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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Pod Save America.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm John Favrum, I'm John Love It Tommy Detur.

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<v Speaker 1>On today's show, We're going to break down the new

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<v Speaker 1>gold standard New York Times poll that shows Democrats opening

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven point lead in the midterms. Let's have that

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<v Speaker 1>election today. Huh please hurry up. We'll also talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how Trump's revenge tour came for a Louisiana seditor Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Cassidy and is coming for Congressman Thomas Massey and Tuesday's

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky primary. There's also some fresh new corruption to discuss,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's new taxpayer funded two billion dollar slush fund he'll

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<v Speaker 1>use to reward his favorite criminals, and revelations that he's

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<v Speaker 1>basically been day trading in his spare time thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred stock trades in just three months. That's so many trades,

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<v Speaker 1>so many trades.

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<v Speaker 2>Advice, just put it in an index.

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<v Speaker 1>N just kidding. Yeah. We also got a new Iran

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<v Speaker 1>Taco brewing and renewed interest in Cuba and Greenland, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just one of the reasons. We'll also dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the latest debate over how much Democrats and commentators should

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about old Man Trump losing.

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<v Speaker 2>His marbles speaking old man check out four US. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just gonna sit here with this. Guy's got his

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<v Speaker 2>fucking this fucking nerds got his glasses off waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>For you to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and the Republican Party have been shitting the

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<v Speaker 1>bed in nearly every poll for the last few months,

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<v Speaker 1>But now Nate Cohne and the New York Times have

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<v Speaker 1>come down from the mountaintop with a stone tablet that

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<v Speaker 1>confirms how screwed they are. Trump's approvals at thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>percent in their new poll. That is a record low

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<v Speaker 1>for him and for both terms in all New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times Siena polls and midterm voters also favored Democrats by

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<v Speaker 1>eleven points fifty to thirty nine percent over Republicans. President's

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<v Speaker 1>biggest liability in the poll remains his handling of the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living, which his political strategists keep hoping he'll

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<v Speaker 1>pretend to care about his evidenced by Monday's White House

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<v Speaker 1>event on his discount drug website, trump RX. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>how it went.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, outside of maybe a cure itself, it's the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest thing to happen to healthcare and everything having to

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<v Speaker 4>do with medical and any in any way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 2>There's never been anything like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Really sold it. Huh what did that really sold it?

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<v Speaker 1>Trump RX is the biggest thing in meda medical.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest thing in medical, biggest thing in medical. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tell because there's a doctor here.

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<v Speaker 3>You could tell you didn't like the event because he

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<v Speaker 3>cut it really short, because it kind of looked like

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<v Speaker 3>it looked like Ted X Toledo or something. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just like Joe Gebbi in front of a giant screen.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing was embarrassing. Mark Cuban was there. Trump OURX.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it's not a platform for buying medications.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that it's just it's a facilitator. You

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<v Speaker 1>go to the website, it directs you to the other

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<v Speaker 1>websites to buy the drugs, and sometimes it gives you coupons,

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<v Speaker 1>just redirects you. Yeah, basically, and then and then Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>and cubans thing what's what's his thing called cost plus

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<v Speaker 1>drug cost plus drugs. You know, they work with the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government to have some discounts on some extra drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>But also if you have insurance doesn't help you, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>it's cheaper to buy the drugs if you have insurance

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<v Speaker 1>because the insurance covers the drugs. So really it's for

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<v Speaker 1>people who don't have insurance sometimes get some discounts on

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<v Speaker 1>some drugs. So it's not a bad thing. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a it's not weird, it's not it's certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing since medical No. What stood on to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys in the New York Times poll.

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever we're talking about a poll that looks good

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<v Speaker 2>for Democrats, you got to go down and find the

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<v Speaker 2>part where it's terrible for Democrats. And there's a this

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<v Speaker 2>was a new one. I think they said, are you

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<v Speaker 2>satisfied or dissatisfied? With the Democratic Party. And I'm used

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<v Speaker 2>to seeing that voters maybe really unhappy with Republicans and

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<v Speaker 2>planning to vote for Democrats, but then are ultimately not

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<v Speaker 2>super satisfied with Democrats either. I was surprised to see that, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>seven percent of people say they are dissatisfied with the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party and only five percent are very satisfied, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a third of the number of people that are

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<v Speaker 2>very satisfied with Trump. And I get being look, Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>are in power. This is representing people that hate Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>It's represented by people that wish Democrats would fight more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's represented by Democrats. Everyboney who has a criticism of

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats represented in that number. But the fact that.

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<v Speaker 1>Where would you be in that when someone asks you

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would be somewhat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm unsatisfied, baby, I'm unsatisfied.

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<v Speaker 1>And then but then when they gave me the generic

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<v Speaker 1>ballot thing, I'd be a percent right there.

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<v Speaker 2>But just the fact that, like right now, if this whole, big,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful country of ours, there's only five percent of people

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<v Speaker 2>that just love the Democratic Party. Like we talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about the base, it's like we don't really have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Trump has a base.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, who are those people?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Who are those five percent? I love everything they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait to see them on tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Like some of some of the staffers. Maybe I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know relatives, a couple of folks on Blue Sky h.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So anyway, that was that's what stood

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<v Speaker 1>out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it up to me. And then there was there

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<v Speaker 2>was a number on AI that I thought was just

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<v Speaker 2>interesting that only sixteen percent of people think AI is

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<v Speaker 2>more good than bad. The vast majority are either undecided

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<v Speaker 2>or think it's more bad than good.

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<v Speaker 3>So it comes in a weekend where there's all these

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<v Speaker 3>commencement addresses where students are booing the mere mention of

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<v Speaker 3>AI to speak, which I love. You can tell there's

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<v Speaker 3>a some of my foot there. Yes there is, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there is, Tommy. Would you think I liked that? I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked that. I noticed that sixty four percent in

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<v Speaker 3>the Times pool said they think that going to war

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<v Speaker 3>with Rom was the wrong decision, including seventy three percent

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<v Speaker 3>of Independence. That is pretty clear cut. And it's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to get better as this thing kind of drags

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<v Speaker 3>out and the straight up home moves remains closed and

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<v Speaker 3>the price of gas goes up seventy six percent. Rate

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<v Speaker 3>economic conditions today is only fair or poor.

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<v Speaker 1>That is quite bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know the glass half full thing of

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<v Speaker 3>the Democratic Party was fifty percent say they will vote Democrat,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty nine percent say they will vote Republican in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's one of the better numbers of that nature.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've seen in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been saying Trump bad for so long now that

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<v Speaker 1>when there's a poll this bad, it's sort of hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like there's a there's a crying wolf thing, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or like, you know, not Trump's I mean, Trump's always

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<v Speaker 1>been bad, but like this is it for Trump things

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<v Speaker 1>that the walls are closing in. But Nate Cone points

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<v Speaker 1>out in his ride up of the poll, no president's

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<v Speaker 1>approval rating has been under thirty eight percent for more

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<v Speaker 1>than a few days in the last seventeen years, according

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<v Speaker 1>to our average. Now we get Donald Trump, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he realized seventeen years is George W. Bush, which just

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<v Speaker 1>makes us really old. But that is the last president

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<v Speaker 1>to be this unpopular for this long, Like it is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that this is this is worse than January sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>Now for him.

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<v Speaker 3>The economic indicator is just so bad. I mean, seventy

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<v Speaker 3>six percent say they're concerned about their personal finance. Since

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<v Speaker 3>the CBS bowl, sixty seven percent say they're stressed, Like

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<v Speaker 3>both of those have been ticked up at the last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Only twenty nine percent in the CBS the recent CBS

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<v Speaker 3>pulse of the economy is good. Seventy seven percent say

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah to me, you look at it too. What's hidden

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<v Speaker 2>You could look at this poll and it's basically almost half,

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<v Speaker 2>not quite half the country. They don't approve on Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>of living, they don't prove on immigration. They are done.

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<v Speaker 2>And the number of people who now say Trump has

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<v Speaker 2>personally made their economic circumstances worse forty four percent, which

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<v Speaker 2>has gone up by like eight points. It's the last time,

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<v Speaker 2>longer saying just I don't just disapprove, like I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 2>One other things that said out just about what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>internet debates about, you know, the anti Semitism and anti

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<v Speaker 2>Zionism and the Democrat's position on Israel. Meanwhile, opposition to

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<v Speaker 2>economic military sport to Israel has gone from thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>a half to three year. Support has gone from fifty

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<v Speaker 1>And so a lot of numbers Trump's approval and so

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of hand or support for Israel, financial aid,

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<v Speaker 1>as Donald Trump in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is not an argument that's being lost

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<v Speaker 2>on the margins. And it's not an argument that's being

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<v Speaker 2>lost based on who gets platformed and who doesn't. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a huge shift that has happened. I think you can

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<v Speaker 2>lay that at the feet of Benjamin and Yaho and

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden and Donald Trump. But the sooner people make

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<v Speaker 2>this less about the specific individuals they dislike, often with

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<v Speaker 2>good reason, and more about the deeper shift that is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationship with ISRUMK Yeah, I mean actually has write a

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<v Speaker 1>being directed towards members of Congress and voicemails and threats

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, and it's it's horrible, And I would

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<v Speaker 1>just say that like it, I do think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to separate like like virulent anti semitism from people who

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<v Speaker 1>like we I think we talked about this last week.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Josh Gotnheimer's op ed about anti semitism, and

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<v Speaker 1>my party has a problem too, Like it starts with

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly veers into Oh and also Democrats are voting against funding,

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<v Speaker 3>That's that should not be in the same op ed

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<v Speaker 3>well and says that he wants to wean off military

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, right, I wish I would say. The only

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<v Speaker 1>generic ballot. There's real movement just within the Times poll right,

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<v Speaker 1>because every poll is it's a single pole snapshot in time.

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<v Speaker 1>But you take a poll over time and it was

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<v Speaker 1>D plus two to D plus five for the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's D plus eleven, Like it's a big shift.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they take it to only almost certain

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<v Speaker 1>or very likely voters, it's D plus fourteen. So even

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<v Speaker 1>that D plus eleven is like, may not be what

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<v Speaker 1>we ultimately see because you know, the most motivated voters

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<v Speaker 1>in a general election. So that's it's pretty big, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's late. May you know, not a ton of time left?

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<v Speaker 3>Knock on? Would yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, look Trump still it was time to

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<v Speaker 1>The bigger news from the White House on Monday was

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<v Speaker 1>the announcement that President Trump's Justice Department is settling Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's lawsuit against the IRS for one point seven seven

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<v Speaker 1>six billion dollars. Get it, get it, get it. That

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<v Speaker 1>is money that will be taken directly from taxpayers and

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<v Speaker 1>funneled into a slush fund that apparently exists to pay

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<v Speaker 1>Trump supporters who were investigated or indicted or convicted during

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration, or I guess none of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's really no guardrails whatsoever. It seems like they

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<v Speaker 1>did this so Trump wouldn't be attacked for directly pocketing taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure this move is as clever as

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<v Speaker 1>they think. What about you, guys?

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<v Speaker 3>This is particularly like this is a Trump's second term

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<v Speaker 3>is a political smash and grab job where he and

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<v Speaker 3>his family and the people around him and people do

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<v Speaker 3>his bidding, just take what they want, get rewarded. They

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<v Speaker 3>take it from taxpayers, They trade on polymarket, they front

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<v Speaker 3>run the stock market. And I think the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is doing this before the mid terms just shows

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<v Speaker 3>that he doesn't give a shit about politics anymore. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all about money, and it's all about building monuments to

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<v Speaker 3>himself and great shating, you know which, enriching himself. And

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<v Speaker 3>they made an end run around the judge in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>and they just cut a deal with another political appointee

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<v Speaker 3>that he had named to create the slush fund. And

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<v Speaker 3>do you think they thought it was cute saying it

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<v Speaker 3>was one point seven seven six? Doesn't that just make

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing feel like made up and arbitrary more

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<v Speaker 3>than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>They think it's like, oh, we've got patriotism in America's

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty is coming up, and so if we call

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<v Speaker 1>it a patriotic fund for patriots, then no one will

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<v Speaker 1>no one will get mad at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Shouldn't a fund to pay out restitution to people harmed

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<v Speaker 3>be based on like metrics.

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<v Speaker 2>And not the number coming from someone with how many

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<v Speaker 2>how much earnings did you lose when you were at

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<v Speaker 2>the Capitol on January sixth?

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<v Speaker 1>When you're right, you know, I will say Congress passed

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<v Speaker 1>a law to give the Department of Justice basically on

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<v Speaker 1>unlimited fund for restitution for anyone who sues the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's how they ended up doing this. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it is a one of those technically legal

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<v Speaker 1>but extremely corrupt things that we have because of a

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<v Speaker 1>stupid law that was passed that no one. No one

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<v Speaker 1>thought to themselves, maybe they'll be an administration that just

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<v Speaker 1>has the fund being unlimited because the president will sue himself,

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<v Speaker 1>will sue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unversed in fairness to people that wrote that law.

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<v Speaker 2>You would also assume that if it were to be

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<v Speaker 2>so completely and obviously embrazenly abused by a president who's

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<v Speaker 2>basically just going into the treasury and stuffing his pockets

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<v Speaker 2>and leaving that there might be a Congress that would

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<v Speaker 2>care about that, which we we don't have. Just like

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<v Speaker 2>to Tommy's point, the judge was like, Hey, before this

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuit by Trump against his own imaministration, which is unprecedented,

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<v Speaker 2>that's being administered by his personal attorney, former personal attorney

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<v Speaker 2>at the Department of Justice, I want you to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and explain to me how you're actually parties in opposition,

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<v Speaker 2>how you're not on the same side of this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, this is like in the deadline's May twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when now it's May eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically proving the point that the judge was worried about. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they have decided to reach a reach a deal beforehand.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the Justice Department, Uh, if it was actually advocating

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of taxpayers, the American people, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to do, it would fight this thing to

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<v Speaker 2>the bidder end, or at the very least settle for

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<v Speaker 2>zero dollars, which has happened in not exactly similar but

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<v Speaker 2>cases that are akin to this in the past. But

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<v Speaker 2>instead of doing this, yeah, doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Exattle the same case, his taxpayer info was leaked and

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<v Speaker 1>he settled for zero zero a public apology from the IRS.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he didn't pay and you know that is a

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<v Speaker 2>that is something that could have come of this, but

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<v Speaker 2>it said no. They are proving that they are in

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<v Speaker 2>cahoots here by doing this kind of a settlement we have.

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<v Speaker 2>They're using a ridiculous justification based on something they happen

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<v Speaker 2>in the Obama administration, which even conservative legal scholars have

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<v Speaker 2>have have batted down because that had actual specific people

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<v Speaker 2>who were harmed by an actual specific policy, un like this.

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<v Speaker 2>My pitch is James Comy, Tiss, James Lamonica mcg ivor

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa Cook, Jerome Powell. They should all be submitting when

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<v Speaker 2>this thing comes out, they should put their names in

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<v Speaker 2>to get money from this fund and if they do

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<v Speaker 2>not receive affair hearing, they should sue the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there are people that are being politically prosecuted by

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<v Speaker 2>the government. As far as we know publicly, nobody on

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<v Speaker 2>that list would not be kind of at least potentially

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<v Speaker 2>it included in the people hurt that could receive from

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<v Speaker 1>My pitch is, no one gets it. Give us the

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>To beic clear, I don't think James Comy should get

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<v Speaker 2>money from the thorough government, but I think we should

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<v Speaker 2>take this put this thing through its pace.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fuck it. Yeah, well they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Trump appoints the board, it's five people, he

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<v Speaker 1>thing doesn't even have to be like oh and here

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<v Speaker 1>was my case and it was tried incorrectly. Like someone

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<v Speaker 1>the commission and be like, hey, I want ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Biden sent the FBI after me. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have proof of that? No, but I just know they

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy that, I mean, like this is it's just

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<v Speaker 2>they're at the point where they're just saying, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take money from the treasury, give it to whoever, give

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<v Speaker 1>People just don't care who are maybe criminals. To let

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else know that if you commit a crime on

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's behalf, not only do you not go to jail,

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<v Speaker 1>but perhaps you might get some compensation for it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That He was asked at the pres Commerce today, could

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<v Speaker 2>this potentially go to people who committed violence in January sixth?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, Oh, it's going to be up to the committee. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>those people would be eligible. Could totally receive money from

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<v Speaker 2>this one. He pretends he doesn't know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it's a danger going forward too, as we're heading

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<v Speaker 1>into twenty twenty eight and Donald Trump and Jade Vance

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<v Speaker 1>whoever the fuck it is, tries to stay in the

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think they're gonna think They're gonna be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>get paid. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Trump allies getting away with crimes, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys make of Jared Polis, governor of Colorado, Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>commuting the prison sentence of election denier Tina Peters. She

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<v Speaker 1>is the former county clerk from Mesa County, Colorado. She

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<v Speaker 1>was in jail for orchestrating a security breach of her

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<v Speaker 1>county's voting system. Trump has been publicly and privately pressuring

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<v Speaker 1>Polus to pardon her completely. They also tried to like

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<v Speaker 1>transfer her from state prison to federal prison so that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump could pardon her. Didn't do that. But now Polus

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<v Speaker 1>has commuted her sentence. He was sentenced to nine years.

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<v Speaker 1>He cut it to four and a half years, with

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<v Speaker 1>parole next month.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to be honest. I know this is not

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<v Speaker 3>a great answer for the purposes of a talk show.

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<v Speaker 3>I just couldn't give less of a shit. I know

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<v Speaker 3>people are like outraged about this. I read jvl's long

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<v Speaker 3>piece on this. I don't give a shit. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I have so much to be outraged or to worry about.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't even get myself to engage with this person.

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<v Speaker 3>I might even go a step further. I think Polus

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<v Speaker 3>might have done the right thing. Sentence down.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, or I gotta go excuse me, boys, if you

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<v Speaker 2>an email, be at the fucking bullwork where the real

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<v Speaker 2>lives are now go on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I don't feel strongly. I'm more into I'm

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<v Speaker 1>closer to Tommy's camp. But like, here's the thing. She

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to nine years, right, so she's a non

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<v Speaker 1>violent first time offender, and three appellate judges who were

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<v Speaker 1>appointed by a Democrat. They were Democratic judges. They all

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<v Speaker 1>just ruled that they threw out the sentence, the nine

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<v Speaker 1>year sentence, so that was never going to happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>they recently threw it out. Is because they thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the judge, basically, in giving her a nine year sentence

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to a smaller sentence, violated her free speech rights,

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<v Speaker 1>because the judge basically said, the reason I'm making your

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<v Speaker 1>sentence longer is because you spouted election conspiracy theory, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a horrible thing to do, spouting elections conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is protective First Amendment speech. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have to be consistent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, but that's but hold on, hold on. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate that. But we understand that if someone were to say,

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<v Speaker 2>hit somebody with their car and then publicly say that

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<v Speaker 2>bitch deserved it, that that is free speech of the

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<v Speaker 2>right to say that. But it does potentially inform the sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry does it?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it does. Of course, we allow remorse in

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<v Speaker 2>people's uh uh uh motivations and feelings about the crimes

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<v Speaker 2>they committed, what they've learned from it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the well she was she was, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>the no remorse thing was already factored in because she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't she she was not remorseful right when she was sentenced.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what he didn't say, you didn't show remorse,

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<v Speaker 1>He said, it's because you have these these theories, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just first that there are we take people's uh uh

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<v Speaker 2>motivations and and and expressions. I agree that people are

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<v Speaker 2>the right to believe elections are stolen. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit more than just first continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I guess I'm saying, if we believe that that

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<v Speaker 1>there is an incarceration problem in this country, and that

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<v Speaker 1>people are incarcerated for too long, and that prison is

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<v Speaker 1>it is a deterrent, and yes, people should be jailed

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<v Speaker 1>and they should be kept from society, but that unusually

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<v Speaker 1>long sentences are bad, especially for first time non violent offenders,

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<v Speaker 1>Like don't we have to extend that belief to people

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<v Speaker 1>whose political beliefs we detest.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say the answer is we should allow

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<v Speaker 2>a process to play out that she would have been

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<v Speaker 2>re sentence. Why is why did this become a big

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<v Speaker 2>public controversy? It is because the President United States is

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<v Speaker 2>publicly pressuring the governor of Colorado to commute Tina peter sentence. Now, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I am sure Jared Poulis would say that the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with it. Obviously the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump was threatening Colorado unless he did something right.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump was saying this woman should be pardoned. He

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<v Speaker 2>is saying it's some kind of press pushback against Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's only a commutation. I like, she has kind

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<v Speaker 2>of done the bare minimum of acknowledging that what she

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<v Speaker 2>did was wrong. But if you go to her Twitter feed,

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<v Speaker 2>her allies were saying as recently as I believe last week,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go look the exact timing that if

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<v Speaker 2>Trump that if that, if Tina Peters isn't released, Trump

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<v Speaker 2>should invade the state of Colorado. It is a non violent.

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<v Speaker 1>Effen Yeah, I mean, I don't think that should happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, but it just it goes to like the

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<v Speaker 2>the the reason somebody who even commits a Look, there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of first time offenders who do something

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<v Speaker 2>that are part of a that are part of something

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<v Speaker 2>so dangerous that you have to say, wait a second, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>is a non violent offense. But it goes to the

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<v Speaker 2>core of what we are a society or the safety

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<v Speaker 2>of our democracy, and so he has given into that

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<v Speaker 2>pressure from Trump rather than let the process play out.

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<v Speaker 2>So that I think is like a huge problem. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it just I don't know that we'd be having this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation if if Donald Trump hadn't personally intervened to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get the governor to do something, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>seems as though he did it.

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<v Speaker 3>After listening to this thoughtful debate, I still don't give

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<v Speaker 3>a shit, you know, I might care less actually than one.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that it is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that it's yeah, it's more interesting to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and that like I think that I think he might

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<v Speaker 1>have been the right thing. I do think. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to hear Jared Poulis answer the question why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you just wait for the resentencing of the three appellate judges?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what made you not want to just wait for

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<v Speaker 1>their decision if they were going to throw out the

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<v Speaker 1>sentence anyway? I would like to know that question.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd also say too that the Republican prosecutor was against

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<v Speaker 2>this and said that you should talk to the people

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<v Speaker 2>that were impacted by Tina Peters schemes before you'd make

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<v Speaker 2>the decisions the.

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<v Speaker 1>Cost prosecutor or well that's how prosecutors are, but community.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there's also a defendive and plag guilty to

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<v Speaker 1>almost the same charges in the Georgia Rico case and

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced no time and probation. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, there's all kinds of unfairnesses and unequal

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<v Speaker 2>application of sentences all across the country all the time. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that if that were the case, you go and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>well there's somebody else who was given less. You can

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<v Speaker 2>commute most most sentences that way.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think look, in.

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<v Speaker 1>This one computed it. It wasn't just her he commuted

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's like thirty five or fifty commutations

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that in the same day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he has the answer for whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>he gave into Trump's political pressure. And we are in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment where like Donald Trump is threatening elections again,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is a grave threat to the republic. Why

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<v Speaker 2>does our generosity, our sense of justice, our our empathy

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<v Speaker 2>turned for Tina Peters when there are so many others

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<v Speaker 2>who have who deserve it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. Yeah, And I don't think it should. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it should I don't think we should give

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<v Speaker 1>be generous or empathetic at all. I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, what is the what is the standard?

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<v Speaker 1>Like is there a process to reach the decision? And

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't meet a standard? I do think that like

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<v Speaker 1>criticizing polls for it is completely fine, Like you can

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<v Speaker 1>criticize them for it, you can say it's fine. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people are and people who I like in politics too

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<v Speaker 1>and support or like calling for his impeachment over this,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I don't. I just I do not

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<v Speaker 1>think it rises to the level.

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<v Speaker 3>Of everybody's at nine all the time these days.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get there. I can get there, I can

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<v Speaker 1>get I can get to like your criticism, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get to he should be impeached over this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys saw that. Trump's latest

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<v Speaker 1>financial disclosures show that he and or his financial advisors

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<v Speaker 1>made more than thirty seven hundred stock trades in the

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<v Speaker 1>first quarter of this year, bought one million dollars each

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<v Speaker 1>in companies with business before his administration, like Nvidia, Oracle, Microsoft, Boeing,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pallenteer, which he bought right before he praised the

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<v Speaker 1>company on truth social in a post that, if you recall,

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<v Speaker 1>even included the company's tick our symbol. Now, I know

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<v Speaker 1>this may look suspicious, but the White House did say

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump's asked that are in a blind trust man

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<v Speaker 1>by his children, so there are quote no conflicts of interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems fine, right?

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<v Speaker 3>This is did they really I thought there was no

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<v Speaker 3>blind trust. I thought they had already previously said there

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't a blind either way managed your children.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a blind trust that doesn't yet that's not howl like.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, this is part of the political smash and grab job.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're making money everywhere. It's this is crazy

650
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<v Speaker 3>like so, Bloomberg reported Trump had trades that involved Tesla, Nvidia, Apple, Meta,

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<v Speaker 3>Visa City, Boeing, Qualcom, and ge Top Executives from all

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<v Speaker 3>of those companies were on his trip to Beijing to

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<v Speaker 3>meet with Chinese President Chijinbang. So you don't think he's

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<v Speaker 3>getting insider information having that access, talking to them, cutting

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<v Speaker 3>deals with them. Some of the stock trades included up

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<v Speaker 3>to six hundred and eighty grand worth of Eli Lilly.

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<v Speaker 3>Right as the administration was preparing policies that would benefit

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<v Speaker 3>their GLP one business, he took a huge position a

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<v Speaker 3>couple huge positions in Nvidia right before they announced major news.

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<v Speaker 3>There was one five million dollar position a week before

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<v Speaker 3>they announced a partnership with Meta. Then there was a

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<v Speaker 3>half a million to a million dollar position a week

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<v Speaker 3>before the Commerce Department announced some you know, determinations to

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<v Speaker 3>do with Nvidia. They're buying and selling Intel stock, which

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<v Speaker 3>the US government took a ten percent stake in the company.

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<v Speaker 3>This is insanity.

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<v Speaker 1>He's such a incident.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Pelosi somewhere is like, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>I could have been doing this so much better.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're sort of pat every single Jesus. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Kramer, Now do you see the clip of.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Can we drop it in here?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's drop it in The president's been trading some Intel

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<v Speaker 2>in the quarter. Yeah, yeah, I put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you need to trade you got nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah yeah, whoo yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, don't worry. We're not having technical difficulties here, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>What's funny about the Jim Kramer clip is that it's

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<v Speaker 2>like people are like, oh, wow, he's so he's stammering

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<v Speaker 2>because he can't figure out what to say about this.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I was watching it was like, is he

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<v Speaker 2>stammering because he can't forget to say about this or

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<v Speaker 2>is he making a joke about how it's so beyond

685
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>the payout? But he doesn't want to be critical of

686
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<v Speaker 2>Trump in this moment.

687
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't know what what? What are we?

688
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<v Speaker 1>What are we?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he stammering? He knows what's going on but

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<v Speaker 2>head But we're no live in rent free inside of

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Kramer's head. But the like there, we're at a

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<v Speaker 2>new level of brazen corruption because every step along the way,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody has stopped him to get to this point, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like he can't. The thing that I find stunning about

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<v Speaker 2>all this is that there's no like the level of

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<v Speaker 2>brazenness is going up, but the dollar amount isn't. Always

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<v Speaker 2>it's like why are we doing five hundred grand stock trades?

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<v Speaker 2>Billion dollar crypto theft and the watches? Like why like

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<v Speaker 2>why you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that bothers me.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it's just all of it's like left over

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<v Speaker 1>from the old world, right you had to just do

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00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>corruption well, like the watch, the hotel rings, we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>you the Trump phones, but they're not coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that part doesn't make sense. But the aggregate stock

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<v Speaker 3>trades was a range between two hundred and eleven and

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00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 3>six hundred and eighty seven million dollars, So that's a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also like the just the volume of trading. Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed this guy, Eric Dighton, who's the president manager director

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<v Speaker 1>at at the Wealth Alliance, and he said, I'm baffled.

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<v Speaker 1>In the forty plus years of my time on Wall Street,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an unusual amount of trading by any standards.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to see the actual trades to try and

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<v Speaker 1>understand why anyone would want to do that much trading.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is just like the practical, like the practical

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<v Speaker 2>way in which this is being done. Like is there

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<v Speaker 2>a team that is doing this? Is it suns through

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<v Speaker 2>their Like it feels like they've got like like Christopher

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<v Speaker 2>Malta Sante trying to like push what this days Like

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00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>he's got like some fucking back office in New Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere with computers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just Baron Trump in the outer Oval with a

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<v Speaker 3>shitload of adderall and like the experien Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like minority reporting it like I can see the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's going to happen at the Commerce meeting

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<v Speaker 2>next week. I know that I have the BLS down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just because he's got the briefing book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but again, they took like seven transactions related to Boeing,

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<v Speaker 3>one between one to five million dollars. Like the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>deliverable of the China trip was to get the Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>to buy a bunch of Boeing planes. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>the announcement was so underwhelming that the stock went down

734
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<v Speaker 3>because they did a shitty job. And we're still uses

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<v Speaker 3>proof that c we see it was a good announcement.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, you got it, tried to trade on

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<v Speaker 3>inside information. It just turns out you suck at diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You're good at the crimes, you're bad diplomacy to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>on that show, all right. So Trump's also doing his

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00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>best to drag the Republican Party down with him. On Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>he sent yet another message that dissent will not be

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<v Speaker 1>tolerated when his chosen primary challenger, Congressman Julia Letlow, took

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<v Speaker 1>out Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, who sin was voting to

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<v Speaker 1>convict Trump in the January sixth impeachment trial. Cassidy went

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<v Speaker 1>down in flames. He got third in Louisiana's primary, the

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<v Speaker 1>first time an incumbent senator has come in lower than

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<v Speaker 1>second place since nineteen forty four. Trump's next target is

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Massey, who's trying to unseat in Tuesday's Kentucky primary.

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<v Speaker 1>Massy has been the strongest and kind of the only

751
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<v Speaker 1>Republican in the House, breaking with Trump on Epstein, Iran

752
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and the Big Beautiful Bill. Trump has been posting about

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<v Speaker 1>Massey NonStop. I think right before recorded he did like

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<v Speaker 1>a a video from the Oval, which is very legal

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00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and normal, Uh, to just to just tell people to

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<v Speaker 1>vote against Thomas Massey.

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<v Speaker 2>We worried run the midterms on the Hatch actuy, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he's he's grabbing the two billion dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>his slush fund and then trading on Nvidio and Boeing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Pete Hegseth was doing an event in Kentucky today.

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<v Speaker 3>His personal capacity and his personal capacity. And then Trump

763
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<v Speaker 3>announces that he's delayed an imminent military assault on Iran

764
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<v Speaker 3>that was supposed to happen tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was Peka to do?

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<v Speaker 3>This seems like bad timing. Becus like you need him

767
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<v Speaker 3>for that.

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00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't. Maybe maybe who's gonna drink the boots

769
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<v Speaker 1>to early to say what will happen in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the Massi race. But it certainly seems like Massy himself

771
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<v Speaker 1>is staying loose.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>He is on Sunday doing his best Trump impression.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever, call him. I got a schedule a minute for

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing.

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00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 4>He tells me every time I call him, Messy your shot, Cookie,

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<v Speaker 4>You went to m I T You know, my uncle

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<v Speaker 4>is Professor John G.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump. He was in one years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a record.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I'm into work, which is basically the

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<v Speaker 4>hardest school.

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<v Speaker 3>In the world too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's terrible. You know, I kind of wanted to lose

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00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.159
<v Speaker 1>now that was. I was rooting for him until just

786
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:25.199
<v Speaker 1>then He's going for it, you know, put that accent

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<v Speaker 1>Trump depression. You know, don't don't do it unless you

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<v Speaker 1>really feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just too many people doing it and it's too

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00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 2>too it's too big a target.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. Anyone have thoughts on the primary? Yeah, look, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>On Bill Cassidy? Like fuck that guy, you know, like

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00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.679
<v Speaker 3>he thought he could like appease Maga by voting for

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<v Speaker 3>Robert of Kennedy Junr and ended up kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>selling his soul and his credentials as a doctor and

797
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 3>being worst of all worlds. And he knew better and

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00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:53.800
<v Speaker 3>we know it because he told us as much before

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00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 3>he flip flopped. And so would I rather have him

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<v Speaker 3>in the Senate than his replacement, Yes, I would, But

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately I don't think it'll make a big difference. Thomas

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00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Massey is a different story. Like he's the reason we

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<v Speaker 3>have the Epstein files because he worked with Rocana to

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<v Speaker 3>get him released. He's a principal vote against wars and

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00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 3>militarism and lots of other things. I don't agree with

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00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 3>him on everything, and on you know, like you don't

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<v Speaker 3>share the same worldview. I don't send out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas cards with me and my kids with machine guns

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00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 3>like I think he did one time. But yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it would be a big loss. And I think it

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<v Speaker 3>tells you everything you need to know about Donald Trump's

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00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 3>political worldview that he will not lift a finger to

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00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 3>help his party build, but he will take down anyone

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00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.599
<v Speaker 3>who criticizes him. It's all about punishing his own critics

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00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.559
<v Speaker 3>and the culture personality and protecting his personal power and

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00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.559
<v Speaker 3>not about the party or doing anything right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's far more passionate about defeating his enemies

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<v Speaker 2>than he is about helping his friends. Yeah, with Cassidy,

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00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 2>you go back to that, to him approving RFK Junior

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<v Speaker 2>and accepting his fake assurances and his private meetings, pretending

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<v Speaker 2>that RFK didn't believe what he obviously believed in Like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't sell half your soul.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not divide him. They're not divisible in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And so these guys that end up being reluctantly for Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't. They're not better politicians. They're just worse whores.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, So, are you know good Rid's I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this is there's a lot being made

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<v Speaker 1>because we had Indiana and then Cassidy and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then Massy. But this is sort of the last gasp

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<v Speaker 1>of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well what are you like?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Trump's last midterms, right, and do we think

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to spend He's going to be spending time

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eight going around doing primary trologies? They maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but like also does it lose its force at some point?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that Trump's like he's already a lame duck, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he clearly has the juice to do it now, but

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<v Speaker 1>as we get to twenty eight and then beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>like what is this is what we learned from that?

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00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, he's a vindictive prick who only cares about himself.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and I think we also learned that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the nothing's breaking, the fever in the

845
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<v Speaker 1>little because now you've got angry Cassidy who's still got

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<v Speaker 1>votes left to take between now and the end of

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<v Speaker 1>And I do wonder now, between now and November, if

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<v Speaker 1>this makes it like harder for Republicans to break away

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<v Speaker 1>from Trump even though primaries are over, because they'll they're

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just Look, it remains sort of extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Bill Cassidy like, uh could not persuade his own voters.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a bit since we talked about the stalemate

907
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>in Iran. Trump posted on Sunday that quote, the clock

908
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:09.159
<v Speaker 1>is ticking for Iran to make a deal, but by

909
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Monday the clock apparently restarted. Trump posted that the US

910
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.199
<v Speaker 1>quote will not be doing the scheduled attack of Iran

911
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow aka Tuesday, the day you're listening to this, because

912
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the leaders of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE asked

913
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 1>him to hold off due to serious negotiations that are

914
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>now taking place. Trump did add that the US is

915
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>prepared to attack Iran quote on a moment's notice, in

916
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 1>the event that an acceptable deal is not reached. On Monday.

917
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 1>It was also reported that Iran sent its latest peace

918
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>proposal through Pakistan to the US, which the White House

919
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 1>seems likely to reject, even as the Pentagon in Israel

920
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 1>are quote engaged in intense preparations the largest since the

921
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>ceasefire took effect for the possible resumption of attacks against Iran.

922
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.519
<v Speaker 1>According to The New York Times, what do you make

923
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of the back and forth here, Tommy? Like any chance

924
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that Trump's latest threat to destroy Iran got them closer

925
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 1>to a deal, scare them into it?

926
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. But can we just talk about

927
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.159
<v Speaker 3>these statements where he named checks a bunch of autocrats.

928
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:03.920
<v Speaker 3>They're so weird, you don't have to do that. But

929
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.679
<v Speaker 3>he's always like on behalf of the great and highly

930
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 3>respected field Marshal Assam Munyear, I've decided not to like

931
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 3>terminate Iran. You know what.

932
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 1>The delivery date for that plane is supposed to be

933
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 1>the fourth, but he once moved up for his birthday

934
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.280
<v Speaker 1>for the kuitar, so he wants the guitaris to get

935
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:21.079
<v Speaker 1>that plane there fast.

936
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<v Speaker 2>It's the same way that he does the like, you know,

937
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.840
<v Speaker 2>personality stuff with g Like he enjoys the idea that

938
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 2>governing doesn't involve anyone except the people in the room,

939
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Like there's no people decided, right, They're just great men

940
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 2>making big decisions together at a collaboration and friendship. And

941
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:40.599
<v Speaker 2>so he's not doing it for the good of the country.

942
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 2>He's doing it because he was He has this great

943
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 2>rapport with these leaders.

944
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.440
<v Speaker 3>The Pakistani's in particular, like they cut a big crypto

945
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 3>deal with the World Liberty Financial so that's why he

946
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 3>likes them. But like, you do five seconds of research

947
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 3>into the great and respected Field Marshal and you find

948
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 3>the UK authorities have charged him with torture and crimes

949
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 3>against humanity. That's a guy who's like name checking. But

950
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 3>regardless of course they're No, I don't think they're any

951
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.440
<v Speaker 3>closer to a deal. I like, I don't know. I

952
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 3>assume we're in the same place. Iron thinks they have

953
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of leverage because they can close the trade

954
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 3>oh horor moves. They know Trump is weakened politically, they

955
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:12.880
<v Speaker 3>know that he wants out of this, he doesn't want

956
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 3>to go back to war, and so they're gonna wait

957
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.039
<v Speaker 3>for the United States to walk back some of the

958
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 3>more maximuist positions or just get sick of the ship

959
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 3>to move on.

960
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Just to imagine, it's sort of some sort of Iranian

961
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 2>underling kind of going down the stairs into the into

962
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the bunker where the where Then the recuperating Ayatola is

963
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>like pointing at the Ciena numbers and saying like, look,

964
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 2>look we got them, We got them right where we're

965
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 2>got they come.

966
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and cross tabs Iran.

967
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.440
<v Speaker 3>There's all these leaks still, Like Lebron reportedly has up

968
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 3>to seventy five percent of its missile stockpile, all of

969
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 3>it's basically almost all of its infrastructure along the Straight Oh,

970
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Hormoves is operational for them to shut it down so

971
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 3>they could always make things worse straight.

972
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Up for her. Moves also now has its own Twitter account.

973
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't see that, Yeah, like Carl the fog in San Francisco. No, Yeah,

974
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 1>that's that they're calling it, you know, something more official.

975
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 1>But it's like the Iran is the Iranian government, you know. Yeah, No,

976
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>They've just made an official Twitter account so we can

977
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 1>get updates from the Straight.

978
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.599
<v Speaker 3>Just personifying the strainings. Yeah, that's kind of cool.

979
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.039
<v Speaker 2>With like sort of red green yellow ladder of red

980
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 2>like sort of when you get the like Sigolerts in

981
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 2>like California traffic, it's like, oh my god, the Straighter

982
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Moves is red today. Fuck, I'm gonna be honey, I'm

983
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna be light.

984
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have traffic helicopters over reporting on the nines

985
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and five. Uh NBC report last week, the administration is

986
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.079
<v Speaker 1>considering changing the name of the war from Operation Epic

987
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Fury to Operations Sledgehammer. We have to get a little

988
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>more phallic again or something else entirely in order to

989
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>quote effectively restart the clock with Congress. Is that how

990
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it works? New operation name? Now they can't get you no.

991
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Now you can do whatever wars you want.

992
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Like it's I love this idea that you know, the

993
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 3>World War Powers Act is such a weak piece of

994
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 3>legislation that you can just do like a bureaucratic tweak

995
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 3>and get around it. I mean, it's just crazy. It's

996
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 3>obviously the same conflict, Like changing the name doesn't matter.

997
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Every price since next In has claimed that the War

998
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Powers Act is unconstitential. They all hate it, but it

999
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.199
<v Speaker 3>was enacted over Nixon's veto in nineteen seventy three, and

1000
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.280
<v Speaker 3>so Congress has leverage here if they want to use it.

1001
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Republicans refuse to use it. Maybe they'll man up now,

1002
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 3>but we'll see.

1003
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Trump also wants us to know that he's not just

1004
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>focused on wars far away from home. He's focused on

1005
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>wars right in our own backyard. Still, there have been

1006
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of rumblings about the long rumored regime change

1007
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:28.559
<v Speaker 1>move in Cuba. Sources told The ap last week that

1008
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 1>the administration is looking to indict former Cuban president Rol Castro,

1009
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>brother of Fidel, even though he's no longer in power.

1010
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Then over the weekend, Markapudo reported that, according to classified

1011
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 1>US intel, Cuba has over three hundred drones and has

1012
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 1>recently considered launching them against US military targets and even

1013
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Key West Florida, which could serve as a handy pretext

1014
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 1>for an invasion. Cuba's current president mcgal Diaz Canal responded

1015
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>on social media on Monday, writing the quote Cuba poses

1016
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>no threat, nor does it have aggressive plans or intentions

1017
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.039
<v Speaker 1>against any country, including the US, and that a US

1018
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 1>attack would quote trigger a blood. What do you make

1019
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 1>of the Cuba stuff? It seems like he's, uh, it

1020
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 1>seems like he's gearing up.

1021
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:06.440
<v Speaker 3>You want to kick us off on Cuba.

1022
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we should go to war with Cuba

1023
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>right now. In the in the Times poll there was

1024
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a question that was something like when do you believe

1025
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 2>the US should launch war against countries that have not

1026
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 2>attacked US, and it was like seventy percent or like,

1027
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.320
<v Speaker 2>don't do that. Never, don't do that unless someone has

1028
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 2>attacked us, we shouldn't go to war. Whatever Trump had

1029
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 2>come to believe about killing SOLEMANI, the getting Madia out

1030
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:33.199
<v Speaker 2>of Venezuela and how fun that was. He sees the

1031
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 2>polls showing how unpopular the war in Iran is. I

1032
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:37.840
<v Speaker 2>hope that that has at the very least chastened them

1033
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.679
<v Speaker 2>from their kind of idea that they could be regime

1034
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 2>topplers without it kind of consuming their politics.

1035
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 3>But it's terrifying.

1036
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 2>It's serifying to imagine that they were gonna see what

1037
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>they're doing in the Middle East and decided that it

1038
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 2>needs to be broadly closer down.

1039
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1040
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, I'd read the story. It was such

1041
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 3>an obvious pretext to me. But I mean, look, I

1042
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.760
<v Speaker 3>don't doubt the intel, like, is Cuba acquiring drones? Well,

1043
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 3>it's twenty twenty six. In every military has or is

1044
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.119
<v Speaker 3>acquiring drones. It would be like not getting rifles or

1045
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, machine guns in World War One. So it

1046
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:11.199
<v Speaker 3>also says, like the intelligence suggests the Cubans would respond

1047
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.880
<v Speaker 3>to a US attack with drones, which again I.

1048
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Was gonna say this axiou story, you have to get

1049
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 1>way down to reality check, which is three paragraphs four

1050
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 1>paragraphs from the bottom till you find out that, oh,

1051
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.639
<v Speaker 1>by the way, that the intel is that it's retaliator.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a preemptive strike on Miami. This is

1053
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 3>what they would do if we attacked them, because we

1054
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 3>all know if they did a preempt strike on Miami

1055
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 3>that would be suicidal because you would fucking flatten the country.

1056
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So I also just would like to think that if

1057
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 2>we are on the verge of going to war with

1058
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 2>another country, that the evidence would not be laundered through

1059
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 2>anonymous sources into a daily tip sheet that perhaps they're going.

1060
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Well a word with that was the New York Times.

1061
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sorry're right, You're right.

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00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.159
<v Speaker 3>I do think though every indicator light is flashing when

1063
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 3>it comes to possible regime change operations. Because there's this

1064
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 3>leak which creates the pretext of this being an imminent threat.

1065
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 3>There was CI director John Ratcliffe just went to Cuba

1066
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 3>and had this message from Trump. There is the indictment,

1067
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.360
<v Speaker 3>the rumored indictment of Raul Castro, which was a very

1068
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:05.719
<v Speaker 3>important part of the case for why they had to

1069
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:08.440
<v Speaker 3>do what they did against Maduro, which was extract him

1070
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 3>from Venezuela and bring him to New York for prosecution.

1071
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:13.079
<v Speaker 3>There's been all these reports of a huge increase of

1072
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.760
<v Speaker 3>intelligence overflights by the US, So I would be very

1073
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 3>worried if I were a Cuban official. And meanwhile, if

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00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.719
<v Speaker 3>you're a Cuban human being or citizen, like the United

1075
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 3>States has a blockade on that's allowed no oil and

1076
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:28.960
<v Speaker 3>gas into your country and people are starving to death.

1077
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.159
<v Speaker 3>They have one to two hours of electricity a day,

1078
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 3>hospitals can't operate. What we're doing is criminal. It is

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00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:40.760
<v Speaker 3>absolutely evil. You're starving a population of people to death,

1080
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:43.480
<v Speaker 3>and the most likely outcome is that the government collapses

1081
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 3>and there's a mass exodus in migration crisis to the

1082
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.960
<v Speaker 3>United States, which MAGA has told us they do not

1083
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 3>want to happen. I don't understand what these lunatics are

1084
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.360
<v Speaker 3>fucking doing here, but it is just it is utterly immoral,

1085
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.000
<v Speaker 3>just a horrific, horrific policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that the insane thought running through Donald Trump's

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00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 1>head is his response to launching a disastrous war in Iran.

1089
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:10.840
<v Speaker 1>That is unpopular that has cost US billions of dollars

1090
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 1>that it's spiked gas prices everywhere. Is I got to

1091
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>launch a war that's more popular and easy. I got

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00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>to go back to the Venezuela model, because they all

1093
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 1>think that Venezuela was some big fucking success, right, and

1094
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 1>so it's like that was an easy one. So I

1095
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.039
<v Speaker 1>got to get my mojo backed by going to invade

1096
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Cuba now that Irun's a big fucking mess. The same.

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00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Did you see uh Rubio in his Maduro tracks?

1098
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 3>Yes, like this all just a game, it's all just trolling,

1099
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:34.159
<v Speaker 3>it's all content.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was that flattering.

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00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:37.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I think it was. I talked to him to

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00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.320
<v Speaker 2>leave it, but I do think Maduro wore it better.

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00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>But the and not even joking, like it just looked

1104
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 2>more comfortable, a like Rubio looked like the suit was

1105
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 2>wearing him. But I was looking at it as like

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00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 2>why are you doing this?

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00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:50.079
<v Speaker 1>I forget? Like it was a little posed too.

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00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like something there was a lot pos a

1109
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 2>lot post but but like I was looking at him

1110
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 2>like what what are we supposed to?

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00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, look what is this meant?

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<v Speaker 2>Top?

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00:49:58.599 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 3>The boy you're tough.

1114
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.400
<v Speaker 2>You're wearing the same close like who what what? What

1115
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 2>was the message? And I now I'm like, oh, it

1116
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:06.679
<v Speaker 2>was just about how how like what happened? We'll do

1117
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:08.519
<v Speaker 2>this again, like we're going to do this? Is it

1118
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:09.159
<v Speaker 2>a Cuba thing?

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00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck was the outfit? What am I meant

1121
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to take from this photo?

1122
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Stephen Chung, Yeah, that's a good question. I agree with you.

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00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 3>I do think Trump wants to change the channel and

1124
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.559
<v Speaker 3>kind of get us onto a new topic that isn't Iran.

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00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.199
<v Speaker 3>That makes him sound tough again. I do think though,

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00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.920
<v Speaker 3>that Cuba falls in the Venezuela or on Cuba access

1127
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:28.480
<v Speaker 3>of vivil bucket of like Yo Kan's telling him, sir,

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00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 3>he'll be historic figure, Sir if you make big changes

1129
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 3>here and he's down, it will gardle your balls. Well,

1130
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you don't need to do something else to

1131
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.920
<v Speaker 3>get that. That's already happening, that's priced in. But you know,

1132
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.719
<v Speaker 3>he's also in Florida surrounded by a bunch of very

1133
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:46.559
<v Speaker 3>like rich hard line you know, Miami Cubans who you

1134
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:48.880
<v Speaker 3>know have been waiting for this for a long time

1135
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 3>and you know want their real estate assets back on

1136
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 3>the Island. So I don't. I hope I'm wrong. Maybe

1137
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.760
<v Speaker 3>it'll fucking Cubano or you know, like whatever, Wall Street

1138
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 3>will make up a new term for it. It's act stupid,

1139
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 3>but like it does seem like it's nerve wracking.

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00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, if he doesn't do Cuba, then there's always Greenland.

1141
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Remember the critical national security issue of Greenland. A quick

1142
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.119
<v Speaker 1>refresher that back in January, after threatening to invade, Trump

1143
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:18.440
<v Speaker 1>did a taco and announced to the quote framework of

1144
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a future deal with respect to Greenland and in fact,

1145
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the entire Arctic region. Well, the New York Times is

1146
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.599
<v Speaker 1>now reporting that the negotiations around that framework have Greenlandic

1147
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>officials quote worried as US proposals quote amount to a

1148
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>major imposition on greenland sovereignty. Yeah, I bet Greenland specifically

1149
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.320
<v Speaker 1>concerned about Trump's June fourteenth birthday and July fourth is

1150
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.280
<v Speaker 1>upcoming dates where Trump's attention could swing back around to

1151
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 1>them as he starts thinking about his legacy. Unfucking real.

1152
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:46.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you think those concerns well founded? What do

1153
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you think about the Greenlandic concerns expressed in the New

1154
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:51.400
<v Speaker 1>York Times piece?

1155
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Let's just pause and sit in the idea that the

1156
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Danes are concerned that Trump will will get more bellicose

1157
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.000
<v Speaker 2>around his birthday. That's where we're at.

1158
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:02.679
<v Speaker 3>That's what we do.

1159
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 1>Turn in eighty, He's turned America's turn in two fifty,

1160
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're not going to They're not going to be

1161
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 1>content with just the fireworks. No, No, you're gonna want

1162
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to get to the Greenland.

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00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Somebody's got to give him a little. He wants to look.

1164
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:17.599
<v Speaker 2>He wants to the great at the end of his name.

1165
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:19.840
<v Speaker 2>He knows that that when the when, the when the

1166
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Russians got more territory, they got to be the great.

1167
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.559
<v Speaker 2>So we just got to find some fucking chunk of

1168
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 2>land somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba, get me Greenland. Just say Venezuela, the fifty first stay.

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<v Speaker 2>He's something. We got to expand the map.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe we're talking about this again. This sucks.

1172
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 3>It's so crazy. It's like that. Do you guys see

1173
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.119
<v Speaker 3>that the Tim Dillon did. We said, we're not the

1174
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:41.320
<v Speaker 3>high school bully anymore. We're the weird kid who may

1175
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:43.800
<v Speaker 3>or may not have a gun. Yes, not the quarterback.

1176
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.639
<v Speaker 3>We're not the jock. We're the college kid who keeps

1177
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 3>going to high school parties. It might be a pedaphract

1178
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and has a gun. That is us. That's a country.

1179
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Good work everybody?

1180
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<v Speaker 1>That is it? That is it?

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00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I think we've made a mistake electing this guy.

1182
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah well.

1183
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<v Speaker 1>Now that we just talked about Trump up potentially trained

1208
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 1>to conquer several additional nations, possibly because it would look

1209
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 1>cool on a map, it's probably a good time to

1210
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>mention that there's been a revival of the debate about

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00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Trump's age and fitness for the job, and whether Democrats

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00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:29.519
<v Speaker 1>should be making a bigger deal about it. Laura and

1213
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Egan at The Bulwark and Jonathan Lamier at The Atlantic

1214
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 1>are both out with big pieces arguing that it's time

1215
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:37.159
<v Speaker 1>for Democrats to make it a bigger issue. We get

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00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 1>subscriber questions about this a lot. We also see a

1217
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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks on social media making the argument that

1218
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:42.519
<v Speaker 1>if you're not making as big of a deal about

1219
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Trump's age as you were about Biden's, you're being hypocritical.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the spirit of open dialogue, I guess we're

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00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 1>going to debate it. It's debated, that's debating Austin. Austin's

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<v Speaker 1>bringing out a vote Save America mug with three positions

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<v Speaker 1>in it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not gonna let's I'm not gonna look to

1225
00:54:58.119 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 2>we all let's all open every the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, pro meaning it's something we should talk about more

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<v Speaker 1>anti you can guess what that means. And moderator, Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 1>I am the moderator.

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<v Speaker 3>I am anti. Fow, I'm pro bitch. Uh gets fucking owned?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get a little UMBC music tonight? All right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be moderating this debate. John, you will be arguing

1232
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 2>that Democrats must make a greater issue out of Donald

1233
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<v Speaker 2>Trump's age. Tommy will take the con Uh, you have

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00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the opening statement, you have thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Did did Joe Biden lose the last election or have

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<v Speaker 1>to drop out of the last election because he was

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<v Speaker 1>too old?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it the biggest concern of every voter everywhere because

1241
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.239
<v Speaker 1>everyone made a big issue and Republicans made a big

1242
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 1>issue of his age? Yes, yep. So Donald Trump's hands

1243
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:56.199
<v Speaker 1>are falling off right, now he looks like he looks

1244
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 1>like there was like a fucking bad morgue job on

1245
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>his hands before he got in the casket. Sure, he's

1246
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>basically melting before our eyes. He's got all kinds of

1247
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.360
<v Speaker 1>bruises all over the place. Aaron Rupar's feeds full of it.

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<v Speaker 3>All.

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00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just purple, okay all And yet, and yet Democrats

1250
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.280
<v Speaker 1>are out there just talking about affordability and not talking

1251
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:17.920
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that the President United States is decomposing

1252
00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:20.760
<v Speaker 1>before our eyes, and Democrats won't talk about it, even

1253
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 1>though these were the same Democrats that tried to push

1254
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden out of the race.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, a powerful argument, Tommy, your counter.

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<v Speaker 3>John, you ignorant slut. I don't want to get in

1257
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 3>between you and Aaron Ruppar's feed and your little hand

1258
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 3>job issue there with the Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trump is a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is not running again, so none of this matters.

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00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Democrats have a zero credibility on this issue, after spending

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00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:47.599
<v Speaker 3>years pretending that they couldn't see Joe Biden's physical decline

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00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:50.559
<v Speaker 3>as he was shuffling around in sneakers and falling over sandbags.

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<v Speaker 3>Every minute we spend talking about makeup on this decrepit

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00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.840
<v Speaker 3>old man's hands is a minute we are not spending

1266
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:03.800
<v Speaker 3>talking about stock trades, the ballroom, medicare cuts, things that

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00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:07.840
<v Speaker 3>actually matter to people. And uh yeah, the napping is weird.

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00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Admittedly it's also very funny when the White House says

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00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:14.559
<v Speaker 3>that he blinked for ten seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, long blank, long, these are long blanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Admittedly that's weird. But he still does a lot of events.

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00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:21.239
<v Speaker 3>He's out there all the time, he's doing rallies. He

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00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:22.360
<v Speaker 3>looks vibrant.

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00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.599
<v Speaker 1>He's a big looks vibrant. What are you talking about?

1275
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:27.559
<v Speaker 1>He can't even stand up a murderer?

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00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 3>All right, so let me let me just throw some

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00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 3>questions in any trigger direction.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start. I'll start with you, Tommy. You do notice

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00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.960
<v Speaker 2>that there's a significant decline in how he communicates from

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00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.639
<v Speaker 2>today to how he communicated even four or eight years ago,

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00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:43.320
<v Speaker 2>That that his cadence has changed, That he's not as clear,

1282
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 2>he is more meandering. He's posting all hours of the night,

1283
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:48.840
<v Speaker 2>like these are things that are should be a liability.

1284
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.079
<v Speaker 3>I think he's always done these things. I think he's

1285
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.800
<v Speaker 3>always been kind of incoherent. I think he's always posted,

1286
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 3>he's never slept.

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00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 2>But I'm curious how you would explain the difference right

1288
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 2>like he is. Yes, you're right, he has always been

1289
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:03.280
<v Speaker 2>this way. But I think it's indisputable that it is

1290
00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 2>all worse, like he is rambling more he is, Uh,

1291
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:09.880
<v Speaker 2>it's the weave, but the weave is getting worse? Do

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00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.440
<v Speaker 2>you do you think it's getting like changing? Depending on

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00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I like jokes aside.

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00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:18.079
<v Speaker 3>I think I don't know that I noticed him that

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00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:20.239
<v Speaker 3>much more rambly than he used to, because I think

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00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 3>he's always been rambling like he does look tired, he's

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00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:26.519
<v Speaker 3>legitimately falling asleep in events. It's noticeable. The hand stuff

1298
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:28.800
<v Speaker 3>is weird. And by the way, they're clearly lying about

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00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 3>the hand stuff because they initially said it was his

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00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 3>handshaking hand, and then the other hand had the bruising too.

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<v Speaker 1>So he also he also keeps going to the dentist and.

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00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 3>No one, dude, how many annual dentist trips?

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00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.239
<v Speaker 1>A lot of dentist trips. Yeah, he's doing a lot

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00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 1>of things that no one's telling no one's telling us

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00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.119
<v Speaker 1>why his health is the way it is, and there's

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00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 1>no one's asking questions.

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00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.519
<v Speaker 3>And there's the doctor's office in the west wing so

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00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.800
<v Speaker 3>you would only go to Walter Reed or Bethesda wherever

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00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 3>he's going now to get like specialized equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also dental. There's also the dentist office in the House.

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00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Just got to go to a special dentist. So John

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00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:01.800
<v Speaker 2>questioning you, how would a Democrat who was somebody who

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00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>defended Joe Biden's ability to run again make this argument

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00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:08.760
<v Speaker 2>without seeming like they're full of shit.

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00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong about Joe Biden, and I should have

1316
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.079
<v Speaker 1>said something earlier. And that's what I'm doing this time around,

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00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.519
<v Speaker 1>because Donald Trump is in bad shape and he should

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00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 1>not be a lead in the country, and any Republican

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00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that still supports him and that doesn't want to pressure

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00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 1>the cabinet to invoke the twenty fifth Amendment, then they

1321
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:27.800
<v Speaker 1>are just feeding into this cover up for Donald Trump's

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00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:30.760
<v Speaker 1>age in his dementia, and he is just putting us

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00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>all at risk and Republicans won't do anything about it.

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00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:35.039
<v Speaker 1>And so even though he's not running again, when we

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00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>go into the midterms, we know that Donald Trump's approval

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00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 1>rating is highly correlated with how Republicans are going to

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00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>do in the midterms. And by talking more about how

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00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.599
<v Speaker 1>he has dementia and he is losing his marbles, then

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00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>we could get his approval even lower, and that Democrats

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00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 1>can then do better in the midterms.

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<v Speaker 2>Last question for you, Tommy, Joe Biden's age and Joe

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00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Biden's disapprove on the economy became link. The fact that

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00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 2>the economy was bad was a sign he wasn't up

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00:59:58.159 --> 00:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>for the job. The fact that he was up for

1335
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.280
<v Speaker 2>the job made people doubt that he could fix the economy.

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01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:05.159
<v Speaker 2>We're trying to make an argument that Republicans we have

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01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 2>to win the House in the Senate, and that Republicans

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01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.039
<v Speaker 2>refuse to tell the truth about Donald Trump. Shouldn't the

1339
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:12.639
<v Speaker 2>fact that Donald Trump is to put decomposing four our eyes,

1340
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:16.920
<v Speaker 2>rambling at all hours, falling asleep in meetings. Shouldn't we

1341
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:19.760
<v Speaker 2>be saying these Republicans won't be honest about that? That

1342
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Who Why are they not telling the truth about this?

1343
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 2>What are we not knowing about this? Shouldn't we be

1344
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 2>making this one of the lines of argument that we

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01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.760
<v Speaker 2>use when we try to accuse Republicans of not only

1346
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Trump accountable.

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01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so, allow me to flip flop on the issue

1348
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 3>to respond to your leading question. Clearly, they're covering up

1349
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.960
<v Speaker 3>something right, Like the guy's the multiple annual doctor visits,

1350
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Like this is crazy, it's all pretext. We should push

1351
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.519
<v Speaker 3>for more information. There is muscle memory here, right, Like,

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01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:46.880
<v Speaker 3>I think we get people to like a critical, massive

1353
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 3>concern about this, they can they will care. I also

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01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:51.320
<v Speaker 3>just like I think Truble hate it. If we call

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01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:53.599
<v Speaker 3>him a sad, sick old man, he would hate that.

1356
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 3>So it's just working that in there could be fun.

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01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Now now you argue the other side.

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01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I'll argue the other side because I've Tommy's

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01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.719
<v Speaker 1>best point was he's not running again, Like and so

1360
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.840
<v Speaker 1>what difference as Hillary Clinton once said, what difference does

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01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 1>it make if if he's if he is decrepit, if

1362
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:12.719
<v Speaker 1>they are covering something up he's Like the reason this

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01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.119
<v Speaker 1>was a potent argument against Joe Biden is because Joe

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01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Biden was asking voters for four more years in office.

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01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump will never ask voters for four more years

1366
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:22.760
<v Speaker 1>in office. He might try to say no, he won't.

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01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.119
<v Speaker 1>He might try to stay in office, but he's not

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01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:26.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask voters for four more years.

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01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:27.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean he might run for a third term.

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01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:29.639
<v Speaker 1>That's he's going to try that. He's going to try

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01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:31.039
<v Speaker 1>to just sit there and be like, I got the

1372
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.519
<v Speaker 1>military in the park. Yeah, no one's gonna let him run.

1373
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:36.400
<v Speaker 1>But so he's not gonna ask for you. So what

1374
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.199
<v Speaker 1>is the purpose of Trump? What is the if we're

1375
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:41.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to win a midterm, what is the story we're

1376
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:43.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to tell about Donald Trump that is most true?

1377
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:44.920
<v Speaker 1>And the story that is most true is what you

1378
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.400
<v Speaker 1>said at the beginning of this uh at this episode,

1379
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:49.559
<v Speaker 1>which is this whole term is a smash and grab.

1380
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:51.000
<v Speaker 1>He wants to make as much money as he can.

1381
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.079
<v Speaker 1>He's a meglomaniac who thinks that now he needs this

1382
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:56.440
<v Speaker 1>legacy in history where he like conquers half the globe

1383
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't give a shit about people. He doesn't

1384
01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:00.599
<v Speaker 1>give a shit about people, and he's never given a

1385
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 1>shit about people, and that's a consistent story through time.

1386
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 1>And whether he has dementia now or he's losing his

1387
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:07.440
<v Speaker 1>marbles or not, like doesn't really matter.

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01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:09.039
<v Speaker 2>So I think the way that I would square this

1389
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:12.400
<v Speaker 2>is I think that's right Democrats to be more passionate

1390
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:13.000
<v Speaker 2>about the dact.

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01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Now.

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01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Democrats paid a political price for defending Joe Biden and

1393
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:19.960
<v Speaker 2>when people had concerns about his age, even after he

1394
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.679
<v Speaker 2>dropped out because it came to be evidence that Democrats

1395
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:26.400
<v Speaker 2>couldn't be trusted more broadly, And my argument would only

1396
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:29.480
<v Speaker 2>be no, age should not be the central argument we

1397
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:32.599
<v Speaker 2>make against Donald Trump. But if we can make the

1398
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:35.800
<v Speaker 2>fact that Republicans refuse to be honest about not just

1399
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Trump's corruption and and unaccountability and brazen theft, but also

1400
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 2>just his rambling and crazy nonsense, and you make every

1401
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 2>time he does that part of a story about how

1402
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:49.880
<v Speaker 2>he's unfit in including because he's getting old, then that's

1403
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:51.920
<v Speaker 2>part of why these Republicans can't be trusted. To me,

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01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that's the best. I'm not the best I can do.

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01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Even that, As you say that, like you kind of

1406
01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:58.480
<v Speaker 1>just like threw in corruption there, but it's like, so

1407
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 1>he's he doesn't know what he's doing. He's crazy, but

1408
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.400
<v Speaker 1>he's also smart enough to be out there stealing all

1409
01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the money.

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01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I just think like the incoherence is priced in, Like

1411
01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:08.400
<v Speaker 3>the weave is a thing that's like a joke, but

1412
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:09.960
<v Speaker 3>it's also not a joke, you know what I mean.

1413
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Like people know he's a goofball, he's all over the place,

1414
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:14.920
<v Speaker 3>he says weird shit, but also like he's funny, he's

1415
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.440
<v Speaker 3>big and imposing, he seems sharp at events a lot

1416
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:20.320
<v Speaker 3>of times, and like the handshit is very odd, but like,

1417
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:21.159
<v Speaker 3>it's also weird.

1418
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:23.599
<v Speaker 1>It's weird to make an argument that he used to

1419
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 1>be sharp when we were all saying he's been fucking

1420
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 1>crazy since he came on the scene in twenty sixty. Yeah,

1421
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:30.199
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. It's weird for Democrats to be in the

1422
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:32.039
<v Speaker 1>bits and be like, you know what, he's just not

1423
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:33.719
<v Speaker 1>up for the job. He used to be, but now

1424
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:34.679
<v Speaker 1>he's not up for the job.

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01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I think, look, I think I don't think anyone should

1426
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:38.199
<v Speaker 2>make that that argument. I think you go back and

1427
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:40.159
<v Speaker 2>look at even about like the the debates with Jeb

1428
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Bush versus the debate with Comma Harris, like there's been

1429
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:44.440
<v Speaker 2>a crazy to find. But even putting that aside, here's

1430
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.159
<v Speaker 2>the thing that I find very annoying about all this

1431
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:50.679
<v Speaker 2>this it's the same kind of practiced like obtuseness that

1432
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.519
<v Speaker 2>some people on our side love to do. Like how

1433
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:55.599
<v Speaker 2>could you say this If you won't say the same

1434
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:57.559
<v Speaker 2>exact thing about Trump that you said about Joe Biden,

1435
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.440
<v Speaker 2>then you're being a hypocrite. As if we can't see

1436
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 2>the difference between the way Joe Biden looked and the

1437
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:04.920
<v Speaker 2>way Donald Trump, the fact that Joe Biden was disappearing

1438
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:07.400
<v Speaker 2>from the public. Look, if you think Donald Trump is

1439
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.840
<v Speaker 2>too old for the job, I'm I'm I'm sure sure.

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01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:14.239
<v Speaker 1>He's too selfish. He's too He's too much of a

1441
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:15.599
<v Speaker 1>fucking dictator for the job.

1442
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.239
<v Speaker 2>He's also the most accessible president we have ever had.

1443
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:21.880
<v Speaker 2>He is on camera every fucking day. He's answering questions

1444
01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 2>every day, and like he seems vital. Yeah, nuts loses

1445
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:27.840
<v Speaker 2>the thread all the ways in which he's terrible and

1446
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.239
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be in office. He should be impeached and removed immediately.

1447
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in charge of this, but like to to

1448
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 2>act as if there isn't a big difference between the

1449
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:36.000
<v Speaker 2>way Donald Trump is aging the way the way Joe

1450
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Biden is aging is to once again deny what we

1451
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:39.239
<v Speaker 2>can see with their own fucking eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but to me, that is like all beside the point.

1454
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Even if you can argue that back and forth, whoever

1455
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.199
<v Speaker 1>thinks you know Joe Biden was worse Trump was worse, whatever,

1456
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:52.079
<v Speaker 1>But it's again, the question is to what end is

1457
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a second term president? If Donald Trump was sitting here

1458
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:56.880
<v Speaker 1>saying I'm want four more years, and we were trying

1459
01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:58.320
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to defeat the two one.

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01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:01.159
<v Speaker 3>That answer is you try to drive down his negatism,

1461
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.119
<v Speaker 3>or you make it an issue that other Republicans need

1462
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 3>to speak to you, and like suddenly they're vouching for

1463
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 3>him not being senile or old or whatever. I think

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01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:10.760
<v Speaker 3>we're a long way from here to there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it's also because if you had, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a choice between what Republicans need to answer for,

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<v Speaker 1>would you rather it be they're covering up for Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump being too old or they're saying nothing about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's literally stealing from taxpayers out of their

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<v Speaker 1>pocket and launched a war that's shot up gas price

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<v Speaker 1>hand to make up or I think you'd rather do

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<v Speaker 1>that one. And if he really both okay, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>only have so many things that you can say out

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<v Speaker 1>of your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it was so clear, right like if he

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<v Speaker 2>was really like, look, I agree, he's in decline. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not some magic words that Democrats can use to make

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<v Speaker 2>something more. They can make it more of an issue,

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<v Speaker 2>but they can't make it the issue. If Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was as having the kind of muttering debate that that

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden had I guarantee you would be a big

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<v Speaker 2>political issue, and it wouldn't be because Chuck Schumer decided

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<v Speaker 2>it was on some given day.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a calm, a sad sickle man.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to town. Let's go to town.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a man figure. If you got the right words,

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<v Speaker 1>I won. Okay, Congress, Good for you, Congress to our winner,

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<v Speaker 1>John love It. That's our show for today, Dan and

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<v Speaker 1>I will be back with a new show on Friday.

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