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Speaker 1: the Policy and Rights here in Depictions Media Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Michael Kloggs. We have all heard and seen
Speaker 1: the live broadcast of President Trump and President Zelensky UH,
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian leader. Mister Trump brought mister Zelensky into the
Speaker 1: United States, into the White House to broker a peace deal,
Speaker 1: to offer mister mister Zelensky a way of negotiating with
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin so that so that the bullets can stop
Speaker 1: flying across his country, and some pretty graphic things that
Speaker 1: are said about how the the because it's good farmland
Speaker 1: and because there's a lot of good rare earth and
Speaker 1: minerals in uh the Ukrainian soil to help industry that
Speaker 1: mister Trump wants wants to help him UH find a
Speaker 1: way towards peace, towards and protecting the Ukrainian future. So
Speaker 1: the conversation, it's it starts off very nice and and
Speaker 1: mister Zelensky is passes around photographs of the atrocities that
Speaker 1: the Russian soldiers have committed or at least or accused
Speaker 1: of committed committing and we're talking about and Trump is
Speaker 1: talking about making a deal so that so that those
Speaker 1: rare earth minerals and resources can be mined and distributed
Speaker 1: with making of course the Ukrainian the country of Ukraine
Speaker 1: very wealthy and offering the people themselves lots of wonderful things.
Speaker 1: It all becomes really it all sounds really good until
Speaker 1: the question of what type of security is going to
Speaker 1: be put in place. Mister Trump actually refuses to talk
Speaker 1: about security. He doesn't want to talk about how things
Speaker 1: are going to be protected, what is going to protect it,
Speaker 1: because he says, I have to make the deal first,
Speaker 1: is what he says he wants to And it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily a bad thing to make sure that things are
Speaker 1: down on paper before you start to discuss what securities
Speaker 1: are going to be in place, who's going to give
Speaker 1: up what, who's going to pay for what?
Speaker 2: And it in.
Speaker 1: Mister Zelenski brings up a point that when when you
Speaker 1: listen to the to the long form of it, you
Speaker 1: Mister Zelensky brings up a point did that the Russian Federation,
Speaker 1: because of the actions of Vladimir Putin, should be paying
Speaker 1: to restore and rebuild Ukraine. It was his idea to attack.
Speaker 1: It was completely unprovoked and it was on its rest
Speaker 1: on his shoulders to make things right with the Ukrainian people.
Speaker 1: But that that allies the point that mister Putin thinks
Speaker 1: that the Ukraine people are actually are not Ukrainian people,
Speaker 1: that Ukraine is not a sovereign country. He thinks that
Speaker 1: it is a part of Russia and should be returned
Speaker 1: back to being part of the Russian Federation, the same
Speaker 1: as it was with the with the Soviet Union, and
Speaker 1: three years ago mister Putin said the said that mister
Speaker 1: Putin did not want to respect the Minsk agreement that collapsed.
Speaker 1: It collapsed because only only one side of the agreement
Speaker 1: was being upheld, and it wasn't mister Putin's side. Mister
Speaker 1: Trump sits in and refuses to hear any criticisms about it.
Speaker 1: He says that that that he holds the key to
Speaker 1: ensuring that mister Putin will never renegal the deal again.
Speaker 1: Right after mister Selenski tells him that he feigns his
Speaker 1: signature twenty five times, that he backed out of the
Speaker 1: deal deals twenty five times after he signed the deal
Speaker 1: because he didn't like what was going on. Why sign
Speaker 1: the deal if you're not going to uphold the treaty?
Speaker 1: Why sign the treaty if you're not going to uphold it.
Speaker 1: We need to stop calling it a deal. It's a treaty.
Speaker 1: When things happen between two countries, it's a treaty. Is
Speaker 1: not a deal. Mister Trump wants us to think that, oh,
Speaker 1: this is just a simple business transaction between corporations. It isn't.
Speaker 1: This involves real lives. War is real bullets shot at
Speaker 1: real people, taking away real lives. It isn't a matter of, oh, well,
Speaker 1: just breeze in, sign a couple, uh, a couple of
Speaker 1: corporate deals that make people some money, and they stop shooting.
Speaker 1: That doesn't work that way. The question comes up, uh
Speaker 1: about security and who's going to secure what and how
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down. Mister Vans interject something, and then
Speaker 1: the whole thing turns sour. Mister Trump starts saying that,
Speaker 1: of course, mister Zelensky with his hatred, how can he
Speaker 1: d get two people to do business together if one
Speaker 1: person has so much hatred. He accuses mister Zelenski of
Speaker 1: being the aggressor in the at this point and saying
Speaker 1: that he doesn't hold the cards to keep his country afloat,
Speaker 1: that his country is doomed to be conquered by Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for and it's this part is
Speaker 1: actually true. If it wasn't for the fact that President
Speaker 1: Joe Biden provided weapons and equipment to Ukraine so that
Speaker 1: he could defend his country, Ukraine would have fallen. That
Speaker 1: that part probably is very true. But at this point,
Speaker 1: if mister Trump decides to pull out the pull out
Speaker 1: the equipment, that the country that actually makes most of
Speaker 1: the US weapons will still be providing equipment and weapons
Speaker 1: to Ukraine, because Canada will step up to the plate
Speaker 1: at this point justin do and of course the Liberal
Speaker 1: government say that that they are going to stand with Ukraine.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other other countries. They're saying that
Speaker 1: they're going to stand with Ukraine because the bully in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood is Vladimir Putin, and mister Zelenski has put
Speaker 1: on his big boy pants and has decided to stand
Speaker 1: and protect his country. That's what the bottom line is
Speaker 1: that mister Trump wants him to allow the United States
Speaker 1: to run a buck through that country and take all
Speaker 1: of the rare earth minerals to themselves, in which case
Speaker 1: he will will leave the people of Ukraine with not
Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot. Thus, mister Selensky leaves
Speaker 1: the White House without a deal, or to say, it
Speaker 1: leaves them with without a a treaty agreement between the
Speaker 1: United States and Ukraine so that they can continue a
Speaker 1: relationship together that would work to help make a better world. Instead,
Speaker 1: he leaves after hearing mister Donald Trump say that he
Speaker 1: is going to be the cause of World War three.
Speaker 1: Why don't we listen to a few of the clips
Speaker 1: that I have from from that conversation. Uh, it's actually
Speaker 1: two clips, one at the very beginning, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna hear how as it started to actually
Speaker 1: go sour. So let's move forward and where we're gonna
Speaker 1: listen to those clips. Welcome back to Policy and writes
Speaker 1: here in Depictions Media Radio. I'm your host, Michael Kloggs.
Speaker 1: We have all heard and seen the live broadcast of
Speaker 1: President Trump and President Zelensky. Uh, the Ukrainian leader. Mister
Speaker 1: Trump brought mister Zelensky into the United States, into the
Speaker 1: White House to broker a peace deal to offer mister
Speaker 1: mister Zelensky a way of negotiating with Vladimir Putin so
Speaker 1: that so that the bullets can stop flying across his country,
Speaker 1: and some pretty graphic things that are said about how
Speaker 1: the the because it's good farmland and because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of good rare earth and minerals in uh the
Speaker 1: Ukrainian soil, to help industry that mister Trump wants wants
Speaker 1: to help him uh find a way towards peace, towards
Speaker 1: and protecting the Ukrainian future. So the conversation, it's it
Speaker 1: starts off very nice and and mister Zelensky is passes
Speaker 1: around photographs of the atrocities that the Russian soldiers have
Speaker 1: committed or at least or accused of committed committing. And
Speaker 1: we're talking about and Trump is talking about making a
Speaker 1: deal so that so that those rare earth, minerals and
Speaker 1: resources can be mined and distributed with making of course
Speaker 1: to Ukrainian the country of Ukraine very wealthy and offering
Speaker 1: the people themselves lots of wonderful things. It all becomes really,
Speaker 1: it all sounds really good until the question of what
Speaker 1: type of security is going to be put in place.
Speaker 1: Mister Trump actually refuses to talk about security. He doesn't
Speaker 1: want to talk about how things are going to be protected,
Speaker 1: what is going to protect it, because he says, I
Speaker 1: have to make the deal first, is what he says
Speaker 1: he wants to And it's not necessarily a bad thing
Speaker 1: to make sure that things are down on paper before
Speaker 1: you start to discuss what securities are going to be
Speaker 1: in place, who's going to give up what, who's going
Speaker 1: to pay for what?
Speaker 2: And it in.
Speaker 1: Mister Zelenski brings up a point that when when you
Speaker 1: listen to the to the long form of it, you
Speaker 1: Mister Zelensky brings up a point did that the Russian Federation,
Speaker 1: because of the actions of Vladimir Putin, should be paying
Speaker 1: to restore and rebuild Ukraine. It was his idea to attack.
Speaker 1: It was completely unprovoked, and it's it was on its
Speaker 1: rest on his shoulders to make things right with the
Speaker 1: Ukrainian people. But that that alies the point that mister
Speaker 1: Putin thinks that the Ukrainian people are actually are not
Speaker 1: Ukrainian people, that Ukraine is not a sovereign country. He
Speaker 1: thinks that it is a part of Russia and should
Speaker 1: be returned back to being part of the Russian Federation,
Speaker 1: the same as it was with the with the Soviet
Speaker 1: Union and three years ago mister Putin said the said
Speaker 1: that mister Putin did not want to respect the Minsk
Speaker 1: agreement that collapsed. It collapsed because only only one side
Speaker 1: of the agreement was being upheld, and it wasn't mister
Speaker 1: Putin's side. Mister Trump sits in and refuses to hear
Speaker 1: any criticisms about it. He says that that that he
Speaker 1: holds the key to ensuring that mister Putin will never
Speaker 1: reneagle in a deal again, right after mister Selenski tells
Speaker 1: him that he feigns his signature twenty five times, that
Speaker 1: he backed out of the deal deals twenty five times
Speaker 1: after he signed the deal because he didn't like what
Speaker 1: was going on. Why sign the deal if you're not
Speaker 1: going to uphold the treaty? Why sign the treaty if
Speaker 1: you're not going to uphold it. We need to stop
Speaker 1: calling it a deal. It's a treaty. When things happen
Speaker 1: between two countries, it's a treaty. It's not a deal.
Speaker 1: Mister Trump wants us to think that, oh, this is
Speaker 1: just a simple business transaction between corporations. It isn't this
Speaker 1: involves real lives. War is real bullets shot at real
Speaker 1: people taking away real lives. It isn't a matter of,
Speaker 1: oh well, just breeze in, sign a couple a couple
Speaker 1: of corporate deals that make people some money and they
Speaker 1: stop shooting. That doesn't work that way. The question comes
Speaker 1: up about security and who's going to secure what and
Speaker 1: how it's going to come down. Mister Vans interject something,
Speaker 1: and then the whole thing turns sour. Mister Trump starts
Speaker 1: saying that, of course, mister Zelensky with his hatred, how
Speaker 1: can he get two people to do business together if
Speaker 1: one person has so much hatred. He accuses mister Zelenski
Speaker 1: of being the aggressor at this point and saying that
Speaker 1: he does doesn't hold the cards to keep his country afloat,
Speaker 1: that his country is doomed to be conquered by Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for and it's this part is
Speaker 1: actually true. If it wasn't for the fact that President
Speaker 1: Joe Biden provided weapons and equipment to Ukraine so that
Speaker 1: he could defend his country, Ukraine would have fallen. That
Speaker 1: that part probably is very true. But at this point,
Speaker 1: if mister Trump decides to pull out the pull out
Speaker 1: the equipment, that the country that actually makes most of
Speaker 1: the US weapons will still be providing equipment and weapons
Speaker 1: to Ukraine because Canada will step up to the plate.
Speaker 1: At this point, justin Trudeau and of course the Liberal
Speaker 1: government say that that they are going to stand with Ukraine.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other other countries. They're saying that
Speaker 1: they're going to stand with Ukraine because the bully in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood is Vladimir Putin, and mister Zelenski has put
Speaker 1: on his big boy pants and has decided to stand
Speaker 1: and protect his country. That's what the bottom line is
Speaker 1: that mister Trump wants him to allow the United States
Speaker 1: to run a buck through that country and take all
Speaker 1: of the rare earth minerals to themselves, in which case
Speaker 1: he will will leave the people of Ukraine with not
Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot. Thus, mister Selensky leaves
Speaker 1: the White House without a deal, or should say, he
Speaker 1: leaves them with without a treaty agreement between the United
Speaker 1: States and Ukraine so that they can continue a relationship
Speaker 1: together that would work to help make a better world. Instead,
Speaker 1: he leaves after hearing mister Donald Trump say that he
Speaker 1: is going to be the cause of World War three.
Speaker 3: Why don't we.
Speaker 1: Listen to a few of the clips that have from
Speaker 1: from that conversation. It's actually two clips, one at the
Speaker 1: very beginning, and then we're gonna you're going to hear
Speaker 1: how as it started to actually go sour. So let's
Speaker 1: move forward and we're going to listen to the Cszewski.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like the US is on your side,
Speaker 4: that the president, the President's Trump is on your side at.
Speaker 5: This at this moment, what do you think he wants
Speaker 5: to know? Do you think that sort of a stupid question.
Speaker 5: I guess I guess we wouldn't be here if I
Speaker 5: once or two and a half.
Speaker 2: But I think that I think that the United States
Speaker 2: on our side from the very beginning of occupation, and
Speaker 2: I think that President Trump on our side. And and
Speaker 2: of course i'm not how I'm sure that the United
Speaker 2: States president will not stop support. This is crucial for us.
Speaker 2: It's important for us, Yes, and putting the President speaks
Speaker 2: about the people and the soldiers which are dying, but
Speaker 2: they came to our territory, they came to our land,
Speaker 2: they begin this war and they have to stop. And
Speaker 2: I think this is the question with really the most
Speaker 2: important way, can President Trump I hope yes, with some
Speaker 2: other allies to stop putting, withdraw these enemies our and
Speaker 2: withdraw these troops from our land. And I think that
Speaker 2: you asked them about the history. I think that if
Speaker 2: president or when he will stop putting, if President Trump
Speaker 2: will bring peace to our country, I think he will
Speaker 2: be on this wall.
Speaker 6: Ultimately be the peacemaker and not the president that led
Speaker 6: this country into another war and ended foreign wars.
Speaker 5: I hope it will. I mean, I hope I'm going
Speaker 5: to be remembered as a peacemaker. This is this would
Speaker 5: be a great thing if we could do this. I'm
Speaker 5: doing this to save lives more than anything else. Second
Speaker 5: is to save a lot of money, but I've considered
Speaker 5: that to be far less important.
Speaker 3: So I hope.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna thank you Brian for that question. It was
Speaker 5: a nice question. I hope I'll be no and recognized
Speaker 5: as a peacemaker. This this would be a great thing
Speaker 5: to solve. This is a very dangerous situation. You know,
Speaker 5: this could lead to a third World war. This is
Speaker 5: this was headed in the wrong direction. If this election
Speaker 5: were lost, if we didn't win this election, and by
Speaker 5: way we wanted by a lot, that was a mandate.
Speaker 5: We won every swing state, We won the popular vote
Speaker 5: by millions and millions of votes.
Speaker 3: We won everything the districts.
Speaker 5: You look at the areas of red, take a look
Speaker 5: at a map.
Speaker 3: This was a big mandate.
Speaker 5: And this is one of the things I said, we're
Speaker 5: going to get this thing settled. If we didn't win,
Speaker 5: I think this would have this could have very well
Speaker 5: ended up in a third World war, and that would
Speaker 5: not That would not have been a good situation.
Speaker 3: What was your second question? Second question?
Speaker 6: Do you ever why don't you wear a suit?
Speaker 7: Ye?
Speaker 2: Yeah, problems really, I don't have such I will wear
Speaker 2: costume after this war will finish. Yes, maybe maybe something
Speaker 2: like yours. Yes, maybe some something better. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We will see maybe something cheaper than Yeah, thank you
Speaker 2: if I can answer yes, If I can answer, sorry,
Speaker 2: please please.
Speaker 8: And I do like your clothing, yeah, really, even I
Speaker 8: have to.
Speaker 5: I think he's a great guy. By the way, And
Speaker 5: I don't know if you do like each other. But
Speaker 5: you know what I think.
Speaker 8: I think I like this guy.
Speaker 2: I don't I think he's so I have more I
Speaker 2: have more serious things than answer on such questions. I
Speaker 2: will answer on more serious questions if I can. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so please about security grantees and about just his fire.
Speaker 2: We can't just speak about his fire and speak and
Speaker 2: speak will not work, just as fire will not never war.
Speaker 2: Because I'm like a president, I have this experience, and
Speaker 2: not only me Ukraine before before my presidency from the
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen put In broken twenty five times. Twenty five times,
Speaker 2: he broken his own Sickneayshire, twenty five times, he broke
Speaker 2: and seas fire.
Speaker 3: But it was he never broke it to me. It
Speaker 3: never broke.
Speaker 2: No, No, you was the president. He was the president.
Speaker 3: You never broke to me.
Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, you will being the president, mister president,
Speaker 2: you've been the president. But he had, of course not
Speaker 2: with you, but he had during those periods, he had
Speaker 2: conversations without a side, and we had Norman format. You
Speaker 2: know that, France, Germany, Ukraine and Russia, and he broken
Speaker 2: twenty five times. That's why we will never accept judas fire.
Speaker 2: It will not work without security guarantees. Security guarantees. Maybe
Speaker 2: President is right about this documents another but this document
Speaker 2: is not enough strong guardment is enough because he sold
Speaker 2: you're afraid putting soldiers, afraid of our soldiers. When we're
Speaker 2: strong enough, are not strong enough. If we are empty,
Speaker 2: if our storage is empty, we can't defend our land today.
Speaker 2: You know, he knows that we have met. All the
Speaker 2: world knows that we have meeting. Yes, why he's using
Speaker 2: ballistic put in today, using ballistic on our hospital schools
Speaker 2: and it says ballistic so he knows that we are
Speaker 2: here and that President Trump is really have good will
Speaker 2: to stop, to stop this war. And you hear now
Speaker 2: the president so why he's using so he doesn't want
Speaker 2: to stop, He doesn't want, but I hope that we
Speaker 2: will do it, really will do it. Security. When we
Speaker 2: speak about security guarantees, when the Europeans are ready for contingents,
Speaker 2: they need USA backstop. If they will not the United States,
Speaker 2: we will not never have any contingents strong contigients from
Speaker 2: the Europeans because they don't want to divide airlines connection
Speaker 2: between the United States, the main and strongest a liar
Speaker 2: and Europeans. And this is crucial. This is suppoiled that
Speaker 2: what we want to speak about very much. This is
Speaker 2: very important and the air defense, so our defense really
Speaker 2: we have big deputies with all the systems, and we
Speaker 2: need to provide this. We need it very much. Otherwise
Speaker 2: Putin will never stop and we'll go further and further.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want He hates us. You know, it's not
Speaker 2: about me. He hates Ukrainians. He thinks that we are
Speaker 2: not a nation. He thinks and he shared the sources.
Speaker 2: I think maybe with your team also, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but with all the Europeans in media, officially and not,
Speaker 2: he always said that there is no such country, such nation,
Speaker 2: such language and such life like Ukrainian. No, he really
Speaker 2: doesn't respect all the Ukrainians and he wants destroy us.
Speaker 2: We and you are right, missus Presdent. That's two percent.
Speaker 2: These documents maybe are the documents. It's a very good
Speaker 2: to start, very good, but it will not enough to
Speaker 2: stop this.
Speaker 5: Torson, I'm a business person. We made a deal, That's
Speaker 5: what changed.
Speaker 9: I didn't think we were gonna make a deal, and
Speaker 9: we ended up making the deal, so that changed.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 8: But well, they don't like each other.
Speaker 5: I can tell you that they do not like each other.
Speaker 5: This is not a love match and it's unfortunate. That's
Speaker 5: why you're in this situation. The United States should not
Speaker 5: have allowed this to happen. Okay, the United States, run
Speaker 5: by a man that didn't know much.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be very nice, run by an incompetent person.
Speaker 5: Very incompetent person should never have allowed this to happen.
Speaker 3: I've stopped wars.
Speaker 5: I've stopped many wars, and people will tell you I
Speaker 5: stopped wars that nobody ever heard about. I stop wars
Speaker 5: before they ever started. You can look at some of
Speaker 5: some of I could give you a lot of nations that.
Speaker 3: Would tell you right now they were probably going to war.
Speaker 5: I could tell you right now there's a nation thinking
Speaker 5: about going to war on something that nobody in.
Speaker 3: This room has ever even heard about.
Speaker 5: Two smaller nations but big still big, And I think
Speaker 5: I've stopped it.
Speaker 3: But this should have never happened.
Speaker 2: It's about sorry, just a second, about any negotiations. First
Speaker 2: of all, I want really to tell you, and I
Speaker 2: think that everybody understands that Ukraine more thn Ukrainians. Nobody
Speaker 2: wants to stop this war. But at the future, any ingotiations,
Speaker 2: it's understandable that two sides of the war not Russia
Speaker 2: and the United States, because this is not the war
Speaker 2: between Russia and the United States. This is a war
Speaker 2: of Russia against Ukraine and Ukrainian people. So these two
Speaker 2: sides will be anyway, will be at the negotiation and
Speaker 2: the negotiation table. Then of course the United States like
Speaker 2: the strongest partner of the Ukraine, and of course Europe.
Speaker 2: I think Europe is very important. I want to speak
Speaker 2: about it with the President. Yes, Europe is very important
Speaker 2: for us because we really defend Europe. For today, all
Speaker 2: Europeans are really recognized that we are defending the line
Speaker 2: and they have real life and our people are dying.
Speaker 2: That's why they helped us. And also it's about the need.
Speaker 2: Yes between like the President said, you have big nice
Speaker 2: ocean yes between us. But if we will not stay,
Speaker 2: Russia will go further to Baltics and to Poland by
Speaker 2: the way, but first to the Baltics. It's understandable for
Speaker 2: them because they've been they've been in the USSA, you know,
Speaker 2: they've been one of the republics of the USSA and
Speaker 2: put on once to bring them back to his empire.
Speaker 2: It's a fact. And when he will go there, if
Speaker 2: we will not stay you will fight your American soldiers.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter do you have function or not. Your
Speaker 2: soldiers will fight. It was my question.
Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about Odessa, and let's not
Speaker 5: talk about Ossa.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about making a deal, getting peace.
Speaker 3: We'll have to talk about Odessa.
Speaker 5: But a lot of cities have been destroyed, a lot
Speaker 5: of cities that are not recognizable. There's not a building standing,
Speaker 5: and a lot of a lot of customers.
Speaker 2: You have to come and look. No, no, no, we
Speaker 2: have very good cities. Yes, a lot of things have
Speaker 2: been destroyed, but mostly cities are life and people work
Speaker 2: and children go to school. Sometimes it's very difficult sometimes
Speaker 2: closer to front line children have to go to underground
Speaker 2: schools or online. But we live. Ukraine is fighting and
Speaker 2: Ukraine lives. This is very important and maybe it's putting
Speaker 2: sharing this information that he destroyed us. Now he lost
Speaker 2: seven hundred thousands people, seven hundred thousand soldiers, he lost
Speaker 2: ever seen? Yes, when did you.
Speaker 3: And what did he say that a couple of days ago?
Speaker 10: And when did what did he tell you that gave
Speaker 10: me the assurance that he wanted peace?
Speaker 3: Well that's what I do.
Speaker 8: My whole life is deal.
Speaker 3: I know pretty good.
Speaker 5: Uh, and I really i've uh, I've known him for
Speaker 5: a long time.
Speaker 3: I've dealt with him for a long time.
Speaker 5: He had a suffer through the uh Russia hoax. You know,
Speaker 5: Russia Russia Russia was a hoax. It was all Biden.
Speaker 5: It was nothing to do with him. So he had
Speaker 5: to suffer through that, and he he was able.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: I think that uh, he wants to make a deal
Speaker 5: and he like to see it end.
Speaker 3: That's all I do. That's what I do my whole life.
Speaker 3: That's what I do is make deals.
Speaker 5: And I'm I'm in the middle of a mess because
Speaker 5: this is a real mess.
Speaker 3: It's a very dangerous one.
Speaker 5: If this doesn't get solved now, it's not gonna get
Speaker 5: solved for a long time. So I hope we're gonna.
Speaker 5: I hope we're gonna get it solved. In the back place,
Speaker 5: think he was.
Speaker 11: President uh promise or Starmer claimed repeatedly that his government
Speaker 11: believe prespeesians non gaged and censorship. Uh but estially government
Speaker 11: to resp people over memes and thought crimes and leave
Speaker 11: more worries and is pressurating UH Americans companies to s
Speaker 11: to to censor Americans audience that have How can you
Speaker 11: be a reliable prosperity partner that he says things that
Speaker 11: are demonstrably.
Speaker 2: False on such and important times.
Speaker 5: Well, we actually spoke to him about that yesterday and
Speaker 5: we thought they took it very, very much too far.
Speaker 3: JD was uh very strong on it, so was I.
Speaker 3: Uh so is Marco.
Speaker 5: And we've been speaking to him about it. Marco, would
Speaker 5: you like to say something about it.
Speaker 12: We we we have concerns obviously with the conduc the
Speaker 12: urs particular as it impacts Americans, and there's real concern
Speaker 12: that American speech which is online could fall into the
Speaker 12: hands of the British or any country's jurisdiction. And so
Speaker 12: this is a point the Vice President made of Munich
Speaker 12: and I think is a very component one what unites
Speaker 12: us with Europe as much as anything else is the
Speaker 12: shared values, on one of them being free speech.
Speaker 3: So Americans are threatened by it. We're going to need
Speaker 3: to take.
Speaker 1: Action in that regard.
Speaker 3: It's actually a very important question.
Speaker 10: We spoke about this in detail with the Prime Minister
Speaker 10: of the fourth Secretary of Others at lunch yesterday, and
Speaker 10: I know that Secretary of Commerce Lutnik followed up in
Speaker 10: private meetings last night.
Speaker 2: This is really important.
Speaker 10: We believe Americans have the right to speak their mind,
Speaker 10: even if we in this room disagree with them. They
Speaker 10: have the right to speak their mind in the public scloria,
Speaker 10: which is often online these days, and we're going to
Speaker 10: defend that right as it pertains to American companies and
Speaker 10: American citizens vigorously if we have to. I do think
Speaker 10: that under the President's leadership, we're going to find common
Speaker 10: ground with our friends in the UK on this question,
Speaker 10: but it remains to be seen. The principle that will
Speaker 10: guide us is you believe in free speech in this country,
Speaker 10: and we'll fight for it for American citizens.
Speaker 2: Any other oil and gas components.
Speaker 5: For the deal A little bit, we'll see analogy, but
Speaker 5: we're not really looking for that so much.
Speaker 3: We got a lot.
Speaker 5: We have more than anybody in the world by far.
Speaker 5: So no, we're not talking about it too much, but
Speaker 5: a little bit, I think it it. It affects also,
Speaker 5: but for the most part.
Speaker 10: Now, is there any Ukraineian purchase uh U S salergy
Speaker 10: as part of the deal or no.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask you about so you just
Speaker 2: mentioned that you spoken to Vladimir Putin a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago.
Speaker 8: Just to be clear, that's a new call.
Speaker 3: I've spoken to him on numerous occasions. Okay, how was
Speaker 3: the latest?
Speaker 7: Cool?
Speaker 2: What did you discuss? How did he go?
Speaker 3: Are you serious with that question? It went well, I
Speaker 3: think I think we're going to have a deal.
Speaker 2: From worry goods, Christ, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: To Well, we'll take a look at at the time,
Speaker 5: we have a lot of area. Uh, it's a very
Speaker 5: big area we're talking about, So we'll take a look.
Speaker 5: I'll study that and I'll see and who.
Speaker 1: Would protect those minerals if.
Speaker 3: If the.
Speaker 5: Degree they'll be protected, the agreement will protect 'em the agreement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're signing an agreement.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: Uh, I just told you, I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: And if that were gonna happen, I wouldn't make a deal.
Speaker 5: If I thought that was gonna happen, I wouldn't make
Speaker 5: a deal.
Speaker 3: Is the You know, they ought to focus on.
Speaker 5: CNN on survival, not asking me these ridiculous questions, right,
Speaker 5: focus on surviving, cause CNN's got such low ratings.
Speaker 3: I don't think they gonna survived. Uh, let's go.
Speaker 4: That's just over the alder the National polands Uh. Poland
Speaker 4: was under Russian control for decades after the Second World
Speaker 4: of War.
Speaker 8: When I was a key I look.
Speaker 4: At the United States not only as a most powerful country,
Speaker 4: right you just country the world, the country that has
Speaker 4: great music, great movies, great muscle cars, but also as
Speaker 4: a force for good do you?
Speaker 2: And now I'm talking with my friends in.
Speaker 4: Poland, and they are worried if you align yourself too
Speaker 4: much at the poutine.
Speaker 8: What's your message for them?
Speaker 5: Well, if I didn't align myself with both of them,
Speaker 5: you'd never have a deal. You want me to say, uh,
Speaker 5: really terrible things about Putin and then.
Speaker 3: Say, Hi, Vladimir, how are we doing on the deal?
Speaker 5: That doesn't work that way. I'm not aligned with Putin.
Speaker 5: I'm not aligned with anybody. I'm aligned with the United
Speaker 5: States of America and for the good of the world.
Speaker 5: I'm aligned with the world, and I want to get
Speaker 5: this thing over with. You see the hatred he's got
Speaker 5: for Putin. It's very tough for me to make a
Speaker 5: deal with that kind of hate. He's got tremendous hatred
Speaker 5: and I understand that. But I can tell you the
Speaker 5: other side isn't exactly in love with you know him,
Speaker 5: e there.
Speaker 3: So it's not a question of alignment. I have to
Speaker 3: I'm aligned with the world. I want to get the
Speaker 3: things set. I'm aligned with Europe. I want to see
Speaker 3: if we can get this thing done. You want me
Speaker 3: to be tough.
Speaker 8: I could be tougher that any human being you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I'd be so tough. But you're never going to get
Speaker 3: a deal that way. So that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3: One more question, Yeah, pleasure.
Speaker 8: Hey, I'm gonna respond to this.
Speaker 10: So look, for four years in the United States of America,
Speaker 10: we had a president who stood up at press conferences
Speaker 10: and talked tough about Vladimir Putin, and then Putin invaded
Speaker 10: Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. The
Speaker 10: path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe
Speaker 10: engaging in diplomacy. We tried the pathway of Joe Biden,
Speaker 10: of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of
Speaker 10: the United States's words mattered more than the president of
Speaker 10: the United States's actions. What makes America a good the
Speaker 10: country is America engaging in diplomacy.
Speaker 3: That's what President Trump is doing.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you sure, yeah, yeah, okay, So he
Speaker 2: occupied our big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea.
Speaker 2: So he occupied it on twenty fourteen. So during a
Speaker 2: lot of years, so I'm not speaking about just Biden,
Speaker 2: but those times was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump,
Speaker 2: then President Biden, now the President Trump and God bless
Speaker 2: now President Trump will stop him. But during twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: nobody stopped him. He just occupied and took He killed people.
Speaker 2: You know what they contact twenty fifteen, fourteen, twenty fourty. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he was not here, yeah by the said yes,
Speaker 2: But during twenty fourteen, yeah, what the situation the same
Speaker 2: the people have been done on the contact line. Nobody
Speaker 2: stopped him. You know that. We had conversations with him,
Speaker 2: a lot of conversation, my plateral conversation, and we signed
Speaker 2: with him, me like a you president. In twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: I signed with him the deal I signed with him.
Speaker 2: Macron and meyr Kill we signed ceasefire, ceasefire. All of
Speaker 2: them told me that he will never go. We signed
Speaker 2: him with guess contract. Guess contract, Yes, but after that
Speaker 2: he broken the seas fire, he killed our people and
Speaker 2: he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners,
Speaker 2: but he didn't do it. What kind of diplomacy, GG,
Speaker 2: you're speaking about?
Speaker 3: What what do you mean?
Speaker 10: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
Speaker 10: end the destruction of your country.
Speaker 2: Yes, but if you.
Speaker 10: President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to
Speaker 10: come to the Oval Office to try to litigate this
Speaker 10: in front of the American media. Right now, you guys
Speaker 10: are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines
Speaker 10: because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the
Speaker 10: president to bring it into this company.
Speaker 2: Been to Ukraine that you say, what problems we have?
Speaker 2: I have been to come once.
Speaker 10: I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and
Speaker 10: I know what happens is you bring people, you bring
Speaker 10: them on a propaganda tour. Mister President, are do you
Speaker 10: disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military?
Speaker 10: And do you think that it's respectful allots to come
Speaker 10: to the Oval Office of the United States of America
Speaker 10: and attack the administration that is trying to trying to
Speaker 10: prevent the destruction of your country.
Speaker 2: A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. First wall,
Speaker 2: during the war, everybody has problems, even you. But you
Speaker 2: have nice otion and don't feel now, but you will
Speaker 2: feel it in the fusion. God bless, God, bless You're
Speaker 2: God blessed.
Speaker 8: You don't know.
Speaker 5: Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to
Speaker 5: solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're.
Speaker 3: Going to feel.
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you because you're in no position to
Speaker 2: take Remember this, you're in no position.
Speaker 5: To dictate what we're gonna feel. We're going to feel
Speaker 5: very good. We're gonna feel very good and very strong. You're,
Speaker 5: right now not in a very good position.
Speaker 8: You've allowed you to be a.
Speaker 2: Right from the beginning of the war.
Speaker 3: You're not in a good position.
Speaker 5: You don't have the cards right now with us. You
Speaker 5: start having right now, you don't plays. You're gambling with
Speaker 5: the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with world
Speaker 5: War three. You're gambling with World War three. And what
Speaker 5: you're doing is very disrespectful to the country.
Speaker 3: This country.
Speaker 8: It's back to you far more than a lot of
Speaker 8: people said they should have.
Speaker 2: You said lock times.
Speaker 10: You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
Speaker 10: Offer some words of appreciation for the United States about
Speaker 10: and the president who's trying to save your country.
Speaker 2: Please, you're thinking that if you will speak very loudly
Speaker 2: about the war, he's.
Speaker 8: Not speaking loudly.
Speaker 3: You're not speaking loudly.
Speaker 5: Your country is in big trouble. No, No, you've done
Speaker 5: a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble.
Speaker 8: I know you're not winning. You're not winning this. You
Speaker 8: have a damn good chance of coming out okay, because.
Speaker 3: Of the president.
Speaker 2: We're staying in now, a country staying strong. From the
Speaker 2: very beginning of the war, we've been alone and we
Speaker 2: are thankful. I said, thanks, you haven't been caving it.
Speaker 5: You know, we gave you to said stupid president, three
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 8: We gave your military equipment. You and you met a
Speaker 8: brave but they had to use our military, one of
Speaker 8: our If you didn't have.
Speaker 5: Our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment,
Speaker 5: this war would have been over in two weeks.
Speaker 2: In three days, I heard it from Putin in three days.
Speaker 2: This is how maybe less in two weeks. Of course.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's going to be.
Speaker 3: A very o thing to do business like this.
Speaker 8: I tell you this, thank you, I.
Speaker 7: Said, except for American except that there are disagreements, and
Speaker 7: let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight
Speaker 7: it out in the American media when you're wrong.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 5: But you see, I think it's good for the American
Speaker 5: people to see what's going on here.
Speaker 3: I think it's very important.
Speaker 8: That's why I kept this going so long.
Speaker 3: You have to be thankful.
Speaker 8: You don't have the car.
Speaker 5: You're buried there, your people have died. You're running low
Speaker 5: on soldiers. Listen, you're running low on soldiers. It would
Speaker 5: be a damn good thing. And then you then you
Speaker 5: tell us I don't want to cease fire. I don't
Speaker 5: want to cease fire. I want to go and I
Speaker 5: wanted this. Look, if you could get a ceasefire right now,
Speaker 5: I tell you you take it. So the bullets stopped
Speaker 5: flying and your ment stuff courting.
Speaker 3: Killed won the war.
Speaker 8: But you're saying you don't want to to you.
Speaker 5: I want to see guarantees because you'll get a ceasefire
Speaker 5: faster than anygree.
Speaker 2: That's how more people about just fire. What they see
Speaker 2: that wasn't with me.
Speaker 8: That wasn't with me. That was with a guy named
Speaker 8: Biden who was not a smart person.
Speaker 5: That was excuse me, that was with Obama, who gave
Speaker 5: you sheets and I gave you javelins. I gave you
Speaker 5: the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave
Speaker 5: you sheets. In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets
Speaker 5: and Trump gave javelins. You gotta be more thankful because
Speaker 5: let me tell you, you don't have the cards. With us,
Speaker 5: you have the cards, but without us, you don't have
Speaker 5: any cards. Gonna be a tough deal to make because
Speaker 5: the attitudes have to change.
Speaker 3: What are you saying?
Speaker 10: She's asking, what if Russia brings the ceasefire?
Speaker 5: What if they what if anything? What if bomb drops
Speaker 5: on your head right now? Okay, what if they broke it?
Speaker 8: I don't know. They broke it with.
Speaker 5: Biden because Biden didn't respect him. They didn't respect Obama.
Speaker 5: They respect me. Let me tell you, Putin went through
Speaker 5: a hell of a lot with me. He went through
Speaker 5: a phony witch hunt where they used him in Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
Speaker 8: You ever hear of that deal?
Speaker 5: There was a phony that was a phony hunter Biden,
Speaker 5: Joe Biden, scam, Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 8: Shifty Adam Schiff. It was a Democrat scam and he
Speaker 8: had to go through that. And he did go through it.
Speaker 8: We didn't end up in a war, and he went
Speaker 8: through it. He was accused of all that stuff. He
Speaker 8: had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 5: It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. It came out
Speaker 5: of Hunter Biden's bedroom.
Speaker 8: It was disgusting.
Speaker 5: And then they said, oh oh, the laptop from Hell
Speaker 5: was made by Russia, the fifty one agents.
Speaker 8: The whole thing was a scam and he had to put.
Speaker 3: Up with that.
Speaker 8: He was being accused of all that stuff.
Speaker 5: All I can say is this, he might have broken
Speaker 5: deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken
Speaker 5: him with Biden.
Speaker 8: He did maybe maybe he did. I don't know what happened,
Speaker 8: but he didn't break him with me.
Speaker 3: He wants to make a deal.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you can make a deal.
Speaker 5: The problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy,
Speaker 5: and I don't think you'd be a tough guy without
Speaker 5: the United States. And your people are very brave. But
Speaker 5: you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
Speaker 5: And if we're out, you'll fight it out. I don't
Speaker 5: think it's gonna be pretty, but you'll fight it out,
Speaker 5: but you don't have the cards. But once we signed
Speaker 5: that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're
Speaker 5: not acting at all thankful. And that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 5: I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 8: I think we've seen enough.
Speaker 3: What do you think? Huh?
Speaker 8: This is gonna be great television.
Speaker 3: I will say that, all right.
Speaker 8: We'll see what we can do about putting it together.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
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