Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: You might have heard Steve Gregory's report about the pending
Speaker 2: litigation against Sean P. Diddy Combs. He left out one
Speaker 2: important fact. He left out the part where I have
Speaker 2: been trying to tell you. Tawala's been trying to tell
Speaker 2: you that this was going to happen, that more people
Speaker 2: were going to be coming forward, And now more than
Speaker 2: a hundred victims or ledged victims have come forward, kind
Speaker 2: of just validating what we said that there were other
Speaker 2: people that are out there who are going to now
Speaker 2: tell their stories and then of course the judicial system
Speaker 2: will decide whether those.
Speaker 3: Claims have merit.
Speaker 2: But we were trying to tell you this was what
Speaker 2: was going to happen next and whether Sean P. Diddy Combs,
Speaker 2: whether he was innocent of everything. He would have to
Speaker 2: be innocent of everything, every single claim, every portion of
Speaker 2: every claim for him to actually be innocent.
Speaker 4: Disturbing new allegations of sexual misconduct against Shandy Combs, some
Speaker 4: of them involving children as young as nine years old.
Speaker 3: Nine years old.
Speaker 2: We tried to tell you, We tried to tell you
Speaker 2: that this was not about just freak off. This was
Speaker 2: not about six parties and after a concert or something
Speaker 2: at Diddy's mansion.
Speaker 3: It was something much more sinister, all the way criminal.
Speaker 4: Disturbing new allegations of sexual misconduct against Shan Didy Combs,
Speaker 4: some of them involving children as young as nine years old.
Speaker 4: A Houston attorney representing one hundred and twenty accusers says
Speaker 4: he expects lawsuits will be foullowed in the next month.
Speaker 4: Tony Buzby described the victims as sixty males and sixty females,
Speaker 4: including twenty five who were miners at the time of
Speaker 4: the alleged mist conduct. The attorney alleges the music mogul
Speaker 4: sexually abused a nine year old boy at an audition
Speaker 4: at Comb's Bad Boy Records in New York City. Busby
Speaker 4: says a fifteen year old was drugged at a party
Speaker 4: and in front of Combs was raped by other individuals.
Speaker 4: An attorney for Combs calls the allegations meritless and says
Speaker 4: the rapper denies any claims that he sexually abused anyone,
Speaker 4: including my nurse.
Speaker 2: Tried to tell you Tony Busby as reference in that story,
Speaker 2: had this to say, the biggest secret.
Speaker 5: In the entertainment industry that really wasn't a secret at all,
Speaker 5: has finally been.
Speaker 3: Revealed to the world.
Speaker 5: The wall of silence has now been broken and victims
Speaker 5: are coming forward. Our team has had at this point
Speaker 5: more than three thousand and two hundred and eighty five
Speaker 5: individuals contact us with people claiming people claiming.
Speaker 6: To have been victimized by Sean Combs.
Speaker 5: After vetting, we now represent one hundred and twenty individuals
Speaker 5: who intend to bring civil claims in civil court against
Speaker 5: Sean Diddy Combs. You should know in this group it
Speaker 5: is evenly divided between males and females. There's sixty males
Speaker 5: and sixty females who have joined us US to pursue
Speaker 5: these claims. As plainish, the victims are from more than
Speaker 5: twenty five states.
Speaker 6: Majority are from California, New York, Georgia, and Florida. When
Speaker 6: you talk about the ages and the victims from its
Speaker 6: conduct occurred, it's shocking. Her youngest victim at the time
Speaker 6: of the occurrence was nine years old. We have an
Speaker 6: individual who was fourteen years old, We have one who
Speaker 6: was fifteen. Twenty five of one hundred and twenty individuals
Speaker 6: who are plaintiffs in these cases were reminders at the
Speaker 6: time of the acts complained of them.
Speaker 2: We tried to tell you that there would be more
Speaker 2: and this was not unknown. People keep saying this was
Speaker 2: not unknown, And then the response has always been, well,
Speaker 2: why didn't they come forward sooner? Why didn't they say
Speaker 2: something then? Because there was a threat of violence, There
Speaker 2: was a real possibility that not only would they be harmed,
Speaker 2: but they would be killed and their family members would
Speaker 2: be harmed. It wasn't about worrying about, you know, what
Speaker 2: would happen to their career, someone trying to ruin their career,
Speaker 2: which was often what was said when we talked about
Speaker 2: me too. Through the lens of television and movies, Harvey Weinstein,
Speaker 2: he could ruin somebody's career. No one was talking about
Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein dangling someone off a balcony or beating them
Speaker 2: up in their office and hitting them over the head
Speaker 2: with a telephone. No one was talking about the possibility
Speaker 2: of Harvey Weinstein, for example, blowing up somebody's car because
Speaker 2: they dated Cassie for a moment. It's all together different
Speaker 2: when you have someone who's so very powerful. And again
Speaker 2: this was pre social media, for the most part, there
Speaker 2: was no way to get out your story in any
Speaker 2: meaningful way. No one was just going to take your
Speaker 2: word for it and then run with that story. The
Speaker 2: whole world has changed in a media sense. The reason
Speaker 2: why the music Me Too took longer, and have to
Speaker 2: say this again is because the stakes were higher, The
Speaker 2: danger was more pernicious, the danger was more serious. Lives
Speaker 2: were impacted, lives could have been ended, and I'm quite
Speaker 2: sure all of these individuals were threatened at some point.
Speaker 2: And until we deal with that, you're not going to
Speaker 2: understand the difference or the reasons why one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty people are coming forward now as opposed to nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety nine because it was under the threat of actual
Speaker 2: physical violence.
Speaker 7: I know, it's interesting that there are individuals who and
Speaker 7: I don't know if they've reached out to you, Mooh,
Speaker 7: but individuals who have reached out me to me through
Speaker 7: DMS and said, like, you know, while you were in
Speaker 7: the industry, how come you didn't speak out? And I
Speaker 7: would just say for myself, I, as a consenting adult,
Speaker 7: chose not to go to any after hour. I went
Speaker 7: to one mansion party just thinking at that time like,
Speaker 7: oh man, y'all's invited to this mansion party, bunch of rappers.
Speaker 3: I want to go check it out.
Speaker 7: After I saw what was happening, and at the time,
Speaker 7: what was offered to me as the party was winding down,
Speaker 7: like hey man, you want to take your pick here,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, nah, I'm going home. After that, I
Speaker 7: said to myself, you know what, I have sense enough
Speaker 7: for myself to say, I don't want to be a
Speaker 7: part of this all of the music industry, you know, conventions.
Speaker 7: I had sense enough to say, you know what, I'm
Speaker 7: going to leave this bar now because I know where
Speaker 7: this is going. But the lore and the attraction of
Speaker 7: the music industry, of the and there's lots of times
Speaker 7: this is the victims are individuals who want to be
Speaker 7: a part of and are looking at these big, heavyweight
Speaker 7: music moguls and entertainers, singers, rappers, producers and the like
Speaker 7: as being a way for them to become famous, and
Speaker 7: they're willing to do whatever it takes. And unfortunately that's
Speaker 7: the lore and the draw of being in entertainment, and
Speaker 7: what happens is they're victimized to a point that they
Speaker 7: could not even understand what was happening at the time,
Speaker 7: and this is what happens when they Just imagine you're
Speaker 7: nine years old and you are a this is all alleged,
Speaker 7: but at nine years old, just imagine going and meeting
Speaker 7: a music icon only to be sexually assaulted.
Speaker 2: And how do you process being sexually assaulted at nine
Speaker 2: years old? How do you communicate that to someone an adult,
Speaker 2: that X, Y or Z happened to you. And a
Speaker 2: common story that I would here is you have someone,
Speaker 2: let's say, who's nineteen twenty years old of age, an adult,
Speaker 2: and they meet someone the power of Puff Daddy at
Speaker 2: the time or p Diddy, someone who could make or
Speaker 2: break your careers, like you want to be in that
Speaker 2: person's presence. You want to do it. It's like Puffy's
Speaker 2: taken interest in me. He wants me to come hang
Speaker 2: out with him at his party at his house. And
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, Oh, it's not what you
Speaker 2: thought was going to be. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: and I do meet. All of a sudden, you realize
Speaker 2: that you've been drugged and things have.
Speaker 3: Happened to you. But who do you tell? Who's going
Speaker 3: to believe you? Now? To answer your questions talk, and
Speaker 3: I keep trying to remind people.
Speaker 2: I did what I could where I was, what I
Speaker 2: saw and could validate and verify. At the Grammys, the
Speaker 2: National Academy Recording, Arts and Sciences, I spoke out, I
Speaker 2: spoke to the LA Times. When it came to the
Speaker 2: books of the Grammys, I spoke to the FBI. I
Speaker 2: did what I could with what I had right where
Speaker 2: I was a lot of things that I saw in
Speaker 2: the music business. And I said this last night. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the music companies were just this side
Speaker 2: of the trade, and these are real killers, real killers.
Speaker 2: And it's not enough for me to say, hey, I
Speaker 2: think something happened to so and so.
Speaker 3: You're asking what I did.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that you would have done differently, because
Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I've had a gun put
Speaker 2: in my face, I've had my life threatened. And unless
Speaker 2: you are ready to actually confront that or deal with
Speaker 2: the reality of that. When we were talking about this
Speaker 2: last night, it was a common experience where you go
Speaker 2: to a recording studio or a record label and their
Speaker 2: guns everywhere. We had armed security twenty four to seven
Speaker 2: y because someone may come in and shoot up the
Speaker 2: place and are you saying are you actually going to
Speaker 2: really ask me? Or twalla, well, what did you do?
Speaker 2: Why did you do more? F oh fo capital h.
Speaker 7: I remember all of the condemnation I received when my
Speaker 7: station was leading the charge and trying to bring light
Speaker 7: to the charges that were levied against R. Kelly at
Speaker 7: the time, and at this time these were just allegations.
Speaker 7: There were no actual trench just allegations of what had happened,
Speaker 7: and us having individuals on the air, our Afternoon Drive personality,
Speaker 7: myself making a decision to back off of the music.
Speaker 7: These were things that at the time they said, you
Speaker 7: are literally throwing your career away for taking this stance
Speaker 7: on not supporting R Kelly at the height of his career,
Speaker 7: because this is what he was. I can fly R Kelly.
Speaker 2: I remember I had a column with euur web dot
Speaker 2: com and I was one of the lone voices, the
Speaker 2: lone voices who wrote out and wrote and spoke out
Speaker 2: against R. Kelly in his first child pornography case. And
Speaker 2: I caught a lot of hells like how dare you
Speaker 2: she was of age, she knew what she was doing.
Speaker 2: Victim blaming when it was not This was ten years
Speaker 2: pre Me Too movement. Okay, whatever that first case was,
Speaker 2: and I was one of the lone voices come him.
Speaker 2: Articles are still out there, and I caught hell for it,
Speaker 2: and so I really bristled when people say, why didn't
Speaker 2: you do more?
Speaker 3: No, I was the one doing more.
Speaker 2: You're one of the people who either weren't paying attention
Speaker 2: or didn't believe us. And then when we were trying
Speaker 2: to let you know this was going on, I have
Speaker 2: the receipts to prove it. So anyone wants to ask
Speaker 2: me what I didn't do more, you obviously weren't paying
Speaker 2: attention to let me just say one more time. Foh
Speaker 2: are y'all? Foh go ahead? Mark asked me what that means.
Speaker 2: I have some ideas. I have the concepts of an idea.
Speaker 2: It's Later with mo Kelly Camfie AO six forty. We're
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2: And as we talk about these streaming platforms, the different
Speaker 2: ones from Max to Amazon Prime to Disney Plus to
Speaker 2: Peacock Paramount, doesn't matter. There is one basic idea that
Speaker 2: I think we should all agree upon we keep the
Speaker 2: streaming services that we find value in.
Speaker 3: It's real simple.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pay five ninety nine nine ninety
Speaker 2: nine twenty nine ninety nine for something that doesn't have
Speaker 2: any value, or I'm not going to pay the twenty
Speaker 2: nine ninety nine if I don't think that there is
Speaker 2: an equal amount of value in programming.
Speaker 3: Can we agree on that? Good? Okay, let's move forward.
Speaker 2: So when I see that CNN dot com is offering
Speaker 2: once again, because they've tried this before, subscription plans premium content.
Speaker 2: It ranges from two ninety nine a month to twenty
Speaker 2: nine ninety nine a year, and you would some people
Speaker 2: may argue, I'm sure Warner Brothers Discovery would argue, two
Speaker 2: ninety nine a month is not that much.
Speaker 3: No, it isn't.
Speaker 2: You should be able to afford two ninety nine a month.
Speaker 2: Yes I can, But do I want to spend three
Speaker 2: dollars a month on something, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 2: which doesn't offer any value? And when we talk about
Speaker 2: streaming platforms, it has to offer something that you want
Speaker 2: and that you can't have normally and justifies you paying
Speaker 2: money for it. Now we know that CNN is the
Speaker 2: lowest rated cable news network, So right there, the demand
Speaker 2: for the free programming is the lowest of the major
Speaker 2: cable networks. And now you want to say that's okay,
Speaker 2: we can go lower. We're going to ask you for
Speaker 2: money for content that you've already let us know over
Speaker 2: many years now that it's not something that you want
Speaker 2: even for free. We're going to ask you for money
Speaker 2: for something that you don't even want to see consistently
Speaker 2: for free.
Speaker 3: This is what CNN had to say. Quote.
Speaker 2: The hope is that these are our first, very early
Speaker 2: steps to building a direct to consumer business, and that's
Speaker 2: Alex McCallum, executive vice president of Digital Products and Services
Speaker 2: for CNN Worldwide. We want this to be a very
Speaker 2: robust business line that complements the affiliate revenue we have
Speaker 2: and our advertising revenue to be fair. And I say
Speaker 2: this as someone who's done at least one hundred CNN
Speaker 2: hits no exaggeration, so I kind of know how it
Speaker 2: goes on behind the scenes. To some level, CNN is
Speaker 2: not just what you see here. That's the domestic channel.
Speaker 2: When you turn on your cable news and you see CNN,
Speaker 2: that's called CNN Domestic, but if you've ever been at
Speaker 2: an airport around the country or around the world, you're
Speaker 2: most likely watching CNN International. If you watch the domestic
Speaker 2: channel after midnight West Coast time, it usually switches over
Speaker 2: to the CNN International feed. It's less opinion and editorial
Speaker 2: and more straight news. And CNN does have bureaus around
Speaker 2: the world, unlike Fox News which does not, and unlike
Speaker 2: NBC News which has bureaus, but it's not cable focused.
Speaker 2: CNN has content creating sources all around the world.
Speaker 3: So there is.
Speaker 2: Something theoretically which could be offered of value. But right
Speaker 2: now in America they are focusing obviously on CNN Domestic,
Speaker 2: and CNN Domestic has already tried.
Speaker 3: I think it was Mark what was it called CNN
Speaker 3: Plus or something like that.
Speaker 8: It was CNN Plus and it lasted exactly one month
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty two, from March twenty ninth to April
Speaker 8: twenty eighth, and even then.
Speaker 3: They had the news of bring it Over Chris Wallace.
Speaker 2: There was new content which they were offering as a
Speaker 2: carrot for people to sign up. But this what I'm seeing,
Speaker 2: there's not anything that they can even point to to say, Hey,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be getting this and this and that and
Speaker 2: this exclusive that, and we know you want that, but
Speaker 2: we're gonna make you paying for that. They can't even
Speaker 2: make the honest argument that this two ninety nine a
Speaker 2: month is justified.
Speaker 8: Maybe that's where you get the fact checking. You have
Speaker 8: to pature for that. Oh we all want that. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Now, according to CNN, CNN dot Com already has a
Speaker 2: robust user base that executives hope can be converted over time.
Speaker 3: Quote, we have this massive audience.
Speaker 2: Over one hundred and fifty million every month, and millions
Speaker 2: and millions of people come to us through CNN dot
Speaker 2: com many times a week, if not many times a day.
Speaker 2: The idea here is to take a product that already
Speaker 2: exists and add some more bottom to it. Well, you
Speaker 2: can't add more bottom if you're already the bottom. What
Speaker 2: does that mean add more bottom to it? It doesn't,
Speaker 2: it does, It defies, It defies logic. Now, I understand
Speaker 2: your job as a media company, especially if you're in
Speaker 2: digital marketing, is to create some sort of revenue stream.
Speaker 2: Any type of money that they can get for this,
Speaker 2: I would say, is basically free money because it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like they're really putting out any money for new content.
Speaker 2: It's not like they're hiring new hosts. It's not like
Speaker 2: they're creating new shows like they did try with CNN Plus.
Speaker 2: It seems like they're just giving you added content, maybe
Speaker 2: behind the scenes content, maybe some video podcasts or some
Speaker 2: of the hosts, you know what I mean, Just kind
Speaker 2: of adding nibbling around the edges, but not doing anything
Speaker 2: extravagant or anything really special to justify you coming out
Speaker 2: of the pocket for two ninety nine to twenty ninety nine,
Speaker 2: two ninety nine a month or twenty nine ninety nine
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 3: And I get it.
Speaker 2: They're gonna make the argument, it's like, it's only two
Speaker 2: ninety nine. It's not that much. We all can afford
Speaker 2: two ninety nine a month. It's it's less than a
Speaker 2: Starbucks a cup of coffee, which it is. But I
Speaker 2: don't drink Starbucks and I and I'm very specific about
Speaker 2: where I spend my money. There's certain streaming platforms I
Speaker 2: don't have anymore. Why because there's no value in it
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: Either.
Speaker 2: I can get the content elsewhere, like on TV, like
Speaker 2: on Plex TV or some other platform which streams for free,
Speaker 2: or I can do without it all together, and unless
Speaker 2: CNN can demonstrate that there's a demand, I'll put it
Speaker 2: in other terms, Fox News, even though it's the number
Speaker 2: one rated cable news network by a lot for a
Speaker 2: long time, Fox Nation has never taken off, and that
Speaker 2: had different hosts, It had added programming, but people were
Speaker 2: not interested in that extra monetary layout for Fox esque
Speaker 2: sounding content which was inferior to the main channel. Fox
Speaker 2: Nation was not special and it has not done well.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's even still around anymore that platform.
Speaker 2: I have to look it up. But if Fox Nation
Speaker 2: can't do it, why in the hell would CNN Plus
Speaker 2: the second Goal Round be anything.
Speaker 8: They really bet a lot on people being lured by
Speaker 8: the charisma and magnetism of Chris Wallace to CNN Plus,
Speaker 8: did they?
Speaker 3: He was supposed to be the basically the anchor for
Speaker 3: the whole platform.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't have any problem with him, but I
Speaker 8: sure wouldn't roll the dice on him to that degree.
Speaker 2: And since that was unsuccessful, and I would not blame
Speaker 2: Chris Wallace, I believe the whole rollout was flawed and
Speaker 2: faulty because I thought originally he was supposed to be
Speaker 2: on the broadcast network and all of a sudden he
Speaker 2: ended up on the digital platform.
Speaker 3: But if that didn't work, why would this work.
Speaker 2: And I know you have to generate revenue somehow, some way,
Speaker 2: but this seems like a failed proposition out the gate.
Speaker 2: If you're going to announce this, at least announce it
Speaker 2: with something that people might be interested in. It can't
Speaker 2: even tell me anything that I'm getting, which is supposed
Speaker 2: to be over and above better than new fangled anything.
Speaker 3: Connected to it.
Speaker 2: There's nothing new except you'll be able to get all
Speaker 2: of CNN's regularly scheduled content on the streaming site, plus
Speaker 2: some added extras.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you know what.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the offer, but I'll pass, and I
Speaker 2: think most people will pass.
Speaker 3: You're not going to get Mark Ronner's money.
Speaker 8: It seems to feel like I'm terribly cheap, especially when
Speaker 8: it comes to news product. They struggle to fill their
Speaker 8: schedule as it is. They're running recycled Bill Maher. They're
Speaker 8: recycling a show called The News Show, the comedy news
Speaker 8: Show from Britain. I forget the name of it, but
Speaker 8: with American stars in it. They don't know what to
Speaker 8: do with the time they have on their normal network.
Speaker 8: Why would I pay extra to watch them struggle to
Speaker 8: fill that?
Speaker 2: They say they're going to augment the offering with lifestyle
Speaker 2: content that might include projects in the vein of what
Speaker 2: Anthony Bourdain did, or a popular CNN personnel like doctor
Speaker 2: Sanjay Gupta did focusing on health.
Speaker 8: That doesn't sound like two ninety nine a month. Oh
Speaker 8: and the name of that show, by the way, was
Speaker 8: Have I Got News for You? The British version is
Speaker 8: really good. What was it called, Have I Got News
Speaker 8: for You? The British version? Yeah, it was the same title. Yeah, oh, okay,
Speaker 8: is it worth two ninety nine a month? The British
Speaker 8: version you can see for free on YouTube and there
Speaker 8: we go. I've been watching it for years that way,
Speaker 8: that's my point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know why, by the cow, when you can
Speaker 2: get the breast milk for my can'f I Am six
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Speaker 2: And we found out today that John A. Must the
Speaker 2: TV writer turned Emmy nominated actor. He starred as James
Speaker 2: Evans on Good Times. You know, that iconic television theme.
Speaker 2: He was also the older version of Kuta Kinte in
Speaker 2: Roots Died That The news was released today that he died,
Speaker 2: but he died back on August twenty first, as it
Speaker 2: was reported of natural causes. And growing up, John Amos
Speaker 2: and my father were almost about the exact same age,
Speaker 2: and he was and my father were very similar the
Speaker 2: on screen persona of James Evans. The father and my
Speaker 2: father were about exactly the same. They were very, very
Speaker 2: very strict. They were very very very focused on making
Speaker 2: sure that their kids went to school. And he was
Speaker 2: a physical disciplinarian, and he put the fear of God
Speaker 2: in you. It was almost like an exact match. And
Speaker 2: to meet him later in life, John Amos said, is
Speaker 2: he was the nicest guy. He was the warmest person
Speaker 2: that you'd ever want to meet, very much unlike the
Speaker 2: type of character he played on Good Times. But for
Speaker 2: many people before there was Bill Cosby, especially in African
Speaker 2: American families, John Amos was America's dad. He was that
Speaker 2: archetype of a father who would do anything in everything
Speaker 2: to care for his family. And although I had all
Speaker 2: sorts of problems with the imagery and some of the
Speaker 2: messages and the character development of the Good Times characters,
Speaker 2: as far as the stereotypes, there were some things that
Speaker 2: I think you could draw upon as John Amos's James
Speaker 2: Evans was one of the stronger characters ever written in television,
Speaker 2: even though it was it was kind of a caricature
Speaker 2: on some level. But John Amos was an actor who
Speaker 2: back then was breaking down barriers. Some people were introduced
Speaker 2: to him through the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Maybe you
Speaker 2: were introduced him obviously through Good Times, which was a
Speaker 2: spin off of Maud. But he was a very versatile actor,
Speaker 2: and when I was working in my last job in radio,
Speaker 2: I had a chance to book him a few times
Speaker 2: and he would come in and talk to me. He
Speaker 2: was just he was wonderful to to be around. And
Speaker 2: depending on how old you are, you may not remember
Speaker 2: what a different time in America it was. In the
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, shows like All in the Family, which led
Speaker 2: to the spinoff of the Jeffersons, and All in the Family,
Speaker 2: which led to Maud, which led to Good Times. All
Speaker 2: these Norman Lear shows were related on some level. But
Speaker 2: Good Times let me just play this clip for you,
Speaker 2: and this is from I think the third season of
Speaker 2: Good Times. Think about if this clip, this show, this content,
Speaker 2: this dialogue were used today.
Speaker 7: I went with Belona to one of those meetings where
Speaker 7: women talk about their problems, you know, all that.
Speaker 2: Silly talk about trying to better themselves.
Speaker 3: One of them women's groups PROD.
Speaker 9: I'm surprised that you're wasting your time at a crazy.
Speaker 3: Ladies meeting like that.
Speaker 9: Look at you sitting here bumping your gumbs when you
Speaker 9: ought to be in there making dinner.
Speaker 3: James, you asked me to sit down.
Speaker 9: I think you said he.
Speaker 3: Now, Well, there's one thing. I ain't got no patience
Speaker 3: with us women trying to push in and take over
Speaker 3: a man's job. James, that is not what women. I
Speaker 3: have to tell me, flord I see it every day.
Speaker 3: They're taking the food.
Speaker 2: Right out of my mouth. I think you said enough, Hey,
Speaker 2: woman's wrong with you?
Speaker 3: You don't tell me when to talk. See, you don't
Speaker 3: have been the one damn meeting right away?
Speaker 2: You flying in my face, James, That's not what it's
Speaker 2: all about.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you've.
Speaker 9: Been driving everybody crazy running around here.
Speaker 3: Now you're going in women's meetings. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 3: something Uncle Ed used to say it. Maybe he was right.
Speaker 9: There's only two places a woman belonged to.
Speaker 2: James. Don't say it, kitten in the bedroom, fire the kitchen,
Speaker 2: in the bedroom.
Speaker 3: You're gonna say something I said, Ain't you gonna say something?
Speaker 9: Huh?
Speaker 3: It was a different time in America.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you that would not have gone over
Speaker 2: well today, and you would not have received even the
Speaker 2: fact of a of a studio audience. You would have
Speaker 2: not had that same type of reaction, even though it
Speaker 2: was a comedy. It was just a different time in America.
Speaker 2: And maybe you didn't know John Amos as far as
Speaker 2: good time, so maybe you're introduced to him more recently.
Speaker 2: And this goes back to our conversation last night about
Speaker 2: John Ashton and why you have sequels, because thanks again
Speaker 2: to Eddie Murphy, you had the sequel to come into
Speaker 2: America where we had one last look at not only
Speaker 2: James Earl Jones, but John Amos. And if you know
Speaker 2: anything about coming to America, you know this look seeing
Speaker 2: a McDonald's.
Speaker 9: People got just a little misunderstanding see they're McDonald's, I'm McDonald's.
Speaker 9: They got the Golden Archers minus the Golden Arts. I
Speaker 9: say they got the big Mac. I got the big make.
Speaker 9: We both got two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles,
Speaker 9: and onions. But they use a sesame seed vine.
Speaker 3: My buns have no seats. We don't get a sequel
Speaker 3: to come into America.
Speaker 2: I think if we don't get that sequel, we're probably
Speaker 2: having a different conversation tonight saying, hey, all that time
Speaker 2: they're talking about doing a sequel, they missed the opportunity.
Speaker 2: We've lost James Earl Jones, we've lost John Amos. Match Sinclair,
Speaker 2: who played a Keem's mother is no longer here. You know,
Speaker 2: all those opportunities would have been gone and we would
Speaker 2: have never seen an update of those characters. Now wasn't great.
Speaker 2: It wasn't great. It was more nostalgia than anything. But
Speaker 2: for me, it was enough. It didn't need to be
Speaker 2: a theatrical release, but I got to see Khleil McDowell,
Speaker 2: John Amos's character one last time. Like we said last night,
Speaker 2: it was one last ride. Now we didn't get that
Speaker 2: with good times. They had the live versions, and also
Speaker 2: John Amos did play a part in one of the
Speaker 2: live versions.
Speaker 3: But sometimes you can't go back.
Speaker 2: Obviously, Estra role is gone, Janet Dubois is gone, Bookman's gone,
Speaker 2: Johnny Brown who played Bookman, So most of that cast
Speaker 2: is gone, with the exception of Thelma, Michael and JJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Wow, so many different roles that I appreciated. John amoson
Speaker 7: I thought he was great, and beast Master I thought
Speaker 7: he was great in die Hard two. I did not
Speaker 7: know he had still had the action chops in him
Speaker 7: because he was a football player and he was showing it.
Speaker 3: In Diehard too.
Speaker 7: Of course, mister McDowell is in all time great and
Speaker 7: so much of his career has influenced an impact in
Speaker 7: my life as far as entertaining and growing up watching
Speaker 7: Good Times. It was always that that that right there
Speaker 7: is what a father should be, as far as keeping
Speaker 7: his children in check in a community and where that
Speaker 7: is full of all types of struggle and strife, gangs
Speaker 7: and all that.
Speaker 3: I said to myself that right there is how you
Speaker 3: do it. That's my take.
Speaker 2: My favorite episode was when he took on mad Dog
Speaker 2: who shot JJ. He showed no fears like, look, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna protect my family at all costs. And despite the stereotypes,
Speaker 2: there were moments where you could see there were lessons
Speaker 2: to be gained. And if that's the enduring legacy of
Speaker 2: John Amos as an actor, then I'm satisfied. He gave
Speaker 2: us so much. And there was controversy surrounding the end
Speaker 2: of his life. There was a question of whether there
Speaker 2: was elder abuse. There were allegations made by his daughter
Speaker 2: against his son, Casey Amos, and if you've ever seen
Speaker 2: a picture of Casey Amios, he looks exactly like John
Speaker 2: Amos exactly, so there's no denying the relationship there.
Speaker 3: That will come out.
Speaker 2: There's a question of why it took more than a
Speaker 2: month for this information to be released to the public,
Speaker 2: but we'll find out soon enough. But we needed to
Speaker 2: make sure that we gave John Amos his due, as
Speaker 2: we did with John Ashton and also James Earl Jones
Speaker 2: and Chris Christofferson. It's been one hell of a month,
Speaker 2: let me tell you that, one hell of a month.
Speaker 7: This is feeling like twenty sixteen all over again.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on
Speaker 1: Demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: And before we get out of here, just want to
Speaker 2: let you know about two other television offerings which are
Speaker 2: coming down the pike, and I wouldn't say the near future,
Speaker 2: but they're in development. We're big Reacher fans here, the
Speaker 2: prime video series Reacher.
Speaker 3: Mark.
Speaker 2: What if I said to you that there is a
Speaker 2: spin off already in the works on the side character Neely,
Speaker 2: the private investigator, who was really developed in season two
Speaker 2: of Reacher.
Speaker 8: Oh that's the that's the woman who was in the
Speaker 8: Inhuman the show out. Yes, yeah, I'd watch that.
Speaker 2: I'd watch it too, but with a caveat, I still
Speaker 2: would want a cameo from one of the two of
Speaker 2: the team, at least because you got to have Reacher
Speaker 2: himself show up well in the perfect world. But like
Speaker 2: in the way that Reacher brings in his friends along
Speaker 2: the way, well, Neely would bring in her friends along
Speaker 2: the way. They would help each other out. It wouldn't
Speaker 2: be always everyone coming to help out Reacher. You know,
Speaker 2: they would have to help out yourself. Fare Yeah, I
Speaker 2: doubt they would do that. I know he was the
Speaker 2: leader of the team, but still, you know, you would
Speaker 2: think that they'll be able to call on each other.
Speaker 3: But it's a series that I'd want to see. Absolutely.
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to that one because that, to me,
Speaker 7: is a character that deserves their own series. And I
Speaker 7: think that she the actress, established herself as having a
Speaker 7: solid enough leading woman quality for a show. She's got
Speaker 7: the action chops, her action is realistic. I mean, she
Speaker 7: took some serious ass whippings, but the fight choreographer her
Speaker 7: was good. So it's not gonna be a bunch of
Speaker 7: her flipping you know, cher sized dudes through windows. We're
Speaker 7: not gonna say that she's she's brilliant, but how she
Speaker 7: she operates.
Speaker 3: But they also.
Speaker 2: Developed her character enough. You got enough of her backstory.
Speaker 2: You knew about her, her her it was her father
Speaker 2: that she was caring for.
Speaker 3: You knew more about her that you want to know more, as.
Speaker 2: Opposed to, oh, let's just give him a spin off
Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, then you have to start from
Speaker 2: square one where you don't know anything about them, and
Speaker 2: then you have to do everything that's expository where you
Speaker 2: don't have to do that. You've already told enough about
Speaker 2: the character where you have a sense of their world
Speaker 2: and where they came from. And how she ended up
Speaker 2: in Reacher's unit.
Speaker 3: That was wrong.
Speaker 8: The actress I was thinking of was Serendus Swan. No, No,
Speaker 8: she's gorgeous. The actress who played Neely is Maria Sten.
Speaker 8: She's frend Swan has enough going on Maria Sten's Danish.
Speaker 3: Yes, frenda Swan, she's m oh No.
Speaker 2: I follow her on Instagram? Yes that the right verb follow, Yes,
Speaker 2: follow nothing more. It's a social media term. It's not
Speaker 2: a euphemism. Follow her closely?
Speaker 3: Do you not? That closely?
Speaker 8: Frequently?
Speaker 2: Intensely had to make you weird?
Speaker 7: You find yourself exhausted at the end of a good
Speaker 7: following shoot.
Speaker 3: That's mother.
Speaker 2: One series in development I'm not looking forward to, And
Speaker 2: this is one where it's like why And I might
Speaker 2: be wrong.
Speaker 3: You may disagree with me.
Speaker 2: There are plans underway to get a robo cops series going.
Speaker 2: I don't have any desire to see a procedural robo
Speaker 2: cops show, robo cop law and Order. Like basically, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, Adam twelve robo Cop.
Speaker 3: I just I don't see it.
Speaker 2: I don't think it lends itself to episode after episode
Speaker 2: after episode, especially if it's gonna be one of those
Speaker 2: shows where it's continuously about his family trying to figure
Speaker 2: out whether that's their dead husband, dead father who died
Speaker 2: on the job and has his memories of his family
Speaker 2: and now in the end of that he got it
Speaker 2: all back the family. It picks up supposedly after a
Speaker 2: RoboCop where you know, he's everyone knows who everyone is,
Speaker 2: and he's just going day to day living life as
Speaker 2: a robot policeman who can no longer love his wife
Speaker 2: or hang out with his kid anymore. So what happens
Speaker 2: when the wife moves on and starts dating someone else?
Speaker 3: Police brutality.
Speaker 8: They already had a robocops series back in the nineties.
Speaker 3: I didn't see it. Oh that was hot, tras, I
Speaker 3: didn't see it. I never watched it.
Speaker 8: But the problem with these things is that Paul vero
Speaker 8: Verhoven's RoboCop was satirical, just like his Starship Troopers was satirical,
Speaker 8: and a lot of people didn't get that it was set.
Speaker 8: It's kind of like people who watch Watchmen and they
Speaker 8: want to emulate Rose Shock. They don't realize he's really
Speaker 8: not a good guy.
Speaker 3: Not at all, not at all. Neither is the comedian.
Speaker 7: What's name is involved in this series. So that's why
Speaker 7: it has promise. Yeah, okay, well that's promising. That's that's promising.
Speaker 7: They say, is going to be exactly what it was
Speaker 7: supposed to have been when they try to do with
Speaker 7: the series in the first place. You know, he stepped
Speaker 7: away after the second movie. Uh, and then they did
Speaker 7: that ungodly third movie and they did the even worst
Speaker 7: series because he was away. He's like, I got the
Speaker 7: other stuff to do, but he's back on this. They've
Speaker 7: got to really they of course they always say that,
Speaker 7: but they've got a really good idea as far as
Speaker 7: to how to turn this into a series in the
Speaker 7: same vein as the first two movies.
Speaker 3: But we'll see, we'll see. No, we won't.
Speaker 2: No, you'll see, and you'll tell me about it, and
Speaker 2: then if there's enough momentum, then possibly I would watch it.
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna watch it on my own.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't watch another RoboCop movie, much less a serious
Speaker 2: I wouldn't buy that.
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say, hey, wait, that's the other running Man.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's doesn't that original robo cop.
Speaker 3: Are you sure positive? Yes, it was a recurrent. It
Speaker 3: was a commercial which was played in Like the Liquor Store.
Speaker 2: When RoboCop came in and shout out the place trying
Speaker 2: to get this guy.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, he's like a sales character.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm getting my dystopian satires all mixed up for
Speaker 8: Hovian is eighty six now, and he's Dutch. And it's
Speaker 8: always interesting to me to see how foreigners satirize Americans
Speaker 8: with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: They don't know that they're making fun of us. We
Speaker 2: don't know that they're making fun of us. No, we
Speaker 2: think it's righteous. We think it's badass. Yeah, it's RoboCop.
Speaker 2: He guys right.
Speaker 3: We knew that.
Speaker 2: We didn't need you to verify that Mark is frequently wrong.
Speaker 2: We don't need your help to verify the's wrong. He's
Speaker 2: always wrong. Man, Suddenly I'm against fact checking live everywhere
Speaker 2: in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1: If you already know what you want us to say,
Speaker 1: you're probably in the wrong place.
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