WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.319 How can you couldn't just go home, dude, That's all 2 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:06.040 we had to do. Stin, What the fuck? It was 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:09.119 all planned out? You knew this whole time? 4 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:11.759 Why because it was me. 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:14.640 I'm the one who took a dump in the urinal. 6 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:17.480 What the stars were full? And I didn't want to 7 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:19.320 miss recess. I didn't think you would trying to do 8 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:22.160 such a big deal. So you blamed the government, and 9 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:24.519 the government was more than willing to take the blame 10 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:26.519 so long as it made them look responsible for nine 11 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:28.399 to eleven. Kick As. 12 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.719 Welcome to Going down to South Park, the podcast where 13 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:37.240 we always have ourselves a what mister Davis. 14 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:40.960 A raging clue ranging what oh good time always ever 15 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:41.600 salves a time? 16 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.399 We always have ourselves a time indeed, and this week 17 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:47.320 we're going to be dropping a deuce the urinal, the 18 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:51.359 urinal due, here's a mystery mischief, the urinal duty Soundander. 19 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.119 And I am guy. Yes, Welcome to the podcast where 20 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:56.119 we believe that nine eleven was in fact an inside jobs. 21 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:59.079 I try to buy the uh, not just the American government, 22 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:01.799 but the whole New world. Mark Chapman did it, didn't he? Oh? Yeah? 23 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.000 So yeah, you just read Catcher in the roy I 24 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.200 won too many times, like time to take down a 25 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:08.120 couple of skyscrapers. 26 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:10.040 Yes, indeed, yes, we don't want to make jokes about 27 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:11.680 nine eleven. We've got we do not, we do not. 28 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:16.799 But when such a momentous event happens, yeah, I think 29 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:20.120 that's a sort of a natural inclination. Not you don't 30 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:23.400 go automatically low like inside job or conspiracy theory or 31 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.799 something like that, but you start to think, could it maybe? 32 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:31.920 Well, I think every generation has their their big conspiracy theory, right, sure, Well, 33 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:33.599 who would have had roswo that was was that in 34 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:34.879 the fifties sixties? 35 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:38.239 Was well, things that didn't really sort of gain traction 36 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:39.719 until the seventies or so. 37 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.879 The big one was the moon landing. Right before before 38 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:45.840 me was the moon landing, right JFK assassinationssassination. 39 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:46.159 See. 40 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:48.439 I knew of these conspiracy theories, but I didn't have 41 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:50.840 that emotional connection to them because I didn't live through them. 42 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:52.920 I think nine to eleven was the first real big 43 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.159 conspiracy theory that I. 44 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:55.400 Didn't live through. 45 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.120 But I was alive when it happened, and I was like, 46 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:59.319 oh and you just see it, and was just starting 47 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.319 to come out and you see doctored images via email, 48 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:03.040 people saying. 49 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:07.239 Look there's a face in this smoke. Well ship, mister devil. 50 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:11.520 What was that? There was that documentary called Loose Change, 51 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:13.599 I think it was. It was all about the nine 52 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.400 to eleven conspiracy theories. And I think they are they 53 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.759 name checking this. It's Charlie Sheen and someone else, Paul 54 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.840 or Abdul Maybe I don't know, but yeah, they were like, 55 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:26.879 and I say legitimate people talking about Charlie Shane, but 56 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.240 like big names were like, well, you know it was 57 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.199 it wasn't just the way they say it was. There's 58 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:33.840 a lot more to it than that was it? Though? Yeah? 59 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.919 I mean you it's very easy if you were I 60 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:40.360 don't know either, someone who likes to believe in the 61 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:43.000 status quo. It's very easy to be like like. 62 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:45.759 Really, well, that's one of my favorite moments. Was I 63 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:50.599 love cul deliver delivery of really really really because the 64 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.240 thing is you don't believe it because you just try 65 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:56.039 to be you try to have this mindset of I'm 66 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:58.240 not an art word as they use in this episode here, 67 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.879 I'm very heavily so yeah, yeah, very so indeed. I'm 68 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.879 just you know, I'm thinking logically, like, what is the 69 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:05.080 logical explanation for this? 70 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:06.039 What's what we see? 71 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:08.159 What they explain is usually what it is, right, but 72 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:11.039 people need to find No, they can't possibly be it. 73 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:13.800 We can't possibly be that stupid. We can't possibly have 74 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:15.680 allowed these people to take hijacked planes and do this. 75 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:16.919 There has to be another reason. 76 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:17.759 We have to have. 77 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.080 Done it ourselves, our government and I love the twists 78 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:22.719 and this of the government going, well, we planted the 79 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:24.599 conspiracies to make everyone think that we were in control 80 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:25.599 of them. 81 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:28.360 Are you Are you ware of the term Ockham's razor? 82 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:29.520 Do you know what that means? I don't know what 83 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.240 it means, but I've definitely had it, yeah, which is 84 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:36.759 essentially it means the simplest explanation is often the correct one. Yeah. Yeah, 85 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:39.960 pissed off Muslim, Yes, that's what it is. 86 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:42.919 But I did lie the way throughout though they constantly 87 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.560 made you. It was like twists and turns anything, Wait, 88 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:48.039 parkms don't believe it's real. Oh shit. It sort of 89 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:50.680 it fed into the people who want to believe conspiracies. 90 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:54.319 See it was there, and like, no, it wasn't. 91 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.199 This is a really good job of plotting vibe. So 92 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:00.599 who you know, we tend to admire they're plotting and 93 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:04.000 storytelling skills. But I mean this wrong footed you in 94 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.360 so many different ways and just really kept you engaged 95 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:09.240 and on top of the humor of it, which was 96 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.199 pretty funny, but yeah, the way it just turned into 97 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:17.720 this ongoing really really yeah yeah, No, I really enjoyed 98 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:19.879 that aspect. I really enjoyed that aspect of it. 99 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:22.600 Because I think today's version of nine to eleven or 100 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:25.839 today's conspiracy theory, the big conspiracy theory of today's generation 101 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:30.720 is either COVID or Trump's failed assassination with the ear 102 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.759 How did his ear heal so quickly? And why was 103 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:35.439 there a flag in the perfect spot? And why was 104 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:37.879 he not running away scared? That kind of thing, like 105 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:39.759 I don't fit into it, and all. 106 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:43.759 That stuff about why don't we know anything about these shooters? Yeah, 107 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:45.879 I mean often when there's when you have things like 108 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:50.720 there's you've got news agencies or intelligence apparatus sort of 109 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:54.600 going deeply and into who this person was and what 110 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.360 motivated them. You don't know, I don't remember the shooter's 111 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.920 name at all. You just move on to today's world 112 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:07.160 bit of news. Next day yeah, I mean JD Vans 113 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.759 US Vice President Jadvance copped a lot of flak for this, 114 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.319 but I get the feeling there's a nugget of truth 115 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:16.279 in there. He said on some podcasts recently that the 116 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.519 Watergate scandal and basically, you know, got Richard Nixon kicked 117 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.959 out of the White House, that would be like a 118 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:25.959 twelve hour incident. The news cycle would just be like, oh, 119 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.439 what they broke in and they were doing this and 120 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:32.120 the president sort of knew about it. Yeah, okay, and yeah, 121 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.120 twelve hours later, people have moved on to the next thing. 122 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:37.560 Everyone's like, well, that just speaks volumes about how you know, 123 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:39.279 degraded our political system. 124 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:43.439 Is like, yes, but also our attention spans for hops 125 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.439 are fucked. It's interesting because Nicol and I were watching 126 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:48.240 an episode of Law and Order from a couple of 127 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:50.560 years ago, season twenty fourth, so we've been like twenty 128 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:54.639 twenty four five and we're watching it. I'm going, why 129 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:55.600 does this feel familiar? 130 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:56.240 With this story? 131 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:01.279 So a guy shoots the cee of a private health 132 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:04.000 insurance and he's on the run, and all these people 133 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:05.839 are trying to help all the all the residents of 134 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:07.800 New York, like helping him get away, and I'm. 135 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:11.480 Like, why is this. Oh, it's that Luigi GUYII. And 136 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:12.720 I was like, did he get a victor? I looked 137 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:13.839 it up and I was like, oh, he still hasn't 138 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:16.480 go to But it's like remember when he was everyone 139 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.600 was talking about how long did Luigi was? Twenty twenty four? 140 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:21.879 So this was a rip from there. I mean, it 141 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.560 wasn't like it wasn't like Simps was predicted that. It 142 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:25.519 predicted that. 143 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:27.399 It was a parody of that because at the end, 144 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.439 because Lauren or does that so oft because at the 145 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.560 end he goes to trial and like we find a 146 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:37.920 defendant cut the black, I don't know who what they's like, yeah, yeah, was. 147 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:41.759 Like WHOA done it again? 148 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.680 But the thing is my point was that it was like, 149 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.720 remember when that Luigi guy was what everyone was talking about, 150 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:49.480 and now it's like is he in jail yet? 151 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:52.000 Like you just move on? Oh you really do? Don't 152 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:52.959 you just move on? 153 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:55.199 But yeah, I just thought that a really good job 154 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.560 of just tackling conspiracy theories here. But my question is 155 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:02.439 watching this episode in particular, in twenty twenty six, we 156 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.199 lived through nine to eleven, so it rings true with us, right, yeah, 157 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:07.839 we're coming up to the twenty fifth anniversary then we are, indeed, 158 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:11.319 But anyone under twenty five watching this, would they really care? 159 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.839 Would they be? Like? Because do people still talk about 160 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.399 nine to eleven conspiracy theories? And unless you live through it? 161 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:20.600 But even if you live through it, have we have 162 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:23.680 we kind of as a as a general populate population 163 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.199 for the majority of us, have we just moved on 164 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.120 and just kind of accepted it was. 165 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:29.639 Just the Muslims. It was just a terrorist. 166 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:34.399 I shouldn't say the Muslims. It was a terrorist. They 167 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.519 were Muslims, but they were terrorists, not because that wasn't 168 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:37.120 they were terrorists? 169 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:42.199 Correct? Yeah? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean yeah, 170 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:46.879 I always think that September eleven truthers or whatever. We're 171 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:50.399 a very small subset of people. It gets to a point, 172 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:52.399 I guess, to a point where people go, I just 173 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:54.839 don't care anymore. The moon landing. It's like you commit 174 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.439 now and say it's fake, and people go whatever. What 175 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.160 I always say is because like I always say, print 176 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:02.839 the legend. I mean, if the moon landing was fake, 177 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:08.199 it's like so much positive stuff will still emerge from it. Nonetheless, 178 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:10.120 I mean, even the stuff that led up to it 179 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.879 with you know, JFK saying things like we choose to 180 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:14.879 go to the moon night because it's easy, but because 181 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.600 it is hard. It's like, that's a really great message, 182 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.959 like push yourself, do hard as shit, have grand ambitions. 183 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.360 It's like, and there was a time when you know, 184 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.680 for the President was actually saying that to you go, yeah, 185 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.319 we're capable. Really, you know, if we push us there, 186 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.279 we're capable of really great things. And if we didn't 187 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:34.919 actually go, I mean, it's still a pretty impressive achievement. 188 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:36.519 Faking everything like that. 189 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.039 It's funny that the people who have the conspiracy of 190 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.480 the moonlanding being fake fake, right, the people who believe that, 191 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.080 are they the same people who believe that nine to 192 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:47.919 eleven was an inside job, because it feels like they're 193 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:49.039 opposite sides of the spectrum. 194 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.360 Yeah, that's really interesting. I'd love to see sort of 195 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:54.279 a Venn diagram of what conspiracy theorists believe in and 196 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.320 if someone is like a conspiracy theorist across the board, 197 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:02.279 if they're like, that's not true, that's not true, that's 198 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.679 not true. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. 199 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.559 I don't believe that then you'll never believe anything. Well, 200 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:07.639 that's true. It's hard. 201 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.879 Twenty six with AI and everything, of course, but the 202 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:13.600 thing is you can always trust us. The reason I 203 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.559 asked that question was that so the people who believe 204 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:18.879 the Moonline moonlanning was fake are doing it because they 205 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:20.720 believe there's no way the American government could do this. 206 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:21.120 Right. 207 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:23.480 The people who believe nine to eleven was inside job 208 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:26.120 are believing are saying that the government is so good 209 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.759 and so powerful that they created this inside job. So 210 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.399 it's saying one saying that the government's two in nept 211 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.039 and had to fake it, the other one saying the 212 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:37.120 government is so well organized they're able to fake this 213 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:38.480 this terrorist attack. 214 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:42.000 Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of conspiracy theorists 215 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:46.679 take that mindset because they like to think that someone 216 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:48.480 is in charge, or they like to think that there's 217 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:51.000 some grand plan behind it all and that it's not 218 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:54.360 all just random. I find it awfully confusing, which is 219 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.000 why I just tend to toe the party line. It's 220 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.120 like we went to the moon. I believe there are 221 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:00.159 there is life on other planets. I don't think it 222 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.360 looks like little gray dudes, because I think it's if 223 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.399 there is life somewhere else, it's probably like bacteria or 224 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:08.200 a mist or something like that. Someone just drew aliens once. 225 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:11.320 It's like, that's what aliens look like forever, pretty much 226 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.919 like we've just accepted that's what aliens look like. 227 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.600 Well, that's the thing. I mean. You We've talked about 228 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:20.159 Steven Spielberg a lot on Avaad podcast, on our various podcasts, 229 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:22.440 and on you know, the movie Guy with Marlton Davis. 230 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.720 We talked about Close Encounters. I think that was the 231 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:27.440 first time that you saw like the alien that had 232 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:30.440 the big head and the very slender body. I think, Okay, 233 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:34.679 it seems to me unless there was you know, stuff 234 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:36.480 prior to that in the seventies, or it's like I 235 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:38.960 was addictive aliens and they look like this, But it 236 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.159 feels like Close Encounter was kind of like ground zero 237 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:44.120 for creating that alien, and now that seems to be 238 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:47.159 the default mode for all aliens, right, big head, slender body, 239 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:48.080 even to this day. 240 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:50.600 I won't spoil things, but you know the film talking 241 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:56.240 about from this year, I do project al Mary. But 242 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:59.320 the other story to this one was that there was 243 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.320 a herd found in the toilet by mister Mackie in 244 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.080 the urinal, Yes, and he had to get to the 245 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:06.080 bottom of it, and they tried to somehow link that 246 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.120 with nine to eleven. Comes this big, you know, cat 247 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.320 and mouse story about trying to find out you know. 248 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:13.759 So it starts off with him trying to find out 249 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:15.759 who did the third in the toilet in the urinal. 250 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.639 Then it becomes the government responsible. Is that how it 251 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.240 all works out? They tried to linked the nine to 252 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.559 eleven the common lists to nine to eleven because Kyle 253 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.759 was the master in line behind nine to eleven. 254 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.639 And he's got his big theory. What is the theory? 255 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:31.320 It's basically it's like one fast one. Yeah, I've never 256 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.200 dived too deeply into conspiracy theory. 257 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:38.279 Two towers, Yes, two minus one is one one and 258 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:42.240 one is eleven and the nine members of Silverstein's Silverstein 259 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:44.720 Silversteine's Who's Silverstein by the way, I don't know, but 260 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.519 he says silver Stein at this point probably, Well, I get. 261 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:49.600 The feeling it might be just a stereotypically Jewish name 262 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.799 and love the look, but it could be Silverstein. Nine 263 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.919 to elevens of a look. Larry Silverstein is an American 264 00:11:55.960 --> 00:12:00.440 billionaire businessman, so is he the guy who is shordered 265 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:02.440 like a lot of Stock's the real estate of Alpert 266 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:04.399 who signed a ninety nine year lease for the World 267 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.120 Trade Center complex in July two thousand and one, just 268 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.080 six weeks before the attacks. And he took out like 269 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.519 a bunch of insurance or something. Oh wow, Okay. 270 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.360 History includes a routine doctor's appointment that saved his life, 271 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:17.399 a massive insurance payout, and leading the two decade rebuilding 272 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:20.840 effort of ground zero. So yeah, his so his board 273 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:23.759 of directors had nine people nine plus eleven nine nine 274 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.799 eleven the final question. Yeah, final equation two minus one 275 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:30.519 plus nine eleven equals twelve. Most mind is Kyle because 276 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:33.919 he benefited both doing because he did well in. 277 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:34.639 His spelling test. 278 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.480 You got the store on twelve days after the nine 279 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:38.960 eleven text. 280 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:42.039 It was this be hugely. But that's what conspiracy do 281 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:44.919 is do. Except yeah, when you break it all down 282 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.840 like that, I'm not saying it holds worter, but it's like, oh, 283 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:50.440 Bak Winstone actually did their research, and I love the 284 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.120 reaction here. It's one of my favorites. Let's get the 285 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:52.720 favorite moments. 286 00:12:52.919 --> 00:13:02.679 Yeah, Clyde there, whoa, because that's what happens. 287 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.080 There's always at least one person in the gets there 288 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.240 min Oh yeah, it gets the entire world rocks. Yeah 289 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:09.000 by that kind of. 290 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:10.799 Yeah, I read that was the one. The first time 291 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:13.120 I read I would have been like, I know, twelve thirteen. 292 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.919 It was like, do you think that maybe oxygen is 293 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.320 actually poison? Oh, it's like the cancer to us and 294 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.240 it's just killing us slowly until we die. And I'm like, 295 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.679 oh shit, oh shit, it's oxygen that's killing us, but 296 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:27.879 we need it to breathe. 297 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.080 Oh great, now I'm going Now I'm gonna be thinking 298 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:36.679 about that when every breath that day, like oxygen is 299 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.279 what is the thing that's killing us? But we need it. 300 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:40.559 It's a real slow release. 301 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:43.120 Yeah yeah, it just kills some of us faster than others. Yeah, 302 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.039 I'm like, oh fuck, that actually makes sense. 303 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.000 That might take you ninety six years to kill you, 304 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.879 but it'll get yet. Actually it's it's probably wrong, but 305 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:51.200 I remember reading it for the first one was a 306 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.679 kid going That was the first one I went, whoa, oh, yeah, 307 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.519 I'm sure if we went to any any sign, does 308 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.639 it anyone with any knowledge of like, yeah, how you're 309 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:03.639 lung work? For instance, they would say no, that's completely wrong, 310 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:06.200 and here's why. Yeah. The thing of it is, yeap, 311 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:10.399 science needs better ambassadors or better spokespeople. I mean we 312 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:12.679 do have a fair few of them. Doctor Carl maybe, 313 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:21.440 doctor Phil, doctor non natural doctor. Remember, oh, this would 314 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.159 be before your time. But when growing up, when I 315 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:24.600 was a kid, there was a show that was on 316 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:27.440 like post school. It was like four four point thirty 317 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:29.120 PM or whatever called The Curiosity Show. 318 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:30.759 Are you aware of this? No, I will look it up. 319 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:32.919 Watch you hit about the Curiosity Show. 320 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.279 Yeah. This was on Channel nine and it was basically 321 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:37.919 like a side show. I think America had this. Is 322 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.120 that it? Yeah that sounds about seventy two nineteen seasons. Yeah, 323 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:42.399 I had a bunch of guys who look like they're 324 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.399 being on watch List. Now. So is this an American show? No, 325 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.720 this was Australian really. Yeah, but they would, I think, 326 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:50.600 to the best of my recollection, they would do like 327 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.159 science experiments and things like that. It went to nineteen 328 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:56.559 ninety so it was hosted by Rob Morrison and Dianne 329 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:01.200 Hutton or was that Dianne maybe Dean Hutton his work Yeah, yeah, Dean. 330 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.960 So it's Dean with E on the end. Yeah, Dean Hutton. 331 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.360 The show was produced by Banks Your Productions. Five hundred 332 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:08.919 episodes were produced across nineteen seasons. Clips from the episodes 333 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:10.840 have been archived on YouTube for preservation. 334 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:14.759 That sounds awesome. I love that YouTube, does it? That's 335 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:16.679 the prosatory of all knowledge. That's one of that I 336 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:18.519 said to Nicola the other day. I'm like, YouTube's just 337 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:20.120 TV now. I asked the many people do you have 338 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:23.879 Netflix on artists and to have YouTube? Yeah, it's all YouTube, absolutely. Yeah, 339 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:26.080 It's one of the best investments I've made is getting 340 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.679 YouTube Premium. No tell me about it. Yeah, that shit's dope, 341 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:32.399 brought to you by YouTube. Rand of the part the 342 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:35.559 hids because it cuts out the ads, it's important, Yeah, absolutely. 343 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:37.600 But yeah, the curiosity show that this is something you 344 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:41.240 would have on after school. I'm not it was like 345 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.039 one of the an institution kind of. But it was 346 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:46.200 like when you'd go to like like the Melbourne Show 347 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.639 or something you always wanted to get, like the Violet 348 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:51.440 Crumble show bag or something ese. But this was like 349 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:55.279 a showback from the hospital. Yeah, you know, it'd be 350 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:57.279 like it was full of healthy stuff. 351 00:15:57.399 --> 00:15:59.200 It's like you know when your mum buys your your 352 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.159 auntie buys you things that you need for Christmas as 353 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:05.000 post things that you want correct like I want candy? 354 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:08.399 Why have I got socks as opposed to an hour like 355 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:10.399 you got miss Dope socks? Fantastic? 356 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.399 What Past came out the other day and I was like, 357 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.279 I'm officially I was excited by seeing South Pike hondies. 358 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:22.240 I was like South Pike Undies. But but to rewind 359 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.120 a little bit, Yeah, science needs better spokespeople. Would you 360 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:26.840 like to hear the theme song We'll Take You Back? 361 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.360 It might makes I'm not saying this was my Is 362 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:47.759 this it curiosity? The thing is you actually like intelligence? 363 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:51.039 For watching this, you're gonna learn ship And the curiosity 364 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:53.679 was I like the next level up from play school. 365 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:57.720 I think so. Yeah. I think I was miss sort 366 00:16:57.759 --> 00:16:59.799 of representing itself. I don't think it's all science. It's 367 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:01.679 kind of like like, these are things that happened in 368 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:05.000 the world. You may not know. It's internet pre Internet essentially, 369 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.160 it's like, have you seen this to be good about this? Yeah? 370 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.720 That's cool? Yeah, man, curiosity share and if there was 371 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:14.640 I don't know you had the cool science dude. It was like, 372 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.680 this is how your lungs work. You know, these are 373 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:20.279 things you breathe, and this is what keeps you this 374 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.480 is what keeps your vehicle moving. Like, wow, that's cool, 375 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.559 that's nice, And then you might be less susceptible to 376 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:28.039 conspiracy theories. 377 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:32.200 I don't know, it's just because you hear conspiracy theories right, 378 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:35.160 and you think, well, I'm instantly going to be a 379 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:37.799 whack job if I believe any of these conspiracy theories. Sure, 380 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.200 but some conspiracy theories have been proven true over time, 381 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.119 and you're like, fuck. 382 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:44.799 The one. 383 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.079 I chose not to believe it because some people just 384 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:49.279 you know, they believe the conspiracy theories. Not I just 385 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.640 I think I just by default just don't believe them. 386 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.640 Sometimes I hear things and I go, I see what 387 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:58.279 you're saying. I still don't believe it because I guess 388 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:00.480 I just don't want to believe it. I'd rather believe 389 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:02.079 what's easier. 390 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.680 Yeah. I think the average sort of semi intelligent person 391 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:09.880 realizes there's some degree of there's stuff going on that 392 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.480 we don't know about. Yeah, but I don't think it 393 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.240 really ever extends to something as big as say something 394 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:19.200 like September eleventh. I think it's usually just like there's 395 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:20.920 a bit of corruption going on behind the scenes. 396 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.960 For me, the thing about big conspiracy there is like 397 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.160 the moon landing, for example, I was actually talking to 398 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.640 people about, I know, three weeks ago at a friend's place, 399 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:31.559 no friends of friends, and they were avid believers that 400 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:33.319 of conspiracy and that like to the point where like 401 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:35.599