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<v Speaker 1>Oh you is, folks, it's showtime.

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<v Speaker 2>People pay good money to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>When they go out to a theater, they want cold sodas,

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<v Speaker 3>hot popcorn, and no monsters in the protection booths.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.

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<v Speaker 4>Cut it off.

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<v Speaker 2>It was on top of ninety six, man.

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<v Speaker 5>But now I feel like we're starting to come back

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<v Speaker 5>down to the ground, reality setting in. I just don't

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<v Speaker 5>know how long we're gonna be doing it on that level.

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<v Speaker 6>We all remember the first album that we heard The

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<v Speaker 6>changed our lives, right, we have an opportunity to make

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<v Speaker 6>our version of that for someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>That means working with this guy here. I'm all in. Damn,

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<v Speaker 2>this place is creepy as fuck. As an artist, what

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<v Speaker 2>scares you? He is no Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>As you walk through those doors, you're no longer musicians.

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<v Speaker 3>You're explorers searching for the deepest, most personal entity with

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<v Speaker 3>them themselves. And if that turns into a song, that's

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<v Speaker 3>all just a bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of shit was there? It's just art, man, It's

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<v Speaker 2>not that big of a deal anyway.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, folks, welcome to a special episode of the Projection Booth.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm your host Mike White. On this episode, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 7>with Ryan Donaho and Rob Rocco all about their new film,

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<v Speaker 7>Art of a Hit. Film is now currently streaming. Definitely

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<v Speaker 7>track it down and have a good time. Thanks so

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<v Speaker 7>much for listening. I hear you're from Windsor.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob. Pay him from Windsor doing some deep dig in there. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm over here in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Detroit. It's one of my favorite cities.

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<v Speaker 7>It's great to talk with you guys. I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 7>talk to you about Art of a Hit, but I'd

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<v Speaker 7>love a little bit of background.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob.

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<v Speaker 7>Since you're on my screen first, can you tell me

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<v Speaker 7>little bit about you and how you got into acting, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, it's a great transition to this movie. I got

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<v Speaker 1>into acting maybe fifteen years ago by being a touring

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<v Speaker 1>drummer at the time coming to La to follow up

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<v Speaker 1>being a Windsor boy. Always looking at Detroit, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>the market is in America, not in Canada, and so

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<v Speaker 1>my whole transition was like how do I get the papers?

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<v Speaker 1>I came to La, my band had a couple singles

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<v Speaker 1>on local radio out here. I ended up coming alone,

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<v Speaker 1>and in that alone time, my entrepreneurial had launched where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, there's an opportunity here. I sat with some

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<v Speaker 1>people I had no interest of acting, and it fell

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<v Speaker 1>into it where I met a coach who said something

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<v Speaker 1>that stuck with me. Or he spent your entire youth

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<v Speaker 1>and early twenties creating thunder behind your drums, and now

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<v Speaker 1>it' starting to take that thunder and use it behind

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<v Speaker 1>your boys. And I'm like, oh, so it made me

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<v Speaker 1>cry for a long time and I figured it out

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<v Speaker 1>and I found a little magic in it, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is very cool. I get to storytell the same

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<v Speaker 1>way through truth and an inevitability, just using my instrument

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<v Speaker 1>as this think and I fell in love. I fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love and now to be able to mend the

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<v Speaker 1>two being like I was this musician, I am this actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what we do is a great little journey.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blessed.

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<v Speaker 7>And Ryan, how about yourself?

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<v Speaker 6>So actually through music as well, I moved to New

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<v Speaker 6>York and started playing drums on the street when I

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<v Speaker 6>was seventeen, and about three years into that, I was

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<v Speaker 6>playing buckets at astor place and my soon to be

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<v Speaker 6>manager saw me and came up to me and said

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<v Speaker 6>she was casting a Levi's ad because normally she was

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<v Speaker 6>a print casting director that was going to Morocco and

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<v Speaker 6>would I come audition? And I auditioned for it, and

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<v Speaker 6>I booked it, and I went to Morocco and I

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<v Speaker 6>came back from Morocco and she's what do you want

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<v Speaker 6>to do? And I said, I want to act, And

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<v Speaker 6>so she actually found me. Classes found me an agent

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<v Speaker 6>and then she was like, I'm normally a casting director,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think i'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to manage you. Is that okay? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, I love you. Let's do this.

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<v Speaker 6>So and I was lucky enough to book my very

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<v Speaker 6>first film audition and my very first commercial audition.

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<v Speaker 2>So my agents were, hat did.

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<v Speaker 7>You guys happen to have a drum off at any

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<v Speaker 7>point during the making?

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<v Speaker 2>He would win?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Ryan is this undeniable talent. He also knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to play buckets.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a great jam sett but he was just

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<v Speaker 6>going off on the floor and then I pulled out

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<v Speaker 6>a little bucket.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a little gam I prefer to create, not

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<v Speaker 1>to challenge. There's no sense of challenging our everyone's unique

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<v Speaker 1>so we just found each other's strengths in the room

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<v Speaker 1>and it was phenomenal. In the middle of the Patsle

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<v Speaker 1>in France.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, signed me up.

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<v Speaker 7>You were a drummer, but you're playing a guitarist. So

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<v Speaker 7>how is that for you? Were you actually playing the guitar?

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<v Speaker 7>Were you singing in this or is this somebody else

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<v Speaker 7>doing all the that lifting and you're bringing the character

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<v Speaker 7>to it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's my voice singing. We recorded all.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a lot of the actual musicians from the movie

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<v Speaker 6>are playing on the songs too. Tim Joe did a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of the guitar parts. I think Charlie did some bass.

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<v Speaker 6>I even had him do some backup vocals. I came

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<v Speaker 6>up with this backup vocal section and he was in

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<v Speaker 6>the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it was me on vocals.

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<v Speaker 6>However, I'm not playing guitar on the tracks. I did

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<v Speaker 6>learn them, so in the film it's me playing, but

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<v Speaker 6>somebody else recorded it.

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<v Speaker 2>How was that for you?

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<v Speaker 7>Because I'm sure you guys have both been an ensemble

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<v Speaker 7>cast before, but now you're in an ensemble plus a band,

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<v Speaker 7>almost a double ensembling there because you're going to be

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<v Speaker 7>playing together, but you're also acting together as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like I said, like Galen, Charlie, myself and Tim

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<v Speaker 6>Joe were all in this movie Band Slam together fifteen

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<v Speaker 6>years ago, and then after Band Slam, Tim Joe and

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<v Speaker 6>I were in the band for eight years, and then

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<v Speaker 6>Charlie and Tim Joe were in a band together for

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<v Speaker 6>I think they still play. That all felt natural and

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<v Speaker 6>already I had already had a one hundred fights with

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<v Speaker 6>Tim Joe in real life about songs that's the wrong chord,

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<v Speaker 6>we got to change to that. We've done that for real,

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<v Speaker 6>So I think it all felt really easy just to

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<v Speaker 6>slide back into those things after Tim Joe and I

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<v Speaker 6>hadn't played together maybe eight or twelve years or whatever

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<v Speaker 6>it was, But it was really easy to look at

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<v Speaker 6>it and be like, you're.

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<v Speaker 7>Fucking up, and how did this project come together? It

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<v Speaker 7>sounds like you almost had a dry run with Band Slam.

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<v Speaker 6>You're like, you want to come play the drummer and

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<v Speaker 6>do like a day player role. Come to France for

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of days. And I was like, sure, I'll

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<v Speaker 6>read the script.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me find out.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I read the script and I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>the drummer's a girl, so who am I going to play.

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<v Speaker 6>They're like, no, we want you to play the lead.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, oh, I didn't. Okay, then yes,

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<v Speaker 6>you had me at Castle in France, but yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew Ali who plays Christen in the movie Drummer.

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<v Speaker 1>We know each other from the La music scene here

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<v Speaker 1>in mutuals, and she got me a zoom with Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>and Galen and we just hit it off. And the

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<v Speaker 1>way I approach independent films is who do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go be a team with for said amount of time?

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<v Speaker 1>And those guys sold me on them. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>got the script and I'm like, oh, I get to

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<v Speaker 1>play someone well I haven't played and then you look

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<v Speaker 1>at location and you're like, oh my god, it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Your immersed in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go have some fun. And it's exactly what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was intense, long days, but we had fun. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a trust, we became a family who became a team,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what led to this project happening.

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<v Speaker 7>From my side, yeah, yeah, what was your experience like

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<v Speaker 7>on this, because I know so much of the time,

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<v Speaker 7>at least in the beginning of the movie, you are

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<v Speaker 7>talked about but not seen necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe the name Miles is mentioned more than

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<v Speaker 1>my screen time, which makes it super interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>What he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's this through story.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there for about a week and a half

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<v Speaker 1>and I had joined them after what it must have

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<v Speaker 1>been two and a half weeks of their initial shoot dates,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also intimidating. I'm like, hey, guys, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>new guy. And we sat down in a family dinner

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<v Speaker 1>thing and just became fast friends. And you know, you realize,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said strips and weaknesses and all that, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all filled it and everyone lifted a finger in

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<v Speaker 1>this film. It was as inspiring as it was to

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<v Speaker 1>be sworn into this cast, watching this crew work and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to wear as many hats as they did

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<v Speaker 1>and create this project was the utmost inspiring thing where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is what independent filmmaking is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it? So yeah, very cool.

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<v Speaker 7>Filmmaking is never easy, but independent filmmaking is way harder

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<v Speaker 7>than anything that anybody could probably possibly imagine. What was

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<v Speaker 7>that like for you guys being part of this crew

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<v Speaker 7>and being part of this experience?

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<v Speaker 6>For me, it's just it's humbling when you see, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>everyone breaking their back, Like there was not one person

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<v Speaker 6>who was slipping up, Like every single person was really

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<v Speaker 6>really breaking their back, and like you know, and like

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<v Speaker 6>like Grob said, everyone wore a bunch of hats. There

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't you know if I was a grip at one point,

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<v Speaker 6>like everybody just everyone's helping out, everyone's doing everything they can.

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<v Speaker 6>We had to do our own wardrobe on a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of it. And so we're running up and down these

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<v Speaker 6>castle stairs like three flights in between scenes so I

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<v Speaker 6>can go grab jackets and do whatever. So I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's the thing we hated the most at the end

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<v Speaker 6>of the day was the stairs. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>stairs a thousand year old castle, you also get thousand

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<v Speaker 6>year old gold, so we all had what we dubbed

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<v Speaker 6>as castle cough. So that's the thing, that's the real thing.

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<v Speaker 6>But no, yeah, it's just humbling, man, to see just

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<v Speaker 6>everyone picking up the slack where it needed to be

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<v Speaker 6>picked up.

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<v Speaker 7>Did you actually live in the castle or was there

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<v Speaker 7>another place to stay at?

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<v Speaker 2>Now we lived in the castle.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember flying in and being like, oh, we get

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<v Speaker 1>to stay here. They've already been there for a couples

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<v Speaker 1>I get to stay here. I'm hearing stories about this

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<v Speaker 1>place and trying to navigate, and then you realize when

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<v Speaker 1>lights are out, whatever that is four am when you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>Call it's four am in the middle of nowhere at France,

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<v Speaker 1>in a castle that's a thousand years old. You get

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<v Speaker 1>thousand year old creak cracks, maybe some hauntings. You get

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<v Speaker 1>all of it, and you're like, oh my god, we're

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<v Speaker 1>fully immersed in this film, like true method musician actor.

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<v Speaker 2>The hats on. This is great.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my room in the film was my room the

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<v Speaker 6>whole time I was staying there, So whenever we shot

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<v Speaker 6>in that room I just had to like move all

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<v Speaker 6>my backs to the side or put away the wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I was really at the very top of

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<v Speaker 6>the castle and his room was right next door Tomorro

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<v Speaker 6>and so yeah, it was cool.

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<v Speaker 7>Have you had a chance to see this with an

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<v Speaker 7>audience yet?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I saw it with one person, So no, tonight

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<v Speaker 6>will be the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well watching my face on the screen with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so embarrassing. But I will say this, I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see it tonight with everyone looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>incredible job Rian did on carrying this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be involved.

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<v Speaker 7>Before we wrap. I have to ask about the picture

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<v Speaker 7>buying you because it looks like her hometown's here with

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<v Speaker 7>the Robin me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is actually this is not even my house,

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<v Speaker 6>by friend Ariel, who shout out to Ariel Vida. She's

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<v Speaker 6>a director and she actually really helped out on this film.

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<v Speaker 6>The big jackets that I wear.

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<v Speaker 2>She found them.

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<v Speaker 6>We were looking for him up until I flew out

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<v Speaker 6>the France and we were like dying to find this.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted this like iconic Perry Farrell nineties jacket and

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<v Speaker 6>we couldn't find it. And Ariel found one on Facebook

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<v Speaker 6>marketplace and then found another one and drove to meet

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<v Speaker 6>somebody and shipped it to us in France, and luckily

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<v Speaker 6>it got there because we were I was dying to

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<v Speaker 6>find that jacket. Yeah, this is her place, but we

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<v Speaker 6>were actually going to do a movie together on a boat,

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<v Speaker 6>and so she has a lot of Oracle things themed

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<v Speaker 6>things up on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Lake Michigan. I can see it from here and

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<v Speaker 1>she's from Michigan. That makes sense there you.

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<v Speaker 7>Go, Yeah, I'll look it up. Y Ryan and Rob,

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<v Speaker 7>thank you so much for your time. This was a

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<v Speaker 7>real pleasure talking with you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a pleasure, Thank you man, talking to you Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, the premiere, I get to show you.

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<v Speaker 1>It is my daily hat Ah nice windsor Detroit Freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>best man that brings us together.

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<v Speaker 4>Sir, there's only two songs in me, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>wrote the third. Don't know where I got the inspiration

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<v Speaker 4>or how I wrote the words spend my whole life

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<v Speaker 4>just digging up my music shallow for the two songs

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<v Speaker 4>in me and the third one I just made. A

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<v Speaker 4>rich man wants to me lives a funny thing. A

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<v Speaker 4>poor man wants to me that I can't afford to speak.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm in the middle, like a bird without me

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<v Speaker 4>because there's just two songs in me, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>wrote the third. Don't know where I got the inspiration

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<v Speaker 4>or how I wrote the words spend my whole life

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<v Speaker 4>just digging up mimy is shallow before the two songs

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<v Speaker 4>hit me and the third one I just made. So

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<v Speaker 4>I went to the President and I sold what's his name?

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<v Speaker 4>Has he ever gotten writer's block or something like the same.

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<v Speaker 4>He just started talking like he was on TV. If

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<v Speaker 4>there's just two songs in you, boy, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>want from me? So I bought myself some ten pats

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<v Speaker 4>in a silver guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm allowed it to ladies. He'll still have to

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<v Speaker 1>call me sir.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to keep my self respect. I'll never be

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<v Speaker 4>a star since there's just two songs hit me and

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<v Speaker 4>this is number