WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:03.799 You're on the night Side with Dan Ray on w 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:15.480 b Z, Boston's news radio and welcome back Gary Tank 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:20.320 Away for Dan ray tonight. Uh, before we get going here, Rob, 4 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:22.960 can we play just one of those uk We're gonna 5 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:24.519 bring in Dan shanty, so you can we play one 6 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:26.679 of those Yuker cuts, the first one for Bob you 7 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:29.160 could die today. We're gonna celebrate his life with Dan 8 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.240 and this is let's play the commercial if we can. 9 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:34.280 You know, one of the best things about being an 10 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:36.600 X Big leaguer is getting preevies to the game call 11 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:38.719 the front office bingo and once. 12 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:40.960 These fans recognize me, I probably won't even have to 13 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:42.240 pay for my life here from Miller. 14 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:46.119 I love them, these fans. No, I'd drink light because 15 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:48.840 it's less Philly and it tastes great good see sir 16 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:51.560 in a wrong say buddy, come on, No, I must 17 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.560 be in the front row. Light beer from Miller everything 18 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:59.840 you always wanted in a beer and less Let's say, hey, buddy, Hey, this. 19 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:05.239 Ta he met the tat tremendous, tremendous Bob Yuker passing 20 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:07.000 away at the age of ninety. Dan Shaughnas, who joins 21 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.359 us from the Boston Globe to talk about you. You know, 22 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:11.840 I was just Danny. I was just going through stuff. 23 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:13.519 Ar kre Did you know he was on the Tonight 24 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:14.799 Show like one hundred times? 25 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:17.560 Oh? Sure, Johnny Carson loved him. I mean that was 26 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.719 kind of a you know, not many guys yet that 27 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.239 kind of a chair as it were, where he was 28 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:27.280 an honored guest and the repeated guests, and you look 29 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.359 at him and they're they're really funny, and he was 30 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:30.480 in there a lot. 31 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.640 He was hilarious. And then you know, I had to 32 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:37.599 look up his numbers. Two hundred batting average, two hundred 33 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.400 and fourteen home runs, one hundred and forty six hits, 34 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.519 it's seventy three at bats. And then of course, you know, 35 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:47.480 as I said before the break, he was like Tommy, 36 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:49.400 there's like two or third generations that didn't know that 37 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.599 this guy played. Did you how well did you know him? 38 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:54.200 And can you just tell us about him? Because I 39 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:55.359 was a huge fan of his. 40 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:58.799 Yeah, not real. Well, I mean, you guys, you and 41 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:00.560 you had a lot in common, of course, being you know, 42 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:03.959 card carrying movie movie stars, you know, with all the 43 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.079 big screen stuff that you both did and are famous for. 44 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.360 But you know, I was aware of him as a 45 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.400 as a player in the sixties when I kind of 46 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:13.599 knew every player. I knew so much more about baseball 47 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:15.719 when I was eight, nine, ten years old than I 48 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:18.159 do now in terms of who's where, who's on the teams. 49 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:20.199 And wasn't as munch turnover then and one of as 50 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:23.400 many teams were players. But he was, yeah, a backup catcher, 51 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:26.520 marginal guide, hardened to pronounce, hard, need to spell, all 52 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.199 that stuff, And he never thought much about him. But 53 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:32.080 then after his playing career was over, he emerged as this. 54 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.000 There had been occasional stories in sport magazine and stuff 55 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:37.240 about you know, this comedian guy was on the bench 56 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.759 for the Cardinals and he kicked around, but all of 57 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.960 a sudden he started showing up, like I said in films, 58 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.680 And it had been in Milwaukee, Gary, I mean, he 59 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:50.719 was a god. There's a statue of him outside the ballpark, 60 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:54.319 and you know, ninety years old. He had many jobs 61 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.719 with the organization, but all the players loved him, and 62 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.439 he was a certified legend walking around and he was 63 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.120 born there and the streets of Milwaukee, so I would 64 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.039 see him at the Hall of Fame every year, you know, 65 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.879 the last ten years or so in Cooperstown. He got 66 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:10.800 the Broadcast Award. He's in the Hall of Fame as 67 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:12.919 a broadcaster, you know, which is the one of the 68 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:17.520 funny things. But he references his fourteen homers. One was 69 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.080 off Colfax, I think one's off necro and one's off 70 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:21.879 Fergie Jenkins. Three of his home runs are off Hall 71 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.840 of famers. So he would always have these punch lines 72 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:26.400 like Cofax wasn't going to make the Hall of Fame 73 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:28.360 because I gave him a home run to him and 74 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.120 and all this stuff. But he, yeah, he was all 75 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:34.319 about the self deprecation. It worked well. And of course 76 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.879 the Miller lte stuff kind of that in the in 77 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.439 the film Roles kind of made him, you know, famous 78 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.560 to a generation of of sports fans because those commercials 79 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:43.520 just aired NonStop. 80 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:48.159 The other legendary baseball person, wasn't it marvelous Marv Thornberry. 81 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.080 I mean he was, yeah, and man Thornberry was famous 82 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:52.400 as part of the original you know, we had a 83 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:54.360 short stint with the sixty two Mets, you know, worst 84 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.360 team everage so this year's White Sox. But he wasn't 85 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.599 a comedian like I mean, Yuka was a jit stand 86 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:02.800 up guy. I mean he could he could do stand 87 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.639 up and as you know, that's a hard thing to do. 88 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:07.240 Oh it's brutal. 89 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.240 But I was just thinking those light Miller like commercials. 90 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:12.000 There are two guys that really didn't play much, but 91 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:17.480 here they had this new life with commercials. Do you 92 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:19.720 know was he any good at play by play or 93 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:20.399 did it matter? 94 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:22.920 Yes? I mean according to people there, I didn't get 95 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.399 to hear a lot, but you know it is. I mean, 96 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:27.759 if you grew up here, you know, you joke astic 97 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:31.000 leon for today's people just retired. And when I was 98 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:33.240 a kid, it was Kurt Goudi And we've had a 99 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:35.560 lot of good ones here and Ned Martin and all 100 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:37.920 these guys. But yes, you was he was. He was 101 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.839 valued for that. He was a clubhouse guy. He had 102 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:43.480 great relationships with the players, the Brewers. You know, they 103 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.040 went through Rob and yeah, Paul Malader. You know they 104 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.240 got to the World Series eighty two, never won it. 105 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:52.079 He scouted for the team briefly bud Sea League. I 106 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.800 think Buzzz over ninety years old as well, so this 107 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:58.519 probably hit him pretty hard. But in terms of Milwaukee legends, 108 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:00.639 this guy would be right up there. 109 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:02.639 Hey, Rob, can we play the next thing? I was 110 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.759 gonna say it from the next segment, but let's play. 111 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:07.959 Let's play you from major leagues here if we can. 112 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:10.680 Put them on into the wind up. In his first offering, 113 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:15.000 Jos the bit outside. He tried the corner and missed. 114 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:18.759 All four, all. 115 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:23.279 Eight, lo and On has walked the bases loaded on 116 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:24.560 twelve straight pitches. 117 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.720 Boy, how can these guys layoff pitches that close? 118 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:29.079 Yeah? 119 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.399 How many times did we say just a bit outside? 120 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.839 Oh my god, it's such a I mean, everybody's ever 121 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:36.959 gotten behind the microphone's got to try it out at 122 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:41.000 least once, right, So it's a baseball staple. Now that 123 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:44.160 stuff became part of the language. And I'll tell you Gary, 124 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.120 I didn't know him really well, but he would make 125 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:49.639 everyone at the table feel really included that. He was 126 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:52.639 a very generous guy. He's a very fit guy. I mean, 127 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:57.399 he's stayed in tremendous shape, you know, kind of like 128 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.399 one of these guys literally into his ninety he was 129 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.839 still in game day shape. And and you know, made 130 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.920 the whole business about how bad he was. But as 131 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.480 as you and I know, being around it, making the 132 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:10.439 big leagues is a really hard thing to do. It 133 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.160 it makes you, you know, one in a million, and 134 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.000 he was that in that way. And of course with 135 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:16.959 his personality, well. 136 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.800 Yeah, if you hit two hundred in major leagues, I 137 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:21.920 mean in the big leagues, you're obviously you're a hell 138 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:22.480 of a player. 139 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:24.360 But he made so. 140 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.879 I mean, he was awesome at being the lovable loser, 141 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:29.279 you know if you will. 142 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.120 But yeah, when I saw that today, I was like, you, 143 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.879 geat he was. He was. Definitely he was one of 144 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:36.519 the great ones. 145 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:39.079 I mean in the light the Middle of Light campaign 146 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:41.160 included a lot of star you know, I read outback 147 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.680 as part of that, as you say, Tommy Heinsen, and 148 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.480 and really that was sort of the beginning of the 149 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.480 jocks getting into that sort of thing. And you see 150 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:51.480 a lot of it now. I mean, Lebron's doing them 151 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:54.680 there and and they're they're on all the time. Of course, 152 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:59.399 now they were usually betting commercials, and I suppose there 153 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.560 was no stigma about doing a beer commercial back in 154 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:03.560 those days, and a lot of them did it it, 155 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.120 being in with George Steinbrenner, Billy Martin, all those guys. 156 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:08.920 So a lot of big figures from the sixties and seventies. 157 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.639 Well, my favorite Miller like well, I always loved the 158 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:15.920 ones with Tommy was in there. But when uh, who 159 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.439 threw Billy Marttin out of the bar? Was that Luciano 160 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:20.279 You're out of the bar? 161 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:23.199 Or was that probably? Yeah he was, he was one 162 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:24.639 of the cast members of that group. 163 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:25.519 Yeah, you're out of the bar. 164 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.920 But I remember when the Madden running through the leftield 165 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:30.879 wall was also a great one. 166 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:33.360 Well, Bubba Smith tearing off the can at the top 167 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:35.560 of the can, the easy opening Canva, the first the 168 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:38.240 first days of the flip top cans and Bubba just 169 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:39.600 ripped off the whole top of the can. 170 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.639 Yeah, I'm sure that was one take. I know Tommy. 171 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.920 Tommy loved those residuals back in the good old days. Dan, 172 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:47.720 can you hang out and just talk some sports with me? 173 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.319 Coming up next, all right, Daran Shanna guessing the Boston Globe. 174 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.000 We remember Bob Buker. Gotta talk to him about Brabel. 175 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:55.120 We all know Rabel. I'm anxious to get Dan's thoughts 176 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.079 on this coming up next on WBZ. Now back to 177 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.759 Dan Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios. 178 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:06.000 I'm WBZ News Radio. You know history always repeats itself. 179 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:09.519 Dan Shaughnessy here the Boston Globe, and I because of this, 180 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:11.800 because Dan and I have been around so long, I 181 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:14.839 often think of Shaughnessy and Dan. He's a perfect example 182 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.279 when I thought of you. The other day, Mike Rabel 183 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.120 comes to the podium. We all know Mike's gonna be 184 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:21.480 the new coach down Aaron Foxborough. 185 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:22.160 And he. 186 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:26.480 Calls out Roachie, Hey, Roachie right, and it's a big 187 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.600 love fest. And he goes to Kurran and he goes 188 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:32.879 to the other that's Sports Hub and everything's great. And 189 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.840 I remember when you wrote an article about Bob Kraft 190 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:38.000 buying the Patriots and how it was a good thing 191 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:43.080 and you warned him, you say, Robert, it's. 192 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:44.720 Not always going to be like this. 193 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:49.799 And I just I when Vrabel it was this big homecoming, 194 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:53.279 this big love in and I wanted to call Mike 195 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.759 I don't have his number and say, you know, enjoy 196 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:58.559 it now, but when you start zero and four, it's 197 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.840 gonna change. Or if you are owned for you know 198 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.960 what I mean. It's it's it's I get nervous. 199 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.000 Yeah, you have a good memory, Gary, that was the 200 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.639 nineteen ninety three or four whatever, and the Governor Weld 201 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:13.399 was at the press conference and it was down and 202 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.000 it was you know, the team was basically being saved. 203 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.240 A local guy was buying a team, and there had 204 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:20.240 been the threat of James Orthwine moved him to Saint 205 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.840 Louis and all this stuff, so you know, we were delighted. 206 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:24.840 And Kraft had been perceived as kind of a tire 207 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.720 kicker and you know, checking anything that came up for sale. 208 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.080 He had owned the Boston tennis team, the Lobsters and 209 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.879 the kind of you know, old Carnival Barker stuff from 210 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.080 the seventies. So when he emerged as a buyer of 211 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.360 the Patriots, it was like, okay, this guy is not 212 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.000 going to go anywhere, and this is great. So I 213 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:44.480 wrote a you know, just whenever one of the locals like, 214 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:46.559 same way we would have supported Joe O'donnald he bought 215 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.480 the Red Sox or this kind of thing, It's like, hey, 216 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.120 this guy knows what the spawn boats are and all 217 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:51.960 this stuff. It was just one of those you know, 218 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.600 easy columns and the local guy buying the team, and 219 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.799 I remember he framed it. He called me the next day. 220 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:00.120 Oh was he just was so happy with this, and 221 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.440 I did. I said, Bob, you know, try and remember 222 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.279 this day because there's going to be a kind of 223 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:05.720 a point in time when you might not be that 224 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:08.120 happy with my my opinion, I said, I wrote that 225 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.000 because I think it's true, and that's my that's my 226 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:12.200 take today. I'm glad you like it, but there will 227 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:13.559 be a time and I won't be that great And 228 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:17.000 of course not great with us now, but I'm not 229 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:18.960 a fan of the owners in general in town. So 230 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.639 that's kind of the way that eventually works. But you know, 231 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:24.000 he's he's been a good owner. But you have good memory. 232 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.000 That great, it's thirty years ago and that did happen. 233 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:27.159 Oh, I love that story. 234 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:29.919 I love because it's so true and I remember it 235 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:32.559 because I had friends of mine family friends have bought 236 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.159 the Celtics and this was I don't want to say 237 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.759 names with This is when Wick and you know a 238 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.840 lot of owners got involved and they you know, and 239 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.879 I told that person, I said, you know, you might 240 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:47.360 want to you might want to unpublish your number. And 241 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.679 it's great that you guys are all getting the love now, 242 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:52.080 but it's going to change, you know, And it did. 243 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.360 It's just I mean, that's the way it is now. 244 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.000 The thing is man course, but the thing with Verbel 245 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.279 is well, well, first of all, I have to say, 246 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.960 as being a civilian, I'm just I don't get pissed 247 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:07.960 off at sports, and I never I mean I did 248 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.480 a little bit, but not as much as some other guys. 249 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.039 But you know, I loved Geri Mayo. I think he's 250 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.320 a great guy. I wish you had worked out better, 251 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:17.519 and that's just the way I feel. I'm not gonna 252 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:20.039 slam him, I thought, you know, I'm just not. And 253 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.360 then with Rabel, I liked Rabel a lot too, But Danny, 254 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:27.279 he's got no players and it's going to be a while. 255 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:30.120 Yeah, that woll feel good in the last few days 256 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:32.159 is a nice thing, but it doesn't really carry over 257 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.519 when the games start. I think that, you know, I 258 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:36.919 think better coaching can get you a little bit in 259 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:40.440 that sport, but you know, really it's procuring players and 260 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.200 the draft and free agents and trades or whatever you 261 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.360 want we can do. So they've got to beef up 262 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:47.360 the roster. But I think in that area he'll be 263 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:49.960 stronger too. And I think part of the areas is, 264 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.279 you know, hopefully we're going to see the capable coach 265 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:57.399 can control the franchise and the roster, and that worked 266 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:00.759 with Parcels. It worked with Belichier for long long time. 267 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:03.360 Bill wasn't doing great with the draft and procumbing the 268 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.519 players at the end, and the craft seemed to get 269 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.639 I thought, more involved toward the end, and the drafting 270 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.919 got more sketchy and and willingness to pony up and 271 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.120 reach the cap and all that stuff. So I just 272 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:17.559 hope that, you know, the Brabel, I would assume made 273 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:20.320 a condition of coming here that he has control of 274 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.879 the team and they're turning it back to a football guy, 275 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:25.679 which is what they do instead of you know, Jonathan 276 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:29.840 Kraft or Robin Glazer or whoever's been making Elliot Wolf. 277 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.000 It seems like a nice guy, but we don't have 278 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:34.840 a lot of body of evidence that he's the answer either. 279 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:37.240 But I think having the single voice, I think it 280 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.559 worked well with Parcels and Belichick, and I think it 281 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:41.279 can work well again if they let this guy do 282 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:42.039 it well. 283 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.320 I hope they do. And I'm sure they made assurances. 284 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:46.799 I don't know if it was in writing, which I 285 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:51.159 would feel a little bit better because I do. Look, 286 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:55.519 there's the one thing I will say about about the 287 00:12:55.559 --> 00:13:00.519 Craft's family is they won. And I understand there's there's 288 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.039 a lot of different opinions. You know, I have different 289 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.720 opinions about the Celtics ownership. You know, they've won. It 290 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:08.480 seems they had the best attention to win. They just 291 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.559 got to let the guy do the job. I mean, yeah, 292 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:16.559 let him do the job. And you know, I hope 293 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:17.159 that happens. 294 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:20.639 Yeah, that that's generally been the best, the best answer 295 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.080 here when you have the right guy. And Mao not 296 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.200 his fault. He wasn't the right guy and then he 297 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.639 just he didn't have a great roster, but but he 298 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:30.759 was not prepared to be a head coach in the NFL, 299 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.759 and that's not his fault. So Rabel is Rabel's done 300 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:37.639 it for six years and and Uh is older and 301 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:39.799 established in the league. He was coach of the Year 302 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.919 once he got to the AC championship, and he knows 303 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:45.320 what he's doing. He's a little bit of a wise 304 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:47.200 ass and all that stuff that we like. So hopefully 305 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:48.080 this will be a good run. 306 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.480 Yeah, I think the key is I mean, if he'll 307 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:53.720 I talked to Burt Breyer earlier, and this is the 308 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:55.639 way Bert thinks it's going to go down is that 309 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:58.480 whoever he has, whoever's in the front office, whether it's 310 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:00.600 Elliot or somebody else, he's got to get. You know, 311 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.919 they're doing the legwork, they're doing the board, they're doing 312 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:06.720 the scouting, you know, and he'll coach. 313 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:08.480 And he can approve certain things. 314 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:10.600 But like Bert said to me, and I didn't know this, 315 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.799 he goes Bill would be like in a in a 316 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.879 meeting on a Friday at nine about you know, who's 317 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.519 coming up in the next draft, you know. And Bert 318 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.480 seem to think that Rabel won't do that, he'll that'll 319 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:24.600 turn to other people. 320 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.279 Who have to bring the information to him. So hopefully 321 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:27.919 that's the case. 322 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:30.639 I do want to I do want to point out 323 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:34.000 the Celtics and how do you feel about that ownership situation. 324 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.000 Well, it's strange. I think the globe's going to be 325 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.960 Silverman's got something that there's identified for for principles to 326 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:45.279 make bids. Padle Huku group, you know, is one, and 327 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:49.559 beyond that we don't know. It's I expect sometime during 328 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:51.480 the month, and I don't know how this works when 329 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.799 you have four bidders and what's what's disclosed and they 330 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.080 got to choose one. But it's it's it's finally moving along. 331 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:00.679 Because it's been so quiet on that front for so long. 332 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.559 I'm beginning to wonder perhaps it was just tep of interest, 333 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.919 or the market stopping for this or whatnot. I'm not 334 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:09.919 a business guy. I really don't know, but patle Uka 335 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.440 express the interest out of the gate. He's been close 336 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.440 to a long time, and I think for fans that's 337 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:17.919 that's a desirable outcome because it's a it represents a 338 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:21.039 continuation of how they've been doing business and the same 339 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:22.960 guy who's been part of this for twenty three years. 340 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:26.600 So I'd be for that. But you don't know the 341 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.039 boogeyman that I'm out there. We don't have Jeff Bezos 342 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:32.840 or or who might be involved with the other bids. 343 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:34.720 But we're gonna find out pretty soon, I expect. 344 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:36.879 Do you think it's had an impact on the team's performance. 345 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.960 No, these guys are oblivious to that. And you know 346 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.320 this is I don't get all loud enough about regular 347 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:45.480 season NBA, and I guess I did a little bit 348 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:48.120 when I covered the team thirty years ago, but you 349 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:50.759 know they want a championship. They have the best roster. 350 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:54.879 They're mailing in a little bit now a little too often. 351 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:57.320 They're probably not going to be the top seed now 352 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.879 because they've got twice as many losses as Cleveland Oak City, 353 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.000 So you could lose that in the potential playoff rounds 354 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.759 with those teams. But I'm still hoping for Celtics NIXT 355 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:07.440 somewhere in the playoffs, which I think would be a 356 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:09.960 good a good battle and like to see them be 357 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:13.799 competitive again. It's hard to win these things every year, 358 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.159 even if you have the best team, so they need 359 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:18.960 to watch it. But I don't get too toying up. 360 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:21.600 I mean ridiculous games this week, you know, losing to 361 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:24.320 Toronto and having a close game with the Pelicans. That's 362 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:24.840 just crazy. 363 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.399 I just think it's hard to turn it back on 364 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:28.519 once you you know. 365 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:30.840 That's again I always have to preface this. 366 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.000 I don't want to go old bastard, but you know, 367 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.360 the Larry Birds and the Bob Gibson's and the Michael 368 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.720 Jordan's and the Magic Johnston's they never let it slip, 369 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.840 you know, they never took their foot off the gas. 370 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.000 And yeah, and they were you know, these are all 371 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.039 the teams do and once you do, it's hard to 372 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:47.600 get it back. 373 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:50.440 Different league now, the knight's off and the back to 374 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:52.440 back and the low advantage and stuff and all this 375 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.639 stuff where they're consciously resting guys, which is really consumer 376 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:58.000 rip off for people that pay an enormous amount of 377 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.360 tickets and maybe this is the only game they're going too, 378 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.360 and Tatum's taking a night off or whatever they're they're 379 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.519 planned nights off and they do it, and then there's 380 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:07.599 sometimes they're playing and they're still taking the night off. 381 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.039 But that's been going on for a while. I understand it. 382 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.519 And you look at the wind totals, I mean the 383 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.720 Celtic City reference. They still they still lost, you know, 384 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:19.240 twenty twenty five games a year, so those were coming 385 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:19.920 from somewhere. 386 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:22.440 Yep, Danny, it's great to talk to you. 387 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:25.480 Thanks for coming on and talking about you and I 388 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.359 we always love seeing your stuff in the globe. You 389 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:31.519 are you are the last man standing. You are holding 390 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:32.640 everybody accountable. 391 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.200 I appreciate that. Gary, it's always great talking to you. 392 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.480 All Right, we'll see it it, it'll be good. That's Shaughnessy. 393 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:41.119 He is the last man standing. I mean, I have 394 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.559 my buddies over on Sports Talk Radio two. I mean, 395 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:46.559 don't get me wrong there, those guys crack me up. 396 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:50.279 But when it comes to the the nights of the 397 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:54.799 keyboard and with a lot of facts, I mean sports Look, 398 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:57.920 I worked at sports radio for years. It's opinion, it's conjectures, 399 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:00.480 you know, but there's nothing like it. It's nothing like 400 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:05.519 a Blazing Shaughnessy article. Those things are just legendary. 401 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:05.880