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<v Speaker 1>Get ready for September three, twenty twenty five. Allegedly, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the thing we call a calendar, this the o'celly effect.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that because you found it and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>as easy to find as I used to be. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to a Wednesday. And since I meant to do

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<v Speaker 1>a show yesterday, which was Tuesday, Tuesday, and didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to it, that means we're going to try and bang

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<v Speaker 1>out too tonight. So what is it that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss with you? Well, I'm going to save the

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<v Speaker 1>news to the second piece, just to see if my

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<v Speaker 1>voice holds up, because I've been sick over the past

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<v Speaker 1>few days and I've been doing the best well past

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<v Speaker 1>few days, jeez, past I don't even know how long

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks. Anyway, I've been sick. I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>battle with things. Had the water shut off couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>had the electricity down, had the internet. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a weird month. Anyway. Does anybody want to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to me? Bitch? Probably not. Let's get to the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of the reality. And this is something I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>the Mandela Mandola effect affect. Okay, hopefully you can follow

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<v Speaker 1>that because the Mandela effect. We hear about this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, especially in the alternative spaces, and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>very very popular on YouTube as well among many performative

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seemingly conspiracy oriented channels. All that good stuff. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's blow your mind with the simulation theory, all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff which has been discussed in alternative media spaces for

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<v Speaker 1>years and years, except now they generated through AI sludge

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, clearly narrated AI. I think AI is

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<v Speaker 1>assembling the video as well, and people are pumping these

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<v Speaker 1>things out fast and furious. So let's get back to

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<v Speaker 1>a real discussion on it and once again kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cap it off. Because the bottom line on the Mandela effect,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole concept that a lot of people think that

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<v Speaker 1>they are from a different reality or different realities collided

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<v Speaker 1>or something to this effect, due to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they have a memory they believe of Nelson Mandela dying

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen nineties and things changed from there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden they think, you know, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Peanut did or didn't have a monocle, the monopoly guy

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<v Speaker 1>did or didn't have a monocle, etc. Etc. And therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>since their memories don't match, or kit Kat had a dash,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a dash? Does have a dash? Now, as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying these things and even bringing up the weirdness

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sinbad movie that was allegedly produced called Shazam

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<v Speaker 1>or Couzam and was it with Shack or was it

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<v Speaker 1>with Sinbad? Simply because Sinbad used to run around in

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<v Speaker 1>genie pants and all all that good stuff. People think

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<v Speaker 1>that their memories are more reliable than the reality. And

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<v Speaker 1>this leads us to two very interesting concepts. And like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the Mandela effect versus the Mandola effect. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the news, I'm going to get to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why people that know very little always believe

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<v Speaker 1>their own stupidity above all else any evidence, anything that

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<v Speaker 1>could disprove it. Their confidence in their stupidity is part

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<v Speaker 1>of their stupidity. In fact, intelligence, once it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain level, causes one to question themselves and every

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<v Speaker 1>assertion they find and even triple or quadruple check their facts,

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<v Speaker 1>verify things, corroborate them, etc. When you're more intelligent, you

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<v Speaker 1>are not quite as absolute in your certainties when your

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<v Speaker 1>assertions come through your memory. In general, anything you've learned

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<v Speaker 1>anyway This is all about the way memory is created

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<v Speaker 1>and how people completely misunderstand it. And that's all there

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<v Speaker 1>is to it. See, a lot of people think that

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<v Speaker 1>a memory is a recording. I have a memory. Therefore

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<v Speaker 1>it is the strongest thing, and indeed you can maintain

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<v Speaker 1>and keep certain information about particular events stored in your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But every time you relive or reaccess that memory, it

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<v Speaker 1>is altered chemically and directly by the electrical responses in

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<v Speaker 1>the brain. Literally physiologically. The recall of your memory is

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<v Speaker 1>an effort that takes place freshly every time you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what, that's always subject to revision and always

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<v Speaker 1>subject to at least perception being changed due to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you have new information which has been added

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<v Speaker 1>to and altered your perception from but new experiences, new

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<v Speaker 1>things gained over time. You may not have understood something

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<v Speaker 1>you were looking at at the age of five, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to be ten, eleven, twelve, you now

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<v Speaker 1>can put it into a context based on new information,

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<v Speaker 1>and you might have not realized. You know, we've all

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<v Speaker 1>heard the jokes about I thought mommy and Daddy were

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling and they were actually having sex because the five

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<v Speaker 1>year old didn't quite get sex just yet in their brain.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they realized that at the age of twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>they realized that at the age of five, they saw sex.

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<v Speaker 1>And that has to be adjusted now because now it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like wrestling. It doesn't appear to be a struggle,

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<v Speaker 1>although I guess for some people's sex is a struggle anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The beauty of all of this is that we now

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<v Speaker 1>live in a society where the Mandela effect is a

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<v Speaker 1>useful tool as well as the Mendala affect. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to explain that thing in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>But remember cast Sunstein, right, and the white paper that

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<v Speaker 1>came out about turning conspiracy theories on their head, turning

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<v Speaker 1>them against themselves, weaponizing them by infiltration, by misinformation, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that interesting stuff. Sunstein promised literate observers will

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<v Speaker 1>see the intentional, ironic engineering to occupy the easily amused

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<v Speaker 1>with trivial pursuits, rewarded with even less than a plastic wedge. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And a mandala, by the bye, is a sacred symbol creation.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen these sand pictures that people put together, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of a very deep, very careful, very persistent, slow

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<v Speaker 1>moving zen arrangement of sand or rocks. In these really elaborate,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting designs have become quite symmetrical and all that. Yes, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an old Hindu practice that has been adopted

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<v Speaker 1>and it comes from the Sanskrit word for circle and

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<v Speaker 1>is meant to evoke the idea of a geometric design

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<v Speaker 1>representing the cosmos or deities in the Hindu and Buddhist traditions.

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<v Speaker 1>But the symbolic meaning of mandalis okay, symbolize the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>its wholeness, its balance. That's why the symmetrical arrangement is necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>and our relationship with infinity as it relates to relative positions.

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<v Speaker 1>The creation is a meditative practice and the designs are

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<v Speaker 1>meant to aid in spiritual and psychological growth. Okay. The

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of course is to focus on the design and

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<v Speaker 1>moving toward the center to where you have a finite

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<v Speaker 1>amount of space and therefore it becomes complete. The practitioners

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<v Speaker 1>symbolically guide themselves through a process of transforming a universe

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<v Speaker 1>of chaos and suffering into one of a beautiful arrangement

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<v Speaker 1>or you know what people call joy. Anyway, the Western interpretation,

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<v Speaker 1>the psychologist Carl jung Right introduced the concept to the West,

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<v Speaker 1>interpreting mandalis as archetypal symbols representing the mind's quest for

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<v Speaker 1>inner reconciliation and wholeness. And even you can see this

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<v Speaker 1>in the common Judeo Christian and practices where they say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it is as above as it is below,

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<v Speaker 1>and so on and so forth. The cyclical and symmetrical

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<v Speaker 1>relationship of what if you make it this way on earth,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be this way in heaven, or if it

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<v Speaker 1>is this way in heaven, it can be this way

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<v Speaker 1>on earth. And people have continued to struggle with that

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<v Speaker 1>open ended equation. Anyway, this is just another attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal the truth to people that really don't want it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, again, I'm gonna keep going with this,

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<v Speaker 1>and once again for context, the Mandela effect is a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon which is a great example of those who know

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<v Speaker 1>nothing insisting that they have discovered more than the reality

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<v Speaker 1>they already have no grasp on. You know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>all the product changes movie lines. Hey, I thought he said, Luke,

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<v Speaker 1>I am your father versus no, I am your fado.

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<v Speaker 1>But does anyone discussing the other universe principle understand that

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<v Speaker 1>concept or even how that would manifest itself. Do they

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<v Speaker 1>possess any knowledge on how memory works and the ability okay,

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<v Speaker 1>for reprocessing of fragments stored in a less than static

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<v Speaker 1>facility in the brain. No, they don't. They also don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand the psychological phenomena. And believe me, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of most of these, you know, psychological principles

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<v Speaker 1>that are flung out there and represented as if they

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<v Speaker 1>were scientific, even though they are performative and interesting insights

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes into the sociology and the way that we interact

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<v Speaker 1>with one another. The Dunning Kruger effect is something that

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<v Speaker 1>I think people need to look up, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>look in the show notes, I'll make sure to include it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also a terrifying theory of stupidity, and these

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<v Speaker 1>are things that again Machiavelli understood, okay, and even Sunsu

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<v Speaker 1>with the Art of War, understood quite well how our

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<v Speaker 1>memories formed. That is another interesting thing. Again, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a biochemical element to it, and there is still a

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<v Speaker 1>mystical element to it in that people that say they

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<v Speaker 1>understand the body, the mind scientifically, etc. Cannot explain where

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<v Speaker 1>storage and presentation become this unshaken reality in people's minds,

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<v Speaker 1>their memories being absolute until often they're introduced with very

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<v Speaker 1>solid evidence that their memory is flawed. And it happens

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<v Speaker 1>all the time in eyewitness testimony, which is why you

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<v Speaker 1>know eyewitness testimony is a useful guide, but is never

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute certainty when you're seeking the truth of a circumstance,

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<v Speaker 1>a situation, a landscape, anything anyway. The Mandela effect, flat

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<v Speaker 1>earth and the everything is Fake paradigm are the best

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<v Speaker 1>subversions of critical thinking and any chance for the conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>culture and those that challenge the architecture of selective ignorance. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>to seek the new savior, daddy. This is what the

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<v Speaker 1>common populist idea is. And what do they do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because their adult minds can't confront the complexities of them,

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<v Speaker 1>so defaulting to becoming a child and allowing the leadership

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<v Speaker 1>to make all decisions, in all declarations absolute for them

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<v Speaker 1>is the way to go. And it becomes even more

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<v Speaker 1>confusing when the leader in air quotes is somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a coherent message or a logical one. We

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<v Speaker 1>see this more prominently on the you know, left handed

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<v Speaker 1>side of things. Apparently because they are completely incoherent about

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<v Speaker 1>their own standards. I mean, the standard on the right

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<v Speaker 1>nowadays is very simple. Whatever Trump says goes, and if

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<v Speaker 1>he changed his mind, then he changed his mind for

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<v Speaker 1>a good reason. So follow the leader. Very simple. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that has its own problems. Not going to get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to the circular firing squad of the left.

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<v Speaker 1>If you try to line up and make their alleged

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<v Speaker 1>points of view and alleged you know of practice for

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<v Speaker 1>morality into a straight line, you can't do it. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't comport with one another, The cohorts do not comply

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<v Speaker 1>with one another's logic. You have constant contradiction and subversion

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<v Speaker 1>of the alleged core beliefs always, and I argue that

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<v Speaker 1>that is on purpose, just like the turning of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire leadership over to one man is also a terribly

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<v Speaker 1>flawed circumstance on the right. But again, I'm not here

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<v Speaker 1>to pick on the right. I'm here to pick on

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<v Speaker 1>something else, like the confidence illusion. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>use a couple of YouTube video audios so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen to me, because I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have already tuned out because they've had an

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<v Speaker 1>emotional reaction and somehow think I'm directing this at their

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<v Speaker 1>team one way or another, at their particular compartment. But

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<v Speaker 1>the truth is I'm directing this at ninety five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of all people that you see anywhere, because there's only

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<v Speaker 1>about five percent of us that are not trapped in

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<v Speaker 1>the illusion of confidence. And the thing is, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>get to positions of leadership when we're of a higher

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual strength than those that are confident in their own ignorance.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if these YouTube videos can help me explain

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<v Speaker 1>this a little better for you guys, and I'll make

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever noticed how the loudest voice in the

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<v Speaker 1>But it does play a role in the Machiavellian thing

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<v Speaker 2>How much they don't know. The fool does think he

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<v Speaker 2>it a name, but Machiavelli would have recognized it immediately

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<v Speaker 2>as a fundamental truth about power dynamics. Modern research confirms

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrated expertise. Consider figures like George Armstrong Custer, whose supreme

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<v Speaker 2>the post Soviet privatization. Singapore, by contrast, built safeguards specifically

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<v Speaker 2>designed to prevent confidence from trumping competence in leadership selection.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twelve, researchers from Stanford and the University of

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<v Speaker 2>Houston found that narcissism, not competence, may be the strongest

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<v Speaker 2>Groups led by narcissists didn't perform better. They just thought

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so again for context. There is a circumstance

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it is Custer or it's these other guys who

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<v Speaker 1>is markedly and measurably worse off than the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>is a whole lot more effective than giving you facts

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<v Speaker 1>and figures, and people glaze over. They just do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a simple reality here that we're dealing with all the

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you probably knew that if you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>me before. Anyway, back to the history lesson. I like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Become problematic in our complex modern world, where genuine expertise

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<v Speaker 2>often involves acknowledging uncertainty. This confidence illusion explains how incompetent

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<v Speaker 2>individuals might initially rise to power, but there's something even

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<v Speaker 2>more insidious at play, a mechanism that helps them entrench

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout entire organizations. I like that. That's pretty interesting, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not always about the unstructured. Sometimes it's about quite

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<v Speaker 2>Incompetent leaders tend to surround themselves with even less competent subordinates.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Prince, Machiavelli wrote, the first method for estimating

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<v Speaker 2>men he has around him. What Machiavelli understood was that

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<v Speaker 2>weak leaders deliberately select weaker subordinates to ensure they never

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<v Speaker 2>face threats to their authority. This creates a cascading effect

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<v Speaker 2>wherein competence becomes institutionalized. Doctor Toma Camoro Primusic and organizational

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<v Speaker 2>psychologists describes this as competence threatening. Insecure leaders feel threatened

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<v Speaker 2>Emperor Commutus's court, capable administrators were systematically replaced by flatterers

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<v Speaker 2>political system institutionalizes this dynamic, where in competent political appointees

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<v Speaker 2>incompetent leaders create islands of incompetence around themselves, insulated from

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<v Speaker 2>conflicting viewpoints and constructive criticism. Ask yourself, have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>raising concerns was labeled as not being a team player.

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<v Speaker 2>These are symptoms of this network effect and action. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>even knowing all this, we still find ourselves drawn to

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<v Speaker 2>leaders who offer simplistic answers. This vulnerability helps explain why

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<v Speaker 2>incompetence continues to thrive despite our best intentions. Why do

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<v Speaker 2>we often choose leaders who offer simple answers to complex problems.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer lies in cognitive psychology and our fundamental need

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<v Speaker 2>for certainty in an uncertain world. Genuine expertise is almost

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<v Speaker 2>always accompanied by nuance. Real experts understand the limitations of

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<v Speaker 2>these intellectual virtues can be profoundly unsatisfying to our psychological needs.

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<v Speaker 2>For the great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances

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<v Speaker 2>When Machiavelli wrote these words, he identified something fundamental about

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<v Speaker 2>or realistic. Consider what happens in times of crisis or uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 2>People rarely rally behind the leader who says this is

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<v Speaker 2>a complex situation with no easy answers that will require

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<v Speaker 2>person confidently proclaiming I alone can fix this. The solution

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<v Speaker 2>is simple. Look at how actual environmental scientists speak about

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<v Speaker 2>climate change with careful caveats, ranges of possibilities, and nuanced

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<v Speaker 2>or consider healthcare debates, Actual medical experts acknowledge complex trade

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<v Speaker 2>offs in any system, while political figures offered simplistic solutions

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<v Speaker 2>that promise everything with no downsides. Which approach typically wins

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<v Speaker 1>See now the beauty of that is you can apply

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<v Speaker 1>not scientifically sound. It wasn't as though it was completely useless,

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<v Speaker 1>that was being loosed on people. And even today some

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<v Speaker 1>of the more you know, supposedly intelligent people well speak

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<v Speaker 1>now because you're looking to explore a possibility, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>obviously clear that disaster strikes and even then there will

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<v Speaker 1>there is always a diversion, but there is no never

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<v Speaker 1>the careful examination by people who might be might be

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<v Speaker 1>This is the problem we find ourselves in politically, socially, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, we find ourselves in the midst of this

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<v Speaker 1>You know, much like the concept of I watched a

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<v Speaker 1>Simply because you experienced it a certain way does not

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<v Speaker 1>January twentieth of this year, everything changed right away. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not a supportable position that that leadership change caused

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<v Speaker 1>anything to instantaneously occur, except what the mood of the

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<v Speaker 1>easily influenced, and that does create literal changes, but only

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<v Speaker 1>as a reaction. They're putting the chicken before the egg,

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<v Speaker 1>and the egg before the chicken, and the horse before

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<v Speaker 1>the cart, and mixing it all up until they get

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<v Speaker 1>the combination they want, and those are the points of

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<v Speaker 1>view that you won't mostly hear, especially by those that

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<v Speaker 1>feel as though their opinion drives everything in reality. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see somebody demonstrate how their opinion drives

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<v Speaker 1>everything in reality, but it does not. Now, your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>may drive enough influence to then shift reality because you

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<v Speaker 1>have a massive people now acting on behalf of your opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is yet again another dangerous weapon. Anyway, let's

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<v Speaker 1>return to this discussion quickly, and I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of this one soon and go to another audio

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is just as instructive, and it will

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<v Speaker 1>be about that little psychological concept that I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you about before, and again the complete works on

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<v Speaker 1>these things will be in the show notes, also about

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<v Speaker 1>the formation of memory, recent scientific studies, and a few

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<v Speaker 1>other things. But I urge you to take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at more than that, go beyond what it is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>showing you and try to apply these things for yourself. Yes, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to think for yourself and find the

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<v Speaker 1>answer you can relate to please, so that you see

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how this mass manipulation is truly a unified theory

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<v Speaker 1>that is being loosed on us from the alleged opponents

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Like I say all the time, it is

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<v Speaker 1>the WWE circumstance. Here's your good guy, here's your bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You might like to root for the bad guy because

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<v Speaker 1>you like the anti heroo. You got to do that sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And either way, at the end of the day, the

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<v Speaker 1>same corporation pays them, and you are just a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the audience. You're just an observer. Sure you can

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<v Speaker 1>change their financial fortunes because you've been given this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that participating in that particular transaction will do what, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>help to shape your identity. In fact, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>way people identify themselves. I am this, I am that

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<v Speaker 1>I fit with this group, that group, et cetera. I

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<v Speaker 1>root for the undertaker as opposed to Hull Cogan. I

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<v Speaker 1>root for hull Cogan. Yeah. Sure, that is a way

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<v Speaker 1>to identify where you're at when you're in the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>But does it really identify who you are when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on your own and trying to make your way through life?

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<v Speaker 1>And how does that fit with this idea that you

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<v Speaker 1>find all the time that confidence is not rewarded confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course is you know, the longer word. At

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of con Man, confidence is what's rewarded, and

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<v Speaker 1>really it's about the strength of confidence as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's effective, useful, or helpful to you, which is

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<v Speaker 1>how people wind up giving away their money for nothing

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<v Speaker 1>and et cetera, et cetera, and selling their souls literally

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<v Speaker 1>almost you know, and not realizing it until much later

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<v Speaker 1>that they were had. And it's to be kept in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when things are amplified unreasonably, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>big threat from what might be about one hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>in the whole country is a massive threat that needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be worked over and fixed right away. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there's tens of thousands of others that are

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<v Speaker 1>causing a serious problem, well you ignore them because they're

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<v Speaker 1>on your side. Their problem is acceptable or not even

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<v Speaker 1>a problem they're creating. Even if death, destruction, costs and

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<v Speaker 1>things come directly out of your pocket based on their actions,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter because they're the good guys anyway back

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They particularly Jarring twenty seventeen experiment, Yale researchers discovered something

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<v Speaker 2>disturbing about how we process political information. When subjects were

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<v Speaker 2>presented with mathematically complex policy problems and solutions. Their ability

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<v Speaker 2>to correctly interpret the data was directly affected by whether

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<v Speaker 2>the results aligned with their political beliefs. Even more striking,

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<v Speaker 2>the most mathematically skilled participants showed the strongest bias, using

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<v Speaker 2>their intelligence not to reach the correct answer, but to

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<v Speaker 2>justify their preferred conclusion. Cognitive psychologists call this cognitive closure,

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<v Speaker 2>our desire for definite answers rather than continued ambiguity. Studies

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<v Speaker 2>show that when people feel threatened or uncertain, their need

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<v Speaker 2>for cognitive closure increases dramatically. They become more receptive to

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<v Speaker 2>black and white thinking and more willing to follow authoritarian

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<v Speaker 2>leaders who project absolute certainty. This creates a dangerous dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>The more complex and frightening our world becomes, the more

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<v Speaker 2>susceptible we become to simplistic thinking and the leaders who

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<v Speaker 2>peddle it. It's like a psychological immune system failure. Precisely

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<v Speaker 2>when we most need nuanced thinking, we become most vulnerable

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<v Speaker 2>to intellectual shortcuts. Ask yourself, have you ever found yourself

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<v Speaker 2>drawn to an explanation precisely because it was simple and definitive,

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<v Speaker 2>even when part of you suspected the reality was more complex.

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<v Speaker 2>That's this principle at work in your own mind. While

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<v Speaker 2>our psychological comfort with simplicity explains part of this dynamic,

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<v Speaker 2>there's an even more troubling dimension to consider, one that

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<v Speaker 2>reveals why intelligence alone doesn't guarantee effective resistance to manipulative power.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. That's fascinating there, because intelligence alone will not prevent

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<v Speaker 1>you from being sucked into the more simplistic ideas and answers.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked and thought it was because repetition was made

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<v Speaker 1>much simpler by the fact that it's a much easier

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<v Speaker 1>thing to repeat. I always thought that was the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of play there. But there is more to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the ethical handicap that is involved. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>listen to a little more of this before I take

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<v Speaker 1>a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's where Machiavelli becomes truly unsettling. He suggested that moral

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<v Speaker 2>considerations often handicap intelligent people in power struggles, and what

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<v Speaker 2>might be his most infamous passage, he wrote, it is

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<v Speaker 2>necessary for a prince who wishes to maintain his position

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<v Speaker 2>to learn how not to be good, and to use

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<v Speaker 2>this knowledge or not to use it according to necessity.

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<v Speaker 2>While intelligent people typically develop more complex moral reasoning, this

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<v Speaker 2>can actually impede their ability to compete for power against

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<v Speaker 2>those unburdened by such considerations. In any competitive environment, the

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<v Speaker 2>person willing to cross ethical lines has access to strategies

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<v Speaker 2>that morally constrained competitors do not. They can make promises

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<v Speaker 2>they have no intention of keeping. They can undermine rivals

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<v Speaker 2>through deception. They can exploit fears and prejudices that others

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<v Speaker 2>refuse to touch. Consider the contrasting fates of Cicero versus

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<v Speaker 2>Julius Caesar in ancient Rome. Cicero, brilliant and principled, ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>lost the power struggle to Caesar, who had no qualms

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<v Speaker 2>about crossing the rubicon literally and figuratively breaking norms his

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<v Speaker 2>opponents felt bound to respect. In modern context we see

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<v Speaker 2>ethical candidates struggling against opponents willing to employ deception and

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<v Speaker 2>character assassination. In organizational contexts, University of British Columbia researchers

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<v Speaker 2>found that psychopathic traits like lack of empathy were positively

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<v Speaker 2>associated with rapid advancement when combined with social charm. This

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<v Speaker 2>pattern appears cross culturally from China's Shengnu ruthless businesswoman archetype

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<v Speaker 2>to Nordic companies, where studies show that, despite cultural emphasis

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<v Speaker 2>on collaboration, manipulative leaders often outpace their more ethical peers

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<v Speaker 2>in advancement speed. This creates what game theorists call a

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<v Speaker 2>race to the bottom. When unethical tactics prove successful, others

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<v Speaker 2>face pressure to adopt similar approaches or be left behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Over time, this can transform entire systems, making unethical behavior

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<v Speaker 2>the norm rather than the exception. Understanding these dark dynamics

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<v Speaker 2>might make the situation seem hopeless, but not all environments

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<v Speaker 2>equally reward incompetence and unethical behavior. By recognizing which conditions

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<v Speaker 2>favored stupi, pidity, and power, we can begin to design

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<v Speaker 2>systems that select for genuine merit instead. Machiavelli understood that

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<v Speaker 2>different environments reward different qualities. Some contexts naturally select for competence,

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<v Speaker 2>while others create fertile ground for incompetence to flourish. What

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<v Speaker 2>determines which type of environment develops several structural factors. First, feedback,

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<v Speaker 2>loops and accountability structures. In environments with clear immediate feedback

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<v Speaker 2>about decisions, and competence is quickly exposed. Think of a

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<v Speaker 2>surgeon whose patients consistently die or a bridge engineer whose

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<v Speaker 2>structures collapse. These fields tend to select for genuine competence

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<v Speaker 2>because failure is obvious and consequential. But in environments where

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<v Speaker 2>feedback is delayed, indirect or easily manipulated, incompetence can thrive indefinitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Systems where outcomes can be blamed on predecessors or external factors,

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<v Speaker 2>corporate hierarchies where results can be obscured through creative accounting,

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<v Speaker 2>or media landscapes where being entertaining matters more than being accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>These are all fertile grounds for the incompetent to rise. Second,

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<v Speaker 2>institutional design and power distribution. Centralized power systems with weak

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<v Speaker 2>checks and balances create conditions where incompetence flourishes. The Soviet

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<v Speaker 2>Union's collapse was accelerated by a system that concentrated decision

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<v Speaker 2>making and unaccountable hands. Conversely, Germany's dual board corporate governance structure,

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<v Speaker 2>which separates management from oversight, provides structural resistance to incompetent leadership. Third,

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<v Speaker 2>information asymmetry and complexity. When success is easily measured and compared,

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<v Speaker 2>merit tends to win, but when goals are ambiguous or

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<v Speaker 2>success is subjectively evaluated, style often Trump's substance. Men judge

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<v Speaker 2>generally more by the eye than by the hand, because

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<v Speaker 2>it belongs to everybody to see you, to few to

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<v Speaker 2>come in touch with you. What Machiavelli recognized here is

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<v Speaker 2>that most people evaluate others based on surface impressions rather

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<v Speaker 2>than deep understanding, especially in complex domains where few have

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<v Speaker 2>the expertise to make inform judgments. Fourth, economic incentive structures

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<v Speaker 2>systems that reward short term performance over long term outcomes

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<v Speaker 2>create fertile ground for incompetent leadership with superficial charm. The

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight financial crisis exemplified how incentive structures

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<v Speaker 2>rewarding immediate profits regardless of risk, fostered leadership that prioritized

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<v Speaker 2>appearance over substance. Ask yourself in your own life which

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<v Speaker 2>environmental factors promote competence and which enable incompetence to thrive.

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<v Speaker 2>Understanding these structural forces can help you navigate your own

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<v Speaker 2>path and recognize when systems are vulnerable to manipulation. Even

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<v Speaker 2>in well designed systems, and competent leaders can still rise

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<v Speaker 2>by employing specific psychological tactics that allow them to manipulate

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<v Speaker 2>perception and neutralize opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>And that to me is one of the key factors here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that right there. If you can manipulate the perception, then

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<v Speaker 1>the results nuanced and over a period of time are

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily evaluated correctly. So there you go. You shift

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<v Speaker 1>the blamee, you turn it on your predecessor, you turn

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<v Speaker 1>it on external factors, and none of it falls on you,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you were able to take credit for immediate

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<v Speaker 1>gains and things like that, like that financial crisis. Those

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<v Speaker 1>companies were doing well, their stockholders were happy, they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting big bonuses, and then everybody said, why the hell

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<v Speaker 1>did that happen when they were setting them up for collapse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because the longer term result was not known right away,

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<v Speaker 1>and the perception was manipulated, and just by that perception,

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to keep up the value of all

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<v Speaker 1>those collapsed assets. Pretty simple, And this is what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, these presidential administrations and various other leaders

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<v Speaker 1>and other parts of the world. Hey, look, this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Things are collapsing now, not recognizing that it

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<v Speaker 1>took time for the results of somebody else's actions to

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<v Speaker 1>really take hold. But if things are a me idiot,

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<v Speaker 1>things are simple, and perception is manipulated regardless of what

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<v Speaker 1>is accounted for as results, then it all becomes irrelevant. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get into the Dunning Kruger effect just a

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<v Speaker 1>bit before I'm all done here, and see if you

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<v Speaker 1>learned anything as I end.

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<v Speaker 3>This first, Joe, what the effects.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you express? My caller schools there anyone else who

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<v Speaker 1>happens to get on the air to Jelly dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not necessarily reflect the US, and we are not

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for anstrue baby which might issue revel like.

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<v Speaker 3>Through calm section.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh chill me.

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<v Speaker 4>Fact, Oh Sally fast Ring and from my ry mas,

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't all the world you hardly hour back?

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<v Speaker 6>Yah, go ahead, call it about the JAFA assassination.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, what do you want to know Tony.

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<v Speaker 6>Baker's wild claim? Oswald girlfriend, if you knew Ruby and

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<v Speaker 6>Barry answer weapons? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make me a wagon.

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<v Speaker 6>But okay, building and trying to prevent the murder of

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<v Speaker 6>John Kennedy Come on now has a real effort on

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<v Speaker 6>the day of Heay assassination. Book into her claims.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her

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<v Speaker 1>own words, you'll get the results for a digital copy

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<v Speaker 1>of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words

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<v Speaker 1>and the known evidence in the case to get at

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<v Speaker 1>well a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Baker in her own words from the author himself,

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<v Speaker 1>signed if you request it by contacting doctor Brown at

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<v Speaker 1>k I A S JFK at aol dot com. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun book and it actually dissects the many, many

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic claims Baker in her own words.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for all the great information you like.

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<v Speaker 7>History, real history that you were never taught in schools.

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<v Speaker 7>up to this Why the Vietnam War, Nuclear Bombs and

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<v Speaker 7>conversation episode says we're a bar na.

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<v Speaker 1>Soos uncle.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you remember that time when Benjamin Fulford said that

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<v Speaker 5>an Asian secret society was going to dispatch ninjas to

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<v Speaker 5>take down the illuminati.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah in the latoon.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah did that ever work out too good?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 5>It didn't, did it? But here on o'chelly dot com

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<v Speaker 5>radio network, things work out a bit better, don't.

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<v Speaker 7>They Much better? Much clear and understanding about the programs,

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<v Speaker 7>The programs much clearer, getting live people into it.

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<v Speaker 1>They really have a good conversation going.

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<v Speaker 5>Much better, much better scene. I say, forget Benjamin Fulford

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<v Speaker 5>and his ninjas and listen to the Ocelli dot com

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<v Speaker 5>radio network.

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<v Speaker 7>I agree, it's straight to the point, straight talk, and

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<v Speaker 7>I like that idea dot com Oh Chili dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>I still mind it from my grandma. I got stakes.

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<v Speaker 3>I have checked to go to college by some the dobe.

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<v Speaker 4>By Nam stuff that weird. I'd be doing it well

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<v Speaker 4>your Moby, that ship within your dime.

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<v Speaker 3>As a g doub.

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<v Speaker 1>Well dot com radio network. So after that break, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that, you know, people can take into their minds

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<v Speaker 1>some of what was being discussed there. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think all of it will hit you at once. You

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<v Speaker 1>might have to listen to this more than one time.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I'm using the assistance of a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>better explainers that I found regarding some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading up on. So this is about the

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<v Speaker 1>Dunning Krueger effect, Okay, and again I just want you

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to it objectively and see what you can

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<v Speaker 1>apply it to. I'm not aiming at any particular political party, religion, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want you to take this in and see

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do with it, because I see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things being hijacked by the most incompetent and

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<v Speaker 1>idiotic people, and I gotta tell you, there's nobody on

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<v Speaker 1>any one side any equation that seems to be immune

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<v Speaker 1>from these particular practices, issues, realities, pieces of human psychology

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<v Speaker 1>that do make us a little more subject to manipulation

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<v Speaker 1>than I think anybody really wants to admit anyway, the

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<v Speaker 1>Dunning Kruger effect.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety nine, social psychologists David Dunning and Justin

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<v Speaker 2>Krueger published a groundbreaking study that would forever change our

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of human cognition. Their research identified a cognitive bias

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<v Speaker 2>that now bears their names, the Dunning Kruger effect. This

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenon explains why the least skilled individuals in a domain

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<v Speaker 2>often dramatically overestimate their abilities, while true experts tend to

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<v Speaker 2>underestimate theirs. As Dunning himself put it, the first rule

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<v Speaker 2>of the Dunning Kruger club is you don't know you're

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<v Speaker 2>a member of the Dunning Krueger Club. Today we'll dive

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<v Speaker 2>deep into this psychological phenomenon that affects us all to

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<v Speaker 2>some degree. We'll explore its origins, mechanisms, real world examples,

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<v Speaker 2>and most importantly, how to recognize and overcome it in ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this is again from Let's See philosophy. Coded is

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the is the name of the YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot more to it than just what

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<v Speaker 1>they have on their channel. It's just a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>these simple explainers do help to uh, to codify what

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<v Speaker 1>it is I'm trying to relate to you. And I

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<v Speaker 1>read up on this Dunning Kruger thing and they did

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<v Speaker 1>a good job explaining what this study showed and how

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<v Speaker 1>the bias is developed. And think about this. Just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just my words, but think about how often

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<v Speaker 1>you have marveled at someone who's clearly uninformed about something

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<v Speaker 1>making a statement when you have information better than what

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<v Speaker 1>you hear coming out of their mouth. And they're absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>convinced of well they're expertise, their knowledge level, their complete

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of a circumstance. I mean, I point out all

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<v Speaker 1>the time about the JFK thing. The guy that once

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, I read all the books on the case,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know the case. And then when I asked him,

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<v Speaker 1>how many is that, by the way, and he said three.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a remarkable example of someone who has convinced

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<v Speaker 1>themselves that they have a great level of expertise. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's literally part of the problem. See, if you're too

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<v Speaker 1>stupid to understand that you're ill informed, you're a also

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<v Speaker 1>too stupid to understand that your information is not absolute already.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they both walk hand in hand. The idea that

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<v Speaker 1>you think you know everything about something okay, is a

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<v Speaker 1>serious red flag that shows that you know next to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>People that actually have knowledge on something understand the limitation

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<v Speaker 1>of their knowledge. They know they have some of the knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>they know they have a great deal of the knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>They might even be aware that they're an expert, but

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that they know everything does not enter their

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<v Speaker 1>mind because they have a concept of exactly how expansive

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<v Speaker 1>the universe of information is and how they could not

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<v Speaker 1>possibly contain it all within their minds, their memories. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>your memory is subject at all times the revision. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not always good revision. Sometimes there are biases that

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<v Speaker 1>are built up that tell you that something is possible

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<v Speaker 1>or more likely because you have experienced it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not necessarily the way it is represented on mass.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's pretty simple and yet rather complex because

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<v Speaker 1>those that have expertise don't necessarily automatically, you know, possess

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<v Speaker 1>the confidence to represent that they have that expertise, and

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<v Speaker 1>even when they do, as a matter of fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>more expertise someone claims to have with absolute certainty without

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<v Speaker 1>ever entertaining a single question. When you've got a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't entertain a single question but claims to be

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<v Speaker 1>an expert, you're dealing with a dangerous individual who limited

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<v Speaker 1>their information to a certain point and didn't continue it.

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<v Speaker 1>Education is a continuous process and learning the entirety of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if it's a crack or a particular

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<v Speaker 1>body of literature or anything else. These things are not limited.

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<v Speaker 1>There is always additional information which can be gleaned. There

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<v Speaker 1>is always additional perspective that is possible. There is always

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<v Speaker 1>an experience that you have not had. So someone recognizes

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<v Speaker 1>that nuance, it usually means they are more intelligent, but

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<v Speaker 1>since they don't present themselves confidently as the end all

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<v Speaker 1>and be all expert, they're not accepted that way. And

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<v Speaker 1>the more strength behind the I know how to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the guy, I'm the man. I get it. The

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<v Speaker 1>more you hear that there is somebody focused on the

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<v Speaker 1>I who has no idea about the nuance or the

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<v Speaker 1>expansive nature of the actual circumstance, situation, problem, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the overall issue here where the bias swings

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<v Speaker 1>both ways and causes destructive results because people get behind

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<v Speaker 1>these confident people far too often, and the most confident

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<v Speaker 1>people are not necessarily those who have the knowledge, intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>or the solutions anywhere near them, because they do not

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<v Speaker 1>understand even the beginning of the landscape that they claim

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<v Speaker 1>to know entirely. Anyway, back to this explanation in the video,

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<v Speaker 1>just part of it, just part of it, And each

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<v Speaker 1>of these things are like, you know, twenty minutes long

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty five minutes long or whatever. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>playing the whole thing. I'm just playing a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>clips to give you an idea of what it is

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be considered here.

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<v Speaker 2>The people most susceptible to it are typically the least

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<v Speaker 2>likely to recognize it in themselves. The discovery of the

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<v Speaker 2>Dunning Krueger effect began with an unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>Bank robbery in nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 2>MacArthur Wheeler walked into two Pittsburgh banks and broad Daylight

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<v Speaker 2>with no disguise, robbed them, and walked out. When arrested

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<v Speaker 2>later that night, Wheeler was genuinely shocked to learn that

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance cameras had captured his image. But I wore the juice,

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<v Speaker 2>he protested to police. Wheeler had covered his face with

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<v Speaker 2>lemon juice, believing it would make him invisible to security cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>based on his understanding that lemon juice could be used

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<v Speaker 2>as invisible ink. This remarkable case caught the attention of

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<v Speaker 2>psychologists David Dunning, who was fascinated by Wheeler's profound misunderstanding

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<v Speaker 2>and complete confidence in his flawed logic. It led Dunning

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<v Speaker 2>to question, how could someone be so incompetent that they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even realize their incompetence. He partnered with then graduate

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<v Speaker 2>student Justin Krueger to investigate this phenomenon systematically. In their

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<v Speaker 2>seminal study published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology,

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<v Speaker 2>Dunning and Kruger assessed participants on humor, grammar, and logical

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<v Speaker 2>reasoning skills. After each test, participants were asked to estimate

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<v Speaker 2>how well they performed compared to others. The results were

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<v Speaker 2>striking and consistent. Those who scored in the bottom quartile

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<v Speaker 2>dramatically overestimated their performance, believing they outperformed sixty two percent

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<v Speaker 2>of their peers when they had actually only outperformed twelve percent. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>top performers consistently underestimated their relative performance. As Dounning observed,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're incompetent, you can't know you're incompetent. The skills

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<v Speaker 2>you need to produce a right answer are exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>skills you need to recognize what a right answer is.

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<v Speaker 2>This creates a double burden of incompetence. Not only do

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<v Speaker 2>people lack the skills to perform well, but they also

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<v Speaker 2>lack the metacognitive ability to recognize their deficiency. At its core,

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<v Speaker 2>the Dunning Kruger effect stems from a metacognitive deficiency of

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<v Speaker 2>failure to accurately assess one's own knowledge and skills. This

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<v Speaker 2>metacognitive blind spot creates an illusion of superiority that can

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<v Speaker 2>be remarkably resilient to evidence. The effect operates through several

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<v Speaker 2>psychological mechanisms. First is the unknown unknowns problem. When we

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<v Speaker 2>venture into unfamiliar territory, we lack awareness of the full

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<v Speaker 2>scope of knowledge or skills required. We don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I like how theknown unknowns comes up here. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing. Yet the same skills required to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you're incompetent are the same skills required to be competent.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the funny part of this. It's amazing, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it really is. If you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>those that are so convinced that they have only the

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<v Speaker 1>right answers, see, this explains certain things, doesn't it If

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it carefully, If you think about those

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<v Speaker 1>that speak with absolute certainty about how they know certain

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<v Speaker 1>things happened and everything else, and then you discover the

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<v Speaker 1>complete fallacies built into this these assertions, then you recognize

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<v Speaker 1>why it is they're so wrong. Because they don't recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that they're wrong. They don't have the skills to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that they're wrong. So therefore they don't have the skills

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize that they're wrong. It's a beautiful thing. This,

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<v Speaker 1>to me explains quite a bit why people end up

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01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:59.440
<v Speaker 1>defaulting and following individuals who just appear to be confident

838
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:05.679
<v Speaker 1>in them competence. And yet again it is exactly the

839
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:11.239
<v Speaker 1>opposite circumstance. Those who are not confident in their competence

840
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 1>are usually much more competent. I mean, it's precisely the

841
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:21.079
<v Speaker 1>the you know, black is white and up as down

842
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:25.360
<v Speaker 1>circumstance here that we find in human psychology. This is

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01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:29.000
<v Speaker 1>why we're so confounding as a species, you know, I

844
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:35.480
<v Speaker 1>mean relatively speaking. Anyway, let's go back to this explanation

845
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:39.119
<v Speaker 1>just a little more, because I'm almost done with the

846
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Mandela effect Mandela affect.

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<v Speaker 2>Presentation today, Dunning explains, the skills you need to produce

848
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.599
<v Speaker 2>the right answer are exactly the same skills you need

849
01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:59.840
<v Speaker 2>to evaluate if an answer is right. If you lack expertise,

850
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:05.239
<v Speaker 2>domain you also lack the ability to recognize expertise, including

851
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:10.199
<v Speaker 2>the absence of it in yourself. Second, is confirmation by us.

852
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Once we form a belief about our abilities, we selectively

853
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:20.159
<v Speaker 2>attend to information that supports that belief while discounting contradictory evidence.

854
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:24.280
<v Speaker 2>A novice who believes their skilled will remember their successes,

855
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 2>attribute failures to external factors, and interpret ambiguous feedback positively.

856
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Third is the difficulty in accurately calibrating self assessment. Even

857
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:40.280
<v Speaker 2>when trying to be objective, humans struggle to evaluate themselves

858
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.760
<v Speaker 2>without reference points. In the absence of clear feedback or comparison,

859
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:49.320
<v Speaker 2>we tend to rate ourselves above average, a phenomenon known

860
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:53.880
<v Speaker 2>as the above average effect or illusory superiority.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also why poor people don't always recognize is

862
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that they're poor. They always say they're middle class or

863
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:06.519
<v Speaker 1>upper middle class, and it's like, clearly they're not. It's

864
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 1>exactly that projected image of oneself. Their inability to understand

865
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:16.360
<v Speaker 1>what their actual position is, what their power to affect

866
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:21.559
<v Speaker 1>things is, what their financial status even is, which should

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01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:26.920
<v Speaker 1>be a numerically empirically understandable thing. I mean, reconcile this

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01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:29.199
<v Speaker 1>in your mind. There are many people that I know

869
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:33.960
<v Speaker 1>listen to this show that think it's absolutely insane to

870
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:37.440
<v Speaker 1>believe that we have a medium income in this country

871
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:39.199
<v Speaker 1>of like one hundred and fifty thousand or a hundred

872
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 1>and twenty thous whatever it is, one hundred and something thousand,

873
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:46.239
<v Speaker 1>that's like that should be the average. The majority of

874
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:50.239
<v Speaker 1>people well below that average do not recognize how far

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01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:54.960
<v Speaker 1>below average they are. I do, because I know I'm

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01:05:55.079 --> 01:06:02.159
<v Speaker 1>well below that. You know, I'm probably like what to

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01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess, I'm probably what less than a quarter of

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01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 1>average income wise?

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01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Right?

880
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:17.599
<v Speaker 1>I recognize that. I'm not exactly sure how to amplify that,

881
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:20.159
<v Speaker 1>because that's never been the thing I knew how to do.

882
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:24.119
<v Speaker 1>But oddly, I do recognize that other people that are

883
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:26.760
<v Speaker 1>making you know, fifty sixty thousand and seventy five, they

884
01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:33.280
<v Speaker 1>think they're doing okay. But if you're saying comparatively, you know,

885
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm of this class, then you're using a comparative measurement.

886
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:40.320
<v Speaker 1>You're measuring yourself against the standard. And like I said,

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01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:45.199
<v Speaker 1>once again, unless you're in you know, the triple figures

888
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:51.400
<v Speaker 1>of the thousand dollars annual income, you're not even close

889
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:56.639
<v Speaker 1>to average. That's the weird thing. I don't even know

890
01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:58.880
<v Speaker 1>people that are close to that average, which makes me

891
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.719
<v Speaker 1>question those numbers. And there you go. You see how

892
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the bias loop begins. I'm using myself as the example

893
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:08.840
<v Speaker 1>as best I can, but I'm sure that some people

894
01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:12.559
<v Speaker 1>can relate to this. And you know, it's no wonder

895
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that I'm struggling as I do and having difficulties when

896
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I had just the smallest amount of my income cut away,

897
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.599
<v Speaker 1>because people would think that it's a very tiny amount

898
01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of income that was cut away from me recently, But

899
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. Anyway, I just used myself

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01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:31.599
<v Speaker 1>as an example because it is the most accessible thing.

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01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:35.239
<v Speaker 1>But the truth is, I want you to consider where

902
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you fall into these paradigms. I want you to consider

903
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:43.039
<v Speaker 1>where others fall into these paradigms, so that you can

904
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:47.119
<v Speaker 1>more accurately measure what's going on around you and why

905
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:52.159
<v Speaker 1>it is that some people have the confidence in particular paradigms,

906
01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 1>in particular collective understandings, in particular groupings that people do

907
01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:02.000
<v Speaker 1>volunteer themselves too. Why is it they're doing it? And

908
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:04.800
<v Speaker 1>why is one even better than the other? And meanwhile,

909
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, there isn't us and them. There is a

910
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:13.079
<v Speaker 1>more simplified way to look at this, but most people

911
01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:17.199
<v Speaker 1>will not join the us that I think is most relevant.

912
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.039
<v Speaker 1>And again, I have a very nuanced view of this.

913
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I understand that, you know, people may have differences of

914
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:27.119
<v Speaker 1>opinion about various things, but it's not about opinion. It's

915
01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:33.279
<v Speaker 1>about how about what is best for self preservation and

916
01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:36.960
<v Speaker 1>self elevation. And you can't get people to agree on

917
01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 1>that either, even with empirical evidence in front of them

918
01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:45.119
<v Speaker 1>about what has actually worked, what was working at a

919
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:51.119
<v Speaker 1>certain time. They decide that other factors, aside from the

920
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 1>ones that you note are most relevant, are more relevant.

921
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:58.359
<v Speaker 1>And what is that about. It's about this confirmation bias,

922
01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:04.600
<v Speaker 1>this overconfidence in certain things. And we do have our

923
01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:07.640
<v Speaker 1>histories to look back on and say, you know, well,

924
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:10.640
<v Speaker 1>during this particular time of history, these were the conditions.

925
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Therefore this was the result. But people adjust the timelines

926
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and ascribe blame in different ways. So you don't even

927
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:22.720
<v Speaker 1>get a universal answer there. You don't even forget about

928
01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:26.319
<v Speaker 1>universal you don't even get a majority answer there. These

929
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:31.199
<v Speaker 1>things shift back and forth based on perceived collective grievances,

930
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:37.000
<v Speaker 1>whether they are actually relatively important or not. I may

931
01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:39.399
<v Speaker 1>have to do my news show tomorrow because this is

932
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.159
<v Speaker 1>going a little longer than I thought, but I think

933
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:46.359
<v Speaker 1>it is necessary once again to continue with this. So

934
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:52.520
<v Speaker 1>let's continue on the Dunning Krueger effect just a bit longer.

935
01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:58.399
<v Speaker 2>As philosopher Bertrand Russell aptly noted, the whole problem with

936
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the world is that food us and fanatics are always

937
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 2>so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

938
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:09.760
<v Speaker 2>This insight captures the essence of the Dunning Kruger effect.

939
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Confidence and competence are often inversely related at the extremes

940
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:19.239
<v Speaker 2>of the knowledge spectrum. While popular culture often portrays the

941
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:23.479
<v Speaker 2>Dunning Kruger effect as a simple inverse relationship between confidence

942
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:29.039
<v Speaker 2>and confidence, the actual relationship is more nuanced, rather than

943
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 2>a linear relationship. Researchers have identified a characteristic curve that

944
01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:37.920
<v Speaker 2>maps the journey from novice to expert. The journey begins

945
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:42.920
<v Speaker 2>at what some call Mount Stupid, the peak of confidence

946
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 2>experienced by absolute beginners who have gained just enough knowledge

947
01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:50.399
<v Speaker 2>to feel informed, but lack awareness of the vast terrain

948
01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:55.720
<v Speaker 2>they haven't yet explored. As Mark Twain wisely observed, it

949
01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:57.880
<v Speaker 2>ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.

950
01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:00.680
<v Speaker 2>That's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

951
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:06.319
<v Speaker 2>After this initial peak comes the Valley of despair, when

952
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:09.920
<v Speaker 2>continued learning reveals the true scope of the domain, causing

953
01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:13.880
<v Speaker 2>confidence to plummet. This is the critical juncture where many

954
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.920
<v Speaker 2>give up, unable to reconcile their self image with a

955
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:22.199
<v Speaker 2>newly discovered reality of their limitations. Those who persevere begin

956
01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the gradual climb up the slope of enlightenment.

957
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Again. Philosophy Coded is the name of the channel. I

958
01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:34.760
<v Speaker 1>want to give credit once again, and there will be

959
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:40.039
<v Speaker 1>links to the videos from which these audios were derived

960
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:45.159
<v Speaker 1>and played, And then I'm commenting on in the show notes,

961
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:50.640
<v Speaker 1>along with some other relevant articles about the creation of memory,

962
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the scientific study of it, and a little bit about

963
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the Mandila effect, which again is just the foolishness that

964
01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is part of this paradigm as well. My memory is certain.

965
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Therefore here we go. There used to be jippy peanut butter.

966
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:14.720
<v Speaker 1>There never was. I don't understand that at all. There was.

967
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 1>And the weirdest thing when I went through a whole

968
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:20.239
<v Speaker 1>bunch of these Mandela effect videos also, and just to

969
01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:22.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of do some background study before I decided to

970
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.960
<v Speaker 1>speak on this, was the fun fact that there are

971
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people out there that swear up and

972
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:31.479
<v Speaker 1>down that Governor Connolly and Nellie Connolly were never in

973
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:37.439
<v Speaker 1>the car for the JFK assassination. It's because people removed

974
01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that which was less relevant in their brains from the equation.

975
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wanted to talk about Governor Connolly and his wounds

976
01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:49.439
<v Speaker 1>until you got into nuances, until you wanted to discuss

977
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the magic bullet et cetera, et cetera. So what was

978
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:56.279
<v Speaker 1>most important and most striking. They kept the bullet points,

979
01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they kept the cliff notes, but they didn't read the

980
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:04.319
<v Speaker 1>full context. They didn't read the book. So oh, Nelly

981
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Connolly and Governor Connolly suddenly appeared out of an alternate dimension,

982
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:12.640
<v Speaker 1>which is easier for them to explain than their lack

983
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of competence in recall memory, than their lack of an

984
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:21.680
<v Speaker 1>ability to retain more facts than were relevant to the

985
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:25.600
<v Speaker 1>immediate emotional response. And therefore they swear up and down

986
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that there was nobody in the middle seats, and even

987
01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:30.720
<v Speaker 1>say that one of the cars that's displayed at one

988
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of the uh, you know, one of the what do

989
01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you call it, a duplicate cars that they display like

990
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:38.479
<v Speaker 1>the one at the Ford Museum, which is not the

991
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:41.399
<v Speaker 1>JFK car, but it's just like it, it's a you know,

992
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.880
<v Speaker 1>duplicate of it. Well, there's no middle seats there because

993
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.359
<v Speaker 1>they were jump seats. They were added. They're they're not

994
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.239
<v Speaker 1>something that's always, you know, up and ready to go.

995
01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:56.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like saying, hey, there was no top on that car.

996
01:13:56.680 --> 01:13:58.640
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't have a top that day. Well, that's because

997
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:02.039
<v Speaker 1>they don't display it with a top. It dummy. They

998
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:03.720
<v Speaker 1>could have had a top on it. There was a

999
01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:06.920
<v Speaker 1>bubble top. That wouldn't have stopped things. But again, now

1000
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:09.039
<v Speaker 1>we got to go into nuances, and it means you

1001
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:14.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't study this thing. You know. It's like people, it's

1002
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a revolutionary war seventeen seventy six, that's it. No, there's

1003
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:22.520
<v Speaker 1>more to it. And there were allies for both sides,

1004
01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:26.079
<v Speaker 1>and there was the help from a foreign entity and

1005
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:28.039
<v Speaker 1>da da da da da, And how did they pay

1006
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:33.239
<v Speaker 1>for the war? Look, you can oversimplify things and by

1007
01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the time you pare it down enough. You know, if

1008
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:39.279
<v Speaker 1>you peel a potato and then you continuously try and

1009
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.640
<v Speaker 1>peel it down to the easiest to carry potato possible,

1010
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you might end up with a French fry. But it

1011
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:47.039
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you can only get a French fry

1012
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:50.600
<v Speaker 1>from the potato. I don't know how else to explain this.

1013
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:53.479
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, this philosophy code of channel does

1014
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good job of taking us through some of

1015
01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:59.800
<v Speaker 1>these nuances. And I like this discussion of the curve

1016
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and how there is not a simple you know. And

1017
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.680
<v Speaker 1>again people go, well, if it's one, it's reaction. It's

1018
01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, the reaction is as strong as the initial event. No,

1019
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:11.600
<v Speaker 1>none of this is true. Have you ever played a

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01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:15.359
<v Speaker 1>game of pool? You know, you hit that cue ball

1021
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:18.720
<v Speaker 1>really fast and hits the other ball. There is a

1022
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:22.720
<v Speaker 1>transmission of force from one ball to the other, but

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01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:27.680
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't carry over equally. You know, use your head.

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01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 1>And yes, the geometry is there, but there's more to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's about the spin of the ball. Now,

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01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:36.479
<v Speaker 1>you can make a ball go around another ball as

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01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:38.640
<v Speaker 1>opposed to jumping over it, or you can make it

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01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:43.600
<v Speaker 1>jump over. It depends on the strike, the exactness of

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01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the strike, the effect caused on the initial ball before

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01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it ever strikes the other ball. Again, things nobody thinks

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01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:54.359
<v Speaker 1>about if they're just looking at ball, hits ball, ball

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<v Speaker 1>goes So there you go. Anyway, enough of my commentary,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of this, and then we'll close

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<v Speaker 1>this sucker out for the night, and I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a news program. Maybe I'll have to add to it,

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01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:11.079
<v Speaker 1>but I got an extensive news program already. I might

1037
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:14.039
<v Speaker 1>have to break it in two, you know, one all

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<v Speaker 1>Trump news and then everything else. I don't know something

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<v Speaker 1>like that anyways, But forget that for now. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing politics. I'm doing psychology right now and seeing if

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<v Speaker 1>people can get the various, nuanced and layered messages that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm placing in this particular podcast. I doubt it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it'll be very popular, but what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell got to give it a try, and also by request,

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<v Speaker 1>because people support me, and when they do support me,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to reward that with directly taking on subjects

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<v Speaker 1>that they want taken on. So there will be a

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<v Speaker 1>news program before we get to the Friday night call ins,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully that comes off without a hitch this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see. But let's continue with this Dunning Krueger effect.

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<v Speaker 2>Endem With dedicated practice and learning, they eventually reach the

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<v Speaker 2>plateau of sustainability where high competence is matched with appropriately

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<v Speaker 2>calibrated confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>This is along the slope of enlightenment, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>from Mount stupidity. Then you begin to climb up to

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<v Speaker 1>the slope of enlightenment, so anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>What's particularly interesting is how experts often exhibit a slight

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<v Speaker 2>under confidence relative to their actual abilities. This expert's uncertainty

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<v Speaker 2>stems from their comprehensive understanding of the complexity and nuance

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<v Speaker 2>within their field. They're acutely aware of the boundaries of

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<v Speaker 2>their knowledge and the vastness of what remains unknown. As

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<v Speaker 2>Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Feynman once said, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to

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<v Speaker 2>have answers that might be wrong. This intellectual humility is

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<v Speaker 2>a hallmark of true expertise, a far cry from the

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<v Speaker 2>over confidence of novices. While most experimental evidence for the

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<v Speaker 2>Dunning Kruger effect comes from laboratory settings and academic skills,

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<v Speaker 2>the phenomenon extends far beyond these contexts, permeating virtually every

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<v Speaker 2>domain of human endeavor. In professional settings, the effect manifests

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<v Speaker 2>as the unskilled and unaware employee who consistently overrates their

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<v Speaker 2>performance and contribution. One study found that ninety five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of managers believed they performed in the top fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of their peer group, a statistical impossibility. This inflated self

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<v Speaker 2>assessment often leads to resistance to feedback, limited professional growth,

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<v Speaker 2>and interpersonal conflicts. In healthcare, the effect can have life

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<v Speaker 2>threatening consequences. Medical students with the lowest skill levels often

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<v Speaker 2>overrate their clinical abilities, potentially leading to dangerous over confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in clinical decision making. One study found that doctors who

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<v Speaker 2>were most confident about their diagnoses were not more accurate

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<v Speaker 2>than their peers, but they were less likely to consult

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<v Speaker 2>references or seek second opinions. In politics, the effect helps

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<v Speaker 2>explain why some of the most vociferous voices on complex

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<v Speaker 2>policy issues often demonstrate the least nuanced understanding. Those with

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<v Speaker 2>rudimentary knowledge of economics, climate science, or international relations may

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<v Speaker 2>express absolute certainty in their positions, while experts in these

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<v Speaker 2>fields typically acknowledge the limitations and uncertainties inherent in their domains.
