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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

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much for joining us for another live episode of the show.

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I really appreciate it. Before we bring on tonight's guest,

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I want to give you two updates about past guests.

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Number one, last week's guest Tiffany. Unfortunately, she's had some

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things happen since she was last week that just further

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reinforced the point that she made the right decision to

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move out. That's a good thing in a way, but

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in another way, that was her dream property. So it's

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just so unfortunate that all this had to happen. These

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things that have happened, or just reminders about how bad

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of a situation that is. And like I told her

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before several times, I'm so glad she's leaving that behind.

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you is Kim, the eyewitness who came back on to

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update us on her imber siting. Kim contacted me to

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let me know that unfortunately the dog Men found her.

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They found out where she lives, and they've been watching her.

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That's bad in a way, but it might be good

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news in a way. What I'm getting at is we

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had a good conversation last weekend about this, and after

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talking with her about what's been going on, she's been

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seeing a pair of eyes in the woods, and she

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can make out a silhouette that looks like is probably

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a fairly decent sized male dog man that's been watching her. Well,

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there's another set of eyes where she hasn't been able

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to see what those eyes belong to very well. Well,

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after we had been speaking for some time, I told her,

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I said, well, you know, it sure sounds to me

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like you do know who owns those eyes that are

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more distant. I told her, I'm pretty sure that's Ember.

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in they're watching her house. She got excited when I

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she got kind of excited when I brought that possibility up.

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Maybe that's what's going on, Maybe it's not. We really

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time will tell. I don't think it's going to be

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all that long before whoever those dogmen are, they really

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make their presence known and she'll be able to get

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a good look consequently. Well enough on that, let's bring

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on tonight's guest. Tonight's guest is Nicole. Nicole, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: Hi, Vick, thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks so much for coming. We appreciate your time. Nicole.

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You've got a unique encounter to share with this tonight.

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Most encounters, the eyewitnesses felt like they're about to be attacked,

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sometimes even killed. But your encounter was a different kind

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of encounter. We're going to get into the meat and

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potatoes of that later on, but your encounter is kind

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of a fresh breath of air for me because lately

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it's been bad encounter after bad encounter. I was contacted,

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what two three days ago from a guy who claims

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that a sasquatch that he's interacted with for years saved

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his life from a dog mean that was trying to

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kill him. So that's just one more bad encounter that

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I've been made aware of and I've been trying to

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help people with. So, like I said, talk with you

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about your encounter and hear what actually happened. Yeah, that's

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why I'm saying. It's kind of like a fresh breath

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of air. But like I said, we'll get into that

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in a bit. Before we do, we need to cover

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some other things, such as, please give us a brief

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm Nicole. I was born and raised in a

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small town in Georgia, where I lived in a very

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haunted house with my grandparents. I lived there until I

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was about eighteen or nineteen, where I moved into my

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mom's house in an even smaller town in Georgia, which

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then shortly after that, I moved here to Florida for

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a job, where I've now been ever since. And I

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our rescue cat. And that's about it. I work from home,

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our animals. I'm very passionate about rescuing animals, and I

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that's where most of my time and where my heart

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Speaker 2: Well that's great. I think that's great that you rescue animals.

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they were like, hey, do y'all want to come get

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a dog to foster or take one on? And I

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was like, I'm not gonna just foster. I'm going to

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take one, so let me come take a look. And

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Speaker 2: I'll bet those two keep you busy, don't they.

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Speaker 3: They sure do, especially the ridgeback.

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glad you do that sort of thing. Nicole, you said

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that you were raised in a hunted house. Do you

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think there's a chance that just might have prepared you,

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at least a little for the encounter that you're going

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to tell us about.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, Yeah, I would say so, it definitely, you know,

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from a I mean, I had encounters with spirits from

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when I was a baby, like things I don't even remember,

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but my mom and grandma would tell me about. But

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through my teenage years there and then as an adult,

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I still have had things happen. So I was very

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open minded about you know, other things I had. As

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I told you, I had never heard of the term

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dog man until a couple of months ago and then

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was turned towards your show. So when I saw what

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of was you know, movie where wolves, and I didn't

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know such a thing existed, but I definitely, you know,

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wasn't opposed to there being such a thing because I'd

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always believed in in the sasquatch and I never you know,

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who am I to say what is or isn't out there?

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's true, well as you've seen with

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your own two eyes. I mean, if dog men could

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be out there, who knows what could be out there?

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did you find out what it was that you had

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that encounter with, or are those two encounters with?

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Speaker 3: I should say, well, I didn't really have anybody to

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truly talk about it, and anytime I've brought it up,

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you know, people were like, that doesn't exist. And whenever

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I would like try to look it up, you know,

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never came across the term dog man until about two

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or three months ago. I saw a TikTok video of

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an encounter somebody had with a dog man in Mexico,

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and all the comments were telling her to come to

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you and that they should check out your show, and

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so I was like, what's a dog man? So I

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looked up your show, started listening to it, doing research,

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and I was like, okay, so that's what I saw.

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I'm finally just understanding what I saw.

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Speaker 2: Well better late than ever. I'm so glad you found

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out what these guys are and what they're called. From

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what I understand, you told your husband about the two

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encounters we're going to talk about tonight. How did he respond? Though?

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Speaker 3: You cut out for a se I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's all right. From what I understand, you told

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he does not believe in me. He does

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not believe in anything paranormal. And like I said, I've

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I've had stuff happen here because I inherited things from

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my grandparents' house that I was raised in, and there's

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definitely a things attached to some of those objects. So

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we have things here happen in our house. I know

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for a fact he's witnessed these things, but he's always

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trying to find a way to explain these things away.

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was in a lot of pain during the time of

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my encounter, and so he just simply thinks that I

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was just like hallucinating or just delusional and delirious from

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the amount of pain I was in. But I saw

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what I saw.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course you did, and shame on him for

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thinking that somehow you could do that. He knows you're

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of sound mind, he knows you're not a liar. So

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if you tell him that that's what you saw, he

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should take that. So the fact he doesn't that makes

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me not a big fan of his. I'm just going

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to tell you right now. That's right, all right, Nicole,

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last detail that comes to mind.

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those houses, you know, owned on the land around them,

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and it was just farmland and woods surrounding this little

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neighborhood that she was in. And if you said you

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barber shop, and that was it. And you might cross

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the tracks and there was like an old school and

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where they were about to start building the neighborhood to

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the left, and we would walk all the way to

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the back of that and then cut over this like

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of explore the woods and stuff. And we were over

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the woods and I Unfortunately, I suffer from something called endometriosis,

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and it causes me to have really really intense pain

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flare ups at times. And it just so happened I

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this sort of pain. But you had alone, you know,

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I head out over there and I get over the

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bridge and I call my mom. And this was around

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the holidays, and she was, you know, like baking or

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getting stuff ready for Thanksgiving or Christmas or something, and

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she said, well, I'm in the middle of this, but

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just hang out there a little while and I'll come

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get you. And I was like, all right. So me

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and my dog were on this bridge and we're all

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the way on the far left side of the bridge,

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which is closest to that like country Stone Road, and

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on the right side of the bridge, it's got the

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pond to the right, and then to the left is

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some woods. And at this point, just that little bit

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of walking has got my pain just to absolute next level,

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like I can't breathe. I'm starting to, you know, starting

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feel like I'm gonna pass out, where your body goes

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super hot and cold all at the same time. And

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so I just sit down on the on the bridge,

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and I'm just sitting down there next to my dog,

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and I'm like, I'll just you know, sit here, try

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to breathe and let this pass and and wait for

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my mom to get there. And as I'm sitting there,

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I mean, and I had only just sat down, like

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this all happened so fast, So this thing had to

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have been watching me, because as like no sooner had

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I sat down, I see and hear movement coming from

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that woodline on the other side of the bridge. Now

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over here, it wasn't unusual for me to see deer

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or wild turkeys or something like that coming out and

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coming over there to that pond. So I thought, oh,

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you know, I'm gonna have some nice animal company while

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I'm waiting here.

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Speaker 4: But no, this, this big, gray, hunched over were wolf

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like creature steps out from those woods and walks up

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to the end of the bridge.

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Speaker 3: This thing was dark gray with almost like a blue

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cast to its fur, and it was kind of it

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was kind of like a cross between like one of

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the Underworld were wolves and remas Slooping from Harry Potter.

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It was very hunched over and muscular, but it wasn't

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like huge, like it wasn't like the van helsing were

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wolf like I've heard some people describe. This thing was

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about i'd say seven feet tall. It might have been taller,

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but it stayed very hunched over, like it was trying

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to appear smaller and less menacing. And I'm about six

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feet tall myself. So this thing it approaches the end

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of the bridge and it it just it squats down

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on all fours because it's walked out of that clearing

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on two legs and now it's squatting down at the

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end of the bridge. And it had like, you know,

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the backwards like looking legs, like like one of my

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dogs has. But when it sat down the front like

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it had basically hands with claws, So it wasn't like

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when my dogs, you know, just sitting there. It was

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like a man with dog feet and a dog head,

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just squatting there in front of me. And like I said,

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I'm about six feet tall, so this thing wasn't much

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taller than me once it was squatting down like that,

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so at the most it was probably seven feet tall

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or so. Well, the thing's looking at me. It's not

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showing me its teeth. It never once like truly tried

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to look menacing at me. But it was still scary

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because I'm sitting here thinking, oh my god, this is

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a werewolf, you know, and I'm already in pain and

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there's no way I can, you know, try to run

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from this thing. I'm as vulnerable as you possibly could

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be right now, and I'm just my blood has gone

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from running cold to just being completely solid ice in

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my veins. I don't know what to do. I'm freaking out.

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I'm trying. I'm not taking my eyes off of the creature,

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but I'm trying to avoid eye contact with it because

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i don't want it to feel threatened or like I'm

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challenging it or anything. But I also, you know, I

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don't want to look like I'm challenging it or anything.

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I don't want to get up and run and you know,

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make it think that it's a game, you know, come

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and get me. So I'm just still sitting there, just

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looking at it. And my dog, My dog, she was

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not afraid of anything to her. Every person, every animal

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was just a new playmate for her. She was never afraid,

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and she certainly was not an attack dog. But this

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thing scared her to death and she started cowering behind

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my back, and that just added to my fear because

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I've never seen this dog get scared, and I never

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saw her get scared again. And so I'm like, Okay, great.

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If she is scared, then I know we're in a pickle.

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This is awful, and so I'm just freaking out. And

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now this thing is scooting kind of scoot closer to me.

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It's very slow, it's still in all fours, and it's

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just kind of creeping closer to me and tilting its head.

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I can still see it now in my mind. It's terrifying,

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and it's just kind of tilting its head like a

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curious dog, like trying to figure me out. And as

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it's creeping closer to me, my dog starts freaking out

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even more, and it's just practically trying to crawl into

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my back right now, and it's just whimpering and whining,

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and that draws the dog man's attention even more, like

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it's now more curious about what my dog's doing, and

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it stands up on two legs again and starts moving

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across the bridge towards me. And all I could think

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of was that scene in the Silver Bullet when the

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kid's out on the bridge on fourth of July, and

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that where Wolf Priest is coming at. But so the

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dog Man's walking towards me, and at this point I

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just go into full panic. I'm crying, I'm yelling, and

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I'm going, please don't hurt me. I'm hurt. I have

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somebody coming to get me. I don't mean to be

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intruding on your territory. I'll I'll be gone in just

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a moment. Please don't hurt me. And I was like,

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if you do have to hurt one of us, please

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take me, let my baby go. And I'm just begging

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this thing for my life because I don't know what

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it's about to do. It's just coming closer and closer

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to me, and of course, you know, I'm sitting down

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on the ground, so this huge thing is over me

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and it's just as menacing as you could think. And

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finally it kind of stops. It doesn't make it all

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the way up over to me. It's just kind of

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like halfway across the bridge, and I all of a

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sudden just have this calmness wash over me and this

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feeling of everything's gonna be okay. The panic immediately leaves

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my body, and it's like I didn't hear like a

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foreign voice. It was just like this thing took over

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my inner monologue and started telling me, hush, hush, you're okay.

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Nobody means you any harm. You're gonna be all right.

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And it kind of backed away from me, and it

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was it was like something was asking me, like, are

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you hurt? Are you in trouble? Do you need help?

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That's all I'm looking for is to see if you

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need help. And so the thing has slowly backed away

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from me at this point, and I'm I kind of

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look at it and I'm I fay out loud. I'm like, oh,

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you're concerned about me. And I'm just shocked because to

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think that, you know, here's this big werewolf thing and

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it's trying to make me feel better. And I started explaining,

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I'm like, I'm I'm not injured, I'm sick, I have

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something wrong with me, but I'm okay, and there's somebody

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coming to get me, and I will be out of

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your territory in just a moment. And it just backed

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away from me, and it went back into the woods,

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not all the way into the woods, but just far

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enough into the treeline to where if somebody was to

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walk up on us, they wouldn't spot it without knowing

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where it was. And it just watched me, and I

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kept watching it. I didn't want to turn my back

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on it. But I slowly, and I mean as slowly

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as I could, stood up. I grabbed my dog by

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the leash, and I backed down my side of the

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bridge and got closer to the road. And I never

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took my eyes off of this dog man, and it

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never took its eyes off of me either. And I'm

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just standing there trembling, like because even though this thing

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seems to be letting me go and it's acting like it's,

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you know, concerned, I don't know if it's just trying

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to catch me, you know, in my guard down or whatever.

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I don't think this thing is my new best friend

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out here in the woods. And I'm just watching it

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while it watches me, and I'm just praying, like a mom,

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please get here as fast as you can. And in

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a few minutes the car pulls up. This thing is

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still watching me. I grab my dog, I throw it

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into the back of the car, and then I hopped

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in the car with my mom and while I'm still

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watching the woods, and it finally turns and leaves. Now,

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my mom and I we don't really have that good

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of a relationship. And as soon as I get in

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the car, she's just kind of scolding me and saying, like,

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why were you out there in the woods when you

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knew you could have had a pain flare up like this?

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And I'm like, Mom, I didn't know. It just caught

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me off guard, which it really did. And I'm crying

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and sobbing, but it's, you know, mostly because I just

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have this encounter, but she doesn't know that. She just

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thinks I'm in pain, which I still am, you know,

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in terrible pain. But I'm now freaking out about this

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thing I just saw. But I'm not going to tell

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her because even though she is sensitive to paranormal things

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like I am, she has never really believed in anything

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like this, and so I'm not about to try and

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explain what I saw to her. I had a cousin

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that lived in the mountains and had different encounters with things,

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and most of my family mocked him and made jokes

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about him, and my mom was one of those people.

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So I didn't open up to her. I just sat there,

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you know, in silence, just trying to process what I saw.

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And well, later that night, I'm now back home and

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I'm up in my bed and I'm just trying to

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drown out my thoughts. With a TV. And my dog's

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up there and she's now seems like she's gotten over experience.

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She's just calmed down on the bed, and I get

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this urge all of a sudden to go look out

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the window. I try to fight it because I'm like,

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this is weird, you know what if that thing's out there,

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and but I get up. I'm like, well, I'm up

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here on the second floor. This thing hopefully can't keep

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me inside my house up here. So I walk over

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to the window and across the road from my house

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is one of our neighbor's house that backs up into

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the woodline and just out of those woods and into

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the clearing right where like just enough for the moon

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and one of the street lights to kind of shine

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on it. As that dog man, and it's looking up

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at me in my room, and I'm looking down at it,

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and then that feeling takes over my mind again again.

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It's not like I'm hearing some foreign voice. It's just

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my inner dialogue, but it's like it's being controlled by

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something else. And it was like, hey, you're still all right.

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I just wanted to make sure that you're safe and

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you're okay, and I'm just kind of like, yeah, I'm

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fine by leave me alone, you know, because I just

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want this thing away from me. I don't want to

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have anything else to do with this thing. And it

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just kind of looks at me and then turns and

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goes back into those woods, and I never saw it again.

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It wasn't but about three or four months later I

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moved away from there. It wasn't because of that. I

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just happened to have a job already lined up here

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in Florida that I was waiting for the new year

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to come for me to start. But the last couple

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of months that I lived there, I never wandered down

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to the pond or into the woods ever again. And

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I've only been back to my mom's house maybe three

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or four times. Again, we're not very close, so I

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don't really have much of a reason to go back.

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And I do have a little brother, but if I

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want to see him, he usually comes here, because I mean,

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we're in Florida and have all the theme parks, so

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of course he'd rather come here than me go there.

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And now that place is so grown with so many

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businesses and restaurants and warehouses and tons of new neighborhoods,

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that there's really no longer that big wooded area or

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the farmland anymore. It's all, you know, taken over by

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your typical modern, modern world that we live in. So

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I don't even know where that dog man could live

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over there without being bothered by humans at this point. Yeah,

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that was the only time I saw it was that

475
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:54,680
day on the bridge and then later that night. And

476
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:59,160
that's the only encounter I've ever had with a dog man,

477
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,599
and I hope I I never have one ever again.

478
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,400
And that's that's pretty much it.

479
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: Well, that makes two of us. Yeah, I can never

480
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,759
have another encounter again. Also, you're getting pretty worked up

481
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:17,240
there talking about those experiences. Let's shift gears a little bit.

482
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:19,319
We can get back into the whole dogma thing and

483
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,200
just a bit, but let's kind of shift gears here

484
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,359
to help calm you down. Are you ready for the

485
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,559
holidays or do you still have to do all of

486
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:28,200
your shopping?

487
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: I still have to do shopping, but I'm definitely ready

488
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,480
for the holidays. Christmas is my absolute favorite time of year.

489
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,400
I've been saying I just want to go ahead and

490
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,319
put the tree up now, but I usually do that

491
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,279
at midnight on Halloween.

492
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: Really midnight on Halloween.

493
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so as soon as late the trigger treaters are gone,

494
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,880
I take down all the Halloween stuff inside, and I

495
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,440
put up all the Christmas stuff, and then the next

496
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,599
day I down the outside stuff and then put up

497
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:06,200
my Christmas stuff. My neighborhood's always like, you know, it's

498
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:09,480
Christmas time when Nichole starts putting out her stuff and

499
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,759
then they all follow suit.

500
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Wow, you're really into it. Then I see you're even

501
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,880
crazier about Christmas than I am.

502
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: I love Christmas. I'm definitely a Christmas girl. Buy Christmas

503
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000
things all year round. I wear a lot of Christmas

504
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:28,759
clothes year round. I love it.

505
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,559
Speaker 2: Have you got my present yet? Though?

506
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:32,279
Speaker 4: Uh?

507
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna get you a DVD of the classic

508
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,359
wolf Man.

509
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be a good present. That'd be okay, that's funny.

510
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,359
Are you sure you're ready to talk about these encounters,

511
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,680
because if you want to unwind a little longer, we

512
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,759
can definitely do that.

513
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,559
Speaker 3: No, I'm okay. I think I got more nervous just

514
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,839
knowing that there is an audience. I've always been a

515
00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:01,880
bit a bit shy and introverted, so and being really

516
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,759
brave to come on here and talk about this, but

517
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:06,839
I really, I really wanted to.

518
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:12,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, very brave. It's not an easy group of experiences

519
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:14,480
to talk about, number one, but yeah, I mean most

520
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,319
people weren't comfortable to talk to audiences, so it's like

521
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:21,559
a double whammy. I get it. I feel so bad

522
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,319
for you, the Nicole. It sounds like you went a

523
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,599
long time after having these experiences before you could confide

524
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,240
in anyone. How long was it.

525
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean I tried, you know, like a couple of friends,

526
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,000
and they would just kind of laugh it off and

527
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:42,000
think I was joking. And I mean that was within

528
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:46,160
you know, the first few months of it happening, and

529
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,759
nobody really took it seriously. Like I had said, the

530
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:53,799
only person that I knew of that had ever experienced

531
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,079
I don't know if he'd ever experienced a dog man

532
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,039
per se, but I knew he had encountered other things

533
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:03,319
was my cousin, who was half Native American and his

534
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,799
mother was Native American, and she had brought him up,

535
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,759
you know, teaching him about all the things out in

536
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,680
the woods, and they lived in an area where he

537
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,920
he claimed he saw things and he would try to

538
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,839
talk about it, and my family ridiculed him, and I

539
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,119
always listened to him, but he had actually passed away

540
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,920
from cancer. Unfortunately by the time I had my own experience,

541
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,200
so I didn't have anybody else I could talk to.

542
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,480
And ironically, he had a pet wolf, like an actual

543
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,480
one hundred percent wolf that he had raised and rescued

544
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,240
as a pub so then he would have been like

545
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:44,720
the perfect person to talk to about this sort of thing.

546
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would have been shame and your family for

547
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,920
ridiculing him though. That's horrible. Yeah, m h yeah, that

548
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,839
really is. But from what you've told me, I guess

549
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:58,480
that's kind of what I should expect. I mean, it

550
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,559
sounds like it does tend to run family.

551
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it does.

552
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,599
Speaker 2: Were you more hung up on trying to figure out

553
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,159
how in the world this thing was able to use

554
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,719
your inner dialogue to communicate with you, or were you

555
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,000
more just struck from the fact that, Okay, I just

556
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,400
saw something. It looks like a dead ringer for a

557
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:17,960
wear wolve.

558
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: I mean it was both. I was absolutely floored to

559
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,360
see such a thing because, I mean, you see them

560
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,840
on movies all the time, and I liked, you know,

561
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,559
horror movies growing up. I still do, And but I

562
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,920
just never expected to see, you know, something from the

563
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,639
screen right in front of me. But whenever I tried

564
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:43,039
to do research, like I said, I would you know,

565
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:45,480
look up wear wolves and stuff, and I would look

566
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:50,840
up like hearing like the voices from like a cryptid

567
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,519
or something like I was, you know, looking up all

568
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:56,360
different things. And one thing I had learned over the

569
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,440
years long before just I just learned about, you know,

570
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,119
what a dog man was a couple of months ago,

571
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,199
but I had learned about the kind of feeling I

572
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,679
had when it was doing the mind speak because I

573
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,159
read and heard several people who had had encounters with vampires,

574
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,360
usually in Louisiana, and they had very similar experiences to

575
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,280
what I had with this dog man, with it basically

576
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,679
like just taking over my inner monologue, controlling my feelings

577
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,599
and whatnot. And so that was helpful. So I at

578
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:35,840
least had that to go on for a few years,

579
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,280
but it was very few and far between on what

580
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,039
I could find on you know, like werewolves and stuff.

581
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,000
And it wasn't until I stumbled across that one video

582
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,079
on TikTok and saw on the comments people were saying, oh,

583
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:51,000
that's a dog man and you should talk to Vic

584
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:54,199
about dog man encounters, and I was like, wait, do

585
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,480
I have a new lead. Let me check this out.

586
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:59,440
And then for the past couple of months I have

587
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,960
been listening and going down a rabbit hole and doing

588
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,559
more research, and I was like, Okay, I think it's

589
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:11,400
time I can finally call somebody and find a community

590
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,920
that will understand me and not ridicule me.

591
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: Well, it goes with that saying I'm so glad you

592
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,480
found out about me and what I do and found

593
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:21,920
out about this show. You're going to get nothing but

594
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:24,119
support here. No one's going to make fun of you.

595
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,480
So of course I'm so glad you've got access to that.

596
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:32,159
As far as how an experience like that would affect you,

597
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,519
of course, yeah, two encounters, but the first encounter was

598
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,519
more of an encounter than the second one because you're

599
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:41,840
removed and you're looking down from your bedroom and whatnot.

600
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,119
But can you think of any long lasting effects that

601
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,920
you are dealing with today, whether negative or positive, that

602
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:54,480
you can point to the first encounter directly at that

603
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:58,880
first encounter as being responsible for these effects that you're experiencing.

604
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,119
Speaker 3: I sometimes, especially if I'm out like walking the dogs,

605
00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:06,920
like in the evening, it's it's Florida, so it's hot here,

606
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,039
so it's more comfortable to go out in the evening.

607
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,840
And sometimes I'll be by the woodline and I'll hear

608
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,280
a snapper crackle coming from the trees and suddenly I'm

609
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:23,199
back there. And sometimes I told you about this the

610
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,599
other day. My oldest dog, Tiger, he'll there's times where

611
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,679
he'll look at me and it's just like looking at

612
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,519
that dog man's face again, just something about how he'll

613
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,719
turn his head a certain way and his eyes will

614
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,199
look a certain way and and it just like makes

615
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,480
my blood run cold for a moment, and I'll then

616
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:47,440
have to like go pat him and be like, don't

617
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,960
look at me like that. I love you, but you're

618
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,280
scaring me right now.

619
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:54,639
Speaker 2: Well, like I told you in the first conversation, that's

620
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,440
not just you. Yeah, a lot of eyewitnesses report that

621
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,719
they'll look at their dogs, and their dogs have a

622
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,800
certain an expression, especially the ones that look like shepherds.

623
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,920
They'll move a certain way and it just freaks out

624
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,559
the eyewitnesses and understandably so, I mean, some dogs can

625
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,519
look pretty similar to dog men down on all fours

626
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:14,360
at times.

627
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they can.

628
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,559
Speaker 2: You talked about being next to the woodline, were you

629
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,960
alone at the time. Does that mean that, even though

630
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,119
you've had these experiences, you're able to go near the

631
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:29,360
woods or into the woods by yourself. Now?

632
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I still go. I always have one

633
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,360
of the dogs with me, usually my ridge back, because

634
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,239
our senior dog, Tiger, he's thirteen years old. He can't

635
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,159
really hang out as long as as me and our

636
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,199
younger dog can. Now he's having a harder time moving around,

637
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,719
but the little one has lots of energy, so he's

638
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,239
my walking buddy. We've ran racist together and stuff, and

639
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,760
we wander around the woods and the swamp land over

640
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,519
here sometimes.

641
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: Wow, that's great, that's really good. When you've been doing

642
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,199
those things in the woods. Has there ever been a

643
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,199
time where you thought, Okay, I think we've got a

644
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,239
dog men nearby?

645
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 3: There was I never saw anything else again, but I

646
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,039
don't think I even mentioned it to you or in

647
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:24,880
the story. But the smell. There was one time where

648
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,519
I smelled the smell that I smelled on that bridge

649
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:33,079
that day, and I was like, whoa that? And I

650
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:34,559
didn't know what a dog man was, but I was like,

651
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,480
that smells like a were wolf. And I I telled

652
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:39,519
at home immediately.

653
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand, why better do you use caution

654
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,639
than to risk having another encounter that doesn't need to

655
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:52,039
happen normally, I can get a pretty good beat on this,

656
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,159
But with how you've laid it out there, I'm still unsure.

657
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,519
It's obviously your husband doesn't believe you when you talk

658
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:02,519
about having these encounters. Has that strained your relationship with

659
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:07,440
him in any way?

660
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:11,039
Speaker 3: Not really, because I just I don't feel the need

661
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:15,280
to have to bring it up that much. The only

662
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,480
time when we ever, like really argue about anything is when,

663
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,039
like I said, there's we've definitely had paranormal things happen here.

664
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,400
I inherited stuff from my grandparents house that was the

665
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,920
haunted house I grew up in, and there's definitely things

666
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,920
attached to some of those items, and ever since we

667
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,599
brought those into our house, things started happening. And I

668
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:41,119
know that he's experienced these things because he's even talked

669
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:43,960
to me about them. But then I'm like, oh see,

670
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:48,159
you see like it happens, and He's like he was

671
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,840
it was just a shadow, the lighting was weird, maybe

672
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:55,280
like if something moves. He's like, maybe I just put it,

673
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,159
you know, too close to the edge of the counter.

674
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,679
Like he it's like he's scared and he just needs

675
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,079
to put any kind of excuse in front of it

676
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:06,840
rather than say that it's something paranormal.

677
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,519
Speaker 2: Well, of course he does. And the funny part about that, Nicole,

678
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:13,880
is that, right there is a kind of eyewitness who

679
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,360
always has the most trouble coming to terms with their experiences.

680
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,239
When you've got a person like that contacted me, I

681
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,039
know I've got my work cut out for me, because yeah,

682
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,239
I mean a lot of cases, it makes their life

683
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,079
just fall apart. It really does.

684
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: Like I said, you know, like I've never seen anything

685
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,639
else as far as a dog man, but I did

686
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,719
have that similar smell the one time. That was in

687
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,519
the like the swamp area around our house, because our

688
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:42,679
house now it goes right up to the woods, like

689
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,679
our garage is right there. Like I step out of

690
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:47,599
the garage and right into the woods and head into

691
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,599
the swamp area. So I'm always like, I hope there

692
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:54,159
was there wasn't a dog man out there, And if

693
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:56,239
there is, I hope he doesn't ever come over here

694
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,000
because my husband is going to be like, oh, that's

695
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:01,320
just a big animal, let me go out there and

696
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,039
challenge it. And I don't want him to go out there,

697
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:06,280
and that's with something like that. And I know he

698
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,480
would because he'd be like, oh, let me just prove

699
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,800
to you it's just a big animal, you know. Let

700
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,119
me grab grab a weapon and go out there. And

701
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,519
I just would hate for him to do that because

702
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:17,280
it would not end.

703
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: Well, no, it sure wouldn't. Ye, it's good you know that.

704
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,280
If your house is right there up against the woods

705
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,639
like that, can you still go out at night to

706
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:30,599
take the trash out or check the mail, get into

707
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,559
the car truck or do you try to be a

708
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,000
shut away after dark?

709
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: I still go out there, but it's always very nerve wracking,

710
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:44,760
especially when I have to go out there and get

711
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,159
the trash can, like from behind the garage. It's just

712
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,039
very nerve wracking. There's some nights where it gets almost

713
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:57,000
too quiet, and I do, like I look around and

714
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:01,079
I'm like, this, something ain't right. It's just too quiet

715
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,440
around here. And you know that's when they say there's

716
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,159
different things and not necessarily dog man, but something's around.

717
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, listen to your instincts. I always recommend that

718
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,440
people do that.

719
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: I just do what I have to do and then

720
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,719
get back in the house.

721
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah all, bet, and I understand. Well, like I said,

722
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,599
if your house is that close to the woods, right

723
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:27,679
upon it sounds like after dark, are you ocd about

724
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,480
making sure every last door and window was locked?

725
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I but I have always been like that, just

726
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:42,599
as a child for some reason, like my grandparents would

727
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,719
always have all the windows open because we didn't have

728
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,159
ac for the longest time growing up. So like my

729
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:51,159
my grandparents would have all the windows and doors open

730
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,239
throughout the day and then they would close them at night.

731
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:57,039
And I've always been a night owl, so I would

732
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:59,679
usually stay up by myself when I was a kid,

733
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,639
and I didn't like it if they didn't shut like

734
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:04,960
a window all the way or something. I always had

735
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,159
this just feeling like something was watching me. And so

736
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,400
ever since I was a kid, that's been like a

737
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,599
nightly routine for me to make sure there isn't even

738
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,679
like a crack coming through a blind or a curtain

739
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,320
and everything needs to be locked.

740
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, once bitten twice shy, I can understand why, and

741
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:25,960
especially if your houses that close to the woods. I mean,

742
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,719
you deserve a lot of credit to be able to

743
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:34,400
even live there, so I'm impressed most eyewitnesses wouldn't be

744
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,400
able to do that. Well, let's transition over to asking

745
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:42,679
the questions from the listeners in the live chat. But

746
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,159
before we do that, I want to put something out there.

747
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,360
We've got donations that came in from both Tiffany and

748
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,679
Long Island Bigfoot. I want to thank both of you

749
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,760
so much for your support. But to everyone listening, it's

750
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,480
awfully nice of you to send these donations, but please

751
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:02,920
don't even worry about sending donations monetary donations. If you

752
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:06,000
have a mind to do that, then instead of doing that,

753
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:08,920
please just focus your support that much more on the

754
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,599
eyewitnesses you hear it coming on the show. Please remember

755
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,400
that it's not that I don't appreciate the donations, it's

756
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:18,719
just I mean, I think it would be better served

757
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,480
if you just focused even more effort on supporting the guests.

758
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:26,280
So I just wanted to put that out there for everyone. Well,

759
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,559
like I said, I definitely appreciate the donations, but you

760
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:33,079
definitely don't need to do that. Just by supporting the eyewitnesses,

761
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:36,480
you do more than I could ever ask for. Well,

762
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:40,159
let's move on to the first question from the a

763
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,760
guest in the live chat. This is going to be

764
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,440
from Sheen and Uminaser, and Sheannon wants to know could

765
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,559
you tell if it was a male or a female.

766
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 3: I assume it was a male. It I don't know why.

767
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,960
It just didn't look feminine to me. I you know,

768
00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:05,719
at the time, I didn't have anything to go off

769
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:11,039
of what would be what It's fur was very thick,

770
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,800
so there wasn't like I could see much like that

771
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,760
sort of anatomy. But from what I have gathered the

772
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,960
last couple of months of hearing people that usually the

773
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,840
female ones are a bit more curvy looking, and this

774
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:30,840
was more like a It was muscular and and wasn't

775
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,159
like curvy or anything like that. It wasn't big. I

776
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,039
mean it was like seven feet, so it's still big,

777
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:40,920
but it wasn't like huge body builder. But it felt

778
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,000
like a male to me. But I could be wrong,

779
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:49,079
but I had nothing to say that it would be female.

780
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: Well, from a distance, it can be pretty difficult to

781
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,320
tell for sure, but you never know. More than likely

782
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,880
listening to how it responded to you and everything, there's

783
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,000
a good possibility it was a female. But we're never

784
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:04,199
gonna know. All we can do is guess on that

785
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,800
ban Bang wants to know. And Nicole, did it smile

786
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,719
at you?

787
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 3: No, it didn't. I mean I could see like its

788
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,880
biggest things like sticking out of the front of its snout,

789
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,679
but it never like growled or menaced or even you know,

790
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,360
tried to make a friendly smile. It really felt like

791
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:31,800
it was trying to be the least amount of intimidating

792
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,599
as possible, which it stayed. It stayed, you know, kind

793
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:40,280
of squatted down, and then when I panicked and it

794
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,960
was standing up, it backed away and squatted back down

795
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:47,639
like it really tried to. It seemed almost like respectful

796
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,000
and trying to keep me from being afraid again. Like

797
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,719
I said, I don't think it was my new best buddy.

798
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,280
I don't know if it was just trying to lure

799
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,519
me into a sense of safety and hope that, you know,

800
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:01,719
next time it could get me. I don't know that.

801
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,000
I mean, it could have had me right then and

802
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:07,800
there if it had wanted to. But yeah, it didn't

803
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,840
like ever really show its full teeth to me or anything.

804
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,239
I just could see it's big, the biggest thing sticking

805
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,320
out of the front of its mouth.

806
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:19,079
Speaker 2: It might have been trying to set you up for

807
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:22,639
a fall down the road. But if you think about it,

808
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:24,639
it had you dead to rights right there. If it

809
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:26,679
wanted to get you, why not just do it then

810
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,320
and there. I mean, it's possible. I'm never going to

811
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,039
say it's not, but it just wouldn't make sense in

812
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:35,360
my opinion for that reason.

813
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:38,639
Speaker 3: No, Because I mean I was as vulnerable as you

814
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:41,239
could get. I was, you know, sitting on the ground

815
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,840
out there in the middle of the woods. I was

816
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,039
an intense pain. If it had wanted me right then

817
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:47,199
and there, it could have had me.

818
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:51,119
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, please never lose sight of that fact.

819
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,079
The next one on deck is from Michigan medi Eater,

820
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:56,880
and he wants to know, did you notice anything else

821
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,880
forrest sounds, gone, smell, et cetera.

822
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, I forgot to mention the smell

823
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,320
that it did. It did stinc It smelled like almost

824
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,599
like a skunky smell mixed with like feces and ammonia.

825
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,639
As far as the sound. When I'm in that sort

826
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:18,800
of pain and I'm already like in that like almost

827
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,000
blacking out state, my ears kind of go into like

828
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,639
a buzzing noess like, you know, like when you're about

829
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:27,639
to faint, your ears just kind of clog out and

830
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,400
kind of have that buzzing feeling to them. My I

831
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:34,119
was like that at the time from my pain, So

832
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,679
I honestly wouldn't have known if anything had changed as

833
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:40,119
far as sound around me or not.

834
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, it's so much going on in your mind.

835
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,039
You're doing good to know your own name, So yeah,

836
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:48,960
I think you deserve a lot of credit for that.

837
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,719
It looks like Michigan Med Theater has the next one

838
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,880
up to you. He wants to know. Did you notice

839
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,920
any type of expression on its face.

840
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: It looked like it just like a curious dog. Like

841
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,760
it looked like how my dogs do when they hear

842
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,119
like a new sound or see something for the first time,

843
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:10,679
where they're like they almost have me like their their

844
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:13,320
little eyebrows kind of go up and cock their head

845
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,480
to the side. It was if it wasn't so scary looking,

846
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:21,239
it would have almost been like a cute face, honestly,

847
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,440
because how it was looking at me. But I was

848
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,039
obviously scared and intimidated by it. But it was just

849
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,960
kind of kept looking me over like it was trying

850
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,960
to figure me out. And I think that's exactly what

851
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:36,320
it was doing, because when it took over, it took

852
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,039
over my mind. I felt like something was saying like

853
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,039
are you all right? Are you are you hurt? Do

854
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:44,599
you need help? Like it was It's like it was

855
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:47,320
trying to figure out, like why is this human just

856
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,079
sitting here on a bridge like this?

857
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: You know, if it did understand definitively that you did

858
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,960
need help, I wonder what would have done. It's not

859
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,400
like it could have cured into the hospital or anything.

860
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: I have. That's the thing I have thought about the

861
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,000
most over the years for this encounter, and I just wonder,

862
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,079
like what if I had said, yes, I do need help,

863
00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:10,920
like with this thing had tried to pick me up,

864
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,719
and as we know, we've later found out anew where

865
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,719
I lived. Would it had like taken me and like

866
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,039
dumped me in my backyard or something like?

867
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't have been good at all.

868
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,079
Speaker 3: No, even if I had needed help, I'd be like, no, no,

869
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:25,760
I'm good.

870
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd say so understandably so too. The next

871
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,760
one up is from Keith from sixteen seventy five. His

872
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,320
question is what color werethy eyes? If you could see

873
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:41,280
you're doing fine. Took me thirty years before I spoke

874
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:41,679
to Vic.

875
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: Thank you both, well, thank you. The eyes I forgotten

876
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,199
to mention I did tell Vic about was my first

877
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,039
book to him. I'm a big I'm a whiskey girl.

878
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,199
And those eyes were like sunlight going through a glass

879
00:51:54,199 --> 00:52:00,159
of whiskey. It was like that bright orange brown amber color,

880
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,400
you know. And like I said, it was like sunlight

881
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,760
going through a glass that kind of had that backlit effect,

882
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,559
not like you know, full of blown, like a fake light,

883
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:13,639
but just kind of like a subtle glow from within.

884
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,719
They were very intense, and I tried to avoid looking

885
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,039
at the eyes at first because I didn't want to

886
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:24,639
show it any disrespect for or anything. It wasn't until

887
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,800
it started kind of taking over my mind and I

888
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,920
felt more calm that I finally looked up into its eyes.

889
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,280
When I asked it, I was like, oh, you're concerned

890
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:33,760
about me?

891
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely not what you would expect when you have

892
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,239
a dog ma an the counter, But I'll take that

893
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,599
any day over the common ones. Yeah, yeah, those normal

894
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:48,519
are very good. The next question would be from legal

895
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:54,000
gun smoke and they want to know hmm, having a

896
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:59,199
hard time understanding this one. I guess they're asking once

897
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,440
the feeling came over, you did it kind of calm

898
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,039
your nerves?

899
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:04,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

900
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 4: It did.

901
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,519
Speaker 3: It was like the best way I could described it

902
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,960
was like my blood had had run cold as this

903
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:16,400
thing was coming towards me, and as soon as like

904
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,159
it took over my thoughts, it was like a warm

905
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,440
blanket was draped over me, and I just felt like

906
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,280
everything was gonna be okay. When it stepped away from

907
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,840
me and back into the woods was when the the

908
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,519
like the unsettled feeling crept back in. But I still

909
00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:39,239
felt less panicky than I had.

910
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, Thank goodness. Anything that you can point to and

911
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:50,840
say was a positive, We'll definitely take that anytime. She

912
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,039
and and Umanezer wants to know. Was hanging its head

913
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:57,599
down like a dog's, like dogs do when they were

914
00:53:57,639 --> 00:53:59,079
approaching someone scared.

915
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of like like I said he was, he

916
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,480
was sort of hunched over. I don't think he ever

917
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:10,719
even when standing up on his two leg on two legs,

918
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:13,920
I don't feel like he ever completely stood up straight.

919
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,239
He was hunched over and had his head down. It

920
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,880
was it was like I said he was, like it

921
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,159
felt like he was trying to look smaller and less menacing.

922
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:26,679
Speaker 2: To me, sounds like that Doledomy was trying to cater

923
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,840
to you, like you said, to make it so that

924
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,400
you weren't any more afraid than necessary. Thank goodness for that.

925
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,119
Like I said, it could be a lot worse. He

926
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:36,320
can have one that wants to frighten the dickens out

927
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,480
of you.

928
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:37,599
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

929
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: You know, we'll take this kind any day. And Conzell

930
00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:43,760
wants to know if you see him again, would you

931
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,119
consider asking him his name? Or is that too dangerous

932
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:48,159
to be so familiar.

933
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,079
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think I would ever see him again, because,

934
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,920
like I said, this took place where my mom still

935
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:03,800
I am not close with my mom. I don't really

936
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,000
have much of a reason to go there. I've only

937
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:09,679
been back, like I said, maybe three or four times.

938
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,559
And I now live in Florida, and everything has changed

939
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,920
so much over there. It's no longer just woods and farmland.

940
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:24,679
It's now tons of neighborhoods and businesses and restaurants, and

941
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:29,159
it's it's not the same place it was those fourteen

942
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,480
years ago. So I highly doubt I would ever see him.

943
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:37,239
But even the couple times that I have been back

944
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,760
there at my mom's house. I've never gone back down

945
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,519
to that area or anything. I just stayed close to

946
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:49,119
the house, even like when I was like taking the

947
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,159
dog out or something. While I was there, I didn't

948
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:55,159
go further than like the next cul de sac over

949
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,320
in the center of the neighborhood. Like, I never left

950
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,519
concrete and buildings. Guy stayed well way away, well away

951
00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:06,719
from any of the what would have what was left

952
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,519
of the wooded area, not that there was much left anymore.

953
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's a really good idea. I'm glad you didn't

954
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,039
go back. Yeah, I definitely have got too much weight

955
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:20,000
on the young back, So thank goodness, bravo. Johnny wants

956
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,760
to know if any orbs were cited, wouldn't you have

957
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,440
that encounter?

958
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:31,559
Speaker 3: No, not that I noticed. I mean i've seen orbs before,

959
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,559
you know, Like I said, I've had my fair share

960
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,480
of other you know, supernatural things like as far as

961
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,639
ghosts and things. But no, I didn't notice any orbs

962
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,840
when I was faced with this dog man that day.

963
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: The reason why he's asking is it's not isolated for

964
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:52,159
a dog man eyewitness or a sasquatch eye witness to

965
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:55,880
report seeing orbs. Right before or after their encounter. So

966
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,960
I think that's what's behind that question.

967
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:03,039
Speaker 3: Gotcha. No, And then, like I said, I I was

968
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:04,840
in so much pain and thought I was I was

969
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,239
trying not to pass out anyway that there might have

970
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,760
been things that I was missing before this thing came out.

971
00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:13,519
Like I felt like I was about to go down,

972
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:16,440
and that's why I sat down and was trying to

973
00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:19,679
like get myself together, and then that was when this

974
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:21,840
thing stepped out.

975
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just trying to hold it together as understandable.

976
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,760
Dress Carrizals. Carozales wants to know. You said that your

977
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,400
mother believes in the non physical part of paranormal like ghosts,

978
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:40,239
but dismisses the physical part like Bigfoot. Did you think

979
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:42,239
he wants to know? Did you ask her why she

980
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,280
does that? No?

981
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: I didn't. It's hard, like it's hard to talk to

982
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,280
my mom about anything. She just she thinks she's right

983
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,800
about everything and anything. And so I sure as peck

984
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,199
wasn't about to let her know that I saw this

985
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,000
and that have her, you know, questioning this. It just

986
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,760
I've had enough arguments with her about many many a

987
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,079
thing in my lifetime, so it just it wasn't worth

988
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:20,000
it to bring up something like this whether Yeah.

989
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: I don't blame you. I'm sure it wouldn't have been

990
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,159
well received, so not at all. Yeah, like I said,

991
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:27,599
who blames you? Who could blame you for not doing that?

992
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,320
Julie A. Thurston wants to know, Nicole, you have all

993
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,039
the support in the world right here. Thank you for

994
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:38,400
breaking out of your comfort zone and sharing your experience

995
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,519
with this. I guess it's more of a comment than

996
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:43,400
a question, but that's awfully nice of you, Julie.

997
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,119
Speaker 3: Pressure than thank you, Julie, I really do appreciate that.

998
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,800
I've been, you know, walking around for years with this

999
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,840
and nobody's ever taken me seriously. And you know, it's

1000
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,440
been to the point where I questioned it and thought,

1001
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:02,800
you know, maybe it was just the pain, maybe when

1002
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,360
I was about to pass out, maybe I started hallucinating

1003
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,360
or something, you know, but I did see it. I

1004
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,800
saw what I saw, and then it only you know,

1005
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,920
further confirmed it. You know, by the time you know,

1006
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:16,599
I got home, I had medicine, I was doing better,

1007
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,679
and saw it yet again at night. So whenever I

1008
00:59:19,719 --> 00:59:22,840
start to doubt myself, I'm like, well, you saw it again,

1009
00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:25,280
so that's your confirmation right there.

1010
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,199
Speaker 2: That's right. I'm glad you do that. Yeah, you're right.

1011
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:32,000
You definitely saw it, and that's all there is to it.

1012
00:59:33,519 --> 00:59:36,800
Audisia Samber wants to know where its ears on the

1013
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,000
top of its head or on the sides of its head. Also,

1014
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:42,000
she wants to know do you think it was a

1015
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:45,480
dog man or a werewolf? Of course, a werewolf being

1016
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,679
a person who had sheep shifted into that form.

1017
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,199
Speaker 3: Its ears were on the top of its head. They

1018
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:55,719
were very long and pointy, like like a crop like

1019
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:02,119
Doberman ear. I mean, I assumed now learning about dog man,

1020
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,239
I think it was a dog man. At the time,

1021
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,800
I thought it was a were wolf because that was

1022
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,760
the only thing I knew, you know, to go off of.

1023
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,320
There was nothing else I had ever come across other

1024
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,639
than movie were wolf, so that was what I thought.

1025
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:23,760
But also at the same time, I didn't really think

1026
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,960
that there were people transforming into wolves, you know. I

1027
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:32,199
just thought that's just what you called this wolf like creature,

1028
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,639
was a werewolf, you know. But no, I think now

1029
01:00:35,719 --> 01:00:37,760
that I've learned about them, I think it was a

1030
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:38,239
dog man.

1031
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:42,719
Speaker 2: That was a good way to answer it. It looks

1032
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:45,800
like Gamber has another question. She wants to know, was

1033
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,440
the dialogue in your head male female or your voice?

1034
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:53,239
I think you already clarified that it wasn't an actual

1035
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,400
voice that you heard in your head talking to you.

1036
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,679
It was your inner monologue that was taken over exactly.

1037
01:00:59,760 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1038
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: I didn't hear like a specific, like foreign voice. It

1039
01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:07,960
was just it was like something controlled my thoughts and also,

1040
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,320
you know, it seemed to control my emotions because it

1041
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,280
made me feel calmer as it was doing this, and

1042
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,599
it just kind of took over that inner monologue. So

1043
01:01:18,639 --> 01:01:22,039
it was just like any normal thought running through my head,

1044
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:25,480
except this time it was like this thing's way of

1045
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:26,519
communicating with me.

1046
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot to wrap your mind around. Daniel

1047
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,360
Williams wants to know what do you do to stay

1048
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,960
so grounded all the time.

1049
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 3: I don't think I understand.

1050
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: Well, it seems like you're really staying level headed when

1051
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,400
you think about your encounters, and that's why you're able

1052
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,440
to deal so well with them. Of Course, you have

1053
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,679
some hang ups, but that's to be expected when you

1054
01:01:53,679 --> 01:01:56,239
have an encounter like the ones you had, and it's

1055
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,400
proven to you with your own two eyes that things

1056
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,400
like this exist but all in all a big picture,

1057
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,280
you're dealing very well with those encounters, you really are,

1058
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,480
and I think he just wants to know how you're

1059
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:08,440
able to deal with them.

1060
01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: So well, Oh thank you. Like I said, I grew

1061
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,079
up in a haunted house and that made me much

1062
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:22,880
more open minded to just the unknown and things in general.

1063
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,159
I had some very scary experiences in my own house

1064
01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:37,480
growing up, absolutely terrifying. I only spent one night completely

1065
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:40,039
by myself in that house, and I would never do

1066
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:43,760
it again. To this day, I have nightmares about that house.

1067
01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:47,800
But I've only had maybe one or two nightmares about

1068
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,159
my dog man experience. Honestly. Now, like I said, you know,

1069
01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:56,519
I'll go out into the woods, or my dog might

1070
01:02:56,559 --> 01:03:00,880
make a certain expression, or even today, I was walking

1071
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:02,920
out of the kitchen into the living room and there

1072
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,840
was a movie trailer on for a new werewolf movie

1073
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,239
that's coming out, and I saw that werewolf and I

1074
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,519
was like, whoa that that looks like the dog man

1075
01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:14,360
I saw. I was like, man, that's that person must

1076
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,360
have actually seen one, because that's crazy, and that sent

1077
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:23,039
chills up my spine. But yeah, I've had some pretty

1078
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:29,760
scary experiences from from a child, like from a baby, honestly,

1079
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:35,119
So this was just a new, terrifying thing, and with

1080
01:03:35,239 --> 01:03:38,719
how it acted, it was less scary than some of

1081
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,079
the things I've had happen. It was just new and

1082
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:46,519
unusual and unexpected because I didn't know such a thing existed.

1083
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:48,239
So that was just the only difference.

1084
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,519
Speaker 2: Really, Well, I can only imagine what you must have

1085
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:55,960
experienced in that house. That's awfully intense. It's one thing

1086
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,199
to go out and have experiences like this, but when

1087
01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:04,440
you're having these frightening experiences, terrifying experiences and encounters in

1088
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,639
your own home, that is horrible. Don't know how you

1089
01:04:07,679 --> 01:04:08,039
do it.

1090
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, I still have nightmares, and I'm

1091
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:14,760
talking like every other night. I have nightmares, and I

1092
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,920
have full blown night terrors. I wake up screaming. Sometimes

1093
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:22,800
I have sleep paralysis. I'll wake up and see things,

1094
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,559
and that scares my husband more than anything with some

1095
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:28,599
of my reactions in the middle of the night.

1096
01:04:29,679 --> 01:04:32,079
Speaker 2: Oh bet, Yeah, you're sleeping next to someone and they

1097
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:35,119
wake up screaming. Yes, it's not a good way to

1098
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:40,119
wake up. Yeah, huh, that freaking anyone out? It looks

1099
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:43,760
like Cody laughing wolf, Hey, Cody he's got the next question,

1100
01:04:44,519 --> 01:04:47,280
or I guess it's a comment. He's saying, your sounds

1101
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,639
almost exactly like Sasha, that's a female dog woman that

1102
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,800
he came on the show twice and talked about his

1103
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,760
encounters with. He wants to know. Do you think they're

1104
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,239
the same type. It's good to be wary.

1105
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 3: I've at actually listen to Cody's stories, and from the

1106
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,119
sound of it, they do sound very similar.

1107
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, they just might be a mean yours

1108
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,840
just might have been a female. I wouldn't be surprised.

1109
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:17,679
All we can do is guess, of course, but you know,

1110
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,800
like I said, it wouldn't be surprised in the least.

1111
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,800
This next question is from the light seeker. He wants

1112
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,760
to know or she wants to know. Was there a

1113
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,960
full moon out that night?

1114
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,159
Speaker 3: I don't remember. The first encounter I had was like

1115
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:40,000
late afternoon, early evening, and then that night, you know,

1116
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:45,360
when I saw it, I didn't take note. I can't remember. Honestly,

1117
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,039
I should, honestly probably look at a calendar from around

1118
01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:52,239
that time period and see if I can pinpoint when

1119
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:54,239
it was and if there was one that night.

1120
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, please don't feel bad about not remembering because, like

1121
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,159
I said, you had so much on your mind at

1122
01:06:00,199 --> 01:06:02,199
the time, no one can fault you for not paying

1123
01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:06,119
attention to what the moon's like. Wh So I get it,

1124
01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:10,079
I do, And the tig chick wants to know. I'm

1125
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:12,760
looking at your weld here, tig chicken looks like it

1126
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,920
needs a little more heat. Well, anyway, Tigchick wants to know.

1127
01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:20,760
Thank you, Nicole for sharing. Did your dog's behavior change

1128
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,679
after that encounter? More protective with you or more needy

1129
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:25,000
with you?

1130
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: She didn't really get more protect as I'd say, like

1131
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,719
she just wasn't the type of dog to challenge anything.

1132
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:41,760
She was just a complete sweetheart. She was still very

1133
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:48,960
friendly to everybody, though ironically she got a bit more adventurous,

1134
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,440
which was odd because she was so afraid that day.

1135
01:06:53,159 --> 01:06:57,199
But there got to the point where, like if you

1136
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,400
opened the door and you weren't paying attention, she'd out

1137
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,760
and take off running and you'd have to go chase

1138
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,159
her down. And I mean she'd go out there and

1139
01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:09,480
get out in the cow pastures and in the woods

1140
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,480
and stuff. So I don't know if if she decided

1141
01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:14,800
she had a new buddy or what, but you know,

1142
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,159
she came, would always come back safe and sound.

1143
01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:23,119
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, thank goodness for that. Sounds like a

1144
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:25,519
really sweet dog she was, and I just hate that.

1145
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:27,360
Do you have anything happening to her back then?

1146
01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: She sure was. We lost her about five years ago.

1147
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,679
She finally met her match with a rattlesnake unfortunately, so

1148
01:07:37,719 --> 01:07:40,400
that was devastating. She was a she was a good dog.

1149
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,960
But she lived a long, happy life and she was

1150
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,599
well loved.

1151
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,239
Speaker 2: Wollw How old was she?

1152
01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 3: Let's see, I I'm thirty four now, passed away out

1153
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,400
five years ago, so I was twenty nine and I

1154
01:07:57,519 --> 01:08:00,360
got her when I was sixteen, when I six sxteenth

1155
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,960
birthday present, so about thirteen years.

1156
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,719
Speaker 2: I reckon she was Wow. Yeah, that's a long life.

1157
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:09,360
I definitely hate to hear that she died because of

1158
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,760
the rattlesnake bite, but you had a time.

1159
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank.

1160
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: Goodness for that. This next question is from Keitln McLeod

1161
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,760
and Keaitlyn wants to know, Sugar, how is this experience

1162
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,439
going to affect your life from this point?

1163
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:32,079
Speaker 3: Don Well, I mean, ever since that day, I've definitely

1164
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:36,119
been more cautious when I go out and about in

1165
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:40,399
the woods and whatnot. I'll admit the first few months

1166
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,680
after it happened, I didn't really go wandering about anymore.

1167
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,600
The rest of the time that I was still living

1168
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,680
at my mother's house, I never went back out, like

1169
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,520
as far as taking my dog out and stuff. We

1170
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,359
stayed like in my mom's fence backyard, and our exercise

1171
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,880
consisted of, you know, playing with free v's and balls

1172
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,960
stuff like that. I didn't go out of my way

1173
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:08,720
to take her elsewhere other than you know, just within

1174
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:15,399
the my mom's neighborhood. And I'm still cautious. I'll venture

1175
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,359
around the places around our house now and stuff, and

1176
01:09:19,239 --> 01:09:22,600
I'm just very way more alert, and I know that

1177
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:27,720
there's things out there now. But other than that, I

1178
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,239
just I keep on keep on going. I don't want

1179
01:09:31,239 --> 01:09:35,079
to like let it, you know, cripple me from living life, obviously.

1180
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,720
And I'm just thankful that I found this community, obviously,

1181
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,439
because for years and years I was basically living in

1182
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:49,800
silence and felt sort of crazy and misunderstood. And I'm

1183
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,039
just thankful to have somewhere I can go now and

1184
01:09:52,119 --> 01:09:55,279
people to communicate with that are going to understand what

1185
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,119
I went through.

1186
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: Well, it goes without saying I'm so glad that you

1187
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,079
know you you've got all the support and you've got

1188
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:05,560
this community around you. Speaking of the sense of community,

1189
01:10:06,119 --> 01:10:08,319
do you think it'd help you if you could compare

1190
01:10:08,399 --> 01:10:11,399
notes with Cody and that way you could kind of

1191
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,199
talk about the possibility, of course, that the one you

1192
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:16,439
saw was a female. Of course, the one that he's

1193
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,920
been interacting with his female. You've listened to it shows.

1194
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:21,720
Do you think it would help you if you could

1195
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,159
speak with him and compare notes that way?

1196
01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:28,399
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, sure, Like I would love any more information

1197
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,760
and to be able to share experiences with somebody else,

1198
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:37,479
especially somebody that seemed to encounter a very similar type

1199
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,199
of dog man. So yeah, I think that would be

1200
01:10:39,279 --> 01:10:40,000
really helpful.

1201
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought it might be. But I'm going to

1202
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,760
contact Cody off air and ask him about that and

1203
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,800
talk with him about that, and if he's gained for

1204
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,800
doing that, then you'll just help you coordinate that conversation

1205
01:10:54,039 --> 01:10:55,960
and that way you can take it from there. And

1206
01:10:56,279 --> 01:10:58,319
of course, if he's too busy to do that, or

1207
01:10:58,319 --> 01:10:59,840
if he doesn't want to do that, then I can

1208
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,000
definitely peer you up with other eyewitnesses. But one way

1209
01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:05,520
or the other, we'll see this through count on.

1210
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 3: That sounds good, all right.

1211
01:11:09,399 --> 01:11:13,199
Speaker 2: The next question is from Andra's Carizales and Andres wants

1212
01:11:13,279 --> 01:11:16,399
to know when the dog man controlled your inner words,

1213
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,520
did you get the sense that it was old? Asking

1214
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,479
because of the color of fur? Oh, I see what

1215
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,960
he's asking. When the dog man controlled your inner words,

1216
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,560
did you get the sense that it was old? I'm

1217
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,560
asking because of the color of its fur, oh.

1218
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 3: Because of it being a gray one? I honestly don't know.

1219
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:43,000
I didn't really get a sense either way, and just

1220
01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:46,760
going off, you know, like looking at it, it didn't

1221
01:11:47,039 --> 01:11:51,000
I mean, that was gray, but it didn't necessarily look old.

1222
01:11:51,119 --> 01:11:55,000
But not that I have anything to compare it to really,

1223
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:59,520
other than you know, like my old dog tiger who's

1224
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,840
like going in the face. It wasn't like one like that.

1225
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,439
It was still dark. It was a very dark gray

1226
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,840
with almost like a blueness to it. It didn't have

1227
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,960
like those like faded fur features to like its face

1228
01:12:14,079 --> 01:12:15,439
or anything that I could see.

1229
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 2: I see. Yeah, I mean, you've got young dog men

1230
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,079
that are gray, So that's no guarantee that it's old.

1231
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:27,119
It's a possibility it was old because of that, But yeah,

1232
01:12:27,119 --> 01:12:28,960
I guess We're never going to know the answer to that.

1233
01:12:29,239 --> 01:12:32,920
It really won't. The next one up is from Michigan

1234
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,439
Meat Eater, and he wants to know did it look

1235
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,199
natural on two legs or unsteady? Slash not used to it?

1236
01:12:40,119 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 3: Oh? No, it was. It was very natural looking, like

1237
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,680
it just strolled right out of there this which made

1238
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,239
it like even more unsettling, because I mean, it stepped

1239
01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:53,920
right out of that woodline, just on two feet, and

1240
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,319
it just looked like you or me just walking around.

1241
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,520
It was I mean, obviously not the look of it,

1242
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,520
but it seemed very comfortable.

1243
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a funny thing about these guys. Some of

1244
01:13:07,159 --> 01:13:09,720
them look unsteady on two legs and others they come

1245
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:10,560
out like a boss.

1246
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:16,279
Speaker 3: So it seemed like it only really got down on

1247
01:13:16,359 --> 01:13:19,920
all fours when it was getting closer to me. Like,

1248
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,279
like I said, it seemed like it was trying to

1249
01:13:21,279 --> 01:13:25,840
make itself look smaller, because mostly when it moved, it

1250
01:13:26,039 --> 01:13:29,600
got up on two legs. When it was on all fours,

1251
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,520
it just sort of kind of scooted towards me. So

1252
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,359
it seemed more comfortable on two legs. To be honest, that.

1253
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: Still had to be awfully frightening the fact that it

1254
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,800
was just moving towards your period. So, like I said before,

1255
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,319
you deserve a lot of credit for holding it together

1256
01:13:44,399 --> 01:13:48,479
the way you did not easy at all. Now, for

1257
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,279
this next question, I'm going to preface it by saying, yeah,

1258
01:13:51,319 --> 01:13:55,079
you already admitted that you've had ongoing nightmares because of

1259
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:58,920
the haunted house experiences. But the light Seeker wants to know,

1260
01:13:59,039 --> 01:14:02,119
and they're asking obviously about your dog meaning encounters there.

1261
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,000
Have you had any nightmares since the incident.

1262
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,399
Speaker 3: I've had a couple of dog man related nightmares, Like

1263
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,920
I said, not many, like maybe only two or three,

1264
01:14:14,399 --> 01:14:20,439
And they weren't even necessarily like like a reenactment of

1265
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,600
that day. It was it's just been kind of like

1266
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,960
I've been somewhere and I see a dog man. One

1267
01:14:28,039 --> 01:14:30,359
of them. One of the dreams I had it was

1268
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:34,119
like attacking me in the car, and a couple other

1269
01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:37,640
times was was kind of just seeing it more so

1270
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,760
at a distance. So the true nightmare was the one

1271
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,199
of me like being attacked in a car. But I

1272
01:14:43,239 --> 01:14:47,560
think I had also like I have been doing research

1273
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,199
around that time, and so I was also coming across

1274
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:55,520
some different stories. Oh, and I had a dream because

1275
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,079
I heard a story where this girl said that she

1276
01:14:59,359 --> 01:15:03,399
was like in her bed and there was one trying

1277
01:15:03,399 --> 01:15:05,239
to get her to open the door, Like there was

1278
01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:07,960
a glass window and it was looking into her bedroom

1279
01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:09,520
and was trying to get her to come to the door.

1280
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,880
It was like motioning for her. And I had a

1281
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,840
nightmare where I was in that scenario. But yeah, that's

1282
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,039
the the ones I can remember the most. I know.

1283
01:15:20,039 --> 01:15:21,560
I had like a couple more, but they was just

1284
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,000
like kind of seeing them at a distance.

1285
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness, you evn't had a collection of them,

1286
01:15:28,039 --> 01:15:32,359
just a few, Yeah, yeah, thank goodness. Or that. The

1287
01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:35,880
next one is from bon Jasso and Bond wants to know,

1288
01:15:36,079 --> 01:15:38,640
do you think it was tribal? Well, I guess he means,

1289
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,000
do you think it was a tribal thing or just

1290
01:15:42,039 --> 01:15:46,399
a crazy or just crazy encounters?

1291
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:54,079
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know. I don't think like as far

1292
01:15:54,119 --> 01:15:57,640
as like that lands there, I don't know if if

1293
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,760
it has any ties like the Native American Americans there

1294
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,760
or anything like that. I've never had another encounter. I've

1295
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,920
I don't know of anybody around the area having an encounter,

1296
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:16,000
at least nobody I've talked to, the closest thing I've

1297
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,560
had is my brother had something to tap on his

1298
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,800
window one night that I didn't talk to him too

1299
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,119
much about it because my brother's a lot younger than me.

1300
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,600
He's only just now turned thirteen and I'm thirty four,

1301
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,720
So this happened when he was smaller, and I didn't

1302
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,039
really want to startle him, and he didn't see anything anyway.

1303
01:16:38,199 --> 01:16:41,479
He has like blackout curtains and he didn't open the window,

1304
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,920
So who's to say what it was or who it was?

1305
01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:48,199
Speaker 2: You know, how long do you think you're going to

1306
01:16:48,279 --> 01:16:51,000
wait before you go into great detail with him about

1307
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:56,119
your experiences.

1308
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,359
Speaker 3: Until probably when he's an adult and away from my mom.

1309
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:05,039
She has him homeschooled and he's attached to her twenty

1310
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:08,319
four seven. I wasn't really raised by her. I was

1311
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,000
raised by my grandparents, and he's having a very different

1312
01:17:12,119 --> 01:17:17,720
upbringing than what I had, So he's being raised to

1313
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:22,760
see things more her way. So it'd just be easier

1314
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,600
to communicate with him about these things when he's not

1315
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:26,760
under her thumb.

1316
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see a lot of problems with you

1317
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,640
trying to communicate with him about this when he's with her.

1318
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:35,439
Sounds like she's pretty controlling.

1319
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:39,079
Speaker 3: To be honest, I only stay in touch because of him.

1320
01:17:39,119 --> 01:17:41,680
It's just for me to be able to be there

1321
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,640
for my little brother, you know. So I don't want

1322
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,119
to rock the boat too soon, you know.

1323
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,199
Speaker 2: Oh no, I get it, I really do. No more.

1324
01:17:51,279 --> 01:17:54,000
Funland wants to know. Do you think it sends your

1325
01:17:54,039 --> 01:17:57,119
extreme pain and showed itself to check on you out

1326
01:17:57,119 --> 01:17:57,720
of concern?

1327
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,079
Speaker 3: I could see doing that because I mean, like my

1328
01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:07,520
dogs now, they I mean they know when whenever I'm

1329
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,239
having like issues and going through different phases of a

1330
01:18:11,239 --> 01:18:14,560
cycle and having different levels of pain and whatnot, And

1331
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,279
I know dogs are sensitive to that, so I'm sure

1332
01:18:17,279 --> 01:18:20,760
a dog man would be. Or maybe I mean I

1333
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,640
wasn't paying attention to that woodline beforehand. Maybe it just

1334
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,720
saw me sit down on the bridge and thought, what

1335
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,600
the heck is she doing? You know, and it just

1336
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,319
came over out of curiosity.

1337
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, there are a lot of reasons why it

1338
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,159
might have come out and did what it did, But

1339
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,399
all we can do is guess. We're never gonna know.

1340
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,399
Sticky Sweet wants to know. Do you think they're evil

1341
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:44,039
by nature?

1342
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:52,319
Speaker 3: I honestly, I don't know. I don't know. If you

1343
01:18:52,359 --> 01:18:56,880
would call them evil, I just feel like there's something

1344
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:02,439
that's that's here and from you know, from what I've learned,

1345
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:06,920
I've never really heard anything about them until very recently,

1346
01:19:07,039 --> 01:19:10,960
so I feel like they tried to just stay away

1347
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,319
from us, do their thing and let us do ours.

1348
01:19:13,359 --> 01:19:16,560
So I don't feel like they have to go out

1349
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,399
of their way to be you know, quote unquote evil

1350
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:24,319
to us unless we wander into the wrong wrong part.

1351
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:31,159
The dog man I saw was seemed caring towards me.

1352
01:19:31,399 --> 01:19:34,560
It acted like it was concerned and wanted to help.

1353
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:40,800
I don't know if that was genuine, if it wanted

1354
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,800
me to continue to come back or what, But I

1355
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,640
don't I don't feel we can truly just label it

1356
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,920
as just you know, it's not like a mindless evil

1357
01:19:51,039 --> 01:19:55,760
being obviously. I mean, this thing was intelligent, and the

1358
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,079
other stories I've heard they're they're definitely intelligent and they

1359
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:03,600
know what they're doing, and some go out of their

1360
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,720
way to terrorize people and some just want you to

1361
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:09,000
get out of their way.

1362
01:20:10,319 --> 01:20:13,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely hard to think for these guys. There's

1363
01:20:13,159 --> 01:20:15,159
really no way to do it. If you think what

1364
01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:18,399
hard it is to think for people it's no wonder

1365
01:20:18,399 --> 01:20:22,760
that you can't think for these guys. The next question

1366
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:27,640
is from g L. James, and they want to know

1367
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,880
has Nicole suffered from many migraines after the encounter.

1368
01:20:32,399 --> 01:20:37,119
Speaker 3: I do. I have very very bad migraines, but they

1369
01:20:37,159 --> 01:20:42,399
also run in my family, and they also are very

1370
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,920
prone with women who have endometriosis like I do, and

1371
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:52,079
they tend to occur at certain times with me, like

1372
01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:57,079
every single month. So, but and they didn't start until

1373
01:20:58,079 --> 01:21:00,840
maybe five or six years ago for me. So it's

1374
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,439
not something I'd been dealing with, you know, like right

1375
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,720
after the encounter or anything. It's just kind of as

1376
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:11,239
my health has gotten worse with my INDO stuff that

1377
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:16,119
I've had more extreme symptoms and things like that start

1378
01:21:16,199 --> 01:21:20,800
to happen. So I really don't think if it has

1379
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,600
anything to do with the dog man. I think it

1380
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:23,760
just has to do with that.

1381
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,239
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Well, no matter what the cause for that, I'm

1382
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:29,960
so sorry to hear you have to go through that.

1383
01:21:31,079 --> 01:21:34,359
Thank you, Well, you're welcome. Yeah, I just want the

1384
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:38,399
best for you. I've got one more comment for you,

1385
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,640
and it's actually from Cody. Cody's message is Nicole, I'm

1386
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,720
glad you're talking about this. I'm sorry it scared you.

1387
01:21:46,199 --> 01:21:49,239
Not everyone can have encounters like Sasha and I. If

1388
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:51,760
you ever want to talk, I'm open. So there's the

1389
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,840
answer right there. After the show, I'm gonna contact him. Well,

1390
01:21:56,399 --> 01:21:58,159
I still have a lot of work to do tonight

1391
01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:00,439
to prep this show and everything, so I might not

1392
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,920
be able to send Cody a message until tomorrow, but

1393
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,640
rest assured I will contact him to try and coordinate

1394
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,560
this conversation between the two of you.

1395
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 3: That's awesome. I really appreciate that. Thank you, Cody, and

1396
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:13,279
thank you Vic.

1397
01:22:14,359 --> 01:22:17,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good man. I'm not surprised he's doing this,

1398
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,239
not surprised at all. Well, before we get out of

1399
01:22:21,279 --> 01:22:23,439
here and Nicole, do you have any closing comments you'd

1400
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:24,600
like to put out there for us?

1401
01:22:26,079 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 3: I just want to say that I'm really, really glad

1402
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:36,239
I found this community. I really want to think it

1403
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,920
was it Tiffany and her daughter Mattie. I heard your

1404
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:43,840
show last week and hearing Maddie speak about it, I thought, well,

1405
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,640
if Maddie can come on here and talk about this,

1406
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,960
then I want to. I just I want to do

1407
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,239
this too. She was She was like, you know, she

1408
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,840
gave me, this this stepping stone to want to be brave.

1409
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,319
I was like, if this little girl can do this,

1410
01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:03,479
I need to be brave too. And so the next

1411
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,800
day I contacted Vic and he got in touch with

1412
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,680
me very shortly after. And this has just all been

1413
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,119
really eye opening and I'm and if anybody that's listening

1414
01:23:15,159 --> 01:23:18,159
to this, if you're like me and you didn't know

1415
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,319
what you saw, or you're just learning about these things

1416
01:23:21,359 --> 01:23:26,039
and you need somebody to talk to, please don't hesitate

1417
01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:29,439
to contact Vic. He will truly help you. And this

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01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,239
community just seems so wonderful. And again I'm just so

1419
01:23:32,359 --> 01:23:36,359
grateful to found it. So if you please don't hesitate.

1420
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,079
If you want to reach out, go ahead and do it.

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Don't let anything stop you.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I told you before, I'm so glad you

1423
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,800
did find out about this community, and of course about

1424
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,239
me as well. And here he had all this apprehension

1425
01:23:50,279 --> 01:23:52,119
about coming on and you knocked it out of the

1426
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:55,399
park tonight. I knew you could do it. I really did,

1427
01:23:56,399 --> 01:23:56,800
thank you.

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01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: I was very nervous, and I think a lot of

1429
01:24:00,119 --> 01:24:04,319
I like excitement when telling the story was just was

1430
01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:07,439
more of the stage fright than from the reliving the

1431
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:08,000
dog Man.

1432
01:24:08,359 --> 01:24:12,319
Speaker 2: Honestly, well, that happens. I mean I've told people who

1433
01:24:12,319 --> 01:24:15,960
are nervous before shows of ear that it's totally normal.

1434
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,800
I mean, I've had people come on the show who

1435
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,000
this show even, who have their own podcasts, and they're

1436
01:24:23,079 --> 01:24:26,800
so nervous before we started recording, you could pretty much

1437
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,199
hear them shake. So it's trust me, it's not just you.

1438
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,760
If people who host their own podcasts can get that nervous,

1439
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,439
then I mean it's only normal for someone who doesn't

1440
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,640
do this to get nervous like that, So that's no biggie.

1441
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,800
And besides that, like I said, you knocked it out

1442
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,199
of the park tonight. I mean, you put an excellent

1443
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,920
explanation out there of your encounters for us, and your

1444
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,479
answers for all these questions were spot on, So you

1445
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,760
didn't leave anything wanting. You didn't.

1446
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad to think thank you well.

1447
01:25:01,359 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 2: You're welcome. You are welcome. Well. Having said all that, Nicole,

1448
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,199
like I said, I'm so glad you reached out. And

1449
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,760
if you ever need any help from me, all you

1450
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,359
have to do is just let me know, and by

1451
01:25:12,359 --> 01:25:15,399
all means, I'll schedule another conversation with you. To find

1452
01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:18,439
out what's ailing you in. Well take it from there.

1453
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,119
But having said all that, thanks Against so much for

1454
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:23,039
coming on and have a great night.

1455
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 3: Thank you you too, by everyone.

1456
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:32,399
Speaker 2: You're welcome, take care all right, that's another one in

1457
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,199
the books. Everyone, thanks Against so much for all of

1458
01:25:35,239 --> 01:25:38,159
your support for these eyewitnesses. Is you can hear it

1459
01:25:38,199 --> 01:25:41,279
definitely makes a difference and for that I can't thank

1460
01:25:41,319 --> 01:25:44,600
you enough. One last thing before you get out of here.

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01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,680
If you've had a dog mean encounter or dog me

1462
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,079
in encounters of your own and you'd like to reach

1463
01:25:50,119 --> 01:25:52,239
out to me for help, or maybe you want to

1464
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:55,159
come on the show and share your experience or experiences

1465
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,319
with dog men with the listeners, well all you would

1466
01:25:59,319 --> 01:26:02,159
need to do is just to go to Dogmanencounters dot

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01:26:02,199 --> 01:26:05,199
com and submit a report. And if you do that

1468
01:26:05,359 --> 01:26:09,199
then I'll contact you to schedule a phone conversation. Then

1469
01:26:09,359 --> 01:26:12,520
we'll take it from there. But yeah, I can't thank

1470
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,640
you enough. Like I said, for all of your support,

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01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,239
I really do appreciate it and hope you all have

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a great weekend and a great night.