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Speaker 1: very happy Wednesday to you one hour from now, Judge
Speaker 1: Edna Politano and Independence Day twenty twenty five. Are you
Speaker 1: freer now than you were? Under the THUMBA King George
Speaker 1: legitimate question to ponder. George Lang State centat they're going
Speaker 1: to join the program at eight to five talk about
Speaker 1: the Ohio budget and joining the program right now to
Speaker 1: talk about the Ohio budget. Donovan and Neil from Americans
Speaker 1: for Prosperity, welcome back to the show. Donovan, Always a
Speaker 1: pleasure to having you on.
Speaker 4: Brian, always great to be with you and happy to
Speaker 4: be an opener for Buckeye Blueprint champion.
Speaker 5: George Lang, He's one of the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm looking forward to talking to him as well.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can discuss why it is that Governor de
Speaker 1: Want vetoed so many provisions sixty seven vetos. Now they
Speaker 1: can override these vetos if they come back from their break.
Speaker 1: Is my understanding, what's the percentage they need by way
Speaker 1: of I mean, is this a super majority to override vetos?
Speaker 1: It a simple majority? How does that work?
Speaker 5: Do you know? Donovan? Yeah, And it's actually something we've
Speaker 5: done before. AFP was part of this.
Speaker 4: You may remember late in the final term for Governor Kasik,
Speaker 4: there were some medicaid provisions that he vetoed. Legislature came
Speaker 4: back overrode his vetos for waivers to save some money
Speaker 4: bring some efficiency to that program. So it's possible, and
Speaker 4: it's happened in recent history. It's a two thirds majority,
Speaker 4: so that ninety nine members in the House you need.
Speaker 4: What is that I think about sixty three sixty sixty
Speaker 4: three somewhere in there, so two thirds majority, it's not unfeasible.
Speaker 4: There's sixty five members in the Republican caucus in the House.
Speaker 4: The Senate, I think I would say it's probably a
Speaker 4: slam dunk for something like a veto override. But the
Speaker 4: House is where you've got to kind of watch and
Speaker 4: see who's available and around to come back and get
Speaker 4: that done.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And in terms of how this would work, are would
Speaker 1: they vote to override all of the vetos across the board?
Speaker 1: Are they just going to hand pick the ones that
Speaker 1: they really want to override? I mean, do you have
Speaker 1: any insight into how that's going to work or if
Speaker 1: it will work that way?
Speaker 4: My understanding and I have to take another look at
Speaker 4: how all those how all this sort of comes together.
Speaker 4: But my understanding is it is each individual veto has
Speaker 4: to be voted on. You don't just vote to undo
Speaker 4: the whole package. You have to pick and choose what
Speaker 4: you're going to have, what you're gonna do there. But
Speaker 4: you could do it all that just be sixty seven
Speaker 4: different votes, I believe.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's unlikely that they would vote on every
Speaker 1: single veto then, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4: I think that's right. I think they probably would prioritize
Speaker 4: the ones where there's the largest amount of consensus, things
Speaker 4: like property taxes or reg reform.
Speaker 5: Or school choice.
Speaker 4: I would hope and maybe some of this other stuff's
Speaker 4: tackled in other future pieces of legislation, would still get
Speaker 4: it all done this session.
Speaker 1: All right, which is a good segue into Americans for Prosperity.
Speaker 1: What is AFP advocating for in terms of its choices
Speaker 1: on what should be overridden which vetos?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well, you know, we issued our Buckeye Blueprint.
Speaker 4: That's our policy agenda for this year. Big things like
Speaker 4: tax reform, moving on he to a flat tax. That's
Speaker 4: mission accomplished. The governor recognized he could at veto that
Speaker 4: and have it stand. But there's other major priorities. Property
Speaker 4: tax in particularly property tax reform.
Speaker 5: All the property tax.
Speaker 4: Reform provisions, those were designed to provide immediate relief while
Speaker 4: also providing structural reform to keep a property tax crisis
Speaker 4: like we're experiencing right now happening. Again, those were all
Speaker 4: vetoed by the governor. Reg reform, so the Rains Act
Speaker 4: type provisions that were included in the in the final
Speaker 4: version of the budget that would have rained in executive overreach.
Speaker 4: There was maybe a little bit of executive overreach, and
Speaker 4: he vetoed the ability.
Speaker 5: To rein in his bureaucrats.
Speaker 2: That was well.
Speaker 1: That was the provision that if any regulation that was
Speaker 1: implemented had a financial impact of what more than one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars or a million dollars, then it had
Speaker 1: to be specifically voted on in the legislative branch exactly.
Speaker 4: And so it's not saying you can't have a rule
Speaker 4: that's going you know, you can't implement a new regulation
Speaker 4: that's going to have a million dollar economic drag on
Speaker 4: the state of Ohio. It just needs a little extra
Speaker 4: scrutiny that was veto to put.
Speaker 2: On the cutter and floor. Did he explain why.
Speaker 4: There's put so with each of these vetos, the governor
Speaker 4: does have to provide a veto message. I would describe
Speaker 4: it as a pretty sterile message. I believe if I
Speaker 4: recalled him, that was a pretty generic This slows down
Speaker 4: the ability for the executive and our agencies to.
Speaker 5: Do their job.
Speaker 2: Oh well, good, that's the point of it, isn't it.
Speaker 2: I agree? I agree, Brian, you got to put people
Speaker 2: on record.
Speaker 1: Are you in favor of this expensive regulation or do
Speaker 1: you want to not have this expensive regulation? Vote on it.
Speaker 1: I don't see a problem with that. That's actually disheartening
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 5: Well, what's interesting, though, is this isn't unique.
Speaker 4: You know, AFP's leading the charge on this rainback reforms
Speaker 4: across the country. Over twenty states have introduced or pass
Speaker 4: reforms this year alone, just the first six months of
Speaker 4: this year. States like Kentucky with Andy Basheer, no surprise,
Speaker 4: he vetoed it. The legislature came back and slapped him down,
Speaker 4: although they're only a simple majority. But Wyoming, even with
Speaker 4: Republican governors Wyoming vetoed. They came back and slapped him down.
Speaker 5: And so this actually.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a dramatic finish to these sorts of
Speaker 4: reg reform ideas. Right when the executive says I don't
Speaker 4: want more oversight, and the legislature.
Speaker 5: Comes back and overrides them.
Speaker 4: I think that's the idea behind those bills, right, is
Speaker 4: that the legislature has that oversight, and if the governor
Speaker 4: sees fit to veto it, I think it's right for
Speaker 4: the legislature to come back and reassert their authority.
Speaker 5: It's why they put it in the bill in the
Speaker 5: first place.
Speaker 1: Amen, brother, And with your encouragement from Americans for Prosperity,
Speaker 1: maybe they would do just that.
Speaker 2: Pause.
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Speaker 1: station for Americans for Prosperity. Donovan Hills speaking about the
Speaker 1: various dwine vetos which can be overridden. As he explained
Speaker 1: in the last segments, you need to come back and
Speaker 1: do it. You picked out some other ones at AFP
Speaker 1: that you want to override, Donovan, What might they be?
Speaker 4: Well, proper tax I mean, we've talked about this on
Speaker 4: the show before, Brian. You hear it wherever you go,
Speaker 4: from coffee shops to doors, which we do a lot
Speaker 4: of doors here at AFP, talking to voters, to roundtable
Speaker 4: events with legislators. There's a property text crisis here in
Speaker 4: the state of Ohio. The legislature put a number of provisions.
Speaker 4: These weren't just ideas that they were trying to see
Speaker 4: if they'd.
Speaker 5: Stick to the wall.
Speaker 4: Last year, Brian, the legislature had a select committee that
Speaker 4: came together, heard hours, hundreds of hours of testimony from
Speaker 4: various groups, and developed they believe it was twenty one
Speaker 4: recommendation list that was brought into this session. That list
Speaker 4: was used to then develop dozens of pieces of legislation
Speaker 4: that again got hundreds of hours of vetting and public
Speaker 4: testimony and discussion in the State House over the last
Speaker 4: six months. These ideas that were in this budget bill,
Speaker 4: these handful of ideas are in this budget bill addressing
Speaker 4: the property text crisis or among some of the most vetted,
Speaker 4: well respected, kind of a read upon ideas to resolve
Speaker 4: not just the problem immediately, but also make some of
Speaker 4: the structural changes. For some unknown reasons, still, the governor
Speaker 4: saw fit to just strip those from the budget. His
Speaker 4: argument was, we need to have a little more vetting
Speaker 4: and bring together a working group to kind of solve
Speaker 4: this property tax problem here in the state.
Speaker 5: It's insane to me.
Speaker 1: He was quoted as saying, I mean, first off, property
Speaker 1: tax increases across will have strained many family budgets and
Speaker 1: danger of the financial security of many unfixed incomes, no kidding.
Speaker 1: Then he pivots over to the various vetos that he
Speaker 1: did that were addressed to that problem. These ideas were thoughtful,
Speaker 1: but I was also concerned that imposing them, now, all
Speaker 1: of them at once, on our local schools would create
Speaker 1: a huge, huge problem. Huh So more about the schools
Speaker 1: and the elderly.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, the problem is here and now right
Speaker 4: the Ohioans are facing the risk of losing their homes
Speaker 4: because of out of control property taxes. The crisis is here,
Speaker 4: The problem is now, and the legislature put a handful
Speaker 4: of solutions. There's more to be done, quite honestly, but
Speaker 4: the legislature puts some solutions in to release some of
Speaker 4: that pressure and give folks some breathing room. All of
Speaker 4: that left on the cutting room floor, Well, well, what
Speaker 4: these what these would have done these These aren't really
Speaker 4: controversial ideas either, right, right, It's ideas like saying, hey,
Speaker 4: you know, we're going to empower the county budget Commission,
Speaker 4: these local elected officials who oversee the budgets in a county,
Speaker 4: to have some additional oversight to say, hey, if you
Speaker 4: if you're sitting on a large amount of cash balance
Speaker 4: as a local government taxpayer dollars, and you're coming back
Speaker 4: from more money to the taxpayers, you actually maybe you
Speaker 4: shouldn't do that, right and being able to tell them
Speaker 4: don't do that. You can't go get more money from
Speaker 4: the taxpayers right now until you spend the money already
Speaker 4: are sitting on from them. Things like that provide that
Speaker 4: immediate relief. But vetoed, vetoed, As you can tell, it's
Speaker 4: a little frustrating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there was one provision that would have
Speaker 1: changed the authority of county budget commissions, allowing them to
Speaker 1: unilaterally shrink a school district's levy passed by the voters.
Speaker 1: I suppose that would apply in circumstances where the school
Speaker 1: really doesn't need the money, given the cash reserves they
Speaker 1: have they're sitting on, sitting on. Then they had the
Speaker 1: cash balance carryover provision, which he vetoed, would have put
Speaker 1: a forty percent cap in a school district carryover revenue
Speaker 1: or the unspent funds of a district that they have
Speaker 1: on hand at the end of a fiscal year. In
Speaker 1: other words, they didn't spend what of the one hundred
Speaker 1: percent revenue that they were entitled to, so they're sitting
Speaker 1: on that. Then you can't ask for more and you
Speaker 1: got to give back to the taxpayers anything over the
Speaker 1: forty percent.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the idea you're right is we wouldn't be
Speaker 4: happy if Columbus was sitting on gobs of cash and
Speaker 4: still taking money from our paychecks.
Speaker 5: And sales tax and other mechanisms are.
Speaker 2: Right, and quite frankically, they haven't.
Speaker 4: Columbus has cut taxes over the last decade. We've gone
Speaker 4: from nine tax brackets now we're down to one of
Speaker 4: a rated two point seventy five percent. What was the
Speaker 4: last time you heard of a school board, a city,
Speaker 4: a county government actually lowering.
Speaker 5: Taxes on its citizens.
Speaker 2: I've yet to.
Speaker 4: Find that government that's done it among the thirty nine hundred.
Speaker 5: In the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2: Legitimate point.
Speaker 5: Donovan O'Neil.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully you get them herded up, rounded back into
Speaker 1: Columbus and start voting on overriding vetos. Good luck with
Speaker 1: the effort, donovan on behalf of all the property taxpayers
Speaker 1: and of course people who are in favor of some
Speaker 1: school choice and the like. Get to work, my friend,
Speaker 1: round those cats up.
Speaker 4: We're going to shoot some fireworks this Friday for the
Speaker 4: fourth of July, and then we'll be out there getting
Speaker 4: folks to get this done over the summer, in full months.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you will any any call to action, Donovanil
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Speaker 4: Well, first and foremost, just contact your state representative, your
Speaker 4: state senator, thank them for making OHIOI slat tax state,
Speaker 4: and then encourage them to get out there and finish
Speaker 4: the job on property taxes.
Speaker 1: Amen, brother, appreciate what you do, Donovanil. Look forward to
Speaker 1: having you back on the program another week and have
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