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much for your support. Alrighty, So I came across an

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interesting story. It was from a podcast, and I'm on location,

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so I don't have the audio to play for you.

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But it's a guy by the name of Malcolm Gladwell.

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And I confess I did not know this man's name,

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but I do know one of his pieces of work,

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which was the Tipping Point. Do you remember that the

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tipping Point? This guy apparently has coined a couple of

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phrases that are now in sort of the popular vernacular,

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particularly with like the crossover of culture and politics. So

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this is a guy who is I think he's described

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by Jim Garrity at National Review as being well ensconced

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in the cultural elite. And he doesn't mean that as

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an insult. This is a guy who is literally like

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a taste maker, trendsetter, kind of a dude. Okay, And

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that's just the background, and you'll see why it's important

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in a moment. So he goes onto a podcast called

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The Real Science of Sport. I confess I had never

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heard of that either, and it is hosted by a

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sports scientist, professor, and I confess I had never heard

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of that line of work ever before either, this sports

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scientist professor Ross Tucker, as well as a sports journalist

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Mike Finch, but he doesn't really play a role in

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this back and forth. So you've got Raw Tucker and

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this guy Malcolm Gladwell. Okay, So Ross Tucker and Gladwell

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have done a number of things together over the years.

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And one of the things that they did back in

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either they weren't really clear on the date. It was

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somewhere around twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two, but

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try to imagine, like, you know, where we were as

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a society and culture in twenty one twenty two, right

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we were we were still you know, coming out of

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the pandemic. A lot of the mask mandates were still

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in place. If you were North Carolina. In free er states,

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they had dropped long ago, if they were ever implemented

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at all. But you know, there were fights over whether

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the school should reopen. People were still freaked out about

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you know, standing five feet away from somebody or six

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feet away from somebody, and all of that. There was

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also the summer of fiery but mostly peaceful protests and

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rioting and looting, and so we still had a lot

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of that stuff going on. We had cancel culture running

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full bore, and at the time we also were having

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the rise of woke, right. We were seeing these presentations

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in corporate settings and in school settings right with the

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privileged walks and all of that stuff. So this was

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like sort of peak crazy. Okay, So they go on

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to a panel discussion. It was at something called the

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Sloan Conference. And I confess I have never heard of

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the Sloan Conference either. It's held every year at MIT

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in Boston. I have heard of them. But they were

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on a panel together Ross Tucker, the sports scientist professor,

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and Malcolm Gladwell, staff writer for the New Yorker magazine.

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And so I believe let me see here. Tucker was

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a panelist and Gladwell was the moderator, Okay, And what

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Gladwell tells Tucker is that the organizers stacked the panel discussion.

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They stacked it against you, Ross, That's what he says.

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They put a trans athlete and a trans advocate and

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you on the panel. And Gladwell was the moderator, and

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he says it was one of those strange situations where

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he said, my suspicion was that ninety percent of the

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people in the audience were actually on Tucker's side, but

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five percent of the audience was willing to admit it.

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So a ninety percent support in an audience, but only

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five percent of them willing to voice that support. Because

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Tucker was saying things like men and women are different

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and men have an inherent physiological biological advantage when playing

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against female in sports, and whenever he would say these things,

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dead silence in the audience. Nobody would clap, nobody would

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signal approval or agreement. But when the two trans panelists

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would say no, no, if a dude wants to play

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against the women, that's totally fine, and the audience would

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erupt in cheers. And Gladwell says it was a particular

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moment which has now passed in our society. He means,

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if we did a replay of that exact panel at

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the Sloan Conference this year, he says, it runs in

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the exact opposite direction. In other words, now the people

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are applauding. When Tucker would say what he was saying,

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he says, I suspect there'd be near unanimity in the

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room that trans athletes have no place in the female category.

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He says, I'm ashamed of my performance in that panel.

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On that panel, he's ashamed of his performance because I

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share your position one hundred percent, and I was cowed.

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He says, I was in I believe in retrospect in

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a dishonest way. I was objective in a dishonest way.

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That is not for me. I'm still feeling fine. It'll

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pass here. It goes Charlotte Fire Department. That's the ladder.

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I missed it. It's a ladder truck though heading in Touptown.

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I missed the number on it. Godspeed Ben. So what's

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interesting here is that this guy Gladwell, who is you

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know among the cultural elite, acknowledging what I and probably

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you had long suspected during the peak crazy of twenty

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one and twenty two, that these people didn't really believe

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this stuff. They didn't they just went along. And it's

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one of the things that I've said for years, and

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I forget who I first heard say it. It's not

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my brilliance that conjured this up, but I do believe

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it to be true that most people think that they

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would be the family that hid and Frank and her

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family in their attic from the Nazis, when in fact

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most people would not. Most people would turn them in right.

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Most people don't make the courageous decision, which is why

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it's called courageous. So this guy, Malcolm Gladwell now acknowledges

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he was one hundred percent on board with Ross Tucker's view,

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but he allowed Tucker to stand alone on that stage

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and to take all of the slings and arrows and

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to be met with death silent stares and allow the

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audience to rave with applause for the people that were

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saying things that Gladwell knew were one hundred percent incorrect.

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And then there's one moment he said that really solidified

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it for him. So when I was a kid, my

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grandpa died with Alzheimer's and before he died, my mom

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and my dad took care of him as he got worse.

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Forty years ago, there were no treatments and not much

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support for caregivers and family. But things are different today

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because of the work of so many people, including the

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Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great organization with

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awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a supporter for

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twenty five years. This cause means a lot to me.

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I participate in the annual Walk to End Alzheimer's and

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I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year, and it's

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called once again Pete's Pack. You can sign up and

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thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the description

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This is why we walk, all Righty? So I was

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talking about Malcolm Gladwell, author of The Tipping Point, a

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credentialed member of the cultural elites. Okay, and he's on

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a panel discussion back in twenty one or twenty two.

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They couldn't really recall with Ross Tucker who is this

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podcast host? And Tucker was a panelist, Gladwell is the

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moderator on stage with him. There's a transactivist and a

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trans athlete. Tucker is saying that men and women are different.

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The audience is giving him the silent treatment. The trans

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panelists are like men and aren't different. Men can play

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in sports that are women's only sports. It's totally fine.

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And the audience goes wild with approval and all of this,

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and Gladwell is, like I was cowed, I knew what

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Ross Tucker was saying. He tells him, he says, I

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knew what you were saying was true. I agreed with you,

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But in retrospect he said he was in a dishonest way.

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He was objective in a dishonest way because he was

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I'm just the moderator, so I don't have to weigh

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in on this, okay. But then there came a point.

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Gladwell says that the trans athlete that was on the

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panel at one point they turned to Ross Tucker and

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they said, quote, Ross, you have to let us win.

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End quote. And it was at that moment Gladwell says, quote,

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I realized this position has gone, This argument has gone

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to the furthest extreme. What the trans movement is not

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asking for. They're not asking for a place at the table.

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They're not asking to be treated with respect and dignity.

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What they're asking for is nobody to question the considerable

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physical physiological advantage that they bring to the sport, and

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no one to question if they're going to win these

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races by five seconds, well then just suck it up, right,

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That's what they were asking. What they're saying is you

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should have to live with that and that when I

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heard that, I was like, this is nuts, and yet

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I didn't say anything. And this is why at the

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very heart of the transactivism is a demand not for equality,

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but a demand for conformity, a demand that you abide

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by their delusion, that you participate in the fantasy you

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are required to say things that you do not believe

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to be true. That's what the demand has has always

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been at the heart of all of this. And people

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there's this belief that when you, you know, rise through the

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socioeconomic ranks, you become very well known, like Malcolm Gladwell,

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when you become comfortable economically, that now you've got this

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perch where you can say whatever you want and you're

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not beholden to this stuff. You know, you work from home,

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you make your own money, like you don't need somebody

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for another job and all of this, and people think

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that that insulates you, when in fact, it makes you

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less likely to break with the peer pressure and the conformity.

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And that's why you saw, as Gladwell surmised, ninety percent

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of the people in the audience agreeing with Ross Tucker,

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but only five percent of them willing to say they do.

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That's why you end up with that the permission structure

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once again, right, the permission structure. Once you can say

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we saw it all also with Donald Trump, right, there

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was that period after Trump was out. J six occurs

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and everybody is like, oh my gosh, you icky man,

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orange man, you know, and all of this. And then

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after he gets well, he gets shot in the first

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attempted assassination, after you know, he had been charged, indighted

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and dragged through the courts and house raided, right, all

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of this stuff, and then he gets shot. And at

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that point there becomes this permission structure that it's like

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this is not acceptable, no, like and what was it

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Mark Zuckerberg who said, like, actually, when you see Trump

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stand up and fist in the air, fight fight fight,

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like this is pretty cool, you know what I mean?

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Like that's pretty cool. And all of a sudden, now

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everybody can Elon Musk buying Twitter and coming out for

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Donald Trump, and all of a sudden, the floodgates open.

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a sudden, now it's except and then you get the

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you know, you get your pioneers, your first followers, and

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then you have all the rest of the people that

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just you know, crash the gates. So back to Jim

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Garritty talking about this at National Review. He points out

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that Gladwell is a in demand public speaker. He gets

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between two hundred and three hundred thousand dollars per speaking fee,

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which is like that, that's Pete calendar money. You have

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to look hard to find a guy with a better, higher,

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or more stable perch in the American cultural elite, he says.

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And I say that because even this guy was afraid

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to say what he really thought for fear of getting canceled.

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Are there other issues where ninety percent of the public

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feels a certain way but only five percent are willing

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to say so for fear of social ostracization and dire

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professional consequences. Of course there are, right why wouldn't there be?

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And then he talks about what's happening over on Blue Sky,

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which was the Twitter competitor. All the lefties were like, oh,

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I can't stand elon, and so they all fled to

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for all of the American liberalism right now, the entire

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Malcolm Gladwell, you know, this credentialed member of the cultural elite,

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admits he was cowed, he was dishonest when he refused

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to express any kind of opposition to the demands of

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transgender activists to allow men to play in women's sports.

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in North Carolina Lo those many years ago, with the

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fight over HB two. I keep bringing this up because

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it's very relevant now that the tide has turned, the

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vibe has shifted. And our former governor who ran on

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this issue to let men into women's bathrooms and locker

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rooms and showers and such, he ran on a campaign

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to win the governor's mansion to beat Pat McCrory by

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oh so few votes. On the HB to issue, and

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now he is running for US Senate and Roy Cooper

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should not be able to dodge these questions about whether

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or not he was wrong about HB two, which he was,

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so that's part of it. Let me get to this email.

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It's from Ron down in Rockhill to Pete at vptecleanershow

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dot com. It's a Pete meal and Ron says, uh,

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he's actually thankfully says for all of the transgender insanity

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sort of, it seems to have been the bridge too

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far that enabled the pendulum to swing back to some

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semblance of rational thinking. Dee I nonsense, defund the police,

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COVID insanity, social justice riots, all of it didn't do it,

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but the transgenderism thing came to the rescue. So yeah,

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I mean there that's the thing, Like, you never know

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what the reaction to these things are going is going

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to be. People can make predictions and such, but nobody knows.

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So yes, more cow bell, Thank you, Bob. And this

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is from South Carolina number who says, tell that guy

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admitting it now after the danger of being canceled has passed,

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it only means that he was a coward for not

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admitting it then. Well and look to his credit, it

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sounds like that's what he was admitting to, right, he

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was acknowledging that he folded. We saw it during COVID

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as well, right when everybody was running around saying, get vaccinated,

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get vaccinated, And I mean I got vaccinated, but I

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never told anybody else to do so. I had co

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morbidities and I was like way overweight, sedentary, like I'm

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probably a high blood pressure and all this. I was like,

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I'm probably in the elevated risk category. I said, but

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everybody could make their own decision. And I was against

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all of the mandates, against the lockdowns and the masking rules,

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all of Roy Cooper's eds. We had a lot of them,

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his executive directives. So so yeah, like I think that that.

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to simply fall into line when you know, the experts

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say something, and that has eroded a lot of the

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trust that we have now in our institutions and the

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quote unquote experts. Okay, this is a very long text.

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I'm not going to be able to read it yet.

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I will come back to that. That's from Baine. I'll

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have to come back to that. But speaking of the

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great cancelation culture collapse. Have you heard the news about

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Barry Weiss. You know who she is. She was a columnist.

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New York Times or something like that. She was very young,

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and you may recall how her cancelation occurred. It was

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over the crazy idea that a sitting US Senator should

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be able to offer an op ed about rioting in

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our cities. Tom Cotton US Senator Tom Cotton submitted an

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op ed to the New York Times, and in it

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he said, Hey, maybe we shouldn't allow all of the

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rioting and looting to occur, and maybe we should actually

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be sending in National guardsmen to quell the riots and

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maintain the peace. And the leftists inside the New York

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Times newsroom had to complete and utter meltdown. They forced

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out the editor that ran the op ed, and then

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Barry Weiss was collateral damage in that because I believe

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she came to the defense of the editor who said

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we should run this. It's a sitting US senator and

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the point is for a newspaper like this is to

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have these discussions. And the leftists were like, no, we

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don't want any discussions, because that's how leftists roll, right.

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to what they want. So Barry Weiss oh, also she

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was pro Israel, and so the leftist did not like

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her for that either, and that was even before October seventh.

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and she talked about this when she launched her sub

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stack publication called The Free Press. And over the last

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five years she has built The Free Press into this

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stable of all of these different voices and journalists doing

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a lot of good work. And now somebody has come

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along and said, we would like to buy you. You

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know who it is, ce BS News. All right, you

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through Bain's text here, it says Years ago, doctor Scott Peck,

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author of the well known The road Less Traveled, wrote

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a lesser known book called The People of the Lie

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a Clinical Look at Evil. His focus was on the

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mass murder of twenty two unarmed South Vietnamese civilians called

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the Myli Massacre, led by the US Lieutenant William Cally

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in March of nineteen sixty eight. The questions raised was

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how in the world could a group of soldiers do this?

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And how no one within the platoons spoke up during

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the atrocity, begging them to stop during it, during and

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after the killings. The gist of a very detailed book

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is that we as humans will do things as a

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group we would never dream of doing as individuals. As

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Malcolm Gladwell suggested, there is a group dynamic that I

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dare say is demonic that overtakes people, as Jesus experienced

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with the crowd yell and crucify him. The and Frank

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example that I gave earlier is also another example of that. Yeah,

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this is this is why they say courage is contagious, right,

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once one person steps forward, then it emboldens somebody else.

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I've talked about the how riots begin. There was a

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sociologist that looked at riots in the sixties and talked

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about how everybody has a number basically, and you know,

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if your number is zero, that means you don't need

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to see anybody else pick up a brick and throw

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it through a window. But if your number is two,

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after you see two people do that, then you join in,

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and then somebody whose number was three sees you, and

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then they join in someone who's numbers four and so

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as you can imagine it just starts. That's again, that's

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a cascading effect, right, just sort of lemming, like just money,

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just kind of rushes where everybody is going. All right,

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let me go over here and talk to Ray. Hello, Ray,

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey Pete, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm all right? How are you all right?

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Speaker 2: I had a couple quick questions maybe you could answer

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it for me. First off, we're saturated via WBT radio

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here in this area with getting the new conservative news

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points out. I was just wondering if that holds true

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across the whole country or are we kind of few

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and far between. And the second question is do you

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think we're making having a better fight of it fighting

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the left like now versus the days of water cron

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Cot and Dan rather. Those are my two questions.

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Speaker 1: So on the first, I am not aware of another

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radio station that has hosts from uh five am until

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nine pm. I'm not aware of that. I think every

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station either starts later or ends much earlier. So we

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are unique, I think in that regard. But there are other,

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you know, conservative news talk radio stations throughout the country.

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There are a bunch of them in all different markets.

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So I don't know if that answers your question or not,

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but I think, yeah, we are. We are unique in

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that regard, Yes, based on the abount of local coverage. Yeah.

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And then what was the second one, that are we

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making any kind of a difference.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we are making a better fight of

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it this day, getting our conservative points out and making

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it known better than we did, say in the days

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of Walter Cronkott and Dan Rather.

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Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, I mean I think so. I mean there's

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you know, it's just like h. Thomas Soul always says that,

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you know, there are no solutions, there were only trade offs.

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And so on the one hand, we lost a lot

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of national unity by having a lot of different media

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sources because now people can get different they can get

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different coverage, they get different opinions and even different news stories. Right,

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so we don't all believe that, you know, this is

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the one big story that America is following, and so

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there's more disunity now in that regard. But on the

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other hand, that's a good thing because if the big three,

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you know, networks didn't cover a story, or the Washington

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Post and the New York Times didn't cover a story,

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then people literally would not know about it. So I think,

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you know, there are trade offs to the disintegration of

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that model. All right, Ray, I appreciate the call. Yeah,

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I mean, there are trade offs to the disintegration of

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that old model. And now you've got social media and

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you've got people that are now being exposed to all

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of descend into the algorithm rabbit hole and they only

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follow the stories they want to follow and they live

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in an echo chamber, then you know, for them, there's

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probably no difference, you know, because they're just still not

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interested in breaking free of that echo chamber. So I think,

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like I said, it's there's just a lot of trade

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offs there. The media ecosystem as it is now. I

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think it will serve whatever purpose you want it to

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serve for yourself, but you have to be your own

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aggregator now versus in the past. All Right, that'll do

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it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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I could not do the show without your support and

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so if you'd like, please support them too and tell

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.