Speaker 1: This is the seventy seven w ABC Mini Cast. Well, hello,
Speaker 1: and I just want to kick things off here before
Speaker 1: we get to our wonderful guest, Joel Gilbert. David Jolly
Speaker 1: is a ex Republican congressman. I got booted from the
Speaker 1: well he left. He had a defect from Congress from
Speaker 1: the Republican Party. Nobody liked him. And he is a liberal.
Speaker 1: He's a far left liberal. He's running for governor in Florida.
Speaker 1: A total waste of time. He's going to lose so badly.
Speaker 1: But I never realized, you know, I just see him
Speaker 1: as a schmuck on MSNBC. Listen to you think this
Speaker 1: is going to play in Florida. Check this out Byron
Speaker 1: Donald's put it out. Go ahead. I'm David Jolly, and
Speaker 1: I approved this message because I'm I want you to
Speaker 1: hear straight from me where I stand now, Mother of God,
Speaker 1: come on, all right, all right, the lawyer's got involved.
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand. We have a prohibition about certain
Speaker 1: TV commercials and that kind of thing, because, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, if you run a commercial, then you got
Speaker 1: to get the other campaign and you got to run
Speaker 1: one of their commercials, and on and on and on
Speaker 1: and on and on. So we'll leave it at that
Speaker 1: for now. But David Jolly has said a lot of
Speaker 1: reprehensible things over the years, and we can find all
Speaker 1: that footage outside the outside the environment of a commercial
Speaker 1: and and let it loose, okay, because I want to
Speaker 1: know is what's on his mind and what he would
Speaker 1: do to Florida. He would destroy it and he would
Speaker 1: destroy it. And I love Florida, all right. Who remembers
Speaker 1: Ahmad Aubrey vaguely something? Georgia guy running through a neighborhood.
Speaker 1: I vaguely, vaguely, vaguely remember. Now, those involved in the
Speaker 1: case can never ever ever forget. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: about this case that is unknown and totally misunderstood. The
Speaker 1: things that are known, you know, like the Derek Chauvin matter. Everything,
Speaker 1: everything about that case was reported incorrectly, and now we're
Speaker 1: getting all the truth. So Travis, let's see here, Travis McMichael,
Speaker 1: I want to bring in Joel Gilbert right now, a'mat
Speaker 1: Aubrey I kind of remember it. Georgia guy running through
Speaker 1: the neighborhood and some guys were convicted of murdering him. Joel,
Speaker 1: what's the real story. Aubrey set it up for us.
Speaker 2: How are you. First of all, hey, good to be back.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Greg, a great job covering Choven last night
Speaker 2: on your TV show. And this is kind of a
Speaker 2: forgotten case because it happened about the same time and
Speaker 2: we had the same kind of woke justice system came
Speaker 2: after the McMichaels. And to remind people of the story,
Speaker 2: Travis McMichael and his father, his father's retired police officer.
Speaker 2: They're sitting in their house and their neighborhood had been
Speaker 2: burglarized several times and they had the guy on video.
Speaker 2: They'd seen a video of him, of this black kid
Speaker 2: named Ahmed Arbury, and his father recognizes Arbury running by
Speaker 2: their house and he says to Travis, hey, that's the
Speaker 2: guy from the video that robbed the house, and let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's go call cops and let's keep our eyes on him.
Speaker 2: So they call the cops and they follow him around
Speaker 2: in their car and they say, hey, the cops are coming,
Speaker 2: just please stop wait for them. They want to talk
Speaker 2: to you. Arbury walks away, so they stop their truck
Speaker 2: and they kind of give up and they figure the
Speaker 2: cops will catch him when they get there. Arbury approaches
Speaker 2: the truck and Travis has a rifle with him pointed
Speaker 2: at the ground, and Travis raises the rifle so that
Speaker 2: Arbury won't approach. He learned and when he was in
Speaker 2: the when he was in the Coastguard, that's how you
Speaker 2: de escalate. Soury's starts to walk away, and then Arbury
Speaker 2: all of a sudden runs around the truck, attacks McMichael
Speaker 2: starts smashing him in the face, tries to grab his gun.
Speaker 2: They fight over the gun and a struggle for survival.
Speaker 2: Travis pulls the trigger three times to save the life
Speaker 2: of him and his father. So the case goes nowhere
Speaker 2: because the local DA says it's self defense, similar to
Speaker 2: the Zimmerman case, and then the woke justice people get involved.
Speaker 2: Cromp and Sharpton, they come down and there's actually a
Speaker 2: video that shows exactly what I just described. And despite that,
Speaker 2: the State of Georgia then takes over the case, the
Speaker 2: Georgia Bureau of Investigation. They arrest the McMichaels and they
Speaker 2: hold a sham trial with Crump and Sharpton and Jesse Jackson,
Speaker 2: and the protests are similar to what happened in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: and sure enough, the woke judge, who was born in
Speaker 2: South Africa actually didn't want people to know that and
Speaker 2: be accused of racism, so he doesn't allow McMichael to
Speaker 2: present the fact that Arbury was a schizophrenic. He wasn't
Speaker 2: taking his medicine. His mother had called the cops in
Speaker 2: a multiple times he was out on probation, and they
Speaker 2: actually had him on video again robbing that other house.
Speaker 2: So but they get convicted because the jury is terrified
Speaker 2: of the of the lynch mob outside, similar to the
Speaker 2: Chobren trial. Jury, they know that they're in big trouble
Speaker 2: if they vote not guilty, so they figure, well, let's
Speaker 2: just let the let the you know, appeals court handle it.
Speaker 2: And the McMichaels of him and his father are in
Speaker 2: jail for life for a self defense shooting. So I've
Speaker 2: written about it, and the case is now before the
Speaker 2: Georgia Supreme Court and it may get overturned this year.
Speaker 2: But he's been in solitary confinement for five years. Travis,
Speaker 2: I think for a simple self defense shooting. Because of
Speaker 2: his skin color, well.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, you know. I vaguely remember and I remember
Speaker 1: the T shirt he had a white T shirt on,
Speaker 1: and they try to say he was jogging through the neighborhood. Now,
Speaker 1: I've been a runner at times in my life. That's
Speaker 1: just not to get up you wear when you're jogging
Speaker 1: for exercise. It's just it's not so I knew that
Speaker 1: was kind of wrong. But was he actually did they
Speaker 1: figure out he was a burglar? He actually robbed Holmes, Yeah, homes.
Speaker 2: Well, they already had him on tape from burglarizing this
Speaker 2: home previously, and that's how they recognized him. And the
Speaker 2: prosecution's case was, oh, you guys followed him only because
Speaker 2: he was black, and you tried to arrest him, and
Speaker 2: the citizen's arrest law says you can't try to arrest
Speaker 2: someone based on their skin color, and you didn't know
Speaker 2: about the robbery. Sure enough, they looked at the tape
Speaker 2: again from that day. The guy had videotape in his
Speaker 2: in his house, Arbury was in the house again trying
Speaker 2: to rob the house. So they were right he was
Speaker 2: the robber. But in fact, Travis and his father never
Speaker 2: tried to arrest arbery. They never told him put your
Speaker 2: hands up, you know, sit down, lie down, you're never
Speaker 2: told him he's under arrest. They simply talked to him
Speaker 2: and said, hey, the cops are coming. Please wait. They
Speaker 2: never even tried to arrest him, but they got a
Speaker 2: conviction for life in prison simply based on skin color.
Speaker 2: That's all it was. And it's a terrible injustice, just
Speaker 2: like the Chovin case.
Speaker 1: Now, let me just ask you this because that sounds
Speaker 1: and I know you're summarizing, but hey, the cops are coming.
Speaker 1: Please wait. Now, what would be the purpose of telling
Speaker 1: him that? I mean, like, what do you know anything
Speaker 1: more about the conversation that Michael had with this with Aubrey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well documented. While they were approaching him. They
Speaker 2: approached him five times, and each time they approached him
Speaker 2: in their car, he walked away and he didn't listen
Speaker 2: to them. They had called the cops, and they wanted
Speaker 2: the cops to talk to him because he'd been identified
Speaker 2: previously on video robbing this house. So that's what they
Speaker 2: We're just trying to convince him to keep eyes on him,
Speaker 2: similar to what Zimmerman did in the Trayvon Martin case.
Speaker 2: He was trying to keep eyes on Trayvon because he'd
Speaker 2: already called the cops and wanted to make sure they
Speaker 2: could locate him. That was the extent of it. And
Speaker 2: then Arbury, who was you know, mentally had major issues
Speaker 2: that were not allowed to be brought into evidence in
Speaker 2: the trial. He attacks Travis and tries to take his gun,
Speaker 2: smashes him in the face, and there was a very
Speaker 2: extensive investigation. The local DA said this is self defense,
Speaker 2: see you later, no case. And only when the media
Speaker 2: mob and the woke justice warriors got into it, that's
Speaker 2: when the State of Georgia was pressured into arresting him,
Speaker 2: just like Pam Bondi, who was the Attorney General in Florida,
Speaker 2: was pressured into arresting Zimmerman for a self defense case.
Speaker 1: This is wild, man o man o man. And I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I missed all of this when it went down.
Speaker 1: I just remember the video. I remember the kind of
Speaker 1: the atmosphere around it. You know, Oh, they got him,
Speaker 1: you know it. Forgive me, but it kind of rang
Speaker 1: true when I heard it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so look what there's the court has to focus
Speaker 1: on something technical, you know what I mean. Sometimes actual
Speaker 1: innocence isn't enough to get a verdict thrown out. What
Speaker 1: does the appeal what are they pursuing regarding the appeal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the appeals coming up in the Georgia Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: By the way, you can go to mcmichaeltrial dot com.
Speaker 2: McMichael trial dot com has everything, and they're pointing out
Speaker 2: that Number one, the judge would not let them bring
Speaker 2: into evidence that Arbury was a serious, seriously mentally ill.
Speaker 2: He attacks someone holding a gun, that's a suicidal attack.
Speaker 2: Who would do that? Trayvon Martin did not know that
Speaker 2: Zimmerman had a gun in this case. He saw he
Speaker 2: had a gun, and he still try to attacks him.
Speaker 2: So they couldn't bring in the evidence of the mental illness.
Speaker 2: They were not allowed to argue that they never tried
Speaker 2: to arrest him. And that was the entire prosecution case,
Speaker 2: was that you can't make a citizen's arrest unless you
Speaker 2: had witnessed the robbery yourself. And in fact, the judge
Speaker 2: butchered the jury instructions. He completely misrepresented the statutes about
Speaker 2: the citizens arrest laws. Right after this case took place,
Speaker 2: the state of Georgia actually changed the citizens arrest laws
Speaker 2: because they knew the case was so weak. And interestingly,
Speaker 2: the judge actually just quit his judgeship just last week.
Speaker 2: I think because he knew this case was going before
Speaker 2: the Georgia Supreme Court. So there's several strong grounds for
Speaker 2: overturning it and having a new trial.