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Speaker 1: We're talking the twenty two creed More in an awesome

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rifle build from Maniacal Arms with Todd Banua. Hey, I'm kJ,

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dedicated lifelong hunter.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: If you've got an interest in all things hunting, if

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you're in the right spot, whether chasing quell across the

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plains of Oklahoma, we're in pursuit of belk in the

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back country of British Columbia, you'll always find me on

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the hunt, Gun Talk Hunters. I'm your host, kJ, and

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today in studio we've got Todd Banua of Maniacal Firearms,

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Maniacal arms, firearms, arms all the same. We're gonna get

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into a conversation. But this episode is brought to you

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by Ruger range Ready Studios and Eotech. All Right, to

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start out, everything we do, I do an AI generated

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poem about our host, and usually it involves a random

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animal and a random fruit, maybe sometimes a vegetable. I

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don't know why came up. Yeah, yeah, so this is

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what it came up for. Todd Banua in the Bayous

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where the Cypress Lean lives, Todd Banua machine so keen

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with maniacal hands and craftsman's pride. He builds the truth.

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No gun can hide steel in spirit, bolt, and breach.

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He shoots fly. His shots fly truer than a Georgia peach,

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through the wind and rain, through dusk and dawn. His

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rifles hum a deadly song. A beaver watches from the

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cypress roots as lead fly flew clean in tailored boots,

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It tipped its hat. If beaver's due to the man

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whose aim cuts clean and true from Cajun earth and

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fire refined, Todd sculpt's precision. One of a kind, maniacal, sure,

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But make no mistake, there's art in every gun he makes. Dude,

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that's a that's AI generated.

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Speaker 2: Even the reference to Georgia peach. I was born and

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I did not know that I know, but it did apparently.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is weird.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of kin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's this is the early stages. Yeah, no, like

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I don't know how we got onto this. I was like, Oh,

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I wonder if what it'll do, what it'll kick out?

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And I think the first one was like there was

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a kum quat and a I don't know, some other

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animal another an animal, but uh, it's wild what it

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can do. Yeah, and it's it's really wild. What cartridges.

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This is a great segue. I'm gonna just go ahead

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and say it's a great segue because because it's wild

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what cartridges are coming out and what we're building off of.

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You know, it starts with one and it leads to another,

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and you're you're one of those guys. I feel like

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it's always like what's possible with whatever your the flavor

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of the week is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean and you know too, It's like, look,

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a lot of credit to the guys at Horizon because

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they really brought this twenty two creed more up to

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light and just being everybody you know, but it's relatively

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new to everyone else. They don't realize how long they've

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been working on it, right, and then now that Hornerity's

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on board, of course.

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Speaker 1: Well now it's just mass producing. Yeah, right, everybody, Now

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that's what everybody's talking to you because Hornity is a maybe.

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They make great stuff. They are a great marketing tool

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for rounds.

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Speaker 2: They are one of the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say they're probably pretty dang close to

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the best, because I don't see many they when they

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grab hold of a cartridge or they create something new,

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like you know, the twenty two arc or the six'

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five of what THE Rc, yeah THE prc. Cartridges they

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bring those to light and they're really able to shine

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a good light on, them.

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Speaker 2: And you, know and even like, that like the six FIVE.

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Prc When hornity came out with, IT i was, like,

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well we've had a six to five, song, right but

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it wasn't you, know you had the, handloads you had

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to do all these other things for, it and they

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brought it into the light where it's like, now it's

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now it's very very. Prolific everybody really likes that. Cartridge

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and at FIRST i was, like, eh you, know Cause

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i'm big ON i love six five to eighty, four,

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Right but Then i'm, like, man like the more of

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my build and, shoot and then you pair them with

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that factory? Ammo you, KNOW i mean it's like These

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that's how that's what brought me to these IS i

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had a couple of customers say they wanted them, building

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SO i was, like oh. Well and then so every

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TIME i didn't have the, reamer SO i Was i'm

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gonna go study up a little, bit see what's going,

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on twist rates and you know all this, stuff And i'm, like,

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wow that's pretty. Interesting i'm, LIKE i wonder WHAT i

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could get out of, That, like you, know these guys

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want to shoot factory or, whatever And i'm, like that's pretty,

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Interesting so WELL i go ahead and throw me goe.

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Together while you know.

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Speaker 1: That's funny is that you start building your Own you're, like,

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okay WHEN i know it's really good when you start

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building your own, gun, well, well, Right and.

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Speaker 2: You, know the the MORE i kept looking at it

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and reading about, It i'm, like, man you know the

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guys at the horizon they're shooting Black bear with them

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at four, fifty you, know And i'm, like with.

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Speaker 1: It twenty two creed.

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Speaker 2: More, yes they have YouTube videos of, it you. Know

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so then you start reading in the ballistics and all that,

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stuff and you, know if you paired it BECAUSE i

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always thought a six Creed more was probably was really

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a better hunting cartridge than a six, five, okay because

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it's a little more speed to, it so in speed equals, energy,

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Right but then when you look at this and you

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compare it to a six Creed, more let's say they're

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running the same weight bullet an eighty grain okay out

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to one thousand and twenty two retains more energy and

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speed because of the sleekness of the.

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Speaker 1: Bullet, okay so you get a BETTER bc out of.

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Speaker 2: It, yeah and at four you, know at four hundred.

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YARDS i MEAN i don't have it written, down BUT

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i mean it was like it was pretty substantial difference

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in foot pounds between a six and a twenty. Two

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and WHEN i seen, THAT i was, like, wow, man

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to not have much, equal, right because a lot of

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guys really always go to, bigger heavier, guns but then

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they don't shoot them as. Well you, know when you

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have something that doesn't recoil much when you squeeze that

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trigger and it's right. THERE i. Mean shot placement is

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a big part of yeah stuff, too you know it.

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IS i, mean and, LOOK i still love the big.

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ONES i, mean you know, ME i got three hundred normally,

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improved AND i shoot a lot of stuff with you,

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too because something can't be too, dead.

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Speaker 1: Right yeh can't mean it doesn't go, anywhere, Right and

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shot placement is is huge on. Everything but when you're

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talking about like a twenty two Creed more as opposed

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to like a six moime or Creed, MORE i think

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what a lot of guys are a little bit fearful

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of especially if they shoot a. Lot most guys probably

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will not shoot this gun enough to burn out barrels barrel,

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life since it's it's, overboard like you would think that

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that would play a role in someone's. Decision Because I'M

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i am taxed right now BECAUSE i want to build

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a gun and to build a new, one and Now

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i'm taxed between WHETHER i shoot a twenty two Creed

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more or DO i go with a six milimeter Creed more,

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like SO i have TO i have to think about

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barrel life Because i'm, like, well what IF i want

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to shoot this in a?

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Speaker 2: Match, WELL i MEAN i think that from What i've

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read and looked, at it should be close to the

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same if you if you stay off of, it.

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Speaker 1: Right you know you're Not you're not pushing those pressures

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and you're not pushing.

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Speaker 2: SPEEDS i. Am i'm. TRYING i want to see what it'll.

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Speaker 1: Do So i'm, what what is what is the twenty

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two Creed more capable?

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Speaker 2: Of so with reloading with Todes i've gotten with eighty

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five and a half crane, Burgers i've got thirty six

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fifteen of it good, gosh, yeah and and Decent. YEAH

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i mean it's it's a, lot BUT i MEAN i

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always want to see how far it'll go and then

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some you, know all that because it may not always

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shoot the greatest at the fastest you can run, it.

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Right and the other DAY i did use some seventy

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seven match kings and it and we went to, uh

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probably thirty five seventy five with, it but four different

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powder charges all shot two shot one whole groups at

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one hundred really and uh but the highest powder charge

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just got a little, separation not in the holes were,

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touching but it wasn't like the other, ones, Right so

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that kind of told me that we're starting to speed

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it up a little too, fast, Right so we come

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back a little bit on, it and then it should be.

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Good but NOW i want to put fifty two's in

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it match kings and see where they, go you. KNOW

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I mean the problem Now i'm running into Is i'm

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running out of case.

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Speaker 1: Capacity you're stuffing it. In, now that's just that's The

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cris you, know that's The Chris serno method of, reloading,

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Right just fill it, up fill the case, up and

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then press it.

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Speaker 2: In i've crushed. POWDER i, mean, YEAH i.

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Speaker 1: Don't, mind like crushing some powder every once in a,

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while but like there's a there's a danger to.

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Speaker 2: That well, well, YEAH i, mean and you know all

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the you, know you always have to work up on

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stuff like, that slow and small increments and always pay

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attention to brass and primers and and. Stuff you.

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Speaker 1: KNOW i, mean no, way no, Way chris does that?

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah that's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah well he just goes in there and he knows

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what he likes and he's just, LIKE i just fill

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it to the.

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Speaker 2: Top what was crazy is those match kings the other

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day WHEN i put them in they, UH i just

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picked a seating up BECAUSE i was just pressure testing

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it just to see what it would. Hold and they

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all shot really good right. There, really but you, know

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the the HORNEREDY i shot match and Precision hunter out of,

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it and with those you, know twenty two inch barrel.

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Here so, YEAH i just finished another one for a

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guy that's a twenty four Inch, okay so we're gonna

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do a little bit with. That he'll let me shoot

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a little bit BEFORE i hand over to. Him but

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the first ONE i did was a twenty two inch

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and that guy tried four different, powders five different, projectiles

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and he called me up and said he had a

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problem with. It AND i was, like, well what's the

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problem and he, said, WELL i can't get it to shoot.

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Bad everything's under half. Inch And i'm, like well that's

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a good.

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Speaker 1: Thing he's like, that that's a great.

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Speaker 2: Thing. Yeah he, goes, Well i'm bringing you another action.

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TODAY i want to build another. One AND i was, like,

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Okay i've built him one good.

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Speaker 1: Better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes you, know and.

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Speaker 1: Especially if you find something that shoots and something that.

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Speaker 2: Work, yeah and he and he likes to. Shoot he

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goes on the weekends and shoots a. Lot AND i

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MEAN i built him a six arc last year and

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he took it To texas and killed seven.

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Speaker 1: Deer with no.

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Speaker 2: Kidding, yeah you know WHAT i. Mean and people wouldn't

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really think of that six arc as being a NO

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a hunting, cartridge but you, know high shoulder shot at

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twenty eight hundred feet a. Second, yeah put a one

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Speaker 1: Eight that's going to. Anchor, YEAH i mean it's. Fine.

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all time is the twenty two two, fifty, RIGHT i,

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mean and for me and deer like that high shoulder shot,

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anchorum you might have to put one more.

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Speaker 2: In and that's what kind of that's what kind of

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got me on. That WHEN i started looking at everybody

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was comparing it to, it, going, well it's this going

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to be better than the twenty two two Fifty And i'm, like,

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man that's see a tall.

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Speaker 1: Order it is a tall order because it's a traditional, round,

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Right and see that's WHERE i get in today's like

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cartridge designs and what we're able to do because the

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technology is just simply better.

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Speaker 2: Bullet you, know bullets have came so much further than

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than what carts even case and then you, KNOW i

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mean now with the back country that that's a case

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designer we haven't seen in a long you know ever gallery. Stuff,

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yeah so that's that's changing the game. There you, know

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that's a good you, know but guns and all that

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haven't really came that, far but bullet the design and

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of the, construction the construction has gotten so now you,

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know if you can shoot something small that's light, recoil.

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Speaker 1: Well think of what it does for youth shooters like.

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It it eliminates a lot of the problems they, develop you,

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know shooting at a young age and a little bit

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recoil adverse to now they're you, know there is no.

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Recoil they see their, shots they know where they're.

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Speaker 2: Hitting, yeah that's a that's a big.

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Speaker 1: Deal, oh it's Hugely. Yeah but are we are we

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nosing out like some of the traditional, cartridges because it's my,

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Fear LIKE i love the twenty two two. Fifty i've

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got like five of them in my safe BECAUSE i

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love them somewey, Right are we nosing those? OUT i don't.

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Speaker 2: KNOW i, mean you, KNOW i feel like there's always

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going to be that's. ALL i. Think that's one of

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the beauties of rifles is that there is really no

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one and done perfect for everything, cartridge right, RIGHT i

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think if there's you, know you're obviously not going to

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take a twenty two Creed more and go moose hunting

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with it right.

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Speaker 1: Now don't Tell Tyler frele that, technically because he will do.

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Speaker 2: It it could if you want to get up in

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there close with him and you're running them at some

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high speeds with the right. Bullets but but it's still

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it's just not it's not the voice for.

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Speaker 1: That you know WHAT i THINK i want to, SAY

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i Think Tyler frile did shoot his, moose you, know

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this year or last year with a twenty two Creed.

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Speaker 2: MORE i want to see something about that.

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Speaker 1: TOO i think he.

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Speaker 2: DID i may have seen that.

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Speaker 1: And and And i've Seen tyler. Shoot he is. Excellent

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he spends a lot of time developing. Loads BUT i

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want to say he. Did.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean that's even even bullet you, know like

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we're talking about bullet. CONSTRUCTION i mean me and a

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buddy mine where my range is at is at his.

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House we have five hundred yards Here. Luisiana that's a

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long way, right long, ways and and we both hunt a.

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Lot his, kids both his sons, Hunt so we test

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a lot of we try things, right you, know just

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shooting does or, whatever hogs whatever it may, be to

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see bullet how they, Operate, yeah how they. Function and you,

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know we got on the solids a couple of years,

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ago and and we like. Them but then there's some

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limits to them, too you, know the. Solids if you

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run them too, fast they just zip through and there's

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no blood trails and. Stuff there's a happy, yeah there.

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Is so so there's always like a you, know and

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the same thing is going to be with THIS i, mean,

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now would that thirty six fifteen that burger be the

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one to hunt? With, probably you, know MAYBE i would.

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TRY i will try it on a hog coming up

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here pretty, soon but you, know just just to see

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what it'll. Do you. Know i've always kind of shot

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like the match kings and match bullets at animals that

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everybody kind of shies away from.

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Speaker 1: Them but let's let's take could break, here and let's

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let's continue the bullet. Construction Because todd is really big

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into factory loads out of his guns. First that's how

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he tests. Everything, like everything's held up to a standard

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and it's factory, loads like because everybody doesn't, handload, right you,

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know everybody doesn't. Handloads that gun can shoot factory loads.

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GOOD i, mean, yeah why not shoot.

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Speaker 2: That that's one of the reasons WHY i like the

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hornedy stuff. Though the match The Precision, hunter, yeah you,

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know the nozzle or trophy grade is good. Stuff norma

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is making some pretty good. Box, yes they've seen shooting

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out out of guns. THAT i went by a guy's

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place to shoot with him AND i built him a

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six FIVE. Prc. Yeah WHEN i shot, IT i shot

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The Precision hunter out of it and, it you, know

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wadded him. Up it shot grade at five hundred and

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THEN i went to his house and he's, like, oh

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you need to shoot my. Rifle AND i, SAID i

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zeroed it for. YOU i built, IT i shot, it and,

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NO i want you to shoot this. Ammo and it

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was some norma like one yeah tipped you, know hunting.

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ROUNDS i don't remember the name of the off, hand

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but THEY i shot three of, them almost touching at two.

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Twenty no, kids his, distances his range in thus AND

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i was, like holy, Cow SO i took. IT i

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have some pictures of the boxes on my, thing And i'm,

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LIKE i put some of those in the. Shop when

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people buy those, RIFLES i like to HAVE ammo around.

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That we always have hornity stocked up.

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Speaker 1: In oh, yeah yeah you. Do all, Right we're gonna

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take a bake real. Quick we'll be right. Back you

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ever wish your hunting rifle had an optic so compact

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right we're back With todbenera Of Maniacal arms And write

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out Of, Covington. Louisiana, so AND i think it's a

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great time to plug Your instagram account because, dude you're

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posting all the time like the guns that you're building

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at the.

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Speaker 2: TIME i should be posting, more But i'm just.

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Speaker 1: Well you're kind of.

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Speaker 2: Busy, god it just takes me Because i'm not good at.

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Speaker 1: It WHAT i need to do IS i just need

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to run up there once a week and film what

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you're doing and Then i'll, post.

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Speaker 2: You, know we started or open the YouTube channel because

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we wanted to do some stuff like that every, week

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like maybe On, monday like Maniacal, monday you, know what

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are we going to do this? Week or what did

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we do last? Week but one of the PROBLEMS i

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have with that too is, that especially with our paint

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in our, BUILDS i don't ever post stuff out on

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social media until the customer gets it in their. HANDS

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i like them to be the, first you, know and then.

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Speaker 1: Because that's that's, personal like that's.

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Speaker 2: There, Yeah AND i mean and, TWO i get a

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lot of satisfaction from that of their reaction and there you,

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know they're liking of the of the whatever it, is

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whether it's A Sarah coach job or a custom. Build

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that means a lot to. Me SO i don't SO

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i KNOW i hosted or send them to tell you they,

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said oh, man we'll send me a picture of. IT

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i can't get there till next. Week, No i'm, LIKE

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i don't do. That i'm, Sorry they're like post them

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all over social. Media i'm, like it be after you get.

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Speaker 1: It, yeah, yeah THAT'S i, mean that's a fair way

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to do it and then IT i, LIKE i like that.

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Policy it's a good one to. Have but we were

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talking a little bit about so, anyway maniacal arms go

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give them a look over On. INSTAGRAM i love their

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stuff BECAUSE i have a couple of the guns myself

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And i'm about to build another Where todd's about to

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build me another.

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Speaker 2: ONE i actually talked With wooks yesterday and we built

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your rifle for a buildbox a couple of seasons ago

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on A wooks. Chassis AND i was talking to the

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gal yesterday and she, said, well, look let us know

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when you get it together and post, it because we'll

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repost it for, you, Right AND i was, LIKE i

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really appreciate. THAT i, said you, know y'all reposted one

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of my other rifles THAT i built for the host

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of Gun talk and or a, buildbox and it really

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went over. GOOD i got a lot of lot of you,

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know traction from. It and she, goes, oh my, goodness that's.

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You And i'm like, yeah and she's, like you don't

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know how many Times i've sent that video to people

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of that. Gun she's, LIKE i know three different guys

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out BECAUSE i think she's In. Arizona she's, LIKE i

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know three different guys out here that have copied that

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gun or tried to copy, it because there's no.

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Speaker 1: Way there's no way you can copy that. Gun there's,

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well there is a.

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Speaker 2: Way he did copy it because and they wanted. It

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BUT i called you.

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Speaker 1: First you, DID i did, Well and it's not exactly the.

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Same it's not a little bit a little, different, yea

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because you you, do you having a unique touch on

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every single every single gun you put. Out AND i

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think you, know if you're looking to to get a

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get get a gun, built or or tune a gun,

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up even.

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Speaker 2: Three, barrels and you do a lot of that right, now,

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SPRINGTIME i Bet i've been doing four or five optic

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mounts on shotguns a, week no. Kidding, yeah, well and

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then you know a lot of times you'll get sir

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coated on LIKE i did one morning BEFORE i came.

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Speaker 1: Here really, yeah see that's.

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Speaker 2: Big, now see my, Thing, luisiane it's.

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Speaker 1: My thing is is. Man you you've got to be

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doing the stuff you're wanting in the. Fall you got

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to be doing. IT i would, say good time In,

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march In april or the time to get it in

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because you get booked up because you, know closer you

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get to hunting, season guys are, like oh, CRAP i

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meant to do.

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Speaker 2: That it's always out of your mind until it gets that,

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time you. Know and then two it's always Like June

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july is always barren because because that's time when you take.

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Vacation kids are out of, school you take vacation with the,

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family all that, stuff you, know and it's like if

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you go, spend you drop a deposit on the custom.

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Rifle your wife's, like what did you do on the

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back of the. Neck because you're supposed to go To Disney.

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Speaker 1: World, OH i hope my wife doesn't listen.

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Speaker 2: To This Disney. World but somewhere else, Cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah somewhere somewhere. Unique don't get me started on the

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flight To orlando from anywhere in the. Country if you're

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going To orlando and you're on a, flight maybe it's for,

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business maybe you're going to THE I Cash show or

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just visiting, family but every flight To orlando.

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Speaker 2: Sucks it's like an hour from here, Too LIKE i, know.

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Speaker 1: Because it's all. Kids it's all kids and just. Going

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please let me have parents that give a.

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Speaker 2: Ship, yeah turn it.

466
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Speaker 1: Up, yep sunglasses, on shields. Up. Everything it's That july

467
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,839
and you're wearing a. Hoodie, yeah BECAUSE i don't want

468
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,440
to interact with.

469
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: You are you ready To turkey?

470
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,799
Speaker 1: Hunt yeahkey oh?

471
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,319
Speaker 2: Yeah oh.

472
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,559
Speaker 1: Yeah we just launched A turkey episode the other. DAY

473
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,920
i need to show you because we have A i

474
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,200
have a little call, Keeper like it's like a call

475
00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:39,000
keeper THAT i have and it's. UH i put mouth

476
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,519
washing it in little water and, dude it keeps the

477
00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:44,119
calls fresh and WHEN i pull them, out it's like

478
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:45,799
it freshens my breath a little.

479
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:47,559
Speaker 2: Bit yeah.

480
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: Exactly so, wow what a what a great side. Quest

481
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,160
so we were talking about twenty two creed more and

482
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,920
like box. Ammunition we were starting to talk about that

483
00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:03,079
and in the stand that you hold your guns to

484
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:08,119
to be able to shoot those very. Precisely. Yeah, actually

485
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:11,440
that was the one time That i've ever Outshot Chris.

486
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,119
Serno was that was with the gun that you built.

487
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,400
Him you chambered in six five three. More he took

488
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,039
it from three o eight to sixty, five AND i outshot,

489
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,240
him AND i shot probably the best Group i'll ever.

490
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:28,039
Shoot it's it's just outside one whole, group, right five

491
00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:32,160
shots with factory FACTORY amo and so why do you

492
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,480
why do you hold the guns to that? Standard is

493
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,759
is PRODUCTION ammo better than it has been Or?

494
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely they're definitely making it better now than they used,

495
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,920
to you, know ten fifteen years, ago for. SURE i

496
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,920
mean they you, know when you look at like the other,

497
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,480
day WHEN i shot this with the would box MATCH

498
00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:58,240
ammo five or seven shots with AN s AND d of? Nine,

499
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,319
yeah that's that's pretty that's pretty tight for factory LOADED.

500
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,119
Ammo you, know because even like IN, prs we were

501
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,559
always looking for single digit you, know handload and we're

502
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,720
looking for single digit. Stuff, yeah we're shooting for your,

503
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,880
yeah just ye, digits you, know because then when you

504
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,839
dial a, scope it's it's. TRUE i mean the Two

505
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:22,240
i'm about to build a third one of the twenty

506
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:28,079
two with a BOX amo From. Hornity i've seen some

507
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,400
inch and three quarter groups at five hundred at five

508
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,240
hundred yards with three, shots yeah really. Yep, yeah the

509
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,599
SIXTH arc, Two, okay seen a lot with. That that

510
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,480
m is like the guy built it for he's trying

511
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,799
to handload for, it And i'm like it at one hundred,

512
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:49,559
yards it'll shoot eight of them in the same hole

513
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,279
With hornity match and at five hundred it's an inch

514
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,440
and a quarter inch and a Half and that's not, exaggeration,

515
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:57,839
right pictures and, stuff you, know the.

516
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: Oh, NO i get. That, yeah it's like he's, like

517
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,720
look WHAT i, did and it's, like how do you you?

518
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Know? Now, granted like with the sixth, arc you, know

519
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,599
the factory offerings are meant for gas, gun, right SO

520
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,160
i have to keep the pressures, down so technically there

521
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,799
is a little more room there if you handload and

522
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:17,960
squeeze a little more performance out of. It for. Sure,

523
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:21,640
okay as all, is but but with, that especially because

524
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,880
it's they can't make one for a boat and one

525
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,960
for gas because some goofball put the boat gun stuff

526
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,440
in his gas go on and lock it up and

527
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,000
then cry about it To, hornity you, know like they.

528
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: Do, so, hey here's a question for. You so you've

529
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,079
got the twenty two creed, more you've got a twenty two,

530
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,039
Arc like, Why, like where's the difference there? Is they're

531
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:49,440
like four hundred feet per second type deal with the

532
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,319
twenty two arcs just running a little bit.

533
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: Slower, well the ONES i did were SIX i did Ax.

534
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,799
YEAH i did a gas gun for a guy with

535
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,200
the twenty two that went To, georgia okay about a

536
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,359
month and a half ago or, whatever a predator you,

537
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,079
know you're learning for shooting kytes and. Stuff and then

538
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,640
we did a thermal on it and, stuff and it

539
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:14,359
was it was around the same speech as the sixes,

540
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,079
are you, know and they get twenty seven hundred feet

541
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:21,240
per second. Range BUT i think it's gonna end up

542
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,440
being similar to like comparing the six to the twenty

543
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,880
two creed more, RIGHT i think because of the, bullet

544
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,279
THE bc of the bullet and the sweetness of its

545
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:32,319
just gonna. CARRY i mean this thing here the other

546
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,079
day WHEN i was shooting factory with, it which the

547
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,839
factory Off i'm getting with a twenty two inch like

548
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,559
right at twenty two d a second with hornity match

549
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,720
one hundred yards zero five hundred yards was uh one

550
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:51,519
point seven? Real and then, yeah and then with and

551
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,440
then with the handload STUFF i was, doing it was

552
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,319
like one point. Three good, god he get the five.

553
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,279
HUNDRED i, mean what is that?

554
00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: FOR i, mean because when you're you're talking like a

555
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:06,240
rough live creed, more you're looking at, three so you're

556
00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:08,839
cutting it in a half almost and twenty two Creed

557
00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:16,119
more is a neck Down, yeah that's so can you

558
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,839
shoot this like so beyond the varmint in? Whitetail and

559
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,240
according To Tyler, friele WHICH i believe, him like goose,

560
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:30,480
hunting like what twenty two Creed, more what are you

561
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:34,519
able to get away with like in? Competition BECAUSE nrl,

562
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,640
hunter which is WHAT i would love to shoot it.

563
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,759
At i've got to look at the, rags But i'm

564
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:45,279
pretty sure like it'll meet power, factor but it won't

565
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,759
meet it will not meet power factor if you're, handloading

566
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,400
but if you're shooting factory, loads power factor doesn't.

567
00:28:53,400 --> 00:29:00,759
Speaker 2: Matter oh then, yeah so that match ammos is PRETTY i,

568
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,000
MEAN i wouldn't be scared to shoot a match with that. Stuff,

569
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:03,640
No i've.

570
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Been that's ALL i shoot matches with is FACTORY amo

571
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,839
and it's ALL i. Shot a match did not finish, Well,

572
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,200
okay but it's not that's not it's not the AMA's,

573
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,680
faults not the gun's faut it's my. Fault but when

574
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,240
it was not, WINDY i was shooting hornity blims blim

575
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:26,039
ammo right and it was.

576
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:34,359
Speaker 2: Great, YEAH i mean you, know and there's always that that,

577
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,440
question like you, know or that that statement LIKE i,

578
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,720
NEED i want to, go and that shoots this, right

579
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:43,000
that can shoot good groups out to a, thousand you,

580
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:46,440
know let's just say minute going into a, thousand a

581
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,200
minute going to a thousand or even five. Hundred, Right

582
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,960
but you can build it that way and all the

583
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,000
equipment can match up to, that but there's still one

584
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,960
factor of it that plays into, that and that's that human. Fact.

585
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,759
Right you, KNOW i tell, GUYS i can't come squeeze

586
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:04,200
the trigger for.

587
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:07,559
Speaker 1: Him you, know there's no you got to spend time

588
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:09,640
behind that gun and then you got to get intimate with.

589
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: It BUT i feel like with something like this versus

590
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,119
a big magnum cart is, now, LOOK i feel like

591
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,880
this IS i Know tyler did kill something at least with.

592
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,319
It to, me it's like a mule deer down kind of,

593
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,319
car right then, respectively probably out to about five hundred

594
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:30,240
would would kind.

595
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: Of that would be limits on it with factory.

596
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,359
Speaker 2: Stuff so what WOULD i mean just BECAUSE i mean

597
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:38,519
you still have to you, KNOW i don't. Know ethical

598
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,759
hunting is a big discussion among a lot of, people

599
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:44,680
and you, know some people feel, like you, know shooting,

600
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,640
anything no matter what you're shooting at them at a

601
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,680
thousand yards is not. Ethical BUT i feel like ethical

602
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,039
is dependent on the, individual. Right, yes if you know

603
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,839
what your limits are and you study your cartridge and

604
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,319
you know what your energy at what distance you're, producing

605
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:01,599
that that's kind of WHERE i. Start you. KNOW i

606
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,559
got in a situation on my first bull ever In

607
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:08,200
colorado years, ago had a seven arson AND i knew

608
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,920
what the BULLETS i was shooting was pretty much mixed

609
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,799
out for a bull at about seven hundred yards seven twenty. Five,

610
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,839
yeah and a bull walks out at eight, fifty and

611
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:20,279
this guy's, going you can make that you shoot.

612
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:22,319
Speaker 1: COMPETITION i, can't AND i.

613
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: COULD i could have hit that bull with, It i'm

614
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,119
almost certain of, it BUT i didn't even try BECAUSE

615
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,559
i felt LIKE i Wasn't that wouldn't be fair to

616
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:33,519
that the, game, Right but, well happily that's where my

617
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,359
line was drawn that. Day but THEN i went back

618
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,359
to the shop built a twenty eight nozzle and so

619
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:39,119
next time.

620
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: That next, time that won't. Happened so that's. Funny i'll

621
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,720
build something bigger than carry that. ENERGY i, mean that's The,

622
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:49,920
yeah that was the, point you, know, WELL i mean

623
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,359
when you talk about energy in the six five or

624
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:57,480
six millimeter as opposed to a twenty two Creed, more

625
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,880
what what range is best for? That? Like is it

626
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,599
the kind of the similar.

627
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: If you compare? Them AND i, think, Actually i'm don't

628
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,519
quote me on, this But i'm pretty sure it was

629
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,759
a horizon that has a video on YouTube of a

630
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:20,000
comparison of drop charts of each right with foot pounds

631
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:24,559
energy drop at the distances and it's you, know four,

632
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,039
hundred it's definitely doing better, still and even out to a,

633
00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:30,279
thousand it was still maybe one hundred feet per second

634
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:35,359
faster than the six running equal weight. Bullets and then you,

635
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,039
know maybe eighty or so foot pounds still. More its just,

636
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,839
carrying it's it's carrying.

637
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,079
Speaker 1: More the BC's, better which translates into like your better.

638
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,519
Speaker 2: Velocities, yeah you keep the speed going then obviously that you,

639
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:52,279
know speed equals, Energy so if you keep the speed,

640
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,200
up then the foot pounds is a little better. Too, Right.

641
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,279
Speaker 1: So all this to, say You're i'm going to be

642
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:00,440
building a twenty to Creed.

643
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,039
Speaker 2: MORE i, mean, look if somebody doesn't buy that, One

644
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,400
i'll hunt with that one this. Year BUT i sold

645
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,720
my hunting rifle last, year my regular deer. Rifle, yeah so.

646
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Four so the six five two eighty four is, out

647
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,200
the twenty two Creed more is. In that's what you're.

648
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,279
Speaker 2: RIGHT i want to be able TO i want TO

649
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:20,599
i like to have that. Knowledge, YEAH i, mean oh,

650
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,119
Yeah well it's a real world yeah, right Because i'm

651
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,920
going to shoot some hogs with it and. Stuff but they're,

652
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,519
different different than. Deer and but so what's in All

653
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,160
my hog killing spots are all kind of close quarter,

654
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,519
anyway so it's, yeah you get to really stretch its,

655
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:36,240
legs get its.

656
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: Legs, SO i, mean we've been talking about this twenty

657
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,680
two Creed more that's on the desk in front of,

658
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,640
us but we have not talked about a single element

659
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:49,960
aside from the. Cartridge so what have you what have

660
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:54,279
you done to make this one unique and stand? Out

661
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:56,279
what what have you included with all of?

662
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: It, WELL i, mean you, know as far as, parts.

663
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:05,400
Yep so we've been building a fair amount on Mac. Bros,

664
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:12,960
actions especially this element that's, bolt, yeah fluted, bolt split

665
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:19,280
rail recoll ug. Machine then the rails are screwed and

666
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880
Pen BUT i think it's like on the short actions

667
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,000
like nineteen six ounces or something that's pretty pretty. Steel you,

668
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,159
know it has some stuff cut away from it where

669
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,920
it's not that doesn't need, it and they're all straight

670
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,480
so and they don't break the bank. Either well that

671
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:38,639
get them in for under a thousand for.

672
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Sure that's the biggest thing with an action Because I'm

673
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,280
i'm sitting here And i've got To i've got to

674
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,880
purchase an, action like that's the next. Step that's the

675
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,480
next step That i've got to. Do And i'm, LIKE i,

676
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,000
mean you can go with an impact and.

677
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: See like, now like build a match, rifle AND i

678
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,079
do build hunting. RIFLES i got A mbk inpact to

679
00:34:58,159 --> 00:34:59,960
the shop right now that's gonna have a seven perce

680
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:04,480
built on. It, SO i, mean BECAUSE i love impacts of,

681
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,920
Actions oh, yeah they're, great but a lot of, times

682
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,599
like this rifle because of it being a little more

683
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,800
on the budget from each. Side WHEN i build, THEM

684
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,480
i try to keep them like that so when someone

685
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,639
does want to buy, it it's not super high, end right.

686
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,159
Build you, know we've been using THESE bsf barrels for

687
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:27,880
a little while. Now every one of them that we've

688
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,599
built so far Shoots i've had one or two of

689
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:33,440
them that needed thirty or fifty rounds in, it and

690
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,760
then they seem like they came into where they need to.

691
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,639
Be but they've they've been nice and they're not breaking

692
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:41,880
the bank, either you.

693
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: Know, WELL i know there's a lot of Different like

694
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,920
now it seems like carbon, barrels like there's there's a

695
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,119
ton of them out, there because it kind of kind

696
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,639
of started with proof and, right Uh christians and. Arms

697
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:59,079
REALLY i used The bartlin. Carbons, Yeah brooks are Not,

698
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:05,199
brooks uh benchmark carbon helix, Six carbon, Six carbon, Six yeah,

699
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,800
BARRELS i mean so carbon.

700
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: Six i've used a bunch of them because they're right

701
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:09,719
here In.

702
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: Louisiana you.

703
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: Know it's this was kind of built budgetly to so

704
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:19,760
that when guys come, in it doesn't.

705
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't shock, them, right but well.

706
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: We we just recently did like this builder's wall at

707
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,920
the shop where we have actions on display in barrels

708
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,000
and stocks and chassis so that guys can come in

709
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:31,800
and like pick up an action and be, like OH

710
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,320
i like this the way this feels or feel how

711
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,400
light it is instead of it being in a full,

712
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:41,400
rifle you, know just so guys can can check it,

713
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,159
out like in this can WE'VE i couldn't keep them

714
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:46,920
in during hunting. Season they're made By Mike brothers as.

715
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,760
Well it's A zenith titanium. Short it comes with a

716
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,519
break or a cap on, it so it's so it's

717
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,800
it's good for, hunting you know. WHAT i go shoot

718
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:00,760
r s match with. IT i like My maverick from four.

719
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,079
Nineteen you know That that's WHAT i would shoot on

720
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,320
my mate. Rifle but for a hunting rifle, short everybody's

721
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,400
getting to these like they're wanting these barrels shorter and.

722
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,280
Shorter THE nbk is going to be a twenty inch

723
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,119
seven po THAT'S i just finished a twenty inch six y. Five,

724
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:20,239
yeah and then WHEN i go shoot it with, factory

725
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,559
it's like twenty seven eighty feet per, second but still

726
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:28,199
taking that magnum recall off of, it AND i PUT

727
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:30,199
i put a brake on it for. Him but then

728
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,880
after he shot, it he was, like, man that thing's

729
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,360
like a. Grenade go, Yeah And i'm, like, yes, yeah

730
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,039
it's like the difference between a three Inch street fifty

731
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,960
seven and a ten Inch street fifty. Seven big.

732
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: Difference, yeah, right but you got to call us on.

733
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,159
Speaker 2: It, yeah and that's one of my crack up match. Rifles,

734
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,880
Yep Trigger Tech trigger you, know hopefully the tear thing

735
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,280
don't ruin that for, everybody you. KNOW i, mean they're

736
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,119
they're one of The they're one of the only companies

737
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,800
that we of products we build with all the. Time

738
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,719
that's not Us, mate Their. Canadian but they have a

739
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,599
facility now in The United states. Warehouse they're shipping, too

740
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:11,559
AND i think they're trying to get stuff going there,

741
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:13,039
too to be building there as.

742
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: Well but they've been really. Consistent, man The Trigger techs

743
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,400
have is one Thing i've noticed over the, Years like

744
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,599
they're they they're just. Consistent if you you pull a

745
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:28,639
large majority of JUST prs and n r L, a

746
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:32,000
it's very. Consistent AND i, liked you, know look.

747
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: There and that's not to say there isn't other good

748
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,559
stuff out, there you. KNOW i MEAN i like the

749
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,559
bigs And. Andy's i'm built with those that guys. Requested you.

750
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:43,000
Know FOREVER i HAD i put jewels and, everything and

751
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,719
then DURING covid things got hard for them and they

752
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,679
couldn't keep it, going you, Know and NOW i got.

753
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:51,760
It NOW i have three left handed jewels in my.

754
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: Shop really that don't Tell. Ryan he might buy one of,

755
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,800
them just in.

756
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,639
Speaker 2: Case i'm going to probably build him a rifle coming up,

757
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:00,239
Anyway so.

758
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: Oh, really, yeah what's the?

759
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: Building he hasn't said, nothing BUT i Think i'm gonna

760
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,719
build something just to do some testing on Because i'm

761
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,320
interested in this new seven back.

762
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: Country see that one gets me Because i'm, like, MAN

763
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:17,400
i almost want to see what it'll do out of

764
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,480
an eighteen inch. Barrel, like let's go real, short how

765
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,079
short can we?

766
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: Go, yeah they're doing. IT i, mean, horizon those guys

767
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,400
are doing. It they got a sixteen inch when they're

768
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,840
they're really jumping. Around, YEAH i mean and if you

769
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,519
get you, know if you figure it's at this, speed

770
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:35,480
then at sixteen, inches maybe at twenty eight hundred in

771
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,480
stead of three. Thousand that's a lot of standard rifles

772
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:39,719
are that.

773
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,559
Speaker 1: Speed it's kind of, yeah you.

774
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Through eight what twenty six, something you, KNOW i mean

775
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:48,719
that kills all over the, world six all Those BUT

776
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:52,599
i have a barrel that's that someone ordered that they didn't. Use,

777
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,519
really So i'm, like well maybe, Ill SO i got

778
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,360
A reamaru in like two weeks. Ago i'm gonna build

779
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,559
one BECAUSE i want to just do, mean why not

780
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,800
want you, know AND amo has been pretty hard to.

781
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,960
Get we talked about that a couple of years. AGO

782
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,800
i called you AND i actually got picked them up

783
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,599
yesterday a few days. Ago, yeah one of my wholesalers

784
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:13,159
had some on. Allocation so they were, like, yeah.

785
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,079
Speaker 1: Well we have someone on. Hand not a, lot BUT

786
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,079
i mean because it was hard to get, yeah right

787
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:21,280
in the seven back. Country, YEAH i think.

788
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: THAT i hope so BECAUSE i think it's cool that

789
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,800
they're that because like we were talking, about like these

790
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,800
guys really want short barrels because of hunting, suppress, Right and,

791
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:36,960
Look i'm all FOR i do what the customer, wants,

792
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:39,960
right AND i AND i try to help them along

793
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:41,760
that that path and, say well you know this is

794
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:44,960
you're gonna get this or that like that one the

795
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,880
BARREL i, Have i'm gonna probably make it a twenty

796
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,239
two inch to start, with and Then i'll just keep chopping,

797
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,039
down chopping down to just check some different speeds and

798
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:56,760
stuff Because i'm always and me and my buddy THAT

799
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,079
i shoot with all the, time you, know he he

800
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,599
likes speed. Too he's got like six, five three hundred

801
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:05,320
rum we run some one twenty four solids in, it you,

802
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,039
know four thousand feet a second and stuff like, that

803
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:08,400
just to.

804
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,079
Speaker 1: See you. Know and BUT i mean, really oh yeah it,

805
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,559
kills they, Kill, yeah it does speed.

806
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:16,639
Speaker 2: Kills, yeah but In, louisiana you, know we're we're.

807
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: Shootings that's WHY i like going up To oklahoma Or

808
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,159
texas or out, west LIKE i can stretch the capabilities

809
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,840
of what the round is used.

810
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: For, like, yeah that's what's. Purpose But i'm really interested

811
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,000
in that that peak alloy. STUFF i, mean that's just

812
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,559
because we haven't seen anything like that other than THE

813
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:40,000
sig seventy. Seven yeah that that was kind of, similar

814
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:43,119
but you, know a little. Different but yeah it's uh

815
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,960
oh it's. Different, yeah, man but hard to come by, apparently.

816
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,679
RIGHT i, mean, well and you, know the the Thing

817
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,840
I'm i'm looking forward to that seven back country BECAUSE

818
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,000
i kind of got let down by The valkyrie LIKE

819
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,039
i had BECAUSE i happened to BE.

820
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,679
Speaker 1: I was thinking we were going to make it through

821
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,119
this whole podcast without being bringing up the two to

822
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:06,679
two Four. Valkyrie but here we.

823
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: Are that's WHY i Have that's why not why but

824
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,360
one of the reasons WHEN i built. This i'm, like,

825
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,480
WELL i got five thousand to twenty four, bullets SO

826
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:18,199
i might as well build something to shoot them, with

827
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,760
BECAUSE i you, KNOW i got them off with somebody

828
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,840
that had A valkyrie that didn't want to shoot it,

829
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,480
anymore AND i pot all their loading.

830
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:29,159
Speaker 1: Stuffs The valkyrie had a lot of, promise it really, did.

831
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: AND i actually GOT i was In baker At core and,

832
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,800
Uh Jeremy gillen was there and he was shooting the

833
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,760
proto type rifle in the FIRST prs, match like a

834
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,280
one day match to see how it would hold, up you,

835
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,599
know out to a thousand as far as spot and

836
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,400
hits and things like. That and then they actually used

837
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,679
it as The they had two guys tied that day

838
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:51,280
and they used it as to shoot off for.

839
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:51,679
Speaker 1: The for the.

840
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: Win, yeah SO i got to shoot it after the

841
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,599
match was over and. Stuff SO i was super pumped on.

842
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:58,039
That i'm, like, NO i just got to shoot the

843
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,960
first ever of this, right, well that's you know out

844
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,000
there and all this. Stuff and then a customer came

845
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:08,400
into the shop and wanted one built for like mid

846
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,159
RANGE f, Class SO i built him. One and then

847
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,159
eight months later he came in and, SAID i want

848
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:17,360
to sell. It my wife's. Sick he's an older, guy

849
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,639
he's my wife, sick AND i want to sell the.

850
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:21,599
Gun AND i was, like what do you want for?

851
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:23,800
It and when he told, ME i was, like, oh

852
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,159
because it was way less than what he had spent

853
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:28,360
to build. It AND i looked at it as a.

854
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,639
COMPONENT i didn't really want to shoot it so so,

855
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,880
much But i'm, like, WELL i kind of A ZERMAT tl,

856
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:40,039
three you, Know magpul, Chassis like, yeah like the good

857
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:42,800
Mag pul, chassis you, know get parallel and all, this

858
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,440
AND i, said, Yeah i'll buy. That he, goes, well

859
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,960
what about my load and? Stuff BECAUSE i want to

860
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,639
sell it. Too so then we packaged it all in

861
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:54,920
and it was like twenty three pounds of, powder five thousand,

862
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,400
projectiles ten thousand, primers all the dies for the two twenty,

863
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,559
four all the stuff for, it and packaged all. In

864
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,800
So i've been sitting on all this all these two twenty, fours.

865
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: So there's a little resentment.

866
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: There SO i and it's and it was left handed

867
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,920
THAT i built for, him and my wife has left eye.

868
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,800
Dominant so in my mind at the, time the WAY

869
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,840
i justified it was, Well i'll buy it for. Her,

870
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,639
yeah she can shoot it left. Handed that's WHAT i.

871
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: Did all the EVERYTHING i buy, is, oh it's for my,

872
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,199
wife it's for. Her.

873
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah my buddies has a has he's got a son

874
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:30,440
that's eight. Now, yeah and.

875
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,559
Speaker 1: He's buying a lot of guns for his eight year. Old.

876
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: HUH i just finished his sixth custom rifle for his

877
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,719
eight year. Old. No, yeah and that's and he probably

878
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,480
started building them like two years ago or.

879
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: Something, no, kiddy so he's been you've been cranking him.

880
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,360
Out he's keeping.

881
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:48,159
Speaker 2: Business he bought like some company of of used not,

882
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,320
used but new old stock Of remington seven. Hundred, yeah

883
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,559
and just like a handful of old barrels like, that

884
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:59,440
like twelve fifteen. Rifles, yeah he has bought them all different, shorts, longs,

885
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:03,320
mags you, know six eight whatever or two two three boat,

886
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,119
faces all this stuff and just brings him in and

887
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,280
sits them. Down he's, like, okay just we put tape

888
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,719
on him and we, go this one's gonna be, this

889
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,559
this one's gonna be, that this one's gonna be, this this.

890
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,920
One it's, like whenever you get a, chance just through

891
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,199
it and build. It so we so we blueprint that

892
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,840
action and then put. Whatever that's the twenty four inch

893
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:21,920
twenty two creed MORE i just. Finished it was on

894
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,880
one of Those, yeah twenty swift coming around three hundred.

895
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,280
NORMA i mean his son's going to have them. All,

896
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,280
yeah his. Son they wanted to see if he could

897
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,400
shoot the. Norma SO i broke mine over to the

898
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,719
range and the little little guy yea and, uh but

899
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,519
he can. Shoot he kills some some good deer, too and.

900
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:45,320
Uh we put him at three hundred and uh and

901
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,119
he center punched that. Deer that's still deer. Talking so

902
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,199
would you think he, said it's not. Bad it's got

903
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,639
it's got a four nineteen hell fire and, stuff you.

904
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:57,079
Know and he's, like it's not that. Bad AND i, said,

905
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,000
okay you want to go to five. Hundred he's, LIKE

906
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,000
i never shot at five her. BEFORE i, said well

907
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,000
you about. TO i dialed it to five hundred and

908
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:06,880
got him in it and settled him in and paunched.

909
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,559
It his dad said you we're gonna build one of.

910
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: Those, yeah, okay see THAT'S i feel, like Maniacle arms

911
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,679
needs to have just a range day and go, okay

912
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,360
here's this. Gun and then oh, yeah we're gonna build that. Gun,

913
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,719
yeah oh, no here building and they now want that.

914
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,039
Speaker 2: One it tacks me Because i've had guys come in

915
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:26,719
that that have built stuff and bring your wife with

916
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,440
him or whatever and go to the range to shoot

917
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,559
what they got, built and and their wife's standing. There i'm, like, well,

918
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:34,639
hey you want to shoot, This and we always put

919
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,159
them at five hundred and they're, like that's way down

920
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:39,800
there and five football field and you can do, that you,

921
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,000
know and then they sit. Down of, course women always shoot.

922
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: Good they alwayshoot.

923
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: Better, yeah always shoot, better especially at the, beginning and

924
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,960
they always hanging in. That you see him light, up

925
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,320
And i'm like that right. THERE i did that for

926
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,239
one guy that he built two rifles for his wife

927
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,119
because she's going to matches with him and.

928
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:56,599
Speaker 1: Stuff you, know that's, cool that's.

929
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: Awesome that's a good way to spend time with.

930
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: It it, is it. Is. Yeah. YEAH i always Hear

931
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,719
chris's stories about traveling the country with his family shooting

932
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,320
matches and, stuff and he said it was like the

933
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,280
best time of my. Life he, goes it was. Awesome

934
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,320
we were all together doing something we. Loved. Yeah, yeah

935
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,119
it's a good way to do.

936
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,519
Speaker 2: It, yeah mine used to sit and cheerlead for me at,

937
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:17,559
matches but she. Did she didn't want to shoot too much.

938
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: Pressure, yeah oh, yeah.

939
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,519
Speaker 2: She'd probably DO f class would be okay, first a

940
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:24,840
little more, mellow it's. Mellow BUT prs she was, like absolutely,

941
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,880
not no.

942
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: Way we tell her to go watch AN nrl geeve

943
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,000
the wheels come off yard cell. Everywhere all, RIGHT i

944
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,400
think that's. It we'll have you back because, YEAH i,

945
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,920
mean ONCE i start putting all the stuff together and

946
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,039
we build, it we'll get back on here and show.

947
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:42,119
Speaker 2: It.

948
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Right all, Right gun, talk, hunters you know what to.

949
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,440
Do those barrels point in a safe. Direction