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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have heard Steve Gregory's report about the pending

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<v Speaker 2>litigation against Sean P. Diddy Combs. He left out one

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<v Speaker 2>important fact. He left out the part where I have

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<v Speaker 2>been trying to tell you. Tawala's been trying to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that this was going to happen, that more people

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<v Speaker 2>were going to be coming forward, And now more than

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred victims or ledged victims have come forward, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just validating what we said that there were other

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<v Speaker 2>people that are out there who are going to now

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<v Speaker 2>tell their stories and then of course the judicial system

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<v Speaker 2>will decide whether those.

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<v Speaker 3>Claims have merit.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were trying to tell you this was what

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<v Speaker 2>was going to happen next and whether Sean P. Diddy Combs,

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<v Speaker 2>whether he was innocent of everything. He would have to

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<v Speaker 2>be innocent of everything, every single claim, every portion of

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<v Speaker 2>every claim for him to actually be innocent.

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<v Speaker 4>Disturbing new allegations of sexual misconduct against Shandy Combs, some

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<v Speaker 4>of them involving children as young as nine years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine years old.

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<v Speaker 2>We tried to tell you, We tried to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that this was not about just freak off. This was

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<v Speaker 2>not about six parties and after a concert or something

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<v Speaker 2>at Diddy's mansion.

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<v Speaker 3>It was something much more sinister, all the way criminal.

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<v Speaker 4>Disturbing new allegations of sexual misconduct against Shan Didy Combs,

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<v Speaker 4>some of them involving children as young as nine years old.

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<v Speaker 4>A Houston attorney representing one hundred and twenty accusers says

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<v Speaker 4>he expects lawsuits will be foullowed in the next month.

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<v Speaker 4>Tony Buzby described the victims as sixty males and sixty females,

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<v Speaker 4>including twenty five who were miners at the time of

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<v Speaker 4>the alleged mist conduct. The attorney alleges the music mogul

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<v Speaker 4>sexually abused a nine year old boy at an audition

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<v Speaker 4>at Comb's Bad Boy Records in New York City. Busby

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<v Speaker 4>says a fifteen year old was drugged at a party

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<v Speaker 4>and in front of Combs was raped by other individuals.

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<v Speaker 4>An attorney for Combs calls the allegations meritless and says

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<v Speaker 4>the rapper denies any claims that he sexually abused anyone,

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<v Speaker 4>including my nurse.

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<v Speaker 2>Tried to tell you Tony Busby as reference in that story,

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<v Speaker 2>had this to say, the biggest secret.

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<v Speaker 5>In the entertainment industry that really wasn't a secret at all,

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<v Speaker 5>has finally been.

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<v Speaker 3>Revealed to the world.

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<v Speaker 5>The wall of silence has now been broken and victims

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<v Speaker 5>are coming forward. Our team has had at this point

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<v Speaker 5>more than three thousand and two hundred and eighty five

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<v Speaker 5>individuals contact us with people claiming people claiming.

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<v Speaker 6>To have been victimized by Sean Combs.

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<v Speaker 5>After vetting, we now represent one hundred and twenty individuals

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<v Speaker 5>who intend to bring civil claims in civil court against

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<v Speaker 5>Sean Diddy Combs. You should know in this group it

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<v Speaker 5>is evenly divided between males and females. There's sixty males

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<v Speaker 5>and sixty females who have joined us US to pursue

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<v Speaker 5>these claims. As plainish, the victims are from more than

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five states.

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<v Speaker 6>Majority are from California, New York, Georgia, and Florida. When

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<v Speaker 6>you talk about the ages and the victims from its

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<v Speaker 6>conduct occurred, it's shocking. Her youngest victim at the time

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<v Speaker 6>of the occurrence was nine years old. We have an

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<v Speaker 6>individual who was fourteen years old, We have one who

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<v Speaker 6>was fifteen. Twenty five of one hundred and twenty individuals

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<v Speaker 6>who are plaintiffs in these cases were reminders at the

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<v Speaker 6>time of the acts complained of them.

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<v Speaker 2>We tried to tell you that there would be more

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<v Speaker 2>and this was not unknown. People keep saying this was

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<v Speaker 2>not unknown, And then the response has always been, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why didn't they come forward sooner? Why didn't they say

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<v Speaker 2>something then? Because there was a threat of violence, There

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<v Speaker 2>was a real possibility that not only would they be harmed,

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<v Speaker 2>but they would be killed and their family members would

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<v Speaker 2>be harmed. It wasn't about worrying about, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>would happen to their career, someone trying to ruin their career,

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<v Speaker 2>which was often what was said when we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>me too. Through the lens of television and movies, Harvey Weinstein,

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<v Speaker 2>he could ruin somebody's career. No one was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Harvey Weinstein dangling someone off a balcony or beating them

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<v Speaker 2>up in their office and hitting them over the head

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<v Speaker 2>with a telephone. No one was talking about the possibility

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<v Speaker 2>of Harvey Weinstein, for example, blowing up somebody's car because

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<v Speaker 2>they dated Cassie for a moment. It's all together different

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<v Speaker 2>when you have someone who's so very powerful. And again

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<v Speaker 2>this was pre social media, for the most part, there

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<v Speaker 2>was no way to get out your story in any

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<v Speaker 2>meaningful way. No one was just going to take your

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<v Speaker 2>word for it and then run with that story. The

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<v Speaker 2>whole world has changed in a media sense. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>why the music Me Too took longer, and have to

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<v Speaker 2>say this again is because the stakes were higher, The

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<v Speaker 2>danger was more pernicious, the danger was more serious. Lives

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<v Speaker 2>were impacted, lives could have been ended, and I'm quite

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<v Speaker 2>sure all of these individuals were threatened at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>And until we deal with that, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>understand the difference or the reasons why one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty people are coming forward now as opposed to nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine because it was under the threat of actual

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<v Speaker 2>physical violence.

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<v Speaker 7>I know, it's interesting that there are individuals who and

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if they've reached out to you, Mooh,

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<v Speaker 7>but individuals who have reached out me to me through

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<v Speaker 7>DMS and said, like, you know, while you were in

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<v Speaker 7>the industry, how come you didn't speak out? And I

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<v Speaker 7>would just say for myself, I, as a consenting adult,

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<v Speaker 7>chose not to go to any after hour. I went

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<v Speaker 7>to one mansion party just thinking at that time like,

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<v Speaker 7>oh man, y'all's invited to this mansion party, bunch of rappers.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go check it out.

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<v Speaker 7>After I saw what was happening, and at the time,

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<v Speaker 7>what was offered to me as the party was winding down,

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<v Speaker 7>like hey man, you want to take your pick here,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, nah, I'm going home. After that, I

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<v Speaker 7>said to myself, you know what, I have sense enough

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<v Speaker 7>for myself to say, I don't want to be a

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<v Speaker 7>part of this all of the music industry, you know, conventions.

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<v Speaker 7>I had sense enough to say, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>going to leave this bar now because I know where

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<v Speaker 7>this is going. But the lore and the attraction of

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<v Speaker 7>the music industry, of the and there's lots of times

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<v Speaker 7>this is the victims are individuals who want to be

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<v Speaker 7>a part of and are looking at these big, heavyweight

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<v Speaker 7>music moguls and entertainers, singers, rappers, producers and the like

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<v Speaker 7>as being a way for them to become famous, and

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<v Speaker 7>they're willing to do whatever it takes. And unfortunately that's

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<v Speaker 7>the lore and the draw of being in entertainment, and

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<v Speaker 7>what happens is they're victimized to a point that they

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<v Speaker 7>could not even understand what was happening at the time,

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<v Speaker 7>and this is what happens when they Just imagine you're

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<v Speaker 7>nine years old and you are a this is all alleged,

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<v Speaker 7>but at nine years old, just imagine going and meeting

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<v Speaker 7>a music icon only to be sexually assaulted.

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you process being sexually assaulted at nine

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<v Speaker 2>years old? How do you communicate that to someone an adult,

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<v Speaker 2>that X, Y or Z happened to you. And a

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<v Speaker 2>common story that I would here is you have someone,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, who's nineteen twenty years old of age, an adult,

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<v Speaker 2>and they meet someone the power of Puff Daddy at

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<v Speaker 2>the time or p Diddy, someone who could make or

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<v Speaker 2>break your careers, like you want to be in that

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<v Speaker 2>person's presence. You want to do it. It's like Puffy's

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<v Speaker 2>taken interest in me. He wants me to come hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with him at his party at his house. And

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, Oh, it's not what you

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<v Speaker 2>thought was going to be. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do meet. All of a sudden, you realize

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<v Speaker 2>that you've been drugged and things have.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened to you. But who do you tell? Who's going

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<v Speaker 3>to believe you? Now? To answer your questions talk, and

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<v Speaker 3>I keep trying to remind people.

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<v Speaker 2>I did what I could where I was, what I

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<v Speaker 2>saw and could validate and verify. At the Grammys, the

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<v Speaker 2>National Academy Recording, Arts and Sciences, I spoke out, I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to the LA Times. When it came to the

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<v Speaker 2>books of the Grammys, I spoke to the FBI. I

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<v Speaker 2>did what I could with what I had right where

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<v Speaker 2>I was a lot of things that I saw in

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<v Speaker 2>the music business. And I said this last night. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the music companies were just this side

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<v Speaker 2>of the trade, and these are real killers, real killers.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not enough for me to say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>think something happened to so and so.

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<v Speaker 3>You're asking what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you saying that you would have done differently, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you. I've had a gun put

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<v Speaker 2>in my face, I've had my life threatened. And unless

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<v Speaker 2>you are ready to actually confront that or deal with

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of that. When we were talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>last night, it was a common experience where you go

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<v Speaker 2>to a recording studio or a record label and their

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<v Speaker 2>guns everywhere. We had armed security twenty four to seven

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<v Speaker 2>y because someone may come in and shoot up the

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<v Speaker 2>place and are you saying are you actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>really ask me? Or twalla, well, what did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you do more? F oh fo capital h.

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<v Speaker 7>I remember all of the condemnation I received when my

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<v Speaker 7>station was leading the charge and trying to bring light

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<v Speaker 7>to the charges that were levied against R. Kelly at

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<v Speaker 7>the time, and at this time these were just allegations.

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<v Speaker 7>There were no actual trench just allegations of what had happened,

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<v Speaker 7>and us having individuals on the air, our Afternoon Drive personality,

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<v Speaker 7>myself making a decision to back off of the music.

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<v Speaker 7>These were things that at the time they said, you

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<v Speaker 7>are literally throwing your career away for taking this stance

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<v Speaker 7>on not supporting R Kelly at the height of his career,

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<v Speaker 7>because this is what he was. I can fly R Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I had a column with euur web dot

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<v Speaker 2>com and I was one of the lone voices, the

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<v Speaker 2>lone voices who wrote out and wrote and spoke out

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<v Speaker 2>against R. Kelly in his first child pornography case. And

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<v Speaker 2>I caught a lot of hells like how dare you

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<v Speaker 2>she was of age, she knew what she was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Victim blaming when it was not This was ten years

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<v Speaker 2>pre Me Too movement. Okay, whatever that first case was,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was one of the lone voices come him.

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<v Speaker 2>Articles are still out there, and I caught hell for it,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I really bristled when people say, why didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you do more?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was the one doing more.

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<v Speaker 2>You're one of the people who either weren't paying attention

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<v Speaker 2>or didn't believe us. And then when we were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to let you know this was going on, I have

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<v Speaker 2>the receipts to prove it. So anyone wants to ask

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<v Speaker 2>me what I didn't do more, you obviously weren't paying

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<v Speaker 2>attention to let me just say one more time. Foh

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<v Speaker 2>are y'all? Foh go ahead? Mark asked me what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>I have some ideas. I have the concepts of an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Later with mo Kelly Camfie AO six forty. We're

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>And as we talk about these streaming platforms, the different

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<v Speaker 3>It's real simple.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to pay five ninety nine nine ninety

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<v Speaker 2>an equal amount of value in programming.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we agree on that? Good? Okay, let's move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I see that CNN dot com is offering

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<v Speaker 2>It ranges from two ninety nine a month to twenty

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<v Speaker 3>No, it isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be able to afford two ninety nine a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I can, But do I want to spend three

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<v Speaker 2>which doesn't offer any value? And when we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>streaming platforms, it has to offer something that you want

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<v Speaker 2>and that you can't have normally and justifies you paying

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<v Speaker 2>lowest rated cable news network, So right there, the demand

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<v Speaker 2>for the free programming is the lowest of the major

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<v Speaker 2>cable networks. And now you want to say that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we can go lower. We're going to ask you for

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<v Speaker 2>money for content that you've already let us know over

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<v Speaker 2>many years now that it's not something that you want

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<v Speaker 2>even for free. We're going to ask you for money

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<v Speaker 2>for something that you don't even want to see consistently

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<v Speaker 2>for free.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what CNN had to say. Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>The hope is that these are our first, very early

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<v Speaker 2>steps to building a direct to consumer business, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>for CNN Worldwide. We want this to be a very

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<v Speaker 2>robust business line that complements the affiliate revenue we have

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<v Speaker 2>and our advertising revenue to be fair. And I say

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<v Speaker 2>this as someone who's done at least one hundred CNN

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<v Speaker 2>hits no exaggeration, so I kind of know how it

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<v Speaker 2>goes on behind the scenes. To some level, CNN is

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<v Speaker 2>not just what you see here. That's the domestic channel.

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<v Speaker 2>When you turn on your cable news and you see CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>that's called CNN Domestic, but if you've ever been at

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<v Speaker 2>an airport around the country or around the world, you're

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<v Speaker 2>most likely watching CNN International. If you watch the domestic

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<v Speaker 2>channel after midnight West Coast time, it usually switches over

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<v Speaker 2>to the CNN International feed. It's less opinion and editorial

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<v Speaker 2>and more straight news. And CNN does have bureaus around

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<v Speaker 2>NBC News which has bureaus, but it's not cable focused.

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<v Speaker 2>CNN has content creating sources all around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is.

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<v Speaker 2>Something theoretically which could be offered of value. But right

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<v Speaker 2>now in America they are focusing obviously on CNN Domestic,

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<v Speaker 2>and CNN Domestic has already tried.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was Mark what was it called CNN

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<v Speaker 3>Plus or something like that.

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<v Speaker 8>It was CNN Plus and it lasted exactly one month

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<v Speaker 8>in twenty twenty two, from March twenty ninth to April

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<v Speaker 3>They had the news of bring it Over Chris Wallace.

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<v Speaker 2>There was new content which they were offering as a

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<v Speaker 2>carrot for people to sign up. But this what I'm seeing,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not anything that they can even point to to say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be getting this and this and that and

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<v Speaker 2>this exclusive that, and we know you want that, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna make you paying for that. They can't even

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<v Speaker 2>make the honest argument that this two ninety nine a

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe that's where you get the fact checking. You have

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<v Speaker 8>to pature for that. Oh we all want that. Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, according to CNN, CNN dot Com already has a

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<v Speaker 2>robust user base that executives hope can be converted over time.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote, we have this massive audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Over one hundred and fifty million every month, and millions

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<v Speaker 2>and millions of people come to us through CNN dot

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<v Speaker 2>com many times a week, if not many times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea here is to take a product that already

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<v Speaker 2>exists and add some more bottom to it. Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't add more bottom if you're already the bottom. What

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<v Speaker 2>does that mean add more bottom to it? It doesn't,

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<v Speaker 2>it does, It defies, It defies logic. Now, I understand

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<v Speaker 2>your job as a media company, especially if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>digital marketing, is to create some sort of revenue stream.

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<v Speaker 2>Any type of money that they can get for this,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, is basically free money because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem like they're really putting out any money for new content.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like they're hiring new hosts. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>they're creating new shows like they did try with CNN Plus.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like they're just giving you added content, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes content, maybe some video podcasts or some

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<v Speaker 2>of the hosts, you know what I mean, Just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of adding nibbling around the edges, but not doing anything

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<v Speaker 2>extravagant or anything really special to justify you coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of the pocket for two ninety nine to twenty ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 2>two ninety nine a month or twenty nine ninety nine

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<v Speaker 3>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna make the argument, it's like, it's only two

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine. It's not that much. We all can afford

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<v Speaker 2>two ninety nine a month. It's it's less than a

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<v Speaker 2>Starbucks a cup of coffee, which it is. But I

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<v Speaker 2>where I spend my money. There's certain streaming platforms I

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<v Speaker 3>Either.

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<v Speaker 2>I can get the content elsewhere, like on TV, like

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<v Speaker 2>on Plex TV or some other platform which streams for free,

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<v Speaker 2>or I can do without it all together, and unless

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<v Speaker 2>CNN can demonstrate that there's a demand, I'll put it

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<v Speaker 2>in other terms, Fox News, even though it's the number

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<v Speaker 2>one rated cable news network by a lot for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, Fox Nation has never taken off, and that

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<v Speaker 2>had different hosts, It had added programming, but people were

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<v Speaker 2>not interested in that extra monetary layout for Fox esque

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<v Speaker 2>sounding content which was inferior to the main channel. Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Nation was not special and it has not done well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's even still around anymore that platform.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to look it up. But if Fox Nation

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it, why in the hell would CNN Plus

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<v Speaker 2>the second Goal Round be anything.

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<v Speaker 8>They really bet a lot on people being lured by

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<v Speaker 8>the charisma and magnetism of Chris Wallace to CNN Plus,

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<v Speaker 8>did they?

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<v Speaker 3>He was supposed to be the basically the anchor for

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<v Speaker 3>the whole platform.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I don't have any problem with him, but I

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<v Speaker 8>sure wouldn't roll the dice on him to that degree.

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<v Speaker 2>And since that was unsuccessful, and I would not blame

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Wallace, I believe the whole rollout was flawed and

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<v Speaker 2>faulty because I thought originally he was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the broadcast network and all of a sudden he

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<v Speaker 3>But if that didn't work, why would this work.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know you have to generate revenue somehow, some way,

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<v Speaker 2>but this seems like a failed proposition out the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to announce this, at least announce it

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<v Speaker 2>with something that people might be interested in. It can't

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<v Speaker 2>even tell me anything that I'm getting, which is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be over and above better than new fangled anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Connected to it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing new except you'll be able to get all

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<v Speaker 2>of CNN's regularly scheduled content on the streaming site, plus

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<v Speaker 2>some added extras.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for the offer, but I'll pass, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think most people will pass.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to get Mark Ronner's money.

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<v Speaker 8>It seems to feel like I'm terribly cheap, especially when

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<v Speaker 8>it comes to news product. They struggle to fill their

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<v Speaker 8>schedule as it is. They're running recycled Bill Maher. They're

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<v Speaker 8>recycling a show called The News Show, the comedy news

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<v Speaker 8>Show from Britain. I forget the name of it, but

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<v Speaker 8>with American stars in it. They don't know what to

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<v Speaker 8>do with the time they have on their normal network.

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<v Speaker 8>Why would I pay extra to watch them struggle to

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<v Speaker 8>fill that?

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<v Speaker 2>They say they're going to augment the offering with lifestyle

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<v Speaker 2>content that might include projects in the vein of what

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Bourdain did, or a popular CNN personnel like doctor

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<v Speaker 8>That doesn't sound like two ninety nine a month. Oh

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<v Speaker 8>and the name of that show, by the way, was

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<v Speaker 8>Have I Got News for You? The British version is

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<v Speaker 8>really good. What was it called, Have I Got News

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<v Speaker 8>for You? The British version? Yeah, it was the same title. Yeah, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>is it worth two ninety nine a month? The British

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<v Speaker 8>version you can see for free on YouTube and there

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<v Speaker 8>we go. I've been watching it for years that way,

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<v Speaker 8>that's my point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know why, by the cow, when you can

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<v Speaker 2>get the breast milk for my can'f I Am six

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<v Speaker 2>forty we're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>Caf I moch Keller. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>And we found out today that John A. Must the

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<v Speaker 2>TV writer turned Emmy nominated actor. He starred as James

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<v Speaker 2>Evans on Good Times. You know, that iconic television theme.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also the older version of Kuta Kinte in

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<v Speaker 2>Roots Died That The news was released today that he died,

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<v Speaker 2>was reported of natural causes. And growing up, John Amos

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<v Speaker 2>and my father were almost about the exact same age,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was and my father were very similar the

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<v Speaker 2>on screen persona of James Evans. The father and my

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<v Speaker 2>father were about exactly the same. They were very, very

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<v Speaker 2>very strict. They were very very very focused on making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that their kids went to school. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>a physical disciplinarian, and he put the fear of God

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<v Speaker 2>in you. It was almost like an exact match. And

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<v Speaker 2>to meet him later in life, John Amos said, is

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<v Speaker 2>he was the nicest guy. He was the warmest person

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<v Speaker 2>that you'd ever want to meet, very much unlike the

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<v Speaker 2>type of character he played on Good Times. But for

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<v Speaker 2>many people before there was Bill Cosby, especially in African

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<v Speaker 2>American families, John Amos was America's dad. He was that

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<v Speaker 2>archetype of a father who would do anything in everything

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<v Speaker 2>to care for his family. And although I had all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of problems with the imagery and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>even though it was it was kind of a caricature

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<v Speaker 2>on some level. But John Amos was an actor who

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<v Speaker 2>back then was breaking down barriers. Some people were introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to him through the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>were introduced him obviously through Good Times, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>spin off of Maud. But he was a very versatile actor,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I was working in my last job in radio,

429
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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance to book him a few times

430
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<v Speaker 2>and he would come in and talk to me. He

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<v Speaker 2>was just he was wonderful to to be around. And

432
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<v Speaker 2>depending on how old you are, you may not remember

433
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<v Speaker 2>what a different time in America it was. In the

434
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies, shows like All in the Family, which led

435
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<v Speaker 2>to the spinoff of the Jeffersons, and All in the Family,

436
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<v Speaker 2>which led to Maud, which led to Good Times. All

437
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<v Speaker 2>these Norman Lear shows were related on some level. But

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<v Speaker 2>Good Times let me just play this clip for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is from I think the third season of

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<v Speaker 2>Good Times. Think about if this clip, this show, this content,

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<v Speaker 2>this dialogue were used today.

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<v Speaker 7>I went with Belona to one of those meetings where

443
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<v Speaker 7>women talk about their problems, you know, all that.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Silly talk about trying to better themselves.

445
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<v Speaker 3>One of them women's groups PROD.

446
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<v Speaker 9>I'm surprised that you're wasting your time at a crazy.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Ladies meeting like that.

448
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<v Speaker 9>Look at you sitting here bumping your gumbs when you

449
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<v Speaker 9>ought to be in there making dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>James, you asked me to sit down.

451
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<v Speaker 9>I think you said he.

452
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<v Speaker 3>Now, Well, there's one thing. I ain't got no patience

453
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<v Speaker 3>with us women trying to push in and take over

454
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<v Speaker 3>a man's job. James, that is not what women. I

455
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<v Speaker 3>have to tell me, flord I see it every day.

456
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<v Speaker 3>They're taking the food.

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<v Speaker 2>Right out of my mouth. I think you said enough, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>woman's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't tell me when to talk. See, you don't

460
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<v Speaker 3>have been the one damn meeting right away?

461
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<v Speaker 2>You flying in my face, James, That's not what it's

462
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<v Speaker 2>all about.

463
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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you've.

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<v Speaker 9>Been driving everybody crazy running around here.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're going in women's meetings. I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 3>something Uncle Ed used to say it. Maybe he was right.

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<v Speaker 9>There's only two places a woman belonged to.

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<v Speaker 2>James. Don't say it, kitten in the bedroom, fire the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 2>in the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna say something I said, Ain't you gonna say something?

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<v Speaker 9>Huh?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a different time in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you that would not have gone over

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<v Speaker 2>well today, and you would not have received even the

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<v Speaker 2>fact of a of a studio audience. You would have

476
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<v Speaker 2>not had that same type of reaction, even though it

477
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<v Speaker 2>was a comedy. It was just a different time in America.

478
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<v Speaker 2>And maybe you didn't know John Amos as far as

479
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<v Speaker 2>good time, so maybe you're introduced to him more recently.

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<v Speaker 2>And this goes back to our conversation last night about

481
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<v Speaker 2>John Ashton and why you have sequels, because thanks again

482
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<v Speaker 2>to Eddie Murphy, you had the sequel to come into

483
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<v Speaker 2>America where we had one last look at not only

484
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<v Speaker 2>James Earl Jones, but John Amos. And if you know

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<v Speaker 2>anything about coming to America, you know this look seeing

486
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<v Speaker 2>a McDonald's.

487
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<v Speaker 9>People got just a little misunderstanding see they're McDonald's, I'm McDonald's.

488
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<v Speaker 9>They got the Golden Archers minus the Golden Arts. I

489
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<v Speaker 9>say they got the big Mac. I got the big make.

490
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<v Speaker 9>We both got two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles,

491
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<v Speaker 9>and onions. But they use a sesame seed vine.

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<v Speaker 3>My buns have no seats. We don't get a sequel

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<v Speaker 3>to come into America.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we don't get that sequel, we're probably

495
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<v Speaker 2>having a different conversation tonight saying, hey, all that time

496
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<v Speaker 2>they're talking about doing a sequel, they missed the opportunity.

497
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<v Speaker 2>We've lost James Earl Jones, we've lost John Amos. Match Sinclair,

498
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>who played a Keem's mother is no longer here. You know,

499
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>all those opportunities would have been gone and we would

500
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<v Speaker 2>have never seen an update of those characters. Now wasn't great.

501
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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't great. It was more nostalgia than anything. But

502
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<v Speaker 2>for me, it was enough. It didn't need to be

503
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 2>a theatrical release, but I got to see Khleil McDowell,

504
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<v Speaker 2>John Amos's character one last time. Like we said last night,

505
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<v Speaker 2>it was one last ride. Now we didn't get that

506
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<v Speaker 2>with good times. They had the live versions, and also

507
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<v Speaker 2>John Amos did play a part in one of the

508
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<v Speaker 2>live versions.

509
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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes you can't go back.

510
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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, Estra role is gone, Janet Dubois is gone, Bookman's gone,

511
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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Brown who played Bookman, So most of that cast

512
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<v Speaker 2>is gone, with the exception of Thelma, Michael and JJ.

513
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, so many different roles that I appreciated. John amoson

515
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<v Speaker 7>I thought he was great, and beast Master I thought

516
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 7>he was great in die Hard two. I did not

517
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<v Speaker 7>know he had still had the action chops in him

518
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 7>because he was a football player and he was showing it.

519
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<v Speaker 3>In Diehard too.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, mister McDowell is in all time great and

521
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 7>so much of his career has influenced an impact in

522
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<v Speaker 7>my life as far as entertaining and growing up watching

523
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<v Speaker 7>Good Times. It was always that that that right there

524
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<v Speaker 7>is what a father should be, as far as keeping

525
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<v Speaker 7>his children in check in a community and where that

526
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<v Speaker 7>is full of all types of struggle and strife, gangs

527
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<v Speaker 7>and all that.

528
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I said to myself that right there is how you

529
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<v Speaker 3>do it. That's my take.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite episode was when he took on mad Dog

531
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<v Speaker 2>who shot JJ. He showed no fears like, look, I'm

532
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna protect my family at all costs. And despite the stereotypes,

533
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>there were moments where you could see there were lessons

534
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>to be gained. And if that's the enduring legacy of

535
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<v Speaker 2>John Amos as an actor, then I'm satisfied. He gave

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<v Speaker 2>us so much. And there was controversy surrounding the end

537
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<v Speaker 2>of his life. There was a question of whether there

538
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<v Speaker 2>was elder abuse. There were allegations made by his daughter

539
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<v Speaker 2>against his son, Casey Amos, and if you've ever seen

540
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>a picture of Casey Amios, he looks exactly like John

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<v Speaker 2>Amos exactly, so there's no denying the relationship there.

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<v Speaker 3>That will come out.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a question of why it took more than a

544
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<v Speaker 2>month for this information to be released to the public,

545
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<v Speaker 2>but we'll find out soon enough. But we needed to

546
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<v Speaker 2>make sure that we gave John Amos his due, as

547
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<v Speaker 2>we did with John Ashton and also James Earl Jones

548
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<v Speaker 2>and Chris Christofferson. It's been one hell of a month,

549
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you that, one hell of a month.

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<v Speaker 7>This is feeling like twenty sixteen all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on

552
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<v Speaker 1>Demand from KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we get out of here, just want to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know about two other television offerings which are

555
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<v Speaker 2>coming down the pike, and I wouldn't say the near future,

556
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<v Speaker 2>but they're in development. We're big Reacher fans here, the

557
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>prime video series Reacher.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>What if I said to you that there is a

560
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<v Speaker 2>spin off already in the works on the side character Neely,

561
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<v Speaker 2>the private investigator, who was really developed in season two

562
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<v Speaker 2>of Reacher.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh that's the that's the woman who was in the

564
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<v Speaker 8>Inhuman the show out. Yes, yeah, I'd watch that.

565
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<v Speaker 2>I'd watch it too, but with a caveat, I still

566
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<v Speaker 2>would want a cameo from one of the two of

567
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.119
<v Speaker 2>the team, at least because you got to have Reacher

568
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<v Speaker 2>himself show up well in the perfect world. But like

569
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<v Speaker 2>in the way that Reacher brings in his friends along

570
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the way, well, Neely would bring in her friends along

571
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the way. They would help each other out. It wouldn't

572
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>be always everyone coming to help out Reacher. You know,

573
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 2>they would have to help out yourself. Fare Yeah, I

574
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<v Speaker 2>doubt they would do that. I know he was the

575
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 2>leader of the team, but still, you know, you would

576
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 2>think that they'll be able to call on each other.

577
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<v Speaker 3>But it's a series that I'd want to see. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm looking forward to that one because that, to me,

579
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<v Speaker 7>is a character that deserves their own series. And I

580
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<v Speaker 7>think that she the actress, established herself as having a

581
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<v Speaker 7>solid enough leading woman quality for a show. She's got

582
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<v Speaker 7>the action chops, her action is realistic. I mean, she

583
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 7>took some serious ass whippings, but the fight choreographer her

584
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 7>was good. So it's not gonna be a bunch of

585
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 7>her flipping you know, cher sized dudes through windows. We're

586
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<v Speaker 7>not gonna say that she's she's brilliant, but how she

587
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:10.680
<v Speaker 7>she operates.

588
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 3>But they also.

589
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Developed her character enough. You got enough of her backstory.

590
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 2>You knew about her, her her it was her father

591
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>that she was caring for.

592
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 3>You knew more about her that you want to know more, as.

593
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Opposed to, oh, let's just give him a spin off

594
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<v Speaker 2>where it's like, okay, then you have to start from

595
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<v Speaker 2>square one where you don't know anything about them, and

596
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>then you have to do everything that's expository where you

597
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.599
<v Speaker 2>don't have to do that. You've already told enough about

598
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the character where you have a sense of their world

599
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 2>and where they came from. And how she ended up

600
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in Reacher's unit.

601
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 3>That was wrong.

602
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<v Speaker 8>The actress I was thinking of was Serendus Swan. No, No,

603
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 8>she's gorgeous. The actress who played Neely is Maria Sten.

604
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<v Speaker 8>She's frend Swan has enough going on Maria Sten's Danish.

605
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, frenda Swan, she's m oh No.

606
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<v Speaker 2>I follow her on Instagram? Yes that the right verb follow, Yes,

607
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 2>follow nothing more. It's a social media term. It's not

608
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 2>a euphemism. Follow her closely?

609
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<v Speaker 3>Do you not? That closely?

610
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<v Speaker 8>Frequently?

611
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Intensely had to make you weird?

612
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<v Speaker 7>You find yourself exhausted at the end of a good

613
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<v Speaker 7>following shoot.

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<v Speaker 3>That's mother.

615
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<v Speaker 2>One series in development I'm not looking forward to, And

616
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>this is one where it's like why And I might

617
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<v Speaker 2>be wrong.

618
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<v Speaker 3>You may disagree with me.

619
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<v Speaker 2>There are plans underway to get a robo cops series going.

620
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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any desire to see a procedural robo

621
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<v Speaker 2>cops show, robo cop law and Order. Like basically, it's like,

622
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, Adam twelve robo Cop.

623
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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't see it.

624
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it lends itself to episode after episode

625
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>after episode, especially if it's gonna be one of those

626
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 2>shows where it's continuously about his family trying to figure

627
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 2>out whether that's their dead husband, dead father who died

628
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>on the job and has his memories of his family

629
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<v Speaker 2>and now in the end of that he got it

630
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<v Speaker 2>all back the family. It picks up supposedly after a

631
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<v Speaker 2>RoboCop where you know, he's everyone knows who everyone is,

632
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:26.679
<v Speaker 2>and he's just going day to day living life as

633
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<v Speaker 2>a robot policeman who can no longer love his wife

634
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<v Speaker 2>or hang out with his kid anymore. So what happens

635
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 2>when the wife moves on and starts dating someone else?

636
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<v Speaker 3>Police brutality.

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<v Speaker 8>They already had a robocops series back in the nineties.

638
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see it. Oh that was hot, tras, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see it. I never watched it.

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<v Speaker 8>But the problem with these things is that Paul vero

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<v Speaker 8>Verhoven's RoboCop was satirical, just like his Starship Troopers was satirical,

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<v Speaker 8>and a lot of people didn't get that it was set.

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<v Speaker 8>It's kind of like people who watch Watchmen and they

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<v Speaker 8>want to emulate Rose Shock. They don't realize he's really

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<v Speaker 8>not a good guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all, not at all. Neither is the comedian.

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<v Speaker 7>What's name is involved in this series. So that's why

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<v Speaker 7>it has promise. Yeah, okay, well that's promising. That's that's promising.

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<v Speaker 7>They say, is going to be exactly what it was

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<v Speaker 7>supposed to have been when they try to do with

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<v Speaker 7>the series in the first place. You know, he stepped

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<v Speaker 7>away after the second movie. Uh, and then they did

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<v Speaker 7>that ungodly third movie and they did the even worst

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<v Speaker 7>series because he was away. He's like, I got the

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<v Speaker 7>other stuff to do, but he's back on this. They've

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<v Speaker 7>got to really they of course they always say that,

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<v Speaker 7>but they've got a really good idea as far as

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<v Speaker 7>to how to turn this into a series in the

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<v Speaker 7>same vein as the first two movies.

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll see, we'll see. No, we won't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you'll see, and you'll tell me about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then if there's enough momentum, then possibly I would watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not gonna watch it on my own.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't watch another RoboCop movie, much less a serious

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't buy that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I wouldn't say, hey, wait, that's the other running Man.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, that's doesn't that original robo cop.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure positive? Yes, it was a recurrent. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a commercial which was played in Like the Liquor Store.

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<v Speaker 2>When RoboCop came in and shout out the place trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, yeah, yeah, he's like a sales character.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm getting my dystopian satires all mixed up for

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<v Speaker 8>Hovian is eighty six now, and he's Dutch. And it's

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<v Speaker 8>always interesting to me to see how foreigners satirize Americans

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<v Speaker 8>with this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know that they're making fun of us. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that they're making fun of us. No, we

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<v Speaker 2>think it's righteous. We think it's badass. Yeah, it's RoboCop.

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<v Speaker 2>He guys right.

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<v Speaker 3>We knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't need you to verify that Mark is frequently wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need your help to verify the's wrong. He's

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<v Speaker 2>always wrong. Man, Suddenly I'm against fact checking live everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>If you already know what you want us to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably in the wrong place.

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<v Speaker 8>K S.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm k O S

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<v Speaker 3>T H D Twos Angeles,
