1168
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:51.680
<v Speaker 3>at my mother's house, I never went back out, like

1169
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:54.520
<v Speaker 3>as far as taking my dog out and stuff. We

1170
01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:58.359
<v Speaker 3>stayed like in my mom's fence backyard, and our exercise

1171
01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 3>consisted of, you know, playing with free v's and balls

1172
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.960
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. I didn't go out of my way

1173
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:08.720
<v Speaker 3>to take her elsewhere other than you know, just within

1174
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:15.399
<v Speaker 3>the my mom's neighborhood. And I'm still cautious. I'll venture

1175
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.359
<v Speaker 3>around the places around our house now and stuff, and

1176
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm just very way more alert, and I know that

1177
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:27.720
<v Speaker 3>there's things out there now. But other than that, I

1178
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:31.239
<v Speaker 3>just I keep on keep on going. I don't want

1179
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:35.079
<v Speaker 3>to like let it, you know, cripple me from living life, obviously.

1180
01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:40.720
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just thankful that I found this community, obviously,

1181
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:44.439
<v Speaker 3>because for years and years I was basically living in

1182
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:49.800
<v Speaker 3>silence and felt sort of crazy and misunderstood. And I'm

1183
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:52.039
<v Speaker 3>just thankful to have somewhere I can go now and

1184
01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:55.279
<v Speaker 3>people to communicate with that are going to understand what

1185
01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:56.119
<v Speaker 3>I went through.

1186
01:09:57.720 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, it goes without saying I'm so glad that you

1187
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.079
<v Speaker 2>know you you've got all the support and you've got

1188
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:05.560
<v Speaker 2>this community around you. Speaking of the sense of community,

1189
01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:08.319
<v Speaker 2>do you think it'd help you if you could compare

1190
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:11.399
<v Speaker 2>notes with Cody and that way you could kind of

1191
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.199
<v Speaker 2>talk about the possibility, of course, that the one you

1192
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:16.439
<v Speaker 2>saw was a female. Of course, the one that he's

1193
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:19.920
<v Speaker 2>been interacting with his female. You've listened to it shows.

1194
01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it would help you if you could

1195
01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:24.159
<v Speaker 2>speak with him and compare notes that way?

1196
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, sure, Like I would love any more information

1197
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:32.760
<v Speaker 3>and to be able to share experiences with somebody else,

1198
01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:37.479
<v Speaker 3>especially somebody that seemed to encounter a very similar type

1199
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:39.199
<v Speaker 3>of dog man. So yeah, I think that would be

1200
01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 3>really helpful.

1201
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I thought it might be. But I'm going to

1202
01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:47.760
<v Speaker 2>contact Cody off air and ask him about that and

1203
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.800
<v Speaker 2>talk with him about that, and if he's gained for

1204
01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.800
<v Speaker 2>doing that, then you'll just help you coordinate that conversation

1205
01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and that way you can take it from there. And

1206
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.319
<v Speaker 2>of course, if he's too busy to do that, or

1207
01:10:58.319 --> 01:10:59.840
<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't want to do that, then I can

1208
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:03.000
<v Speaker 2>definitely peer you up with other eyewitnesses. But one way

1209
01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:05.520
<v Speaker 2>or the other, we'll see this through count on.

1210
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:08.560
<v Speaker 3>That sounds good, all right.

1211
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:13.199
<v Speaker 2>The next question is from Andra's Carizales and Andres wants

1212
01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:16.399
<v Speaker 2>to know when the dog man controlled your inner words,

1213
01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:19.520
<v Speaker 2>did you get the sense that it was old? Asking

1214
01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:23.479
<v Speaker 2>because of the color of fur? Oh, I see what

1215
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:26.960
<v Speaker 2>he's asking. When the dog man controlled your inner words,

1216
01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.560
<v Speaker 2>did you get the sense that it was old? I'm

1217
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:33.560
<v Speaker 2>asking because of the color of its fur, oh.

1218
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Because of it being a gray one? I honestly don't know.

1219
01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really get a sense either way, and just

1220
01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:46.760
<v Speaker 3>going off, you know, like looking at it, it didn't

1221
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that was gray, but it didn't necessarily look old.

1222
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:55.000
<v Speaker 3>But not that I have anything to compare it to really,

1223
01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 3>other than you know, like my old dog tiger who's

1224
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:02.840
<v Speaker 3>like going in the face. It wasn't like one like that.

1225
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.439
<v Speaker 3>It was still dark. It was a very dark gray

1226
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.840
<v Speaker 3>with almost like a blueness to it. It didn't have

1227
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.960
<v Speaker 3>like those like faded fur features to like its face

1228
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:15.439
<v Speaker 3>or anything that I could see.

1229
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I see. Yeah, I mean, you've got young dog men

1230
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:24.079
<v Speaker 2>that are gray, So that's no guarantee that it's old.

1231
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:27.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a possibility it was old because of that, But yeah,

1232
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess We're never going to know the answer to that.

1233
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:32.920
<v Speaker 2>It really won't. The next one up is from Michigan

1234
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Meat Eater, and he wants to know did it look

1235
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:39.199
<v Speaker 2>natural on two legs or unsteady? Slash not used to it?

1236
01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh? No, it was. It was very natural looking, like

1237
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:46.680
<v Speaker 3>it just strolled right out of there this which made

1238
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:50.239
<v Speaker 3>it like even more unsettling, because I mean, it stepped

1239
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.920
<v Speaker 3>right out of that woodline, just on two feet, and

1240
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:57.319
<v Speaker 3>it just looked like you or me just walking around.

1241
01:12:57.439 --> 01:13:00.520
<v Speaker 3>It was I mean, obviously not the look of it,

1242
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:02.520
<v Speaker 3>but it seemed very comfortable.

1243
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a funny thing about these guys. Some of

1244
01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:09.720
<v Speaker 2>them look unsteady on two legs and others they come

1245
01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:10.560
<v Speaker 2>out like a boss.

1246
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:16.279
<v Speaker 3>So it seemed like it only really got down on

1247
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:19.920
<v Speaker 3>all fours when it was getting closer to me. Like,

1248
01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:21.279
<v Speaker 3>like I said, it seemed like it was trying to

1249
01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:25.840
<v Speaker 3>make itself look smaller, because mostly when it moved, it

1250
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 3>got up on two legs. When it was on all fours,

1251
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.520
<v Speaker 3>it just sort of kind of scooted towards me. So

1252
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:36.359
<v Speaker 3>it seemed more comfortable on two legs. To be honest, that.

1253
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Still had to be awfully frightening the fact that it

1254
01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:41.800
<v Speaker 2>was just moving towards your period. So, like I said before,

1255
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 2>you deserve a lot of credit for holding it together

1256
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:48.479
<v Speaker 2>the way you did not easy at all. Now, for

1257
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:51.279
<v Speaker 2>this next question, I'm going to preface it by saying, yeah,

1258
01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:55.079
<v Speaker 2>you already admitted that you've had ongoing nightmares because of

1259
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:58.920
<v Speaker 2>the haunted house experiences. But the light Seeker wants to know,

1260
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 2>and they're asking obviously about your dog meaning encounters there.

1261
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Have you had any nightmares since the incident.

1262
01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:11.399
<v Speaker 3>I've had a couple of dog man related nightmares, Like

1263
01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I said, not many, like maybe only two or three,

1264
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:20.439
<v Speaker 3>And they weren't even necessarily like like a reenactment of

1265
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:23.600
<v Speaker 3>that day. It was it's just been kind of like

1266
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:27.960
<v Speaker 3>I've been somewhere and I see a dog man. One

1267
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:30.359
<v Speaker 3>of them. One of the dreams I had it was

1268
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.119
<v Speaker 3>like attacking me in the car, and a couple other

1269
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:37.640
<v Speaker 3>times was was kind of just seeing it more so

1270
01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:40.760
<v Speaker 3>at a distance. So the true nightmare was the one

1271
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.199
<v Speaker 3>of me like being attacked in a car. But I

1272
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:47.560
<v Speaker 3>think I had also like I have been doing research

1273
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:50.199
<v Speaker 3>around that time, and so I was also coming across

1274
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:55.520
<v Speaker 3>some different stories. Oh, and I had a dream because

1275
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:59.079
<v Speaker 3>I heard a story where this girl said that she

1276
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:03.399
<v Speaker 3>was like in her bed and there was one trying

1277
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:05.239
<v Speaker 3>to get her to open the door, Like there was

1278
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:07.960
<v Speaker 3>a glass window and it was looking into her bedroom

1279
01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:09.520
<v Speaker 3>and was trying to get her to come to the door.

1280
01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:11.880
<v Speaker 3>It was like motioning for her. And I had a

1281
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.840
<v Speaker 3>nightmare where I was in that scenario. But yeah, that's

1282
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:20.039
<v Speaker 3>the the ones I can remember the most. I know.

1283
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I had like a couple more, but they was just

1284
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:24.000
<v Speaker 3>like kind of seeing them at a distance.

1285
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank goodness, you evn't had a collection of them,

1286
01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:32.359
<v Speaker 2>just a few, Yeah, yeah, thank goodness. Or that. The

1287
01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:35.880
<v Speaker 2>next one is from bon Jasso and Bond wants to know,

1288
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.640
<v Speaker 2>do you think it was tribal? Well, I guess he means,

1289
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:42.000
<v Speaker 2>do you think it was a tribal thing or just

1290
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:46.399
<v Speaker 2>a crazy or just crazy encounters?

1291
01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:54.079
<v Speaker 3>I honestly don't know. I don't think like as far

1292
01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:57.640
<v Speaker 3>as like that lands there, I don't know if if

1293
01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:01.760
<v Speaker 3>it has any ties like the Native American Americans there

1294
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:06.760
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. I've never had another encounter. I've

1295
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know of anybody around the area having an encounter,

1296
01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:16.000
<v Speaker 3>at least nobody I've talked to, the closest thing I've

1297
01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.560
<v Speaker 3>had is my brother had something to tap on his

1298
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:24.800
<v Speaker 3>window one night that I didn't talk to him too

1299
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:28.119
<v Speaker 3>much about it because my brother's a lot younger than me.

1300
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.600
<v Speaker 3>He's only just now turned thirteen and I'm thirty four,

1301
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:34.720
<v Speaker 3>So this happened when he was smaller, and I didn't

1302
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:38.039
<v Speaker 3>really want to startle him, and he didn't see anything anyway.

1303
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:41.479
<v Speaker 3>He has like blackout curtains and he didn't open the window,

1304
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:44.920
<v Speaker 3>So who's to say what it was or who it was?

1305
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:48.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, how long do you think you're going to

1306
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:51.000
<v Speaker 2>wait before you go into great detail with him about

1307
01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:56.119
<v Speaker 2>your experiences.

1308
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.359
<v Speaker 3>Until probably when he's an adult and away from my mom.

1309
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:05.039
<v Speaker 3>She has him homeschooled and he's attached to her twenty

1310
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 3>four seven. I wasn't really raised by her. I was

1311
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:12.000
<v Speaker 3>raised by my grandparents, and he's having a very different

1312
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:17.720
<v Speaker 3>upbringing than what I had, So he's being raised to

1313
01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:22.760
<v Speaker 3>see things more her way. So it'd just be easier

1314
01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:25.600
<v Speaker 3>to communicate with him about these things when he's not

1315
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:26.760
<v Speaker 3>under her thumb.

1316
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can see a lot of problems with you

1317
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.640
<v Speaker 2>trying to communicate with him about this when he's with her.

1318
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like she's pretty controlling.

1319
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:39.079
<v Speaker 3>To be honest, I only stay in touch because of him.

1320
01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 3>It's just for me to be able to be there

1321
01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:43.640
<v Speaker 3>for my little brother, you know. So I don't want

1322
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:46.119
<v Speaker 3>to rock the boat too soon, you know.

1323
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I get it, I really do. No more.

1324
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Funland wants to know. Do you think it sends your

1325
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:57.119
<v Speaker 2>extreme pain and showed itself to check on you out

1326
01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:57.720
<v Speaker 2>of concern?

1327
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:02.079
<v Speaker 3>I could see doing that because I mean, like my

1328
01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:07.520
<v Speaker 3>dogs now, they I mean they know when whenever I'm

1329
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:11.239
<v Speaker 3>having like issues and going through different phases of a

1330
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:14.560
<v Speaker 3>cycle and having different levels of pain and whatnot, And

1331
01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:17.279
<v Speaker 3>I know dogs are sensitive to that, so I'm sure

1332
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:20.760
<v Speaker 3>a dog man would be. Or maybe I mean I

1333
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:24.640
<v Speaker 3>wasn't paying attention to that woodline beforehand. Maybe it just

1334
01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:26.720
<v Speaker 3>saw me sit down on the bridge and thought, what

1335
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:29.600
<v Speaker 3>the heck is she doing? You know, and it just

1336
01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:31.319
<v Speaker 3>came over out of curiosity.

1337
01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, there are a lot of reasons why it

1338
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:37.159
<v Speaker 2>might have come out and did what it did, But

1339
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:39.399
<v Speaker 2>all we can do is guess. We're never gonna know.

1340
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Sticky Sweet wants to know. Do you think they're evil

1341
01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:44.039
<v Speaker 2>by nature?

1342
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I honestly, I don't know. I don't know. If you

1343
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:56.880
<v Speaker 3>would call them evil, I just feel like there's something

1344
01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:02.439
<v Speaker 3>that's that's here and from you know, from what I've learned,

1345
01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:06.920
<v Speaker 3>I've never really heard anything about them until very recently,

1346
01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:10.960
<v Speaker 3>so I feel like they tried to just stay away

1347
01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:13.319
<v Speaker 3>from us, do their thing and let us do ours.

1348
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:16.560
<v Speaker 3>So I don't feel like they have to go out

1349
01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:20.399
<v Speaker 3>of their way to be you know, quote unquote evil

1350
01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:24.319
<v Speaker 3>to us unless we wander into the wrong wrong part.

1351
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:31.159
<v Speaker 3>The dog man I saw was seemed caring towards me.

1352
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:34.560
<v Speaker 3>It acted like it was concerned and wanted to help.

1353
01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:40.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that was genuine, if it wanted

1354
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:45.800
<v Speaker 3>me to continue to come back or what, But I

1355
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:48.640
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't feel we can truly just label it

1356
01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:50.920
<v Speaker 3>as just you know, it's not like a mindless evil

1357
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:55.760
<v Speaker 3>being obviously. I mean, this thing was intelligent, and the

1358
01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:59.079
<v Speaker 3>other stories I've heard they're they're definitely intelligent and they

1359
01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:03.600
<v Speaker 3>know what they're doing, and some go out of their

1360
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:07.720
<v Speaker 3>way to terrorize people and some just want you to

1361
01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:09.000
<v Speaker 3>get out of their way.

1362
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely hard to think for these guys. There's

1363
01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:15.159
<v Speaker 2>really no way to do it. If you think what

1364
01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:18.399
<v Speaker 2>hard it is to think for people it's no wonder

1365
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that you can't think for these guys. The next question

1366
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:27.640
<v Speaker 2>is from g L. James, and they want to know

1367
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:30.880
<v Speaker 2>has Nicole suffered from many migraines after the encounter.

1368
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:37.119
<v Speaker 3>I do. I have very very bad migraines, but they

1369
01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:42.399
<v Speaker 3>also run in my family, and they also are very

1370
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:46.920
<v Speaker 3>prone with women who have endometriosis like I do, and

1371
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:52.079
<v Speaker 3>they tend to occur at certain times with me, like

1372
01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:57.079
<v Speaker 3>every single month. So, but and they didn't start until

1373
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:00.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe five or six years ago for me. So it's

1374
01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:03.439
<v Speaker 3>not something I'd been dealing with, you know, like right

1375
01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:07.720
<v Speaker 3>after the encounter or anything. It's just kind of as

1376
01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:11.239
<v Speaker 3>my health has gotten worse with my INDO stuff that

1377
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I've had more extreme symptoms and things like that start

1378
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:20.800
<v Speaker 3>to happen. So I really don't think if it has

1379
01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:22.600
<v Speaker 3>anything to do with the dog man. I think it

1380
01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:23.760
<v Speaker 3>just has to do with that.

1381
01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, Well, no matter what the cause for that, I'm

1382
01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:29.960
<v Speaker 2>so sorry to hear you have to go through that.

1383
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Well, you're welcome. Yeah, I just want the

1384
01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:38.399
<v Speaker 2>best for you. I've got one more comment for you,

1385
01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:42.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's actually from Cody. Cody's message is Nicole, I'm

1386
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:45.720
<v Speaker 2>glad you're talking about this. I'm sorry it scared you.

1387
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Not everyone can have encounters like Sasha and I. If

1388
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you ever want to talk, I'm open. So there's the

1389
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:55.840
<v Speaker 2>answer right there. After the show, I'm gonna contact him. Well,

1390
01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:58.159
<v Speaker 2>I still have a lot of work to do tonight

1391
01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:00.439
<v Speaker 2>to prep this show and everything, so I might not

1392
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:02.920
<v Speaker 2>be able to send Cody a message until tomorrow, but

1393
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:06.640
<v Speaker 2>rest assured I will contact him to try and coordinate

1394
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:08.560
<v Speaker 2>this conversation between the two of you.

1395
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:12.680
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. I really appreciate that. Thank you, Cody, and

1396
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:13.279
<v Speaker 3>thank you Vic.

1397
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a good man. I'm not surprised he's doing this,

1398
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:21.239
<v Speaker 2>not surprised at all. Well, before we get out of

1399
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:23.439
<v Speaker 2>here and Nicole, do you have any closing comments you'd

1400
01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:24.600
<v Speaker 2>like to put out there for us?

1401
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I just want to say that I'm really, really glad

1402
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:36.239
<v Speaker 3>I found this community. I really want to think it

1403
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:38.920
<v Speaker 3>was it Tiffany and her daughter Mattie. I heard your

1404
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:43.840
<v Speaker 3>show last week and hearing Maddie speak about it, I thought, well,

1405
01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:47.640
<v Speaker 3>if Maddie can come on here and talk about this,

1406
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:49.960
<v Speaker 3>then I want to. I just I want to do

1407
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:54.239
<v Speaker 3>this too. She was She was like, you know, she

1408
01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:57.840
<v Speaker 3>gave me, this this stepping stone to want to be brave.

1409
01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:00.319
<v Speaker 3>I was like, if this little girl can do this,

1410
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:03.479
<v Speaker 3>I need to be brave too. And so the next

1411
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:07.800
<v Speaker 3>day I contacted Vic and he got in touch with

1412
01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:11.680
<v Speaker 3>me very shortly after. And this has just all been

1413
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:15.119
<v Speaker 3>really eye opening and I'm and if anybody that's listening

1414
01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:18.159
<v Speaker 3>to this, if you're like me and you didn't know

1415
01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:21.319
<v Speaker 3>what you saw, or you're just learning about these things

1416
01:23:21.359 --> 01:23:26.039
<v Speaker 3>and you need somebody to talk to, please don't hesitate

1417
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:29.439
<v Speaker 3>to contact Vic. He will truly help you. And this

1418
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:32.239
<v Speaker 3>community just seems so wonderful. And again I'm just so

1419
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:36.359
<v Speaker 3>grateful to found it. So if you please don't hesitate.

1420
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:39.079
<v Speaker 3>If you want to reach out, go ahead and do it.

1421
01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Don't let anything stop you.

1422
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I told you before, I'm so glad you

1423
01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:46.800
<v Speaker 2>did find out about this community, and of course about

1424
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:50.239
<v Speaker 2>me as well. And here he had all this apprehension

1425
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:52.119
<v Speaker 2>about coming on and you knocked it out of the

1426
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:55.399
<v Speaker 2>park tonight. I knew you could do it. I really did,

1427
01:23:56.399 --> 01:23:56.800
<v Speaker 2>thank you.

1428
01:23:57.439 --> 01:23:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I was very nervous, and I think a lot of

1429
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:04.319
<v Speaker 3>I like excitement when telling the story was just was

1430
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:07.439
<v Speaker 3>more of the stage fright than from the reliving the

1431
01:24:07.479 --> 01:24:08.000
<v Speaker 3>dog Man.

1432
01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, well, that happens. I mean I've told people who

1433
01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:15.960
<v Speaker 2>are nervous before shows of ear that it's totally normal.

1434
01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've had people come on the show who

1435
01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>this show even, who have their own podcasts, and they're

1436
01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:26.800
<v Speaker 2>so nervous before we started recording, you could pretty much

1437
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.199
<v Speaker 2>hear them shake. So it's trust me, it's not just you.

1438
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:33.760
<v Speaker 2>If people who host their own podcasts can get that nervous,

1439
01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:37.439
<v Speaker 2>then I mean it's only normal for someone who doesn't

1440
01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>do this to get nervous like that, So that's no biggie.

1441
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:43.800
<v Speaker 2>And besides that, like I said, you knocked it out

1442
01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:47.199
<v Speaker 2>of the park tonight. I mean, you put an excellent

1443
01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>explanation out there of your encounters for us, and your

1444
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.479
<v Speaker 2>answers for all these questions were spot on, So you

1445
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't leave anything wanting. You didn't.

1446
01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:01.479
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm glad to think thank you well.

1447
01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:05.600
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. You are welcome. Well. Having said all that, Nicole,

1448
01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:08.199
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'm so glad you reached out. And

1449
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>if you ever need any help from me, all you

1450
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>have to do is just let me know, and by

1451
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:15.399
<v Speaker 2>all means, I'll schedule another conversation with you. To find

1452
01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:18.439
<v Speaker 2>out what's ailing you in. Well take it from there.

1453
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:21.119
<v Speaker 2>But having said all that, thanks Against so much for

1454
01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:23.039
<v Speaker 2>coming on and have a great night.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you you too, by everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome, take care all right, that's another one in

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<v Speaker 2>the books. Everyone, thanks Against so much for all of

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<v Speaker 2>your support for these eyewitnesses. Is you can hear it

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<v Speaker 2>definitely makes a difference and for that I can't thank

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<v Speaker 2>you enough. One last thing before you get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've had a dog mean encounter or dog me

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<v Speaker 2>in encounters of your own and you'd like to reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to me for help, or maybe you want to

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<v Speaker 2>come on the show and share your experience or experiences

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<v Speaker 2>with dog men with the listeners, well all you would

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<v Speaker 2>need to do is just to go to Dogmanencounters dot

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<v Speaker 2>com and submit a report. And if you do that

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll contact you to schedule a phone conversation. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll take it from there. But yeah, I can't thank

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<v Speaker 2>you enough. Like I said, for all of your support,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do appreciate it and hope you all have

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<v Speaker 2>a great weekend and a great night.