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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomi podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if you want to put human beings on Mars,

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<v Speaker 2>your absolute biggest enemy isn't the radiation, right, and it

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<v Speaker 2>isn't the freezing temperatures either. It is weight. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>launching just the rocket fuel needed for a return trip

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<v Speaker 2>back to Earth. Well, that would require a launch vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>so impossibly massive that it basically bankruptcy entire mission before

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<v Speaker 2>it even leaves the launch pad.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, it's just a non start financially and physically exact.

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<v Speaker 2>So space agencies have had to come up with a

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<v Speaker 2>radically different plan, which is, do not bring the return

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<v Speaker 2>fuel at all, make it there. But to make fuel

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<v Speaker 2>on Mars, you need to find massive, accessible deposits of

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<v Speaker 2>subsurface water ice, and you need to find them.

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<v Speaker 3>Fast, very fast. The clock is ticking on those twenty

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<v Speaker 3>thirties deadlines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which brings us to this frankly staggering announcement from

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<v Speaker 2>the March twenty twenty six Ignition event, a mission called Skyfall.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just the name sounds like a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does. It as a very cinematic ring to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It does, and the plan is wild. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>launch a nuclear powered spacecraft, fly it to Mars, and

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<v Speaker 2>instead of you know, carefully lowering a rover to the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>this ship will plunge into the Martian atmosphere and violently

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<v Speaker 2>eject a squadron of six autonomous helicopters mid air.

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<v Speaker 3>Just drop them right out of the sky right.

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<v Speaker 2>They will free fall at supersonic speeds, deploy their rotors,

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<v Speaker 2>catch themselves before hitting the dirt, and scatter across the

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<v Speaker 2>planet to hunt for ice. I mean, it sounds totally

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<v Speaker 2>reckless when you describe it like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know, dropping a multi billion dollar fleet out

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<v Speaker 3>of the sky mid entry seems to violate well basically

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<v Speaker 3>every safety protocol we've spent the last sixty years developing

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<v Speaker 3>for planetary landings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you look at the brutal mathematics of the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thirties human landing deadlines. The conventional methods of exploration,

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<v Speaker 3>like slowly rolling a single car sized rover across the dunes,

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<v Speaker 3>are statistically guaranteed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Fail because they're just too slow.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, we do not have the time to survey an

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<v Speaker 3>entire planet on wheels. Skyfalls the forcing function here. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a necessary, albeit incredibly aggressive architectural shift from crawling

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<v Speaker 3>to swarming.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, I am still trying to wrap my head

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<v Speaker 2>around the visual of mid air deployment at mock speeds.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get into the aerodynamics of a falling swarm,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to trace how we got here.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, because this didn't happen in a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, NASA didn't just wake up in twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>and decide to build nuclear paratrooper drones. This entire mission

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<v Speaker 2>architecture rests on the shoulders of what I used to

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<v Speaker 2>think of as a neat little science project, the Ingenuity

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<v Speaker 2>Mars helicopter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. Calling Ingenuity a science project severely understates the aerodynamic

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<v Speaker 3>nightmare of its creation.

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<v Speaker 2>Really a nightmare?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. To understand why skyfall is possible, you really

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<v Speaker 3>have to understand why Ingenuity shouldn't have been I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>The atmosphere on Mars is mostly carbon dioxide, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is thin.

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<v Speaker 2>Now thin are we talking?

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<v Speaker 3>It's ad about one percent of the density of verse

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if I'm an engineer tasked with flying an

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<v Speaker 2>air that thin, my immediate instinct is to just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>scale up, like make the rotor blades vastly longer and

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<v Speaker 2>wider to catch more of whatever sparse air is actually there.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a simple geometry problem to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You think, so, right, that's the logical first step. But

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<v Speaker 3>increasing the blade length runs you face first into a

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<v Speaker 3>physical wall, which is the speed of sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, the speed of sound is different on Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Mars is incredibly cold, and sound travels through that

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<v Speaker 3>thin CO two atmosphere much slower than it does on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about two hundred and forty meters per second compared

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<v Speaker 3>our three forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So if you build massive rotor blades and spin

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<v Speaker 3>them fast enough to generate lyft, the tips of those

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<v Speaker 3>long blades will easily exceed the Martian speed of sound,

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<v Speaker 3>and the moment that happens, you generate destructive.

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<v Speaker 2>Shockwaves like a sonic boom hitting the blade itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, Yes, the air basically turns into a brick wall

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<v Speaker 3>of drag, the blade loses its lifting capability, and the

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<v Speaker 3>helicopter just tears itself apart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes. So you literally cannot just build huge blades exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead, the team at JPL had to keep the blades

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<v Speaker 3>relatively short, about one point two meters across, and spin

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<v Speaker 3>them at an agonizingly precise speed. We're talking around twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred to twenty five hundred revolutions per minute.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds incredibly fast.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. That is roughly five times faster than a

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<v Speaker 3>standard passenger helicopter on Earth. So they had to engineer

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<v Speaker 3>these blades out of carbon fiber foam cores just to

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<v Speaker 3>be stiff enough not to bend under those extreme rotational.

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<v Speaker 2>Forces while keeping the weight down.

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<v Speaker 3>I s right, giving the entire vehicle under two kilograms.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that makes the reality of what Ingenuity accomplished terrifying

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<v Speaker 2>in retrospect. I mean, it was designed to fly maybe

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<v Speaker 2>five times over thirty days. It was just a tech

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<v Speaker 2>demo to prove powered flight was even.

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<v Speaker 3>Possible, just a proof of concept.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Instead, it survived the freezing Martian winter, which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I completely lacked the heaters for and it

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<v Speaker 2>flew seventy two times over three years. It absolutely smashed

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<v Speaker 2>its targets, outperforming its flight target by more than fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>times and its longevity target by thirty two times.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an unprecedented engineering triumph.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, But I still see a massive leap in

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<v Speaker 2>logic here. I understand Ingenuity was a triumph. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>right flyer of Mars, but it was still a tiny

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<v Speaker 2>scout that relied entirely on the Perseverance rover acting as

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<v Speaker 2>its communication base station.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, it couldn't talk to Earth directly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So bounding from that localized success to betting the

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<v Speaker 2>entire site selection process for human habitation on an unproven

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<v Speaker 2>fleet of autonomous heavy helicopters, that seems incredibly precarious. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we know how to build rovers, we have decades of

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<v Speaker 2>experience with wheels. Why not just send six rovers?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because wheels are an illusion of safety. If you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the actual operational history of our Martian rovers,

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<v Speaker 3>they are agonizingly slow and they are highly vulnerable to

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they do look pretty slow in the videos.

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<v Speaker 3>It's worse than it looks. Because of the light time

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<v Speaker 3>delay in communicating with Earth, which ranges from four to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four minutes depending on orbital alignments, you cannot drive

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<v Speaker 3>a rover manually.

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<v Speaker 2>So no one is sitting there with a joystick.

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<v Speaker 3>No, definitely not. A human cannot use a joystick to

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<v Speaker 3>steer around a rock because by the time the video

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<v Speaker 3>feed of the rock reaches Earth, well, the rover has

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<v Speaker 3>already crashed into it twenty minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense, it's already in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So every single movement of a rover is plotted

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<v Speaker 3>in advance. The rover takes photos, beams them to Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Engineers spend hours building a three D terrain mesh simulating

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<v Speaker 3>a path, and then they beam up a command that

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<v Speaker 3>says drive forward three meters and.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop three meters. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>A fantastic day of driving for a rover is perhaps one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred meters, and the terrain isn't exactly a paved highway either.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the Spirit rover breaking through a crust of

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<v Speaker 2>soil in two thousand and nine. It just sank into

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<v Speaker 2>a hidden sand trap and became permanently bogged down.

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<v Speaker 3>We lost the whole vehicle right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and curiosities aluminum wheels look like they had been

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<v Speaker 2>chewed through by metal shears after just a few years

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<v Speaker 2>of driving over those sharp wind carved rocks.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is the core issue. Rovers are crawling blind

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<v Speaker 3>through a minefield of geological hazards. If your objective is

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<v Speaker 3>to map thousands of square kilometers of terrain to find

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<v Speaker 3>a massive, pure subsurface ice.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheet, right because we need the ice exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>An ice sheet that is also situated near flat ground

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<v Speaker 3>suitable for a human landing craft. A rover will take

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<v Speaker 3>half a century to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that half a century, and we want to land

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<v Speaker 2>humans in the twenty thirties. So the math just doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn'ttors completely bypass the terrain problem. They fly over

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<v Speaker 3>the sandtraps that killed Spirit, They soar over the jagged

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<v Speaker 3>rocks that shredded curiosities wheels. They could drop into a

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<v Speaker 3>massive crater, map the stratigraphy of the steep walls, and

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<v Speaker 3>fly back out in an afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're just on another level entirely in terms of speed.

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<v Speaker 3>What takes a rover six months to navigate an aerial

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<v Speaker 3>asset surveys in four hours. So NASA didn't abandon rovers

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<v Speaker 3>because they wanted a flashier technology. They abandoned them because

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<v Speaker 3>the mathematics of the twenty thirty's human arrival deadline dictate

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<v Speaker 3>that aerial swarms are the only physical way to survey

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<v Speaker 3>enough ground in time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that reframes the entire timeline for me. It is

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<v Speaker 2>an issue of scale and speed. But scaling up brings

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<v Speaker 2>us to a brutal logistical bottleneck. If we are moving

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<v Speaker 2>from a single two kilogram drone to a fleet of

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<v Speaker 2>six advanced heavy payload helicopters, the mass we need to

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<v Speaker 2>send to Mars increases exponentially drastically, and we need them

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<v Speaker 2>there incredibly fast to do the prospecting before astronauts start

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<v Speaker 2>prepping for launch. So traditional chemical rockets, you know, burning

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<v Speaker 2>liquid fuel and oxidizer, they have hard limits.

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<v Speaker 3>Very hard limits when it comes to mass. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the architecture for the Skyfall carrier spacecraft

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<v Speaker 2>and NASA isn't using chemical propulsion for the main transit.

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<v Speaker 2>They're using the sr IE Freedom, a spacecraft powered by

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty kilowatt nuclear electric propulsion system.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is where Skyfall graduates from a clever robotic

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<v Speaker 3>mission to a foundational shift in interplanetary infrastructure. The sr

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<v Speaker 3>IE freedom represents the death of the traditional rocket equation

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<v Speaker 3>for deep space transit.

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<v Speaker 2>The rocket equation break that down for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So for decades, every probe we are sent to Mars

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<v Speaker 3>has relied on the same fundamental mechanism. You burn a

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<v Speaker 3>massive amount of chemical propellant for a few minutes to

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<v Speaker 3>break Earth's orbit, and then you just coast through the

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<v Speaker 3>vacuum of space for seven to nine months until you

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<v Speaker 3>hit Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like pedaling a bicycle as hard as humanly possible

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<v Speaker 2>for the first ten seconds of a race, getting up

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<v Speaker 2>to your maximum speed, and then entirely taking your feet

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<v Speaker 2>off the pedals and just coasting for the next six months.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a perfect way to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hoping you calculated the trajectory perfectly to cross the finish line,

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<v Speaker 2>all the energy is basically dumped at the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a highly accurate way to visualize it. And

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<v Speaker 3>the problem with chemical propulsion is that fuel is incredibly heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>Right if you want to push a heavier payload like

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<v Speaker 3>six advanced helicopters, you need more fuel to push it,

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<v Speaker 3>But now your rocket is heavier because of that extra fuel,

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<v Speaker 3>the fuel you just added. It's a trap, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>This exponential punishment is known as the Sidulkovsky rocket equation.

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<v Speaker 2>So how does nuclear electric propulsion or any p bypass this?

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<v Speaker 3>It breaks that cycle entirely. The sr IE freedom uses

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's a flying power plant exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that electricity is fed into an ion thruster. The

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<v Speaker 3>create positively charged ions I say. Then using an intense

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<v Speaker 3>of the spacecraft at velocities approaching ninety thousand miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety thousand miles per oh wow, so instead of a

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<v Speaker 2>shooting an invisible beam of charged particles out the back.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what it's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know that the actual physical force of that

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<v Speaker 2>thrust is incredibly weak. I've read it compared to the

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<v Speaker 2>weight of a piece of paper resting on your hand.

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<v Speaker 2>How does a force that week move a massive spacecraft

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<v Speaker 2>carrying six heavy helicopters all the way to Mars?

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<v Speaker 3>The secret is time and efficiency. You are correct that

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<v Speaker 3>the instantaneous thrust is minuscule, But going back to your

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<v Speaker 3>electric motor that never ever stops pushing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's constant acceleration.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Because the xenon ions are expelled at such extreme velocities,

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<v Speaker 3>the engine is vastly more fuel efficient than a chemical rocket.

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<v Speaker 3>In aerospace terminology, it has an incredibly high specific impulse.

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<v Speaker 2>Specific impulse got it.

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<v Speaker 3>In the vacuum of space, there is no friction, so

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<v Speaker 3>that tiny continuous push from the ion engine accumulates day

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<v Speaker 3>after day, week after week. The spacecraft slowly but relentlessly accelerates,

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<v Speaker 3>eventually achieving transit speeds that completely dwarf what a coast

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if the physics of specific impulse make any P

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<v Speaker 2>vastly superior for heavy payloads, I have to ask the

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<v Speaker 2>obvious question. We have known about nuclear fission since the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirties. We have known about ion propulsion for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this just now flying on the sr IE Freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't we build this in the nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it comes down to the intersection of political risk

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<v Speaker 3>and technological necessity. Politics always decades. ANYP was relegated to

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<v Speaker 3>to send tiny, lightweight robotic probes to.

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<v Speaker 2>Mars, And no one wants to launch a reactor if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely when a chemical rocket is good enough, No space

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<v Speaker 3>live nuclear reactor into Earth orbit. The safety reviews are monumental.

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<v Speaker 2>But something changed.

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<v Speaker 3>The payload changed. As NASA administrator Jared Isaagman recently outlined,

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<v Speaker 3>we have hit the physical limits of good enough. You

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<v Speaker 3>simply cannot lay the infrastructure for a multiplanetary economy using

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<v Speaker 2>Because you can't lift the habitats and.

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<v Speaker 3>The fleets exactly. The mass penalties are simply too high

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<v Speaker 3>to move human rated landers, habitats, and heavy reconnaissance fleets

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<v Speaker 3>like Skyfall. Skyfall is the forcing function. The national space

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<v Speaker 3>policy objectives have finally demanded a payload mass that chemical

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<v Speaker 3>rockets cannot efficiently deliver. The need for the fleet necessitated

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<v Speaker 3>the reactor.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the zer one freedom solves the transit bottleneck.

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<v Speaker 2>We break the tyranny of the rocket equation using fission

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<v Speaker 2>and magnetic fields, and we arrive at Mars with our

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<v Speaker 2>heavy payload. But this is where my anxiety about this

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<v Speaker 2>mission architecture spikes.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I know where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>The transit is solved, sure, but the landing method, the

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<v Speaker 2>Skyfall maneuver, seems fundamentally unhinged. I mean, let's contrast this

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<v Speaker 2>with how we landed Perseverance, the skycrane right. The skycrane right.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a system where the spacecraft entered the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 2>a massive supersonic parachute deployed to slow it down, then

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<v Speaker 2>the heat shield dropped off. Then the rover essentially dropped

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<v Speaker 2>out of the backshell attached to.

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<v Speaker 3>A jetpack it is brilliant engineering.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. The jetpack fired its thrusters to halt their descent,

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<v Speaker 2>and while hovering in mid air, it gently lowered the

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<v Speaker 2>rover down to the dirt on nylon cords. Yes, once

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<v Speaker 2>the wheels touched down, the cords were severed and the

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<v Speaker 2>jetpack flew away to crash at a safe distance. It

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<v Speaker 2>was an incredibly complex, delicate ballet on a tightrope, like

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<v Speaker 2>lowering a car on a It really was a marvel

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<v Speaker 2>but skyfall abandons all of that. You have the aeroshell

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<v Speaker 2>hitting the atmosphere, taking the thermal load of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>degrees of plasma, and then miles above the surface, traveling

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<v Speaker 2>at mock speeds, the shell just pops open and ejects

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<v Speaker 2>six helicopters into free fall, like paratroopers jumping out of

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<v Speaker 2>a C one thirty. It is a very dramatic shift

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<v Speaker 2>if you are dropping these things from a skyscraper equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>altitude at supersonic speeds into unpredictable Martian winds without a

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<v Speaker 2>parachute stabilizing them all the way to the ground. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how is that not a recipe for total catastrophic failure.

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<v Speaker 2>If the atmosphere is so thin. How do they even

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<v Speaker 2>catch themselves before hitting the ground? What if half of

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<v Speaker 2>them crash on day one?

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<v Speaker 3>You are looking at the Skyfall maneuver through the lens

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<v Speaker 3>of traditional risk management, which prioritizes the preservation of a single,

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<v Speaker 3>highly controlled asset.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I am. I don't want the billion dollar

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<v Speaker 2>drone to crash.

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<v Speaker 3>Understandable, But let's analyze the skycrane you just described. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a brilliant piece of veneering, but it is the

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<v Speaker 3>ultimate single point of failure architecture.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning if one thing breaks, it's over.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. If the supersonic parachute tears upon deployment, the mission

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<v Speaker 3>is over. If the radar altimeter on the jet pack

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<v Speaker 3>glitches and miscalculates the distance to the ground, the mission

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<v Speaker 3>is over. If one explosive bolt fails to sever the

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Yeah, that's a lot of things that have

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<v Speaker 2>to go perfectly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single step must execute flawlessly or you are left

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<v Speaker 3>with a multi billion dollar crater. The midair deployment of

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<v Speaker 3>Skyfall introduces a fundamentally different risk model, statistical survivability through

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<v Speaker 3>distributed architecture.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying they expect some of them to crash.

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<v Speaker 3>They are mathematically prepared for it. Let's walk through the

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<v Speaker 3>physics of the drop. The SR one carrier vehicle hits

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<v Speaker 3>the atmosphere, the heat shield absorbs the kinetic energy, turning

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<v Speaker 3>it into plasma and slows the vehicle down significantly, though

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<v Speaker 3>it is still traveling very fast at a calculated altitude.

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<v Speaker 3>The aeroshell opens. The six helicopters are deployed. Now they

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<v Speaker 3>are not entirely at the mercy of the wind immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Their chassis are aerodynamically designed to passively orient themselves as

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<v Speaker 3>they fall, ensuring their center of mass points downward.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a shuttlecock.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly like a shuttlecock. As they enter free fall, the

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<v Speaker 3>onboard flight computers boot up in milliseconds, and they do

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<v Speaker 3>not just blindly turn on their engines. They initiate a

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<v Speaker 3>state of auto rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>Auto rotation is that.

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<v Speaker 3>The upward rush of air through the unpowered blades causes

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<v Speaker 3>them to spin, which stabilizes the craft aerodynamically. Once stable

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<v Speaker 3>and oriented, the motors engage, applying massive torque to the

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<v Speaker 3>blaze to violently arrest their vertical velocity.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like dropping a drone from a skyscraper, expecting

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<v Speaker 2>it to power on, orient its cameras and hit the

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<v Speaker 2>brakes ten feet before the pavement, but doing it in

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<v Speaker 2>a near vacuum.

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<v Speaker 3>It is intensely violent. There will be massive aerodynamic loads

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<v Speaker 3>on the rotors. But consider the math of the distributed swarm.

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<v Speaker 3>If you send one rover on a sky crane and

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<v Speaker 3>a sensor veils, your mission is a one hundred percent failure.

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<v Speaker 3>You have zero assets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've lost everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you eject six helicopters mid air and the

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<v Speaker 3>crosswinds are worse than modeled, or a deployment mechanism jams

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<v Speaker 3>and two of those helicopters crash into the Martian.

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<v Speaker 2>Surface, you still have four left.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, you still have a sixty six percent mission survival rate.

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<v Speaker 3>You have four fully operational advanced aerial assets spreading out

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<v Speaker 3>across parallel geographic zones.

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<v Speaker 2>So the goal isn't necessarily landing safely in one spot.

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<v Speaker 2>The goal is landing widely, because if you safely lowered

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<v Speaker 2>a platform with six helicopters on it, they would all

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<v Speaker 2>have to launch on the exact same starting point, basically

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<v Speaker 2>wasting fuel just to get away from each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, the midair deployment acts as a multiplier for their

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<v Speaker 3>operational range. You scatter them across a five hundred kilometer zone,

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<v Speaker 3>instantly mitigating the single point of failure risk and simultaneously

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<v Speaker 3>initiating reconnaissance in six distinct geological regions.

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild, but it makes so much sense. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's follow the timeline forward. The drop occurs. Let's assume

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<v Speaker 2>the statistics hold up and at least four or five

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<v Speaker 2>of these mechanical paratroopers successfully auto rootate, fire their motors

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<v Speaker 2>and touched down safely in the dust.

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<v Speaker 3>Fingers crossed right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're sitting on the Martian's surface, their hybrid solar power systems.

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<v Speaker 2>Booed up, What exactly is the hardware capable of? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I know JPL and IR environment didn't just build six

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<v Speaker 2>clones of Ingenuity, definitely not. Ingenuity had a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>commercial cameras and a smartphone processor. These Skyfall units have

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<v Speaker 2>a very specific job find the ice so we can

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<v Speaker 2>make the fuel. They are basically autonomous flying geologists with

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<v Speaker 2>X ray vision.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great way to put it. The hardware evolution

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<v Speaker 3>is staggering. You have to remember the Martian environment is

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<v Speaker 3>actively hostile to moving parts. The dust is not like

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<v Speaker 3>beach sand. It is incredibly fine, highly abrasive, and statically charged.

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<v Speaker 2>It just sticks to everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It glings to everything, works his way into bearings and

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<v Speaker 3>severely degrade solar panel efficiency. So the skyfall units are

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<v Speaker 3>heavily ruggedized, completely sealing their articulation joints. But their true

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<v Speaker 3>power lies in their scientific payloads.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about the payloads.

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<v Speaker 3>They carry high resolution optical and thermal imaging to map

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<v Speaker 3>surface hazards like jagged rocks or treacherous slopes that could

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<v Speaker 3>tip over a future human habitat module. But the absolute

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<v Speaker 3>crown jewel of the fleet is the ground penetrating radar.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's dig into that radar, because looking at surface pictures

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<v Speaker 2>where the resources are exactly. Mars looks bone dry on

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<v Speaker 2>the surface because the atmospheric pressure is so low that

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<v Speaker 2>liquid water would boil away instantly, and exposed ice supplimates

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<v Speaker 2>directly into gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it gives the liquid phase entirely right.

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<v Speaker 2>We know the ice is trapped underground, but how does

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<v Speaker 2>a flying drone actually see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ground penetrating radar or GPR exploits the way different materials

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<v Speaker 3>interact with electromagnetic waves. As the helicopter flies low over

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<v Speaker 3>the surface, the GPR payload pulses radio waves down in

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<v Speaker 3>to the dirt. Okay, when those radio waves travel through

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<v Speaker 3>homogeneous Martian regolith, which is just dry dirt and rock,

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<v Speaker 3>they move at a relatively constant speed.

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<v Speaker 3>But when those waves hit a boundary between different materials,

428
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<v Speaker 3>like a layer of rock sitting on top of a

429
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<v Speaker 3>massive sheet of water.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Ice, something changes.

431
00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the change in the materials dielectric primitivity causes a

432
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<v Speaker 3>portion of that radio energy to bounce back up to

433
00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:27.160
<v Speaker 3>the helicopter's receiver like an echo. Precisely, by measuring the

434
00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:29.599
<v Speaker 3>exact time it takes for the echo to return and

435
00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.279
<v Speaker 3>the strength of that echo, the flight computer can build

436
00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:35.960
<v Speaker 3>a highly precise three dimensional topological map of what exists

437
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<v Speaker 3>beneath the surface.

438
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

439
00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:39.599
<v Speaker 3>It can determine exactly how deep the ice is buried,

440
00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.359
<v Speaker 3>how thick the vein is, and even infer its purity.

441
00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:46.640
<v Speaker 2>And this data is the literal foundation of insitue resource

442
00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:50.640
<v Speaker 2>utilization or ISRU. We throw that acronym around a lot,

443
00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.839
<v Speaker 2>but the chemistry of it is fascinating.

444
00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:53.519
<v Speaker 3>It really is.

445
00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.960
<v Speaker 2>If these helicopters find a massive sheet of subsurface ice.

446
00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:01.240
<v Speaker 2>The twenty thirties human mission will land a robotic chemical

447
00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.920
<v Speaker 2>plant on top of it. That plant will drill down,

448
00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:06.000
<v Speaker 2>melt the ice, and pump up liquid water.

449
00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:07.599
<v Speaker 3>That's step one from there.

450
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<v Speaker 2>It is basic chemistry. You run an electrical current through

451
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<v Speaker 2>the H two a process called electrolysis, which splits the

452
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<v Speaker 2>water into hydrogen gas and oxygen gas. The oxygen is

453
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<v Speaker 2>compressed and stored both for astronauts to breathe and to

454
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<v Speaker 2>act as the oxidizer for the rocket engine.

455
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<v Speaker 3>Perfect, but we're still missing half of the rocket propellant, right.

456
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<v Speaker 2>You still need fuel, and this is where the Martian

457
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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere actually hips us. It is ninety five percent carbon dioxide.

458
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<v Speaker 2>If you take that CO two from the air and

459
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<v Speaker 2>combine it with the hydrogen you just split from the water,

460
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<v Speaker 2>you can run them through a sabateer reactor at high temperatures.

461
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<v Speaker 3>The sabateer react yes.

462
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<v Speaker 2>And that reaction produces water, which you cycle back into

463
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<v Speaker 2>the system and methane. Liquid. Methane is the exact rocket

464
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<v Speaker 2>fuel that many next generation engines use.

465
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<v Speaker 3>The chemistry is well understood and highly reliable. The entire isru.

466
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<v Speaker 3>Concept is sound, but it all hinges on one one

467
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<v Speaker 3>absolute prerequisite, which is that you must build the chemical

468
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<v Speaker 3>plant directly on top of the ice.

469
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<v Speaker 2>You can't just drive over to it later.

470
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<v Speaker 3>No, you cannot land a heavy drilling rig, realize the

471
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:13.519
<v Speaker 3>ice is actually five kilometers away and just drive the

472
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<v Speaker 3>rig over. The mass is too great. Skyfall's radar grid

473
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<v Speaker 3>searches are the only way to gain the absolute certainty

474
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<v Speaker 3>required to lock in those coordinates before we send the plant.

475
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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us back to the most mind bending logistical

476
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<v Speaker 2>aspect of this entire operation. With the communication delay between

477
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<v Speaker 2>Earth and Mars, there is no one flying these things

478
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<v Speaker 2>with a joystick.

479
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Don't want at all.

480
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<v Speaker 2>We established earlier that rovers are paralyzed by the light

481
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<v Speaker 2>time delay. If a Skyfall helicopter is blasting over a

482
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<v Speaker 2>canyon at fifty miles an hour, scanning for ice, and

483
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<v Speaker 2>a massive rock wall suddenly looms in its path, it

484
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<v Speaker 2>cannot radio Earth for instructions.

485
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<v Speaker 3>It would be a bug on a windshield before the

486
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<v Speaker 3>signal even left Mars.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Exactly by the time the video feed reaches Earth, twenty

488
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<v Speaker 2>minutes have passed and the drone is already shattered against

489
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<v Speaker 2>the cliff. Furthermore, we do not have a con installation

490
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<v Speaker 2>of GPS satellites orbiting Mars.

491
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:04.759
<v Speaker 3>That's a huge factor people forget.

492
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<v Speaker 2>Right on Earth, drones know their precise altitude, velocity, and

493
00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:13.880
<v Speaker 2>location because they are constantly pinging atomic clocks on satellites.

494
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<v Speaker 2>On Mars, they are flying totally blind regarding external positioning.

495
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<v Speaker 2>How do six independent helicopters coordinate, avoid hazards, and relay

496
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<v Speaker 2>data without constant babysitting from mission control.

497
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<v Speaker 3>The solution is the deployment of advanced swarm, artificial intelligence

498
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<v Speaker 3>and a technology called terrain relative navigation. It heavily utilizes

499
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<v Speaker 3>SLAM algorithms simultaneous localization and mapping SLAM.

500
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how does that work?

501
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<v Speaker 3>Because they have no GPS, the helicopters must rely entirely

502
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<v Speaker 3>on their own internal sensors and cameras to understand their

503
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<v Speaker 3>position in space. As the helicopter flies, a downward facing

504
00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:53.000
<v Speaker 3>navigation camera takes dozens of high resolution photos per.

505
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<v Speaker 2>Second, just constantly snapping pictures of the ground right, and.

506
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<v Speaker 3>The onboard AI instantly analyzes these photos identifying specific visual

507
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<v Speaker 3>features like the edge of a crater, a uniquely shaped boulder,

508
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<v Speaker 3>or a ripple in a sand dune. By comparing how

509
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<v Speaker 3>far and in what direction those specific features move from

510
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<v Speaker 3>one frame to the next, the AI calculates its own

511
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<v Speaker 3>exact velocity and direction of travel. This is optical navigation.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's brilliant. It's using the ground as its own tracking.

513
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Pad exactly, and at the same time, forward facing lightar

514
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 3>and stereoscopic cameras are building a real time three D

515
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<v Speaker 3>metch of the environment ahead. If the AI detects that

516
00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:32.039
<v Speaker 3>a cliff wall intersects its projected flight path, it doesn't

517
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<v Speaker 3>need to ask Earth for permission to turn.

518
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<v Speaker 2>It just does it.

519
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the hazard avoidance algorithms autonomously calculate a nutrajectory, bank

520
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the rotors, and steer the craft around the obstacle, all

521
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<v Speaker 3>in fractions of a second.

522
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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. They are essentially building the map of

523
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<v Speaker 2>the world, and they're placed within it frame by frame

524
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>as they fly. But they aren't just flying around randomly

525
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>right to cover maximum ground. They have to coordinate precisely.

526
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.359
<v Speaker 3>They do not operate in a vacuum. They communicate via

527
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<v Speaker 3>high freequency radio links to the various Mars orbiters passing overhead.

528
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<v Speaker 3>When an orbiter is in line of sight. A helicopter

529
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 3>blasts its accumulated radar data, visual maps, and positional coordinates

530
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.319
<v Speaker 3>up to the satellite, which relates it to Earth.

531
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<v Speaker 2>Near real time data relay.

532
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but they also share broad positional data with each other.

533
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:23.480
<v Speaker 3>This creates a parallel exploration model. Let's say Helicopter one

534
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.079
<v Speaker 3>might be mapping the northern edge of a promising basin

535
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 3>and it registers a high density ice deposit. Okay, Helicopter two,

536
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.480
<v Speaker 3>operating ten kilometers away, receives an update priority directive based

537
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.559
<v Speaker 3>on that find and autonomously adjusts its flight path to

538
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 3>map the southern boundary of that same basin. This way,

539
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.839
<v Speaker 3>they work together to determine the total volume of the ice.

540
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Sheet without humans telling them to do that exactly.

541
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Mission control on Earth is not flying these vehicles.

542
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 3>They are simply uploading high levels strategic objectives. They beam

543
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.759
<v Speaker 3>a command saying grid search sector four for high primitivity

544
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:58.559
<v Speaker 3>radar returns, and the swarm AI breaks that command down

545
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:02.519
<v Speaker 3>into tactical flight paths, delegates the terrain among the surviving units,

546
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 3>and executes the search autonomously.

547
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Wow, So we have a mission architecture that breaks the

548
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>rocket equation with a nuclear ion drive fundamentally changes landing

549
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.519
<v Speaker 2>risk modeling with supersonic mid air deployment and solves the

550
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 2>communication delay with autonomous optical navigating AI swarms. On a

551
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.400
<v Speaker 2>technical level, it is a masterpiece of logic.

552
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 3>He truly is.

553
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 2>But and I hate to do this. Let's initiate a

554
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>reality check.

555
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, lay it on me.

556
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>We have to look at the timeline NASA is proposing

557
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 2>for this, and the massive risks involved and actually getting

558
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>it off the launch pad. AeroVironment publicly unveiled the mature

559
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 2>Skyfall concept in July twenty twenty five. NASA formally announced

560
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.559
<v Speaker 2>adoption in March twenty twenty six. The target launch window

561
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<v Speaker 2>is December twenty twenty eight.

562
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<v Speaker 3>That is a very tight turnaround, very tight, And.

563
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>For context, launching to Mars is not like launching to

564
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the Moon. You cannot go whenever you want. Earth and

565
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Mars orbit the Sun at different speeds. To send us

566
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>spacecraft efficiently, you have to use a home and transfer orbit,

567
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 2>which requires Earth and Mars to align perfectly.

568
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, and that alignment only happens roughly every twenty six

569
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 3>months exactly.

570
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>If Skyfall misses that December twenty twenty eight launch window,

571
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.839
<v Speaker 2>the spacecraft is grounded until early twenty thirty one. If

572
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.359
<v Speaker 2>it launches in twenty thirty one, it doesn't arrive until

573
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>late twenty thirty one or twenty thirty two. That completely

574
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:20.559
<v Speaker 2>destroys the timeline for analyzing the radar data, selecting the site,

575
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 2>and building the ISRU plant before the first human cruis

576
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>are scheduled to depart in the late twenty thirties.

577
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 3>It creates a domino effective delays.

578
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>So going from mission adoption in twenty twenty six to

579
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>launching a nuclear reactor and six autonomous helicopters in twenty

580
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight is practically light speed in aerospace terms. Historically,

581
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>flagship missions like the Perseverance Rover took nearly a decade

582
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<v Speaker 2>to develop a twenty twenty six announcement for a twenty

583
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight launch utilizing space reactors and midair drops. That

584
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.440
<v Speaker 2>timeline is aggressively fast. Is this growing model of public

585
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 2>private partnerships like the one with aero environment the Secret Sauce,

586
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 2>making this even theoretically possible.

587
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the acceleration is entirely dependent on a paradigm shift

588
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 3>and how NASA procures and integrates technology for the past

589
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 3>fifty years, the agency relied almost exclusively on bespoke.

590
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Engineering, building everything from scratch.

591
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:13.119
<v Speaker 3>Right if they needed a flight computer, they designed a

592
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 3>custom radiation hardened microchip from scratch, built in a clean room,

593
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 3>and tested it for five years. That process ensures reliability,

594
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 3>but it guarantees slow development and astronomical costs.

595
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Which they just don't have time for now.

596
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Exactly what the public private partnership with companies like AeroVironment

597
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 3>proofs is the viability of commercial off the shelf or

598
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:36.279
<v Speaker 3>cotess components. Ingenuity was the ultimate proof of concept for this.

599
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 3>How So, its primary processor was not a billion dollar

600
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>bespoke JPL chip. It was a Qualcom Snapdragon processor, fundamentally

601
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 3>similar to the brain of a high end consumer smartphone.

602
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Wait, really a smartphone ship flew on ours?

603
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes. Because AeroVironment had already spent years maturing the swarm

604
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 3>logic and rotor mechanics using commercially adapted technologies by twenty

605
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.519
<v Speaker 3>twenty five, NASA did not have to start from zero.

606
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 2>It makes a huge difference.

607
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 3>It does. NASA's role shifted from inventing everything to integrating

608
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<v Speaker 3>and funding. NASA provides the sr I freedom carrier vehicle

609
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:14.200
<v Speaker 3>handles the interplanetary trajectory and manages the deep space communication network.

610
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Air of Varment delivers the finished helicopter fleet. This division

611
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 3>of labor is the only mathematical way they hit the

612
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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty eight window.

613
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see how that speeds things up, But relying

614
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<v Speaker 2>on commercial tech and rushing a timeline introduces terrifying risks.

615
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Let's look critically at the failure points of this mission,

616
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 2>because any one of them could derail the twenty thirties

617
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>human exploration mandate entirely.

618
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<v Speaker 3>The hurdles are indeed severe, and I'd say the absolute

619
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<v Speaker 3>highest hurdle is nuclear launch certification.

620
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, putting a reactor on a rocket over Florida exactly.

621
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 3>We have launch nuclear material into space before. The Perseverance

622
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 3>and Curiosity rovers both utilize multimission radio isotope thermoelectric generators

623
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 3>or MMRTGs.

624
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, But those aren't full reactors.

625
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.039
<v Speaker 3>No, and RTG is entirely passive. It is simply a

626
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 3>chunk of decaying plutonium two thirty eight that gets naturally hot,

627
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and thermo couples turn that heat into a tiny trickle

628
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:07.720
<v Speaker 3>of electricity. About one hundred and ten.

629
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Watts, barely enough to power a light bult exactly.

630
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.240
<v Speaker 3>The SR I freedom is completely different. It is an

631
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<v Speaker 3>active nuclear fission reactor generating twenty thousand watts.

632
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole different ballgame.

633
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Placing an active reactor on top of a chemical rocket

634
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 3>and launching it from the Florida coast requires navigating the

635
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 3>most stringent, unforgiving safety reviews in the history of the

636
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<v Speaker 3>federal government.

637
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't even imagine the paperwork.

638
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.000
<v Speaker 3>It's staggering. The engineering required to guarantee that the reactor

639
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 3>core cannot shatter and scatter radioactive material over the ocean

640
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:42.400
<v Speaker 3>in the event of a launch pad explosion is immensely difficult.

641
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<v Speaker 3>Proving that to the regulatory agencies by twenty twenty eight

642
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<v Speaker 3>is a monumental bureaucratic and engineering challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if they get the launch certification and the

644
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<v Speaker 2>SR one successfully uses its ion drive to reach Mars, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we are back to the midair dropt ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the draw.

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<v Speaker 2>You explain the logic of distributed risk earlier, and it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense statistically, But aerodynamic theory in a computer simulation

649
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<v Speaker 2>is very different from actually plunging through the Martian atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>Very true, the atmospheric density on Mars fluctuates wildly based

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<v Speaker 2>on the season and the amount of dust in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>If the carrier vehicle hits an unexpected low density pocket

653
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<v Speaker 2>of air during entry, the aeroshell might open at the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong altitude.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very real concern.

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<v Speaker 2>If they are dropped too high, they run out of

657
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<v Speaker 2>battery before reaching the ground. If they are dropped too low,

658
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 2>the auto rotation fails to arrest their momentum in time

659
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<v Speaker 2>and all six hit the ground at terminal velocity.

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<v Speaker 3>The aero dynamic uncertainty during the dissent vector is absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>the highest probability failure point for the physical hardware. There's

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<v Speaker 3>just no way around that risk.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they survive the landing, we face the third

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<v Speaker 2>major risk, which is environmental degradation. Mars is a brutally

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<v Speaker 2>hostile environment. The dust storms are not just localized events.

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<v Speaker 2>Mars frequently experiences global dust storms that can obscure the

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<v Speaker 2>sun for months.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw what that did to the Opportunity rover.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. This abrasive dust coat solar panels, choking off their

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<v Speaker 2>power supply. It works its way into the carbon fiber

671
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 2>rotor bearings. Even with ruggedized joints and hybrid power management.

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<v Speaker 2>The environment is actively degrading the hardware every single second.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a race against the elements from the moment they

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<v Speaker 3>touch down.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet, despite the regulatory nightmare of the nuclear launch,

676
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<v Speaker 2>the terrifying ballistics of a midair mock speed deployment, and

677
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<v Speaker 2>the relentless assault of Martian dust, space agencies are pushing

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<v Speaker 2>all their chips to the center of the table on

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<v Speaker 2>this specific architecture.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to.

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<v Speaker 2>It tells you everything you need to know about how

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<v Speaker 2>desperate the need for subsurface ice is. The risk of

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<v Speaker 2>the mission failing is massively outweighed by the absolute necessity

684
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<v Speaker 2>of the data it provides. We cannot guess where to

685
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<v Speaker 2>land humans. We cannot send an expeditionary crew millions of miles,

686
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<v Speaker 2>land them in a dusty basin and just hope their drills.

687
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<v Speaker 3>Hit water exactly. The margin for error on a human

688
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<v Speaker 3>mission is zero. Skyfall is the mechanism that removes the

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<v Speaker 3>multi billion dollar guesswork from planetary colonization. The commercialization of

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<v Speaker 3>ingenuities avionics makes it affordable, while the mission as a

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<v Speaker 3>whole answers the most critical question in space exploration right now,

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<v Speaker 3>where exactly is the safest, most resource rich place for

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<v Speaker 3>humanity's first Martian outpost. But beyond the immediate utility of

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<v Speaker 3>finding ice, we must recognize what Skyfall represents on a

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<v Speaker 3>macro level. If this mission succeeds, it validates the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 3>required for a permanent spacefaring civilization.

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<v Speaker 2>It proves the whole system works.

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<v Speaker 3>It proves that we can safely launch and utilize high

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<v Speaker 3>power fission reactors for deep space transit, drastically cutting travel times.

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<v Speaker 3>It proves we can utilize autonomous AI swarms to rapidly

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<v Speaker 3>prospect alien environments without micromanagement from Earth. It graduates humanity

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<v Speaker 3>from sending delicate, isolated science experiments to deploying robust, industrial

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<v Speaker 3>scale exploration fleets.

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<v Speaker 2>We are quite literally watching the foundational infrastructure of a

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<v Speaker 2>multiplanetary economy being engineered and tested in real time. To

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<v Speaker 2>bring the scope of this altogether. It is incredible to

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<v Speaker 2>trace the lineage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's breathtaking.

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<v Speaker 2>We went from ingenuity, a tiny two kilogram drone built

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<v Speaker 2>to answer the simple question of whether air could support

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<v Speaker 2>flight on another world, to the sr I freedom, a

712
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<v Speaker 2>nuclear powered ion ship crossing the void poised to violently

713
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<v Speaker 2>tear away the safety nets of parachutes and skycranes.

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<v Speaker 3>A huge leap.

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<v Speaker 2>It will scatter a swarm of heavily armoured, autonomous radar

716
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<v Speaker 2>equipped AI scouts into the freezing winds of the red

717
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<v Speaker 2>planet to hunt for the chemical components of rocket fuel.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a paradigm shift of the highest order.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the definitive bridge the transition from the era

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<v Speaker 3>of robotic curiosity to the era of human habitation.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to leave you with a visual to hold

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<v Speaker 2>on to as we track the progress of this massive

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<v Speaker 2>engineering endeavor over the next few years. Fast forward a decade,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine twenty thirties. The first human astronauts have made.

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<v Speaker 3>The transit, the culmination of all this work right.

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<v Speaker 2>Their landing craft descends flawlessly, touching down on a flat,

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00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>geologically stable plane that was scouted and verified years prior.

728
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<v Speaker 2>They step out of the airlock, their boots crunching into

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<v Speaker 2>the red, iron rich dirt, baking stry, the water they

730
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<v Speaker 2>drink inside their habitat, the oxygen they breathe, and the

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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands of pounds of liquid methane fuel sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in their ascent vehicle waiting to take them home. All

733
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<v Speaker 2>of it was manufactured by a robotic chemical plant built

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<v Speaker 2>exactly on the coordinates mapped by the ground penetrating radar

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<v Speaker 2>of a machine that fell from the sky.

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<v Speaker 3>It gives you chills.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine those future explorers perhaps taking a rover out for

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<v Speaker 2>a surface survey, cresting a massive red doom, and there,

739
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<v Speaker 2>sitting silently in the sand, its carbon fiber blades coated

740
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<v Speaker 2>in a thin layer of dust. Is one of the

741
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<v Speaker 2>skyfall helicopters, Its battery long dead, its mission perfectly executed

742
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<v Speaker 2>a small historic monument to the mechanical swarm that survived

743
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<v Speaker 2>the supersonic drop map the underworld and pave the precise

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<v Speaker 2>way for humanity to finally arrive.

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<v Speaker 3>What a site that would be.

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<v Speaker 2>It really makes you wonder centuries from now, when we

747
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<v Speaker 2>finally build the first great museum on Mars, which of

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<v Speaker 2>those six machines while they put in the center hall,
